Went from a 2021 F350 to a 2020 megacab Ram. Both diesel. And the Ford is faster. But pulling, the Ram feels better. More stable and just feel more grounded. My wife even made the comment about the Ram just feeling better and safer than the Ford Not to mention much better braking power.. To clarify, I never felt unsafe in the Ford. But it's clear what tows better in regards of handling, power feel and hills. It's the Ram. Also the Ram is definitely more comfortable. I think going fast is just a boyish thinking. Men want to stop and control loads and take hills at comfortable speeds. I drove semi for 10 years and I definitly want safety over speedy pulling. Too many do that today....
@@gangsta19x My dad was a trucker for about 10 years. Then he got into contstruxtion, starting small with Stucco and then moving on to masonry, opening up his own contractor company.
I had a 2010 Ram Cummins 2500 Laramie that was parked onnthe showroom floor. Jt was the biggest piece of trash. Everything went wrong one time or another. Things malfunctioned or failed and never worked again. Sold it under 3 years later. Several years later i bought a 20q7 Ford F250 6.7 Lariat. It never failed to start except once when the battery was worn and died. Everything worked much better. Things were better wuakitym no more back aches driving all day. Still have it 6 years later and will jeep it as long as it keep working.
I love my 23 Superduty HO. Its breaking in more. I like ford's buttons and all without having to go into the screen. I've gotten used to the ford. I like how the cameras comes one when he sensor is trip. I love the cab, getting great milage etc. Plus, I'll take as much power pulling he passes in CO as I can. My f350 rides better than my 21 3500 with air suspension. I've had three rams and this is my first Superduty and I'm not looking back.
I don’t care what anyone says. I had a 2023 Chevy 2500. It was a custom. The comfort compared to ram was not there. I had the Chevy for 7 months. Traded it for a ram 23. Yes I can tell the ram is definitely slower then the v8 Chevy but it’s definitely way more comfortable. I think it even drives better and has better turning radius. Can’t deny Chevy and fords v8s but it’s hard to beat that inline 6 and engine break on the ram. Yes ram definitely needs a redesign but as far as I’m concerned they still have the best interior 6 years in a row. Hopefully in 2025 they redesign and can take their first place throne back.
After owning a 24’ Chevy 2500hd. I will definitely be waiting for a 2025 Cummins and hoping it’s something new. If it’s not I’ll be going to the 4th gen Dodge.
The tow/ haul on my F350 srw works really well. Play with my exhaust break a few times. But don't need to use it And was told it burns up additional Def.
The Ford HO is an absolute race car. I spin the tires in my regular output 24 F250. I had purchased a 24 Ram Longhorn and the power was not what I was used to in a powerstroke, so I traded it with 1000 miles on it for a powerstroke. But……….. I am missing the chill low rpm power of the Cummins and MANY comfort and tech features on my Longhorn Ram. Thinking about buying it back.
It’s not even a contest. Ram threw a big screen in their truck but made no changes to the body or power train and called it 5th gen. It’s laziness. Their exterior is dated. The interior is crammed into a 4th gen cab. I was a Ram guy most of my life, but to be factual, Ford offers the best truck. Options options options.
If you are pulling day in day out powerstroke can’t compare to Cummins. That same engine that’s in ram is also put in international Freightliner Hino and kw and Pete St trucks
Agreed. Ram has been slacking big time ever since they slapped the big screen. The cab, even though it’s a 4th gen isn’t too bad, F series cab has more room overall but not by much. Powertrain is no contest performance wise, though the Powerstroke’s exhaust brake is not as effective as what’s in the Cummins. I would expect 2025 to be the year with major changes.
@jellybeanjoe8597 aisen is a full commercial grade transmission. There is no point but that the other two cannot compare to Cummins. There’s a reason all Big trucks use inline 6
I own a 2017 with the Powerstroke and I had a Ram 2500 with the Cummins as a company truck. The Ford definitely has more power and the better transmission. The HO 6.7 is a absolute animal in comparison to even my 2017.
As far as being “dated”…….new only last until the ink on the paper dries. Kind of like the old adage “Beauty is only skin deep”! Reality is we here in the USA think we have to look good in front of a bunch of strangers. Buying something one doesn’t need with money they don’t have to impress people they don’t know. Had plenty of Fords over the years, got decent service out of most of them until the CP4 injection pump went south and parts were on national backorder. Had a tough time trusting one after that. Now have an ‘18 RAM 3500 DRW CTD HO w/ the AISIN and couldn’t be happier. It has absolutely no trouble doing the speed limit even with my 18000 pound triple axle Raptor in tow. Although I generally just set the cruise at 67-68 MPH and let ‘er chug. Doesn’t need a 10 speed transmission, exhaust braking is great. Actually feels more planted than the 350 Ford DRW did. But, to each their own. All three are pretty damn good trucks any more.
ford drives like crap, when empty, always did, have one.....but also comparing daily driving is silly, those trucks should be compared in field what they are made for - TOWING or bed fully loaded. Daily driving or empty 0-60 - thats field for half tones.
I'm a heavy tower, that is 16 to 20K loads, and I move that weight with a 2015 3500 SO Cummins with 3:42s and a 68RFE. I must admit I've yet to see a person standing by my destination with a checkered flag but I always get to my destination without any drama. I'm perplexed why all these various comparisons (you and others) between the brands always focus on zero to whatever speed times. Hook them up to a 15K load and run up and down some mountain passes and do some flat towing in the desert. Then tell me which brand does the best in handling, braking, comfort, and MPG.
This. They use sports car standard to measure these truck’s capabilities. I’d like to see them hauling a skid full of cinder blocks along highways and hauling heaving trailers, which these trucks are meant to do. The Ram may be slower in its load less 0-60 but they knew that anyway. Where the Cummins shines is in its low-end torque.
THIS WHAT WE NEED!!!! I’m definitely thinking of getting a 4th gen Cummins for my business as well towing 12-15k. I’ve just been between the 2018 3500 or the F250 7.3L. Would like better MPG but same time I would like something that can be put to work and not stress on repairs every 30k miles . Have a 24’ Chevy 2500HD and it’s in the shop for 4-12 weeks and it only has 30th miles.
Not sure what you were talking about with the led headlights being standard on the ford. Maybe standard on platinum trim or with lariat ultimate package, but not on a regular lariat. Last fall, when I was looking at ordering a ford lariat, the led headlights was an extra package and I think led tail lights were still another extra package.
Not true for 23 and up. LED standard on lariat and XLT as an option. What is whack though is you can only get LED taillights on Platinum and higher now. That’s a weird place for Ford to have cut cost. I suspect they didn’t want to have to make and LED housing without smart scales as you could option the Lariat with or without, but King Ranch is a mystery.
@@Killbot754 I've pretty much given up on trying to guess what option they're going to charge more for next week that was part of the standard trim level package the week before.
Well, I guess I just have to get used to being embarrassed by Ford and Chevy on power train. But I did just get 25 MPG between Oklahoma City and Houston. Then 19 MPG pulling a small 2000lbs trailer back.
It’s pretty much all downhill between here and there is part of it. And that’s by far the best I’ve got. Not deleted though. And I regularly get 21-22 between OKC and Tulsa.
I own a 2015 F250, but ya gotta give a point to Ram for the amazing sound of one when deleted. That straight piped Cummins sounds like a semi when that exhaust brake kicks on. 😮💨
@@ZR1Terror Well my friend, that’s what makes the world go round is having different perspectives. I’m on the opposite side of that, as in I can’t stand the sound of loud gasoline engines but could listen to a 5.9 Cummins all day long lol.
@@curtischung1009 nope. All diesel “exhausts” sound ugly, no matter how you put it. Now the diesel engines themselves sound beautiful. I have a diesel myself, a Duramax and I love the engine sound. I also hate the black smoke in deleted diesels. I am ok with the DPF but the need to find a better way to make these engines more reliable.
I’m a 45 year truck driver in New Zealand where hills are hills! That is where the Cummins stakes its claim with maximum payload consist! Uphill and downhill! These are trucks you’re talking about not race cars. Put a load on it and show your Fords and Chevrolets the headlights of a Cummins powered Ram and I’m sure you’ll find the Ram won’t be in the rear for long! And then show all 3 trucks a 15 percent gradient and see who’s the brakes glowing half way down the gradient and also who has used the most fuel.
I’ve noticed as our 23 Ram is breaking in, the fuel mileage gets better and better. Up over 23 mpg on the last 120 mile round trip (mostly flat). A good video to make next might be a reliability comparison. This involves collecting data from other sources. I feel like the Ram 6.7/68rfe is tried and true. It isn’t going to break any records but It just works. The Powerstroke is definitely more powerful but several people I know with the last few model years are having reliability issues. They’re all maintenance freaks so I don’t think it neglect. Overall, I liked the value we got in our 23 2500 4d 4wd Tradesman. I love the vinyl seats (they look like leather to me) and the simplicity. A comparably equipped Powerstroke was $10k more. But arguably that Powerstroke is more capable… I just don’t need all of that power (and potential mechanical issues) for pulling a fairly light fifth wheel. The exhaust brake on the Ram is absolutely amazing. 2 cents.
Good review of your Ram, in my opinion you are spot on about your Ram, there is a lot of Value in your truck, for you are using it for, you have certainly bought the right one for yourself, and with the most value. thanks for weighing in with your opinion.
Ram has good value. But id skip the 2500 for the 3500 with the h.o. with aisin transmission. Otherwise i don’t think its even very comparable to the ford/ bcuz the 68rfe is not the greatest in reliability with heavy towing.
I think you & others are confusing speed for power! That’s just gearing . These trucks all run neck and neck. But in the end it’s a truck not a sports car. So you want power to haul & tow. That’s where the Cummins way out shines any v8
If they put a 6sp manual behind the Cummins I would go for that. I really liked my 01 Dodge for its relative simplicity. I do have a 20 F350 dually and it is a pulling monster with a 40' fifth wheel at 16k lbs. Just got back from a 640 mile pull this evening and it got 11mpg, which was very good considering the hills we pulled and the 40mph wind we were bucking most of the day.
Ram/Cummins didn’t test and engineer for drag racing lmao. The engineered for very low end torques that’s consistent. I can tell you personally if I had to haul a heavy trailer through the mountains I’d pick the Ram a 100 times over.
In an aftermarket aspect though, Ram still dominates in competition as far as drag racing, sled pulls, ect. Cummins is just so much easier, reliable, and cost effective when it comes to building.
@sierrachief117 There is no sled racing, there's trailer drag racing, and there's sled pulling. It's a competition about pulling power, which usually diesels dominate at.
I got to this video while researching for my next buy.. that payload number on the Ram feels super low.. my current truck, an F150 has a payload of 2,043 pounds on door sticker..
Slow for what? Your appointments? I have driven all three, and they all get me to where I need to be on time, if not early. I don't understand your statement.
Is that right for the mph on the 1/8 mile? Ram loses in everything but had a higher mph barely? Do you feel as if torque management is more of the problem?
Just sold my 2022 Ram 3500, hated it so much I took a huge bath on it. My 2017 Ford F350 was a much nicer truck is almost every aspect, going back to Ford.
I enjoy your videos and this is an interesting comparison. While the fuel economy numbers from the computer is something to compare, it’s a software estimation. I think measurements of fuel economy like TFLtruck does are more accurate than the computer. I have had a variety of vehicles (cars and trucks) under and over perform to the number from the computer.
Some price comparison would be good info to include. Which truck do you need? The Ford , im sure is a vary expensive truck in comparison. Im a Ford guy, but purchase price & actually use needs are king these days.
I pull travel trailers for a living. I have a 2011 Ram 3500 dually that I bought in Sept. of 2012 with 10,095 miles on it. I currently have 1,200.000 miles on my ram. Lets see ford beat that. Original engine,transmission (68rfe) & injectors. Turbo replaced at 927,000.
Ram's biggest problem is the lack of hp and the 6 speed transmission. Despite what people think, these diesels actually have a very narrow powerband. and so the tight ratios with the 10 speed really help keep the engine at peak power.
4:43 You see that little 4Runner? That thing gets like 12mpg's, it's slow, rides very "choppy and rocky" .... I have one but I love it!!! However, I need a bigger HD truck for work and this is why I'm here lol 😂 Also, however bad the Ford or Dodge HD will ride, mehhh coming from a 4Runner; it'll be an upgrade 😂.
So I’ll be the guy that says the 10 speed transmissions suck. They’re fine at highway speeds but you’re always in too high of a gear on hilly roads with lower speeds. It lugs the engine to the point of having to downshift. I have to remember to lock out 9-10 on those types of roads.
Lots of salty Cummins fan boys in here making excuses and still in denial that their tried and true Cummins simply isn’t a contender anymore. You love to see it 😂
@backcountrycrusin Low end?… both are Engineered to produce low end torque & tow. The Tow Capacity is higher on Ford (much higher on 1 Ton F450 compared to other Dually’s). The Engine Brake is adjustable on Ford as well… can be higher than video test. Ram /Cummins has been top notch… hasn’t improved much last few years while emission systems have been getting heavier… this is another variable Ford seems to be advancing. Cab… no contest; Features & Size… Ford provides more size & comfort for my 6’8” frame.
Ram has the highest hp and torq for gas burners but diesel idk why they cant step their game up. Im a ram fan but if i buy a 3/4 ton im going f250 allday long
I own a 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 HD, the power numbers are exactly the same for torque as my truck and the horsepower is only like 25 more, I think you said 375 HP. That's sad, that's 12 yrs of the same power level. They're not the Dodge Ram trucks of the early and mid 2000's that brought the fight to the other 2 big manufacturers that earned them a place of respect. I have owned 4 Dodge Cummins 1999, I refuse to buy equipment from someone who doesn't try to continue to raise the bar in the diesel market. I buy a diesel not to virtue signal, but to actually use it pulling my work trailers with. Dodge also lost me when they dropped the "Dodge" name from their trucks, that SOB was a "Dodge" long before the "Ram" got added on. I'll never buy a "Ram", I'll go buy a brand X simply for that reason. Maybe why their beginning to lag so far behind in the truck wars. Great job on the video for the comparison!!
I'm looking for a hd truck and had to take ford off my list because of the cp4 and bad dealerships. The cp4 might only be a problem for some but I have bad luck so it would be a problem for me.
Ford f-250 has the HP and torque that it does because it's made for daily hauling. Is it over powered? Hell no! Having that much power n torque means less stress on the motor buddy.
He's saying that if you have 500hp and 1200f/lb of torque you don't have to use all of it! Just cruise along taking it easy...but if you need it it's there. Ford rules.
@@MrTonaluv only because Cummins hasn’t updated the 6.7 in over a decade. Till then the Powerstroke is the best of the 3, however, Cummins still retains its top spot reliability.
i hope it is obvious to people here that such a short fuel economy test using the trucks computer means next to nothing. I know he can't take brand new trucks he doesnt own and do a full tank of similar driving but that is where you get some useful data. Brand new trucks that are not broken in at all will be different than those trucks at 20k miles. Cummins inline 6 leaves plenty of space for exhaust brake and why it will always outperform a V8 brake.
If I wanted to spend 100k on something fast I wouldn't buy a truck because there are better options now if I wanted to haul or tow something well I'll buy an older truck and save the money. The only way I would spend 100k on a truck would be if I won lottery and considering I don't play the chances of that happening are nill.
I’ve had a 17 ford power stroke, a 20 7.3 gasser and now in a 22 Chevy High Country duramax. Chevys ride quality is way better than fords with the independent suspension. It tows our 37’ rv amazing.
So you now have the ugliest pile on the road. I'll take a little rougher ride in a much better looking truck, and take the superior durability as a bonus
I’ll just start with admitting I am 100% Ram fanboy. I have been driving them for 30 years now and love the trucks but, they definitely need to step it up. Their new so called 5th Gen is nothing but a 4th Gen with some lipstick. Why do they keep using that dang 68RFE! Get it out of there and get us a bulletproof 10 speed along with putting the HO in the 3/4 tons and we’ll own the market. Ram has had the best interior for years but still can’t put a panoramic sunroof in their heavy duty’s? As for the cab size though I am 6’3” and 350 lbs and find the cab is plenty roomy for even me. I’ll be sticking with my 16’ Ram 2500 until they do a complete redesign or I find myself over at the Ford store though I just really don’t want a truck with 55 gallon drums for headlights. Lets go Ram!
Same, I've had 3 of them. A 2008, 2011 and now a 2021. I love their interiors above Ford and Chevy. Ford is a close second though and I've just never been a fan of the Chevy interior. As far as the exterior of the 5th gen goes I think it looks amazing. You're spot on with those Ford headlights. They're huge! Plus I think the front end of Fords look like blocks. The 68RFE has been updated throughout the years and has gotten better but it is time for a new transmission in those. The 68 I had in my 2011 was still alive after 60% over injectors and an S465 for 3 years when I traded it in. I'd probably own a Ford this go around just for something different. But to find the equivalent trim to my 21 Laramie Night edition Ram was so much more expensive. Plus I know Rams well now. I know where everything is located under the hood and body.
the performance is different for sure. I know somebody who’s emissions system went belly up in their ford and another person i know got their ram the same time and his hasn’t had a single emissions problem. I think that the reliability of the Ram completely beats out the Ford.
Looks of course are subjective, and I think the ford's are ugly, but that me. That's the least of my concerns though, how reliable, storage, does it accomplish all of my needs? I don't care if it's 2 seconds faster if it spends more days in the shop.
Having put many a mile on both power-plants, commercially and privately, I’ll take the Cummins every time. While the Cummins is pricey to repair, the power stroke spent as much time in the shop as on the road. The ford would be lucky to make 3 or 4 trips without a breakdown. The Cummins would go for months.
I would rather these manufacturers focus on fuel economy on these big rigs instead battling over torque and 🐎 power which all of the big three are more then capable of towing 95 percent of people needs/equipment. What’s next 600 horsepower 1500lbs of torque all the while still getting horrible fuel economy. Keep it around 1000 to 1200 torque and give the consumer 30+ miles to gallon come on people demand more from these manufacturers
They get good fuel mileage. My father has a 2022 with 6.7 diesel 10 speed max tow package. Good power we roll 33-35,000 lbs gross at 70 mph pretty easily . So yeah 10 speed makes that easily possible. The truck unloaded gets 20 mpg pretty easy. Light trailer can do 15 pretty easy as it does it effortlessly/doesn’t have to strain. I figure one with higher gearing (not 4:10) should get over 20 pretty easily. Pretty good i think my brothers 2008 f350 averages 16-17 highway for comparison.
@@dfg2783 then why aren’t the powerstrokes put in more commercial applications. Look at F 650 and 750 for sale. Most have the gas engine in them. No way is the powerstroke going to outlast a 6.7 Cummins in a real truck application. Plus those engines are really busy needing to regenerate about every hundred miles! Break that down for me
The fact that the Ram was that slow with an empty tank of fuel hurts even more ! Lmao 🤣 Plus that one has the crappy Chrysler transmission! No thanks ! The Aisin only comes on the 3500 HO option.
The "crappy Chrysler" trans (68rfe) was co designed by GM & Ford. Chrysler was contracted to build them (they are ran in multiple brands). So I believe you're saying NO Way to the Ram because Ford & GM hasn't been able to design a trans the Cummins won't shred. And maybe Ram should not run them. The Aisin is a Toyota transmission for their commercial trucks. As a Ram owner of multiple HD trucks, it's all about the Cummins, not the badge. If they made a Tundra HD with the 6.7 Cummins it would be game over for the big three. Probably why we'll never seen one.
I'm a 55 year old mechanic since I was 16 Everything Dodge makes is a piece of junk. They are the laughing stock of the industry. FYI, Chevrolet is catching up to them.
I will keep my old slow RAM-Cummins with the CP3 injection pump that just keeps on chugging ratherf that the Ford with the CP4 that breaks and then Ford can’t get repairs for.
@@invisisense5464 Yes, 2019 and 2020 RAM got the CP4. 2021 got a revised version of the CP3 (AFAIK). Then RAM issued a recall on the ‘19’s and 20’s to do away with the CP4 and install the revised pump of the newer models.
@@invisisense5464 Also, the Dirtymax had the CP4 from 2011 to 2017 if I remember correctly. They didn’t have a stellar record with them either. . That is why they ditched it too, I think beginnig in 2018.
I've had both and the Ram is a much heavier truck and feels a little more stable towing and has better fit and finish on the interior The Ford pulls harder, feels much stronger and is by far more comfortable. I thought it was just me thinking that, but the rest of family agreed.
I’ll take the Ram in-line 6 all day long over any V8. The only downside to the Cummings is it need a better transmission. You put a upgraded ZF 8spd with 3.73 gears or even 3.55 gears would make a world of difference.
I like them all but I've always been a ram fan but i have good luck from ford. They all have there problems ram has always got better fuel mileage pulling than ford. From coast to coast ford is like a race car ram is like a mac it just pulls better where it matters . Both have gotten so expensive the working man is the one thats being pushed out i want even look at a ford because they've gotten so expensive . The people that buy them to work them for a living is the one that are being pushed out
The only thing I have learned from the comment section of all your videos is that all trucks are equal at sucking and being great at the same time. Just drive what like for the price you can afford. Only thing I despise are the diesel fanboys who talk endlessly about how great it is to tow with their trucks when they need that 3500 to tow their 4k lb dingy to the local pond.
The Ram Cummins has alway been designed to tow. It was never attended for racing. Great video. I think Ram should kill the standard output Cummings. Put the HO in all models along with a HD 8spd auto. Dodge did that back in 2005 I believe and got rid of a headache. It brings the cost down on the HO models because it becomes the normal motor and transmission.
Ford cant keep anything and just improve on it. Theres a reason the 5.9 cummins was kegendary in its time and the 6.7 now going since 2007 with improvement along the way and these engines just keep going! Most hot shot trucks are pulling in a Cummins. All big rigs are inline 6 for a reason. You want speed buy a sports car. You want towing power, reliability and that beautiful big rig spund get a cummins! Lets not forget he tested non HO cummins vs an HO powerstroke... thats 300ft lbs difference at minimum
ford has had their 6.7 engine since 2011 so idk what ur ford cant keep anything statement is about. Also the Ford engineered their own engine and doesn't have to rely on someone else.
Cummins are the most in-demand diesel engines in the world and have been for multiple decades. They are second to none, and that's not even up for debate.
If you're buying a 7+thousand pound vehicle to win a drag race, you're doing it wrong. If you want reliability that tows without hesitation for as long as you want, you'd best get a Cummins imo. They don't put "ego strokes" or "duropax" in REAL big trucks for a reason...
Went from a 2021 F350 to a 2020 megacab Ram. Both diesel. And the Ford is faster. But pulling, the Ram feels better. More stable and just feel more grounded. My wife even made the comment about the Ram just feeling better and safer than the Ford Not to mention much better braking power..
To clarify, I never felt unsafe in the Ford. But it's clear what tows better in regards of handling, power feel and hills. It's the Ram. Also the Ram is definitely more comfortable. I think going fast is just a boyish thinking. Men want to stop and control loads and take hills at comfortable speeds. I drove semi for 10 years and I definitly want safety over speedy pulling. Too many do that today....
Most useful comment to me, so far. Just what I needed to know.
Since you don’t truck anymore what do you do now? I’m only asking because I’m coming up on 10 years as a trucker myself.
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@@gangsta19x My dad was a trucker for about 10 years. Then he got into contstruxtion, starting small with Stucco and then moving on to masonry, opening up his own contractor company.
Ford does everything better but somehow the Ram is more stable ? You sound like a fan boy.
I had a 2010 Ram Cummins 2500 Laramie that was parked onnthe showroom floor. Jt was the biggest piece of trash. Everything went wrong one time or another. Things malfunctioned or failed and never worked again. Sold it under 3 years later. Several years later i bought a 20q7 Ford F250 6.7 Lariat. It never failed to start except once when the battery was worn and died. Everything worked much better. Things were better wuakitym no more back aches driving all day. Still have it 6 years later and will jeep it as long as it keep working.
I love my 23 Superduty HO. Its breaking in more. I like ford's buttons and all without having to go into the screen. I've gotten used to the ford. I like how the cameras comes one when he sensor is trip. I love the cab, getting great milage etc.
Plus, I'll take as much power pulling he passes in CO as I can. My f350 rides better than my 21 3500 with air suspension. I've had three rams and this is my first Superduty and I'm not looking back.
Still feel the same way? I’m between these 2 trucks rn.
I don’t care what anyone says. I had a 2023 Chevy 2500. It was a custom. The comfort compared to ram was not there. I had the Chevy for 7 months. Traded it for a ram 23. Yes I can tell the ram is definitely slower then the v8 Chevy but it’s definitely way more comfortable. I think it even drives better and has better turning radius. Can’t deny Chevy and fords v8s but it’s hard to beat that inline 6 and engine break on the ram. Yes ram definitely needs a redesign but as far as I’m concerned they still have the best interior 6 years in a row. Hopefully in 2025 they redesign and can take their first place throne back.
After owning a 24’ Chevy 2500hd. I will definitely be waiting for a 2025 Cummins and hoping it’s something new. If it’s not I’ll be going to the 4th gen Dodge.
Ram needs to update that old Sunroof and a few other things, the only thing that keeps that ram alive is that Cummings Engine.
Fords exhaust break does have different levels as well seems to really work when towing a load
The tow/ haul on my F350 srw works really well. Play with my exhaust break a few times. But don't need to use it And was told it burns up additional Def.
The Ford HO is an absolute race car. I spin the tires in my regular output 24 F250. I had purchased a 24 Ram Longhorn and the power was not what I was used to in a powerstroke, so I traded it with 1000 miles on it for a powerstroke. But……….. I am missing the chill low rpm power of the Cummins and MANY comfort and tech features on my Longhorn Ram. Thinking about buying it back.
It’s not even a contest. Ram threw a big screen in their truck but made no changes to the body or power train and called it 5th gen. It’s laziness. Their exterior is dated. The interior is crammed into a 4th gen cab. I was a Ram guy most of my life, but to be factual, Ford offers the best truck. Options options options.
Man you said it best.
Reliability!!!! and money, money, money, in my mind it all about the value and the Ram is 10,000 dollars less.
If you are pulling day in day out powerstroke can’t compare to Cummins. That same engine that’s in ram is also put in international Freightliner Hino and kw and Pete St trucks
Agreed. Ram has been slacking big time ever since they slapped the big screen. The cab, even though it’s a 4th gen isn’t too bad, F series cab has more room overall but not by much. Powertrain is no contest performance wise, though the Powerstroke’s exhaust brake is not as effective as what’s in the Cummins.
I would expect 2025 to be the year with major changes.
@jellybeanjoe8597 aisen is a full commercial grade transmission. There is no point but that the other two cannot compare to Cummins. There’s a reason all Big trucks use inline 6
I own a 2017 with the Powerstroke and I had a Ram 2500 with the Cummins as a company truck. The Ford definitely has more power and the better transmission. The HO 6.7 is a absolute animal in comparison to even my 2017.
Very good and informative video for normal buyers like me!! Tx JB!! Keep up the great work!
As far as being “dated”…….new only last until the ink on the paper dries. Kind of like the old adage “Beauty is only skin deep”! Reality is we here in the USA think we have to look good in front of a bunch of strangers. Buying something one doesn’t need with money they don’t have to impress people they don’t know.
Had plenty of Fords over the years, got decent service out of most of them until the CP4 injection pump went south and parts were on national backorder. Had a tough time trusting one after that. Now have an ‘18 RAM 3500 DRW CTD HO w/ the AISIN and couldn’t be happier. It has absolutely no trouble doing the speed limit even with my 18000 pound triple axle Raptor in tow. Although I generally just set the cruise at 67-68 MPH and let ‘er chug. Doesn’t need a 10 speed transmission, exhaust braking is great. Actually feels more planted than the 350 Ford DRW did. But, to each their own. All three are pretty damn good trucks any more.
Which one was more comfortable for everyday driving? That is more important than the quickest 1/4 mile time.
ford drives like crap, when empty, always did, have one.....but also comparing daily driving is silly, those trucks should be compared in field what they are made for - TOWING or bed fully loaded.
Daily driving or empty 0-60 - thats field for half tones.
I'm a heavy tower, that is 16 to 20K loads, and I move that weight with a 2015 3500 SO Cummins with 3:42s and a 68RFE. I must admit I've yet to see a person standing by my destination with a checkered flag but I always get to my destination without any drama. I'm perplexed why all these various comparisons (you and others) between the brands always focus on zero to whatever speed times. Hook them up to a 15K load and run up and down some mountain passes and do some flat towing in the desert. Then tell me which brand does the best in handling, braking, comfort, and MPG.
This. They use sports car standard to measure these truck’s capabilities. I’d like to see them hauling a skid full of cinder blocks along highways and hauling heaving trailers, which these trucks are meant to do. The Ram may be slower in its load less 0-60 but they knew that anyway. Where the Cummins shines is in its low-end torque.
THIS WHAT WE NEED!!!! I’m definitely thinking of getting a 4th gen Cummins for my business as well towing 12-15k. I’ve just been between the 2018 3500 or the F250 7.3L. Would like better MPG but same time I would like something that can be put to work and not stress on repairs every 30k miles . Have a 24’ Chevy 2500HD and it’s in the shop for 4-12 weeks and it only has 30th miles.
I got a 2019 ran 2500 with the same trans and it crapped out @ 80k. I don't tow super heavy. Just a 30' stock combo.
They aren’t real truck guys
Exactly. I have 2014 same setup as you but only a 2500. I hate the coils wish I had 3500.
I am loving my 24 ram bighorn. It might be dated but I have everything I need in it. Great truck.
Great comparison on these trucks!
Not sure what you were talking about with the led headlights being standard on the ford. Maybe standard on platinum trim or with lariat ultimate package, but not on a regular lariat. Last fall, when I was looking at ordering a ford lariat, the led headlights was an extra package and I think led tail lights were still another extra package.
Not true for 23 and up. LED standard on lariat and XLT as an option. What is whack though is you can only get LED taillights on Platinum and higher now. That’s a weird place for Ford to have cut cost. I suspect they didn’t want to have to make and LED housing without smart scales as you could option the Lariat with or without, but King Ranch is a mystery.
@@Killbot754 I've pretty much given up on trying to guess what option they're going to charge more for next week that was part of the standard trim level package the week before.
Well, I guess I just have to get used to being embarrassed by Ford and Chevy on power train. But I did just get 25 MPG between Oklahoma City and Houston. Then 19 MPG pulling a small 2000lbs trailer back.
Oh yeah I was going 85-90 the whole way on that 25 mpg. If idve gone 75 I bet we would have got closer to 28 mpg.
Your truck must be deleting because trucks with the emissions aren’t seeing those numbers closer to high teens at best.
It’s pretty much all downhill between here and there is part of it. And that’s by far the best I’ve got. Not deleted though. And I regularly get 21-22 between OKC and Tulsa.
I have the new HO power stroke and I'm getting 25mpg and 16mpg towing 15000lb!
@@LumberjackBrandoyour full of shit. My boss has the 2023 h.o 6.7 and averages 16 with no load at all.
Interested to know the price as tested for each. That makes a difference in what you actually get for your money.
I own a 2015 F250, but ya gotta give a point to Ram for the amazing sound of one when deleted. That straight piped Cummins sounds like a semi when that exhaust brake kicks on. 😮💨
It sounds disgusting. All diesel deleted exhausts sound ugly but the ram sounds the worst and it’s super loud.
@@ZR1Terror Well my friend, that’s what makes the world go round is having different perspectives. I’m on the opposite side of that, as in I can’t stand the sound of loud gasoline engines but could listen to a 5.9 Cummins all day long lol.
@@ZR1Terror lol you’re embarrassing yourself
@@ZR1Terroronly thing ugly is your taste. Let me guess you believe electric will be the future of hauling ?
@@curtischung1009 nope. All diesel “exhausts” sound ugly, no matter how you put it. Now the diesel engines themselves sound beautiful. I have a diesel myself, a Duramax and I love the engine sound. I also hate the black smoke in deleted diesels. I am ok with the DPF but the need to find a better way to make these engines more reliable.
Ram need to do a whole update on the engine and chassis
I’m a 45 year truck driver in New Zealand where hills are hills!
That is where the Cummins stakes its claim with maximum payload consist!
Uphill and downhill!
These are trucks you’re talking about not race cars.
Put a load on it and show your Fords and Chevrolets the headlights of a Cummins powered Ram and I’m sure you’ll find the Ram won’t be in the rear for long!
And then show all 3 trucks a 15 percent gradient and see who’s the brakes glowing half way down the gradient and also who has used the most fuel.
They can't handle the truth.
I get these trucks are not for drag racing but it is cool with the Ford and Chevy something that big can accelerate that fast
I’ve noticed as our 23 Ram is breaking in, the fuel mileage gets better and better. Up over 23 mpg on the last 120 mile round trip (mostly flat). A good video to make next might be a reliability comparison. This involves collecting data from other sources. I feel like the Ram 6.7/68rfe is tried and true. It isn’t going to break any records but It just works. The Powerstroke is definitely more powerful but several people I know with the last few model years are having reliability issues. They’re all maintenance freaks so I don’t think it neglect. Overall, I liked the value we got in our 23 2500 4d 4wd Tradesman. I love the vinyl seats (they look like leather to me) and the simplicity. A comparably equipped Powerstroke was $10k more. But arguably that Powerstroke is more capable… I just don’t need all of that power (and potential mechanical issues) for pulling a fairly light fifth wheel. The exhaust brake on the Ram is absolutely amazing. 2 cents.
Good review of your Ram, in my opinion you are spot on about your Ram, there is a lot of Value in your truck, for you are using it for, you have certainly bought the right one for yourself, and with the most value. thanks for weighing in with your opinion.
Ram has good value. But id skip the 2500 for the 3500 with the h.o. with aisin transmission. Otherwise i don’t think its even very comparable to the ford/ bcuz the 68rfe is not the greatest in reliability with heavy towing.
I think you & others are confusing speed for power! That’s just gearing . These trucks all run neck and neck. But in the end it’s a truck not a sports car. So you want power to haul & tow. That’s where the Cummins way out shines any v8
The Cummins is nice. It's everything around the Cummins that suck.
If they put a 6sp manual behind the Cummins I would go for that. I really liked my 01 Dodge for its relative simplicity. I do have a 20 F350 dually and it is a pulling monster with a 40' fifth wheel at 16k lbs. Just got back from a 640 mile pull this evening and it got 11mpg, which was very good considering the hills we pulled and the 40mph wind we were bucking most of the day.
well all i can say is unless you are towing really heavy get the 7.3 i love my 2021 7.3
Maybe I missed it but which truck drives smoother suspension wise?
Ram/Cummins didn’t test and engineer for drag racing lmao. The engineered for very low end torques that’s consistent. I can tell you personally if I had to haul a heavy trailer through the mountains I’d pick the Ram a 100 times over.
In an aftermarket aspect though, Ram still dominates in competition as far as drag racing, sled pulls, ect. Cummins is just so much easier, reliable, and cost effective when it comes to building.
@@lewismcfarcry I never understood the sport of sled racing or tractor pulling. Seems like a stupid thing to put a machine through.
@sierrachief117 There is no sled racing, there's trailer drag racing, and there's sled pulling. It's a competition about pulling power, which usually diesels dominate at.
Had both. Yes.
I got to this video while researching for my next buy.. that payload number on the Ram feels super low.. my current truck, an F150 has a payload of 2,043 pounds on door sticker..
Excellent review!
I like the looks of the Ram but their Cummins engine is just too slow. My powerstroke is crazy fast. The cab is too small also.
Slow for what? Your appointments? I have driven all three, and they all get me to where I need to be on time, if not early. I don't understand your statement.
Good video. Imo the Ford is more comfortable and great power delivery in the 6.7 powerstroke high output. Ford super duty is best in the market
More power more torque more towing more payload. And no cheating!
great info JB.
Is that right for the mph on the 1/8 mile? Ram loses in everything but had a higher mph barely? Do you feel as if torque management is more of the problem?
Both trucks could be a dream, still arent worth the price tag for a "workings mans truck".
Just sold my 2022 Ram 3500, hated it so much I took a huge bath on it. My 2017 Ford F350 was a much nicer truck is almost every aspect, going back to Ford.
What gear ratio? Was it Aisin or 68RFE?
Do you know for towing if there would be a difference between an F250 Fx4 compared to an F250 4x4?
Thanks for showing the payload on the Ford - but I didn't see you discuss that for the Ram - do you know how much it was?
What app dose you use to test the speeds?
I wished ford had a full display mirror
I enjoy your videos and this is an interesting comparison. While the fuel economy numbers from the computer is something to compare, it’s a software estimation. I think measurements of fuel economy like TFLtruck does are more accurate than the computer. I have had a variety of vehicles (cars and trucks) under and over perform to the number from the computer.
The computer is pretty close these days. Usually off by no more than 1 mpg.
Some price comparison would be good info to include. Which truck do you need? The Ford , im sure is a vary expensive truck in comparison.
Im a Ford guy, but purchase price & actually use needs are king these days.
If you are going to pay upwards of $100k for these diesel trucks. You want all the horse power and torque they offer. We want all the the POWER!!!!!!
I pull travel trailers for a living. I have a 2011 Ram 3500 dually that I bought in Sept. of 2012 with 10,095 miles on it. I currently have 1,200.000 miles on my ram. Lets see ford beat that. Original engine,transmission (68rfe) & injectors. Turbo replaced at 927,000.
Ford is for those who always a warranty.
Ram's biggest problem is the lack of hp and the 6 speed transmission. Despite what people think, these diesels actually have a very narrow powerband. and so the tight ratios with the 10 speed really help keep the engine at peak power.
HotShots need 500HP and 1200 torque.
4:43 You see that little 4Runner? That thing gets like 12mpg's, it's slow, rides very "choppy and rocky" .... I have one but I love it!!! However, I need a bigger HD truck for work and this is why I'm here lol 😂 Also, however bad the Ford or Dodge HD will ride, mehhh coming from a 4Runner; it'll be an upgrade 😂.
So I’ll be the guy that says the 10 speed transmissions suck. They’re fine at highway speeds but you’re always in too high of a gear on hilly roads with lower speeds. It lugs the engine to the point of having to downshift. I have to remember to lock out 9-10 on those types of roads.
My 10 speed is flawless. From flat roads to mountain passes. It does not hunt gears at all.
6 speed 6r140!
@@oldnumber6 gm or ford
Agreed 10 speeds are garbage. 6 speed is definitely the sweet spots.
10 spd were made to keep revs lower for emissions purposes only.
Is the f-250 presented a lariet
Lots of salty Cummins fan boys in here making excuses and still in denial that their tried and true Cummins simply isn’t a contender anymore. You love to see it 😂
Cool bro, always someone with the "salty fanboys" comment for virtually any youtube video out there.
Lol, the Cummins HO embarrasses the powerchoke at pulling and reliability...
Ford fanboys are the worst... 🙄
Lol no one’s mad😂 as being a diesel mechanic. I’ve seen more 6.7 PS engines and 6-10 speed trans in for repairs more then any cummins/ detroit
@@curtischung1009Im ford .. but that’s true ..
people are not neutral 🫥 😂😂😂
@backcountrycrusin Low end?… both are Engineered to produce low end torque & tow. The Tow Capacity is higher on Ford (much higher on 1 Ton F450 compared to other Dually’s).
The Engine Brake is adjustable on Ford as well… can be higher than video test.
Ram /Cummins has been top notch… hasn’t improved much last few years while emission systems have been getting heavier… this is another variable Ford seems to be advancing.
Cab… no contest; Features & Size… Ford provides more size & comfort for my 6’8” frame.
Just wait until that 2025 ram drops with the new Cummins HO and Zf 8 speed then compare them
Ram has the highest hp and torq for gas burners but diesel idk why they cant step their game up. Im a ram fan but if i buy a 3/4 ton im going f250 allday long
I own a 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 HD, the power numbers are exactly the same for torque as my truck and the horsepower is only like 25 more, I think you said 375 HP. That's sad, that's 12 yrs of the same power level. They're not the Dodge Ram trucks of the early and mid 2000's that brought the fight to the other 2 big manufacturers that earned them a place of respect. I have owned 4 Dodge Cummins 1999, I refuse to buy equipment from someone who doesn't try to continue to raise the bar in the diesel market. I buy a diesel not to virtue signal, but to actually use it pulling my work trailers with. Dodge also lost me when they dropped the "Dodge" name from their trucks, that SOB was a "Dodge" long before the "Ram" got added on. I'll never buy a "Ram", I'll go buy a brand X simply for that reason. Maybe why their beginning to lag so far behind in the truck wars.
Great job on the video for the comparison!!
I'm looking for a hd truck and had to take ford off my list because of the cp4 and bad dealerships. The cp4 might only be a problem for some but I have bad luck so it would be a problem for me.
curious what the price difference is. i just picked up one of the rebel 2500 gas burners, and it was almost 15k cheaper than the equivalent ford
Ford looks great, and is faster, but for towing and a great exhaust break the RAM is the winner.
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Nice seat belt placement. WTF? Otherwise, great video as always.
I own the for high output, still think the ram front looks nicer
Ford f-250 has the HP and torque that it does because it's made for daily hauling. Is it over powered? Hell no! Having that much power n torque means less stress on the motor buddy.
No it doesn't not mean that at all
It means exactly the opposite. Lmao the kind of logic you get out of a Ford guy.
He's saying that if you have 500hp and 1200f/lb of torque you don't have to use all of it! Just cruise along taking it easy...but if you need it it's there. Ford rules.
@@MrTonaluv only because Cummins hasn’t updated the 6.7 in over a decade. Till then the Powerstroke is the best of the 3, however, Cummins still retains its top spot reliability.
Typical ford logic 🫠😐
Just on the 0-60 the Ram is 100% out for me. I can’t have my wife’s CR-V hybrid dusting me off the line…..
I'll keep my 2015. IT'S PAID FOR! And it's a manual transmission
i hope it is obvious to people here that such a short fuel economy test using the trucks computer means next to nothing. I know he can't take brand new trucks he doesnt own and do a full tank of similar driving but that is where you get some useful data. Brand new trucks that are not broken in at all will be different than those trucks at 20k miles. Cummins inline 6 leaves plenty of space for exhaust brake and why it will always outperform a V8 brake.
If I wanted to spend 100k on something fast I wouldn't buy a truck because there are better options now if I wanted to haul or tow something well I'll buy an older truck and save the money. The only way I would spend 100k on a truck would be if I won lottery and considering I don't play the chances of that happening are nill.
I’ve had a 17 ford power stroke, a 20 7.3 gasser and now in a 22 Chevy High Country duramax. Chevys ride quality is way better than fords with the independent suspension. It tows our 37’ rv amazing.
So you now have the ugliest pile on the road. I'll take a little rougher ride in a much better looking truck, and take the superior durability as a bonus
I’ll just start with admitting I am 100% Ram fanboy. I have been driving them for 30 years now and love the trucks but, they definitely need to step it up. Their new so called 5th Gen is nothing but a 4th Gen with some lipstick. Why do they keep using that dang 68RFE! Get it out of there and get us a bulletproof 10 speed along with putting the HO in the 3/4 tons and we’ll own the market. Ram has had the best interior for years but still can’t put a panoramic sunroof in their heavy duty’s? As for the cab size though I am 6’3” and 350 lbs and find the cab is plenty roomy for even me. I’ll be sticking with my 16’ Ram 2500 until they do a complete redesign or I find myself over at the Ford store though I just really don’t want a truck with 55 gallon drums for headlights. Lets go Ram!
Same, I've had 3 of them. A 2008, 2011 and now a 2021. I love their interiors above Ford and Chevy. Ford is a close second though and I've just never been a fan of the Chevy interior. As far as the exterior of the 5th gen goes I think it looks amazing. You're spot on with those Ford headlights. They're huge! Plus I think the front end of Fords look like blocks. The 68RFE has been updated throughout the years and has gotten better but it is time for a new transmission in those. The 68 I had in my 2011 was still alive after 60% over injectors and an S465 for 3 years when I traded it in. I'd probably own a Ford this go around just for something different. But to find the equivalent trim to my 21 Laramie Night edition Ram was so much more expensive. Plus I know Rams well now. I know where everything is located under the hood and body.
the performance is different for sure. I know somebody who’s emissions system went belly up in their ford and another person i know got their ram the same time and his hasn’t had a single emissions problem. I think that the reliability of the Ram completely beats out the Ford.
Had both hi output trucks. I prefer the ram. For literally everything.
Do people really buy $70-$100k trucks to go fast?
Is no one going to mention him wearing his seat belt improperly?
Looks of course are subjective, and I think the ford's are ugly, but that me. That's the least of my concerns though, how reliable, storage, does it accomplish all of my needs? I don't care if it's 2 seconds faster if it spends more days in the shop.
Still going to have a Ram, looking forward to the 2025 mega cab
Having put many a mile on both power-plants, commercially and privately, I’ll take the Cummins every time. While the Cummins is pricey to repair, the power stroke spent as much time in the shop as on the road. The ford would be lucky to make 3 or 4 trips without a breakdown. The Cummins would go for months.
I would rather these manufacturers focus on fuel economy on these big rigs instead battling over torque and 🐎 power which all of the big three are more then capable of towing 95 percent of people needs/equipment. What’s next 600 horsepower 1500lbs of torque all the while still getting horrible fuel economy. Keep it around 1000 to 1200 torque and give the consumer 30+ miles to gallon come on people demand more from these manufacturers
They get good fuel mileage. My father has a 2022 with 6.7 diesel 10 speed max tow package. Good power we roll 33-35,000 lbs gross at 70 mph pretty easily . So yeah 10 speed makes that easily possible. The truck unloaded gets 20 mpg pretty easy. Light trailer can do 15 pretty easy as it does it effortlessly/doesn’t have to strain. I figure one with higher gearing (not 4:10) should get over 20 pretty easily. Pretty good i think my brothers 2008 f350 averages 16-17 highway for comparison.
The Ram might be dated but definitely looks higher quality with fit and finish plus for pulling there is no substitute for inline 6
The argument about “no substitute for inline 6” is gone. The Powerstroke simply does everything so much better than the cummins.
@@dfg2783 then why aren’t the powerstrokes put in more commercial applications. Look at F 650 and 750 for sale. Most have the gas engine in them. No way is the powerstroke going to outlast a 6.7 Cummins in a real truck application. Plus those engines are really busy needing to regenerate about every hundred miles! Break that down for me
@@dfg2783that Cummins will out last the powerstroke
@@dfg2783in stock form it has a marginal power advantage. That is literally the only advantage the PSD has.
@@dfg2783exhaust brake not even close. Durability not even close. Power empty yes it does.
Due to a tractor upgrade, I'm trading my 2023 1500 Laramie for a 2024 F350 7.3l. If I were buying a diesel, it would be the Ram.
The fact that the Ram was that slow with an empty tank of fuel hurts even more ! Lmao 🤣 Plus that one has the crappy Chrysler transmission! No thanks ! The Aisin only comes on the 3500 HO option.
The "crappy Chrysler" trans (68rfe) was co designed by GM & Ford. Chrysler was contracted to build them (they are ran in multiple brands). So I believe you're saying NO Way to the Ram because Ford & GM hasn't been able to design a trans the Cummins won't shred. And maybe Ram should not run them. The Aisin is a Toyota transmission for their commercial trucks. As a Ram owner of multiple HD trucks, it's all about the Cummins, not the badge. If they made a Tundra HD with the 6.7 Cummins it would be game over for the big three. Probably why we'll never seen one.
I'm a 55 year old mechanic since I was 16
Everything Dodge makes is a piece of junk. They are the laughing stock of the industry. FYI, Chevrolet is catching up to them.
How is a 2019 dated? Ford rocked the same shit interior and box headlights since like 2016.
I will keep my old slow RAM-Cummins with the CP3 injection pump that just keeps on chugging ratherf that the Ford with the CP4 that breaks and then Ford can’t get repairs for.
Pretty sure the 2019+ Rams got em too, sadly. Only the Duramax doesn’t have them.
@@invisisense5464 Yes, 2019 and 2020 RAM got the CP4. 2021 got a revised version of the CP3 (AFAIK). Then RAM issued a recall on the ‘19’s and 20’s to do away with the CP4 and install the revised pump of the newer models.
@@invisisense5464 Also, the Dirtymax had the CP4 from 2011 to 2017 if I remember correctly. They didn’t have a stellar record with them either. . That is why they ditched it too, I think beginnig in 2018.
I've had both and the Ram is a much heavier truck and feels a little more stable towing and has better fit and finish on the interior
The Ford pulls harder, feels much stronger and is by far more comfortable. I thought it was just me thinking that, but the rest of family agreed.
The Ram had a higher speed at the 1/8 mile. Go figure.
I’ll take the Ram in-line 6 all day long over any V8. The only downside to the Cummings is it need a better transmission. You put a upgraded ZF 8spd with 3.73 gears or even 3.55 gears would make a world of difference.
I like them all but I've always been a ram fan but i have good luck from ford. They all have there problems ram has always got better fuel mileage pulling than ford. From coast to coast ford is like a race car ram is like a mac it just pulls better where it matters . Both have gotten so expensive the working man is the one thats being pushed out i want even look at a ford because they've gotten so expensive . The people that buy them to work them for a living is the one that are being pushed out
Ram looks way better, now go tow across the country and see who makes it
Ram is gonna do nothing but hold down third place.
The only thing I have learned from the comment section of all your videos is that all trucks are equal at sucking and being great at the same time. Just drive what like for the price you can afford.
Only thing I despise are the diesel fanboys who talk endlessly about how great it is to tow with their trucks when they need that 3500 to tow their 4k lb dingy to the local pond.
The Ram Cummins has alway been designed to tow. It was never attended for racing. Great video. I think Ram should kill the standard output Cummings. Put the HO in all models along with a HD 8spd auto. Dodge did that back in 2005 I believe and got rid of a headache. It brings the cost down on the HO models because it becomes the normal motor and transmission.
Cummins> power stroke
Delete the Cummins and see what happens then !
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Rams built to tow not race. Ram allday long!!
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The guys who race them always ruin them.
Let’s be honest you can say all the things ford has but it’s all about performance and Ram is in top rn
Ford cant keep anything and just improve on it. Theres a reason the 5.9 cummins was kegendary in its time and the 6.7 now going since 2007 with improvement along the way and these engines just keep going! Most hot shot trucks are pulling in a Cummins. All big rigs are inline 6 for a reason.
You want speed buy a sports car. You want towing power, reliability and that beautiful big rig spund get a cummins! Lets not forget he tested non HO cummins vs an HO powerstroke... thats 300ft lbs difference at minimum
ford has had their 6.7 engine since 2011 so idk what ur ford cant keep anything statement is about. Also the Ford engineered their own engine and doesn't have to rely on someone else.
Ram always beats ford
As a mechanic I hate ford
As a mechanic I prefer ram
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Clearly your not a mechanic because if you were you would know the ford outperforms the ram in every single aspect…
If you want a high output diesel, you should be looking at 3500, not 2500!
Cummins are the most in-demand diesel engines in the world and have been for multiple decades. They are second to none, and that's not even up for debate.
Inline 6 is the only way for longevity.
Dogma will always prevail.
If you're buying a 7+thousand pound vehicle to win a drag race, you're doing it wrong. If you want reliability that tows without hesitation for as long as you want, you'd best get a Cummins imo. They don't put "ego strokes" or "duropax" in REAL big trucks for a reason...