History of the Slavic Languages
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- History of the Slavic Languages, Slavs, Proto-Slavic, East Slavic, West Slavic, South Slavic, Old Church Slavonic, South East Slavic, South West Slavic, Lechitic, Polabian, Sorbian, Pomeranian, Polish, Ruthenian, Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Rusyn, Serbo-Croatian, Slovene, Bulgarian, Slavic Macedonian
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this map is all wrong. The Croats weren't striped. They're checkered. It's a big difference.
😂
2:20 let's just take a moment to acknowledge barcode romania
Epic
This is because the Old Church Slavonic functioned for the Romanian church as well as for the state chancelleries as an official language for many hundreds of years. It had the same status that Latin had for the Catholic Church. As the monasteries held the cultural monopoly of the Romanian space, OldChurchSlavonic continued to Slavicize the Romanian language also because the Orthodox Church saw Latin as an exponent of the Catholic Church (the enemy). Proper names, toponyms, river names, have been translated into Slavonic, remaining to this day in the official toponymy. The Cyrillic alphabet was used to write in Romanian until the middle of the 19th century, etc
This representation is heavily biased to modern countries. Example Hungary, Eastern and South Austria were slavic speaking places before the year 1000.
And partly Romania and Moldova,and germany.
@@dowmont6209 Moldova actually was completely slavic before vlachs migration.
@@alakazor9643 nope, vlach means strange/stranger/foreigner in old slavon or slavic, they gave them this name because they didn't speak a slavic language and they couldn't understand them, they already lived in modern day romania, but not around the sea
@@reikers Vlachs migration in modern Moldova was started in near X-XI centuries, before this moment it was completely slavic.
@@alakazor9643 it was more avar not slavic
I like your map style.
Agree
Looks like a reg map to me tbh
@@MargaritaMagdalena so what
Reuploaded to improve some points and fix some graphics problems
I don't know if the spead of Eastern Slavic/Russian was that fast into Karelia/North. But I might be wrong. There is little knoledge/information about that. But there's atleat one mistake that I am sure. There was atleast no Russian speaking population in the Finnish Karelia(1917-1940/1944). After the WW2 Karelia was repopulared with mostly Russian speakers due to every Karelian and Finnish people leaving the "Old (Finnish) Karelia".
I'm not sure about the situation during (1812-1917), but even then there must have very 'few' Russian speakers.
There was maybe no Russia speakers in the northern "Finnish Karelia" due to that been part of Sweden (1658-1721).
But its hard to say.
Where is Yaik cossaks? which conquere in the 16th century Nogay Horde en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural_Cossacks
and, at least to the 20 century they was majority of Ural river population
@@user-cl7pm7zm3x
Because Moxel "Cossacks" are finno-turkic people. They wouldn't even understand a single Slavic word.
@@Oleksij_Shelest Ural cosacks spoke on Finougric language? very interesting. Why they have russish names?
@@user-cl7pm7zm3x
I think you use too untruthful history book to make any statement that I would believe into it.
Slavic influence enter in Romanian territory
Italics: Damn you!
Only as a liturgical language is Eastern Orthodox worship and scholarship
@Osama Bin Laden West Slavs and East Slavs may be like that because of Russia. South Slavs... you know why. :)
@@chuckbrotton2449 The nowadays territory of Romania was inhabited by Slavic speakers since the very beginning. Just a natural melting pot culturally and genetically. Another aspect is that during the Romanian renascence in the 19-th century some thousand words of Slavic (not to say Bulgarian) origin were mechanically swapped with French, Italian or Latin ones, but that is also a normal process. Yet there are maybe not less than 10% of Slavic words in use and countless toponyms. Also the Romanian is part of the Balkan Linguistic Community with Albanian, Bulgarian and Greek. It was not a matter of bureaucracy like the Latin in the West.
@@chuckbrotton2449 Nope, there is many slavic placename in modern Romania.
@@DEIYIAN The whole of Europe was a melting pot, the area of Romania today is no different. And there was no "mechanical" removal of words. You can take a text before and after and you'll see no major differences. What actually happened is that during the "Romanian Rennaisance" alot of loanwords were introduced from the French language just like today we have alot of loanwords for IT/computer stuff from English.
"The nowadays territory of Romania was inhabited by Slavic speakers since the very beginning" - Yeah, right! The Dacians/Getae/Tharcians/Carpians, even the Celts were in present-day territory of Romania earlier than the Slavs. What is the "beginning" for you lol?
Ha: I am a Sorbian.
Hello brother from Serbia! 🥰
@@Nista357 Sorbs are from Lusatia, not from Serbia :D
Hi, greetings from polish neighbour!
@@r.t.5767 Sorbs are from Serbs that went to help Samo's empire and great Moravia against the Vatican and Teutonic genocide later. We are relatives.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavle_Juri%C5%A1i%C4%87_%C5%A0turm
@@r.t.5767 Hello brothers in PL! 🤍❤✊✊✊
Greeting SLAVIC LANGUAGEAS
🇵🇱🇷🇺🇧🇾🇷🇸🇺🇦🇭🇷🇸🇮🇧🇬🇧🇦🇲🇰
You also forgot 🇨🇿🇸🇰🇲🇪
@@TheOlgaSasha Pochoże dlja nego czechy, slowaky i ćernogorcy ne braťja. Nawernoe, oni jego ćem-to obideli :)
Cześć bracie
Russian is not slavic.
Вітаю
Make baltic languages next! And then finno-ugric languages.
Baltic possibly to be done soon
I'm so Unusual Well you got your wish
German and schweden!
@@ZordragRF Germanic languages
You can add "please".
Somebody needs to make a meme with Cyrill and Methodius saying "Slav, my son, you're a Christian now. Now it's time for you to choose between an alphabet we specially made for your language to fit it's phonetics, or you can choose an alphabet originally invented to write Etruscan and use shitloads of diacritics and digraphs. Catholic Slavs: Szczieczjaščžju
Przeszkadza Ci to? xD
ur wrong actually, cyryllic dont have proper phonetics for polish language. that's why we use ą ę ś ć ż ź
@Zoej source?
@@kryn1u little yus (ѧ) represents ę, big yus (ѫ) represents ą
@Zoej true, early cyrillic ѫ and ѧ for nasal vowels, but it never had any letters to distinguish cz from ć, sz from ś and rz/ż from ź...
Very good map, its just biased towards modern borders and demographics. For example parts of Austria and the panonian basin were slavic speaking before the year 1000 and northern albania was predominantly slavic before the ottoman conquest, judging by ottoman tax reports. And kosovo was majority slavic until pretty recently.
Wrong about Kosovo. Its Majority Albanian since hundreds of years. Whats pretty recently for you?
@@skend3489 What does "since hundreds of years ago" mean to you. Albanians started settling there in larger numbers in the 18th century after the area was left depopulated from Ottoman reprisals. The settlers were were largely catholic but were forced to adopt islam soon after. After that point the Albanian population slowly rose up while the Serb population was dwindling due to atrocities commited by the Turks before the balkan wars, Bulgarians during WW1, Italians during WW2 encouraging Albanian irredentism, a standard divide and conquer strategy. After the world wars, Tito has plans for Albania to join Yugoslavia and the key was gifting kosovo to it so he made no effort to bring back the displaced families from the second world war. After that the Yugoslav wars marked the latest exodus of serbs from both Kosovo and other parts of former Yugoslavia. I hope this answers your question
@@viktormilosevic8172 Even if it is True why should it matter now? You cant just Kick them out of their homes they didnt ask to be Born There, they didnt do anything to you but live in a land. And Kosovo had always had an Albanien Pop.
@@viktormilosevic8172 Do you see where im going at? Todays Albanians in Kosova didnt emigrate they were just Born there they know nothing else. We dont have to argue over autochtony because what mattere is that we are all humans and humans wander and borders were always shifting in history. The Balkans is a Special case because of all the big Empires that were ruling over it for thousands of years.
I can Tell you that northern albania was Never slavic. Since thousands of years only Albanians lived there
All in all really good video, jut several Slavic languages have longer history of their grammar than the video suggests (Bulgarian, Slovene, Slovak, to name a few) and the fluctuations of geographical extent of some of them have been slightly bigger than shown here.
you know that Slovaks + Moravians and Panonian Slavs had one name: Slovieni
@@881terror that's not exactly right either, it's like saying that "only" these slavic people were called slavs, which in fact were all the other ones too... since slovieni literally means "slav"... People oftentimes forget that humans back then didn't differenciate between each other that much when it came to nationality and so they went "ah yes, I'm slav" (funnily enough it also means that great moravia's true name is "kingdom of the slavs" and it's ruler was "king of slavs")
@@Rhosus They were calling themselves Slavs probably because there was not something like a sense of nationality back then and all Slavic people used to call themselves similarly. They would probably call other Slavs, well, "Slavs", so "People of the word (those who can speak [our language])" and non-Slavs "Mutes" / "Nemci" (people who cannot speak [our language])
@@Ponanoixhow do you expalin north and south Sorbs in Lužica in germany and south Sorbs in Polan in relation to Serbs from Balkan. It is known that Lutschich Serbs had their "kneževina: in 600-700 a.c. They still live in that land which is not taken into acount on this map. It would be great if the video could be corected and posted again so that there would be no more missunderstandings left.
This video starts from when slavic split off from baltic. I think its reasonable since he doesnt start the video about germanic langauges from PIE either.
1:14 That's... familiar...
polish bois
WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
@River Piscean To że to mem związany z I RP, a te tereny przypominają dawniej przez nią posiadane - śmieszne czy nieśmieszne to nieważne, to mem
China ?
Whats with the two china replies. Is that the only thing that has that shape? Its not even relevant to the video. The shape looks similar to Polish-Lithuania or just Poland in WW2. Not the china china
Video: History of the Slavs.
Slavs: *aggressively hate each other in the comments*
Samo sloga Slovene Spasava! 😊❤
Slava velikom Slovenskom rodu!
No. We love each other 🤗
To be fair the map does need some improvements.
No one:
Comments: "This is the russian/greek/ukrainian propaganda!"
@Multorum Unum Hieronymus Bosch "The Garden of Earthly Delights"
@Multorum Unum Your welcome!
Привіт from Ukraine
@Чичо Радко That means that people act like that without visible reasons.
Чё?
Old Novgorod dialect that was spoken in North Russia until 16th century is missing. It was very different from Old Russian, could be classified as its own branch(North Slavic)
Not very but different from Rostov - Suzdal dialect. And from the combiantion of these two dialects the Old Russian has developed.
@@KIRILL-fl7cp
Good joke.
@@Oleksij_Shelest
Joke is ukranian propaganda you believe my friend
@@KIRILL-fl7cp
Sad. You can't make it better.
It was not very different. It had some minor, but unique features, but basically, it was completely mutually understandable with other East Slavic dialects.
If anyone is wondering why the region of Ruthenia (modern day Belarus and Ukraine) is also striped with West Slavic Polish Language in the mid 1500's, it is because of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth union from 1550 to roughly 1780, during which POLISH was the lingua franca of the commonwealth, and all aristocrats in Belarus and Ukraine spoke Polish (because the territiories of Ruthenia were all part of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth union). Only the working-class in Belarus and Ukraine spoke Ruthenian (Ruthenian= ancestor of modern day Belarussian and Ukrainian language) at that time. That's why Belarussian and Ukrainian (despite being EAST SLAVIC in origin), have HUGE West Slavic Polish language influences too, because of the Polish loanwords during the commonwealth era which seeped into Ruthenian language at the time. that's why Belarussian and Ukrainian is much easier to understand for a Pole than Russian for example. (Russian has much less Polish vocabulary language influences than either Ukrainian or Belarussian).
4:17
Top 10 Saddest Anime Deaths
rip polabian
The only dead slavic language
i don't see anything
@@Pingijno where was spoken this language?
2:10 man, 2:10...
Rest in peace polabian slavs conquered by germans
They are not killed
@@olaful5343 but are forcibly assimilated
If it were not for Russia, most, if not all, Slavs would have been overrun by Germans and others by now.
Rest in peace east Germanic tribes
And rest in peace Dalmatian language, that slavs made it extinct.
Great information! Thank you
Very impressive and difficult task to complete! my only nitpick is that it was a bit early to see Polish dissapear in some of Silesia, in the areas north of the oder Polish was still generlaly the majority language until after the thirty years war, and as well as Opole
Yeah, for example Wrocław was still a majority speaking, border-line polish city in 1650, only later did the german-polish line crossed it. But generally speaking, the germanisation of Silesia was pretty slow during Austrian times, only after Prussia, later Germany, seized the territory In 1742, the process became more rapid
that video is wrong. Polish was spoken as a minority language throughout the whole of Ukraine (with exception of Crimea) and Belarus until extermination of Poles by Soviets in 1937-38. There were majority Polish areas near Minsk and Kiyv until that time. Lvov (Lviv) in Western Ukraine was majority Polish until Soviets expelled Poles in 1945-46. According to the Tsarist census of 1897 6% of Smolensk (Russia) population were Poles.
@@CrazyLeiFeng Yes, you are right about that too
At first time when I was in Poland and heard polish I had impression to be in middle age because of sounds of polish language. Great language
Impressive, very nice...
Muito bom. Muito legal. Bem entendido através deste mapa ver expansão do língua eslava. Parabéns.
Dont forget to give the video and author a thumbs up.. Its so deserved. This is so cool, and just so fast put things into perspective, this is honey for my brain.
Super video :).
Slovenian is actually closer to czech and slovak language than other south slavic but because of location on the map and our history under yougoslavia they count us as sout slavic language
and slovenians inhabit all of Kärnten and styria in austria.
And slovenian fist book is from 10th century and first dictionary was written in 15th century which meand that slovenian existed way beafore than what is showed in this video
It is miracle that slovenian language still exist at first slovenians or carantanians were part of samo's kingdom and after that we had our country called carantania we fought wars with avars, franks and bavarians. Eventualy we surrender in year 828 and than we beacame duchy of frankish kingdom until year 900 after that franks give carantania under the bavarians and so slovenian language was forbiden until the end of austro-hungary empire in 1918
Same thing with East Slavic languages. Belarusian and Ukrainian are more similar to Slovak/Sorbian/Czech then to Russian, because they evolved from the common language unlike Russian (from the Old Church Slavonic). But because of the location they all considered to be in one group
@@amalgama2000 Czech? What
They are mix of Polish and Russian
@@kssrnotsoviet your expertise in languages and eternities is beyond poor. But it isn't strange if one take your nickname under consideration. All soviets are hard core delusionists
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They have all in common that they were greatly influenced by germanic language. I speak Slovenian and Serbian. You can kind of tell how old is the language by how it sounds because it coresponds with duration of the opression from other non slavs. I am learning Macedonian and have many Macedonian friends, i can tell you thet there are a lot more "Slovenian" words in Macedonian language than in Serbian, even tho Macedonia is considerd to be the Old Serbia because early Serbian history happened predomenantly on that land. That coresponds with them being concured by Turks tham other parts of Serbia so it renaind more unchanged to this day because it was repressed. Slovenian was also repressed pretty early and for a long time, that is why they sound more similar even tho they are so far apart, plus foreign words they adopted. Next to be concord by otomans were Serbs and then after Serbs croats by austrhungary. You can kind of see the evolution of south slavic language from old south slavic (wersion of Slovenian and Macedonian) to Serbian (ekavica) and then to croatian dialect jekavica which is also spoken in Montenegro which was never concord by anyone (but they identify as Serbs and say they speak Serbian). I should also mention I actually originate from Montenegro from Njeguši (some people may be confused when I say I'm Serbian). The longer the sluth slavs stayed independant the more alive was the language and the faster it changed/evolved. I believe it would be possible to apply that teory to other slavic languages, it doesent necessarly mean they were opressed it cud also mean that they were just under stronger foreign influence. For example Russian kind of sounds like jekavica to me (just that they don't call it that, you know the use of the soft and hard letter). Cech, Slovach, Polish and Lužičko Serbian sound more similar to my ear, more "rough" like german.
Love to all Slavic brothers and sisters, protect and cherish our language, tradition and faith.
Glory to God in heaven, peace to earth and good will among us.
Slovene diverged from Serbo-Croatian only a century and a half ago? I find that hard to believe, they're quite different. Some of your info must be off.
Slovenian is actually closer to czech and slovak language than other south slavic but because of location on the map and our history under yougoslavia they count us as sout slavic language
And slovenian fist book is from 10th century and first dictionary was written in 15th century
It is miracle that slovenian language still exist at first slovenians or carantanians were part of samo's kingdom and after that we had our country called carantania we fought wars with avars, franks and bavarians. Eventualy we surrender in year 828 and than we beacame duchy of frankish kingdom until year 900 after that franks give carantania under the bavarians and so slovenian language was forbiden until the end of austro-hungary empire in 1918
map is wrong on so many levels.
@@masterofnordinbad8914 So why do all linguists put it as a South Slavic language? It has nothing to do with the location.
@@dragonitzgame idk probabli location and history
I know that slovak language and czech language are way closer to alovenian than serbo croatian
@@masterofnordinbad8914 maybe its like the case of English? It has more Romance vocabulary but its a Germanic language.
Anyway, the video is a bit wrong, because in Austria and Hungary Slavs lived for a long time. Perhaps Slovenian is the link between the West Slavic languages and the South Slavic languages, and that is why it resembles both.
Your videos are awesomeeee
Thank you
Interesting 👍
Great!
In the mid-9th century, Lower Pannonia was inhabited by a Slavic majority. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Pannonia_(9th_century)
That is why Hungarians and Poles are best friends.
I've read somewhere that "panonian Slavs" were living there until the year 1500.
@@mcarco118 panonian Slavs + moravians + Slovaks are in one language family = Slovieni
@@mcarco118 1800s, they were Magyarized during Magyarization, which started in 1867 - 1918.
Anton Bernolák, who wrote Slovak Slowár (1700s) was Panonian slav.
4:31 This is particularly the one I like the most
Finally! A video visually describing the history of the Slavic languages has emerged! Bring fourth our Slava!🇵🇱🇨🇿🇸🇰🇷🇺🇺🇦🇧🇾🇷🇸🇭🇷🇸🇮🇲🇪🇧🇦🇧🇬🇲🇰
No, this video do not come even close to actual describe real history of Slavic languages spreading.
bruh 😬
@@nnannbbh that's a point
@@nnannbbh Kosovo
Wtf Kosovo?
Kosovo je Srbija🇷🇸
fun fact - there is a region with pomeranian speakers in Brazil
Serbo-Croatian counted as one?
As it always should have been ❤
literally the same languages they just seperate because of politics
It is just a dialect no need for separation.
@@pavlesevaljevic4623 If serbocroatian is to be split in 2 based on dialects you would get serbocroatian and dalmatian.
Yes, and it will be that way, it will always be the same language with a few accents.
People will say its the same language but that name implies serbian dominance and thats why croats dont like it. Even thoe I can understand more of serbian than most of the island dialects of croatia. Its sad that we are not united but the time for that was 1200 years ago, we cannot be the same even thoe we are brothers.
The term Serbo-Croatian has only been around since 1824 and it was coined by a German dictionarist and folklorist Jacob Grimm, the term completely undermines the Bosnian and Montenegrin influence and development of this branch of Slavic, while many say that this language has the clearest form/accent in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Было очень интересно! Спасибо!
Beautiful history! Well done. But one thing I don't understand. Why Czech and Slovak separated in your map so late? As far as I know (and I am Czech), written Czech was first documented at the begining of 13th century and at the turn of 14th and 15th century, it gradually established as chancery language in Kingdom of Bohemia, Margriavite of Moravia nad Upper Silesian duchies. Approximately at the turn of 15th and 16th century, Czech also established as written language in Upper Hungary (i. e. what is today Slovakia), but in specific, definitely slovakized form, which means, that common spoken language in what is today Slovakia was in that time markedly different from spoken language in Bohemia and Moravia. It does mean, that also Slovak was at that time established as separate language. Not yet written, but definitely spoken. At the turn of 18th and 19th century, Czech literary language underwent extensive modernization (so called Czech national revival, which was basically reaction to preceding prolonged decline of the language), whilst Slovaks developed roughly at the same time genuine Slovak literary language (instead of slovakized Czech). But it definitelly doesn't mean that before 19th century were no separate Czech and Slovak languages. Please, don't take it as criticism. Your histories are awsome and I greatly admire you. It was just my minor factual note.
I agree. Maybe I'm not an expert in Slovak history, but it's obvious that Slovak is significantly closer to Ukrainian and Serbo-Croatian languages and is quite understandable to speakers of them. From genetic point of view Slovaks are not so hard R1a-M458-dominated as Czechs, which makes them somewhat closer to R1a-Z280-CTS-dominated South-West and East Slavs. And simultaneously unlike Czechs and Poles they have quite much (16%) I2a, which is close to Slovene (22%) and Ukrainian (20.5%) levels, despite it's still much less than Serbo-Croates have (31-54%), however last exaggerated value may be explained via Founder effect work. So in total it's likely that Slovak from beginning was a mix of West Slavic (Czech) and Carpathian (Ukrainian, Serbo-Croatian, Slovene) dialects.
@@rdtgr8 I think that I know the reason why you see slovak language as some kind of mix of western and carpathian slavic language. In my humble opinion it's because in 7-9th century in todays west and middle Slovakia was slavic tribe of Nitravians (ancestors of Slovaks) and on the east there were White Croats. One part of them later moved on Balkan and second stayed and most likely were assimilated. So mix of western Nitravians and eastern White Croats could caused that nowadays slovak language can be understandable to many other Slavic nations.
I'm guessing the "inaccuracies" are based on different quantity and quality of surviving historical records - things may suddenly appear different before and after gaps in the data instead of blurring through transition.
Language drift and genetic drift are both constant yet gradual ... until contact with an outside population quickly imposes dramatic changes.
th-cam.com/video/8BpixH088xg/w-d-xo.html
According to modern linguistics Czech and Slovak are the same language even today
Parabéns , um excelente trabalho , principalmente na tentativa de sincronização, sou brasileiro de origem eslava (polonesa), lendo os comentários você pode perceber que não consegue agradar a "gregos e troianos" , fique tranquilo foi um ótimo trabalho (nesse exercício temos que levar em conta o nacionalismo e o antagonismo étnico, muita besteira se produz para defender as ideias megalomaníacas ), do ponto de vista cientifico os linguistas e geneticistas estão contribuindo para preencher as lacunas dos arqueólogos, antropólogos e historiadores !
eu sou decendente de venezianos, valeu por ajudar a defender veneza contra os turcos 😎👍
@@MarcosVinicius-dh6fk Are you joking? in reality it is the Republic of the Serenissima that prevented the Ottomans from invading part of Montenegro, part of Croatia and part of Slovenia.
keep in mind that the Venetians had already colonized some Turkish and Greek territories, up to Malta. Just to be clearer .... 😉
Hello Brazilian of polish descent. I live in Poland and am of polish descent, similarly
The video is grossly inaccurate, Slavic speakers of the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th centuries should've been the vast majority in all of Southeastern Europe and mainland Greece, barring some isolated footholds of Latinitate and Koine Greek, like Monemvasia, Adrianople, Thessaloniki, and some cities on the Eastern Adriatic coast.
Yeah Byzantine didn't even control that regions. Even Thessaloniki (Solun) had bunch of Slavs there
The author of the video was born in the south of Bulgaria. This explains all the inaccuracies that concern you.
Very useful. Thank you. I always wondered how s Country so close to Italy as Slovenia has a so different lenguauge from neolatin
Thank you
One correction old Church Slavonic was the official language (old Bulgarian) of the Bulgarian Tsardom.
This is the map of belarussian language in 1903 : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yefim_Karsky#/media/File%3ABelarusians_1903.jpg
В России любят белорусский язык и Беларусь, и её народ. Все перемещены, поэтому о чётких границах говорить трудно. Не думаю, что в Смоленске как то по другому поймут белорусский язык, чем в других регионах России.
This is not the belarussian map language. This is the the map of dialects. They just spoke russian with different dialect.
Ruthenian?
Wow, that must've taken a lot of time to compile for sure. Talking about painstaking work.
However, the Proto-Slavic area shown in the first minute of the video was in vast majority Baltic or Proto-Baltic.
On the other hand a huge chunk of the actual Proto-Slavic area has been left blank where it should've been marked Proto-Slavic: that area was approximately the Odra and Wisła basins (+ some middle reaches of the Łaba), naturally restricted by the sea in the north and various mountain ranges in the south. Bordering (Proto-)Baltic in the north-east and east, Thracian in the south-east, Celtic to the south-west and Germanic in the west (also not forgetting the "das drittes Volk" there who were Proto-Balto-Slavic kin of some kind).
There is no certainty among historians about the extent of the Slavic languages before 400 CE. Pannonia before the invasion of the Magyars was also Slavic-speaking, although the Avars ruled there.
Slavs were migrating to Byzantine territory trough Avar territory
That was only the case for the Pannonian land East of the Danube. Slavs were a significant minority in the rest of Pannonia.
@@VuleProductions invading but yeah
@@basedchad6035 Migration is not the same as invation
@@dragonitzgame you dont think there were people before? You think they were happy their land got taken?
Bruv dont be so naive. Its been a while. No reason to lie about that history
There is also a village on Sjælland (Denmark) called Kramnitse (or Kramnitze), wich was initially settled by slavs.
Slavs never reached Denmark at all and there's no evidence to proof it, the name kramnitise (Kramnitize) may not actually be of wendish origin but if its of slavic origin then it's proberly named because of Germans who were occupying and influencing some of Denmark with village names since Germany has lots of slavic names who then adapted it as their own. Slavs only reached to schielwig near anglia which is northern Germany (close to border of Denmark)
@@jml732The slavs only traded with the Vikings during those ages but they NEVER ever settled in coastal areas of Denmark and Norway since they were ongoing conflicts between them and they never wanted wars between each other so they did only trade. Those are fully homogenous Germanic nations.
@@jml732Trade doesn’t also always mean intermingling with each other but by that logic it means eastern Slavs have Turkic and Mongolian ancestry because they raided them and did mass trade.
@@michaelcalle2981 Ukrainians and Southern Slavs sure have turkish influence, they are darker than other slavs. And tatars sure had common progeny with eastern slavs, because there are populations of tatars who have blue eyes, blonde hair and european eye shape, especially in Kazan city
Good job! The pre-1944 eastern border of Finland is incorrect though, and Hungarian was the prevailing language in the south of modern Slovakia until WWII too
and where is Panonian Slavs and principality of Balaton?
He shows it as mixed
@@juniorcrusher2245 but they was not mixed. They was Slavic
South Slovakia, north Hungary and Pannonia was a slavic speaking until Magyarization in 1867 - 1918.
I've noticed that this has the latest starting date compared to other videos of Indo-European brances (unless I missed one with a later date). Does this mean that Slavic is the youngest Indo-European branch?
Previously, it was part of the Balto-Slavic group
Make a video on Indo-Aryan languages next plz
I'll try to make it in the future
There’s already bunch of videos about that.I think he should make exotic videos that are about the Asia and Africa.
Russian : BRAT HINDI : BARAT
Top notch! Спасибо very much! D.A., J.D., (atty, writer, Russian student) NYC
Video is plenty of errors.
I thought it'd be started from Proto-Balto-Slavic
yeah why he dont give that years before 50 A.D.?
It all started from russia and Ukraine
@@grandetristesse3370 yeah from Ural to Caucasus and Dnieper river.
interesing!
How prevalant is old church Slavonic nowadays?
3:42 it is interesting that Liutprad of Cremona writes that in the northern parts of Europe there live a people who in appearance are called Ρουσιος (Rusios / Reds), and in their place of residence they are called normans (northerners), but normans are Scandinavians, not Slavic.
It is not a new fact. Here, in Ukraine, we all learnt even at school that Rus or Ruth were the Normannic people. The Byzantian chronicles of 10-11 centuris call more than 50 names of "folk of Rus" from Kiev (Koenugard), and they all were Scandinavians...Actually, Kievan Rus was a polyethnic medieval state ruled by Normanns and their main dynasty of Rurikids till the Mongolian invasion to Kievan Rus.
@@TheOlgaSasha As I remember, Rurikids was the main dynasty till the 16 century and then tzars became to Romanovs.
@@naelerasmans322 the Romanovs ruled until the 18th century. then the German dynasty ruled, although they called themselves novels.
When was maded DNA test on norwegian and Icelandic people there was founded high percentage of east european DNA R1A around 20-30%. And did you see funeral speech of Swedish king Charles XI? Thats mixture of Polish and Russian not Swedish
@@881terror at that time there were Russian speaking areas ruled by Sweden east of the Baltic sea (Neva estuary, Yam-Koporye, Karelia etc). And the speech was translated to Russian using Latin alphabet for Russian speaking subjects of the crown. It was also translated to Finnish and other languages.
I think knowing about that document and not knowing that swedes actually ruled over some Russians at that time is kind of cringeworthy.
Очень интересное видео, спасибо!
Thank you
The history of the Slavs before their baptism began is a mystery, shrouded in darkness, and the history of the emergence of the Slavic language and its division into Polish, Russian, Ukrainian, Czech and others is generally unknown.The author you guess on the coffee grounds.
We have a clear Indian influence in some words and ornaments, yet the mythology is similar to Scandi.
Do one on austronesian
If the proto-slavs knew how their offsprings would fight and hate each other would they decide to split up?
Nope
Yes
There wasn't a choice, areas back then were much more isolated from each other without modern technology
Cool
Thank you
I wonder if you can do Arabic varieties
Unfortunately, this map is also wrong. There are no traces of Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija before the 17th century. On this map it is shown as if there were no Serbs there at all
Only we Serbs and our enemies Croats keep common language today until 2 thousand years!
Why enemy?
Yeah, everything is like in the respectable family: it's a family and everyone hates each other, lol.
@loder Man Yes and no. It’s definitely not only about religion even if it is the defining factor
@@bletrick3352 Oh yes bolive me it's only because of religion.
@@CapitanScimitar555 He probably is a fake Serb or chetnik from Yugoslav wars
Какими же стойкими типами были наши пращуры. Поклон им до земли за дела их вековые
Not too bad - considering the difficulty of the topic.
I find it unlikely that slovenian is less than 200 years old. Can anyone give me the details?
please do about the history of the Turkic language! Thank you!
I'll try to make it soon
@@CostasMelas excellent😊👍
1:26 Austria was all slavic
No, it's Hungary.
Austria as Regio Noricum just like Helvetica was Celtic.
@@aniinnrchoque1861 Sorry, the Celts were already Latinized and absent from Inner Austria by this date.
@@digdug1431 I mean yeah in the early 7th century there were at most only gallo-romance remnants left as the Slavs pushed in around that time
Depends in which time but approx. in 7th century, the most western Slavic settlements were roughly on the line Linz - Lienz.
Always thought that there were slavic languages in balcans before they had gone towards north.
ok but question remains - where did the slavs come from?
"Let foreigners, out of ignorance or negligence, take little care of them, but it is unforgivable for us to forget the Bulgarians from whose hands we received baptism, who have taught us to write, to read, in whose vernacular is our worship, in whose language for the most part we wrote almost to the time of Lomonosov, whose cradle is connected by inseparable knots with the cradle of the Russian people and so on. "
Yuri Venelin on Bulgarian history in 1829
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In his article Protection of the Old Bulgarian Language (1990)
Prof. Dr. Otto Kronsteiner from Austria writes:
“The Old Bulgarian language has become the cultural language of all Orthodox Slavs. It was the first state literary language in Medieval Europe long before the emergence of European literary languages - German, French, Italian, English, Russian "and Serbian inclusive, of course!
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"When Greek Christianity was officially accepted in Russia at the end of the 10th century, its distributors in Russia were mainly Bulgarian clergy. In this way, the Bulgarian language became the basis of the Russian Church and Russian literary language. "
M. Fassmer, quoted by M. Popov, The Bulgarian People between the European Races and Peoples, Sofia, Court Printing House, 1938;
“The influence of the Bulgarian language was felt extremely strongly by the Russians and Serbs until the 18th century, this influence weakened only in the 19th century, when vernacular elements entered the literature of these two peoples and replaced the influence of the old church influences. These influences were especially strong because the Russian Church Slavonic language also shows too much Bulgarian, and partly directly Eastern Bulgarian elements.
М. Фасмер, Die Bulgarische Literatur im Zeitalter des Zaren Simeon und ihre Bedeutung für die Orhodoxe Slawenwelt, Berlin, 1929
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"The orthography of our (ie Russian, b.a.) manuscripts from the middle of the XV century is a reflection of the orthography of the South Slavic (more precisely of the Middle Bulgarian) manuscripts. It is clear that between the middle of the XIV and the middle of the XV century, the Russian script came under the very strong influence of the South Slavic script and ultimately submitted to this influence. "
Alexey Sobolevsky
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"Bulgaria in the 15th century as a whole is this huge center through which the Byzantine influence in Serbia and Russia passes, a center through which this influence gets its Slavic color, strengthened in the numerous translations, which reflect the written reform of Patriarch Euthymius."
Dmitry Likhachev
What does that mena ? That Russians used the Kyrilic alphabet after Bulgarians ?
@@misterpikes7600 borrowed the alphabet as well as Christianity from Bulgarians
@@crimsonfarts6856 Since both came to you from the Romans same could be said about you . No point taking pride from something you didnt create and someone also uses
@@misterpikes7600 Our alphabet was invented by greeco-born bulgarians and we got our religion from the Byzantiums
@@crimsonfarts6856 did i say something wrong ? dont think so
Why did u upload again?
There were some issues I noticed after uploading and I should to fix them.
@@CostasMelas k then. Good video as always :)
Страхотно
Very nice map! As others mentioned though, slavic identity was much more developed before 1000AD. T😂here are first scripts in ancient Slovene in latin alphabet around 1100 latest in the region of Carinthia/Carniola , the Freising Manuscripts. Differentiation of southwest slavic occured much earlier than depicted. Ancient Slovene was present after Magyar migration between the early westslavic continuum.
Thank you
интересно, но был упущен один момент в истории восточно-славянской ветви. речь о древненовгородском и древнепсковском диалектах. они существовали примерно до века 15го и впоследствии оказали влияние того, каким впоследствии стал русский язык. впрочем, в видео это и показывается, как russian, соседствующий с ruthenian, в нашей науке известном как западнорусский. такие-то нюансы, думаю в истории всех славянских языков что-то такое найдётся
Could you sinhronize all your video on one map?
И без красных
Why does polish influence over Ruthenian suddenly end before 1700? Wasn't the PLC still around then?
I guess its because cossacks rebelled so polacks had to soften their grip on them
@@bloodkelp PLC was too decentralised to impose languange on others.
Pomerenian today is actually kashebian anyway nice video and job well done my friend.
kaszëbskô mòwa
Turkic people: conquering ancient Indo-European (Scythian lands)
Slavs: *And i took this personally*
They came to modern day Austria lel
seeing the comments of this video kinda weird
-Latin language speakers are friendly to each other
-German-speaking speakers are friendly to each other
-Slavic language speakers seem hostile to each other
@Dragan L This video doesn’t even consider Germanic or Romance speaking people, it doesn’t depict them neither in an hostile or a friendly way, I dunno why you’re so triggered and calling conspiracy on a video about Slavic languages because they didn’t show the spreading of languages that aren’t part of the family.
It's taken centuries of hard work by Latin-speakers and Germanic speakers to get it that way.
Bulgarian is spoken since 600s at least. Also it was spoken Vlahia and Moldova at least unitl 1800.
Hm, it means that Ukrainian and Russian are not the same, right? Yeah, they were East - Slavic but according to the map Russian appeared earlier and not from Ruthenian as Ukrainian language. Correct me if I'm wrong.
At a time when nations did not yet exist, the proto-Ukrainian and proto-Russian peoples were separated by a natural barrier - a large forest with swamps, so due to poor communication, their languages were created separately.
What language appeared earlier is a silly question. Languages change over time and Russian that appears on this map in 1500s wasn't the same as it is today.
All modern East Slavic languages are equally related to East Slavic language.
Ukrainian / Russian / Belorussian split has to do with political divisions of Russia, Poland and Lithuania. After the Mongol invasion many Russian principalities in the south and west became part of the Grand duchy of Lithuania (split into Russian and Ruthenian). Galicia (modern western Ukraine) became part of Poland. Later Lithuania entered a personal union with Poland and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was born. Within that commonwealth modern Ukrainian territories of Lithuania were passed to the Kingdom of Poland (split of Ruthenian into Ukrainian and Belorussian).
All these changes are very gradual and complicated however and the map doesn't really reflect it. It's very basic / schematic. The people speaking the Ruthenian language would probably just tell you that they are speaking Russian. And people speaking East Slavic would tell you they're speaking Slavic or Russian. All these would be different from modern Russian of course. The names on the map are just historiographic terms.
@@sert87 Okay thanks for your essay but I didn't ask what language appeared earlier.
Ruthenia-c'est la Russie en langue Latine !!!!!!
@@user-ok9dc5qt8d Да, ты прав, что Рутенией звали Русь, но тут имелось ввиду русинский язык (Ruthenian language).
Эх, жаль, что мы не узнаем, на каком языке говорили простые люди в Киевской Руси, ведь писали на церковном, который является искусственным и не был похож на разговорный.
You can clearly see that they wont call it bulgarian its south esat slavic, south slavic, old curch slavonic or something.
And now see the hate in my coments ;¬)
Всички са Български Old church slavonic bulgarian
@@AlexAhmedovnope
Don't look at comments. You were warned.
Wrong maps. Where are Slavic languages in Carpathian bassin? They were there up to XIX century.
R.I.P Polabians (and Panonian Slavs, Dacian Slavs, Greek Slavs and Carantanians) lost slavic cousins [*]
Carantanians are still alive, they call themselfs Slovenes
@@kosa9662 But the Slovenian range now is smaller than it was earlier.
Great work - small correction: Pomeranian should be noted as Kashubian. Source: a Kashubian.
Thank you
It's a dialect
@@juniorcrusher2245 your point is?
@@SornGeorge the videos talking about languages. Kashubian is not a language
@@juniorcrusher2245 so you take issue with Pomeranian being depicted in the video or with me noting this is Kashubian? Also, what makes you feel you need to let the world know about your opinions? Are you a linguist or a Kashubian?
Novo Rusia never spoke ukranian, don't lie
Loud and wrong
Serbian used to be some kind of Russo-Bulgarian-sounding language. It went extinct in the 19th century and was replaced by Bosnian, because most Serbs migrated into the Bosnian Eyalet which covered Bosnia, Herzegovina, parts of Montenegro, Slavonia and Dalmatia, and the lingua franca there was Bosnian. Vuk Karadzic and Ilija Garasanin are responsible for pushing for the abandonment of Serbian and the replacement. The Serbian Orthodox church was vehemently against their reforms, and the Serbian government was too up until about 4 years after Vuk's death.
Whereas the Dalmatians spoke Chakavian, and the Croats spoke Kajkavian (which is related to Slovenian). In the 12th-16th century Chakavian was being actively promoted by Croat and Dalmatian writers as the language they should all speak. Then starting in the 16th century, Dalmatian writers would start to promote Shtokavian, which Dubrovnik's literati had chosen to adopt hundreds of years earlier from Bosnia in an attempt to save their language from Latinization. Migration of Bosnian Catholics into Slavonia and Bosniaks into areas like Lika, helped popularize Shtokavian and make it administrative in those areas under Bosnian pashas. Serb serfs would be brought to those areas to cultivate the land to feed the Ottoman armies, and would adopt Shtokavian there.
Later Ljudevit Gaj would push for the use of Bosnian (Shtokavian & Shchakavian) like Vuk Karadzic did, and that's when for example areas like Zagreb replaced Kajkavian with Shtokavian completely.
And this is why they all sound similar today. But if you read the documents from the 12th-13th century of all 3 countries, they sound very different.
01:14 Atilla clearly helped the spread.
Avars
it seem like attila was Slavic or official historician lie and Slavic had way bigger teritory
At that point Attila was dead for like a century
@@danilapolesciuk4316 means nothing
Seeing the sorbs slowly disappear 😔
My smy a hišće tu budźemy 💖🔵🔴⚪💖
@@Slawny_luziski_Wojak I am Sorbian myself
@@Slawny_luziski_Wojak I support Lusatian Independence and the slavicization of the German race. Germans are already 1/3 slavic.
@@user-kc5sv7du4p wtf nazi
The split of south-west slavic languages into the ancestors of Slovene and Serbo-Croatian was around year 800 ad. And Austria was populated by Slavic people during this time too, before it was colonized by the Bavarians.
It's a neat looking video, but I am willing to bet that it got a lot of other things wrong in the regions with which I am less familiar. Ultimately, it might prove useful to some Americans. But for everyone else, it is just a waste of 5 minutes.
But we have to thank him as he is not Slav. At least he tried to show their scholars opinion. While our Slavic "scientists" (I do not talk about all of them) didn't any analogic video for Americans and Western Europeans...
no, there was no split.
@@TheOlgaSasha Slavic official scientists (I do not talk about all of them) just copy and paste everything about history from german guy Friedrich Maurer who making german propaganda in 1942. That why our history is lie. Germans never write true about Slavic people and in 1942 = no chance.
The term Serbo-Croatian has only been around 1824 and it was termed by a German dictionarist and folklorist Jacob Grimm, imagine how different it would have sounded 1000 years prior.. probably almost unintelligibly different.. Therefore your recommendation is nonsensical and as a Bosnian pisses me off. not only does the term completely undermine the Bosnian and Montenegrin influence and development of this branch of Slavic, you want to further erase another 800 years of our connection with our language.. BKS or BKMS is a much fairer term to define this branch of the Slavic language..
Yeah, video has plenty of errors.
Originally, they Slavs were forming one group since 6. and 7. century with no dialectal differences.
Split between West and South Slavs was around 800 AD. Czech and Slovak were originally developing in South Slavic group with Karyntian/Slovenian/Serbo-Croatian. The reason for Czech/Slovak/Serbo-Croatian unity was probably a series of common countries (Samo's country, Great Moravia).
Bavarian and Frankish efforts to take over today Austria (Austria east of today Salzburg) and establishment of Margraviate of Austria, as well as arrival of Magyars around year 900 caused separation Czechs/Slovaks with the rest of South Slavs.
After separation of South Slavic group by Magyars, Czech/Slovak and Lechitic group created a more uniform group due to interaction.
what are your sources for all these videos? they’re good but how can we know this is all true?
No one can know it for sure. :)
@@russianwithrussian History is written by winners. Today winners are anglosaxons but not for long chinenes incoming
Pomeranian language should be renamed into Kashubian somewhere around late XIX century (when other remaining dialect called Slovincian was displaced by German through cultural assimilation). Nobody in Poland uses "pomeranian language" term in everyday speak, apart from linguists and historians.
Wasn't Slovincian dialect also part of Kashubian language? Actually he could name it Kashubian from the very begining.
Shocking to see Germany speaking Slavic languages before 1000
Slavic Macedonian came into existence only in 1944. It is Bulgarian language as a base written on a Serbian typewriter with selective replacement of words, letters, imported elements just to make it sound distinct from Bulgarian.
Alexander of Macedon: i am joke to you?
@@881terror Alexander is greek
@@881terror Do not mistake the ancient Macedonian language (which was a close relative of ancient Greek and dissapeared slowly together with hellenisation of original Macedonians) with the modern, Slavic Macedonian language. They have absolutely nothing in common beside the name, even the teritorries they were spoken are mainly different. -_-
Slavs as fast as Rome falls: LET'S DO THIS
Most of kazahstan, all of dagestan, chechnya, all of tatarstan are speaking russian. A lot of people in Georgia, Armenia, all of Belarus. Around 70% of ukraine until 2022 spoke russian too. This map is more like about nations, than languages, but for some reason its called 'languages map'
This is about native speakers, not diaspora. Then the map would be completely different. Nobody speaks Russian at home in Dagestan, while for Ukraine it would be around 40% (incl. southern and eastern regions), if these regions aren't included, around 15%. But you can obviously see the that the Russian language is in southern and eastern Ukraine on the map, so where's the problem?
@@dav2ry7>15% in all of ukraine excluding south and east
i think that even after 2022 this is barely the case. Before it anything eastern than Zhytomir was 80% russian.
>what is the problem
Belarus, kazakhstan, tatarstan, are not a 'diaspora', but 100% native speakers. Excl. south kazakhstan. So, they should be painted as full russian along with ukraine up to rovno-zhytomir line until 2022.
@@levershredder Funny, because I live near Vinnytsia, also close to Zhytomyr. 😄 I can't hear any Russian here, only if you go to the city of Vinnytsia, you can hear some Russian, but it's usually mixed with Ukrainian + there are many people from Eastern Ukraine. I also have family in the Cherkasy region, I couldn't hear any Russian there. But obviously, when I was in Kharkiv, everyone spoke Russian there. So southeastern Ukraine definitely speaks Russian, but the rest of Ukraine, not really. I'd say Hungarian or Romanian are more common, but where did you find such data? 🤔
@@dav2ry7Kiev spoke mostly Russian till 2022. )
@@ivydark9741 Kyiv yes, but not the region.
Надо было показать с разделения балтослаянских языков
Ну тогда уж Славяно-балто-германской общности.
You have Austronesian Language history???
Good to see the real picture of today Slavic languages, especially the Balkan Slavic languages that include Serbo-Croatian, Macedonian(slavic), Bulgarian and Slovenian, although Slovenian is closer to the western slavic family of languages.
Very well done. It's interesting that Crimea and southern Ukraine were not Slavic until 1770 therish. What were they before? Turkic I am guessing? Or something else?
Yeah, Crimea was Turkic
The southern Ukraine was almost deserted, it was called Dikoe Pole (Wild Field)
Okay cool
Did you heard something about Crimean Goths?
They spoke Crimean Tatar, a Turkic language.