DeWalt High Torque on the Dyno vs Flex & Milwaukee: DCF899
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Link to the Dewalt: amzn.to/3nGd8Ln The DCF899 is a long ignored and much requested impact wrench on this channel, so we see how it stacks up against the newest high torque from Flex FX1471-1C and Milwaukee M18 2767-20 because science. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I'm a park ranger, I mostly talk history, there is nothing I do that is likely to ever require an impact wrench, yet I find these videos absolutely fascinating.
You made my day
Yes Sir, I totally agree with you. I love this Awesome channel and these kinds of videos. I learn so very much. 😎
@@FAMOUSSLICKRICK 9
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Throw one in your truck, next time you come across someone in the park with a flat tyre they'll think you're a God amongst men
I've had my dcf899 for over 3 years, I use it everyday at my work as a trash truck mechanic. It's still kicking, it's all beat up but has never let me down
I honestly didn't know there were mechanics dedicated entirely to trash trucks.
@@elijahwatson8119 there's mechanic's dedicated to everything. Trash trucks, forklifts, tractor trailers, etc.
@@elijahwatson8119 Truck work has lots of fleets. A lot of fleets have in-house wrench pullers
'Murica!*
*with global materials
Sadly, I lost mine Thursday. Truck got towed in. I went out and used my impact to put the driveshaft back in. I put in the passenger side floorboard and drove into the shop to replace the busted coolant hose. Last night, I noticed it missing from my toolbox and it took me a minute before I realized where I left it. I'll call their home shop monday and see if I can get it back. If not, guess I finally have an excuse to buy the Milwaukee
Thank you for testing the DCF899, had mine since 2016 (Type 1), nice to see it still stacks up against the modern competition. :)
The Milwaukee is anything but modern. Think it was released in 2017 and it’s basically been the king since
Some people really get butt hurt over brands 😂🤣😂
@@johnargumaniz9179 More modern than the DeWalt. DCF899 2015, 2767-20 2017, FX1471-1C 2021.
I've heard Dewalt will be releasing an 899 replacement next year, but we'll see how much truth is in that. They did awesome at the 901 this year even beating the Milwaukee, so they obviously have the Engineers and knowledge to put out awesome tools.
@@CaseySexton I hope so, I wouldn't mind seeing an updated replacement, maybe one that can take full advantage of Flexvolt batteries or just adding Power Detect? I hope they also bring out some more automotive focused tools like a cordless ratchet that's not Mac Tools branded. ;)
I am definitely in for fake knockoff battery comparisons....☝️
I want that as well please
why? most of them don't even survive a single drop!
Yes, because a 12ah m18 may come with a divorce 🤣
Battery prices for this type equipment is a fucking ripoff. There's no way in hell they are worth their high ass cost. I'm betting there isn't $10 max in production
@@timbow50 I think about $15 since they use good branded cells but obviously they wouldn’t pay retail for them and the housing isn’t expensive either. They do mark up batteries really high.
This Dewalt high torque is the impact that really introduced me to battery impacts about 5 years ago. Now i have a mixture of Dewalt, Makita, and Milwaukee and the air tools are not touched. I keep wanting to upgrade to the Milwaukee high torque but the Dewalt just keeps going strong.
If you're a mobile mechanic I don't see why you would upgrade until your old one dies.
My Dewalt is 3 years stronger, and if that 5ah battery doesn't get the job done, slap on a flexvolt battery and there she goes!
Yah I love my dewalt, it keeps going strong when my co- workers Milwaukees spend half their time getting rebuilt
@@randallsensenig1075 I find that funny I use my milwaukee every single day have had it since it came out never had to rebuild it. Had it over 4 years.
100K subs by the end of May, this channel just keeps churning out more quality content and it's going to pay off very soon!
I've had the Dewalt for years and have broken more seized bolts with it than I would like to admit. That things a beast.
I absolutely love this channel. Honestly, the professional way you conduct the tests and your chill, even keel, level headed tone and objective mindset make it an absolute joy to watch. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
Pretty awesome content! You guys are hitting the mark without any of the added BS that accompanies a lot of channels that test. Not only that, you make the testing as apples to apples as possible, pointing out the differences along the way.
Keep on keeping on!
I have had this Dewalt for almost 3 years now and have loved it. I work on dump trucks, pickups, tractors, and heavy machinery so it gets used fairly often. Battery lasts pretty good too. I got a 3/8 atomic Dewalt this past Christmas and I have to stop myself from using it sometimes haha its so nice. Anyway, I know Milwaukee is better in most cases and I do like their slimmer and more compact batteries and the tool designs that come along with that, but I have a personal reason for sticking with Dewalt. I bought my dad a drill/impact set years ago, and just a few weeks later our house burned down. Everyone was safe, not going into much detail on that, but as with everything else in the house I was sure that the tools were a loss. A week after the fire, I found the tools. Still in the (open) bag, covered in ash and snow as it was the middle of January. Pulled both tools out and batteries were still completely charged. Still in use over 4 years later and haven't skipped a beat. I'll go Dewalt all day. If they won't take it off, I'll hook up the old 3/4 IR and let it eat.
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
I’m so happy for this channel. I really appreciate you guys. I owned a m18 high torque for about a year, and although in only a year, it is acting up, I’m sending it in for a new one thanks to warranty. I did however buy a 6.0 high output and MAN am I glad I did. MASSIVE power difference and definitely a purchase that you influenced (in a good way) thank you all so much :)
We appreciate you too!
I love my Milwaukee high torque impact, it’s a beast! Only found one rusted fastener on a lawnmower blade that wouldn’t budge it until the torches came out.
I love this channel.
The only thing I have to suggest is setting up a break away test.
Tighten a nut to the advertised or claimed torque rating and see if the impact can break it away.
Also test other competitors on others advertised torque specs.
It would add some content and also show us the real world capability in a controlled environment.
Because I have a 3/8s compact
3/8s 1/2 mid torque
1/2 and 3/4 inch high torque
The mid torques won’t break away a bolt after tightening it with the high torque for like literally 2 seconds
Even my mid torques struggle to break away bolts I put on with them on level 3 on level 2 after only being hammered on for maybe 2 seconds.
I bought that Milwaukee and when I did I had no idea it was so powerful. I have loved it. My air impact is now a paper weight.
Great vid, thanks! This only confirms why my purchase of the Milwaukee is a very good investment. Add One Key to the mix (to customise the settings), and you have a clear justification for spending the dollars on the big M
I love the torque curve graphs. Great comparison
I bought the Model 899 to use at work in early 2020. Love this gun. It does everything I need and very well made. Would not buy any other gun. This is all your ever going to need folks. This thing is a beast.😊
These tests are great, but one thing that is rarely ever covered in these head-2-head comparisons is duty cycle. There are a lot of inexpensive impacts on the market that may or may not out-torque a 'team yellow' or 'team red' product...but I what I want to know is which one will smoke itself into flaming oblivion the fastest under the same conditions, same load and same continuous duty cycle. Personally I'd be willing to give up some torque for a tool that has things like robust electronics and proper heat sinks in the right places....and I have a feeling if you go cheap with a price product like the Flex you'll find yourself shopping for a new one in short order.
Dewalt just released tma newn1/2 called the Dcf900 that destroys every other 1/2 ever made. It's the most powerful 1/2 impact out there period.
A 6 yr old gen 1 , dewalt 899 keeping up with brand new tools is a testament to dewalt making great quality tools in the USA
Ended up with the dcf899 and it’s great for what I need to do which is occasionally working on my car
Coming back to watch this now makes that new mid torque from Dewalt look even more impressive
LISTEN,,, WE WERE ACTUALLY,,, SUGGIEING FOR THIS NEXT VIDEO IT'S A GOOD THING IT CAME WHEN IT DID. YOU GUYS ARE KILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the great details..
Thanks guy.
You can also look at it like this, the DeWalt is 6 years old and only 18v Vs Flex is 2021 & 24v.
Yes. But it is insightful just how much more tool coverage the M18 system has. They're iterating faster, releasing new tools more often, etc. Dewalt still doesn't have a cordless ratchet (M12, I know) for example. If I was to do it over again I'd go with Milwaukee instead of my Dewalt.
And that at 24V, the FLEX is barely eeking out a win over DeWalt, and not even close to Milwaukee.
Metabo HPT makes a few impact wrenches. An 18v 1/2", a 36v 1/2", and a 36v 3/4" model. A unique feature is the 36v tools can be run by an ac/dc adapter. I have the low torque 18v 1/2 which claims "225 ft-lbs of turning torque, 0-3,600 BPM and up to 2,700 RPM".
I would love to see the Makita impact wrenches, both the 18v and the new 40v
WOW, there's a new 40v
Yes please me too
I would like see how the makita full size impact compares as well. @torquetestchannel I would send you mine but its a 3/4 anvil.
@@2ttools35 What's wrong with 3/4"?
They’ll probably be smoked by the Milwaukee. Just saying...
Great video, always happy to see you’ve posted another. Wore out a DCF889 within 6 months. It doesn’t like being used for high torque IMO, you can hear in the 15 BCS the beginning of the death rattle, sounds like skipping gear teeth, keep using it like that and the motor dies a smokey hot one.
I’m impressed by Milwaukee no end, but it’s pricey in the UK. Makita is my choice, home and work, and at least they put up with the abuse.
Bought me a Dewalt DCF899 about a year ago from Home Depot it was on sale for $199. Came 4ah battery and charger. A Dewalt Rep also gave me a free 4ah battery. What a deal.
Smokin deal!
In the UK we have a brand called Kielder. They are tools made by mechanics, for mechanics. (rally team engineers actually) before Milwaukee gen 2 mid torque was released they claimed to have market leading power to size / weight impact wrench. I have owned them for years now. Left out in rain for 2 days by mistake but still smacks my nuts hard! Also great value for money much cheaper than most. Basic with no LED ect. But very good. I would like.to send you mine but I'm all the way in England and use it all the time. Love your channel man. Keep it up. Thanks.
Purchased this during the holidays for $199 kit with 4. Plenty of power for oil changes 😅.
Robert is a real one! Solid dude to send that in to test!
Great video bro it is pleasant to see my m18 beast can win this competition, now we need to see Ingersoll Rand high torque in this competition I am almost convinced that it wil top off Milwaukee and other brands.
@@Beardman56 well I guess you R wrong just check out this video, I guess Milwaukee skipped Ingersoll Rand impact wrench?
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Excellent comparison.
I just picked up the DeWalt DCF899 yesterday for my father as an Xmas gift this year. Our local Runnings has a deal going on until the end of December for DeWalt tools so I got the M1 kit with the 4 Ah battery for $248 with tax. The sale also included a set of DeWalt branded 1/2" deep well impact sockets as a free add-on. He currently has a smaller compact 3/8" DeWalt unit so I figured this big one would help him out with tougher bolts on his fuel trucks. Since the sockets are $40 on their own I pretty much paid $208 for the gun kit. :)
Would love to see the makita xwt08z 1/2 on here in the future. Love this channel!
Good test! Kudos to mentioning if the tool beats your arm to death--always love the beastly torque of a tool until my wrist/forearm/fingers start to lose it. Have my beast mode tools but it is nice to have a lower torque/power option for doing repetative stuff for hours--latest example was driving thousands of screws for hours as I installed metal roofing on the house. Went with the Makita impact driver last year specifically for the two "T" modes and it don't beat you to death. That wee little impact is perfect for lower power, repetitive work so a keeper. For lugnuts? Get an impact wrench! Alas, now that I have four Makita batteries laying around, the impact wrench better fly through the air and mix/bring me drinks before I ever add even more batteries/chargers! What I gather is, if you have to have max power even with it beating you up. Milwaukee for the win. If you tend to do constant use and the noise/vibration will beat you up--Flex for the win. If you have a bunch of DeWalt batteries laying around--DeWalt for the win.
I have the m18 and notice that on lighter duty applications it is smooth as butter compared to weaker tools on the same fasteners.
Great presentation. No matter what, my toolbox is filled with M-18 with the 9.0 and 12.0 amp batteries.
In my world, voltage is electromotive force (EMF). It shouldn't matter what the capacity (measured in Ampere/hour) is with re to the strength of the tool. The capacity only determines the duration the battery can maintain its optimum operating voltage. I would love to see a voltmeter attached to the battery output terminals to see if the tool's or battery's circuitry adjusts the output voltage while the tool is in use. Then I would say that capacity is a significant contributor to the tools torque capability.
Thank you. Most people don’t seem to understand that high capacity doesn’t increase power.
Thank you. Great videos
Please include the Makita XWT08XVZ, can't compare results without this beast!
I'm just a home gamer, but my 899 has saved me so much misery over the last couple years that I don't know what I'd do without it.
Starting a TH-cam channel, makes me keenly aware that 83,000 views, barely yields 1600 reactions and only a few subscribers. I hate that it works that way.
Great content.
You guys are the best!
Quality work yet again
I love your point system
I just bought the Flex 1/2" impact kit for $229 at Lowes. The Limited Lifetime Warranty still applies if registered in 30 days and bought before December 31, 2023. Some of the "bare" tools are that much in other brands. Lifetime Warranty on the tool and up to 3 battery replacements is an awesome deal. Hopefully FLEX will start selling tools without having to buy a full kit! I'm sending the SEESII back to Amazon that I just ordered last week.
About time! Great channel
Home depot has had the 899 kit w/4.0 for $199 as well as lowes this past year or two. Really why I went with it.
I have a margarita in hand and fired up the Torque Test Channel. To my delight, I see my DCF899 up to bat... great timing, and just what I needed after a lonnnnng week.
P.S. I'm willing to strap on... if you are...
The most powerful 1/2 impact cordless is the Ingersoll Rand w7152...do the test and it will amaze you!
Yes!!!!!!
We'll see!
I waited a while for this one
Good video! Two of the videos you shown at the end of the youtube search results are my videos, testing the dewalt dcf899 and the milwaukee 2767 on semi truck lug nuts, and I can confirm that the milwaukee is much stronger in real world results also. I have also tested milwaukee 2864 3/4 vs 2767 1/2 against each other on semi lugs just to see if the 3/4 was noticeably stronger and it was. Dewalt list its 3/4 the same as the 1/2, so although I haven't tested one I wouldn't expect any difference between it and their 1/2 dcf899.
Hey thanks for the confirm! We also got our hands on an m18 3/4"!
Wow. That Flex is heavy!
And it floats! Neat. Big red loyalist here, thanks for backing up my program. Love your show.
Go Big Red!
Yes! I been waiting for this!
Me too... lol
Dang fresh wake up test
i got mine last DEC with a 4ah battery for 200 at home depot and bought a flexvolt 6ah and could really feel some difference between the two
IMO dont bother with the Fexvolt 6ah when you can buy the 20v 6ah with 21700s. The difference between the 5ah and 6ah is very noticeable
@@FoxOutdoors if you have flexvolt tools, you probably have them already. I have up to 9ah flexvolts.
@@scytheakse they have 12ah flexvolt also they're the same size as the 9ah
@@juanc5149 mine sounds fine and dont make a odd noise
@@juanc5149 yeah that sounds normal to me
I hope this tool's successor keeps being made in the USA. I like that tidbit, I can't speak for everybody but I try to prioritize buying domestically-made products
What’s the 1,2,3 settings? I have the same impact and idk the torque max for each setting
Interesting, i have the same dewalt xr 🤔 it works great
Would love to have seen what size battery he used on Milwaukee as a user of dewalt and Milwaukee and Makita I know for a fact that if you don’t use equivalent size batteries it changes the torque drastically
I got the mac tools impact gun, its that Dewalt gun with a mac tools logo on it, i love it been 10x more reliable than snap-ons weekly breakdown gun
I already had many black and yellow tools and picked up this DeWalt high-torque kit with battery and charger for $200 just a few months ago. For that price, I think it does ok.
I know you guys kind of knock DeWalt for a physical power level switch as "dated", but I see that as an advantage. Physical switches tend to hold up better than mode buttons in my experience.
If you're looking for a high-torque tool now and are not committed to a brand already, it is probably worth looking around. Thanks for testing more DeWalt tools lately! Really enjoying your channel!
We were split on the switch between us
Very true, they do last longer. AVE discusses this also.
Time will tell but are you thinking about the old bubble buttons that would wear out over time. I personally think the way they’re doing buttons now, they will last a lot longer. Even the switches can have issues. I’m pretty sure it’s just moving a lever that can break. As long as it works, we’re all winners with any of these tools
Would really like to see a Flexvolt comparison. Dewalt claims performance increase in some tools but the ability of larger cells to keep deliver more current should theoretically increase TQ even in non "flexvolt advantage" tools. It doesn't have to be a full across the board comparison to this one just a Dewalt battery comparison would be useful when deciding whether buying packs with multiple smaller batteries vs 1 larger batt.
Can't wait to see the Bosch High impact Model #GDS18V-740N results. If you get your hands on one, I'll buy it off you after the tests... Been waiting for Bosch to step it up... So many battery's...
Drilling with Milwau: I drained the battery and with only 5 minutes of re-charge I could drill and make more holes in a wall, just for a "quick job" it works, you can work for a few minutes.
I felt like having a flex volt would have made it more better. But the Milwaukee is the king of impacts. Dewalt will hopefully bring out a new one in under a year
Just picked up the DCF899 bare tool for $175 on FB marketplace. Think it was an amazing deal considering I have 2x 10Ahr batteries from my lawn mower I can use with it. Things a beast and it slots in right about where one would expect for a 6 year old tool.
Try it with the new flexvolt batteries. World of a difference
You'd win my heart if you could manage to run a Milwaukee 1" D-Handle impact wrench vs a few other pneumatic or battery 1" guns. It boasts a 2000ft-lbs breakaway torque, and I want to see how it really shows up
One day I hope for that Metabo LTX 400 BL mid torque test. Also interested in the Hitachi 36v high torque that can be run cordless or corded. It gives it a real one up on the other tools, especially in a shop / home environment.
My DCF899 took off my Honda crank bolt using a weighted socket which is the ultimate real-world test for me.
Love the content, your prices are so cheap compared to Australia
DeWalt just hits a nice price range at least where i live (germany).
Have had my flex high torque for almost a month and I'm a diesel and junk mechanic so far every bolt I put it on it has come off I've dropped it from about 12 feet and though for sure it was dead but no still kicking it is a really good impact hopefully the wobble head lasts but with LIFETIME WARRANTY who cares
If you don't have any impact or looking to get in to a good line of tools flex is professional grade tool
And so far tuff as nails
Nice job. Thanks for testing the dcf899. I still like it more than the Milwaukee.
I like dewalt ergonomics more than Milwaukee, and the styling is more tasteful I think.
@@Isaiah-ft5nx they have a much better design and even more power in a lot of cases
Would love to see the MacTools Bruiser it’s the only 1/2inch gun I’ve owned
I have the mac version of the dewalt. It does a good job.
Just a heads up boy's, next couple videos are going to be good.
It would be cool to see how the Mac MPF990501 air impact compares. Its been a beast for me
My kalbolt cordless is 1700fpt 350$ with extra battery. Works great
Do kobalt xtr high torque impact 1200lb rating
Yes! Can’t find any real test on the xtr. I want to see all options before making a decision on a high torque.
@@jkahn7365 imo, it looks exactly the same as the flex. massive and bulky. just go milwaukee.
@@jkahn7365
They're all big and bulky and similar in price on sale or gray market (ebay, offerup, marketplace, etc). Just go with what ecosystem you're in or plan to be in...I'm in makita 18v and Milwaukee 12v.
I have the Makita XWT08 high impact gun and I would be willing to lend it to you for a test. With a 2 MaH battery its plenty strong for working on my cars. I liked your video for the mid torque Makita and I think that would have worked for me too but the price is almost the same for the high torque.
i wonder if a impact driver/wrench would perfom better if it isnt held in hands, but in a fixed position. my thoughts are, that the hand absorbs quite a bit of the punch. eould be nice to see that testet
When are you testing the rigid high torque ? Thanks. Great videos.
Love what your doing could you test the IR hammerhead against the mac/stanley proto right angle air impact
Got a dcf899m1 kit for 250. On sale at lowes and home depot, tractor supply will price match if you remind them that they price match the competition like I had to 😆
Do the test with an 8 or 12ah battery on the flex please. I'd love to see how it helps if at all.
I wonder if the makita is in between all 3
Can you test out the kobalt 1/2 XTR? I bought the older version of it for 100 dollars and I love it. The battery life is awesome. I let my friends shop and his mechanics use it for about 2 weeks and they absolutely love it.
i was just wondering if you could do a test between the dewalt high torque with a 5ah xr 20volt and the 9ah 20v/60v flex volt batteries. i know the flex volt wakes them up a bit but i was curious to see how much
Would love to see how the Kobalt XTR 1/2" high torque impact compares
I just bought one and would love to see what it really makes
@@ferrisguy27 Send it to us :P
I held it in store at Lowe’s, Jesus Christ it’s a heavy beast.
I have one of the first Kobalt 1/2 inch drives. Serial number 00049 it's like 7 years old now and its still kicking funny how its just barely stronger than my new 3/8 impacts but I'm curious to see how much they have changed.
@@TorqueTestChannel pls give me your address, i want to send to you one China big impact wrench. It is so strong.
I dont really care what color the tool is, just that it works. I have a mix of makita, dewalt, and new milwaukee tools with the One-key. While milwaukee might have more options and more power, they always have something wrong with them in the "brains" of the machine. I use these tools daily and they get put to heavy use but the yellow brand never breaks down it seems.
Wow 🥺😳 so great brother ☺️😊
DeWalt in UK is £155 Vs Milwaukee £230 body only. Flex is a good value. In countries where you can't get Flex, DeWalt is better value than Milwaukee. It's not showing off. It just does the job.
That's weird where I am Milwaukee is the cheaper option
@@Apolloneek in europe all milwaukee tools are way more expensive then dewalt, also the batteries
Ya true but milwaukee does the job better ant the batteries are cheaper
@@dalebrimm6339 it does the job exactly the same. I find milwakee too noisy and a lot of spring action from the inside.
dewalt is slow and underpowered i will run circles around dewalts 1/4 inch hex impact, i also dont care for their battery platform with some tools requiring the flexvolt battery
I got the Dewalt shown as a kit for $399 at HD, two 4 ah batteries, charger, impact driver and hammer drill. It's good for my application.
Is there any difference in power between the Type 1 & Type 2 DCF899 ?
I recently got a free replacement (Type 2) for one of my old units and it seems much more powerful. I suspect that is due to not being thrown at anyone yet and that the difference is due to only minimal revisions over the last.
I would like to see a comparison with the newest Mac, Matco, snap on Versus Milwaukee electric 1/2in impacts.
I've had the dcf899 since 2015 when it was brand new. It's pretty good, however the vibration takes its toll on the batteries. The mode select switch gave out once, and if you don't take the head off and grease it once in a while the bushing up front will wear out badly. Might choose another brand to replace it.
That's because when it's brand new Dewalt cheaps out on grease and literally sticks a SMALL DAB in there. I heard about this before I bought mine so I took it apart and added a few GOBS
@@marcoeis6598 a large amount is unnecessary and actually can hinder performance by cushioning the blows from the hammer mechanism. Just a little bit of quality grease added occasionally will do it.
Would love to see Ingersall rands high torque impact wrenches it would give Milwaukee a run for its money.