Children of Anti-Vaxxers, Why Did You Vaccinate?
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Here in Brazil, children can only enroll in daycare centers and schools if they are vaccinated. It is so strange to know that in the USA, parents can choose. It's the same thing with breastfeeding. Here is the most common thing in the world. The formula is usually used only if the mother does not produce enough milk.
We in the USA or at least at my school I guess, it is required for us to get vaccinated around middle school 6th-8th (anytime after that as well) or they won’t let us in
@Queen Mantis Oh, but it's a choice here too. However, for many years, campaigns for breastfeeding have been carried out. It is already instilled in our mind ... It is healthier (usually), and cheaper. We are still a country of great poverty ...
@Queen Mantis I apologize I didn't explain it correctly. 🤗🤗
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In some cases you can lose the guard of your child cause not vaccinating is consideted neglect
Can't remember where I heard it, but I once heard this quote: "If alternative medicine worked, it would just be called medicine."
That is a good quote
Tim Minchin says that in one of his comedy songs, but I don't think he is the originator of the quote.
Imma borrow that!
Alternative "medicine"
@@Hermititis
I think the quote originated from Richard Dawkins. There are several versions accredited to him, actually:
"There is no alternative medicine. There is only medicine that works and medicine that doesn't work." (2003) _A Devil's Chaplain_
"If a healing technique is demonstrated to have curative properties in properly controlled double-blind trials, it ceases to be alternative. It simply, as Diamond explains, becomes medicine." (2003) _A Devil's Chaplain_
"If any remedy is tested under controlled scientific conditions and proved to be effective, it will cease to be alternative and will simply become medicine.” -Richard Dawkins (according to quotefancy.com)
Tim Michin's quote is from _Storm_ released in 2009.
"Alternative medicine....has either not been proved to work, or been proved not to work. Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? Medicine."
My cousin was an anti-vaxxer up until she started dating (and eventually married) a biochemist.
Their kids are all vaccinated.
None of them have autism.
I'm glad they changed there minds hope there kids are doing well!
@@shinysoda6 *their
@@cheese17740 why man? There is no point in correcting people. It does not make you seem smarter.
Hmmm? Ask them why do they give newborn babies the hepatitis b vaccine and if it could have had any negative effects caused by it? Why are they giving newborn babies a venereal disease vaccine? Ask them what effects mercury, aluminum, ect. has to the body? Ask them what effects that agentant 65 (peanut oil) has when injected into to the muscle and what the auto immune response would be? Why they injecting peanut oil in a part of the body that the body wasn't designed to have it in.
@@ryantpritchett2814 You do understand that the amount of mercury in vaccines is so small that you'd need THOUSANDS of vaccines at once to reach a lethal dosage right? and you would also get more mercury by eating tuna than the vaccine. And the "SCARY NEGATIVE EFFECTS" from the Hepatitis B vaccine are nothing compared to Hepatitis B itself, and those negative effects are on the rarer side. For example, Hepatitis B could cause Liver failure and cancer. The worst negative effect of the H.B Vaccine I could find was difficulty with breathing or swallowing (In my opinion better than Cancer or Liver failure).
Mom vaccinated me against a few things then stopped because “I was autistic “ (misdiagnosed). She didn’t want my sister to be damaged like me. I watched her nearly die of the flu until I entervined and got her to her doctor.
I got shingles and chicken pox when young.
My family won’t visit my kid until she and them are vacced
Let's say vaccines do cause autism (which they don't). What's so bad about autism? Would you rather have your child in an iron lung than have autism? I don't understand the thought process
@@snakevenom4954 When my mom told me this reasoning, I went through this dark period that I was some kind of mistake. Even though I knew I was planned and loved, my sister was perfect and didn't need coddling. For a brief period of time, this impacted my relationship with my mom and others.
@@snakevenom4954 frl, I could see if the excuse was CANCER but autism??
to be fair i got chicken pox with the vaccine, lol. i think that’s a common thing tho.
I like how despite being a karen the first parent actually decide to vaccinate their kids and upgrade into a great lovable parent
But the commenter didn't say that their parents were terrible, they said that they didn't know any better.
and the hospital/childwellfare did not inform them, rubbish, they are stupid parents.
Yeah they didnt know any better lol thats garbage
MYSTERY USER how are you gonna have kids before knowing what you need to do? That’s not a good idea.
Um vaccines are just the virus in a weakened state but sometimes it's not weak enough to do its job I get sick every time I get vaccinated so I'm not gonna and I'm not giving my kids vaccines either
As somebody who is neurodiverse, I'm offended that some parents believe that autism is a worse fate then death
Ikr it's awful
I agree. I’m just glad that I didn’t grow up with parents that awful. I’m autistic and I don’t think I could have survived that nightmare
Same here. I’ve been suspecting I’m neurodiverse for a while now and a lot of my friends, including my girlfriend, are diagnosed. We’re all functioning adults. Autism isn’t the easiest thing to live with and it causes significant struggles in life, but I’d prefer this over having to spend the rest of my life on a ventilator.
My brother got vaccinated, was diagnosed with Autism 2 years later. He always says, “The Karens probably use me as proof” lmaoooo
Your brother sounds really fun
Andrew Wakefield: "Yep, my study was right"
And then they’d also ignore the millions of people who are not autistic and are vaccinated
i will never understand why some people would rather risk having a dead child than an autistic child
Especially when vaccines absolutely do not nor never have caused autism.😄
Even IF it absolutely did cause autism, I would much rather have an alive autistic child than a dead one!!! I am a nurse, I am fully vaccinated and so are my kids, and will continue to be.
Dont cause autism but have a 50/50 shot of giving it to you so I'm not getting any more vacs and my kids will not be vaced
@@traviswilson7283 Troll?
@@lazarlol4132 yes because anyone that has a different view than the norm are trolls lol
I have a totally irrationally anti-vax friend whose 4 kids are always sick with one thing or another. She was also anti-junk food and very controlling about what they ate. As in, obsessed.
Her eldest son turned 19 (age of majority where I live) on a Sunday. He went to the walk-in clinic at 0700 on Monday morning and arranged to get all his missing shots.
When he had them all, months later, he presented his Mum with his vaccine record.
She was so upset, she cried for three days and hardly left her room. His dad just shrugged and said, "You are an adult now. Your decision."
So far, the next two kids have followed suit and the youngest said she would as well. They all know that where we live teen kids can get medical treatment without parental consent but out of deference to their Mum's emotions, wait. Our healthcare is mostly free, so money not an issue.
One of her sons is hoping to pursue a medical degree and she is not pleased bc she thinks the medical system is "under government control".
I can't even.
How are you still friends with that woman?
@@gamprhabanero5351 Sometimes I ask myself the same thing. I know this was meant as a rhetorical question with an implied obvious solution, but...
Well, it's complicated. She has gotten steadily odder as time goes on. We just don't discuss certain things- plus our kids are close friends for 6 yrs. She is very nice, but neurotic as hell. She was horribly abused as a kid- her step-father beat her Mum, her siblings, and her. He once threw her against a wall at about age 9- and I think she has permanent brain-damage from this treatment.
She is really good at many THINGS but she has a fear-based thought process and has trouble with logical prioritizing of information. And science.
I try only to spend time with her doing a concrete activity, preferably with another pal along.
She is physically stunning, so her husband indulges her kooky crap.
>Mom cried for days
>Dad was fine since he was old enough to make his own decisions
Why did they marry each other again?
@@AkameGaKillfan777 She's drop-dead gorgeous.
Also, they are divorced now.
@@lesliemccormick6527 People really need to be more clear on what they want in a life partner
My friend got vaccinated at 18 after breaking away form her abusive narcissistic anti vaxxer farther. She got an autism diagnosis literally 3 months later and he went in a massive rant on Facebook about how the vaccines caused her autism. JOHN. She regularly goes none verbal and has meltdowns almost constantly, at least when she was at home. She always has. It definitely was not the vaccine 😂😂
I'm so thankful I grew up in Ontario where vaccinations are mandatory and opting out requires the parents taking educational courses and signing waivers that state that they went through the courses, and know the consequences of the diseases the vaccines protect against.
It means that a lot of people just do them because it's easier then the process to get a waiver.
Omg that’s amazing!! I’m in Quebec and I just got my vaccine but my dad is anti-vax and refuses to get it 😑😑
In my state or at least town, basically, the really bad things are mandatory at some point, which is basically everything except the flu lmao.
@@Rosalie-yn1bt why is he anti vax?
@@rebeccacummings6697 sorry I just saw this but he’s antivax for a bunch of reasons. He thinks he’s somehow immune already and he is convinced he’s stronger than a lot of the population (??) so he thinks it’s useless. But when I say then “what’s the harm in getting it” he says that it’s rigged or smthng and he goes off about how bill gates wants to kill people and so on and that there’s trackers or smthng. There’s no use arguing with him he’ll always bring up some excuse.
I and my nephew have always believed in vaccination and when my nephew was at primary school there was an outbreak of diphtheria in the school in which a young girl died .He and all his school friends were given vaccinations and booster shots for all the usual illnesses and back then no parents objected and all the kids suffered no side effects and since then we have both worked in the medical field and have never come across any problems caused by vaccination.
what was weird was there was a whooping cough outbreak at my school from one of the vaccinated kids. idk how tf that happened still to this day. is it a live vaccine or something? i was unvaccinated and never caught it. i’m pro-vaccine but couldn’t get it bc i was raised by an anti-vaxxer.
Igh! I somehow managed to be the only person to get infected with meningitis on my last day on a family vacation in Spain when I was 13(1999). My mom thinks it may have been the lobster I had for my last dinner on the vacation, because that was the only thing I did different from the rest of my family.
The next morning I woke up to my dad calling the hospital to check if he should bring me in because I'd been wailing from pain out of sleep, which he ended up doing.
They diagnosed me with stiff shoulder muscles and sent me home with voltaren.
After four hospital visits in the next three days, and them always saying it was just stiff muscles, I'd gotten so sick that I was close to death and they couldn't ignore me anymore.
The doctor that realized it was meningitis shouted over the entire department: "why did nobody actually check her neck!!!".
I will never forget the panic in his shout.
I ended up spending a couple of days in the ICU and a couple of weeks in isolation... Not very fun when you're a kid with ADHD.
A year later they started vaccinating kids for meningitis at schools.
I have no idea if I have any permanent brain issues because of it, because just a few weeks later I slipped off of a second story rooftop and received my first confirmed brain damage... so it's hard to say which caused what.
I've received quite a few brain injuries since then, and every time it gets a little worse and my brain gets a little more fragile.
It seemed weird to me that you could get meningitis from lobster so I tried googling it and even searched scientific papers but couldn't find a source that confirmed that was a thing. Perhaps the cook or one of the staff where you ate had meningitis?
You were so lucky you found that one doctor who was competent enough to do a thorough exam and figure out what you had before the disease did too much more damage. Meningitis is a nasty fast spreading disease, some who contracted it were only sick for a few hours before it got so bad they had to have one or more limbs amputated or much worse it killed them.
@@claritey yeah, it was just my mom's theory. I did some research not too long ago about it and I think there was actually a meningitis outbreak in Spain at the time I was on the vacation.
wow super glad i have my meningitis shot now 😳
it sucked to get, really sore arm, bruising, and rash but worth the protection it brings from that horrible disease.
@@claritey there’s two different kinds i think. bacterial and viral. bacterial could theoretically spread through food that’s contaminated i think. one of the kind is the only one that causes blindness, the other one sucks but it’s less deadly.
@@herusaleron6793 There's bacterial, viral and fungal meningitis but the fungal variety isn't contagious. The really bad, potentially fatal & super contagious one you were vaccinated for is called meningococcal meningitis, its bacterial in nature.
As for the lobster I didn't think it could be a carrier for the bacteria while it was alive then transmit the disease to a human who ate it after it was cooked. However, a lobster could be a vector for transmitting bacterial meningitis if an infected person got their germs on it after it was cooked.
My siblings and I were all property vaccinated as children. We clearly didn't think that was enough for our immune systems because I licked a chair at a McDonald's, my sister ate a pepperoni off the floor of a cici's pizza, and my brother ate a chicken nugget he found in a burger King play place. Those were all equally not fun days for our poor mother but we are probably super immunized for everything now 😆
That's how ya do it lol! Get vaccinated and lick things and eat things you shouldn't, that is the way for immunity build up :D I did the same thing, I wonder, do you and siblings got allergies? I do not
@@Mousey10101 I still have some allergies yes. Mostly during dramatic shifts in temperature and some plants.
@@kayq3231 Unfortunate but I hope it is not as bad as if your own immune system wants to kill ya.
Yeah, I put so much strange, germy stuff in my mouth throughout childhood that Im pretty sure Im immune to most things now.
Lmao
I’m glad my family aren’t antivaxxers. I’m glad I’m 100% vaccinated. Obviously I have some family members that are allergic to certain vaccines, but thank god herd immunity is a thing. I even have my COVID-19 vaccine despite all the bad things, I’d rather die by a vaccine than by some illness like COVID-19, it was really devastating seeing my grandmother fighting COVID. I wouldn’t sleep during the night in fear she died in her sleep, but during the day I’d sleep a bit and wake up and take care of her. She’s also 100% vaccinated with the COVID-19 vaccine and she’s still living!
Holy crap, the first story they said their teeth stained yellow bc the high fevers cooked their adult teeth in their head, is that freaking possible??? That sounds terrifying to me
High fever is what caused Helen Keller to be blind and deaf bribed her brain and now we have vaccines against that stuff but I'm still slightly baffled how they didn't do anything didn't they have aspirin and wet towels I'm very confused how it got that bad though
Everytime someone said that vaccines cause autism, as someone who learned Biology, I lost my braincells.
Did they not understand that Autism is cause by genetic and you have it before you're born?
Wtf its not a disease lol
When I talked to my dad about this he said people don’t want to admit they’re the reason something is wrong with their kid so they will look for something else to blame.
my mom and dad thought (still think?) this and one time my dad said hed rather have a dead kid than an autistic one :(
@@furiousmagician5912 That's awful. Speaking as the parent of an autistic son, there's no way I'd rather him be dead.
Not necessarily true. Most cases of autism are genetic and congenital, but there are actually exceptions. For example, prenatal rubella syndrome and cerebellar brain damage are both non-genetic causes of autism, and in the case of cerebellar damage, it's possible to occur after birth.
There even is one case where there's actual good evidence that a girl's autism was caused partially by getting a vaccine. She had an undiagnosed mitochondrial disorder that meant her body wasn't able to cope with fasting, and the fever she got after a vaccination suppressed her appetite. No one realized that skipping meals would be dangerous for her until she'd gone into a metabolic collapse, and she just barely survived and had a brain injury that caused her to be autistic.
But the vast majority of kids who supposedly got autism from vaccines do actually have genetic autism.
Man that one with the appendix. Would you not try anything to save your child when they became that ill? It’s insane that she wanted to hold her ground so badly that the dad had to fight her on the way out. Like that’s mind boggling.
My parents were more neutral vaxxers. I got the important shots, namely the MMR, but not all of the recommended shots. For me, what swung me way into the pro-vaxxer side was when I went on a mission trip to Kenya and while there for two weeks, 3 children had died of preventable diseases. One from measles, I forget what the other two were, but I think they were rubella. Children there were dying of easily preventable diseases we don't have to worry about in the developed world. Ever since, I have stayed up to date on all my shots.
I was vaccinated against Tetanus and one more thing I don’t remember as a child. I never realized how few shots I got until I got older and realized I didn’t have any protection against Measles etc. and if I caught any of it now it may well end lethal. So I got into a fight with my mom (I’m underage), sat through a video about vaccine reactions with her, and got my shot
As someone who grew up in their formative years (partially elementary, middle school, & partially high school) in Taiwan, where healthcare was essentially free and really good, not getting a vaccine was not just so out of the norm, it was illegal (?) I believe. Kids who didn't want to get the vaccine at school would later have to get it at a large hospital.
What do they do about kids who physically cannot get it due to allergies or something?
@@jendubay3782 Good question, I'm not sure. I never looked into it that much. Though what I'm semi sure about is if you don't get your bi-yearly flu vaccine check up, you have to go to the doctor to get a permission slip. The doctors there will probably have a solution for it. I'm not a healthcare professional so I don't know much, but I'm pretty confident in Taiwan healthcare system. Sure there are lots of flaws and cracks, but as of now, living in the US without any health insurance is very worrisome and scary.
@@jendubay3782 Sorry if that didn't answer your question >< I hope you have a good day!!
If you refuse to take your dying child to hospital you should be charged with child endangerment and child abuse. End of.
My mom only got me and my siblings vaccinated until we hit 5 years old and then she didn't bother (for many reasons). Imagine calling my doctor to ask what I needed to be up to speed for my vaccinations and she said "oh boy" 😅
I know a guy with a teenage son who believes vaccines caused his son's autism. He did, however, end up getting the covid vaccine when our mutual friend of similar age died of covid.
Autism runs in families. Easier to believe in debunked fables than to accept the gene pool you come from.
@@lesliemccormick6527 has nothing to do with gene pool lol anyone can be born with autism not just certain people and their family lol
I'm one of those people who has allergies to some vaccines... so have had to do routine allergy testing to find out what is safe and what is not. I have most of my vaccinations, but there are some that I can't have. Like I can't get a flu / pneumonia shot. We did another round of allergy testing for the covid shot, and found that I was allergic to one of three, so we made sure I signed up for a site that used one of the ones I could take.
it is people like you who I get vaccinated for, so that you are safe and healthy!
Egg allergy?
Yeah my sis is in a similar boat about mot being able to get some vaccines. She’s extremely immuno compromised and can’t get the flu shot or a few other vaccines but luckily she was able to get one of the Covid shots but I forgot which one.
My boyfriend also can't get the flu shot due to an allergy, but its not an egg allergy like most people who can't have the flu shot. Bodies are weird lol
What do eggs gotta do with a vaccine lol the vaccines are just the weakened virus
You rarely hear about anti-vax dads in these stories. Why is it the kooky moms making all the health decisions? Are the dads there?
@Ali O'Neal I'm wondering if there are a lot of anti-vax dads, too. hmm...
My dads anti vaxx but my mom over ruled him (hes also anti mask now) and I got all my vaccines though I remember having to be caught up when I was real little and getting like 10 in one day. My mom took me to ice cream after becuase i was holding back tears the whole time the whole time I still have a debilitating fear of needles and have as long as I can remember so she knew I was being supper brave for little me who was a huge cry baby.
@@victoriatube159 Aww, I'm sorry you got pincushioned. And I'm sorry you still have to deal with a parent who is not operating on a rational plane. Yikes.
@@victoriatube159 still hope for your dad health.. Please keep him out of public spaces
@@lancheloth i can only do so much crazy 400 pound wall of a man wants to go to a bar you don't exactly stop them
Anti-vaxxers: Vaccines are bad.
Me, who nearly died of pneumonia at 17, the only preventable illness I wasn't vaccinated against that my mother could've gotten me jabbed at any time for cheap or free at our local WIC clinic: Are you SURE about that?
Out of bad timing I got chickenpoxs at a year old and at 8 developed a patch of shingles on my back. I'm very certain if I was never vaccinated I would of died due to my bad immune system as a child. I inherited my dad's asthma and I'm sure my lungs would of been targeted if I got some preventive disease.
Considering shingles doesn't express itself until middle age if you're unlucky (odds are 1 in 3), your immune system must've been too weak to keep the shingles virus dormant. I also heard severe stress can cause an outbreak. I had chickenpox in the early 90s so the vaccine for it didn't exist yet so the shingles virus has been camping out in my nerve endings for 20+ years now.
Fortunately, there's a vaccine for that now. When I'm old enough (33 currently), I hope to get stabbed for shingles. Let's be real, 1 in 3 odds of shingles giving you a hard time when you're older are very shit odds.
My mom’s the opposite.
She always kept me updated on vaccines. _Always._
Her want to vaccinate me and my siblings was only fueled by the time I got the flu. I was so beyond sick. It was terrible. That’s the only vaccination I think I missed. I might have gotten the flu another time, but I’m not sure. So yeah, as the oldest, I was used as this little lab rat to show my mom that you gotta keep up the vaccines.
And she never fails to be on top of that. I already have both covid vaccines. My younger brother who is 16 is going to be getting his covid vaccine soon. It’s overall gonna be nice.
My dad friends friend from uni had meningitis. Friday he went to bed with the “flu”. Sunday he had died. It’s so quick and easy to miss as it has flu symptoms. Vaccinate yo damn kids!!!!
To all the Anti-Vaxxers out there:
Vaccines don't give children autism or other mental disorders, and even if they did, would you rather have your kid get autism or die from easily preventable diseases?
I honestly don’t understand how a person can believe that autism is caused by vaccines. Not only that but imagine the message that it sends to that poor kid when they’re told that they can’t get the vaccine because the parent thinks autism is some sort of horrible disease. I’m autistic myself and I would much rather be autistic then dead
My brother and I have both had several converstations with my mother about vaccines, especially since covid hit. She tried to raise us to be anti-vax like she is but both of us did our own research individually and came to the conclusion that her arguments against them were nonsense and not backed by science in any capacity. In my most recent argument with her, I told her I was going to get my second dose in a couple days. She tried to talk me out of it with facebook sources and I explained why the reasoning was faulty. It ended with me saying that just like I know nothing I say will likely change her mind, I'll never change mine about getting vaccinated for covid (my brother and I are both legally adults and living on our own, completely independent, so there's not really anything she can do about it). Then she literally said unless someone physically held her down and injected her, she would never get the vaccine.
Just ask your grandparents about the polio, and how fast did they took their children to get vaxxed
@@somejerk1520 Your name says it all.
@@somejerk1520 No, in fact they said their children stayed healthy, while the children of antivaxers died or had deformities on their legs. Neither my parents or aunts or uncles had any secondary effect from the vaccine, or any people from their generation. However, I saw the effects of the polio in people who didn´t get the vaccine
@@somejerk1520 you'r a true antivaxx ,hope you dont have kids.
@@somejerk1520 i will let you know when i have one
@@somejerk1520 Please explain 'normal'.
I live in the UK and had all my vaccinations as a child. But I still contracted mumps, measles, German measles and chickenpox as a child. At least I only got the lesser version and recovered.
I had chickenpox and rubella (German measlea). But that was before the MMR was available.
@@deathbycheese850 I'm a child of the 1970's and I have no idea of what was available back then but my mum reassured me that I had every vaccines available
Wow...learned something new today from the comment section: that "Röteln" or Rubella are also called german measles.
Why are they the "german" measles? Will hopefully read about it now.
Thank you for this unintentional new knowledge.
@@backpug1228 In April 2015 the World Health Organization declared the Americas free of rubella transmission. The name "rubella" is from Latin and means little red. It was first described as a separate disease by German physicians in 1814 resulting in the name "German measles".
Amazing how people will disbelieve something every credible doctor, nurse, microbiologist and biochemist on earth will agree upon, but unquestionably believe something told to them by a random troll on the internet.
My son, at 5 months old, caught Whooping cough and it was so scary - watching him turn blue every time he coughed - but to have 5 children with it?!? Unbelievable!
I can't even fathom the pain that people must feel with Whooping Cough - I hope they don't remember the ordeal!
I caught the whooping cough as an adult. Fortunately it wasn't as severe as other people tell, but the horrible feeling of choking is unforgettable. And yes, the chest pain was quite ugly too. Sometimes I urinated myself when I started to cough and I lost almost 20 pounds because I was unable to eat without having those cough fits. It lasted about two or three months but the cough fits lasted almost a year.
I am one of those lucky people who had to get all the vaccinations twice so far. I was up to date until I had a bone marrow transplant that wiped my immune system out. It was like a newborn without the natural protection their mother gives for x number of months. Almost caught up with them again, have three left I believe. Second dose of hep b included
The one year mom didn't get around to getting the flu shot, she got the flu. She said she'll never skip it again! Then in 2019 all of us got our flu shots, but me, brother, and mom all caught the same strain, one that wasn't included in the vaccines that year. Flu Vaccines only cover 3-4 strains, whichever ones the pharmaceutical people think are gonna be an issue. Well, they missed one. Fortunately it was very mild for me and my family, felt like a bad cold. Still knocked me on my butt and made me want to be put into a coma for a week...
Lucky. I’ve also been good about getting mine, mostly just a routine thing up until 2017. Missed my flu shot that year, mostly just cause things got hectic at home and with school, ended up in the hospital with bacterial phenomena after basically coughing up my lungs for two weeks. Sworn to never miss one again. Took a few months for it to clear up after being discharged from the hospital, with a strong antibiotic prescribed. Lungs still kinda hate me if I do anything too strenuous, plus a constantly returning frog in my throat that acts up with even the slightest irritant, cold or respiratory allergies.
1. Vaccines do not cause autism
2. Even if it did, there is nothing wrong with autism
3. My mum is currently in the process of getting me tested for autism. Yes I am vaccinated, but my maternal uncle is autistic and so is my paternal half brother. It runs in my family
My brother and I have identical vaccination records. We were given the exact same vaccines at the exact same ages by the exact same doctor... and I'm the only one who came out autistic. And autism is "supposedly" more common in boys. Let's see the anti-vaxxers try to explain *that.*
These story’s confirm stupidity isn’t a genetic trait.
Nah, the vaccinators are stupid, its been proven people who are vaccinated have a higher chance of having autism.....
Because the non vaccinated people are dead
@@rebeccacummings6697 Dihyrogen Monoxide has been in everyone’s body that has died ever. It’s also in vaccines 😯.
It’s the scientific term for water.
@@yetidoesstuff228 Wow, man, that brings a new prospect on life
@@rebeccacummings6697 Not gonna lie you had me in the first half
Always preferred "hydrogen hydroxide" for it. Dihydrogen Monoxide is clunky-- a little learning is a dangerous thing, Alexander Pope once wrote.
Funny, but sad, story.
So while I was growing up I knew a lady who was very, very anti-vax ever since her first child was diagnosed with autism at around age three.
So she stopped vaccinating, and never got a shot for any child afterward.
Then the second child was diagnosed with autism.
Then the third showed some signs.
Then the fourth.
They were all sick all the time and some were unable to do very basic things to take care of themselves.
One kid couldn’t be toilet trained (even after puberty) and was violent.
Eventually her husband (who was a well-adjusted, successful guy and seemed much more normal than her) turned out to have been autistic all along.
It ran in the family.
I’m autistic, too, and it runs in my family.
I always wondered how the non-autistic lady married an autistic man and had an unusual number of children who were sick and disabled.
What was wrong with that family?
They’d never had any vaccines.
You’d think she was a martyr sometimes, to hear her talk about vaccines.
But her kids were not healthy.
And they weren’t capable.
Why?
What happens to autistic children who are raised by anti-vaxxers that does not happen to autistic children who are raised by normal people?
Autistic kids often function way better if raised by a supportive family who accommodate their needs as much as possible. People who become anti-vax because their child was diagnosed are generally people who can't mentally cope with having a child who is different from what they were expecting, and as such, they tend not to be very supportive parents to their kids. For example, pushing them into burnout trying to train them to act normal, not letting them use strategies that improve functioning but make them look more unusual, putting them through quack medical "treatments" that make them sick instead of helping them, etc. In contrast, supportive parents give their autistic kids breaks from overload and stress, encourage them to do things that are helpful but make them seem weird like stimming or finding alternate means of communication when speech isn't working, embrace the strengths that come from autism (like obsessive interests) instead of seeing them as symptoms to treat, and generally avoid or stop doing things that claim to be intended to help but are actually making their kid worse.
I had a neighbor who's teen son got meningitis when he was three months old...totally messed him up...it was heartbreaking to see photos of him pre illness as a healthy, smiling little baby. ☹
First story: your teeth weren't cooked in your head. At some point, you or your mother while she was pregnant probably got an antibiotic call tetracycline. It causes yellow stains on teeth if you take it while you teeth are developing. Additionally, the normal color of teeth varies from yellow to grey. You can get them white, but with limited effectiveness, or get veneers on your teeth.
Yes, I was going to say, that sounds like tetracycline. My sister was on that for bad acne in the 70's but luckily it did not stain her teeth yellow. They stopped prescribing it.
Imagine trying to explain to someone from the 1800s that we can abolish viruses like polio but loads of parents refuse to give this to their children because it doesn't cause something they think it does.
I have a friend at work who got Meningitis as a child. She now suffers from imbalance with her equilibrium due to nerve damage around the inner ears and she also has seizures she thought were just migraines and passes out, her blood pressure will drop really low and she has to elevate her legs when it happens. She can't drive now for fear of passing out at the wheel. Its all side effects from meningitis. And she was a lucky one. She survived. Get those vaccines folks.
As a Christian, I have a lot of beliefs. Like God has a plan for all of us, that Jesus will come again when the world ends and one shouldn't swear.
But I also believe in getting vaccines and going to the doctor when you get sick.
yea but not that covid vaccine bull shit
God gave us doctors for a reason!
@@kayq3231 i mean legit that
@@eddyhoopin you mean the one that is proving effective at getting rid of a disease that has crippled and killed poeple?
Are you one of those poeple that go I don't see the effects of covid so it must not be a real problem?
@@starandfox601 reporter takes vaccine on live tv to prove its safe, dies 1-2 days later
My sister was an anti-vaxxer until she started going to medical school. Now "it never happened."
don't stop at vaccinating your kids
vaccinate yourselves too
it protects you, it protects them
No
Similar to one of the later stories, i got all my vaccines except for the HPV vaccine series. I’m 23 and am also now fully vaccinated for coronavirus. I need to get myself fully vaccinated for HPV, probably before i turn 26. I also persuaded my family to get the flu shot last year
Me and my parents have always been pro-vax people. I’m always up to date on my shots (tho I do hate the needles of course). My grandmother is a total karen, however. Trump supporter, anti-vax, the whole nine yards. After me and my dad got our Covid shots (it was his second, my first), there was a sign near the door that said ‘I GOT VACCINATED TODAY’
He actually had the gall to ask me, jokingly, “Should we take a selfie in front of it and send it to your grandmother?”
Okay, at least she knew enough about economics to be a Trump supporter. That goes in the plus column.
In my country,the government really just send a few nurses and doctors to school out of nowhere and we get vaccinated without prior notice. When we talk about it to our parents, they're just glad we received medical care for free from the government because our parents grew up when the country are still a third world country and they used to have hard time receiving medical care.
Same here. Meningitis and typhoid fever at school and I'm grateful.
Here is one of many facts that I learned to live by from a very young age:
Don’t entirely trust you’re parents. They’re not the end all be all, and they don’t know everything. Make demands for explanations, and if they won’t give it to you, ask questions of family friends or other family members. Your parents have an obligation to be transparent with you, so they need to explain themselves when it comes to things like your health.
If no one tells you something, then you have an obligation to look elsewhere. Don’t hesitate because of your relationship with your family. Your health is far more important than making your family happy.
I told my antivax mom I received the COVID-19 vaccine and I’m still waiting for a reply 😂
Rip
My uncle died from Covid-19 and my mom is immunocompromised. My dad is an anti-vaxxer. He said, "If you get the vaccine I'm never talking to you again." Keep in mind he also said he disowned my sister over asking if the My Pillow guy was involved in a scandal.
I'll be getting my second shot on June 4th. I haven't said a word to him about it. My mom just snuck out with us one day to "get groceries." I don't know if I'll ever tell him.
I've heard vaccine so much it ain't a word anymore 😆
What do your parents think about their kids getting vaccinated?
The Rock: It doesn’t matter what they think!!
Okay, the story about even the OP was LITERALLY PEEING BLOOD and the mom STILL fought the Father to try and keep him from going to the hospital........ I can't decide whether I want to cry or punch the wall more just hearing that
I (16 as of this comment) never got the flu shot, and neither have my siblings (sister-20 and brother-10). But everything else you know damn sure she was on top of that shit. My mother's reasoning for this is, what's the point if you're pretty much guaranteed to catch it at least once down the line with how fucking common it is, and with the vast amount of variants and stains those little shits that are 'quite literally' floating around (not her words exactly but you get the point). And while thinking about it, it's not that bad of a reason really. Not only that normal people are able to treat themselves and other people who are infected with relative ease, if done right, not only will there be a natural immunity buildup of all of those different strains, but a continuous immunity buildup of the flu in it's entirety. I personally believe this did wonders for our immune systems. I was infected with a strain of Covid a week before winter break, as well as my brother after the disease left my systems a week into the break (quick side tangent, my family received news on Christmas Day that the disease left my brother's systems, which actually find pretty funny - talk about Christmas miracles!). While we were infected, nothing bad really happened. All I got was a clogged sinus and a semi high body temperature. I'm not quite sure what my brother had, but I believe it was somewhat similar. I believe that the constant exposure to the different flu strains helped with our immunity to Covid - given that Covid is just an amped up version of the normal flu in its behavior, and that both primarily target the host's respiratory system.
High fever can cook your teeth? ._.
i have a friend whos parents wont let them get the covid vaccine. im so mad about it cause now idk if he can come over and hang out cause my parents are pretty strict about covid stuff (as they should be). hopefully he can come over once my whole family is vaccinated
Getting the vaccine doesn't protect you from getting it nor does it mean you have it because you aren't vaccinated the covid is just a flu on steroids
@@traviswilson7283 it offers some protection from getting it, but even if a vaccinated person does get it, the chance they are hospitalized from it is greatly lowered. also, covid is not really flu on steroids. its an entirely different virus. and even if it was, we get flu shots every year anyways because flu is dangerous, so why wouldn't we get a vaccine for "flu on steroids"?
@@bo1932 it is flu on steroids literally the same symptoms just worse and yes they do provide some protection but they also give you the virus they're supposed to protect you from I've always gotten sick every time I get a vaccine that's why I dont get them anymore
@@traviswilson7283 covid and flu do have very similar symptoms, but on a biological level they are different viruses. and yes, many vaccines do give a smaller or weaker or in some way changed dose of the virus so your body learns to produce anitbodies to protect from it. the response you have to the vaccine is your immune system fighting it off, so you know its working. however, many of the covid vaccinations are different than a traditional vaccine. pfizer and moderna both use mRNA covid vaccines. this means that the injection essentially has instructions for your body to make the correct protein to fight the virus without actually exposing you to it. its pretty brilliant. and again, the reaction you get is just your immune system reacting to it and building up anitbodies. it can suck a little bit, but its perfectly safe and certainly much safer than dying in a hospital, away from your family, because of a virus that can be largely prevented with a simple shot or two
@@bo1932 how do you know what they put in them lol dont believe the government just because they say something dont make it true
The only vaccine i didn't get when i was younger was the chicken pox vac. Unless I got it when i was in elementary/early middle school. Idk, but my whole family is for vaccines.
Please, if you are over 16 and in the 🇺🇸 go get your vaccine for Covid 19. You probably do not need your parents ok. Ask your school nurse.
Im someone who's had bad reactions to vaccines as a baby, obviously my parents consulted a doctor about it and we stopped for some time for my health. They've been called anti vaxers a few times because of it, unfortunately, but I'm caught up now and they'll let me opt for any optional vaccines which I'll usually get even though I hate needles lmao
My mom is reluctant of the Covid vaccine because she's scared of needles
Guess I'm luckier than these people
Have her try numbing patches they’re my absolute saviour 👌
@@daisymay6505 Will do, thanks for the tip
There are also numbing creams or gels that piercers/tattoo artists sometimes use, one brand I know of is called TKTX but there are others available online if you can't find patches. It also helps if you look away or close your eyes so you don't know when the shot coming. I got a bit nervous before my vaccines but I hardly felt them and it was over fast.
@@claritey I use emla patches myself, they're awesome
Lol
it is sad though that in America you will face more trouble not getting your pets vaccinated than you would with your children.
People, sadly, see rabies as an even bigger threat than historical killers like small pox or polio. This isn't to downplay how dangerous rabies is but I think this boils down to the fact that in many states, animals are considered property. Therefore, liability comes into play. If your dog contracts rabies and it bites someone, YOU are liable for your property's actions.
I want an anti-vaxxer to explain something to me. Autism has been around to the tune of millennia. A couple centuries ago, you'd have written reports about strange behavior in people and they chalked it up to something. Even further back, you have myths and legends explaining things. Changelings are a prime example. So autism has always been here. So how is a modern invention retroactively causing it then?
@@25Erix The reason for the enforcement of rabies vaccines is because rabies has no cure - not for animals and not for people. There is one documented case of a person surviving rabies. Literally one.
Obviously the diseases we get vaccinated against are serious - but none of them have a mortality rate of 99.9% like rabies does.
My country has so few cases of rabies (around 10 diagnosed cases a year) that all imported animals need to have a test to prove they have antibodies from the rabies vaccine. I learned this because my mom and her husband are moving here with their cats and have spent $1500 doing titer tests because there is literally only one lab in all of North America that does these tests. We also have a national canine registry and if your dog is unregistered and not vaccinated against rabies it can be taken from you.
Honestly, wouldn't mind a similar system being set up for kids and their vaccines but that would violate human rights or whatever lol
My sister in law refuses to vaccinate her kids. Being an anti-vaxxer is bad enough, but she also compared herself to a jew during the Holocaust because she was asked to wear a mask. Also she was in full support of the insurrectionists during the capitol riots, she even posted on facebook about how sad she was that no democrats got strung up on that noose they made. But back to vaccines. She and my Brother recently learned they are having another baby. My parents and i were going to fly out and see them and congratulate them. She basically told us to stay away because we got the COVID vaccine and she didnt want to get a protein spike from being near vaccinated people... I literally felt my brain cells start committing mass suicide after she said that.
It was no insurrection -- avail yourself of a dictionary. It _was_ definitely a riot, though. Civil commotion, if you like.
@@w.reidripley1968 insurrection: a violent uprising against an authority or government.
So lets see, they rebelled against the government to overturn a fair election, than they smashed a bunch of windows, several people died and they were building a platform to hang government officials.... what part of that is NOT a violent uprising?
My guardian (I don't even consider her my parent anymore. She adopted my twin and I, she was and still is abusive) believed for a long time that our early childhood vaccines caused our autism. I'm not sure if she still believes it but for a long time she did. I got a vaccine at the doctors during my 17th yearly checkup that happened during March this year. I ended up telling her I got it and she screamed at me all the way to a Walmart. Then got out yelled "I don't even want to talk to you! Don't fucking talk to me!" and slammed the door closed.
She believes doctors are stupid and know nothing and aren't trustable. She thinks she knows more than them.
Edit: I remembered something else about this experience. At my 16th year checkup, I was supposed to the HPV vaccine (that's the one I got recently) but my guardian said no and kind of fought with them about it. Her reasoning for why I shouldn't get it was "You're not sexually active"
My mother didn’t know I was going to get vaccinated for covid. She died before I got it so that’s how I got around that.
I'm sorry for your loss.
Don’t be it’s okay I don’t miss her.
1:30 The thing is that Asperger Autism can be diagnosed around the same time children get first vaccinated, and many parents draw wrong conclusions from that.
4:50 The worst thing about the HPV vaccine is that even many gynecologists tell their patients not to get it. Why? I can only guess that it makes them look good in the eyes of their patients, which are obviously teenage girls with their overprotecitve, alternative medicine loving mothers. (Ironically, the same mothers have absolutely no objection to contraceptive pills). And cancer from HPV is rare enough and can be detected early enough that they don't have to fear repercussions.
8:20 I love a good dose of anti-establishment bias.
Thank god my mom isn’t insane and I’m fully vaccinated just waiting for my 2nd Pfizer vaccine
Found out too late that my mother had been dropped off the GPs list, and had not realised. Missed out on the shingles vaccine and spent a couple of months in a miserable state shortly before she died (from an unrelated problem)
Not sure if it's the same everywhere, but where I am we get vaccinated for free in school. We just need our parents to sign a permission form. My mum and me both thought I was fully vaccinated because of it. But then one day in high school, I was taken out of class and the teacher explained that there was a gap in my records. It turns out, they'd somehow managed to skip over two of my vaccines. So I was dragged into the gym with all the younger kids and had to get a surprise vax then. My mum wasn't happy when she found out, but she was mad that they'd skipped me in the first place, not mad at the actual vaccination.
I feel like not vaccinating your kid should be illegal
Good for you. Congratulations to those who's decided to get.
Oh Oh Oh
I am like the best anti-vax "proof" for why vaccines are bad
I have my vaccines and I'm autistic, dyslexic, gay and I have ADHD
👍
And we still love you!
I have all same except maybe the gay(still questioning)
I'm still not seeing the connection.
i was antivaxx and im greyaroace omni trans nonbinary and have tics and am likely to have adhd
I had a bad reaction to the hpv vaccine. My arm swoll up and had a knot/ lump for almost a year. My arm was so damn sore over 6 months. So I didn't give the hpv to my daughter but it really bothers me. I wish i could but I'm scared she'll have a bad reaction too. Also i have like 3 family members with autism and then had 2 boys with autism... born that way. It's not from vaccines.
Learning disability runs in my family and I have autism given they both have a genetic component it's probably genetic
Vaccines don’t cause autism. And everybody’s body is different.
@@blindpeopledostuff3587 She knows that. I'm still waiting for an actual anti-vaxxer to explain how a modern invention is retroactively causing a spectrum of disorders with a history to the tune of thousands of years.
13:49 This person nailed it on the head. As information has become easier to access in the digital age, so has misinformation, and _that_ is what creates anti-vaxxers.
I get that people have there own opinions about medicine in general but to me it feels like majority of the parents in this thread are incredibly privileged……on a bad level
I got everything that was available in the UK in the early 1950s, but this did not include the MMR trio. My mother blamed my need for glasses at an early age on my getting measles
My smallest brother has autism, ODD and ADHD. My other younger brother has combined type ADHD and probably depression, but that one is not diagnosed. I have bipolar disorder and an anxiety disorder. My dad is antivax, though I havent seen him in 7 years. He always said that weed was the only medicine he needed and he put the expense of it over buying food and clothes, and bills for us sometimes. None of us intend to stop getting vaccines.
Your Dad's addicted and his anti-vaxx beliefs and addiction reinforce each other.
@@GrayAndGrey i know. I heard he did rehab, but he’s still an awful person according to my little brother who kept in touch with him
My son had measles, mumps, and chicken pox. He was highly reactive, and had fevers of 105-106F for days on end, as we worked frantically to bring down the fevers, all of us were aware that brain damage was possible, as well as his life being endangered. When COVID arose, all of my fears came back, not so much for myself as for him. And then I found he had been converted to ‘It’s just the flu, why mask or worry’. 15 days in the ICU, came within a few breaths of not making it, still recovering. He was born before the childhood vaccines were available; the only reason he wasn’t protected.
I'm fully vaccinated except for the HPV one. My parents have a friend who was paralyzed and ended up in a wheelchair bc of that vaccine, but occasionally I do doubt that story's credibility.
If you’re under 26, you should get it. I got it when it first came out and I’m perfectly fine, and if anything, the vaccine is safer now than it was then.
What does age have to do with vaccines
@@traviswilson7283 it's in the video
I wish I could get them. However I’m highly allergic to some medication. I have had ended up in the hospital before do to the reaction. So my mother is very fearful of giving me more vaccines as we don’t know exactly what I’m allergic to.
As well I have a high risk of blood clutz. And some medication can increase that.
Not talking about the actual diseases against which people get vaccinated seems to be a pretty common threat within anti of axer communities.
This video makes me luv my parents as they have spend a pretty penny for vaccines that weren’t covered by health insurance (Belgium)
I'm 22 and don't have a single one mostly fear of needles. My parents aren't against it as far as I know but since I'm 1 of 9 and others got more sick than me I just never got them. I do have a little whopping cough but I got that as mid teenager and pretty rare when it pops up.
Shout out to my grandma for secretly taking me to get mine, even if I was kicking and screaming cause I didnt like needles. Glad she saw it through
Not exactly fitting the title just thought i would share.
My dads allergic to some medicine that he needed (pretty sure there is alternatives, and i dont remember much because i was pretty young when told this story) when he got sick, first time, came in, got the shot, allergic reaction and passed out, hit his head on a handle on the side of the counter. My mom witnissed the whole thing. Second time, differnt place. They where about to use the same one, mom tells them what happened before, all they said was: "Oh, youll be fine!". Same thing happened once again, but ALMOST hit the handle again.
People think that autism means stupid.
I’m currently fifteen and my mom tells me that there’s no way in hell she’d let me get the COVID vaccine. It’s kinda ironic that she’s Catholic and antivax, but apparently until I’m sixteen I can get the vaccine
Pfizer shot was recently approved for 12-15 year olds and Moderna will be soon but if you live in the US as a 15 yr old you'll need parental consent unless you live in OR, AL, DC but parental consent may be able to get waived by the provider in WA, ID, AR, TN, NC if they feel you are mature enough to make the decision, there's no specific age cutoff but in RI & SC you have to wait until 16 to not need parental consent.. Other states, no, you have to get parental consent until 18.
www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccination-and-parental-consent/#
Did you get it?
Not yet, because the places offering are far away from my house. Not to mention the fact that I’d need a reason to go out in the first place
My great aunt can't get vaccinated because she's allergic to a common ingredient among vaccines
My mother got me and my brother vaccinated when we were more toddler age than babies, cause she was worried about our immune system not being able to handle it so young. Otherwise, she's wary about some vaccines but get the required ones done.
i almost wasnt able to go into 7th grade because my mom didnt want me vaccinated, my sister got me vaccinated. my mom also thought vaccines caused autism- ._.
I'd like to hear the reverse of this
I am so glad my grandma didn’t become anti-vaxx until my dad was already an adult and I was already a fully-vaccinated teen. I just hope her conspiracy theories about vaccines haven’t spread to my cousins who are having children.
The question is how did they survive to their adult age
The only obstacle that came with getting my shots when I was a kid was a fear of needles.
My mother has in the time between then, graduated from medical, worked 10 years in the field, and SOMEHOW became skeptical of the COVID vaccine.
Dafuq
1:24
Bruh, arent you born with that, you can just get it lmao
20:46 The Dad is the real hero there the mom fought the dad for taking the kid to the hospital when he was peeing blood that might as well be a crime for neglectful parent