I've always been curious as to the origin of animus magic, some of it may have just been solved. 👀In the world of fantasy, anything is possible! Question of the day: What's a song you just can't get out of your head? My answer: Kamikaze, Dead Walk, and Sentimental Surgery by RedHook, and pretty much just any Lady Gaga song. RedHook is my favorite band, and Lady Gaga is my favorite singer! I'll never stop listening to their stuff, it's so awesome.
A headcannon of mine is that firescales in the past were able to control how hot their scales could be and they were assassinated when they were cool but there were no more firescales left when Peril was born so there was Noone to teach her how to control her powers
i think it's just that firescales are super, super rare: it only rarely happens to twin dragons in the same egg(which is a rare thing in of itself)in one tribe-so there were like, what, 15 firescales in all of history-im exaggerating of course, but still.
i agree with that but instead of all of them being k!IIed most of them got k!IIed but the remaining ones made their scales go cold and made their offspring’s scales go cold so they could stay hidden (in this case kestrel could have been a firescale without knowing)
Fun fact: Darkstalker did not end IceWing animus magic. This is because Diamond's sister who is mentioned in Legends also has a possible chance of having IceWing animus dragonets. So Darkstalker just lowered the chance
YASS! I didn't know much of Queen Diamond because I haven't read the winglets, but I was always confused how the IceWing animus genes were just, gone from one dragon being taken. Like what about siblings, uncles, aunties, anything, I assumed that their was a way, but I wasn't sure how. Also poor Darkstalker 😭😭 he didn't take it, if anyone were to blame it's Arctic, just pointing out
@@maddisonbarrett yes, poor darkstalker. all he did was attempt genocide over him throwing a childish tantrum, brainwashed dragons, lied to basically everyone and was just plain irredeemable to the very end, but yeah, poor him sarcasm aside: the icewings didn't hate darkstalker because he took it, they hate him because he killed arctic, which removed any chance of him returning to continue the animus bloodline, lord knows darkstalker isn't the type to help other tribes, especially icewings
I've always noticed that Animi tend to hatch near the Brightest Night. Diamond, Arctic, Albatross, Fathom, and Darkstalker all hatched withing 100 years of a Brightest Night. Turtle and Stonemover both hatched within that time aswell. I think that may also play into this.
That's really interesting! It could definitely play a part. After all, Tui wanted animus magic to be very rare, and I think that would add to the exclusiveness of it.
I really wish they expanded on animus magic abilities and limits. I also think that RainWings would have a good chance in the sense that there is also Aurora Australis in the southern hemisphere.
I think that the rainwings didn't get animus magic is bc they live under lots of trees which normally stop them from seeing the sky unless you're in a clearing and that you need access to the full sky to get powers but rainwings normally just get dappled light and some clearings in the rainforest. The icewings, however, don't have any trees or anything so they have the full sky and that's why they took in all the energy of the aurora. Well that's just my opinion
My headcannon is that icewings actually migrated veeeerrrrrry early from a new continent in the north where its arctic and icy. Thats why they’re so insanely different from the other tribes (blue blood, frost breath, cold body temperatures). I think they brought animus powers with them from a place where the auroras Are stronger and more common (which is why they cant get powers this way on Pyrrha, the auroras arent as strong). If a couple pyrrian dragons can fly to pantala and create whole new species, icewings bringing magic from essentially the North Pole is totally plausible lol
The theory of the origins of animus magic truly does have a few holes. But as to why IceWings don't have animus magic anymore, you've explained quite nicely Moon! In Harry Potter we have Squibs, people with magical ancestry but no magic at all - they're "magic gene" diluted to the point of being inactive. And from a recent series I've read (the Red Queen series, by Victoria Aveyard), they've mentioned that powers can arise from a random genetic mutation, and maybe this mutation doesn't happen much, if at all, in Pyrrhia anymore because the dragons had split into tribes (like Moon said). Whatever it is, at the end of the day, it's fantasy. Not everything's supposed to make sense, and that's the charm of the genre; the wonder comes from things we aren't even able to fathom about. And thank you SO MUCH, MOON! I feel so honoured having been featured in your video! - Timeseeker
Whatever Tui Sutherland makes the origin of animus magic, I hope she uses celestial events as the source of all the dragons abilities. Because I love the idea of the celestial events! I absolutely loved this theory and how you explained it! :D
I always just thought the tribes just. . . Y'know, _had_ animus. I think that the main tribes the have animus were the IceWings, SandWings, SkyWings and SeaWings. I just assumed it was genetic and the animus was just from when the tribes started splitting off afterish the scorching. Personally I think that Animus magic was developed before the scorching, because there weren't any tribes it was harder to survive, and if the children had Animus magic they were more likely to survive alone. I also think that back then they just had a sense of _knowing_ how to use it. It's like smiling. You do it all the time but didn't learn it. You just _knew_ . And then after the scorching, they lost that sense of knowing they have it and they can use it, so nothing knew. They were just ordinary dragons that occasionally had things happen around them that were strange. So the animus gene was undetected untill one day in the IceWings, another thing happens around the Ice Kingdom when this dragon speaks, but they all realise their power. So they start that project. I think the sense of knowing also turned into the faint tingling of the talons Turtle mentioned.
That sounds cool! I like to think that ancient animus where never really something that people talked about because they where afraid that other tribes would try and force them into using their power for them (which is what happened with Albatross and others) so they tried to hide it and maybe to connect my theory to yours is the best way to keep a secret? Is to not know it, so they could tell anyone!
I think that Albatross may have gotten his powers from a solar eclipse. If we're going with the celestial events theory, I think he was hatched under three full moons- one eclipsing the sun. We know that eclipses can affect dragon powers, because Tui confirmed that nightwings hatched under lunar eclipses could project their own thoughts rather than read others'.
@@INDI_1711i made one like a few months ago called Eclipse but that was before I realised they could project their thoughts. I wanted her to have mystery powers which are unknown because they are even rarer than three full moons. I assumed that they happened ever 500 years or something. Oh well there goes my plans
I think animi was an original power from the first dragons, and after they split into multiple tribes, certain animi went with certain tribes, passing down the gene. Seawings got their power earlier in the generations, maybe diamond's mother/grandmother's time, where an Icewing bred with Seawing royalty, and the gene didn't show up till Albatross. I read a theory where Icewings are dragons from the moon, which could be where they got their animus magic from, or the originals of the tribe. The Icewings were careful and only let the animi rule, and thus making the royal lineage. Sandwings also originated like the Icewings, but they were more careless and there weren't many animi after the first few; they either didnt want children or the children didn't have animus magic for a few generations till Jerboa. Again, with Skywings, they got it from the originals. They were careless and animi bred with who they liked. After a few generations, animus magic mutated to firescales. Seeing how dangerous the two were, they killed both firescales and animi after hatching. For how Peril was born, in her family tree there were many animus/firescales, being almost direct decendants form the originals, thus making her a firescale. Obviously, Kestrel didn't really know about it, as animus magic and firescales are more of a "wtf, no no no shut up" subject, so she didnt her family had the gene.
That honestly makes a lot of sense. And like several people pointed out: Animus magic isn't gone, it was just the current users in Arc 2 that are unable to perform feats of magic anymore. But any next gen animus dragons can be born, it's just unlikely due to the gene being spread out amongst the 7 Phyrrian tribes (plus the 3 tribes from Pantala ex. Leafspeak)
Let me expand on this: Our sun functions on 11 year cycles. We are currently in a solar maximum, where aurora is quite a bit more common. So, what if, the WoF world’s sun functions on a 5-2 thousand year cycle? What if there was a maximum around the time of the scorching, again around Darkstalker’s time, and maybe once again around the modern era? Just a thought.
It is certainly a plausible theory, in fact, it helps me develop a believable theory as to why my Icewing/Skywing hybrid OC is an animus. As you said (pretending that the celestial theory is true), auroras don’t affect Icewings anymore, but the solstice still affects Skywings. So, I’m now thinking about how the combination of the two events affect Storm (my OC) to the point that she developed animus powers. Her egg being laid while there were auroras and hatching on the solstice day. Storm had a sibling, but he didn’t make it due to genetic mutations because the combination of a fire dragon and ice dragon didn’t go too well. He had the build of the Skywings but he had the Icewing breath. His Skywing body couldn’t handle the extreme cold that dwelt in his chest. Storm, who had more of an Icewing build than her brother, would’ve turned out to be a firescales if it wasn’t for the ice and the fire canceling each other out. But because she was exposed to both unique celestial events, she developed animus powers.
You can't think of Albatross's light scales as a sign of animus magic. Even though Anemone's scales are light too, hers were like that before Turtle gave her animus magic. And Turtle's scales are not lighter.
If you're referring to why I mentioned them, it was just because some people thought Albatross was a Sea-Ice hybrid, hence his lighter scales. It wasn't in relation to his magic; sorry for any confusion if so!
Interesting theory. The base concept was great until you got into genetics. Auroras don’t emit radiation, they are radiation, and the atmosphere prevents any of said radiation from getting within 90 km of you. All that reaches you from an aurora is photons, not radiation. Even if the dragon planet has a weak atmosphere (which it doesn’t because it has to cross a certain threshold to sustain any life, so don’t even argue that) the radiation wouldn’t be near the dosage to cause genetic mutation. In fact, nothing would even happen because EM radiation isn’t what causes genetic mutations, ionizing radiation is, so the entire theory means nothing. In order to mutate genes, the dragons would have to be hit by a solar flare or GRB, which would vaporize everything, or a pulsar which would split the planet in half. It just doesn’t make sense.
Gamma rays are both ionizing and EM radiation. They can cause auroras and pierce the atmosphere. So it would be wrong to say that auroras cause genetic mutation, auroras can nevertheless be indicators of presence of powerful gamma ray sources, which not only create the auroras but also cause mutations. The huge overwhelming problem with the theory, however, is that there is no reason whatsoever why genetic mutations would cause a dragon to manipulate the universe with language. That requires reprogramming the entire universe.
I think that twins such as peril and sky; sometime during the growing process, and with the sunlight thing, and going off that another person thinks they used to be able to control their abilitys, I think not only did peril get fire scales, but she took all the fire out of sky, giving him none, and that’s why her scales are “hotter than a normal dragonbreath”
I was waiting for this one to be posted! Such a great video, but I am curious on how the SeaWings in the royal bloodline developed the bioluminescent scales on their wings! Did the family get picked to be royalty because of it, or was it bred into the family? It also makes me wonder if the other animi in the other tribes have strange things going on with them too!
I think it's a symbol of the possibility of magic- We know nightwings that can read minds have teardrop scales, and dragons like Fatespeaker who can't read minds (but were close to being able to) still have them sometimes. It could be similar to that- animus magic only runs in the royal SeaWing family, so it could say "Hey, look, we have these because we could be magical!"
That's a really good question! I can imagine dragons early on choosing the dragons with the royal pattern to rule because they could have thought it was a good luck symbol or some kind of sign that they were meant to rule. It may have started out as an unnatural mutation on one or two dragons as the tribes started to form into the versions we know them as now.
Or there was a coup de etat/tribal unification thousands of years ago, similar to the sandwings, and the spiral dragons employed eugenics to establish a hierarchy. This would result in spiral patterned dragons to be recognized as royal without the issue of inbreeding. Would make sense given the macabre history of the seawings.
@@nanyabusiness4342im pretty sure Tui confirmed that nightwings born under eclipses can emit their thoughts into other dragons brains instead of reading minds
The SeaWings must have got theirs from thunderstorms because they shoot electricity from the sky,like a rock from a slingshot. The electricity might have affected the dragon to have powers. SandWings might have got theirs from the sun. Really cool theories
The only problem with this is that if they even were able to have children, the chance of a dragon eating, squashing or accidentally killing the scavenger is way too high. Plus most dragons would consider scavengers at friends at most.
this has so many holes in it i cant even begin to explain how absurd this is. no offense, but this sounds more like rule 34 fan fiction, for starters, that's not how it works, size difference and reptilian biology make "that" impossible, plus, no. just no, Tui wouldn't allow that to be canon in a KID to TEENAGE/YOUNG ADULT book series, the only thing that MIGHT be possible is getting it from eating a scavenger, but even that's pretty unlikely, and i suppose its POSSIBLE, but extremely unlikely that a scavenger knew they were magic and changed to a dragon form, but that's literally VERY specific circumstances that would even begin to make this likely
Maybe seawings got it from the tidal waves flooding from the full moon. (When the full moon come, often times homes and beaches flood frok the tides changing)
It could be that ALL dragons have animus dragons but they just never got found out. It’s obvious that all dragons have a common ancestor that was like a mixture of all the current types of dragons.
i find it weird that there were no more icewng animi since darkstalker has an icewing aunt (i cant remember for sure) and diamond couldve had more children or just enchanted some1 to be an animus
The wasy Jerboa's spell that got rid of animus magoc was writen just to take away the current generation's magic, so it can come back. If you think im lying go read book 14 and read Jerboa's spell very carefully
I would like to think the tribes when they where born all had it then it got more rare in there geans and only a little where left, and I think how they chose the queens back then is if they had it and they where one of the leaders in the scorching , HEy but that’s a Throury a WOF throury😅 sorry for the bad spelling
According to Legends: Darkstalker, Albatross, aside from his odd scale colors, also had unusually dark eyes and an "funny-shaped tail". Maybe a member of the IceWing Royal Family interbred with the SeaWings for a sort of diplomatic marriage and over a few generations those trait became less likley, but not impossible to appear in offspring? IDK tho, that my headcanon.
Great ideas! I don’t know if you take video ideas and feel free to not use these, but I had these thoughts lying around and though I’d share them A few what if ideas 1. What if Thorn never bought Qibli? Would Qibli have eventually won over his mom? Would he have worked for Vulture? Become an assassin? Would he have still gone to Jade Mountain and met Moon? Who is Qibli’s dad? 2. What if Deathbringer’s mom, Qickstrike survived? Would Six Claws have died? What happens to Dune? The War? Glory? 3. What if the Dragonets of Destiny were OP? Hear me out, Clay and Glory stay the same, however Tsunami is born an animus. Sunny is born with her tail barb and since she’s part Nightwing and born on the brightest night, she gets both moon born powers and a boost, also she’s an animus since her dad is. Starflight gets both moon powers and a boost plus animus magic since he could carry the gene. So, are the dragonets still the same? Friendships? Personalities? Are the evil? Good? In between? What about Sunny and Starflight’s relationship now? Anyway 😅 just some ideas
@@Dogloverlikesdoge anytime! My mind goes to weird places when I’m bored. I love your content and trust you the most to make something great of any idea
heres a what if: what if darkstaker wasnt evil or a tyrant (never killed arctic, planned for domination etc), was still immortal, and instead of being asleep he was out in the world (probably in disguise) what would he be doing during the sandwing war?
@@lilybethwalters4433 and considering he IS able to see futures its possible that even if the nightwings remained in their kingdom he would see the importance of the dod, so its likely he would still try to make events happen at least similar to how they would in the books to an extent, but likely without the "taking over rainwing territory". and not gonna lie, i would LOVE to see scarlet's face if darkstalker was a guardian for the dod
This is a wonderful theory! And it is kinda better than my own because the gods wanted to torture or bless their dragons and the genes spread throughout the tribes 😀
I love your content! And you are one of the most similar TH-camrs to me! And I am so happy that you tell us this information that can make us happy about the things we love! And you make them better with how you tell stories.
If you’ve played evolution evade in roblox this might make sense cosmos gave them it he cause wanted a challenge if you don’t know who cosmos is he’s some sort of cosmic god that made a bunch of inanimate objects start moving and attacking humans This is a joke btw
Ohhh, I like this theory. I definitely think it could be a possibility. At least for like how the gene may have came into existence. I got my own theory as to why only the seawing and icewing royal families have animus, and why it seems, from what I can gather from the books, that any dragon from the skywing tribe could have animus magic and why they were disposed of when discovered.
@@LunaRealized I know that. All I said was I liked the theory? In the confines of the books it makes sense. The theory is ground in something in the books, with nightwing powers triggering due to moonlight.
Aren't sea wing eggs hatched underwater with royal eggs in a safer area that's somehow heated to stay warm? If there's magma much deeper down creating thermals to hatch the eggs, could there occasionally be super changes to the magma on the day they hatch?
Albatross is the first Seawing animus, and he's half icewing. The Darkstalker legends mentions this. A royal seawing and an animus icewing had Albatross, so the animus gene was carried to him.
When did tui confirm that albatross isn't a hybrid? I've been seeing people say that the opposite is true, and that tui confirmed he WAS. I'm so confused, so if anyone has a source, please tell me
XbOxKaT, a DeviantArt user, got to meet Tui back in 2017 and interviewed her. One of the questions she asked was about the Albatross being a hybrid theory, and Tui confirmed it to be false. According to the post and Tui's response Albatross is probably not a hybrid. His colors are natural pigmentations. I go more into depth in this video: th-cam.com/video/wjyiO-y1y6w/w-d-xo.html
My personal nerd headcanon for all the biological things that don't make sense is just early use of animus magic. Dragons having 6 and 8 limbs? Animus magic. Icewings having blue blood? Animus magic. I like to believe an early Icewing Animus gave them blue blood to help them blend in with the ice even when they're injured. For the limbs, I think a very early animus created an extra set of limbs to help with hunting. I think they probably started out more like wyverns, but an early animus decided hunting would be easier with front limbs to grab onto prey instead of hunting like birds of prey do. The 8 limbs was just a mutation from the animus spell. I love Wings of Fire, but it's impossible for a vertebrate animal to have 6 or 8 limbs when every other vertebrate is shown to have the normal 4. But that would also imply Animus magic existing before the scorching, so idk. Other biological attributes that could have been a result of animus magic could be Seawings having gills (Every land vertebrate that has gone back into the ocean has adapted to come back up for air, never re-evolving to have gills), Sandwings having a scorpion tail (It would make sense for an early sandwing animus to give the tribe a venomous tail me thinks), Icewings having frostbreath (I can't think of a way fire-breathing could have adapted into frostbreath, especially since fire-breathing would be a good adaptation to have in such a cold environment), and inter-tribe mating in general. The dragons in WoF are far too biologically different to logically be able to reproduce with each other. I think maybe an early inter-tribe couple, one being an animus, cast a spell so that any dragons may have an egg regardless of tribe. And so not every little thing that doesn't make much sense is just "oh an animus dragon did that", I think the meddling of DNA with animus magic caused mutations to occur more frequently.
I might be wrong but I think Tui has said that Seawings got animis dragons from hybrid and potentially icewings as well so it might’ve been a genetic mutation from a tribe we haven’t seen yet.
I think that animus powers were given to some dragons from the tribes that have animus's. Maybe they were exploring together and found someone/something that gave them powers? It could also have something to do with human/ scavenger experimentation
I mean it does kinda make sense since prince Winter managed to be able to sense animus magic like the tunnel and pyrite. So maybe his powers were just really weakened since he didn't hatch under any celestial events.
Hi doge, I haven't watched your videos or even read WoF in a while, I was previously Almighty Rainbow Echidna, VirtualClicx Roblox (i was in one of your theories last year!), astromerical, then i believe i lost interest in the subject. I just have to say I've been catching up and I've read book 15 and your videos are amazing as always!
@@Dogloverlikesdoge No problem! This video was great and I might make a book on the origin of animus! Now I'm going to search for tear lists! Great video, and I do wish some other tribes had animus magic. Wouldn't animus RainWings be cool! Venom + The magic to turn someone into a strawberry. YES PLEASE!
I really liked your head cannon on animus magic it's very interesting I think Icewings getting Animus magic from Aurora's is probably the case I also think that Firscales can Only hatch in the summer because it's so hot and can't hatch on a rainy day so even if that's there hatch date when it's raining they delay it I also have a theory on Leafwings I think that Clearsight gave them there Leafspeak Now I know that might sound crazy but hear me out when Sequoia was talking about the legend of the hive she said "our Flamesilks fought them off" but Leafwings arrived on Pantala at the same time as Beetlewings/Silkwings so what if Clearsight mated with a few (or maybe one) Leafwings which gave them there Leafspeak which is why it might be risky to keep breeding Leafspeaks together because they would be closer related than other Leafwings descended from Clearsight another reason why this could be is because Willow had a dream of Sundew being in the Hives so it could be Possible that she is a descendant of Clearsight as well (I know it sounds weird because their dating but Willow doesn't have Leafspeak so I think that could mean she is way more distantly related to Sundew that someone like Mandrake to the point where them dating is perfectly safe and Possibly descended from Clearsight and a whole nother Leafwings that Sundew) so I hope I explained that detailed enough but yeah Leafspeaks probably came from Clearsight
Honestly, I doubt it because they definitely would have recorded that in their history and abused it as much as they could have. People like Cottonmouth would have done ANYTHING to have access to an animus if there were any humans with it.
my personal theory after watching this video is that animus magic is similar to magnatisim. this would explain how it is passed down, like how non - magnetic materials gain polarity after being close to powerful magnets for too long. this would also explain how objects are enchanted, and how they keep their original enchantment indefinitely after the original animus was dead, although it wouldn't explain how the enchantments actually do the things that we see them do. this would also confirm your theory of arora causing animus magic, as strong enough radiation can polarize objects. that means that is theoretically possible to have someone gain animus magic if you stick them in a nuclear reactor for long enough. in any other situation you would need the contamination to build up after a few generations. another explanation for icewings gaining animus magic is that the earths magnetic field is strongest at the poles.
I think it’s the Skyfire comet that caused animus magic because they landed in the Kingdom of Sand and the Kingdom of the Sea, both known with animus magic. It could be called Skyfire because of the Skywings, who could possibly be the first animus dragons. I think it landed in places where animus magic originated and where animus dragons still are alive within the tribe
It was confirmed by Tui that he isn't a hybrid. A fan back in 2017 was able to ask her some questions regarding the series, and one of the things she brought up was if Albatross was a hybrid. Tui said he most likely isn't, and that his coloring is natural SeaWing pigmentation.
have a theory on this but its a bit out there but i think it makes sense? lmk if u understand. beware because its gonna be quite alot of writing so get comfortable. before the scotching all the "tribes" were jumbled up. there were no definite tribes, just dragons all with unique powers. as known in the series, space & celestial objects/events give dragons powers. i think that maybe there was a lost ability/power sometime before or maybe even during the scorching when the dragons began separating into tribes. i believe this ability came from the hatching under the third moon since it is unknown what power it provides. i think that if a dragon was hatched under 3 moons their blood would be blessed with celestial abilities. these celestial abilities are: mindreading, prophecy and animus magic. and if the dragon blessed with celestial blood went on to have dragonets, they would pass the gene down, meaning that their future dragonet would have the ability 2 harvest the powers of the moons (therefore if their dragonet hatched under 1 moon they would be blessed with either prophecy or mindreading, hatched under 2 moons they'd be blessed with both mindreading and prophecy.) and that receiving the animus gene was far more rare. a dragon could not posses it unless they were thrice born or if one of their ancestors had celestial blood and if a dragon possessed celestial blood they may or may not have animus magic. if that was true that would explain why only nightwings in current time are the only tribe that can harvest the power of the moons. i think that is why nightwings have stars under their wings. just like how if a nightwing is born with a teardrop scale they possess the power to read minds? well i think that if a dragon was born with stars under their wings they posses celestial blood. when the scorching happened and the dragons separated into tribes that the dragons with celestial blood were bred into the nightwing tribe. however some of the other dragons with celestial blood were bred into other tribes but overtime that gene became less and less powerful, making it so eventually the only tribes left with weak celestial genes were: icewings, skywings, seawings, sandwings and of course the nightwings. the nightwing tribe contained the most celestial blood while others only had a few traces. overtime the power of the third moon became weaker and weaker. making it so less and less dragons from other tribes not containing celestial genes could no longer be granted with celestial powers hatching under 3 moons. and also but in the tribes that did posses it (besides nightwings) the celestial gene itself became less and less powerful. making it so less and less dragons hatched under moonlight could harvest the power of the moons at birth such as prophecy and mindreading. but since animus magic was the strongest and rarest power it still remained in their genes. eventually the other tribes' ability to harvest the power of the moons faded, leaving them with only the power of animus magic. which had also began coming less and less powerful overtime. making it so using the power would have consequence as of before when a dragon could use it as freely and loosely as they wanted while suffering little to no consequences. the only tribe who's celestial blood remained strong and their ability 2 harvest the powers of the moons (mindreading/prophecy) were the nightwings. a sign of possessing strong celestial blood i believe are the stars under their scales. similar too how a dragon with mindreading abilities is born with a teardrop scale beside their eyes. ik your probably wondering now "well if animus magic was the strongest celestial power, then how come the other tribes ended up with animi and not the nightwings?" and i dont really have a clear answer, do have one theory however; celestial powers can be different for each bloodline. it depending on how bright the moons were at hatching and if their egg was fully exposed in the moonlight or not, for example: if an egg was hatched fully exposed under the moonlight when all 3 moons were full then that dragonet would have strong celestial powers and blood, allowing animus magic to reoccur more often in their bloodline, but if a dragon was hatched only partially exposed to the triple moonlight then their celestial powers and blood would be weaker. making it so the animus gene doesn't reoccur as often or if it's particularly weak; not at all. so back to the nightwings. i believe that since their tribe possessed weaker celestial blood, the amount of celestial dragons in the tribe made up for the weakness of the moon's powers but not the animus powers. making it so the ability to harvest the power of the moons was still a strong genetic, but receiving the animus magic gene was next to impossible, causing it to eventually fizzle out. in the other tribes, since the more powerful celestial dragons were bred in, it was the opposite. strong enough to pass on the animus gene but not strong enough to keep the moon's powers gene. (this is because the animus gene is stronger then the moon's powers gene.) i know this theory is kind of a far stretch, but if you think about it, it would make sense. my finger hurts now anyways so let me know what you think in the replies. if u have anything 2 add on 2 my theory then reply to this comment with ur add on :) id love too hear some feedback and opinions! - _.drag0nn3rdxx
It's unfortunate that Tui never revealed the true origins of Animus Magic. However, I believe that this is a good Theory, and maybe, just maybe, Tui might give us a explanation. (Unless she's like Scott Cawthorn)
Animus magic could only be gotten from auroras during the scorching, and the pantala dragons didnt arrive until after that time if i remember correctly
I have a theory of my own about the IceWing’s animus magic, Queen Diamond had a niece (SnowFox) and then Snowfox had a daughter, so in theory the present day IceWings should have animus magic
did you guys notice that in the flames of hope there was a red and black fire breathing dragon in the scorching, i dont think she was a hybrid. i think that the dragons that could live in the different environment moved there to create a kingdom, like rainwings maybe not all of them had venom or complete color changing scales after the scorching. like clearsight, she could see the future and maybe some of her children could read minds or see the future but there wasnt enough nightwings there for the powers to stay for long and soon her descendants were their own tribe and what if seawing and icewings were one tribe once but then they split and the majority of animi dragons went north while myb some stayed but there wasnt enough animus blood for there to be animus for a long time, and have you noticed how when animus conjures something from nothing it doesnt seem to be coming from nothing like it coming from another world maybe? what if some dragons can sort of see it cause they have some animus blood but not enough for them to be and animus but they dont know how to describe it and never say anything and then two get together and have children and then they have an animus child, maybe that how albatross was an animus. dragons that had some small measly amount of animus blood until enough of it pooled together into a dragonet that they had. like scraping a bowl lined with batter until you have enough for one cupcake.
I also feel like all tribes should have royal markings. Maybe the night wings could have few golden scattered scales under their wings. Rainwings with bigger ruffs, sandwings with bigger tail barbs or markings, icewings with more spikes than most, and idk what for mudwings
TBH I do kinda believe the reason the Seawings my have lighter shades of blue and green (ALSO Anemone's pale pink colors) is because the Seawings may have different tribe scale DNA in them. Like maybe for Anemone's pink color could be of Rainwing DNA or maybe a a weird pinkish-reddish color for Skywing DNA? And for the paler blues and greens could be Icewing DNA. Or this could be just a weird scale mutation, but that can't really explain Anemone's pale pink colors cause the Seawings have no hint of pink or any other colors then shades of blue and green. I'm not saying all Seawings are hybrids but I do think that the Seawings may have Multitribe ancestors.
I’m imagining that an aurora will fall on the rainforest and all the rainwings will try to match their scales to it meanwhile an animus rainwing is born and will probably never find out about their powers 😂
With how albatross got animus magic even though he is not a icewing-seawing hybrid, I have a theory. So I think that albatross had a recessive animus magic gene. The way recessive genes work is their are two parents who have the gene but it is quiet non active, if both parents have that recessive gene their children will have that gene pop up. Ex. two parents with brown hair having children with blonde hair. So I believe that somewhere in albatrosses family their was an ancestor who had a celestial event or a ice-sea hybrid that brought that gene in the family, and it wasn't until albatrosses parents had eggs that the gene came out. Because both parents had that animus gene but it wasn't active until those quiet genes came together to get the animus power in albatross, hence albatrosses power that was sudden and unknown. That's my theory anyway.
One question pops in my head with this theory. If aurora borealis does grant magic powers if hatched under it. Wouldn’t that mean almost every ice wing would have it? Hear me out on earth and other planets aurora borealis is very common it lasts for months on earth August to May. Now I know earth is not like the dragon planet but unless the core of the dragon planet is cooling down then it should be common up north
Whenever I've read darkstalker or runnaway in the winglets quartet, I always get confused on how they lost the magic. Queen diamond had two kids right? Artic AND snowfox? So why didn't snowfox's kids carry the gene? ( if I'm confused just tell me nicely) : ]
My theory is that the animus magic came from the NightWings being born under three moons, and yes I know the NightWings basically debunked that, but since there aren’t many three moon NightWings I assume, and only one in the books, they can’t be so sure. Basically the NightWings then started to become hybrids from breeding, and then the hybrid genes eventually died off. But the animus genes were carried, since I also think genetics work. Also, for more supportive reasoning, the Pantalan dragons don’t get animus magic.
The hybrid genes could’ve actually made the Pantalan dragons eventually, but by then the animus magic died off. And maybe there still is hybrid genes, and that made some of the other tribes and they weren’t all there in the beginning.
This makes sense but I think Albatross could have got his magic from IceWings but not as a hybrid. if he were a hybrid hed show more IceWing traits and one of his parents or grandparents would have to be a pure IceWing. No, I think maybe centuries back, maybe there could have been a Sea-Ice hybrid. Tui saying Albatross isn't a hybrid doesnt mean he doesn’t have ancient IceWing amcestory. And genes can stay dormant if they are recessive and there is a dominant gene present. I think the Animus gene is most likely recessive not only considering rare it is but also that it can be passed down through generations with some generations not even having the power. Take. Arctic and Foesalyer for example. Lets say the Animus gene is a and whatever gene stops it from being active is A. so if we made a Punnet Square for Arctic and Foeslayer, Arctic would aa because theres no dominant gene to cover up thr recessive one. Foeslayer would obviously be AA bwcause she doesnt have animus magic and the NightWimgs never did until the point. This does have some holes cux Foeslayer wpuldnt need to havr the dominat gene to snuff out Animus genes because there is no gene to snuff out but for simplicoty lets just say she has thr dominat gene. Putting this in a Punnet Square actually doesnt work bevause you get a 100% chance of just passing down thr gene but no offspring a tually getting the power. Animus mahic cant be dominant bevause then it would always be active when it is passed down. But what if Foeslayer doesnt have the hypothetic Animus blocker gene? This is where I'm stuck but heres where it gets even more interesting: when you actually give Foeslayer Aa, meaning she carries the Animus gene, this is what you get this: 50% Animus 50% Carrying Animus gene meaning that if Foeslayer actually had Animus ancestors and carried the gene, that is the only way for Darkstalker tk be an Animus and Whiteout to carry the gene. With this new information we can now suggest that perhaos, the NightWings DID once posess Animus magic. A VERY long time ago and overtime youd be left with non-Animi and NightWings carrying the gene but not the power. I just realised this has nothing to do with Albatross but whoops I guess i just acvidentally dosvovered something lmao
The reason why sky wings don’t like animus dragons in the tribe is they stopped having that bloodline because of albatross they didn’t want them going crazy
Scorching is not a celestial event. Scorching is Dragons rising against the Humans and their Technology. Animus magic could have something to do with biotechnology. If you could break the universe to the point where you can program and reprogram the way it works, up to exceptions and certain unnatural feats being linked to celestial events, well, animus magic could exist just like that. Scorching in and of itself is extremely interesting and not at all understood. Something triggered Scorching. Something the humans did, something that the Dragons could not just tolerate.
I have a few what ifs WHAT IF ONLY MOON GOT CAPTURED BY WASP WHAT IF JAMBU WAS SENT TO PANTALA INSTEAD OF PINEAPPLE WHAT IF MANGROVE WAS SENT TO PANTALA INSTEAD OF PINEAPPLE WHAT IF FEIRCETEETH KEPT SUBNY AS A HOSTAGE WHAT IF THE FALSE DRAGONETS SWAPPED WITH THE REAL DRAGONETS WHAT IF KESTREL SUCCEEDED IN KILLING GLORY WHAT IF SCARLET AND RUBY SWAPPED PLACES
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I've always been curious as to the origin of animus magic, some of it may have just been solved. 👀In the world of fantasy, anything is possible!
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A headcannon of mine is that firescales in the past were able to control how hot their scales could be and they were assassinated when they were cool but there were no more firescales left when Peril was born so there was Noone to teach her how to control her powers
Makes sense to be honest
i think it's just that firescales are super, super rare: it only rarely happens to twin dragons in the same egg(which is a rare thing in of itself)in one tribe-so there were like, what, 15 firescales in all of history-im exaggerating of course, but still.
i agree with that but instead of all of them being k!IIed most of them got k!IIed but the remaining ones made their scales go cold and made their offspring’s scales go cold so they could stay hidden (in this case kestrel could have been a firescale without knowing)
I actually have a fairly similar headcanon, though I think even when they’re at their coolest they can still burn you.
Like moon with nightwing powers
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fact: Darkstalker did not end IceWing animus magic. This is because Diamond's sister who is mentioned in Legends also has a possible chance of having IceWing animus dragonets. So Darkstalker just lowered the chance
Yeah, and also Snowfox carries the gene.
Which makes one wonder, what did happen to the ice wing animus genetics?
YASS! I didn't know much of Queen Diamond because I haven't read the winglets, but I was always confused how the IceWing animus genes were just, gone from one dragon being taken. Like what about siblings, uncles, aunties, anything, I assumed that their was a way, but I wasn't sure how.
Also poor Darkstalker 😭😭 he didn't take it, if anyone were to blame it's Arctic, just pointing out
@@maddisonbarrett yes, poor darkstalker. all he did was attempt genocide over him throwing a childish tantrum, brainwashed dragons, lied to basically everyone and was just plain irredeemable to the very end, but yeah, poor him
sarcasm aside: the icewings didn't hate darkstalker because he took it, they hate him because he killed arctic, which removed any chance of him returning to continue the animus bloodline, lord knows darkstalker isn't the type to help other tribes, especially icewings
@@nanyabusiness4342 Bruh 😂I think they would've also blamed Darkstalker just cause, but yes that makes sense
I've always noticed that Animi tend to hatch near the Brightest Night.
Diamond, Arctic, Albatross, Fathom, and Darkstalker all hatched withing 100 years of a Brightest Night. Turtle and Stonemover both hatched within that time aswell. I think that may also play into this.
That's really interesting! It could definitely play a part. After all, Tui wanted animus magic to be very rare, and I think that would add to the exclusiveness of it.
A brightest night is 100 years
@@pakistanmemes782 I don't think we were every told how often a brightest night occurs, but you could be right
@@pakistanmemes782 The last canon brightest night was 2000 odd years ago, so we'll have to go with that.
I think in book 5 it said the Brightess Night had come [100 years?] early,
I really wish they expanded on animus magic abilities and limits. I also think that RainWings would have a good chance in the sense that there is also Aurora Australis in the southern hemisphere.
I don't think there are any true limits
I think that the rainwings didn't get animus magic is bc they live under lots of trees which normally stop them from seeing the sky unless you're in a clearing and that you need access to the full sky to get powers but rainwings normally just get dappled light and some clearings in the rainforest. The icewings, however, don't have any trees or anything so they have the full sky and that's why they took in all the energy of the aurora. Well that's just my opinion
My headcannon is that icewings actually migrated veeeerrrrrry early from a new continent in the north where its arctic and icy. Thats why they’re so insanely different from the other tribes (blue blood, frost breath, cold body temperatures). I think they brought animus powers with them from a place where the auroras Are stronger and more common (which is why they cant get powers this way on Pyrrha, the auroras arent as strong). If a couple pyrrian dragons can fly to pantala and create whole new species, icewings bringing magic from essentially the North Pole is totally plausible lol
The theory of the origins of animus magic truly does have a few holes. But as to why IceWings don't have animus magic anymore, you've explained quite nicely Moon! In Harry Potter we have Squibs, people with magical ancestry but no magic at all - they're "magic gene" diluted to the point of being inactive. And from a recent series I've read (the Red Queen series, by Victoria Aveyard), they've mentioned that powers can arise from a random genetic mutation, and maybe this mutation doesn't happen much, if at all, in Pyrrhia anymore because the dragons had split into tribes (like Moon said).
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Whatever Tui Sutherland makes the origin of animus magic, I hope she uses celestial events as the source of all the dragons abilities. Because I love the idea of the celestial events! I absolutely loved this theory and how you explained it! :D
Me too! I think that would be really cool, even if the dragons themselves didn't know about it.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video :D
I always just thought the tribes just. . . Y'know, _had_ animus. I think that the main tribes the have animus were the IceWings, SandWings, SkyWings and SeaWings. I just assumed it was genetic and the animus was just from when the tribes started splitting off afterish the scorching. Personally I think that Animus magic was developed before the scorching, because there weren't any tribes it was harder to survive, and if the children had Animus magic they were more likely to survive alone. I also think that back then they just had a sense of _knowing_ how to use it. It's like smiling. You do it all the time but didn't learn it. You just _knew_ . And then after the scorching, they lost that sense of knowing they have it and they can use it, so nothing knew. They were just ordinary dragons that occasionally had things happen around them that were strange. So the animus gene was undetected untill one day in the IceWings, another thing happens around the Ice Kingdom when this dragon speaks, but they all realise their power. So they start that project. I think the sense of knowing also turned into the faint tingling of the talons Turtle mentioned.
That sounds cool! I like to think that ancient animus where never really something that people talked about because they where afraid that other tribes would try and force them into using their power for them (which is what happened with Albatross and others) so they tried to hide it and maybe to connect my theory to yours is the best way to keep a secret? Is to not know it, so they could tell anyone!
I think that Albatross may have gotten his powers from a solar eclipse. If we're going with the celestial events theory, I think he was hatched under three full moons- one eclipsing the sun. We know that eclipses can affect dragon powers, because Tui confirmed that nightwings hatched under lunar eclipses could project their own thoughts rather than read others'.
Ooh, I can totally see that! A solar eclipse would be AWESOME
Ohhhh that’s awesome!! Now I want a lunar eclipse NightWing oc lol
@@INDI_1711i made one like a few months ago called Eclipse but that was before I realised they could project their thoughts. I wanted her to have mystery powers which are unknown because they are even rarer than three full moons. I assumed that they happened ever 500 years or something. Oh well there goes my plans
I think animi was an original power from the first dragons, and after they split into multiple tribes, certain animi went with certain tribes, passing down the gene.
Seawings got their power earlier in the generations, maybe diamond's mother/grandmother's time, where an Icewing bred with Seawing royalty, and the gene didn't show up till Albatross.
I read a theory where Icewings are dragons from the moon, which could be where they got their animus magic from, or the originals of the tribe. The Icewings were careful and only let the animi rule, and thus making the royal lineage.
Sandwings also originated like the Icewings, but they were more careless and there weren't many animi after the first few; they either didnt want children or the children didn't have animus magic for a few generations till Jerboa.
Again, with Skywings, they got it from the originals. They were careless and animi bred with who they liked. After a few generations, animus magic mutated to firescales. Seeing how dangerous the two were, they killed both firescales and animi after hatching. For how Peril was born, in her family tree there were many animus/firescales, being almost direct decendants form the originals, thus making her a firescale. Obviously, Kestrel didn't really know about it, as animus magic and firescales are more of a "wtf, no no no shut up" subject, so she didnt her family had the gene.
That honestly makes a lot of sense. And like several people pointed out: Animus magic isn't gone, it was just the current users in Arc 2 that are unable to perform feats of magic anymore. But any next gen animus dragons can be born, it's just unlikely due to the gene being spread out amongst the 7 Phyrrian tribes (plus the 3 tribes from Pantala ex. Leafspeak)
Let me expand on this: Our sun functions on 11 year cycles. We are currently in a solar maximum, where aurora is quite a bit more common. So, what if, the WoF world’s sun functions on a 5-2 thousand year cycle? What if there was a maximum around the time of the scorching, again around Darkstalker’s time, and maybe once again around the modern era? Just a thought.
Wow, I hadn't even thought about it like that! It's a totally valid point
That never occurred to me, and would make total sense as to why there hasn't been any new emergences of animus magic in so long
Albatross might not be half icewing, but maybe he was descended from them?
Well all dragons where 1 type at a t8mecso I guess so they just adapted to there new climate
It is certainly a plausible theory, in fact, it helps me develop a believable theory as to why my Icewing/Skywing hybrid OC is an animus. As you said (pretending that the celestial theory is true), auroras don’t affect Icewings anymore, but the solstice still affects Skywings. So, I’m now thinking about how the combination of the two events affect Storm (my OC) to the point that she developed animus powers.
Her egg being laid while there were auroras and hatching on the solstice day. Storm had a sibling, but he didn’t make it due to genetic mutations because the combination of a fire dragon and ice dragon didn’t go too well. He had the build of the Skywings but he had the Icewing breath. His Skywing body couldn’t handle the extreme cold that dwelt in his chest. Storm, who had more of an Icewing build than her brother, would’ve turned out to be a firescales if it wasn’t for the ice and the fire canceling each other out. But because she was exposed to both unique celestial events, she developed animus powers.
You can't think of Albatross's light scales as a sign of animus magic. Even though Anemone's scales are light too, hers were like that before Turtle gave her animus magic. And Turtle's scales are not lighter.
If you're referring to why I mentioned them, it was just because some people thought Albatross was a Sea-Ice hybrid, hence his lighter scales. It wasn't in relation to his magic; sorry for any confusion if so!
I agree
Interesting theory. The base concept was great until you got into genetics. Auroras don’t emit radiation, they are radiation, and the atmosphere prevents any of said radiation from getting within 90 km of you. All that reaches you from an aurora is photons, not radiation. Even if the dragon planet has a weak atmosphere (which it doesn’t because it has to cross a certain threshold to sustain any life, so don’t even argue that) the radiation wouldn’t be near the dosage to cause genetic mutation. In fact, nothing would even happen because EM radiation isn’t what causes genetic mutations, ionizing radiation is, so the entire theory means nothing. In order to mutate genes, the dragons would have to be hit by a solar flare or GRB, which would vaporize everything, or a pulsar which would split the planet in half. It just doesn’t make sense.
Gamma rays are both ionizing and EM radiation. They can cause auroras and pierce the atmosphere. So it would be wrong to say that auroras cause genetic mutation, auroras can nevertheless be indicators of presence of powerful gamma ray sources, which not only create the auroras but also cause mutations.
The huge overwhelming problem with the theory, however, is that there is no reason whatsoever why genetic mutations would cause a dragon to manipulate the universe with language. That requires reprogramming the entire universe.
I think that twins such as peril and sky; sometime during the growing process, and with the sunlight thing, and going off that another person thinks they used to be able to control their abilitys, I think not only did peril get fire scales, but she took all the fire out of sky, giving him none, and that’s why her scales are “hotter than a normal dragonbreath”
I was waiting for this one to be posted! Such a great video, but I am curious on how the SeaWings in the royal bloodline developed the bioluminescent scales on their wings! Did the family get picked to be royalty because of it, or was it bred into the family? It also makes me wonder if the other animi in the other tribes have strange things going on with them too!
I think it's a symbol of the possibility of magic- We know nightwings that can read minds have teardrop scales, and dragons like Fatespeaker who can't read minds (but were close to being able to) still have them sometimes. It could be similar to that- animus magic only runs in the royal SeaWing family, so it could say "Hey, look, we have these because we could be magical!"
That's a really good question! I can imagine dragons early on choosing the dragons with the royal pattern to rule because they could have thought it was a good luck symbol or some kind of sign that they were meant to rule. It may have started out as an unnatural mutation on one or two dragons as the tribes started to form into the versions we know them as now.
Or there was a coup de etat/tribal unification thousands of years ago, similar to the sandwings, and the spiral dragons employed eugenics to establish a hierarchy. This would result in spiral patterned dragons to be recognized as royal without the issue of inbreeding. Would make sense given the macabre history of the seawings.
I think they got them bc of there habitat and how they adopted into the sea and got gills,and can see in the dark
I forgot to say, What do you think would happens if a NightWing was born during a solar eclipse?
I'm not sure, actually! I wonder what that could be like :O
hmm, maybe powers similar to clearsight? like an advanced variant of nightwing powers due to the increased amount of sunlight?
@@nanyabusiness4342im pretty sure Tui confirmed that nightwings born under eclipses can emit their thoughts into other dragons brains instead of reading minds
@@nehalmorris no, thats a fan made lore
The SeaWings must have got theirs from thunderstorms because they shoot electricity from the sky,like a rock from a slingshot. The electricity might have affected the dragon to have powers.
SandWings might have got theirs from the sun. Really cool theories
Ooh! Maybe lighting stuck the water nearby when they hatched, or all the energy from the storm caused some kind of a mutation
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I think Animus magic uses the caster's soul as a powersource, like a mana pool.
oooh that could also explain how using animus magic 'damages' your soul
This video has blown my mind. It's brought something that I must seriously think about.
What if scavengers had animus magic but the dragons inherited it from scavengers, but the scavengers wouldn’t know if they had animus magic.
The only problem with this is that if they even were able to have children, the chance of a dragon eating, squashing or accidentally killing the scavenger is way too high. Plus most dragons would consider scavengers at friends at most.
this has so many holes in it i cant even begin to explain how absurd this is. no offense, but this sounds more like rule 34 fan fiction, for starters, that's not how it works, size difference and reptilian biology make "that" impossible, plus, no. just no, Tui wouldn't allow that to be canon in a KID to TEENAGE/YOUNG ADULT book series, the only thing that MIGHT be possible is getting it from eating a scavenger, but even that's pretty unlikely, and i suppose its POSSIBLE, but extremely unlikely that a scavenger knew they were magic and changed to a dragon form, but that's literally VERY specific circumstances that would even begin to make this likely
It had to be some case of strange biotechnology transfer.
yeah im actually working on a book were there was a scavenger born with magic
How… how would they inherit it? 😟
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I never really thought about the science, but this is a very realistic approach.
Maybe seawings got it from the tidal waves flooding from the full moon. (When the full moon come, often times homes and beaches flood frok the tides changing)
It could be that ALL dragons have animus dragons but they just never got found out. It’s obvious that all dragons have a common ancestor that was like a mixture of all the current types of dragons.
I want to just say that Darkstalker 'stole' the animus gene from the IceWings and as far as we know, there were no previous NightWing Animi.
i find it weird that there were no more icewng animi since darkstalker has an icewing aunt (i cant remember for sure) and diamond couldve had more children or just enchanted some1 to be an animus
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Tysm!
The wasy Jerboa's spell that got rid of animus magoc was writen just to take away the current generation's magic, so it can come back. If you think im lying go read book 14 and read Jerboa's spell very carefully
I would like to think the tribes when they where born all had it then it got more rare in there geans and only a little where left, and I think how they chose the queens back then is if they had it and they where one of the leaders in the scorching , HEy but that’s a Throury a WOF throury😅 sorry for the bad spelling
😂 I love how it sounds okay but has some kinks
I think what would help with the SeaWings Animus question is 4rcane’s video on dragon evolution.
This is a pretty good theory. And it does make sense. Wouldn't it be crazy if it got confirmed.
Yep i agree
But EMR can’t affect genes…
According to Legends: Darkstalker, Albatross, aside from his odd scale colors, also had unusually dark eyes and an "funny-shaped tail". Maybe a member of the IceWing Royal Family interbred with the SeaWings for a sort of diplomatic marriage and over a few generations those trait became less likley, but not impossible to appear in offspring? IDK tho, that my headcanon.
Great ideas! I don’t know if you take video ideas and feel free to not use these, but I had these thoughts lying around and though I’d share them
A few what if ideas
1. What if Thorn never bought Qibli? Would Qibli have eventually won over his mom? Would he have worked for Vulture? Become an assassin? Would he have still gone to Jade Mountain and met Moon? Who is Qibli’s dad?
2. What if Deathbringer’s mom, Qickstrike survived? Would Six Claws have died? What happens to Dune? The War? Glory?
3. What if the Dragonets of Destiny were OP? Hear me out, Clay and Glory stay the same, however Tsunami is born an animus. Sunny is born with her tail barb and since she’s part Nightwing and born on the brightest night, she gets both moon born powers and a boost, also she’s an animus since her dad is. Starflight gets both moon powers and a boost plus animus magic since he could carry the gene. So, are the dragonets still the same? Friendships? Personalities? Are the evil? Good? In between? What about Sunny and Starflight’s relationship now?
Anyway 😅 just some ideas
I always take video ideas! Tysm for those :D
@@Dogloverlikesdoge anytime! My mind goes to weird places when I’m bored. I love your content and trust you the most to make something great of any idea
heres a what if: what if darkstaker wasnt evil or a tyrant (never killed arctic, planned for domination etc), was still immortal, and instead of being asleep he was out in the world (probably in disguise) what would he be doing during the sandwing war?
@@nanyabusiness4342 great idea!
@@lilybethwalters4433 and considering he IS able to see futures its possible that even if the nightwings remained in their kingdom he would see the importance of the dod, so its likely he would still try to make events happen at least similar to how they would in the books to an extent, but likely without the "taking over rainwing territory".
and not gonna lie, i would LOVE to see scarlet's face if darkstalker was a guardian for the dod
This is a wonderful theory! And it is kinda better than my own because the gods wanted to torture or bless their dragons and the genes spread throughout the tribes 😀
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Brilliant! Perfect theory! This makes so mush sense!
This makes so much sense
nightwings too remember stonemover
and maybe queen diamond pulled a jerboa and removed Animus magic from her own tribe
If you’ve played evolution evade in roblox this might make sense cosmos gave them it he cause wanted a challenge if you don’t know who cosmos is he’s some sort of cosmic god that made a bunch of inanimate objects start moving and attacking humans
This is a joke btw
I agree it's also really plausible tho and they fact that the concept of that could or can be explained with science and celestial events males sense
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Ohhh, I like this theory. I definitely think it could be a possibility. At least for like how the gene may have came into existence.
I got my own theory as to why only the seawing and icewing royal families have animus, and why it seems, from what I can gather from the books, that any dragon from the skywing tribe could have animus magic and why they were disposed of when discovered.
Homie, pay attention in class, electromagnetic radiation can’t cause genetic mutations.
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I know that. All I said was I liked the theory?
In the confines of the books it makes sense.
The theory is ground in something in the books, with nightwing powers triggering due to moonlight.
Aren't sea wing eggs hatched underwater with royal eggs in a safer area that's somehow heated to stay warm? If there's magma much deeper down creating thermals to hatch the eggs, could there occasionally be super changes to the magma on the day they hatch?
Wow, that's an interesting thing to point out!
Albatross is the first Seawing animus, and he's half icewing. The Darkstalker legends mentions this. A royal seawing and an animus icewing had Albatross, so the animus gene was carried to him.
I absolutely loved this theory! Not only that, it makes a lot of sense
When did tui confirm that albatross isn't a hybrid? I've been seeing people say that the opposite is true, and that tui confirmed he WAS. I'm so confused, so if anyone has a source, please tell me
XbOxKaT, a DeviantArt user, got to meet Tui back in 2017 and interviewed her. One of the questions she asked was about the Albatross being a hybrid theory, and Tui confirmed it to be false.
According to the post and Tui's response Albatross is probably not a hybrid. His colors are natural pigmentations.
I go more into depth in this video: th-cam.com/video/wjyiO-y1y6w/w-d-xo.html
My personal nerd headcanon for all the biological things that don't make sense is just early use of animus magic. Dragons having 6 and 8 limbs? Animus magic. Icewings having blue blood? Animus magic. I like to believe an early Icewing Animus gave them blue blood to help them blend in with the ice even when they're injured. For the limbs, I think a very early animus created an extra set of limbs to help with hunting. I think they probably started out more like wyverns, but an early animus decided hunting would be easier with front limbs to grab onto prey instead of hunting like birds of prey do. The 8 limbs was just a mutation from the animus spell. I love Wings of Fire, but it's impossible for a vertebrate animal to have 6 or 8 limbs when every other vertebrate is shown to have the normal 4. But that would also imply Animus magic existing before the scorching, so idk.
Other biological attributes that could have been a result of animus magic could be Seawings having gills (Every land vertebrate that has gone back into the ocean has adapted to come back up for air, never re-evolving to have gills), Sandwings having a scorpion tail (It would make sense for an early sandwing animus to give the tribe a venomous tail me thinks), Icewings having frostbreath (I can't think of a way fire-breathing could have adapted into frostbreath, especially since fire-breathing would be a good adaptation to have in such a cold environment), and inter-tribe mating in general. The dragons in WoF are far too biologically different to logically be able to reproduce with each other. I think maybe an early inter-tribe couple, one being an animus, cast a spell so that any dragons may have an egg regardless of tribe. And so not every little thing that doesn't make much sense is just "oh an animus dragon did that", I think the meddling of DNA with animus magic caused mutations to occur more frequently.
My theory on animus origin is that when humans were dominant they used a spell and gave it to dragons so they can do human’s bidding
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I might be wrong but I think Tui has said that Seawings got animis dragons from hybrid and potentially icewings as well so it might’ve been a genetic mutation from a tribe we haven’t seen yet.
I think that animus powers were given to some dragons from the tribes that have animus's. Maybe they were exploring together and found someone/something that gave them powers? It could also have something to do with human/ scavenger experimentation
I mean it does kinda make sense since prince Winter managed to be able to sense animus magic like the tunnel and pyrite. So maybe his powers were just really weakened since he didn't hatch under any celestial events.
Hi doge, I haven't watched your videos or even read WoF in a while, I was previously Almighty Rainbow Echidna, VirtualClicx Roblox (i was in one of your theories last year!), astromerical, then i believe i lost interest in the subject. I just have to say I've been catching up and I've read book 15 and your videos are amazing as always!
Hello! I'm glad to see you back :D
And mudwings have blood red eggs, from blood moons I think
But how the nightwing got there power from darkstalker not aurora or anything(I did not mean to hate or anything and I love your video)
Great vid!
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@@Dogloverlikesdoge No problem! This video was great and I might make a book on the origin of animus! Now I'm going to search for tear lists! Great video, and I do wish some other tribes had animus magic. Wouldn't animus RainWings be cool! Venom + The magic to turn someone into a strawberry. YES PLEASE!
I really liked your head cannon on animus magic it's very interesting I think Icewings getting Animus magic from Aurora's is probably the case I also think that Firscales can Only hatch in the summer because it's so hot and can't hatch on a rainy day so even if that's there hatch date when it's raining they delay it I also have a theory on Leafwings I think that Clearsight gave them there Leafspeak Now I know that might sound crazy but hear me out when Sequoia was talking about the legend of the hive she said "our Flamesilks fought them off" but Leafwings arrived on Pantala at the same time as Beetlewings/Silkwings so what if Clearsight mated with a few (or maybe one) Leafwings which gave them there Leafspeak which is why it might be risky to keep breeding Leafspeaks together because they would be closer related than other Leafwings descended from Clearsight another reason why this could be is because Willow had a dream of Sundew being in the Hives so it could be Possible that she is a descendant of Clearsight as well (I know it sounds weird because their dating but Willow doesn't have Leafspeak so I think that could mean she is way more distantly related to Sundew that someone like Mandrake to the point where them dating is perfectly safe and Possibly descended from Clearsight and a whole nother Leafwings that Sundew) so I hope I explained that detailed enough but yeah Leafspeaks probably came from Clearsight
I’ve always wondered this!
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But I wonder if scavangers can also have animus magic?
Honestly, I doubt it because they definitely would have recorded that in their history and abused it as much as they could have. People like Cottonmouth would have done ANYTHING to have access to an animus if there were any humans with it.
my personal theory after watching this video is that animus magic is similar to magnatisim. this would explain how it is passed down, like how non - magnetic materials gain polarity after being close to powerful magnets for too long. this would also explain how objects are enchanted, and how they keep their original enchantment indefinitely after the original animus was dead, although it wouldn't explain how the enchantments actually do the things that we see them do. this would also confirm your theory of arora causing animus magic, as strong enough radiation can polarize objects. that means that is theoretically possible to have someone gain animus magic if you stick them in a nuclear reactor for long enough. in any other situation you would need the contamination to build up after a few generations. another explanation for icewings gaining animus magic is that the earths magnetic field is strongest at the poles.
what if the animus magic came from pantala or a potential third continent?
This is one of the many things I hope will be explained in the Guidebook
I think it’s the Skyfire comet that caused animus magic because they landed in the Kingdom of Sand and the Kingdom of the Sea, both known with animus magic. It could be called Skyfire because of the Skywings, who could possibly be the first animus dragons. I think it landed in places where animus magic originated and where animus dragons still are alive within the tribe
Feel free to point something out that contradicts my theory
Makes so much sense now!
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Oo imagine an animus scavenger!
Albatross the seawing was part Icewing, and he had animus magic
It was confirmed by Tui that he isn't a hybrid. A fan back in 2017 was able to ask her some questions regarding the series, and one of the things she brought up was if Albatross was a hybrid. Tui said he most likely isn't, and that his coloring is natural SeaWing pigmentation.
have a theory on this but its a bit out there but i think it makes sense? lmk if u understand. beware because its gonna be quite alot of writing so get comfortable.
before the scotching all the "tribes" were jumbled up. there were no definite tribes, just dragons all with unique powers. as known in the series, space & celestial objects/events give dragons powers. i think that maybe there was a lost ability/power sometime before or maybe even during the scorching when the dragons began separating into tribes. i believe this ability came from the hatching under the third moon since it is unknown what power it provides. i think that if a dragon was hatched under 3 moons their blood would be blessed with celestial abilities. these celestial abilities are: mindreading, prophecy and animus magic. and if the dragon blessed with celestial blood went on to have dragonets, they would pass the gene down, meaning that their future dragonet would have the ability 2 harvest the powers of the moons (therefore if their dragonet hatched under 1 moon they would be blessed with either prophecy or mindreading, hatched under 2 moons they'd be blessed with both mindreading and prophecy.) and that receiving the animus gene was far more rare. a dragon could not posses it unless they were thrice born or if one of their ancestors had celestial blood and if a dragon possessed celestial blood they may or may not have animus magic. if that was true that would explain why only nightwings in current time are the only tribe that can harvest the power of the moons. i think that is why nightwings have stars under their wings. just like how if a nightwing is born with a teardrop scale they possess the power to read minds? well i think that if a dragon was born with stars under their wings they posses celestial blood. when the scorching happened and the dragons separated into tribes that the dragons with celestial blood were bred into the nightwing tribe. however some of the other dragons with celestial blood were bred into other tribes but overtime that gene became less and less powerful, making it so eventually the only tribes left with weak celestial genes were: icewings, skywings, seawings, sandwings and of course the nightwings. the nightwing tribe contained the most celestial blood while others only had a few traces. overtime the power of the third moon became weaker and weaker. making it so less and less dragons from other tribes not containing celestial genes could no longer be granted with celestial powers hatching under 3 moons. and also but in the tribes that did posses it (besides nightwings) the celestial gene itself became less and less powerful. making it so less and less dragons hatched under moonlight could harvest the power of the moons at birth such as prophecy and mindreading. but since animus magic was the strongest and rarest power it still remained in their genes. eventually the other tribes' ability to harvest the power of the moons faded, leaving them with only the power of animus magic. which had also began coming less and less powerful overtime. making it so using the power would have consequence as of before when a dragon could use it as freely and loosely as they wanted while suffering little to no consequences. the only tribe who's celestial blood remained strong and their ability 2 harvest the powers of the moons (mindreading/prophecy) were the nightwings. a sign of possessing strong celestial blood i believe are the stars under their scales. similar too how a dragon with mindreading abilities is born with a teardrop scale beside their eyes. ik your probably wondering now "well if animus magic was the strongest celestial power, then how come the other tribes ended up with animi and not the nightwings?" and i dont really have a clear answer, do have one theory however; celestial powers can be different for each bloodline. it depending on how bright the moons were at hatching and if their egg was fully exposed in the moonlight or not, for example: if an egg was hatched fully exposed under the moonlight when all 3 moons were full then that dragonet would have strong celestial powers and blood, allowing animus magic to reoccur more often in their bloodline, but if a dragon was hatched only partially exposed to the triple moonlight then their celestial powers and blood would be weaker. making it so the animus gene doesn't reoccur as often or if it's particularly weak; not at all. so back to the nightwings. i believe that since their tribe possessed weaker celestial blood, the amount of celestial dragons in the tribe made up for the weakness of the moon's powers but not the animus powers. making it so the ability to harvest the power of the moons was still a strong genetic, but receiving the animus magic gene was next to impossible, causing it to eventually fizzle out. in the other tribes, since the more powerful celestial dragons were bred in, it was the opposite. strong enough to pass on the animus gene but not strong enough to keep the moon's powers gene. (this is because the animus gene is stronger then the moon's powers gene.)
i know this theory is kind of a far stretch, but if you think about it, it would make sense. my finger hurts now anyways so let me know what you think in the replies. if u have anything 2 add on 2 my theory then reply to this comment with ur add on :) id love too hear some feedback and opinions!
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It's unfortunate that Tui never revealed the true origins of Animus Magic. However, I believe that this is a good Theory, and maybe, just maybe, Tui might give us a explanation. (Unless she's like Scott Cawthorn)
Great vid
Thank you!
Maybe for the sandwings it could be because of an eclipse? Idk just a thought :)
Maybe a Lunar eclipse as it was mentioned that the sandwings worship the moon?
Interesting!
What about Pantala, then? Why don't they have animus magic, if the two continents are roughly on the same parallel?
Animus magic could only be gotten from auroras during the scorching, and the pantala dragons didnt arrive until after that time if i remember correctly
@@mothgirl0512 oh that makes sense, thank you!!
I have a theory of my own about the IceWing’s animus magic, Queen Diamond had a niece (SnowFox) and then Snowfox had a daughter, so in theory the present day IceWings should have animus magic
So… Animus theory? What’s the Animus praxis?
did you guys notice that in the flames of hope there was a red and black fire breathing dragon in the scorching, i dont think she was a hybrid. i think that the dragons that could live in the different environment moved there to create a kingdom, like rainwings maybe not all of them had venom or complete color changing scales after the scorching. like clearsight, she could see the future and maybe some of her children could read minds or see the future but there wasnt enough nightwings there for the powers to stay for long and soon her descendants were their own tribe and what if seawing and icewings were one tribe once but then they split and the majority of animi dragons went north while myb some stayed but there wasnt enough animus blood for there to be animus for a long time, and have you noticed how when animus conjures something from nothing it doesnt seem to be coming from nothing like it coming from another world maybe? what if some dragons can sort of see it cause they have some animus blood but not enough for them to be and animus but they dont know how to describe it and never say anything and then two get together and have children and then they have an animus child, maybe that how albatross was an animus. dragons that had some small measly amount of animus blood until enough of it pooled together into a dragonet that they had. like scraping a bowl lined with batter until you have enough for one cupcake.
There are many theories about nightwings born under different moons like maybe supermoons, blood moons, blue moons, and maybe also solar eclipses.
I also feel like all tribes should have royal markings. Maybe the night wings could have few golden scattered scales under their wings. Rainwings with bigger ruffs, sandwings with bigger tail barbs or markings, icewings with more spikes than most, and idk what for mudwings
TBH I do kinda believe the reason the Seawings my have lighter shades of blue and green (ALSO Anemone's pale pink colors) is because the Seawings may have different tribe scale DNA in them. Like maybe for Anemone's pink color could be of Rainwing DNA or maybe a a weird pinkish-reddish color for Skywing DNA? And for the paler blues and greens could be Icewing DNA. Or this could be just a weird scale mutation, but that can't really explain Anemone's pale pink colors cause the Seawings have no hint of pink or any other colors then shades of blue and green. I'm not saying all Seawings are hybrids but I do think that the Seawings may have Multitribe ancestors.
😵 this blew my mind! 😵
I might be misremembering, but I think the skywing dignitaries in the Darkstalker legend book mentioned that they purposely kill any animus dragons
I like this theory : D
I’m imagining that an aurora will fall on the rainforest and all the rainwings will try to match their scales to it meanwhile an animus rainwing is born and will probably never find out about their powers 😂
Off topic but i JUST started reading book 7 half way through and i also wondered "how did the ice wings even manage to have animus magic first?..."
i think that the first animus was the creator of the world, then gave the world some animii as time went on, eventualy leving it to genetics.
With how albatross got animus magic even though he is not a icewing-seawing hybrid, I have a theory. So I think that albatross had a recessive animus magic gene. The way recessive genes work is their are two parents who have the gene but it is quiet non active, if both parents have that recessive gene their children will have that gene pop up. Ex. two parents with brown hair having children with blonde hair. So I believe that somewhere in albatrosses family their was an ancestor who had a celestial event or a ice-sea hybrid that brought that gene in the family, and it wasn't until albatrosses parents had eggs that the gene came out. Because both parents had that animus gene but it wasn't active until those quiet genes came together to get the animus power in albatross, hence albatrosses power that was sudden and unknown. That's my theory anyway.
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One question pops in my head with this theory.
If aurora borealis does grant magic powers if hatched under it. Wouldn’t that mean almost every ice wing would have it?
Hear me out on earth and other planets aurora borealis is very common it lasts for months on earth August to May. Now I know earth is not like the dragon planet but unless the core of the dragon planet is cooling down then it should be common up north
Whenever I've read darkstalker or runnaway in the winglets quartet, I always get confused on how they lost the magic. Queen diamond had two kids right? Artic AND snowfox? So why didn't snowfox's kids carry the gene? ( if I'm confused just tell me nicely) : ]
My theory is that the animus magic came from the NightWings being born under three moons, and yes I know the NightWings basically debunked that, but since there aren’t many three moon NightWings I assume, and only one in the books, they can’t be so sure. Basically the NightWings then started to become hybrids from breeding, and then the hybrid genes eventually died off. But the animus genes were carried, since I also think genetics work. Also, for more supportive reasoning, the Pantalan dragons don’t get animus magic.
The hybrid genes could’ve actually made the Pantalan dragons eventually, but by then the animus magic died off. And maybe there still is hybrid genes, and that made some of the other tribes and they weren’t all there in the beginning.
do a theory video on the actual origin of dragons as a "species"
Ok good theory
This makes sense but I think Albatross could have got his magic from IceWings but not as a hybrid. if he were a hybrid hed show more IceWing traits and one of his parents or grandparents would have to be a pure IceWing. No, I think maybe centuries back, maybe there could have been a Sea-Ice hybrid. Tui saying Albatross isn't a hybrid doesnt mean he doesn’t have ancient IceWing amcestory. And genes can stay dormant if they are recessive and there is a dominant gene present. I think the Animus gene is most likely recessive not only considering rare it is but also that it can be passed down through generations with some generations not even having the power. Take. Arctic and Foesalyer for example. Lets say the Animus gene is a and whatever gene stops it from being active is A. so if we made a Punnet Square for Arctic and Foeslayer, Arctic would aa because theres no dominant gene to cover up thr recessive one. Foeslayer would obviously be AA bwcause she doesnt have animus magic and the NightWimgs never did until the point. This does have some holes cux Foeslayer wpuldnt need to havr the dominat gene to snuff out Animus genes because there is no gene to snuff out but for simplicoty lets just say she has thr dominat gene. Putting this in a Punnet Square actually doesnt work bevause you get a 100% chance of just passing down thr gene but no offspring a tually getting the power. Animus mahic cant be dominant bevause then it would always be active when it is passed down. But what if Foeslayer doesnt have the hypothetic Animus blocker gene? This is where I'm stuck but heres where it gets even more interesting: when you actually give Foeslayer Aa, meaning she carries the Animus gene, this is what you get this:
50% Animus
50% Carrying Animus gene
meaning that if Foeslayer actually had Animus ancestors and carried the gene, that is the only way for Darkstalker tk be an Animus and Whiteout to carry the gene. With this new information we can now suggest that perhaos, the NightWings DID once posess Animus magic. A VERY long time ago and overtime youd be left with non-Animi and NightWings carrying the gene but not the power. I just realised this has nothing to do with Albatross but whoops I guess i just acvidentally dosvovered something lmao
This was perfect lol because i just found out what happens to it in book 14 lol
The reason why sky wings don’t like animus dragons in the tribe is they stopped having that bloodline because of albatross they didn’t want them going crazy
If firescales come from sunlight expoture, why don't sandwings have them; or rainwings?
My theory is that it’s a mixture of genetics + celestial events
Scorching is not a celestial event. Scorching is Dragons rising against the Humans and their Technology. Animus magic could have something to do with biotechnology. If you could break the universe to the point where you can program and reprogram the way it works, up to exceptions and certain unnatural feats being linked to celestial events, well, animus magic could exist just like that. Scorching in and of itself is extremely interesting and not at all understood. Something triggered Scorching. Something the humans did, something that the Dragons could not just tolerate.
What is the other reason that the other tribes didn’t get their animus powers Because maybe they had to see an eclipse
I have a few what ifs
WHAT IF ONLY MOON GOT CAPTURED BY WASP
WHAT IF JAMBU WAS SENT TO PANTALA INSTEAD OF PINEAPPLE
WHAT IF MANGROVE WAS SENT TO PANTALA INSTEAD OF PINEAPPLE
WHAT IF FEIRCETEETH KEPT SUBNY AS A HOSTAGE
WHAT IF THE FALSE DRAGONETS SWAPPED WITH THE REAL DRAGONETS
WHAT IF KESTREL SUCCEEDED IN KILLING GLORY
WHAT IF SCARLET AND RUBY SWAPPED PLACES
Those are AWESOME! Ty for the ideas!