Tony Gwynn- 19 consecutive .300 batting average seasons, 8 batting titles, 15x all star ,3,000 hits, 434 total career strike outs, .338 avg,.....and even more records . NO ROIDS
I think same ARod and Bonds should not be in this list Bonds and ARob are more power hitters . So Tony Gwynn should be in this list instead of this two.
Met Tony Gwynn as a kid, in Cincinnati, when I was an autograph hound. He signed every card I had including A Fleer and Topps Rookie and the Topps "Leaders" card. Also met Benito Santiago and he signed it too. The cards got stolen and it still hurts my soul. Anyway, Tony and Pete Rose are my all-time favorites and they should both be top 5, imo.
Imagine the numbers Ted Williams would have finished with if he didn't spend FIVE of his peak years serving as a fighter pilot in two wars (John Glenn claimed he was the best pilot he'd ever seen - oh and he was also inducted into the Fly Fishing Hall of Fame) - if they were AVERAGE years for him he'd be near the tops in HR's and RBI's - but if say only 2 or 3 of those seasons were his very best he'd have gotten close to Babe Ruth's power numbers and added another dozen or so points to his average! I certainly he consider him the best hitter in MLB history as far as pure hitting goes. - It's pretty amazing Boston had him and Yaz covering that green monster from 1939 through 1983 - two guys in FORTY-FOUR seasons!
Can't argue with you there Tim. He was, I always thought, kind of underrated and over looked. I know Americans seem obsessed with top ten lists and ranking things. You can't really do it for the arts but we still do. With stats like in sports I suppose it can be to some extent but in my mind once you reach that level of talent every individual becomes a unique phenomena that is his own gift to society and then it becomes a popularity thing. There are certain things that some individuals are just one of a kind at. Tris Speaker, at his best, you can argue was the best all-around ballplayer period...but...there can and will always be arguments LOL. When I was maybe 12 or so and read a short bio about the guy I became an instant fan.
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No matter who's on the greatest hitter list, you'll never get it right because it's impossible to create the perfect list of all time great hitters. We all know who they are, but to put them in order, good luck with that.⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾👍
Pretty good list. These things are never easy to do. Tony Gwynn, Joe DiMaggio, Jimmy Foxx, Tris Speaker, Joe Jackson, Rod Carew all deserve a tip of the cap.
Barry Bonds ABSOLUTELY STUNK when it counted in the playoffs. Kirby Puckett won 2 World Series' in just 12 years with lowly Minnesota who never wins anything.
I don’t have stats in front of me, but Nap ‘Larry’ Lajoie is grossly underrated and should be considered. Hornsby is on the list, but I still say he too is underrated - definitely a top 6 or so.
I don't go by opinion. I go by Ted Williams list. Head a formulae that shows who and why they are the greatest hitters actually the list wasn't that bad but the two players that were left off for just that mean it was unbelievable because it specially Jimmie Foxx Jamie Foxx Ted Williams considered with Gehrig and Ruth the three greatest hitters of all time. He said. With production was unbelievable year after year after year everything perfect with those three guys Williams at himself 4th but any other guy I don't think you had on there was DiMaggio Ida Lee Williams had him around 6 to 7th lol
As a Cardinals fan, it warms my heart to see Stan Musial getting his due respect. He was a true gentleman on and off the field......but where is Tony Gwynn????
Same here, Musial almost always seems to fall between the cracks when a best of list comes up. I also agree with you on Gwynn, and how about leaving Joltin' Joe off the list?
@@stevenmccart2894 My baseball hero, when growing up in St Louis in the 50's. He was the best player in baseball at the time, in my eyes. Only Mays, who came along a little later, Aaron, and Mantle were in his league at the time. Eddie Mathews was a great player, too, but unfortunately he doesn't often even get a mention.
Joe Jackson 3rd highest lifetime batting average in the history of baseball, Ty Cobb was quoted as saying he was the greatest natural hitter he had ever seen and Babe Ruth was said to have thought so much of his hitting that he copied his swing. Not sure how he won't be on any list of "...Greatest Hitters in Baseball History"
I've never heard a single writer, announcer or sabermatrician make the observation that Jackson's lifetime average is inflated by about 8-12 points due to the fact that he was banned at age 31 at the height of his talent and therefore avoided playing for the declining older phase of his career when he would've hit for lower averages and his lifetime average would've dropped accordingly to about .345-.348. Still excellent and Hall of Fame worthy. But honestly, no better than Tris Speaker I'd bet. Lots of romantic exaggeration just like dying young and leaving a good looking corpse like James Dean or Elvis, you become a legend forever....
@@michaelkaminski8339 Except that Jackson's declining years would have been in a period of inflated offensive stats. I think his decline to age would not have been reflected by his average and he would easily have hit more homeruns.
@@SuperBosco24 I'm not knocking Bonds when I say that. I don't care about the roids either... MOST people forget that during the that era steroids were NOT ILLEGAL at the time. Bonds was a GREAT power hitter, but an all around hitter, gotta go with Gwynn, he was just better. Bottom of the ninth NEED a hit, who you picking? situation
Michael, you speak of things you cannot possibly know. I've seen Ruth's swing. Easily the most powerful swing I've ever seen. You are a brainwashed trendy modern airhead. @michael cooper
My all-time favorite is Ted Williams. He was the last player to bat .400 and at age 38, he came within 6 hits of doing it again. And he was a fighter pilot in the Korean War
Harry Heilmann. At his peak from 1921 to 1927, Heilmann compiled a .380 batting average, .452 on-base percentage, .583 slugging percentage, and averaged 116 RBIs, 41 doubles, 11 triples, and 104 runs scored per season. He hit over .390 4 times and .403 once.
Heilmann was great, though overshadowed by fellow Tiger, Cobb. Some of the all-time greats, including Cobb, thought Joe Jackson was the purest hitter they'd ever seen. Ruth patterned his swing after Jackson's. When Heilmann was at his best, Jackson had been vanquished, never to play in MLB again. Such a horrific consequence to a man with a baseball talent for the ages. Poor Joe, he never lost his love for the game, playing/connected to semi-pro ball for 20 years after his ouster from the majors. He grew up in poverty and died in ignominy...from a heart attack at 64, the first of the eight Chicago players implicated and expelled after the "Black" Sox scandal...I think Rose is a pretty unsavory fellow, but both he and Jackson have paid enough-put 'em in the Hall. One the other hand, I don't think Rose warrants being on the list here. There's a number I'd put ahead of him, like Heilmann, Jackson and Tris Speaker, maybe Mel Ott and Jimmy Foxx...
@@fenwayify I get what you're saying, but I don't think you could have a list like this without Rose on it. He was phenomenal(and I always hated him because Ty Cobb was always my favorite player(it's complicated, don't ask), and Rose broke several of his records.) Those other guys were great, no doubt, but Rose was top 5 IMO. I'd say Ty Cobb was the best(.367 lifetime BA is ridiculous), but objectively Ruth had better stats(and a very high lifetime BA as well.) As someone else said, Tony Gwynn should have been on this list. He is criminally underrated.
I was surprised Tony Gwynn was left off. Growing up in the 80s as an Astros fan, I dreaded seeing him at the plate with runners on base more than contemporaries like Mike Schmidt and Dale Murphy. Schmidt and Murphy could scare you because they could change a game with one swing. But you could strike them out. With Gwynn, he didn't miss when he swung the bat. So your only hope with runners in scoring position was a liner right at someone.
Gwynn definitely belongs on here and considering Pete Rose is on here I think Ichiro should at least get an honorable mention considering that if you include his stats in Japan, he beat Rose's hit record. Also, they couldn't find a spot for Ken Griffey Jr. WTF?
@@fuktrumpanzeeskum That's because there are more than 13 players in the Top 13. The barrell is just too full. After you give the historic players their due, there's just not enough room left.
I expected Gwynn to be 2 or 3. I thought Ted Williams would be number 1. Tony struck out less in his entire career than some of todays players do in 2 or 3 seasons
I would put Shoeless Joe Jackson, Ken Griffey Jr and Tony Gwynn on the list. Here's a note on Ted Williams. He is the only player to win a triple crown and not win the MVP the same year, and that happened to him twice in his career. Plus who knows what kind of numbers he would have put up if he hadn't joined the Marines and fought in World War 2 and Korea.
Griffey Jr. as one of the 13 greatest ‘hitters’ 😂 Please try a little bit to be objective. KGJr was a great player, not even close to a top 20 hitter of all time.
@@tyeikenberg8938 - Get real. Over the years, there have been many great baseball players. I am not ready to say that Tony Gwynn belongs in the top 10. And Living in the San Diego area from 1980-84 and 1988-91, I got to see Gwynn many times. No joke.
right on i was going to mention those facts about Teddy Ball Game. if you want to teach a young one how to hit tell them to read "The Science of Hitting" by Ted Williams
Add 5 seasons in his prime to Ted Williams (military service). He would have been close to 5,000 hits. Pete Rose would still be looking for a DH job with an AL team to catch that.
@@r.crompton2286 Pete rose didn't have ted Williams homerun stuff;; it like comparing babe Ruth with ty cobb; plus ted Williams walk alot ; the great Japanese hitter singles hitter used to hit homerun in batting practice; ty cobb did that too. Homerun hitting isn't a special skill
There was a guy in the 20s who struck out 4 times in a whole season….TWICE…..Not striking out is not the sign of a great hitter. On base Percentage and Slugging percentage are the two best indicators…..also, OPS+, which takes the league and the park into account…..The most outstanding hitters are Ruth, Bonds, Williams, Frank Thomas, Gehrig Foxx, Cobb, Speaker, Hornsby, Mantle, Musial, Pujols, Schmidt, Mays and Aaron. I know its 14, but oh well….
That's right, but did you know that Johnny Mize when he was with the NY Giants once hit 50 HRs in a season and only struck out 50 times A feat unequaled in baseball history
YES! Jimmy Foxx was one of only six (6) players in history to have a slugging percentage of .600 or better. From the top, it was Ruth, Williams, Foxx, Gehrig, Bonds, & Greenburg.
Tommy Lasorda told my dad that Ted Williams told him, that Ty Cobb told him, that Shoeless Joe was the best hitter to ever play. Alex Rodriguez out, Shoeless Joe Jackson in!
The amazing thing about Musial was his consistency. 1815 hits at home. 1815 hits on the road. I read an article which said that when you looked at Stan’s bats, all the ball marks were on the barrel, in a pattern less than 2 inches wide!
Musial started as a pitcher but injured his shoulder then became an everyday player. In 1952 the Cardinal manager let Musial throw one pitch in a game then he went back to the outfield.
Joe Jackson 3rd on all time career batting average list at .3558 RBI 785 HITS 1722 HRS 54 OBP .423 SLG .517. He should be on this list . My favorite ballplayer. His Birthday is July 16 . Happy birthday Shoeless Joe !
A A when Joe started in the mill team in South Carolina, he pitched but Joe threw the ball so hard he hurt 1 catcher's hand and broke 2 batters arms. Joe didn't want to pitch anymore. He became an outfielder with a nasty arm that threw out a lot of base runners.
Concerning Lou Gehrig - something a lot of people don't know is that Babe Ruth batted 3rd and Gehrig batted clean-up. In 1927, Ruth hit 60 home runs which means that Gehrig came up to bat an extra 60 TIMES that year with no-one on base because the bases had been cleared by Ruth. Gehrig had 173 RBIs in 1927. Can you imagine?
--Yeah--Hit over .400 three times. Not too shabby, including .424 in 1924. This video should have had a lot more info and been longer. Stan Musial would have been the first guy to knock in 2,000 runs, except for a year in the service as a strong, young man. He knocked in 1,951. Aaron leads the list, followed by A-Roids and Pujols, who will surpass , with natural talent, A-Roids, probably in 2020, as the Angels are mis-using Albert this year, holding him out out of 20 games before the ASG, and he STILL had 45 knocked in by July 7th.
It's interesting That everyone seems to over look Ichiro ! A great all around player. Also played 9 season in Japan. Played 28 years of big league ball.
Ichiro was HARDLY one of the most dangerous hitters of all time. there are scores of hitters that were more dangerous to opposing pitchers than Ichiro. great player, but he doesn't even make my first, second or third all-time teams of starting 9
I hear ya. Being from Washington state, I saw all of Edgar and Ichiro’s careers (on TV mostly). If my life depended on a base hit, and any Mariner hitter could stand in, I’d choose Ichiro over Edgar and the rest. Good day, sir.
I'm from Seattle too. I loved Ichiro. Great all around player. Great fielder, great singles hitter. Good base stealer. But by every single metric, Edgar Martinez was a far better hitter than Ichiro. Batting average, Ichiro .311 Edgar .312. OBP, Ichiro .355, Edgar .418 Sluggling percentage, Ichiro .402, Edgar .515. OPS, Ichiro .757, Edgar .933. , Edgar's averaged 41 doubles per season. Ichiro averaged 22. Edgar hit three times as many home runs as Ichiro. Edgar averaged 8 more runs each season and he drove in twice as many runs as Ichiro. And if you look at their best 5 years, The difference is even greater. If I could choose only one of them, I would choose Edgar every day and twice on Sunday.
@@nikolatesla5553 I’m the first thumbs up for your comment. You make a number of salient points. However, as you first point out, their batting averages nearly identical. It’s a coin toss. I’ll stick with Ichiro for that hit.
@vinmansbakery Wow! I guess facts don't matter. If you said that Ichiro was a more valuable player because he was a ten time Gold Glove outfielder and a far superior base runner, those would be reasonable arguments. But it is silly to suggest that Ichiro was better or even comparable to Edgar at the plate. The only aspect that was similar were their batting averages. The name of the game is runs and Edgar created more by a lot. He scored more often by 10% and he drove in MORE than twice the number of runs. Average total runs yearly created by Ichiro was a highly respectable 132. Edgar's OTOH was a staggering 195!!
Anthony Keith Gwynn was amazing. Had he laid off the tobacco and controlled his diet, he'd have had at least 4000 hits. I was a season ticket holder in SD when he played. What he could do with a bat was stunning. Best of all, he was a better man than a ballplayer. Beloved.
His playing in SD, just like Musial in STL, cost them both in terms of national stature. Gwynn was every bit the hitter Ted Williams was, but hit for less power,. He was San Diego baseball.
garylobo3 saying Gwynn was “every bit” as good a hitter as Ted Williams, just not “as much power” - That’s like saying “Wes Welker would be considered as great as Jerry Rice, if Rice hadn’t caught all those passes and scored all those TDs.”. WTF, man?
My brother took my nephew, then 6, to the Padres spring training. He was cheering for Gwynn and a woman asked him who his favorite player was." "TONY GWYNN!" "I'm his mother." She later called Tony over and introduced him to my nephew.
My brother who was a total baseball Stat geek told me there is a little known Stat about Gehrig, he is the only person to hit 4 triples in one game but it was rained out an didn't count, imagine.
Sometimes it's what you don't do that makes you great. Gwynn once went 35 games without striking out. That's over a month! Most players today can't go a three-game series without striking out.
Check out Joe Sewell, if you want to see a guy who didn't strike out. He holds the record of 115 games without a strikeout. and yes, Sewell hit .312 career.
The thing I cannot grasp about Babe Ruth is how many homers he hit and yet started as an excellent pitcher for the Red Sox. He was the best hitting pitcher of all time. i cannot believe such a home run hitter could have also been a great pitcher but many times the best pitcher of a high school team is able to do it all, but not at the major league level. Cards fan from STL
@@SteveLeicht1 I liked your comment and especially the part about if you could get him to do it. I have read that when he came to St. Louis to play the Browns he had a favorite golf course that was located right next to where I went to college. At least he was getting some exercise. I would say that he enjoyed life.
I'm a lifelong Yankees fan and here are Joe D's stats. He played only 13 Seasons. Batting avg .325. Avg # HR's per season 30. Avg # of hits per season 170. Avg RBI's per season 118. The only numbers that really blow you away are the batting avg and RBI's. I realize that stats don't tell the whole story, but who are you supposed to take off of that list to put DiMaggio on it???? Remember, this was a list of all time greatest hitters, not all around greatest players.
That's right Wayne, I posted he should have been on the list. With over 3,000 hits, as well as 7 batting titles. He was a master with the bat who could hit to all fields, and with pretty good power as well. One of the greatest natural hitters of all time. I call him a natural hitter, because he was born to be a great hitter, eve though the great ones have to work on their skills too. He tagged his hitting style on the mean streets and lost fields of NYC, which makes him even more remarkable. The compilers if this list need to revise it and add Carew, and Tony Oliva as well, another all time great hitter who played on the Twins with Rod.
Gosh be sheez a lready, why do I have to spell check every DANG word I spell here? I'm constantly spell checking this stupid phone, these bleepin' word tricks h e gotta stop already!!! It ain't me misspelling 'em!!! The stinkin' phone carrier is gettin an earful tomorrow, that's a promise!!!
@Dan Chapowski Were you there in the locker room when they ALLEDGEDLY took amphetamines to improve their performance on the field. Let's condemn the coke head players and juicers of the'80's, '90's and 2000's, rather than cast false accusations against the great old time ballplayers.
Bond had one of the best career averages, hit 78 hrs in a season, walked plently of times in a season. A-Rod, along with his power and contact would become possibpy the best SS/3rd baseman of all time
@@darrenhellwege6976 Bonds a far better hitter than Tony Gwynn? What game of baseball is it that you don't understand or appreciate? Tony was one of the best contact hitters in the history of the game. Up there with Ty Cobb,. Rogers Hornsby, Tris Speaker and Shoeless Joe Jackson. Or Rod Carew, a fantastic natural hitter and Hall of Famer. Bonds could NEVER compare to Ted Williams! The only modern era player to hit over .400 and hit 521 career home runs, despite missing 5 years to war service. All these players did it the RIGHT WAY, not Barry Bonds!
I'll not forget the interview that Hank Aaron gave while on "Home Run Derby." He was asked by Mark Scott, the narrator if he was a contract player. Aaron answered, "Are you kidding? All they gave me was a paper suitcase that fell apart in the rain."
Because it’s not cheating. All of the player in the Era used them to get stronger to stay on the field. Hank Aaron said that in his era they used greenies to stay on the field. And greenies were not allowed. So stfu. You have literally no idea what you’re talking about.
Ted Williams should have been number one. 0.344 career average, 2654 hits, 1839 RBI?'s, and 521 HR's. And, let's remember, that he missed three seasons due to military service in WW2. These years were in his prime ... and would have been his 5th, 6th and 7th seasons. So it would be reasonable to add 550 hits, 360 RBI's, and 90 HR's to the above numbers (to look at his "would be" career).
Ted is #1 in my opinion. Batted .400 could have hade up to 700 home runs, and maybe even more. He might not be the best all around, but he is the greatest hitter ever
Yes, but when forming a list, you have to go on what actually happened, not hypotheticals. Besides, Ted only had 700 fewer at bats than Ruth, and close to 200 less homers, and his average was only .02 better, with his slugging and OPS being less. Remember, Ruth missed his first 5 due to being a pitcher as well.
I was so confused on why he wouldn't put ichiro over the people that needed steroids. He had 4000+ hits in his whole career without enhancements he should be on the list.
@Melo Bryant The topic is the 13 greatest HITTERS . Fielding doesn't enter into it. As was almost universally agreed during their time, Ted was the better hitter, while Joe was the better all-around player.
Joe DiMaggio the Yankee Clipper. A 56 game consecutive hitting streak and maybe the greatest 5 tool player of his era. I cannot see how Joltin Joe is not on this list.
People talk like steroids are resent . . . hardly . . . Middle 50's till now is more like it. Would.'nt you juice if it would make you rich and famous . . . give your family a more secure and happy life ? Anyone who is WAY BETTER than everyone else is cheating ! Think about it
@michael cooper If modern baseball is so important to how stats work than theoretically Miguel Cabrera is the greatest hitter of all time because of his modern day triple crown. As much as I love miggy this is just not the case.
@michael cooper What I'm saying is Miggy is incredible but there's no way he's the best ever. I myself am a Tigers fan and would love to claim him as the best but that is simply not the case. Pitchers throw harder now and in general are on average better than the everyday pitcher. But to discount some of the greatest of the game as second par pitchers is to crazy. Hitters adapted and evolved alongside pitchers.
@michael cooper today's game is much different than the game of the past. Pitchers have evolved as well as hitters. If hitters like Williams and Ruth trained like hitters today I'm sure there skill would would stand above.
Something is off on a list that only has Ty Cobb sixth among hitters. He could hit for power, but he chose not to, because getting a hit was _everything_ in his day. In his era, the power statistic was triples, and he hit 295 in his career, second only to teammate Sam Crawford at 309.
No Jackie Robinson & Michael Jordan? Do not forget that Jordan was not only one of the greatest basketball players on Earth at 1 time, but he also played in the minors if I recall.. however, he was an above average baseball player in the minors ..not sure if he ever was moved up to the majors! He is kinda like Coach prime( Deon Sanders) and another guy that was kind of a fine Baseball player & a decent football player as well. Perhaps you've heard of Bo Jackson? Bo knows football.
Even though Williams did miss several seasons serving as a pilot in two wars, Ted still, with a world of opportunity to develop baseball rust, STILL earned the highest slugging percentage of anyone except the Babe. His dedication to baseball was the fiercest in baseball history.
Al was a great player and a very consistent hitter. With the A's, he played in the shadow of Foxx. Simmons had decent power but not at the same level as The Beast or Gehrig. But as you suggest, he's probably the most notable hitter who never truly received adequate recognition. Even Foxx doesn't rate very high on these lists.
To me and a few of my teammates would say " RBI's " IS #1 ..Gehrig hit 170+ 3X !!! ( He avg. 156 RBI's over a 10 year span after his 3rd season....WOW !! AVG. 156 RBI over 10 years in a row is UNREAL !! God bless his SOUL he was just 37 when he died !
It should be noted that Babe Ruth batted in front of Gehrig while they played together on the Yanks. Consider how many RBI opportunities Gehrig LOST because Ruth hit so many HRs which would have cleared the bases off when Gehrig came up. Phenomenal RBI man, the Iron Horse. Had it not been for that @#$% disease he would still be the record holder today.
Don't forget Ted was a helluva fisherman! I saw him personally in 1956 when Sears opened a new store in New London, CT. Sears sold his endorsed fishing gear. I was only six years old and he seemed like a giant when I stood next to him!
Forgot shoeless Joe Jackson baseball shoeless Joe was the only rookie two bat over 400 batting average. Since then no rookie is even came close to the prestigious 400##batshit
I am surprised that there was no mention of Ted Williams missing 4 or 5 seasons in his prime due to military service in WWII and the Korean War.. He probably would have passed Ruth in career home runs and also been the all-time leader in RBIs, not to mention his high career batting average. IMO, he was the best of all-time.
He wouldn't have passed Ruth. He would have needed 193 in those five years. He got 521 in 17 season, so that works out to 31 per season. He needed 39. He may very well have finished ahead of Mays at 660, though.
Whenever anyone talks about Ted Williams and hitting stats they should be required to say this (as one word all in one breath): NinteenFortyThreeNinteenFourtyFourNinteenFourtyFiveNinteenFiftyTwoNinteenFiftyThree Out of those 770 games, he played 35 in 1952 and 7 in 1953. The rest of the time he was a Marine aviator. Engaging in an interesting pastime such as close air support in Korea is Not on Metropolitan Life Insurance Company's list of Preferred Occupations...
I think it depends what you mean by great hitter. To me it's not just how many times you get on base because then why not use OBP. To me it's how close you get to scoring for every time at bat. I would almost always take a player with a higher slugging percentage over batting average. How many times it Ichiro just slap the ball towards deep short as he is already running to first base. Ok he got the hit but other players move up just one base. If he did this just 15 times for every 500 at bats you lower his average by 30 points. You compare this with Pujols or Cabrera that were pure hitters and moved runners around the bases. Their negative was hitting into too many DP later in their careers.
@randy K15 While steroids doesn't give one hand eye coordination, it does give power that they wouldn't normally have. Therefore the PED cheaters RBI's and homers would go down affecting their total number harshly. At least A-Rod came clean, something bonds isn't man enough to do.
Speaker and Shoeless Joe should be on the list. How about Sisler and Jimmie Foxx? Lefty O'Doul had a 349 average. Ross Barnes had a 360 average. There are also some 340+ hitters from the 1800s that totally get forgotten about by today's fans who can only relate to players of recent memory.
The way the game was meant to be played !! Mr. George Brett !! " NAILS ! " ( I am 55 now and remember all those wars those great KC teams lost to Reggie and The Yanks " and that BRAWL when Nettles kicked HIM IN THE FACE!! ( cheap shot ) George as he was sliding into 3rd base and he came up THROWING !! ..Then the infamous RAGE after they took his HR away !! LOVED IT !! That's how you play BASEBALL, with PASSION !!!
@@mikewhitney8615 --So were Pete Rose and Enos Slaughter. I have a baseball with two names on it-----Stan Musial and Enos Slaughter. Who knows what it's worth, although you could not pry it from me with a crowbar.
They call it three decades because no-one in the history of any sport knows how to count. I went to school. Brett won it in 1990. Guess what ? The first number is a one, in any century, and zero is the tenth number of a decade, so, Brett won the title in the LAST year of the 80's decade, not the first year of the 90's. Baseball, football, basketball , you name it, all screwed up, and it will never be fixed. The actual first year of the 90's is 1991. You don't say 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 and call it a decade. A decade is ten years, alright, but, the first one began 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0. Schooling helps. There is no year zero, and never was. Everyone around the world got so excited to celebrate the year 2000 as the first year of the new millenium. I still can't believe that millions and millions were that dumb. The year 2000 was the LAST year of the last century. Pick up a book sometime. Raining on parades here.
No DiMaggio, you gotta be kidding. Playing in old Yankee Stadium with those dimensions. It was calculated he lost 77 home runs in his career playing there.
kvernon1 Babe and Lou were left-handers who enjoyed the 296 ft. right-field fence. Joe was a right-handed batter who slashed most of his hits toward left-centre field where the alley was about 380 ft. at the fence.
He wouldve hit 600 easy in the new band box but then again mantle and Gehrig would’ve hit 650 or 700 and ruth would’ve hit 900 to a 1000 in the new stadium
In my opinion, you should have put DiMaggio in there somewhere, and I consider Ted Williams the best hitter there ever was. He had a 406 average one year and the rest were above 300. He didn’t strike out as much as Babe Ruth either. Ruth was lucky that Ted spent 5of his professional baseball years in the war as a fighter pilot. Just imagine if Ted DIDNT go to war...
Pretty good list. You could add Rod Carew, DiMaggio, Ken Griffey Jr, Mike Schmidt, Tony Gwynn, and...…. George Brett was the only man to have won the batting title in 3 different decades1976, 1980, 1990.
I just asked that in the thread as well. Kevin. This doesn't specify the type of hitter. Carew was one of the most difficult outs in baseball but I do understand your comment.
Oh, I agree. Carew was a fantastic hitter - a very tough out, as you point out. But, that having been said, I don't see him cracking into the top 13 hitters of all time.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? ( Lifetime . 338 ) and over his first ten seasons ( 1967-77) He hit . 356 ! + led MLB in Triples 7 of those seasons ( he's 4th all time in Triples ! and 3,028 hits . hit .388 in 77' and was always around . 400 until August, he was my favorite player ! ( I am 55 now and also remember Rod always kick'n ass in the All~Star games ! He is also 2nd all~time in stealing home , 7x ( it's very hard task! )Babe Ruth did it 10 x !! ( he's #1 )..I saw a great era as a kid in MLB and the NFL !! Great time to be young.......*
The Babe was absolutely THE greatest hitter and all around player ever . No one will ever come remotely close . And as for being a caring and genuine human being ,he's got them all beat with all his hospital visits to sick children and gifts and financial donations . As for his manly attributes ,drinking a couple gallons of beer ,doin 5 women at the same time ,eating a pot full of hot dogs ,smoke a big stogie and then go out and hit two mammoth home runs , now that's a man ! Ty Cob could of maybe been maybe a lot higher on peoples lists if he wasn't such a prick .
The greatest hitter who ever lived at #2???? No joe D? No Yaz? No Shoeless Joe? But Gay Rod? Where’s Jimmy Foxx? Ty Cobb at 6? Pete Rose at 9? Hmmmm????
Ruth had better public relations working for him, than Ty Cobb did. For all the things Cob supposedly did, Ruth's many flaws got written away by sports writers. George Sisler was a pretty good and underrated player.
The greatest hitter of all time is Ty Cobb. Lifetime batting average of .366 speaks for itself. Say what you want about Ty Cobb, he was and is the greatest hitter of all time.
Mel Ott was also intentionally walked with the bases loaded. When the opposing manager was asked why he did it, he said that way he could hold him to only one RBI.
He says Bonds was "routinely" intentionally walked with the bases loaded but I've only ever seen footage of that one time. He was routinely intentionally walked but not with the bases loaded.
George Sisler of the St. Louis Browns never gets the recognition he deserves, possibly because of the teams that he played on weren’t as competitive as the Yankees. Lifetime batting average of .340 and two seasons over .400 makes him one of the greatest hitters of all time.
I think you misspoke regarding Ted Williams' and the shift: the issue was that he adamantly refused to hit to the opposite field. He stubbornly stayed with his natural pull- hitting directly into the shift.
Mays should have been higher on the list he would have had the most home runs had He not missed 2 years to the military I think his defence was so exceptional it overshadowed his greatness at the plate
maybe not the greatest hitter, but, i'd rate him as my #1 choice for ALL ROUND greatest PLAYER - a true 5 tool player in every respect and he should also be higher on this list, top 5 for sure
@@FalconLair09 Yes, for the four major categories in baseball, Hitting, Fielding, Running and Throwing. Mays would have the combined highest average of any player, past or current.
@@richardeast3328 Mays was 5 tool - Hitting, Hitting with power, Fielding, Running and Throwing all at above major league average - i can't really think of anyone else in his class
Also both Milwaukee and Atlanta are warm and well above sea level. Launch Pads compared to NYC or most especially Candlestick Park. The ballparks Mays played 50% of his games in were absolute pitchers parks. I love Mays and Aaron. They are gods. (If you gave one of them roids at 30 Barry woulda had to hit 900 to break it.)
If ere gonna go hat far why not mention sadahara oh he hit it 868 home runs even thee he was playing in Japan he does hold the record for the most documented career home runs and what about joe Bauman in a 130 game season in the minors big joe of the Roswell rockets hit 72 home runs drove in over 200 runs and batted over 400. No one ever documented ever had a better year in the history of baseball
You need to factor in the three seasons Ted Williams didn't play in the absolute prime of his career. Hands down Ted number one. The year that Williams batted over 400 he could have sat out the last day of the season which was a doubleheader to end the season with above 400 batting average. He went 6 for 8 that day.
@@christopherhall4182 Christopher, the fact that Joe Jackson was your great uncle must be a great honor to you. And Joe wasa clean living, God fearing man as well as a great ballplayer. Best wishes.
@@Thefvkingoat ..smaller gloves .. Dead baseballs .. Pitchers had to bat eyc etc .. No steroids .. You mind does not want to expand the thinking .. I bet you think you could hv hit 300 .. Lol
@@anthonyrende6886 the pitching was back then is not nearly advanced as it is today, that's why people like Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, and Ty Cobb had so much success.
Tony Gwynn is definitely in the discussion. You have your contact hitters, your power hitters, and those rare few who supplied supplied both. We can go on for the rest of our lives trying to decipher who tops a list of the greats. Tony Gwynn struck out 434 times his whole career. Half the players in the league now accomplish that in 3 seasons.
ABSOLUTELY !! as DOES My all~time favorite, the GREAT HOF Rod Carew !! ( from 1967-77 he avg, 356 !! ( look it up) I am 55 now and saw the man play with the Twins and then with Reggie on the Angels ! * Carew is also 2nd all~time in sealing home with 7, I know just 7 x ( it's very hard to steal home !!) * Babe Ruth did it 10 x in his career !! FACT ! ( Unreal too ! )
marc Smiley true Tony Gwynn literally could have been the last man to hit .400 but 94’ strike ended i.I mean BA in today’s game isn’t as valuable as it was 10 years ago.
The only problem with putting a limit # on a "Greatest" list is having to omit other greats, for example, where are the names of the immortals Roberto Clemente, Ken Griffey Jr, George Brett, Jimmy Foxx and Tony Gwynn?
Great hitter and a tremendous speedster. Faster than Cobb. He even pitched a bit,calling his win over Boston's Babe Ruth as his greatest ever baseball accomplishment.
Tony Gwynn- 19 consecutive .300 batting average seasons, 8 batting titles, 15x all star ,3,000 hits, 434 total career strike outs, .338 avg,.....and even more records . NO ROIDS
Exactly, no mention of Gwynn but ARod and Bonds are on this list. Lame.
I think same ARod and Bonds should not be in this list Bonds and ARob are more power hitters . So Tony Gwynn should be in this list instead of this two.
Met Tony Gwynn as a kid, in Cincinnati, when I was an autograph hound. He signed every card I had including A Fleer and Topps Rookie and the Topps "Leaders" card. Also met Benito Santiago and he signed it too. The cards got stolen and it still hurts my soul.
Anyway, Tony and Pete Rose are my all-time favorites and they should both be top 5, imo.
Same with Ted Williams with a crazy career OPS over 1000
Pete rose could come back to mlb and go 750 for 750 and still would NOT have a better batting average then tony gwynn
Imagine the numbers Ted Williams would have finished with if he didn't spend FIVE of his peak years serving as a fighter pilot in two wars (John Glenn claimed he was the best pilot he'd ever seen - oh and he was also inducted into the Fly Fishing Hall of Fame) - if they were AVERAGE years for him he'd be near the tops in HR's and RBI's - but if say only 2 or 3 of those seasons were his very best he'd have gotten close to Babe Ruth's power numbers and added another dozen or so points to his average! I certainly he consider him the best hitter in MLB history as far as pure hitting goes. - It's pretty amazing Boston had him and Yaz covering that green monster from 1939 through 1983 - two guys in FORTY-FOUR seasons!
karl
all true, the Babe deserves to be on this list (leave off the steroid users) but Williams was the best!
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No disrespect to Ted, but how about if Babe hadn't spent five years as a pitcher?
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Ted was Fantastic would have had close to 700 HR's A HOME RUN IN HIS LAST AT BAT...!!!!!!!!
Tris Speaker is missing. Over 3500 hits and a .345 lifetime average. I'll play the video again because he just _has_ to be there.
Tris is a top 3 for sure. Still has records in the books today.
Shoeless Joe Jackson, even Babe Ruth said he was the greatest. If he could have finished his career he would have been the greatest.
Another good bet
Can't argue with you there Tim. He was, I always thought, kind of underrated and over looked. I know Americans seem obsessed with top ten lists and ranking things. You can't really do it for the arts but we still do. With stats like in sports I suppose it can be to some extent but in my mind once you reach that level of talent every individual becomes a unique phenomena that is his own gift to society and then it becomes a popularity thing. There are certain things that some individuals are just one of a kind at. Tris Speaker, at his best, you can argue was the best all-around ballplayer period...but...there can and will always be arguments LOL. When I was maybe 12 or so and read a short bio about the guy I became an instant fan.
No matter who's on the greatest hitter list, you'll never get it right because it's impossible to create the perfect list of all time great hitters. We all know who they are, but to put them in order, good luck with that.⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾👍
Pretty good list. These things are never easy to do. Tony Gwynn, Joe DiMaggio, Jimmy Foxx, Tris Speaker, Joe Jackson, Rod Carew all deserve a tip of the cap.
Ichiro and Griffey too
Barry Bonds ABSOLUTELY STUNK when it counted in the playoffs. Kirby Puckett won 2 World Series' in just 12 years with lowly Minnesota who never wins anything.
I don’t have stats in front of me, but Nap ‘Larry’ Lajoie is grossly underrated and should be considered. Hornsby is on the list, but I still say he too is underrated - definitely a top 6 or so.
I don't go by opinion. I go by Ted Williams list. Head a formulae that shows who and why they are the greatest hitters actually the list wasn't that bad but the two players that were left off for just that mean it was unbelievable because it specially Jimmie Foxx Jamie Foxx Ted Williams considered with Gehrig and Ruth the three greatest hitters of all time. He said. With production was unbelievable year after year after year everything perfect with those three guys Williams at himself 4th but any other guy I don't think you had on there was DiMaggio Ida Lee Williams had him around 6 to 7th lol
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As a Cardinals fan, it warms my heart to see Stan Musial getting his due respect. He was a true gentleman on and off the field......but where is Tony Gwynn????
Same here, Musial almost always seems to fall between the cracks when a best of list comes up. I also agree with you on Gwynn, and how about leaving Joltin' Joe off the list?
@@richardeast3328 DiMaggio? Heck yeah!
@@SteveLeicht1 poor lifetime stats
Stan the Man has to be near the top.
@@stevenmccart2894 My baseball hero, when growing up in St Louis in the 50's. He was the best player in baseball at the time, in my eyes. Only Mays, who came along a little later, Aaron, and Mantle were in his league at the time. Eddie Mathews was a great player, too, but unfortunately he doesn't often even get a mention.
Keep in mind Williams some of what would have been his most productive years sering his country as a Marine pilot in WW2 and Korea.
He and Musial were both taken from baseball for the war.
@@nanapatful So was Dimaggio.
@@nanapatful Musial only missed one year - you can't compare them regarding time lost to military service.
AND he Qualified to fly Jets
@@charlesstuart7290 Williams Missed 5, what is your point
Joe Jackson 3rd highest lifetime batting average in the history of baseball, Ty Cobb was quoted as saying he was the greatest natural hitter he had ever seen and Babe Ruth was said to have thought so much of his hitting that he copied his swing. Not sure how he won't be on any list of "...Greatest Hitters in Baseball History"
Joseph Penny, Shoeless Joe Jackson is my Great Great Uncle.
Yes, that was a giant hole in this list. Shoeless Joe Jackson should be among the top 5.
I've never heard a single writer, announcer or sabermatrician make the observation that Jackson's lifetime average is inflated by about 8-12 points due to the fact that he was banned at age 31 at the height of his talent and therefore avoided playing for the declining older phase of his career when he would've hit for lower averages and his lifetime average would've dropped accordingly to about .345-.348. Still excellent and Hall of Fame worthy. But honestly, no better than Tris Speaker I'd bet. Lots of romantic exaggeration just like dying young and leaving a good looking corpse like James Dean or Elvis, you become a legend forever....
@@michaelkaminski8339 Except that Jackson's declining years would have been in a period of inflated offensive stats. I think his decline to age would not have been reflected by his average and he would easily have hit more homeruns.
Go stick a baseball up your ass. @@gregrush3024
Rod Carew 7 batting titles , 18 x all star . 328 life time batting avg , 3053 hits
What about Tony Gwynn? He was a hitting machine!!!!
RECON ELITE really ⭐️👀. 8 batting titles as well ! Rod Carew too !
Thank you... I'd replace Bonds with Gwynn
Gwynn is top five but bonds is easy top 3 one of if not the best players of all time
@@SuperBosco24 Bonds was one big choker when he played for the Pirates in the postseason...he was also a drug taker so he does not belong on the list.
@@SuperBosco24 I'm not knocking Bonds when I say that. I don't care about the roids either... MOST people forget that during the that era steroids were NOT ILLEGAL at the time. Bonds was a GREAT power hitter, but an all around hitter, gotta go with Gwynn, he was just better. Bottom of the ninth NEED a hit, who you picking? situation
No Tony Gwynn! What could your reason be to not have him on the list?
i have an autograph of his on an a2000
Michael, you speak of things you cannot possibly know. I've seen Ruth's swing. Easily the most powerful swing I've ever seen. You are a brainwashed trendy modern airhead. @michael cooper
@Angry Grizzly lol you are angry. Defending a game
@michael cooper looking for others to back you up is a show of weakness. Stop arguing and believe what you want to
@Angry Grizzly he's in my top 3. Maybe #1 and possibly#1. I will say that Tony Gwynn sure as heck ain't worthy to be in this discussion.
A-Rod over Tony Gwynn? Absolutely insane
The only person A-Rod is over is Jo-Lo
@I’m a fat piece of shit NOT lol...AVG is a hitters dream
Rod Carew? Wade Boggs?
A Rod better for power and rbi's over Gwynn. Gwynn better for hits and batting AVG.
Jeter? I me my man has 3000 hits
My all-time favorite is Ted Williams. He was the last player to bat .400 and at age 38, he came within 6 hits of doing it again. And he was a fighter pilot in the Korean War
Harry Heilmann. At his peak from 1921 to 1927, Heilmann compiled a .380 batting average, .452 on-base percentage, .583 slugging percentage, and averaged 116 RBIs, 41 doubles, 11 triples, and 104 runs scored per season. He hit over .390 4 times and .403 once.
Heilmann was great, though overshadowed by fellow Tiger, Cobb. Some of the all-time greats, including Cobb, thought Joe Jackson was the purest hitter they'd ever seen. Ruth patterned his swing after Jackson's. When Heilmann was at his best, Jackson had been vanquished, never to play in MLB again. Such a horrific consequence to a man with a baseball talent for the ages. Poor Joe, he never lost his love for the game, playing/connected to semi-pro ball for 20 years after his ouster from the majors. He grew up in poverty and died in ignominy...from a heart attack at 64, the first of the eight Chicago players implicated and expelled after the "Black" Sox scandal...I think Rose is a pretty unsavory fellow, but both he and Jackson have paid enough-put 'em in the Hall. One the other hand, I don't think Rose warrants being on the list here. There's a number I'd put ahead of him, like Heilmann, Jackson and Tris Speaker, maybe Mel Ott and Jimmy Foxx...
@@fenwayify I get what you're saying, but I don't think you could have a list like this without Rose on it. He was phenomenal(and I always hated him because Ty Cobb was always my favorite player(it's complicated, don't ask), and Rose broke several of his records.)
Those other guys were great, no doubt, but Rose was top 5 IMO. I'd say Ty Cobb was the best(.367 lifetime BA is ridiculous), but objectively Ruth had better stats(and a very high lifetime BA as well.)
As someone else said, Tony Gwynn should have been on this list. He is criminally underrated.
I was surprised Tony Gwynn was left off. Growing up in the 80s as an Astros fan, I dreaded seeing him at the plate with runners on base more than contemporaries like Mike Schmidt and Dale Murphy. Schmidt and Murphy could scare you because they could change a game with one swing. But you could strike them out. With Gwynn, he didn't miss when he swung the bat. So your only hope with runners in scoring position was a liner right at someone.
I was thinking the same thing. Tony Gwynn won the batting title so many times.
Gwynn definitely belongs on here and considering Pete Rose is on here I think Ichiro should at least get an honorable mention considering that if you include his stats in Japan, he beat Rose's hit record.
Also, they couldn't find a spot for Ken Griffey Jr. WTF?
@@fuktrumpanzeeskum That's because there are more than 13 players in the Top 13. The barrell is just too full. After you give the historic players their due, there's just not enough room left.
I expected Gwynn to be 2 or 3. I thought Ted Williams would be number 1. Tony struck out less in his entire career than some of todays players do in 2 or 3 seasons
My first thought as well while watching.
I would put Shoeless Joe Jackson, Ken Griffey Jr and Tony Gwynn on the list. Here's a note on Ted Williams. He is the only player to win a triple crown and not win the MVP the same year, and that happened to him twice in his career. Plus who knows what kind of numbers he would have put up if he hadn't joined the Marines and fought in World War 2 and Korea.
Williams joined the USMC reserves after WWII so he could keep on fly fighters one weekend a month. He was ticked off when he was activated for Korea.
Griffey Jr. as one of the 13 greatest ‘hitters’ 😂
Please try a little bit to be objective. KGJr was a great player, not even close to a top 20 hitter of all time.
The fact that Gwynn isn’t on this list makes this video a joke
@@tyeikenberg8938 - Get real. Over the years, there have been many great baseball players. I am not ready to say that Tony Gwynn belongs in the top 10. And Living in the San Diego area from 1980-84 and 1988-91, I got to see Gwynn many times. No joke.
right on i was going to mention those facts about Teddy Ball Game. if you want to teach a young one how to hit tell them to read "The Science of Hitting" by Ted Williams
Regarding Ted Williams: He was a pilot in both WWII and the Korean War. This patriotism cost him much in stats.
That speaks volumes about the man.
Musial missed a year for ww2 also. it's crazy isn't it imagining today's athletes even doing the same.
Add 5 seasons in his prime to Ted Williams (military service). He would have been close to 5,000 hits. Pete Rose would still be looking for a DH job with an AL team to catch that.
@@r.crompton2286 Pete rose didn't have ted Williams homerun stuff;; it like comparing babe Ruth with ty cobb; plus ted Williams walk alot ; the great Japanese hitter singles hitter used to hit homerun in batting practice; ty cobb did that too. Homerun hitting isn't a special skill
Tony Gwynn never struck out more than 40 times a season. 1994 he was batting . 394 until the strike. he had 40 + games to get. 400
Precisely!
Tony Gwynn, should be on that list.
I stopped following mlb after the strike.
And he would have likely fell off but Gwynn was a great hitter and a class guy.
There was a guy in the 20s who struck out 4 times in a whole season….TWICE…..Not striking out is not the sign of a great hitter. On base Percentage and Slugging percentage are the two best indicators…..also, OPS+, which takes the league and the park into account…..The most outstanding hitters are Ruth, Bonds, Williams, Frank Thomas, Gehrig Foxx, Cobb, Speaker, Hornsby, Mantle, Musial, Pujols, Schmidt, Mays and Aaron. I know its 14, but oh well….
That's right, but did you know that Johnny Mize when he was with the NY Giants once hit 50 HRs in a season and only struck out 50 times A feat unequaled in baseball history
Jimmy Foxx should of been on the list. He hit for power and average.
Yes I he should be double x played no games no pun intended
He could replace A-Rod or Bonds.
YES! Jimmy Foxx was one of only six (6) players in history to have a slugging percentage of .600 or better. From the top, it was Ruth, Williams, Foxx, Gehrig, Bonds, & Greenburg.
@@34Packardphaeton Please, forget about BB.
Ted Williams said his hits were like firecrackers and gunfire
Tommy Lasorda told my dad that Ted Williams told him, that Ty Cobb told him, that Shoeless Joe was the best hitter to ever play. Alex Rodriguez out, Shoeless Joe Jackson in!
The amazing thing about Musial was his consistency. 1815 hits at home. 1815 hits on the road. I read an article which said that when you looked at Stan’s bats, all the ball marks were on the barrel, in a pattern less than 2 inches wide!
little know fact about Musial: he was the only player in history to hit 50 doubles and 20 triples in a single season. Just him
Musial started as a pitcher but injured his shoulder then became an everyday player. In 1952 the Cardinal manager let Musial throw one pitch in a game then he went back to the outfield.
Shoeless Joe Jackson should be in this list
Joe!
Matt Burke Shoeless Joe Jackson is my Great Great Uncle
Joe Jackson 3rd on all time career batting average list at
.3558
RBI 785
HITS 1722
HRS 54
OBP .423
SLG .517.
He should be on this list .
My favorite ballplayer.
His Birthday is July 16 .
Happy birthday Shoeless Joe !
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A A when Joe started in the mill team in South Carolina, he pitched but Joe threw the ball so hard he hurt 1 catcher's hand and broke 2 batters arms. Joe didn't want to pitch anymore. He became an outfielder with a nasty arm that threw out a lot of base runners.
Concerning Lou Gehrig - something a lot of people don't know is that Babe Ruth batted 3rd and Gehrig batted clean-up. In 1927, Ruth hit 60 home runs which means that Gehrig came up to bat an extra 60 TIMES that year with no-one on base because the bases had been cleared by Ruth. Gehrig had 173 RBIs in 1927. Can you imagine?
But also Ruth was pitched around and walked alot giving Lou some extra opportunities
The bats back then were heavier with a thicker handle. They didn't break as much as they do now. They were better balanced.
He had 184 rbi's one year.
1927 NY Yankees Murderers Row. I can believe that. The roaring 20s and the entire personna
Rogers Hornsby's numbers were amazing.
Ted Williams looked up to him and sought advice from Hornsby even though Rogers wasn't the most approachable person.
--Yeah--Hit over .400 three times. Not too shabby, including .424 in 1924. This video should have had a lot more info and been longer. Stan Musial would have been the first guy to knock in 2,000 runs, except for a year in the service as a strong, young man. He knocked in 1,951. Aaron leads the list, followed by A-Roids and Pujols, who will surpass , with natural talent, A-Roids, probably in 2020, as the Angels are mis-using Albert this year, holding him out out of 20 games before the ASG, and he STILL had 45 knocked in by July 7th.
He suddenly started hitting HRs in 1921. Gee, I wonder why.
@@petemeis234
Ruth knocked in over 2000 runs.
Hit .382 during the 20"s. His "22 and "25 seasons are two of the best offensive ever.
It's interesting That everyone seems to over look Ichiro ! A great all around player. Also played 9 season in Japan. Played 28 years of big league ball.
Ichiro was HARDLY one of the most dangerous hitters of all time. there are scores of hitters that were more dangerous to opposing pitchers than Ichiro. great player, but he doesn't even make my first, second or third all-time teams of starting 9
I hear ya. Being from Washington state, I saw all of Edgar and Ichiro’s careers (on TV mostly). If my life depended on a base hit, and any Mariner hitter could stand in, I’d choose Ichiro over Edgar and the rest. Good day, sir.
I'm from Seattle too. I loved Ichiro. Great all around player. Great fielder, great singles hitter. Good base stealer. But by every single metric, Edgar Martinez was a far better hitter than Ichiro. Batting average, Ichiro .311 Edgar .312. OBP, Ichiro .355, Edgar .418 Sluggling percentage, Ichiro .402, Edgar .515. OPS, Ichiro .757, Edgar .933. , Edgar's averaged 41 doubles per season. Ichiro averaged 22. Edgar hit three times as many home runs as Ichiro. Edgar averaged 8 more runs each season and he drove in twice as many runs as Ichiro. And if you look at their best 5 years, The difference is even greater. If I could choose only one of them, I would choose Edgar every day and twice on Sunday.
@@nikolatesla5553 I’m the first thumbs up for your comment. You make a number of salient points. However, as you first point out, their batting averages nearly identical. It’s a coin toss. I’ll stick with Ichiro for that hit.
@vinmansbakery Wow! I guess facts don't matter. If you said that Ichiro was a more valuable player because he was a ten time Gold Glove outfielder and a far superior base runner, those would be reasonable arguments. But it is silly to suggest that Ichiro was better or even comparable to Edgar at the plate. The only aspect that was similar were their batting averages. The name of the game is runs and Edgar created more by a lot. He scored more often by 10% and he drove in MORE than twice the number of runs. Average total runs yearly created by Ichiro was a highly respectable 132. Edgar's OTOH was a staggering 195!!
Anthony Keith Gwynn was amazing. Had he laid off the tobacco and controlled his diet, he'd have had at least 4000 hits.
I was a season ticket holder in SD when he played. What he could do with a bat was stunning. Best of all, he was a better man than a ballplayer. Beloved.
Watching two San Diego guys (Gwynn & Williams) was amazing
His playing in SD, just like Musial in STL, cost them both in terms of national stature. Gwynn was every bit the hitter Ted Williams was, but hit for less power,. He was San Diego baseball.
@@garylobo348 As good a hitter as Ted? There was one person that would never had endorsed that sentiment and that person was Tony Gwynn.
garylobo3 saying Gwynn was “every bit” as good a hitter as Ted Williams, just not “as much power” - That’s like saying “Wes Welker would be considered as great as Jerry Rice, if Rice hadn’t caught all those passes and scored all those TDs.”. WTF, man?
My brother took my nephew, then 6, to the Padres spring training. He was cheering for Gwynn and a woman asked him who his favorite player was." "TONY GWYNN!" "I'm his mother." She later called Tony over and introduced him to my nephew.
Lou Gehrig was an unbelievable athlete and hitter. Total beast and one of the most underrated sports figures ever. Always on the field.
And he was definitely suffering from ALS at the end of his career.
My brother who was a total baseball Stat geek told me there is a little known Stat about Gehrig, he is the only person to hit 4 triples in one game but it was rained out an didn't count, imagine.
@@johnevans8553 might have read that in autobiography about him. Rain outs and darkness were problems early on
Sometimes it's what you don't do that makes you great. Gwynn once went 35 games without striking out. That's over a month! Most players today can't go a three-game series without striking out.
What Gwynn did in hisera was amazing
Check out Joe Sewell, if you want to see a guy who didn't strike out. He holds the record of 115 games without a strikeout. and yes, Sewell hit .312 career.
The leader in that category is Dale Mitchell.
Wow a whole month without striking out wow;;;
@@dougbrowne9890 wow incredible
The thing I cannot grasp about Babe Ruth is how many homers he hit and yet started as an excellent pitcher for the Red Sox. He was the best hitting pitcher of all time. i cannot believe such a home run hitter could have also been a great pitcher but many times the best pitcher of a high school team is able to do it all, but not at the major league level. Cards fan from STL
Imagine Babe Ruth with modern training methods. (If you could get him to
participate, that is.)
@@SteveLeicht1 I liked your comment and especially the part about if you could get him to do it. I have read that when he came to St. Louis to play the Browns he had a favorite golf course that was located right next to where I went to college. At least he was getting some exercise. I would say that he enjoyed life.
Ohtani!
Rod Carew, Roberto Clemente , Griffy Jr. too !! I am now 56 and grew up with all 3 of these HOF GREATS !
Not Jr.
Geroge Britt was pretty good too.
Both Babe Ruth and Jimmie Foxx were walked with bases loaded
As was Barry Bonds.
And Barry bonds to bring in the tying ru
Christopher Harbour Has
My Ole man said Teddy Ballgame even looked good striking out !!!
@@gilliancarman5659 Guys on steroids are really dangerous.
No DiMaggio? You're kidding, right?
Ted Williams made the statement that Joe D. was the greatest all around player but as far as pure hitting (The splinted splender) dominated.
Crazy
Have to agree. Also batters must have been something to see during the dead ball era.
Joe D got Marilyn Monroe,That is enough for him
I'm a lifelong Yankees fan and here are Joe D's stats. He played only 13 Seasons. Batting avg .325. Avg # HR's per season 30. Avg # of hits per season 170. Avg RBI's per season 118. The only numbers that really blow you away are the batting avg and RBI's. I realize that stats don't tell the whole story, but who are you supposed to take off of that list to put DiMaggio on it???? Remember, this was a list of all time greatest hitters, not all around greatest players.
Everyone can't make the list, but Rod Carew was a great hitter...7 batting titles.
That's right Wayne, I posted he should have been on the list. With over 3,000 hits, as well as 7 batting titles. He was a master with the bat who could hit to all fields, and with pretty good power as well. One of the greatest natural hitters of all time. I call him a natural hitter, because he was born to be a great hitter, eve though the great ones have to work on their skills too. He tagged his hitting style on the mean streets and lost fields of NYC, which makes him even more remarkable. The compilers if this list need to revise it and add Carew, and Tony Oliva as well, another all time great hitter who played on the Twins with Rod.
Gosh be sheez a lready, why do I have to spell check every DANG word I spell here? I'm constantly spell checking this stupid phone, these bleepin' word tricks h e gotta stop already!!! It ain't me misspelling 'em!!! The stinkin' phone carrier is gettin an earful tomorrow, that's a promise!!!
@Dan Chapowski Were you there in the locker room when they ALLEDGEDLY took amphetamines to improve their performance on the field. Let's condemn the coke head players and juicers of the'80's, '90's and 2000's, rather than cast false accusations against the great old time ballplayers.
Totally agree. Plus he was referenced by The Beastie Boys.
Musial did the same thing
How on earth can you put arod & bonds on this list over Gwynn, HRS dont mean everything! This list needs to be re-evaluated!
Bond had one of the best career averages, hit 78 hrs in a season, walked plently of times in a season. A-Rod, along with his power and contact would become possibpy the best SS/3rd baseman of all time
Bonds*
In my humble opinion you really should leave the juicers off this list.
Because they're both far better hitters than Gwynn. Bonds is badly underrated on this list. Top 3 easily.
@@darrenhellwege6976 Bonds a far better hitter than Tony Gwynn? What game of baseball is it that you don't understand or appreciate? Tony was one of the best contact hitters in the history of the game. Up there with Ty Cobb,. Rogers Hornsby, Tris Speaker and Shoeless Joe Jackson. Or Rod Carew, a fantastic natural hitter and Hall of Famer. Bonds could NEVER compare to Ted Williams! The only modern era player to hit over .400 and hit 521 career home runs, despite missing 5 years to war service. All these players did it the RIGHT WAY, not Barry Bonds!
I'll not forget the interview that Hank Aaron gave while on "Home Run Derby." He was asked by Mark Scott, the narrator if he was a contract player. Aaron answered, "Are you kidding? All they gave me was a paper suitcase that fell apart in the rain."
How the hell do you include "juicers" on a list of best hitters?
Tom no shit
Tom Tunafish how do you include hitters of the dead ball era
Barry Bonds, as much as I hated the guy, was the best juice or not. Would be 1st if it wasn't for the juice...
Because it’s not cheating. All of the player in the Era used them to get stronger to stay on the field. Hank Aaron said that in his era they used greenies to stay on the field. And greenies were not allowed. So stfu. You have literally no idea what you’re talking about.
Jeff Samuels thank you
Ted Williams should have been number one. 0.344 career average, 2654 hits, 1839 RBI?'s, and 521 HR's. And, let's remember, that he missed three seasons due to military service in WW2. These years were in his prime ... and would have been his 5th, 6th and 7th seasons. So it would be reasonable to add 550 hits, 360 RBI's, and 90 HR's to the above numbers (to look at his "would be" career).
Ted is #1 in my opinion. Batted .400 could have hade up to 700 home runs, and maybe even more. He might not be the best all around, but he is the greatest hitter ever
... What beats Ted out for #1.. is that Ruth was also a great pitcher: 94 - 46 with a 2.28 lifetime ERA.
Yes, but when forming a list, you have to go on what actually happened, not hypotheticals. Besides, Ted only had 700 fewer at bats than Ruth, and close to 200 less homers, and his average was only .02 better, with his slugging and OPS being less. Remember, Ruth missed his first 5 due to being a pitcher as well.
He would had like 600 is he didn’t miss those years babe was just better
The year he hit .400 he didn't even win the mvp. Dimaggio did.
No one is even mentioning The Duke of Flatbush. He hit 40+ homers for 5 consecutive seasons 1953-1957
--You must mean Duke Snider. Some player, even though I hated Brooklyn.
Tris Speaker should be on this list, same with Tony Gwynn and maybe Ichiro.
I was so confused on why he wouldn't put ichiro over the people that needed steroids. He had 4000+ hits in his whole career without enhancements he should be on the list.
Tris has the most doubles all time (792) 6th in triples (222) hit .345. A forgotten great.
@Melo Bryant The topic is the 13 greatest HITTERS . Fielding doesn't enter into it. As was almost universally agreed during their time, Ted was the better hitter, while Joe was the better all-around player.
Joe DiMaggio the Yankee Clipper. A 56 game consecutive hitting streak and maybe the greatest 5 tool player of his era. I cannot see how Joltin Joe is not on this list.
Joe dimaggio was super great baseball hitter
Again, it's Stupid to make a list! Leaving Joe out proves that!
Against all white pitching, no middle relievers, no closers. Pitchers threw no harder than 85 mph.
@@holdenmcgroin9774 almost all of the players on this list also did that
@@holdenmcgroin9774 your Yankee hate is showing. But then again what do I expect from someone with your screen name.
Alex Rodriguez doesn't belong on this list.
Remember that Ted Williams and Rogers Hornsby are the only players to win the Triple Crown two times!!!!!!
People talk like steroids are resent . . . hardly . . .
Middle 50's till now is more like it.
Would.'nt you juice if it would make you rich and famous . . . give your family a more secure and
happy life ?
Anyone who is WAY BETTER than everyone else is cheating !
Think about it
Viturally every sport is involved . . .
Remember many of the accused did roids before it was illigel. . .
Just saying
@michael cooper If modern baseball is so important to how stats work than theoretically Miguel Cabrera is the greatest hitter of all time because of his modern day triple crown. As much as I love miggy this is just not the case.
@michael cooper What I'm saying is Miggy is incredible but there's no way he's the best ever. I myself am a Tigers fan and would love to claim him as the best but that is simply not the case. Pitchers throw harder now and in general are on average better than the everyday pitcher. But to discount some of the greatest of the game as second par pitchers is to crazy. Hitters adapted and evolved alongside pitchers.
@michael cooper today's game is much different than the game of the past. Pitchers have evolved as well as hitters. If hitters like Williams and Ruth trained like hitters today I'm sure there skill would would stand above.
No Jimmie Foxx!! That merits a double X-clamation mark.
Something is off on a list that only has Ty Cobb sixth among hitters. He could hit for power, but he chose not to, because getting a hit was _everything_ in his day.
In his era, the power statistic was triples, and he hit 295 in his career, second only to teammate Sam Crawford at 309.
Wade Boggs and Tony Gwynn are the only major league players since 1931 to hit .350 or better in four consecutive seasons.
George Sisler averaged .420 over 4 seasons, 50-54.
@@pjeffries301 Sisler's last season was 1930. He did not play in the 50's.
No Jackie Robinson & Michael Jordan? Do not forget that Jordan was not only one of the greatest basketball players on Earth at 1 time, but he also played in the minors if I recall.. however, he was an above average baseball player in the minors ..not sure if he ever was moved up to the majors! He is kinda like Coach prime( Deon Sanders) and another guy that was kind of a fine Baseball player & a decent football player as well. Perhaps you've heard of Bo Jackson? Bo knows football.
Ted Williams was a fighter pilot in WWII and later in Korea. His career numbers would have been higher without his answering the call.
Even though Williams did miss several seasons serving as a pilot in two wars, Ted still, with a world of opportunity to develop baseball rust, STILL earned the highest slugging percentage of anyone except the Babe. His dedication to baseball was the fiercest in baseball history.
Ichiro. No drugs. No gambling. Just pure hitting.
Al Simmons - Never get's any love on these list...
Al was a great player and a very consistent hitter. With the A's, he played in the shadow of Foxx. Simmons had decent power but not at the same level as The Beast or Gehrig. But as you suggest, he's probably the most notable hitter who never truly received adequate recognition. Even Foxx doesn't rate very high on these lists.
Stan Musial has already been eradicated.
To me and a few of my teammates would say " RBI's " IS #1 ..Gehrig hit 170+ 3X !!! ( He avg. 156 RBI's over a 10 year span after his 3rd season....WOW !! AVG. 156 RBI over 10 years in a row is UNREAL !! God bless his SOUL he was just 37 when he died !
also the most grand slams --- which will help the RBI stat
sensational situational hitting, and batting behind #3 who hits .300+ & gets walks
RBI's are more a reflection of what your teammates do ahead of you than anything else.
It should be noted that Babe Ruth batted in front of Gehrig while they played together on the Yanks. Consider how many RBI opportunities Gehrig LOST because Ruth hit so many HRs which would have cleared the bases off when Gehrig came up. Phenomenal RBI man, the Iron Horse. Had it not been for that @#$% disease he would still be the record holder today.
@@gregrush3024 And what about runs(scored)? Just the opposite.
I give it to Williams, considering he missed prime years of his career with military service.
Don't forget Ted was a helluva fisherman! I saw him personally in 1956 when Sears opened a new store in New London, CT. Sears sold his endorsed fishing gear. I was only six years old and he seemed like a giant when I stood next to him!
@@martinartale1999 wow, saw ted Williams in person
Forgot shoeless Joe Jackson baseball shoeless Joe was the only rookie two bat over 400 batting average. Since then no rookie is even came close to the prestigious 400##batshit
@MUFC Does MUFC stand for "Mostly useless Fucking Country?
I am surprised that there was no mention of Ted Williams missing 4 or 5 seasons in his prime due to military service in WWII and the Korean War.. He probably would have passed Ruth in career home runs and also been the all-time leader in RBIs, not to mention his high career batting average. IMO, he was the best of all-time.
He wouldn't have passed Ruth. He would have needed 193 in those five years. He got 521 in 17 season, so that works out to 31 per season. He needed 39. He may very well have finished ahead of Mays at 660, though.
Whenever anyone talks about Ted Williams and hitting stats they should be required to say this (as one word all in one breath): NinteenFortyThreeNinteenFourtyFourNinteenFourtyFiveNinteenFiftyTwoNinteenFiftyThree
Out of those 770 games, he played 35 in 1952 and 7 in 1953. The rest of the time he was a Marine aviator. Engaging in an interesting pastime such as close air support in Korea is Not on Metropolitan Life Insurance Company's list of Preferred Occupations...
I'm the greatest I just never made it past little-league.
Babe Ruth called Shoeless Joe Jackson the greatest natural hitter to have ever played the game of baseball
Michael McKinnon Shoeless Joe Jackson is my Great Great Uncle
In his prime Ichiro Suzuki was a great hitter.
He definitely should be on this list if we’re talking about the best hitters in MLB history! He’s going to be a unanimous first ballot Hall of Famer!
Good call without a doubt.
I think it depends what you mean by great hitter. To me it's not just how many times you get on base because then why not use OBP. To me it's how close you get to scoring for every time at bat. I would almost always take a player with a higher slugging percentage over batting average.
How many times it Ichiro just slap the ball towards deep short as he is already running to first base. Ok he got the hit but other players move up just one base. If he did this just 15 times for every 500 at bats you lower his average by 30 points. You compare this with Pujols or Cabrera that were pure hitters and moved runners around the bases. Their negative was hitting into too many DP later in their careers.
Forgot about Ichiro
but not a top DANGEROUS hitter
No Joe DiMaggio, Tony Gywnn, Tris Speaker, Shoeless Joe Jackson, or Roberto Clemente....BOO!r
DiMaggio was overrated.
@@leecowell8165 You haven't got a clue if you really believe that
@@leecowell8165 9 world championship, 325 lifetime, numerous golden gloves, hitting steak no one will ever break, over rated, delusional a lot. .
361 homers, 369 strikeouts.
Sure he was overrated.
Josh gilbson
Sorry. Drug-enhanced performance pretty well negates all the successes.
Tonetwisters or playing baseball in the dead ball era
@randy K15 While steroids doesn't give one hand eye coordination, it does give power that they wouldn't normally have. Therefore the PED cheaters RBI's and homers would go down affecting their total number harshly.
At least A-Rod came clean, something bonds isn't man enough to do.
Babe Ruth was walked several times with bases loaded, including three times in the World Series.
Nice stat dude. Nice. !!!
Wow
Speaker and Shoeless Joe should be on the list. How about Sisler and Jimmie Foxx? Lefty O'Doul had a 349 average. Ross Barnes had a 360 average. There are also some 340+ hitters from the 1800s that totally get forgotten about by today's fans who can only relate to players of recent memory.
Really, Ty Cobb at something like 5 or 6? No, Cobb at two or three I get but any lower makes no sense.
Ahhhh George Brett only man in history with 3 batting titles in 3 different decades!
Big deal!! That can be done in an 11 or 12 year period.
The way the game was meant to be played !! Mr. George Brett !! " NAILS ! " ( I am 55 now and remember all those wars those great KC teams lost to Reggie and The Yanks " and that BRAWL when Nettles kicked HIM IN THE FACE!! ( cheap shot ) George as he was sliding into 3rd base and he came up THROWING !! ..Then the infamous RAGE after they took his HR away !! LOVED IT !! That's how you play BASEBALL, with PASSION !!!
He was a throwback to the old days - all the way back to Cobb and Wagner.@Mike C
@@mikewhitney8615 --So were Pete Rose and Enos Slaughter. I have a baseball with two names on it-----Stan Musial and Enos Slaughter. Who knows what it's worth, although you could not pry it from me with a crowbar.
They call it three decades because no-one in the history of any sport knows how to count. I went to school. Brett won it in 1990. Guess what ? The first number is a one, in any century, and zero is the tenth number of a decade, so, Brett won the title in the LAST year of the 80's decade, not the first year of the 90's. Baseball, football, basketball , you name it, all screwed up, and it will never be fixed. The actual first year of the 90's is 1991.
You don't say 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 and call it a decade. A decade is ten years, alright, but, the first one began 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0. Schooling helps. There is no year zero, and never was.
Everyone around the world got so excited to celebrate the year 2000 as the first year of the new millenium. I still can't believe that millions and millions were that dumb. The year 2000 was the LAST year of the last century. Pick up a book sometime. Raining on parades here.
No DiMaggio, you gotta be kidding. Playing in old Yankee Stadium with those dimensions. It was calculated he lost 77 home runs in his career playing there.
But Babe Ruth & Lou Gehring played there too. I don't hear any stories about how many HRs they lost playing there!
kvernon1 Babe and Lou were left-handers who enjoyed the 296 ft. right-field fence. Joe was a right-handed batter who slashed most of his hits toward left-centre field where the alley was about 380 ft. at the fence.
@@kvernon1 Ruth hit more home runs on the road in his career.
His home/road splits don't lie. One of the all time great hitters who would have easily cleared 400 HR's in 13 years.
He wouldve hit 600 easy in the new band box but then again mantle and Gehrig would’ve hit 650 or 700 and ruth would’ve hit 900 to a 1000 in the new stadium
It is not the 56-game streak that stands out for DiMag, it is the 167 RBIs as a 22-year-old in 1937.
Damn that's a lotta ribbies
Stopped as soon as performance enhancers were used! So that was your first dude
I mean clearly it was Gwynn that was missed on this list.
In my opinion, you should have put DiMaggio in there somewhere, and I consider Ted Williams the best hitter there ever was. He had a 406 average one year and the rest were above 300. He didn’t strike out as much as Babe Ruth either. Ruth was lucky that Ted spent 5of his professional baseball years in the war as a fighter pilot. Just imagine if Ted DIDNT go to war...
I would add Ichiro on the list because of hit multiple 200 hit seasons. He never hit for power just consistency. One of the best
Pretty good list. You could add Rod Carew, DiMaggio, Ken Griffey Jr, Mike Schmidt, Tony Gwynn, and...…. George Brett was the only man to have won the batting title in 3 different decades1976, 1980, 1990.
You'd have to remove 6 players to put all of them on this list. Who do you take off? I cut ARod and Rose and add Pujols and Foxx.
Tony Gwynn , Rod Carew
Rod Carew didn't have much power though. Good, patient hitter ... but not a multi-valent threat.
I just asked that in the thread as well.
Kevin. This doesn't specify the type of hitter. Carew was one of the most difficult outs in baseball but I do understand your comment.
Oh, I agree. Carew was a fantastic hitter - a very tough out, as you point out. But, that having been said, I don't see him cracking into the top 13 hitters of all time.
I certainly don't have a strong enough argument to displace any of the 13 on the list. Perhaps a top 20? lol
ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? ( Lifetime . 338 ) and over his first ten seasons ( 1967-77) He hit . 356 ! + led MLB in Triples 7 of those seasons ( he's 4th all time in Triples ! and 3,028 hits . hit .388 in 77' and was always around . 400 until August, he was my favorite player ! ( I am 55 now and also remember Rod always kick'n ass in the All~Star games ! He is also 2nd all~time in stealing home , 7x ( it's very hard task! )Babe Ruth did it 10 x !! ( he's #1 )..I saw a great era as a kid in MLB and the NFL !! Great time to be young.......*
The Babe was absolutely THE greatest hitter and all around player ever . No one will ever come remotely close . And as for being a caring and genuine human being ,he's got them all beat with all his hospital visits to sick children and gifts and financial donations . As for his manly attributes ,drinking a couple gallons of beer ,doin 5 women at the same time ,eating a pot full of hot dogs ,smoke a big stogie and then go out and hit two mammoth home runs , now that's a man ! Ty Cob could of maybe been maybe a lot higher on peoples lists if he wasn't such a prick .
Shoeless Joe Jackson
356 career batting average is the third highest in the history of Major League Baseball
The greatest hitter who ever lived at #2????
No joe D? No Yaz? No Shoeless Joe? But Gay Rod? Where’s Jimmy Foxx? Ty Cobb at 6? Pete Rose at 9?
Hmmmm????
Yaz? R U kidding? His lifetime BA is a mediocre .285. Forget him!
@@34Packardphaeton Agree 100%. Only player below Yaz is Cal Ripken - THE most overrated player of all-time!!
Gay you
@randy K15 Tell him!
.... Yaz?? His lifetime BA was .285... and that's really mediocre. Pete Rose?? An over-rated bum, to be very sure.
Ruth had better public relations working for him, than Ty Cobb did. For all the things Cob supposedly did, Ruth's many flaws got written away by sports writers. George Sisler was a pretty good and underrated player.
Ruth also it like 700 more home runs than cobb.
Cobb scored more that where the game counts
The greatest hitter of all time is Ty Cobb. Lifetime batting average of .366 speaks for itself. Say what you want about Ty Cobb, he was and is the greatest hitter of all time.
there are probably 200 players from 1950 to the present day who are better than Cobb. Cobb hit shit pitching his entire career.
we are talking about hitting pete rose kicked all ass, just saying
@@greghogeback4178 there are so many more dangerous hitters. Pitchers would MUCH RATHER FACE ROSE than a long, long list of super dangerous hitters.
@@RobertMJohnson 4256 is the yard stick, we are talking about hitting right , thats just too funny,
@@RobertMJohnson 4256 rose, Cobb 4192, thats fucked up, i can count
Nap Lajoie could have made this list
What about Roy Hobbs? He had a phenomenal season for the Knights in 1939. He made his own bat, great pitcher and got shot by a crazy chick.
Mel Ott was also intentionally walked with the bases loaded. When the opposing manager was asked why he did it, he said that way he could hold him to only one RBI.
He says Bonds was "routinely" intentionally walked with the bases loaded but I've only ever seen footage of that one time. He was routinely intentionally walked but not with the bases loaded.
George Sisler of the St. Louis Browns never gets the recognition he deserves, possibly because of the teams that he played on weren’t as competitive as the Yankees. Lifetime batting average of .340 and two seasons over .400 makes him one of the greatest hitters of all time.
I think you misspoke regarding Ted Williams' and the shift: the issue was that he adamantly refused to hit to the opposite field. He stubbornly stayed with his natural pull- hitting directly into the shift.
And they still had a hard time getting him out with the Williams shift
@@kylekahler3381 He was as stubborn as they come.With his bat control imo he could have easily broken the shift.
Mays should have been higher on the list he would have had the most home runs had He not missed 2 years to the military
I think his defence was so exceptional it overshadowed his greatness at the plate
maybe not the greatest hitter, but, i'd rate him as my #1 choice for ALL ROUND greatest PLAYER - a true 5 tool player in every respect and he should also be higher on this list, top 5 for sure
@@FalconLair09 Yes, for the four major categories in baseball, Hitting, Fielding, Running and Throwing. Mays would have the combined highest average of any player, past or current.
@@richardeast3328 Mays was 5 tool - Hitting, Hitting with power, Fielding, Running and Throwing all at above major league average - i can't really think of anyone else in his class
Also both Milwaukee and Atlanta are warm and well above sea level. Launch Pads compared to NYC or most especially Candlestick Park.
The ballparks Mays played 50% of his games in were absolute pitchers parks.
I love Mays and Aaron. They are gods.
(If you gave one of them roids at 30 Barry woulda had to hit 900 to break it.)
I would have to agree
No, Hank is still homerun King. Bonds cheating keeps him off
He wore so much armour , he nearly stood over the plate .and NO ONE protested. So he either got his hit or he was hit a lot , unscathed
Oh the hypocrisy, Barry Bond's the greatest baseball player of all time. END OF STORY. + You actually saw him play with your own eyes.
Ruth 8,400 at-bats
Aaron 12,400 at-bats
Bonds 9,800 at-bats
@@WYHIWYG242 All Black
slibertas1996 hank Aaron took performing enhancing drugs as well I know I didn’t believe it either just look it up you’ll see it
How George Sisler isn’t on this list is amazing.
true --but Tris Speaker and Jamie Foxx should also be on this list
Pete rose has the most hits in mlb history. Ichiro has the most hits in professional baseball history, Ichiro should be on the list
If ere gonna go hat far why not mention sadahara oh he hit it 868 home runs even thee he was playing in Japan he does hold the record for the most documented career home runs and what about joe Bauman in a 130 game season in the minors big joe of the Roswell rockets hit 72 home runs drove in over 200 runs and batted over 400. No one ever documented ever had a better year in the history of baseball
ichiro was never that dangerous a hitter. scores of hitters that pitchers dreaded more than ichiro
@@RobertMJohnson my opinion has changed over time. Ichiro doesn’t belong on the list
@@adamlamoureux1660 good to see someone who can admit to changing his mind without it being a point of contention. Bravo.
You guys missed Rob Clemente and Tony Gwynn. A-Rod is likely undeserving to be on any list
Gwynn, yes. Clemente, no.
Hello John, please dont take offense, but Clemente preferred to be called Roberto. And you are correct- he belongs on this list.
Wee Willie Keeler. Eight straight 200 plus hits in a season.
You need to factor in the three seasons Ted Williams didn't play in the absolute prime of his career.
Hands down Ted number one.
The year that Williams batted over 400 he could have sat out the last day of the season which was a doubleheader to end the season with above 400 batting average. He went 6 for 8 that day.
Jim Rice was intentionally walked with the bases loaded long before Bonds.
That's only because he had Montana throwing him the ball.
In 1978 he was invincible to pitch
He's not only young, but stupid as well.
Tony Gwynn should be on it. High test Batting Average in the modern era. Oh and by the way Bonds admitted to using the cream and the clear.
Stunning Tony Gwynn fact: He had more 4 hit games in his career than 2 strike out games. My chin dropped when I learned that.
I guess you'll have to replace A-rod and Barry with Toby Gwynn and Shoeless Joe
Michael Laham Shoeless Joe Jackson is my Great Great Uncle
@@christopherhall4182 Christopher, the fact that Joe Jackson was your great uncle must be a great honor to you. And Joe wasa clean living, God fearing man as well as a great ballplayer. Best wishes.
Tony Gwynn
Tony Gwynn
Ted Williams won 2 MVP awards, not just 1. He won in 1946 and won it again in 1949.
You forgot Tony Gwynn!
highest batting average of all time -- TY COBB . the stats dont lie
The size of the gloves did !
And how racist and easy it was to play back then
@@Thefvkingoat ..smaller gloves .. Dead baseballs .. Pitchers had to bat eyc etc .. No steroids .. You mind does not want to expand the thinking .. I bet you think you could hv hit 300 .. Lol
He hit like 30 homers....
@@anthonyrende6886 the pitching was back then is not nearly advanced as it is today, that's why people like Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, and Ty Cobb had so much success.
Tony Gwynn deserves a spot on this list
Matt Sims not enough power
hal warner neither did Cobb and Wagner.
Tony Gwynn is the greatest hitter of all time
Tony Gwynn is definitely in the discussion. You have your contact hitters, your power hitters, and those rare few who supplied supplied both. We can go on for the rest of our lives trying to decipher who tops a list of the greats. Tony Gwynn struck out 434 times his whole career. Half the players in the league now accomplish that in 3 seasons.
ABSOLUTELY !! as DOES My all~time favorite, the GREAT HOF Rod Carew !! ( from 1967-77 he avg, 356 !! ( look it up) I am 55 now and saw the man play with the Twins and then with Reggie on the Angels ! * Carew is also 2nd all~time in sealing home with 7, I know just 7 x ( it's very hard to steal home !!) * Babe Ruth did it 10 x in his career !! FACT ! ( Unreal too ! )
Thanks for not putting bonds so high people call him the goat when he was so juiced
He wasn't juiced his entire career. He was a great hitter before he juiced. Other worldy after.
@@TK0_23_ I agree but he still isn’t the goat
Good list. Huge gap with no Tony Gwynn on here. A case could be made that he is the greatest hitter of the last 40 years.
Amen!
marc Smiley true Tony Gwynn literally could have been the last man to hit .400 but 94’ strike ended i.I mean BA in today’s game isn’t as valuable as it was 10 years ago.
Ruth, Williams, Hornsby, Gehrig, Mays, Foxx, Cobb, Aaron, Musial, DiMaggio.
Josh gibson
The only problem with putting a limit # on a "Greatest" list is having to omit other greats, for example, where are the names of the immortals Roberto Clemente, Ken Griffey Jr, George Brett, Jimmy Foxx and Tony Gwynn?
"...better list than mine."
I think Tony Gwinn should be on this list. He definitely deserves it more than A Rod and Barry Bonds.
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Great hitter and a tremendous speedster. Faster than Cobb. He even pitched a bit,calling his win over Boston's Babe Ruth as his greatest ever baseball accomplishment.
.340 career hitter. 257 hits one year. Another player with similar numbers from that era was Harry Heilman.