@@imanobody5898 Don't be. Ever read the Odyssey? When Odysseus is captured by the cyclops, he tells it his name is 'nobody'. Later at night, Odysseus uses a burning piece of wood from the fire to blind the cyclops & escape. When the other cyclops ask the blinded one "who did this to you?", all it can tell them is... "Nobody"
Man, that dialogue to Lagras... It explains so much details about Dutch's thoughts and Arthur's. Seems like Micah's manipulation was beginning to make Dutch forget all those years of Arthur's trust
Yup. This missions intro cutscene with Hosea also leads me to believe that it wouldn't have mattered much if Hosea had lived, because Dutch's descent into madness was inevitable. Dutch didn't like anyone doubting him, and Hosea was clearly against his more risky motives since the beginning of the game with the Cornwall train up to this point with revenge against Bronte ... and if Dutch turned on Arthur for his doubting, despite knowing him for 20 years, he would have turned on Hosea too.
Agreed. I also find it quite interesting the way Dutch split up during this mission. Although he was clearly scared, he should've gone with Arthur whom he knew for a long time instead of picking Thomas whom he met recently
@@Rude_Boi Yes it would have. One a argument where Dutch is disagreeing with Hosea isn't the end of the world. In fact I doubt that this isn't the first time that they've had this kind of argument. With or without Micah in the gang.
If I were Arthur, I would have brought up the situation when he told Dutch not to meet up with Colm but he did anyways, then got all messed up but still escaped and came back to warn Dutch that they were gunning for him. He owes Arthur more than what hes giving him here in this dialogue
Three men wading through a gator infested swamp in midnight with nothing but oil lamps and a few revolvers just to catch some cray fish or what ever... the struggle seems real.
*"You're gonna be okay, just thank your old uncle Dutch."* *"I heard that."* Man, this is one of the funniest missions purely because of Arthur and Dutch's interactions.😂😂
5:45 these are the moments that get me. I think Dutch sees the Arthur that questions him as a different person from the one he’s known for 20 years. He forgets that Arthur is literally like a son to him and these moments when he remembers hits hard and genuinely make him think. He had the same reaction at the ending when Arthur says he gave Dutch all he had.
Because Micah is a big, fat, stupid, blonde, beer-belly, lying, revolting, annoying, sinful, idiot, unintelligent, moronic, girly, coward, unsatisfactory, boring, shit fucking furry ass RAT. Dotch said to Molly "Go away I don't like you" and then she said "YoU rOiNeD mOy LoYfE." In such a Irish accent. Maybe he hates the Irish? That's probably why Sean died and Molly eventually. Oh my god.
Rdr2 does a great job at slowly establishing this character trait of Dutch. He ends up losing his mind but always keep a semblance of his former-self tucked deep inside.
I see it more as a manipulative tactic. You notice how he immediately shifts gears once he notices Arthur is being pushed too far to anger and distrust. He goes from complaining and calling Arthur out to apologizing, claiming he is just too stressed and calling Arthur "son". Dutch was a manipulative bastard from the start.
@@UnknownPerson-2004he should've been the leader in the first place since he was the one found and took in dutch and arthur if I'm not mistaken. Things would've been different.
@@princesssunmagic6309 uncle saw thru dutch in chapter 2 tho, you can look for point zero's video on uncle calling out dutch's ideology being that he wants everything and everyone to be his idea of perfect
played this in a dark room with my headset on and was scared shitless the first time through. makes me think rockstar could do a killer horror game if they wanted to
This is one of my favourite missions in the game, intensely creepy atmosphere. I love the fact Thomas brought up the Night Folk too, adds to the creepiness.
Arthur Muneh Boah Shore Morgan I wish there was an actual main story mission for the night folk like the murfrees as in “that’s murfree country mission”😞
I have to admit - Dutch's thinking about approaching Bronte's mansion from the swamp was *very* sound battle tactics. It is his motivation I find flawed. Hosea was definitely the voice of reason here, _but_ never forget, wise old Hosea also didn't think that Catherine Braithwaite could outwit him and Dutch... and she most certainly did for most of Chapter 3.
Exactly Dutch made it seem like a smart plan and it definitely was because Bronte would have made things worse but in the conversation with him dutch proves its more about revenge then it is for the gang
Dutch went mad after his head took a hit during the trolley robbery. - He starts talking ultimatums, either agree with him or leave the gang - Unreasonably becomes angry - Decision-making process becomes short-sighted Interesting to think what would've happened if Dutch didn't suffer the concussion.
He's was already starting to lose it even before then, around after the failed Blackwater ferry robbery. And a concussion did not trigger his psychotic tensions, Dutch became very embittered by everyone, especially Bronte, messing up his plans.
Dutch started losing it when he shot dead an innocent young lady named Heidi McCourt at the failed Blackwater ferry heist.He did it in cold blood.When John confronted Dutch about it ,he argued it was for he safety of the gang.But I don’t understant how an unnarmed little girl could be a threat to a 20 outlaws gang.
@D N Well Dutch's wife didn't rat the gang out. She did that to test Dutch and because she was drunk. Their relationship had been growing sour for a while.
If any of y’all are going for gold, I have some tips that might help - When carrying Jules, don’t spam the sprint button. Instead, go into first POV as I found out Arthur move faster this way - When shooting the Bullgator, you can dual wield your pistols, go into deadeye, Lock onto the gator with everything you got, and let him have it I’ve been trying to get gold on this mission for a while but could never get it until I tried those tips. I hope this helps anyone else who is also having trouble with this mission, too.
Thank you so much, I had tried this mission twice, the first try I did it without videos and I could not get the Gold, the second try, i did it trying to do what the Guy on this video did, I counted it on the stopwatch and I was faster than my first try, but i still couldn't get the gold, then, on the first try doing what you said using the POV I could get it, I was doing the mission and reading the comments to see If i could have a tip to get Jules faster, and I found yours. Thank you sir
“The others I can take but when your not behind me it hurts!” Such a good quote. The whole conversation is so good people forget about cause it’s in a swamp mission
Man my heart goes out to Hosea in the beginning. That moment when he even reaches out to try and get Arthur's support. And he was right. Yea Bronte fucked em over. Yea they had already lost Kieran, Sean, Jenny & The Callandar bros by then but going after Bronte was foolish and cost em dearly on the bank job. I wanted so bad to side with Hosea on this one
@Terry Gamble Bronte fucked them on the trolley station job which in turn led to the bank job going south. I mean, you can't expect to get the whole St. Denis police force on their tail, crashing the trolley, then not expect the Pinkertons to show up eventually once news got to them which surely it would've. "Hey, you hear about the big shootout that happened in St. Denis?" "No, what happened?" "Apparently, some folk tried to rob the trolley station, and it led to the whole St. Denis police force after em. They crashed one of the trolleys in the process. " "Sounds like Van Der Linde...." "Probably"
As a Louisiana resident I can confirm that waters that shows signs of gators living in it is very scary those things attack fast Florida people what's gators like for you
Mississippi resident here I'm trying to figure out how jules left with just a bite injury most people get instant death roll the moment a gator gets its teeth in them
@@bigblackjay900 it just depends how the gator grabbed you if the gator sinks his teeth in you you have a huge chance of bleeding to death and you know you dead when it violently shakes you but in jules case he survived because they could tend to the wound in time
South Carolina resident here...uhhh well we mostly don't care and stay with a pistol on us everytime we in the swamp. But again we aint that fool enough to go in the swamp at night lol
Florida resident here. I've been fortunate enough to never have encountered a gator, but my uncle, God rest his soul, once had one show up on his doorstep. My family stays out in a place that was once a swamp, so they get a lot of wildlife out where they are. There's even gators showing up on golf courses down here. Lol.
SPOILER ALERT!!!! "You'll damn us all!" --Hosea Matthews He is soooo effing right, I mean look what happened at the end of the game lol. I bet after Bronte got killed, the law somehow found out about Bronte (maybe through a Bronte member) and so they prepared. Probably that's how they were able to somehow find Hosea after he made that distraction for the bank heist. They were waiting for a possible thing like a bank robbery to happen sooner or later. If Bronte wasn't killed, mayyyybee the bank heist would have been successful, although they were already loud in front of the law. Rockstar knows best lol.
The gang should’ve immediately left right after being ambushed by the O’ Driscolls. That way, Dutch wouldn’t have gotten his head hit, and Hosea and Lenny would still be alive and well.
During the bank heist while the guys are waiting for Hosea’s distraction if you look at the front of the bank There were men waiting and saw the van der lined gang which implies the pinkertons knew this was gonna happen and waited and that’s when everything fell apart
Bronte already had the Pinkertons and Police tipped off especially since they survived the trolley setup. Dead or alive they still would've gotten ambushed at the bank. Killing Bronte doesnt make this happen, it was happening anyway. Kudos to Dutch for feeding that meatball to the gators.
An underappreciated detail is how you've been in the water the whole time, so your guns are dirty, prone to jamming, and take forever to reload... at a time where you absolutely want them to be fast.
What I like is the attention to detail when Jules gets attacked. Like how he sounds dizzy after getting attacked. Possibly because of the alligator’s death roll tactic.
No idea why there aren't more comments about this, but I found the time limit to be almost impossible in third person. The trick is to go into first person when Jules gets dragged under and mash Y/triangle until Arthur gets out the boat. From there you shouldn't leave first person mode, as it seems to drastically increase your movement speed in the water. Go directly to Jules, you shouldn't even need to mash A/X to sprint, in my experience I hit max speed by just holding the left stick forward. When he goes under again and you're given a search area, stay exactly in the middle of it and wait for him to resurface, looking round with the right stick to make sure you're aware as soon as it happens. From there as long as you wade in straight lines you should be fine. If you fail the time limit, just tap left on the d-pad, navigate into the mission and then hold X/square to abandon, then A/X to retry checkpoint.
If you do the part where you have to get him to the boat quickly in first person mode you're guaranteed gold. It seems Arthur moves really quickly in first person.
For those trying it on replay, it is possible without even leveling up stamina. You just time yourself as soon as you press Y or triangle to jump off the boat and if you're above 1'40'' when you get back, abandon and retry checkpoint : saves a LOT of time. As for the running, keep going forward to the edge of the zone when jules disappears.
I got in on replay. Just spam Y or Triangle when the scene comes beforehand and run only in straight lines. Jules appeared both times on the right from where he disappeared. I think the stamina thing doesn't actually slow you here despite being zero.
"i wanna see you meet your match when it comes to a ancient predator with a big mouth, Dutch" goddamn accurate. ps: RDR2 horror vibes >>> any horror video games 2018 'til now.
18:02 i made a mistake of looking behind me and just saw a huge ass gator head swimming its way towards me ignoring Dutch's gunshots. Honestly made a chill run down my spine
The conversation Dutch has to Arthur really shows a turning point in Dutch’s paranoia this part into the story. its truly terrifying how he is manipulating Arthur or atleast not letting Arthur defend himself in any way. How the music gives the player a under-my-skin feeling on this ride… rdr2 ily
I thought I was going crazy. This was the first time I’ve ever failed to get gold on this mission in about 10 playthroughs and I failed 3 times in a row and of course it happens when I’m going for all golds
I wish Arthur said something like “Really? I’m the one always bailing you out of the fights you start” when Dutch said Arthur was more of a joker than a gunslinger
Fun fact: if you shoot the big alligator with enough dynamite arrows, it will die. It isn't supposed to happen, so you just keep being in the boat. I've tried to sink the boat, the shoot the lantern of the outpost of Lagras. Turns you can only abandon the mission.
This mission one of the biggest proofs that dutch wasn't selfish he was ready to put his ass on freaking swamps which full of gators just to get to see himself and the gang in tahiti he could just abandon them and run away with that boat owner but he didn't
Ever since going into Killer Croc's lair in Batman: Arkham Asylum, I've begun viewing crocodiles as the most terrifying aquatic creature out there, even above Great Whites.
Arthur tells Dutch that he has been at his side for 20 years at 5:40 and and Dutch tells Arthur i know... I... I... am sorry son and when Dutch said the others I can take but when you're not behind me it hurts at 6:00
@@dionthacreator3499 oh the Braithwaite raid? Yeah that was fucking wild, but idk about intense, more badass for me. Them walking up to the mansion is always used in epic badass compilations.
Puneet Kumar Thomas saying “good eating” in that context could mean one of two things: 1) gator meat is tasty 2) gators attack and eat humans Hence why Dutch asked “us or them?”
On Replay mission. I found it out how to tricky! Do skip checkpoint. Its works! Don't need save him. But you must shoot at alligator after jules In boat. Start mission. You can skip checkpoint until you see alligator then shoot it. That very easy!
@@plr726 Not every Missions. Only some missions very few. It works when I got trophy! I was count 70 gold medals and it works! You see no check in box and got gold? That's fine.
Its baffling that one requirement is shoot the gator 5 times when you can easily shoot him 3 times that amount without breaking a sweat, yet you have to bust your ass & hope you can get him in the boat in time.
This game continues to amaze me everytime I play it, although sometimes the realism makes me angry in the sluggishness of some actions but whatever. the main thing is that it's so much like a movie or T.V. show I've even made a cinematic series out of it! currently at episode 9, but I need to catch up to GTA Series Videos lol. Great video BTW!
“I am here Ain’t I ? I have been at your side for twenty years “ ! If Rockstar would ever wanna return to the red dead world , I’d like it to be set 20-30 years before this so that we see Dutch in his prime and how he forms the van der line gang and probably have it as GTA V where we can play as Dutch , Arthur and Hosea !
This guy is just casually checking traps for fish in the middle of the night in the swamps like he does it all the time. Meanwhile I dare walk around the swamps at sunset and I get ambushed all the time by the night folk.
also a tip: Do not spam deadeye on the Bullgator, since it actually requires Dutch also to shoot it a couple of times to drive it off. If you do no matter how many times you hit it, If Dutch hasn't shot it it will just keep approaching the boat till it grabs Arthur
This is my first playthrough of the game and i haven't reached this level yet, but always knew that Hosea was always the brain of the group, if only there's a choice to save him...
It takes TEN minutes. TEN minutes to get to the point where you get one shot at saving Jules, with no skips, checkpoints or anything. SIX ATTEMPTS AN HOUR for a gold medal with this shit. It's unbelievable how padded an already very long game is and how it forces you to try, try, try and try again. I'm amazed at how little respect for your time Red Dead 2 has.
@@NallyNallyPlays amen to that, timed stuff with the sluggish controls and so on in this game is riddiculous, and i've done every goldmedal available in this game and i gotta say that it wasn't really worth the hassle, but it felt good "OCD wise"...😑☺️
Hosea was such a major restraining voice on Dutch. His death was a very significant event for the gang. And Micah was already poisoning his mind from the beginning.
"Well, I just wanna see you meet your match when it comes to an ancient predator with a big mouth." "Arthur here is something of a comedian, Thomas. More of a jester than a gunslinger." This is why this is one of the missions that I love. Arthur and Dutch's banter is hilarious and it made me laugh like an idiot for 15 mins when i first played it.
1:21 what a tv series finale feels like,as well as the last day of school before the start of summer & your last year in high school before graduation 🎓👨🎓👍.
the first requirement 1min and 40secs seems to be the hardest part for chapter 4 so far. tried 10 times now :( i also noticed when you went out of the boat to rescue Jules, you had a YELLOW stamina. were you able to drink a tonic before the cut scene?
@@Slim2Flo finally got it, it helped me when i tried banking shots with the bullgator while he was with jules first encounter. when you first go down to save jules, the game will allow you to use your gun to fire at the gator. make sure to make it count. just two shots will be fine. lastly. covering more on the screen space helped alot.
doybins thanks bro, but i think it just comes down to how fast he reappears, he kept taking too long and i even timed myself on a timer snd i was like 5 seconds over, i think im just gonna do this mission last for the 100%👊
hi guys im struggling in replay with this stupid objective too but I read down below in the comments that u can just get level 7 stamina running around if u get off the horse before reaching lagras so u dont run out of it in the timed bit. just letting u know, imma try it see what happens
@@Slim2Flo Try first person mode as it is quicker to move that way. I had this problem and read in one of the comments suggested this. I got it on my first retry. Good luck.
The later half of the mission basically felt like Jaws but with alligators instead of sharks. You could even play the Jaws iconic theme over that part of the mission and it fits perfectly.
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_"Don't look behind you!"_
These words alone can fill a man with terror.
Keichwoud357 I looked behind me
I’m a nobody
IF YOU ARE A NOBODY,
THEN YOU HAVE NO PERSONALITY!
MOHA MMAD well I’m depressed
Sweaty Bum Sex!
@@imanobody5898 Don't be. Ever read the Odyssey? When Odysseus is captured by the cyclops, he tells it his name is 'nobody'. Later at night, Odysseus uses a burning piece of wood from the fire to blind the cyclops & escape. When the other cyclops ask the blinded one "who did this to you?", all it can tell them is... "Nobody"
Man, that dialogue to Lagras... It explains so much details about Dutch's thoughts and Arthur's. Seems like Micah's manipulation was beginning to make Dutch forget all those years of Arthur's trust
Yup. This missions intro cutscene with Hosea also leads me to believe that it wouldn't have mattered much if Hosea had lived, because Dutch's descent into madness was inevitable. Dutch didn't like anyone doubting him, and Hosea was clearly against his more risky motives since the beginning of the game with the Cornwall train up to this point with revenge against Bronte ... and if Dutch turned on Arthur for his doubting, despite knowing him for 20 years, he would have turned on Hosea too.
Agreed. I also find it quite interesting the way Dutch split up during this mission. Although he was clearly scared, he should've gone with Arthur whom he knew for a long time instead of picking Thomas whom he met recently
@@Rude_Boi Yes it would have. One a argument where Dutch is disagreeing with Hosea isn't the end of the world. In fact I doubt that this isn't the first time that they've had this kind of argument. With or without Micah in the gang.
@@Rude_Boi Yeah but if Hosea lived things would still go a little differently
If I were Arthur, I would have brought up the situation when he told Dutch not to meet up with Colm but he did anyways, then got all messed up but still escaped and came back to warn Dutch that they were gunning for him. He owes Arthur more than what hes giving him here in this dialogue
Three men wading through a gator infested swamp in midnight with nothing but oil lamps and a few revolvers just to catch some cray fish or what ever... the struggle seems real.
Shlong Dong Millionaire yeah if I were to wandering in the swamp I could quit the gang in a sec
I always felt the risk/reward was off there, even for back then
@@brandongaspard1738 welcome to rockstar logic.
@Johnny Austin why are you getting mad?
@Johnny Austin Oh ok
Oh damn that talk with Dutch during the horse ride... I feel it building up into chaos
Storm - Dawntion he’s start losing his mind,sad man
If the bank thing just work out
The gang would be in Tahiti
Harvesting mangoes
And John Marston wouldn't have died
@@jasonwang3683 lmfao
@@jasonwang3683 you really shouldn't be in the comments if you don't want to be spoiled
@roebin couldn't do it better myself.
*"You're gonna be okay, just thank your old uncle Dutch."*
*"I heard that."*
Man, this is one of the funniest missions purely because of Arthur and Dutch's interactions.😂😂
5:45 these are the moments that get me. I think Dutch sees the Arthur that questions him as a different person from the one he’s known for 20 years. He forgets that Arthur is literally like a son to him and these moments when he remembers hits hard and genuinely make him think. He had the same reaction at the ending when Arthur says he gave Dutch all he had.
Because Micah is a big, fat, stupid, blonde, beer-belly, lying, revolting, annoying, sinful, idiot, unintelligent, moronic, girly, coward, unsatisfactory, boring, shit fucking furry ass RAT. Dotch said to Molly "Go away I don't like you" and then she said "YoU rOiNeD mOy LoYfE." In such a Irish accent. Maybe he hates the Irish? That's probably why Sean died and Molly eventually. Oh my god.
Rdr2 does a great job at slowly establishing this character trait of Dutch. He ends up losing his mind but always keep a semblance of his former-self tucked deep inside.
Nah, it's a narcissist tactic, he's trying to make Arthur feel bad.
I see it more as a manipulative tactic. You notice how he immediately shifts gears once he notices Arthur is being pushed too far to anger and distrust. He goes from complaining and calling Arthur out to apologizing, claiming he is just too stressed and calling Arthur "son". Dutch was a manipulative bastard from the start.
He's 100% manipulating Arthur here
“Forgive me if I can’t think to much about the mango harvest “ 😂🤣😭
I died laughing at that part. Lmao! 🤣
It's the line delivery that makes that great XD
That sentence got me dying 💀
Dutch should listen to Arthur.
@@princesslyna646 Dutch should listen to Hosea, or should have
“You’ll damn us all.”
Powerful line.
And he was right in the end
And Hosea was right
@@xenon3659 That’s why he became one of my favorite characters of the game. Hosea deserves more love from fans of this masterpiece!
Hosea was a better leader
@@UnknownPerson-2004he should've been the leader in the first place since he was the one found and took in dutch and arthur if I'm not mistaken. Things would've been different.
7:16
“What do you need?”
“You know Angelo Bronte?”
Spits
“Well, exactly.”
Funniest moment.
xxHYRAXx07 It means that he knows him because spiting is a sign of disrespect which also means that like most people he hated him.
What about
“Let’s split up: Arthur you take the right, and Thomas and I will go left”
“Wait what?”
@@patrick-xu1go What about when Dutch said "Arthur will go" and Arthur said "I will?"
@@patrick-xu1go Loved that comeback: Arthur, since you appear to be so at home here, you take the right. We'll go left
Simple human humor is what makes this game great. Not that quippy MCU humor.
The swamp at night is scary af.
Yeah kinda creepy indeed
This mission doesnt make it any less terrifying either
Especially with Night Folk and ghost woman.
Spoiling asshole I haven't made it that far yet.
I actually find Roanoke Ridge scarier.
Poor Hosea only voice of reason
How about uncle?
I’m real sick watta pack.. LUMBAGO
@@wattapack6330 It's a joke right?
@Andre Calloway yeah, when he died it was like the gang’s brain died
@@princesssunmagic6309 uncle saw thru dutch in chapter 2 tho, you can look for point zero's video on uncle calling out dutch's ideology being that he wants everything and everyone to be his idea of perfect
That mission was so tense, holy shit. Hauling Jules back to the boat while being shot near had my heart beat going fast.
Add the iconic Jaws theme over that part and it would fit perfectly.
Rdr2 is a horror game.
@@GTAVictor9128 yeah...no
@@Luka2000_ it surely becomes one if you stumble yourself upon the Night Folk
@@theonlybigsmoke wtf
Dutch: I don't wanna know what just touched my leg.
Lmao I almost died when He said that.
What about you using drugs
@@teofanesbaldozano9701 the fuck you on about?
@@Shertowin He's on drugs
played this in a dark room with my headset on and was scared shitless the first time through. makes me think rockstar could do a killer horror game if they wanted to
I mean, they did Manhunt...
Jeff Dunn Manhunt is great
Rodrik Forrester manhunt was good
I don't think there's anything rockstar couldn't do if they put there minds to it
wanted to mention manhunt and manhunt 2
This is one of my favourite missions in the game, intensely creepy atmosphere. I love the fact Thomas brought up the Night Folk too, adds to the creepiness.
Arthur Muneh Boah Shore Morgan I wish there was an actual main story mission for the night folk like the murfrees as in “that’s murfree country mission”😞
@@chaddylf3952 hell no! that would be scary as fuck!
laica01 which is why I would want that to happen😂
There is "A fine night for it" which is better than nothing
same
Dutch reminds me of Captain Hook from Peter Pan and the fact that he is scared of alligators made this so much funnier for me xD
Nice analogy, he kinda looks like him.
Who isn't scared of alligators though? Those log looking fuckers will mess you up
@@zoeyadams7429
I like alligators but not THIS big scary fucker
But forgotten about Smee!!😂😂😂😂
Dutch:Arthur'll go
Arthur:I WILL?
at 17:01 the way Arthur turns to and says “I will?” to Dutch always get me😂
When Dutch said that I said out loud “I will???” Aswell
I have to admit - Dutch's thinking about approaching Bronte's mansion from the swamp was *very* sound battle tactics. It is his motivation I find flawed. Hosea was definitely the voice of reason here, _but_ never forget, wise old Hosea also didn't think that Catherine Braithwaite could outwit him and Dutch... and she most certainly did for most of Chapter 3.
Exactly Dutch made it seem like a smart plan and it definitely was because Bronte would have made things worse but in the conversation with him dutch proves its more about revenge then it is for the gang
Dutch went mad after his head took a hit during the trolley robbery.
- He starts talking ultimatums, either agree with him or leave the gang
- Unreasonably becomes angry
- Decision-making process becomes short-sighted
Interesting to think what would've happened if Dutch didn't suffer the concussion.
He's was already starting to lose it even before then, around after the failed Blackwater ferry robbery. And a concussion did not trigger his psychotic tensions, Dutch became very embittered by everyone, especially Bronte, messing up his plans.
Sure.
Dutch started losing it when he shot dead an innocent young lady named Heidi McCourt at the failed Blackwater ferry heist.He did it in cold blood.When John confronted Dutch about it ,he argued it was for he safety of the gang.But I don’t understant how an unnarmed little girl could be a threat to a 20 outlaws gang.
D N I also strongly believe that Micah was a rat from the very beggining.
@D N Well Dutch's wife didn't rat the gang out. She did that to test Dutch and because she was drunk. Their relationship had been growing sour for a while.
If any of y’all are going for gold, I have some tips that might help
- When carrying Jules, don’t spam the sprint button. Instead, go into first POV as I found out Arthur move faster this way
- When shooting the Bullgator, you can dual wield your pistols, go into deadeye, Lock onto the gator with everything you got, and let him have it
I’ve been trying to get gold on this mission for a while but could never get it until I tried those tips. I hope this helps anyone else who is also having trouble with this mission, too.
Thank you so much, I had tried this mission twice, the first try I did it without videos and I could not get the Gold, the second try, i did it trying to do what the Guy on this video did, I counted it on the stopwatch and I was faster than my first try, but i still couldn't get the gold, then, on the first try doing what you said using the POV I could get it, I was doing the mission and reading the comments to see If i could have a tip to get Jules faster, and I found yours. Thank you sir
Not this video only help me but this comment help me out get get gold medal on this mission pretty easy…..
Thank you very much ❤
Thank you I got it on my first try
Thank you so much! 5 years later I've rediscovered this masterpiece of a game.
“The others I can take but when your not behind me it hurts!” Such a good quote. The whole conversation is so good people forget about cause it’s in a swamp mission
Man my heart goes out to Hosea in the beginning. That moment when he even reaches out to try and get Arthur's support. And he was right. Yea Bronte fucked em over. Yea they had already lost Kieran, Sean, Jenny & The Callandar bros by then but going after Bronte was foolish and cost em dearly on the bank job. I wanted so bad to side with Hosea on this one
didn't cost them on the bank job. The Pinkertons and the police would've still been there waiting whether you whacked Bronte or not.
@Terry Gamble Bronte fucked them on the trolley station job which in turn led to the bank job going south. I mean, you can't expect to get the whole St. Denis police force on their tail, crashing the trolley, then not expect the Pinkertons to show up eventually once news got to them which surely it would've.
"Hey, you hear about the big shootout that happened in St. Denis?"
"No, what happened?"
"Apparently, some folk tried to rob the trolley station, and it led to the whole St. Denis police force after em. They crashed one of the trolleys in the process. "
"Sounds like Van Der Linde...."
"Probably"
@@41Brother2 Bronte brought the pinkertons in. His plan all along was to turn them in.
As a Louisiana resident I can confirm that waters that shows signs of gators living in it is very scary those things attack fast Florida people what's gators like for you
Mississippi resident here I'm trying to figure out how jules left with just a bite injury most people get instant death roll the moment a gator gets its teeth in them
@@bigblackjay900 it just depends how the gator grabbed you if the gator sinks his teeth in you you have a huge chance of bleeding to death and you know you dead when it violently shakes you but in jules case he survived because they could tend to the wound in time
South Carolina resident here...uhhh well we mostly don't care and stay with a pistol on us everytime we in the swamp. But again we aint that fool enough to go in the swamp at night lol
I’m not a Florida resident, but I’ve been. Stayed in a hotel and even the lake right outside some of the rooms had gator warning signs lol
Florida resident here. I've been fortunate enough to never have encountered a gator, but my uncle, God rest his soul, once had one show up on his doorstep. My family stays out in a place that was once a swamp, so they get a lot of wildlife out where they are. There's even gators showing up on golf courses down here. Lol.
Have some G O D D A M N *FAITH*
Not when a giant prehistoric gator is after me
Dutch yelling at Arthur to hurry up sounded so genuine.
That was thomas
king 10k No it was Dutch. Listen more closely
Arthur was his best friend for 20 years. Of course Dutch actually cared in spite of what he said
"There simply isn't a reality in which we do nothing, and get everything." Pretty good words to live by
tell that to the politicians
@@landlockedcroat1554true 😡
true tho
SPOILER ALERT!!!!
"You'll damn us all!" --Hosea Matthews
He is soooo effing right, I mean look what happened at the end of the game lol. I bet after Bronte got killed, the law somehow found out about Bronte (maybe through a Bronte member) and so they prepared. Probably that's how they were able to somehow find Hosea after he made that distraction for the bank heist. They were waiting for a possible thing like a bank robbery to happen sooner or later.
If Bronte wasn't killed, mayyyybee the bank heist would have been successful, although they were already loud in front of the law. Rockstar knows best lol.
@@ДанилоГромяк Bell informed Pinks after he came back from Guarma.
@Eftinoiu Eduard I never stated otherwise
The gang should’ve immediately left right after being ambushed by the O’ Driscolls. That way, Dutch wouldn’t have gotten his head hit, and Hosea and Lenny would still be alive and well.
During the bank heist while the guys are waiting for Hosea’s distraction if you look at the front of the bank
There were men waiting and saw the van der lined gang which implies the pinkertons knew this was gonna happen and waited and that’s when everything fell apart
Bronte already had the Pinkertons and Police tipped off especially since they survived the trolley setup. Dead or alive they still would've gotten ambushed at the bank. Killing Bronte doesnt make this happen, it was happening anyway. Kudos to Dutch for feeding that meatball to the gators.
This is one of my favorite missions in the game. The atmosphere is just perfect in this mission
Nah it’s one of the worst
9:16
"I dont want to know what just touched my leg"
I died laughing
What a croc. He survived from that bite.
xXSilentAgent47Xx “yep, gonna have a stiff one tonight”
Found ya again
An underappreciated detail is how you've been in the water the whole time, so your guns are dirty, prone to jamming, and take forever to reload... at a time where you absolutely want them to be fast.
yeah its underappreciated for a reason, cowpoke.
What I like is the attention to detail when Jules gets attacked. Like how he sounds dizzy after getting attacked. Possibly because of the alligator’s death roll tactic.
No idea why there aren't more comments about this, but I found the time limit to be almost impossible in third person. The trick is to go into first person when Jules gets dragged under and mash Y/triangle until Arthur gets out the boat. From there you shouldn't leave first person mode, as it seems to drastically increase your movement speed in the water. Go directly to Jules, you shouldn't even need to mash A/X to sprint, in my experience I hit max speed by just holding the left stick forward. When he goes under again and you're given a search area, stay exactly in the middle of it and wait for him to resurface, looking round with the right stick to make sure you're aware as soon as it happens. From there as long as you wade in straight lines you should be fine. If you fail the time limit, just tap left on the d-pad, navigate into the mission and then hold X/square to abandon, then A/X to retry checkpoint.
Ok
God amongst men, appreciate it friend
I played it several times in third and first person. No chance, the time limits are stupid and i hate this game more and more. Shit developers!
thanks, bro. It worked. I moved in FPS towards Jules and then back to the boat with him.
Anyone else get lake placid vibes from this mission..that swamp at night is actually scary
Lmao yup! I actually just put up a fic about this titled Lake Placid XD
@@wolffrost8910 i want a link. I wanna read it
Oh my god, you're so right!
Dutch said Micah is the only one with loyalty. Maybe that bump on the head at the trolley station really made him go insane.
"Normally the little ones is angry, big ones is lazy!"
Laughed so hard at that line for some reason
Because its true, the big ones have to waste lot of energy just to swing in the water, they dont give a single damn unless you harrass them
M A N G O E S
*T A H I T I*
@@defalt7023 HAVE SOME
G O D D A M N
F A I T H
*I HAVE A PLAN*
*WE JUST NEED SOME*
*M O N E Y*
B O A T
B O A T
I never noticed before, but at 16:47 you can see the light of the gators eyes approaching Jules from the right. That shit is spooky asf.
Damn. Never noticed it before
That’s a firefly
21:08 Is my favourite part “I Guess he never outgrew his anger kinda reminds me of you Arthur” Gets me every time 😂
Dutch should've been grateful that Arthur was willing to go swim in water full of alligators so he didn't have to.
If you do the part where you have to get him to the boat quickly in first person mode you're guaranteed gold. It seems Arthur moves really quickly in first person.
This comment saved me
Imagine doing this shit in real life
No way I'd do it, even if I was paid a lot of money :D
@@dungcheeseMORK999 but arhor we need muneh to get to Tahiti boah
Hell no I would throw a grenade to check everything is dead
No, not even for a million dollars
A lot more gators, but they're a little bit more smaller.
8:15 my favorite line in the game
One of the best 😂
"Have some goddamn faith, Arthur!"
oh so this is where the meme come from
Just thank your old uncle Dutch
I love Arthur too much XD
4:25 Gary's but quote from the mission "The Slingshot" from Bully...
Coincidence?!
I cant imagine the gang settling down. Itd only be a matter of time before Bill or Micah got bored and shot someone, then theyd have to move on again.
Or Sean
I don't think Bill is that kind of person
@@Nibbenji2077 I don’t think ol’ Sean will be doing much shooting anymore.
@@noamias4897 Bill is more likely to get shot after starting a brawl.
Scariest mission in any Rockstar game
17:04 Nobody's gonna talk about how Arthur ran inside the water?
I mean the swamp sometime deep and sometime not deep. Since Arthur are tall,he can traverse the swamp fine
@@undeadjohnmarston4661 *IS
i like the way thomas says: “big ones is lazy”
Scary mission.
For those trying it on replay, it is possible without even leveling up stamina. You just time yourself as soon as you press Y or triangle to jump off the boat and if you're above 1'40'' when you get back, abandon and retry checkpoint : saves a LOT of time. As for the running, keep going forward to the edge of the zone when jules disappears.
I got in on replay. Just spam Y or Triangle when the scene comes beforehand and run only in straight lines. Jules appeared both times on the right from where he disappeared. I think the stamina thing doesn't actually slow you here despite being zero.
"i wanna see you meet your match when it comes to a ancient predator with a big mouth, Dutch"
goddamn accurate.
ps: RDR2 horror vibes >>> any horror video games 2018 'til now.
This is when Arthur is losing his faith in Dutch and his descend into madness
What scares me the most is that Dutch hasn't been wrong, per say, just has problems planning it out.
18:02 i made a mistake of looking behind me and just saw a huge ass gator head swimming its way towards me ignoring Dutch's gunshots. Honestly made a chill run down my spine
The conversation Dutch has to Arthur really shows a turning point in Dutch’s paranoia this part into the story. its truly terrifying how he is manipulating Arthur or atleast not letting Arthur defend himself in any way. How the music gives the player a under-my-skin feeling on this ride… rdr2 ily
For the gold medal, chase after and return Jules in First-Person mode!! And keep spamming X on ps4, or A on xbox
I can confirm this works. Also had some luck when Juules popped out near me. Thanks for the tip. As of 8/15/19.
I thought I was going crazy. This was the first time I’ve ever failed to get gold on this mission in about 10 playthroughs and I failed 3 times in a row and of course it happens when I’m going for all golds
best tip i've had for this. thanks very much
March 2021 , this method still work , Thanks Man!
4:32
“If you’d rather we break up the family and go our separate ways...”
Unfortunately, that’s exactly what happened thanks to dutch’s ego.
I love the way Dutch always pronounces Arthur's name. "Rthur"
Dutch: You think Micah would question going after bronte? no he’d say let’s go”
Me: ok but he DIDNT even go with the gang to kill bronte.
8:15
Probably the funniest joke of the entire game.
Too right.
I wish Arthur said something like “Really? I’m the one always bailing you out of the fights you start” when Dutch said Arthur was more of a joker than a gunslinger
Fun fact: if you shoot the big alligator with enough dynamite arrows, it will die. It isn't supposed to happen, so you just keep being in the boat. I've tried to sink the boat, the shoot the lantern of the outpost of Lagras. Turns you can only abandon the mission.
you can kill it in chapter 6. It's the legendary bull gator
This mission one of the biggest proofs that dutch wasn't selfish he was ready to put his ass on freaking swamps which full of gators just to get to see himself and the gang in tahiti he could just abandon them and run away with that boat owner but he didn't
Ever since going into Killer Croc's lair in Batman: Arkham Asylum, I've begun viewing crocodiles as the most terrifying aquatic creature out there, even above Great Whites.
Arthur tells Dutch that he has been at his side for 20 years at 5:40 and and Dutch tells Arthur i know... I... I... am sorry son and when Dutch said the others I can take but when you're not behind me it hurts at 6:00
9:15 this gets me every time, i always burst laughting lmao.
This mission was like the most intense shit ive experienced in this game 🤣🤣🤣
Dino Fabela what about when Dutch and the gang went to that Lady’s house and burned down her world
@@dionthacreator3499 oh the Braithwaite raid? Yeah that was fucking wild, but idk about intense, more badass for me. Them walking up to the mansion is always used in epic badass compilations.
"my God there's no shortage of them"
"Good eating"
"Us, or them ?......."
"Exactly."
Puneet Kumar Thomas saying “good eating” in that context could mean one of two things:
1) gator meat is tasty
2) gators attack and eat humans
Hence why Dutch asked “us or them?”
On Replay mission. I found it out how to tricky! Do skip checkpoint. Its works! Don't need save him. But you must shoot at alligator after jules In boat. Start mission. You can skip checkpoint until you see alligator then shoot it. That very easy!
Max Payne WoW it's work thank you! ,So this trick will work with every mission?
@@plr726 Not every Missions. Only some missions very few. It works when I got trophy! I was count 70 gold medals and it works! You see no check in box and got gold? That's fine.
Thx for big Halp
Can someone explain this clearer, I'm trying to hardest to understand what he's telling me to do. What do you mean skip checkpoint
@@MKbov68 Fail mission 3 times then you will see skip checkpoint. You can click abort mission. Click left D pad. I think. You will see it.
The two only fucking most scariest things in the swamp in Red Dead Redemption is *alligators* and *The Night Folk.* Comment if you think I’m wrong.
Its baffling that one requirement is shoot the gator 5 times when you can easily shoot him 3 times that amount without breaking a sweat, yet you have to bust your ass & hope you can get him in the boat in time.
This game continues to amaze me everytime I play it, although sometimes the realism makes me angry in the sluggishness of some actions but whatever. the main thing is that it's so much like a movie or T.V. show I've even made a cinematic series out of it! currently at episode 9, but I need to catch up to GTA Series Videos lol. Great video BTW!
100 percented this game I feel so empty now
Imagine what the community will create with the Rockstar Editor
@@frenchtoad1308 I kinda want to start the game all over again to make a better cinematic version but I have some other ideas in my book!
@@NamePend Express your creativity my friend ;)
Love the Videos! Keep Up The Grind!
I thought the gators would be attracted to the lights coming from the lanterns.
The whole time I was thinking, "Are the crawfish really this important?"
Thomas: "Feed'em garlic for the infection!..."
I wonder if that still works...
Tried it still works .. 1905
“I am here Ain’t I ? I have been at your side for twenty years “ !
If Rockstar would ever wanna return to the red dead world , I’d like it to be set 20-30 years before this so that we see Dutch in his prime and how he forms the van der line gang and probably have it as GTA V where we can play as Dutch , Arthur and Hosea !
Heck. Maybe at the setting of the us civil war time.
This guy is just casually checking traps for fish in the middle of the night in the swamps like he does it all the time.
Meanwhile I dare walk around the swamps at sunset and I get ambushed all the time by the night folk.
That Crocodile growl sounds like the Crocodile from Lake Placid
One of the best scenes ever experienced 👍
Dutch: "Bronte don't mean shit to me."
Also Dutch literally one mission later: "You impulsive little maggot!"
“You can see why evening swamp-wading hasn’t caught on as a past-time, can’t you?” 🤣🤣
"I don't wanna know what just touched my leg" LMFAO.
Very nice mission but scary as f!
Forgot how good the atmosphere was for this mission. Especially if played in first person.
I'm glad you actually do save Jules though.
also a tip: Do not spam deadeye on the Bullgator, since it actually requires Dutch also to shoot it a couple of times to drive it off.
If you do no matter how many times you hit it, If Dutch hasn't shot it it will just keep approaching the boat till it grabs Arthur
Does the part where Arthur runs back to the boat remind you of the pier scene in Jaws?
I thought I was the only one that caught on to that
This is my first playthrough of the game and i haven't reached this level yet, but always knew that Hosea was always the brain of the group, if only there's a choice to save him...
Actually that gator could’ve done a lot worse, from what I saw, it just skinned his leg. It was big enough to tear his entire body limb from limb.
Another BS time mission that you do perfectly but some how get silver
I can't begin to explain how many missions this game has screwed me for gold yet I'm still trying for the 70 gold
It takes TEN minutes. TEN minutes to get to the point where you get one shot at saving Jules, with no skips, checkpoints or anything. SIX ATTEMPTS AN HOUR for a gold medal with this shit. It's unbelievable how padded an already very long game is and how it forces you to try, try, try and try again. I'm amazed at how little respect for your time Red Dead 2 has.
@@NallyNallyPlays amen to that, timed stuff with the sluggish controls and so on in this game is riddiculous, and i've done every goldmedal available in this game and i gotta say that it wasn't really worth the hassle, but it felt good "OCD wise"...😑☺️
The gameplay in rdr 2 is shit. To this aspect this so called masterpiece miserably failed!
@@uninvitedguest9616 Thanks! It worked, for whatever reason
Moments that made me laugh for no reason 8:15 9:16 11:55 17:00 18:01 19:43 and 21:08 😂 Dutch and Arthur here in this mission was funny😂😂😂
Hosea was such a major restraining voice on Dutch. His death was a very significant event for the gang. And Micah was already poisoning his mind from the beginning.
"Well, I just wanna see you meet your match when it comes to an ancient predator with a big mouth."
"Arthur here is something of a comedian, Thomas. More of a jester than a gunslinger."
This is why this is one of the missions that I love. Arthur and Dutch's banter is hilarious and it made me laugh like an idiot for 15 mins when i first played it.
1:21 what a tv series finale feels like,as well as the last day of school before the start of summer & your last year in high school before graduation 🎓👨🎓👍.
Hosea saying you'll damn us all was right, after Dutch hit his head in that robbery he wasn't the same and damned the gang
İf only dutch listened to hosea.
Princess Starlaixy Arixes Yes and the bank heist would have suceeded
the first requirement 1min and 40secs seems to be the hardest part for chapter 4 so far. tried 10 times now
:( i also noticed when you went out of the boat to rescue Jules, you had a YELLOW stamina. were you able to drink a tonic before the cut scene?
doybins me too its pissing me off so stupid.
@@Slim2Flo finally got it, it helped me when i tried banking shots with the bullgator while he was with jules first encounter. when you first go down to save jules, the game will allow you to use your gun to fire at the gator. make sure to make it count. just two shots will be fine. lastly. covering more on the screen space helped alot.
doybins thanks bro, but i think it just comes down to how fast he reappears, he kept taking too long and i even timed myself on a timer snd i was like 5 seconds over, i think im just gonna do this mission last for the 100%👊
hi guys im struggling in replay with this stupid objective too but I read down below in the comments that u can just get level 7 stamina running around if u get off the horse before reaching lagras so u dont run out of it in the timed bit. just letting u know, imma try it see what happens
@@Slim2Flo Try first person mode as it is quicker to move that way. I had this problem and read in one of the comments suggested this. I got it on my first retry. Good luck.
4:51
Dutch was definitely becoming unhinged by this point, but that quote is very solid.
The later half of the mission basically felt like Jaws but with alligators instead of sharks. You could even play the Jaws iconic theme over that part of the mission and it fits perfectly.
This mission scared tf out of me on my first play through especially when he starts talking about the night folk