*SPEACEX DOES NOT MESS AROUND....????* Dude the 4th Saturn V flight landed people on the Moon....!!! The 5th Starship launch didn't even reach orbit Spacex does NOTHING BUT mess around
With the audio re "1 second from failure", despite the damage to the chines etc etc the booster still completed it's task and is a good indication of how robust things are. Bit like in WW2, aeroplanes would return to base missing parts and shot to pieces, it showed designers they got it right and to focus in other areas.
Lots of extra stuff not covered elsewhere, thank you, that info on the valves under the broken panel, the medical condition of the returning NASA astronaut, the video of the second stage from the fairing's view, Blue Origin news, Axiom moonsuits, multistart Raptor tests, the list of extra information went on and on, great work.
I still can't believe how much heat and force those Raptors throw out the back and that SpaceX built a structure that can (somewhat) withstand that torture. Add the recent catch and it's even more incredible, yet still it is very real.
Oh, I mean there was probably many things that could have gone wrong. This insight made me say WOW! too. Just 1 second longer and we may have had a very different result. Lucky, but incredible. Always something to improve.
Sounds like Gwynne Shotwell in the background maybe? Very, very lucky with this one, the holes in the Swiss cheese almost lined up, single point failure equipment housed under a cover they were not 100% sure would survive phew! Looking forward to the next one, keep up the good work Marcus.
Given the final "ad" specs of the Axiom suit that includes "Boots Engineered to Withstand Lunar Temps and Rough Terrain". Isn't that the basic requirement for any footwear on the moon? I do feel that a pair of furry carpet slippers wouldn't quite cut the mustard!
This illuminates why I think that SpaceX will ultimately decide to use landing legs and land on a landing pad anyway. Landing legs can be designed at an optimized lightweight so that you would lose a relatively small amount in payload. Then it will be recognized the relatively small amount you save in payload loss is not worth the risk of damaging a launch tower costing hundreds of millions of dollars. Another interesting fact is it’s mentioned the engine pressure was less than expected. This could be due to fuel leak. The Raptor leaking fuel and catching on fire has been a recurring problem. Then that giant plume shooting up the side of the booster might have been due to a fuel leak.
Yea, bizarre right!? I suspect that really wasn't supposed to be posted live. Kind of surprised it is still up there to be honest, although there is no hiding it now. 🤣
@@GoriksXit doesn’t matter if it is top secret or not, when you sign a contract with a company you also sign that you cannot discuss or reveal internal information.
i have been watching Space X, for a long time, watched a lot, live as well, love it! 1 question, what happens, to the 2nd stage, i always click "like", after landing, and that's it, no clue about #2
Can someone confirm whether I have my understanding of the "one second from disaster" correct? Basically, in order for the rocket to know whether it's in a healthy state to make the landing attempt, it needs to compare the telemetry with some pre-calculated values. They calculated that during re-light, they would reach a certain pressure in some part of the system would reach correct pressure by x seconds and had an abort trigger if pressure was not reached by x+a seconds. In reality, the time it took to reach that pressure was actually x+a-1 seconds. So either there was some physical problem with the pressure system or their abort triggers (the pre-calculated value of x and a) were incorrect. Based on the rest of the conversation where he talks about time pressure to refine the hundreds of abort triggers and timings that they have to configure before launch, it sounds like the latter.
20:12 Didn't one of the parachutes deploy late on the crew 8 landing? Clearly not a mission critical failure, but late deployment is still not really "like clockwork".
Another great episode, Marcus. Do you think SpaceX will incorporate a re-entry burn for Super Heavy? It looks like they landed with some fuel margin and I suspect they will change the RTLS profile to include a burn. This will have the engine bells during the super testing re-entry event. Thoughts?
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Why do BO even separate the capsule from the booster? Why have a second system for landing? They're just "puttng the tip in" to space - why detach the glans?
Just think...a little under ten years ago, Elon Musk proved that he could launch and Land an orbital class rocket booster. Now, it's become so common that hardly anyone notices them anymore. Like a jet plane taking off and landing. Sorta like what Elon said in the first place. And now, on to Starship....
13:54 If SpaceX could put a significant amound of payload into orbit with block 1, why not put some payload in the nose and demonstrate the downmass capability as well. Isn't Starship supposed to be able to return payload from orbit to land as well?
Teething issues with payload bay door and unsure of re-entry accuracy and re-entry burn capabilities it would be really unfortunate to both waste a giant payload AND and a giant rocket landing on a random point on Earth. I suspect they'll will probably put some Starlink V2 on soon though
Elon is smart because he doesnt try to hide his turds or brush mistakes under the carpet etc (which is standard corporate behaviour even in engineering), which is why corporates are mosty just rent seekers with no innovation: they hide and talk bs. I dont always agree with Elon but his best chance of success is to keep doing what he's doing, but its not easy. And not for the reason that people lack intelligence and ingenuity (in his business), its because they get tired and the machinery of the organisation and compartmentalisation pushes people into silos and initially pinky lies and covering up issues eventually leads to opaquesness and momentum without productivity and stonewalling between groups internally. If thats not managed a safety issue will occur. They cant afford that and he doesnt want it. Good luck to them maintaining their agility for as long as possibe.
Might be a good thing, I think theybwould see that as an opportunity. spacex wants to find the failure modes, so that they can engineer those problems out. It's near impossible to predict every potential problem.
NASA recently estimated a 70% chance of Starship making lunar landing by Feb 2028. BTW, SpaceX has recieved 2.9 billion from NASA for Starship, but it's been estimated they have spent between 5 and 10 billion on development so far.
U guys paid a fraction of a penny to fund nasa and less than that go into the moonlanding, maybe in 2030 we can see at least 1 of these landing on the moon anonymously
Only a fraction of a penny went into nasa, and even less than that went into moonlanding So maybe by 2030, at least we can see 1 of these land anonymously on the moon Btw, most fund for starship is coming from spacex itself not nasa, if u want to use that statement, go to the starliner
@@adamadamadamadam Thanks for the info. SpaceX does have quite a few things that are useful or even forward-thinking. Let's hope they can fulfil the moon promise. (As I'm a Finn, I will not give opinions on the money spent.)
Prototyping: 1) build a test article 2) fire it up and see what smokes 3) design a new part for whatever smoked 4) repeat until one of three cases is met Case A) nothing smokes. You have a successful design Case B) you can’t think of a way to keep the part from smoking. You are a failure. Case C) funding is pulled. Management or investors had a failure of imagination. No prototype works on the first try. Starship is in the early days of stage 4. Calling it a failed design is either premature or wishful thinking of a competitor or political opponent. I wonder which is the case here?
With the amount of re-entry heat going on, how come they don't make re-entry burn, to slow the StarShip down. Not to nothing but just a few thousand km/t. That would reduce the heat by, a lot. I'm sure they can calculate the re-entry speed to prevent the flap burn....
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*SPEACEX DOES NOT MESS AROUND....????* Dude the 4th Saturn V flight landed people on the Moon....!!! The 5th Starship launch didn't even reach orbit
Spacex does NOTHING BUT mess around
With the audio re "1 second from failure", despite the damage to the chines etc etc the booster still completed it's task and is a good indication of how robust things are. Bit like in WW2, aeroplanes would return to base missing parts and shot to pieces, it showed designers they got it right and to focus in other areas.
Lots of extra stuff not covered elsewhere, thank you, that info on the valves under the broken panel, the medical condition of the returning NASA astronaut, the video of the second stage from the fairing's view, Blue Origin news, Axiom moonsuits, multistart Raptor tests, the list of extra information went on and on, great work.
I still can't believe how much heat and force those Raptors throw out the back and that SpaceX built a structure that can (somewhat) withstand that torture. Add the recent catch and it's even more incredible, yet still it is very real.
I was speechless when that first catch happened, and it looks like another will happen soon! Can’t wait!
It is actually looking like it could be November.
@@MarcusHouseI’ll never get tired of watching these
@@MarcusHouse That's like next week!
It seems likely, given that SpaceX has seldom moved backward.
Looking forward to watching Starship reenter right over my home for Starship landings in Florida.
be careful because the direction of the detached heatshield of the starship is unpredictable
Another great fact packed roundup
Certainly exciting times ahead. .
Thank you MH +Team for all the hard work
Being something as clean as that on the first try was always too good to be true
Oh, I mean there was probably many things that could have gone wrong. This insight made me say WOW! too. Just 1 second longer and we may have had a very different result. Lucky, but incredible. Always something to improve.
@@MarcusHouse I'd rather be lucky than good. But it certainly helps if you manufacture a little bit of that luck in advance.
Sounds like Marcus saw Thunderf00t
Yup, his livestreams are so fun to watch him cope and seethe 😂
Sounds like Gwynne Shotwell in the background maybe? Very, very lucky with this one, the holes in the Swiss cheese almost lined up, single point failure equipment housed under a cover they were not 100% sure would survive phew! Looking forward to the next one, keep up the good work Marcus.
You know it's a slow week when Blue Origin gets a mention.
Another amazing video!!
0:22 Ive never seen this footage wow !
I like how the title is an actual direct quote from the SpaceX employee. Not clickbait, just the facts
To be fair one second is an age in spaceflight terms
Willing to bet that test fire was not much later than any of the others, but it LOOKED it as we are nearing the dark part of the year.
Stuff happens pretty quick during landing. One second could be an eternity, or a razor-thin margin.
Great stuff as always Marcus. I'm humbled to be living in in these times of space tech👍
Given the final "ad" specs of the Axiom suit that includes "Boots Engineered to Withstand Lunar Temps and Rough Terrain". Isn't that the basic requirement for any footwear on the moon? I do feel that a pair of furry carpet slippers wouldn't quite cut the mustard!
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This illuminates why I think that SpaceX will ultimately decide to use landing legs and land on a landing pad anyway. Landing legs can be designed at an optimized lightweight so that you would lose a relatively small amount in payload. Then it will be recognized the relatively small amount you save in payload loss is not worth the risk of damaging a launch tower costing hundreds of millions of dollars.
Another interesting fact is it’s mentioned the engine pressure was less than expected. This could be due to fuel leak. The Raptor leaking fuel and catching on fire has been a recurring problem. Then that giant plume shooting up the side of the booster might have been due to a fuel leak.
Great job Marcus !
Wow that leaked call is crazy
Yea, bizarre right!? I suspect that really wasn't supposed to be posted live. Kind of surprised it is still up there to be honest, although there is no hiding it now. 🤣
@@MarcusHouse very obviously posted on purpose. was not taken from a live stream, he posted the clip himself on twitter
In that coversation there is nothing top secret anyway.
@@GoriksXit doesn’t matter if it is top secret or not, when you sign a contract with a company you also sign that you cannot discuss or reveal internal information.
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i have been watching Space X, for a long time, watched a lot, live as well, love it! 1 question, what happens, to the 2nd stage, i always click "like", after landing, and that's it, no clue about #2
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@9:45, see how the blank / reinforcement do not align with the grid paddles. Perhaps they should.
Not only scientific, but also cinematographic!
Can someone confirm whether I have my understanding of the "one second from disaster" correct? Basically, in order for the rocket to know whether it's in a healthy state to make the landing attempt, it needs to compare the telemetry with some pre-calculated values. They calculated that during re-light, they would reach a certain pressure in some part of the system would reach correct pressure by x seconds and had an abort trigger if pressure was not reached by x+a seconds. In reality, the time it took to reach that pressure was actually x+a-1 seconds. So either there was some physical problem with the pressure system or their abort triggers (the pre-calculated value of x and a) were incorrect. Based on the rest of the conversation where he talks about time pressure to refine the hundreds of abort triggers and timings that they have to configure before launch, it sounds like the latter.
20:12 Didn't one of the parachutes deploy late on the crew 8 landing? Clearly not a mission critical failure, but late deployment is still not really "like clockwork".
I'm sure I missed it. But why was two left behind when the capsule can hold up to 7 astronauts?
I believe CO2 Fire Suppression needs to be added the Catching Tower to suppress residual fire from the rocket engines after shutoff.
Another great episode, Marcus. Do you think SpaceX will incorporate a re-entry burn for Super Heavy? It looks like they landed with some fuel margin and I suspect they will change the RTLS profile to include a burn. This will have the engine bells during the super testing re-entry event. Thoughts?
It seems like they should, but if they engineer a solution to chill the outer engines, they may be able to get away with it. I can't wait to find out.
13:32 What?!? Why would anyone expect a company throw away tons of propellant? What a preposterous view.
lol 1 second from clickbate 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks Marcus 😘 we appreciate your content 📺
Can you tell Fraser when he’s taking about his Asian livestream he should mention NewZealand too (lol he says Australia but we don’t want to discude our neighbouring islands 🤣 like Tasmania 😈🙀🇦🇺) sorry 😢🤣😘😎😁
Err no it's not.
Why do BO even separate the capsule from the booster? Why have a second system for landing? They're just "puttng the tip in" to space - why detach the glans?
Chopstick Arms doing the 'Victory V'. Anyone made such a graphic? Anyone think such a graphic might be kind of cool?
Well, yeah, of course we were lucky to see the catch work on the very first try 😅
Regardless of all the created melodrama the thing worked perfect or should I say near perfect
Just think...a little under ten years ago, Elon Musk proved that he could launch and Land an orbital class
rocket booster. Now, it's become so common that hardly anyone notices them anymore. Like a jet plane
taking off and landing. Sorta like what Elon said in the first place.
And now, on to Starship....
Wow!
Gwynne Shotwell is doing a great job.
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hey marcus, do you think elon will do away with the launch table and replace it with the new design? thank you for what you do :-)
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13:54 If SpaceX could put a significant amound of payload into orbit with block 1, why not put some payload in the nose and demonstrate the downmass capability as well. Isn't Starship supposed to be able to return payload from orbit to land as well?
Teething issues with payload bay door and unsure of re-entry accuracy and re-entry burn capabilities
it would be really unfortunate to both waste a giant payload AND and a giant rocket landing on a random point on Earth. I suspect they'll will probably put some Starlink V2 on soon though
I love boosters 12 and 13
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Bait used to be believable ...
I knew Elon had to be gaming 24-7 even during meetings he has leveled up way too fast on Diablo
Dude I hit max level every season in about 10 hours
Elon is smart because he doesnt try to hide his turds or brush mistakes under the carpet etc (which is standard corporate behaviour even in engineering), which is why corporates are mosty just rent seekers with no innovation: they hide and talk bs.
I dont always agree with Elon but his best chance of success is to keep doing what he's doing, but its not easy. And not for the reason that people lack intelligence and ingenuity (in his business), its because they get tired and the machinery of the organisation and compartmentalisation pushes people into silos and initially pinky lies and covering up issues eventually leads to opaquesness and momentum without productivity and stonewalling between groups internally. If thats not managed a safety issue will occur.
They cant afford that and he doesnt want it. Good luck to them maintaining their agility for as long as possibe.
Anyone know if a human has ever propulsively landed while returning from space? High altitude aircraft or experimental craft maybe?
Harrier Jump Jet . VTOL
cant help but worry what if the second catch fails?
Might be a good thing, I think theybwould see that as an opportunity. spacex wants to find the failure modes, so that they can engineer those problems out. It's near impossible to predict every potential problem.
I really hope that they attempt to catch the ship. Now _that_ will be cool. But I highly doubt that it would happen
Ship is not designed to be caught. It has landing legs.
@@edwardsr70 The ship is designed to be caught. Landing legs hasn’t been on a ship for almost three years
dont use such titles otherwise medias will scoop it up and who knows what theyll show on tv 😂
one second from disaster....isn't that always true with rockets?
Well, I guess that is possibly true. This phone chat was pretty insightful.
When will they deliver a payload to low earth orbit
The miles and feet metrics from Blue Origin ticked me off
How about digging a deep hole to drop the booster into if aborted so the explosion is contained sideways.
Trying to get a precision landing in a hole from a failing rocket is probably not the play
lol
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More CO2 to send more trash in space.
just what we need.
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That doesn't sound like you, are you using AI?
Getting real tired of content creators misleading people with false or misleading titles.......click bait.
Wasn't click bait.
That is what one of the SpaceX engineers said in the audio.
Did you watch the video before you commented?
Are actually watching the video or just commenting nonsense
Are actually watching the video or just commenting nonsense
First!!🎉
nope you're second
first
First-ish?
lastish
But as Starship is paid by taxpayer money and intended to function as a moonlanding/departure vehicle, when is it ready to do these things?
NASA recently estimated a 70% chance of Starship making lunar landing by Feb 2028. BTW, SpaceX has recieved 2.9 billion from NASA for Starship, but it's been estimated they have spent between 5 and 10 billion on development so far.
U guys paid a fraction of a penny to fund nasa and less than that go into the moonlanding, maybe in 2030 we can see at least 1 of these landing on the moon anonymously
Only a fraction of a penny went into nasa, and even less than that went into moonlanding
So maybe by 2030, at least we can see 1 of these land anonymously on the moon
Btw, most fund for starship is coming from spacex itself not nasa, if u want to use that statement, go to the starliner
@@adamadamadamadam Thanks for the info. SpaceX does have quite a few things that are useful or even forward-thinking. Let's hope they can fulfil the moon promise. (As I'm a Finn, I will not give opinions on the money spent.)
When does everyone start to acknowledge that is a failed design?
You mean the one they just caught out of the freaking air. You might need to wait a while on that bud.
@@MarcusHouse Stand back and look critically at the whole system and the stated goals. Not going to happen.
Imperfect =/= failed.
@@M31Galaxy1I'ma save this comment and come back a fue years later. This is hilarious.
Prototyping:
1) build a test article
2) fire it up and see what smokes
3) design a new part for whatever smoked
4) repeat until one of three cases is met
Case A) nothing smokes. You have a successful design
Case B) you can’t think of a way to keep the part from smoking. You are a failure.
Case C) funding is pulled. Management or investors had a failure of imagination.
No prototype works on the first try. Starship is in the early days of stage 4.
Calling it a failed design is either premature or wishful thinking of a competitor or political opponent. I wonder which is the case here?
10th comment😊
With the amount of re-entry heat going on, how come they don't make re-entry burn, to slow the StarShip down. Not to nothing but just a few thousand km/t. That would reduce the heat by, a lot. I'm sure they can calculate the re-entry speed to prevent the flap burn....
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sure it was sweetheart. lets see your rocket