Couple of mistakes to correct: Ringo of course wasn't in the Quarrymen, he joined The Beatles long after. And at 6:55 - the White Album should be Let It Be instead. Thanks to all who pointed these out, gold stars for you!
One thing that’s rarely mentioned, is in the early days, John keeping the morale up in the band when things weren’t always so good. The rest of the band owes a little bit to John Lennon for being the driving force that kept them with a goal in sight.
Bands do fight. Our band never made it but we toured and recorded and despite we all known each other since the early years we had fights beating each other. But it soon ended and we took a beer and laughed about it afterwards.
George had a bit of a chip on his shoulder when it came to his place in the band. Unless someone brought it up he never discussed his time as a Beatle and was often openly annoyed when a reporter or interviewer asked him questions about his band mates. I read an interview with Klaus Voorman, one of George's long-time friends and a guy who knew the band in Hamburg and he said a lot of the tension stemmed back to how John treated George in those days. John would be openly critical of him and make jokes at his expense. George, being the youngest and most reserved would take it but that framed the relationship early-on. Lennon could be a major sh*t. But George also took things a bit too personal and the fact remains, he really wasn't in John and Paul's league for a long time when it came to writing songs. George was also not the beacon of light and goodness he liked to make himself out to be. He once wanted to have a guys legs broken because he wouldn't return a guitar that had been stolen from his LA apartment. The guy bought it legally from a pawn shop and had no involvement in the theft. Gorge was also a serial adulterer who wrecked Ringo's marriage by sleeping with his wife. But we are all human I suppose and band politics sucks from the garage level to the biggest stage.
Ringo wrecked his own marriage, he had many affairs. He said he wasn't a great husband, and if his wife had to have an affair he was glad it was with George. Ringo also drank a lot at that time and could get very abusive with her.
@@yves2694 And Maureen and George BOTH said this was never a physical affair, nor did Pattie ever catch them in the act. She just presumed that's what they were doing. When you add cocaine, booze, and whatever was floating aroung, bad decisions get made. I assume Harrison wanted NOTHING to do with being a Beatle anymore once they were legally dissolved. He distances himself from EVERYBODY. Including Ringo.
He's got John treating him like crap, he's got Paul disrespecting him, they have George Martin egging them on to do it. First of all, anyone that can make Ringo Starr quit a band is a piece of work. And that has to be McCartney. Cuz he does the same things to Harrison, and Harrison quits. I would too. he has the same problem in Wings, but never seems to play a guitar solo when his multiple drummers and guitarists have left cuz they're not getting paid, they get no publishing royalties, and it seems only his wife gets to co-write songs with him. I don't know what Denny Laine did wrong, but damn. Every day I gotta go to work (doing something I truly enjoy doing and have wanted to do ever since I was a kid), and play these songs for this person who tells me what to play, what not to play, don't play at all, and never stops for a minute to take on a suggestion from anyone else about these songs, aside from the producer, who is clearly in favour of his material from the get go. And a lot of it none of the rest of the band like either. I gotta put up with my rhythm guitarist's mistress. Who does all his talking for him. I can't even get a song played all the way through for two consecutive days. But this woman is allowed to scream in a mike to her heart's content. My songs I own outright. The royalties from them I receive the majority. Back when I was barely considered a Beatle "legally", the songs I wrote earned more money for my two friends than it does for me. And I don't own anything. When they originally cut me out from any publishing, and I lost one of the songs I wrote for the band, I just stopped giving them anything. I formed my own company where no one can do that to me again, but I give them no original compositions. Until they finally decide me and Ringo are Beatles in 1965. But anyone can buy us out because our shares are so small. We own no copyright. We're contracted like employees. I mean seriously. Chip on his shoulder? You should be more concerned why none of them took care of Mal Evans at all. And the person that buried him because his family couldn't afford to do it was Harrison. He also gave him credit on a song, which gave him a long overdue raise for probably saving those 4 people's lives numerous times. He's also the one that let Billy Preston out of his Apple contract so he didn't get swallowed up in litigation. If only McCartney had let Badfinger out of theirs, two of them might not be dead before 1980.
The fight was reported at the time and George Martin only mentioned it years better, but others who were there during the 'White Album" and "Get Back/Let It Be" confirmed it and other John/George dustups like when John & Y.O. first got together and George, who intensely disliked her from the first, told him the he'd spoken to Dylan and other friends in New York who said she was a phony and a drag. John reacted badly and the reason George quit for a bit was because at a meeting Lennon let her do all his talking for him so George walked out.McCartney & Lennon and Martin did overlook him for some time but George didn't really flower as a writer till around '68 and he wasn't forceful about getting his songs done. Faults on all sides, except for Ringo.
@@robertcatesby8420 exactly right. Remember George wrote some pretty awful stuff that still made it onto Beatles albums (Within You Without You, Love You To, The Inner Light, Long Long Long)
I think George's Beatles songs were every bit as good as the others. I've been listening to them from the start and have played in several tribute bands so I do think I know a bit about them. George was an essential part of that band.
Gregory Martin was George Martins son and he is on Twitter saying the official version of the Beatles is not accurate. "They were sold a "package" when they signed on to EMI and a "package" they couldnt stand!" and Gregory means they were much more controlled and forced to be something they never, were but it was nothing like the total control of todays artists. EMI had wanted them to keep their suits and continue with what they knew sold records and the Beatles wanted to become independent and decide for themself. Most of us Beatles fan knew that but its nice to hear Gregory Martin revealing stuff his dad told him in "secret" back in the day.
@@robertcatesby8420 NO George Martins OLDEST son and that is Gregory Martin. You got to hear it cause you wouldnt believe some of the stuff he is revealing.
@@MusicMongoose I think he's trying to point out that the video suggests in passing that the 'fight' and George temporarily leaving the band, led to some of their greatest music, by showing the White Album along side Abbey Road, when the White Album had been recorded and released before the Get Back sessions and the subsequent fallout.
George should have quit whining, and recorded All Things Must Pass as a solo album while still with the Beatles. I love the Beatles, as a group and individually, but I do get tired of George's negativity. There really could have been some cool stuff, like an actual concert to wrap up the Get Back sessions, if George had just been amenable.
Absolutely!! I’ve always thought that they should have just taken a couple of years off after the White Album to do their own things, then return to the band refreshed and ready to go once again. Remember that they had been together almost nonstop since they were teenagers. They needed some alone time without destroying the band.
Friends and band mates can fight one minute and five minutes later be old friends again Anyone that's been in a band with childhood friends will attest to that
Known about this for a long time! Was first documented in the book "Get Back: The unauthorized chronicle of The Beatles - Let It Be - disaster." Every one thinks George left during the filming because of a musical dispute with Paul.... No.... George confronted John about why he always had to be with Yoko, and told him to his face that his friends in New York (Dylan & The Band) said she had bad vibes and was bringing them into the Beatles sessions. This infuriated John so much he physically attacked George (as he did with Cavern Club DJ Bob Wooler back in 63') and the fight had to be broken up by Mal Evans & other Apple staff. This is the truth. That is why George quit. Not because of McCartney telling him what to play. Paul had been doing that since they first met. George quit because Lennon wanted to beat the shit out of him. Wouldn't you?
And when asked about the "fight" with Paul in Let It Be, George regretted that the cameras captured it. He dismissed the argument itself as nothing and said that it was the cameras that made it something.
George Harrison was deeply envious of Lennon and McCartney. He had to work a lot to start writing good songs and only managed to do it in the end. He wanted to be an equal among Gods.
Gods write "All Together Now"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"???? Jesus. Pete Townshend goes from Can't Explain to Tommy in 4 years. Ray Davies goes from You Really Got Me to Arthur in 5. McCartney??? Yesterday to All Together Now in just 2 years! By 1971 he's writing Bip Bop. Versatility??? If you like a rocker, a ballad, a vaudeville number, and a children's song every album sure! And whatever's trendy at the moment. He'll write bubblegum for you if you want. Come and Get It is pretty bubblegum, and Pete Ham wrote better songs than that! Eat At Home sounds like something Abba would enter into Eurovision 71, and Another Day I don't see not being on an Archies cartoon with the right production. Lennon, before he started writing every song about his wife, you could call a God I suppose. I just know he kicks more ass than McCartney, especially in their early years. Better lyric writer, he's always honest no matter what he's talking about, at least you know he's a human being. McCartney wants to perpetually take you down Penny Lane, past the Cafe on the Left Bank, where nothing really happens but he wants you to know he's a good guy. Reselling you Sgt. Pepper over and over again, and literally rewriting the same song over and over again. You speed up Let 'Em In, you got Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five. Speed it up a little more you got Magneto & Titanium Man, which sounds alot like how Smile Away goes. Octave Octave Octave, lets do it again on Old Siam Sir. Gods? Jimi Hendrix was a God. Guitar was never the same after he showed everyone what could be done with it. If they were Gods, both their solo careers would have the same kind of success Fleetwood Mac had with Rumours. Every album. The only album McCartney ever had that went multi-platinum was Band on the Run. Michael Jackson has released singles that sold more than that album.
I also heard George Martin mention that there was a brief fist fight between both. He does not seem like the kind of guy that needs to make things up and he was a major figure. John even said in his Lennon remembers that he wanted to hit George during a recording session after he insulted Yoko. It's surprising the 4 of them didn't have more fist fights being that huge and stuck in that Beatle bubble.
George did say that John could be a bit of a bastard, and there's plenty of evidence to support this. None of The Beatles were saints, by their own admissions, but John in particular did have a very nasty side. He was a thug before The Beatles made it big and openly admitted that if he hadn't been a rock star, he'd have probably been in prison. By the time that he'd met Yoko, he was trying to turn that around and be a better person, but he always had that violent side, right up to the end of his life. If George Martin said that this fight happened, then I'd have no reason to not believe that it happened. John had a very negative attitude in general. When you hear his later interviews, it's mostly him complaining about how the others sabotaged his songs or how they were so horrible to Yoko or how unimpressed he was with their solo albums. He was a contradiction, a man of peace who held onto so much hatred and who could be extremely violent.
This is becoming a bit of a meme always saying jl is violent without any e idence of it , or saying that having a cynical style is " violence", or proves " violence" etc..its actually defamation and getting sick.of it...tends to.always be Americans saying it- is it to justify the shooting on American soil
I can't imagine John Lennon having a fist fight with Harrison at that point. John was a heroin addict and was so painfully thin I don't think he could have punched a hole in a wet paper bag.
There's a medical reason that Yoko was in the studio that I almost never see anyone talk about. She had three miscarriages before she gave birth to Sean. Her blood pressure got too high when she was pregnant, so she had to be bedridden. John wanted her nearby in case anything happened.
Well, the 80 or so Nagra tapes which were supposedly stolen and bootlegged had one reel missing. Yes, it was the reel when the fight supposedly happened. Peter Jackson would know if any Nagra tapes were missing but I don't think he mentioned it. As for whether it happened, Lennon said in an interview that George confronted him about Yoko and had said Dylan and the New York scene were warning about who she was. He then said that he didn't know why he didn't hit him right there and then, and that he should have but that he loved him. In the Peter Jackson film you see Lennon playfully holding up his fists to George and bobbing up and down and George smiling. So perhaps that was John saying sorry?
I can't see George having a punch up with anybody, let alone John, who was an experienced back street brawler. George's only experience with fighting as far as I know was getting punched in the eye at the Cavern Club by a patron who was pissed off that Pete had gotten sacked.
They were so influential and so great that we tend to 'worship ' them, idolize them like 'gods'...And we feel that 'gods' can do no wrong, and above all the weakness of being mortals..But in the end, they're just as human with their own internal struggles, temptations, jealousy, weaknesses, anger and so on...Still, you can feel ( deep down inside ) the love they have for each other when it's all said and done. After all, George did say ' we'll meet again somewhere down the line '!!
As someone who has followed the Beatles for over 50 years and played on 2 Beatles "sound alike bands"; I find it difficult to believe that John and George had a physical confrontation in 1969... because.... after the trip to India with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, both George and John became a bit more spiritual and less egotistical. Even during the confrontation in Let it be, when Paul is trying to show off George; George just says, look I'll play the way you want it, or I won't play at all. He could have called Paul 100 names, but he didn't. He had grown spiritually. And by the way so had John. He was 3 years away from writing Imagine. Whatever happened between George and John, Shakespeare woud have called it - Much ado about nothing.
George also had significant personal issues he wanted to deal with and sitting around with the band was a waste of time for him. Later George had noted that he would be okay with being in a band with John again, but not Paul.
@@hungfao Yes, thrall. He later also complained about John and played with Paul. All of the other Beatles came to realise that Paul was right about Klein.
@@str.77 Yes, he complained about John but I never did see anything that said he wouldn't play in a band with him again. It is my understanding that he played with Paul on the Anthology because he needed the money, otherwise it may not have happened.
Whatever George did ya cant compare LENNON-MCCartney and Harrison during the Beatles times. Lennon-McCartney is that made beatles that it was and thats it
BULLSHIT. You are brainwashed. Harrison was always held back intentionally by McCartney because of McCartney's ego and extreme selfishness. McCartney was addicted to the attention and money that comes from song writing.
By 1968, it seems John and Paul’s songwriting had become a tad lazy and a little less compelling, whereas George was coming into his own strength. Case in point, arguably the best pair of songs on Abbey Road were Something and Here Comes the Sun, both written by George.
When we die we find out that everything that ever happened on Earth is recorded and we can watch anything that we please. I'll start right in with the Lennon and Harrison fight. Then take a look at Charlie Watts hauling off walloping Mick Jagger. And next I'll check out Chuck Berry punching Keith Richards.
George's contribution to the group was quite vital. It wasn't really musical, but rather his vibe. He was infinitely hip and probably more in tune to the zeitgeist than any of them. Even before he singlehandedly introduced Indian culture to the West. Minimizing his importance to The Beatles is shortsighted.
How satisfying it must have been for Paul to have 9 number one solo hit songs to George's 3. How satisfying it must have been to have My Love at number 1 for a month while Give Me Love lasted only one week and was gone.
@@braemtes23And yet George, as most critics agree, had the best post-Beatles album with “All Things Must Pass”, and still has the most streamed Beatle’s song by far with “Here Comes the Sun”. There is no denying McCartney’s talent, I think he was the most musically gifted Beatle. George was not as prolific for sure, but he created some beautiful music of his own.
@@michaelc2254 I agree, George created some beautiful music of his own, but by what measure do you determine that ATMP was the best Beatles solo album? The critics can not be trusted because they were punishing Paul in the early 70s because they believed he broke up the Beatles. I was there and remember it well. If you measure it by sales, Band on the Run outsold ATMP. Upon release, ATMP only sold 500,000 copies. After George died it increased to 3,500,000 copies sold. (The RIAA count it as 7x platinum because it is a double album, but that does not reflect the sales.) Whereas, BOTR has sold 3,850,000 copies and is rated 3x platinum. Spotify is only one medium and is mostly used by millennials and gen Xers. I have never been on Spotify. I buy vinyl and CDs and never download music. I will add to that the number of 20 somethings I've watched on TH-cam that have stated the only Beatles song they have ever heard was HCTS. They know it from childhood when they heard it on The Bee Movie, The Parent Trap, etc. So you are using one medium used predominantly by a group of people whose only knowledge of Beatles music is HCTS. I am not knocking HCTS. The song is great. I am just saying this comparison is using a weighted scale.
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George Harrison did well during his time with the Beatles and during his solo career. George, however, was always moaning about everthing and throwing tantrums. In many of the interviews, George was really wicked and cold. I found him to be a nasty bit of work at times.
I remember an interview with Lennon where he was questioned about Harrison. He indignantly replied that Harrison was only a guitarist. That explains everything.
I've always disliked the term "altered states of consciousness". It's almost like you're taking away or hemming up something. Chopping something off. You're actually adding on more than one could ever imagine.
John was infamous for getting in fights everywere for about 3 years after his mother died, and I can name two paparazzi photographers just off the top of my head that George Harrison bashed in 1968. They made wonderful music but they were still just dudes in their twenties who liked to use substances. The reality isn't hard to focus unless you're dead set on being willfully blind.
One would think George's word tour would have helped him understand where he was on the Beatles Hierarchy (it was a dud)... sadly, he became a whiny little man. John & Paul were The Beatles... period.
I think george had a tendency to embellish his stories george martin said that E.M.I. wanted lennon mccartney songs they where almost guaranteed 80% return on and album funny thing is that it seemed george would go after paul from what I've seen john wanted to be boss and he still got a great deal of respect especially when he was using heroin with yoko nothing else but her interested john if any of the other boys brought this untalented scarecrow with no talent and take her instruction over Paul's john never would of put up with it I don't think john realized how devastating the early years after the up he may not have been so quick to switchch from paul to yoyo he tried to laugh it off in the late 70s saying paul was a musical genius to bad it was to late paul felt like his brother righting partner and someone to make his music playable on a record joʻhn always thought he could do anything he wanted but paul was much more level headed and george was the cranky kid brother that didn't want to right at first then he thought he was just going to jump right ìn.
Why does anybody expect band members to be all buddy buddy all the time? I would like the nay sayers to produce any group..male, female, mixed…who did not have arguments, fights, tantrums! When there are groups of people In bands…working, living, travelling together, almost in each other’s pockets every day…tension, tedium, frustrations rear their ugly heads! Added to that is when a superfluous, intrusive, non contributing element is introduced, the ugliness grows exponentially!
George was by far the most talented beatle he was the best musician the most intelligent beatle he contributed parts and structures to nearly every beatle song
Seriously? George had talent no doubt but there is no way he was as talented as Paul in the amount if hits paul wrote, the versatile number if instruments paul played proficiently, singing etc. Paul had to do the lead guitar on taxman because george couldn't play it. Paul did it perfectly on the first take.
George Harrison was so overrated as a guitarist, I mean, he did gradually developed brilliant composing skills and arrangement skills with the beatles, but the beatles never had a very good guitar solo by Harrison, the best one is by Clapton, even more of the good guitar riffs from the beatles were written by John Lennon, the best one also by Clapton. Even Paul Mccartney has more aggressive guitar solos because Harrison had none, while Mccartney had the taxman guitar solo and birthday guitar solo, much more exciting than George Harrison ones...
Couldn't disagree more. Solos aren't everything but George contributed so much tasteful guitar to the band's music. Listen again to the solo on Old Brown Shoe and come back to me.
The Beatles weren't a guitar solo type of band. Neither were they a drum solo type of band for that matter. Might be a clue there to their enduring popularity.
there are so many fantastic harrison solos. just a ridiculous statement you made. paul played a couple of really good ones and john had a few but I think you should rethink that staement. perhaps you wrote with out thinking all the way through. It happens
Couple of mistakes to correct: Ringo of course wasn't in the Quarrymen, he joined The Beatles long after. And at 6:55 - the White Album should be Let It Be instead. Thanks to all who pointed these out, gold stars for you!
Brothers fight sometimes,just the way it is.
One thing that’s rarely mentioned, is in the early days, John keeping the morale up in the band when things weren’t always so good. The rest of the band owes a little bit to John Lennon for being the driving force that kept them with a goal in sight.
More than a little bit.
but then faul joined in 1966 and drove them even more.
Ringo wasn’t in the quarrymen ❤
My feeling is the fist fight never happened and it's even discussed in the get back documentary and you can tell that it never happened.
Bands do fight. Our band never made it but we toured and recorded and despite we all known each other since the early years we had fights beating each other. But it soon ended and we took a beer and laughed about it afterwards.
George had a bit of a chip on his shoulder when it came to his place in the band. Unless someone brought it up he never discussed his time as a Beatle and was often openly annoyed when a reporter or interviewer asked him questions about his band mates. I read an interview with Klaus Voorman, one of George's long-time friends and a guy who knew the band in Hamburg and he said a lot of the tension stemmed back to how John treated George in those days. John would be openly critical of him and make jokes at his expense. George, being the youngest and most reserved would take it but that framed the relationship early-on. Lennon could be a major sh*t. But George also took things a bit too personal and the fact remains, he really wasn't in John and Paul's league for a long time when it came to writing songs.
George was also not the beacon of light and goodness he liked to make himself out to be. He once wanted to have a guys legs broken because he wouldn't return a guitar that had been stolen from his LA apartment. The guy bought it legally from a pawn shop and had no involvement in the theft. Gorge was also a serial adulterer who wrecked Ringo's marriage by sleeping with his wife. But we are all human I suppose and band politics sucks from the garage level to the biggest stage.
Ringo wrecked his own marriage, he had many affairs. He said he wasn't a great husband, and if his wife had to have an affair he was glad it was with George. Ringo also drank a lot at that time and could get very abusive with her.
@@yves2694 And Maureen and George BOTH said this was never a physical affair, nor did Pattie ever catch them in the act. She just presumed that's what they were doing. When you add cocaine, booze, and whatever was floating aroung, bad decisions get made.
I assume Harrison wanted NOTHING to do with being a Beatle anymore once they were legally dissolved. He distances himself from EVERYBODY. Including Ringo.
He's got John treating him like crap, he's got Paul disrespecting him, they have George Martin egging them on to do it. First of all, anyone that can make Ringo Starr quit a band is a piece of work. And that has to be McCartney. Cuz he does the same things to Harrison, and Harrison quits. I would too. he has the same problem in Wings, but never seems to play a guitar solo when his multiple drummers and guitarists have left cuz they're not getting paid, they get no publishing royalties, and it seems only his wife gets to co-write songs with him. I don't know what Denny Laine did wrong, but damn.
Every day I gotta go to work (doing something I truly enjoy doing and have wanted to do ever since I was a kid), and play these songs for this person who tells me what to play, what not to play, don't play at all, and never stops for a minute to take on a suggestion from anyone else about these songs, aside from the producer, who is clearly in favour of his material from the get go. And a lot of it none of the rest of the band like either.
I gotta put up with my rhythm guitarist's mistress. Who does all his talking for him. I can't even get a song played all the way through for two consecutive days. But this woman is allowed to scream in a mike to her heart's content.
My songs I own outright. The royalties from them I receive the majority. Back when I was barely considered a Beatle "legally", the songs I wrote earned more money for my two friends than it does for me. And I don't own anything. When they originally cut me out from any publishing, and I lost one of the songs I wrote for the band, I just stopped giving them anything. I formed my own company where no one can do that to me again, but I give them no original compositions.
Until they finally decide me and Ringo are Beatles in 1965. But anyone can buy us out because our shares are so small. We own no copyright. We're contracted like employees.
I mean seriously. Chip on his shoulder?
You should be more concerned why none of them took care of Mal Evans at all. And the person that buried him because his family couldn't afford to do it was Harrison. He also gave him credit on a song, which gave him a long overdue raise for probably saving those 4 people's lives numerous times. He's also the one that let Billy Preston out of his Apple contract so he didn't get swallowed up in litigation. If only McCartney had let Badfinger out of theirs, two of them might not be dead before 1980.
@@DrTomoculus Damn! Well said! :)
@@angelomisterioso Thanks! I'm used to getting a lot of hostility for saying it this way!
Ringo wasn’t in the Quarrymen.
"We'll meet again, somewhere down the line."
How tragically prophetic that became.
The fight was reported at the time and George Martin only mentioned it years better, but others who were there during the 'White Album" and "Get Back/Let It Be" confirmed it and other John/George dustups like when John & Y.O. first got together and George, who intensely disliked her from the first, told him the he'd spoken to Dylan and other friends in New York who said she was a phony and a drag. John reacted badly and the reason George quit for a bit was because at a meeting Lennon let her do all his talking for him so George walked out.McCartney & Lennon and Martin did overlook him for some time but George didn't really flower as a writer till around '68 and he wasn't forceful about getting his songs done. Faults on all sides, except for Ringo.
@@robertcatesby8420 exactly right. Remember George wrote some pretty awful stuff that still made it onto Beatles albums (Within You Without You, Love You To, The Inner Light, Long Long Long)
They're great songs apart from 'the inner light'
I personally think within you without you was the best song on sgt pepper @@SATXbassplayer
I think George's Beatles songs were every bit as good as the others. I've been listening to them from the start and have played in several tribute bands so I do think I know a bit about them. George was an essential part of that band.
The White Album was out in 68 so how is mentioned that they created it with Abbey Road after Harrison left the band during the Let it Be filming
I’m not sure what you’re asking here?
Gregory Martin was George Martins son and he is on Twitter saying the official version of the Beatles is not accurate. "They were sold a "package" when they signed on to EMI and a "package" they couldnt stand!" and Gregory means they were much more controlled and forced to be something they never, were but it was nothing like the total control of todays artists. EMI had wanted them to keep their suits and continue with what they knew sold records and the Beatles wanted to become independent and decide for themself. Most of us Beatles fan knew that but its nice to hear Gregory Martin revealing stuff his dad told him in "secret" back in the day.
@@strikerorwell9232 Giles Martin.
@@robertcatesby8420 NO George Martins OLDEST son and that is Gregory Martin. You got to hear it cause you wouldnt believe some of the stuff he is revealing.
@@MusicMongoose I think he's trying to point out that the video suggests in passing that the 'fight' and George temporarily leaving the band, led to some of their greatest music, by showing the White Album along side Abbey Road, when the White Album had been recorded and released before the Get Back sessions and the subsequent fallout.
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Pretty possibly but extraordinarily dim.
George should have quit whining, and recorded All Things Must Pass as a solo album while still with the Beatles. I love the Beatles, as a group and individually, but I do get tired of George's negativity. There really could have been some cool stuff, like an actual concert to wrap up the Get Back sessions, if George had just been amenable.
Absolutely!! I’ve always thought that they should have just taken a couple of years off after the White Album to do their own things, then return to the band refreshed and ready to go once again. Remember that they had been together almost nonstop since they were teenagers. They needed some alone time without destroying the band.
Or maybe Paul McCartney should not be a control freak lol
@@tapetwo7115 He could have, but then no abbey road or let it be, and maybe white album.
@@tapetwo7115 wrong
George was solid.
6:55-- I'm sure I'm not the 1st to write this, but they had already released the White Album by this point
Friends and band mates can fight one minute and five minutes later be old friends again
Anyone that's been in a band with childhood friends will attest to that
Known about this for a long time! Was first documented in the book "Get Back: The unauthorized chronicle of The Beatles - Let It Be - disaster." Every one thinks George left during the filming because of a musical dispute with Paul.... No.... George confronted John about why he always had to be with Yoko, and told him to his face that his friends in New York (Dylan & The Band) said she had bad vibes and was bringing them into the Beatles sessions. This infuriated John so much he physically attacked George (as he did with Cavern Club DJ Bob Wooler back in 63') and the fight had to be broken up by Mal Evans & other Apple staff. This is the truth. That is why George quit. Not because of McCartney telling him what to play. Paul had been doing that since they first met. George quit because Lennon wanted to beat the shit out of him. Wouldn't you?
Thanks for the extra info, much appreciated!
And when asked about the "fight" with Paul in Let It Be, George regretted that the cameras captured it. He dismissed the argument itself as nothing and said that it was the cameras that made it something.
George Harrison was deeply envious of Lennon and McCartney. He had to work a lot to start writing good songs and only managed to do it in the end. He wanted to be an equal among Gods.
I think 'Here Comes The Sun' is a beautiful song. The first song i ever learnt to play on guitar as a kid.
Gods write "All Together Now"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"???? Jesus. Pete Townshend goes from Can't Explain to Tommy in 4 years. Ray Davies goes from You Really Got Me to Arthur in 5.
McCartney??? Yesterday to All Together Now in just 2 years! By 1971 he's writing Bip Bop.
Versatility??? If you like a rocker, a ballad, a vaudeville number, and a children's song every album sure! And whatever's trendy at the moment. He'll write bubblegum for you if you want. Come and Get It is pretty bubblegum, and Pete Ham wrote better songs than that! Eat At Home sounds like something Abba would enter into Eurovision 71, and Another Day I don't see not being on an Archies cartoon with the right production.
Lennon, before he started writing every song about his wife, you could call a God I suppose. I just know he kicks more ass than McCartney, especially in their early years. Better lyric writer, he's always honest no matter what he's talking about, at least you know he's a human being.
McCartney wants to perpetually take you down Penny Lane, past the Cafe on the Left Bank, where nothing really happens but he wants you to know he's a good guy. Reselling you Sgt. Pepper over and over again, and literally rewriting the same song over and over again. You speed up Let 'Em In, you got Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five. Speed it up a little more you got Magneto & Titanium Man, which sounds alot like how Smile Away goes. Octave Octave Octave, lets do it again on Old Siam Sir.
Gods? Jimi Hendrix was a God. Guitar was never the same after he showed everyone what could be done with it. If they were Gods, both their solo careers would have the same kind of success Fleetwood Mac had with Rumours. Every album. The only album McCartney ever had that went multi-platinum was Band on the Run. Michael Jackson has released singles that sold more than that album.
@@DrTomoculus Your comment was actually entertaining to read and there were some very valid and solid points there.
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@@DrTomoculus RAM is a great album, and I love The Who, but DOGS and Tommy's Holiday Camp not great tunes
I also heard George Martin mention that there was a brief fist fight between both. He does not seem like the kind of guy that needs to make things up and he was a major figure. John even said in his Lennon remembers that he wanted to hit George during a recording session after he insulted Yoko. It's surprising the 4 of them didn't have more fist fights being that huge and stuck in that Beatle bubble.
Totally agree!
i got clocked more than once by one of my brothers. and clocked back. lol. it doesn't mean anything.
George did say that John could be a bit of a bastard, and there's plenty of evidence to support this. None of The Beatles were saints, by their own admissions, but John in particular did have a very nasty side. He was a thug before The Beatles made it big and openly admitted that if he hadn't been a rock star, he'd have probably been in prison. By the time that he'd met Yoko, he was trying to turn that around and be a better person, but he always had that violent side, right up to the end of his life. If George Martin said that this fight happened, then I'd have no reason to not believe that it happened. John had a very negative attitude in general. When you hear his later interviews, it's mostly him complaining about how the others sabotaged his songs or how they were so horrible to Yoko or how unimpressed he was with their solo albums. He was a contradiction, a man of peace who held onto so much hatred and who could be extremely violent.
Great comment 👍🏻 George came from a big family, with brothers. He knew how to handle himself. Lennon had a short fuse.
This is becoming a bit of a meme always saying jl is violent without any e idence of it , or saying that having a cynical style is " violence", or proves " violence" etc..its actually defamation and getting sick.of it...tends to.always be Americans saying it- is it to justify the shooting on American soil
I can't imagine John Lennon having a fist fight with Harrison at that point. John was a heroin addict and was so painfully thin I don't think he could have punched a hole in a wet paper bag.
There's a medical reason that Yoko was in the studio that I almost never see anyone talk about. She had three miscarriages before she gave birth to Sean. Her blood pressure got too high when she was pregnant, so she had to be bedridden. John wanted her nearby in case anything happened.
Well, the 80 or so Nagra tapes which were supposedly stolen and bootlegged had one reel missing. Yes, it was the reel when the fight supposedly happened. Peter Jackson would know if any Nagra tapes were missing but I don't think he mentioned it. As for whether it happened, Lennon said in an interview that George confronted him about Yoko and had said Dylan and the New York scene were warning about who she was. He then said that he didn't know why he didn't hit him right there and then, and that he should have but that he loved him. In the Peter Jackson film you see Lennon playfully holding up his fists to George and bobbing up and down and George smiling. So perhaps that was John saying sorry?
I can't see George having a punch up with anybody, let alone John, who was an experienced back street brawler. George's only experience with fighting as far as I know was getting punched in the eye at the Cavern Club by a patron who was pissed off that Pete had gotten sacked.
They were so influential and so great that we tend to 'worship ' them, idolize them like 'gods'...And we feel that 'gods' can do no wrong, and above all the weakness of being mortals..But in the end, they're just as human with their own internal struggles, temptations, jealousy, weaknesses, anger and so on...Still, you can feel ( deep down inside ) the love they have for each other when it's all said and done. After all, George did say ' we'll meet again somewhere down the line '!!
I have yet to see George Martin actually say there was a fight
What about 5:13
@@MusicMongoose Is there footage of him actually saying it ? because george Martin was not tthere for most of " Let it be"
@@MusicMongoose there is a video of john and george laughing about a phoney story about them coming to blows
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As someone who has followed the Beatles for over 50 years and played on 2 Beatles "sound alike bands"; I find it difficult to believe that John and George had a physical confrontation in 1969... because.... after the trip to India with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, both George and John became a bit more spiritual and less egotistical. Even during the confrontation in Let it be, when Paul is trying to show off George; George just says, look I'll play the way you want it, or I won't play at all. He could have called Paul 100 names, but he didn't. He had grown spiritually. And by the way so had John. He was 3 years away from writing Imagine. Whatever happened between George and John, Shakespeare woud have called it - Much ado about nothing.
John was a flaky violent junkie. And George had years of pent-up anger.
@@SelectCircle And Paul is really dead, and replaced by overbearing Billy
@@PaulFormentos Do you always respond with something crazy when someone speaks the truth?
BS, it's never been confirmed
Just sharing brotherly love...love hate relationship.
George also had significant personal issues he wanted to deal with and sitting around with the band was a waste of time for him. Later George had noted that he would be okay with being in a band with John again, but not Paul.
"with John again, but not Paul"
That was in the early 70s, when he was still under the thrall of John and Allan Klein.
@@str.77 Thral? Did you mean 'thrall'?
I've never seen a quote where George ever changed his mind. Feel free to share.
@@hungfao Yes, thrall. He later also complained about John and played with Paul. All of the other Beatles came to realise that Paul was right about Klein.
@@str.77 Yes, he complained about John but I never did see anything that said he wouldn't play in a band with him again. It is my understanding that he played with Paul on the Anthology because he needed the money, otherwise it may not have happened.
@@hungfao He played with Paul in the 1980s at least.
"never play with" is not my claim but yours.
Ringo was the only one who was easy to get along with.
Imagine if Eric Clapton joined the Beatles....WOW,!!!
Nah, ole eric woulda quit The Beatles like he quit every band he was in
I would like to think. We're would Harrison be if it's wasn't for John & Paul.
Prolly in a band with Dylan, Petty etc?
Personally, I don’t really care if it happens or not. They’re both gone, anyway. R.I.P.
Whatever George did ya cant compare LENNON-MCCartney and Harrison during the Beatles times. Lennon-McCartney is that made beatles that it was and thats it
Yeah, Lennon-McCartney were the powerhouse duo, but George had his moments too, right?
BULLSHIT. You are brainwashed. Harrison was always held back intentionally by McCartney because of McCartney's ego and extreme selfishness. McCartney was addicted to the attention and money that comes from song writing.
By 1968, it seems John and Paul’s songwriting had become a tad lazy and a little less compelling, whereas George was coming into his own strength. Case in point, arguably the best pair of songs on Abbey Road were Something and Here Comes the Sun, both written by George.
Eu comparo. No Top 10 dos Beatles, 3 músicas são do George Harrison.
"Like this pulloever you sent to me..."
When we die we find out that everything that ever happened on Earth is recorded and we can watch anything that we please. I'll start right in with the Lennon and Harrison fight. Then take a look at Charlie Watts hauling off walloping Mick Jagger. And next I'll check out Chuck Berry punching Keith Richards.
And Daltrey clocking Pete and Keith
Mych to everyones suprise ... the beatles were humans
“Of course, we don’t know if this really happened…” - but we WILL title this video saying it DID happen. Rubbish
Problem is, John was not fallow in 1967 or 1968 , it was the following year his output diminished dramatically.
George's contribution to the group was quite vital. It wasn't really musical, but rather his vibe. He was infinitely hip and probably more in tune to the zeitgeist than any of them. Even before he singlehandedly introduced Indian culture to the West. Minimizing his importance to The Beatles is shortsighted.
Yeah, the whole Rubber Soul/Revolver look was George's fashion sense. The others respected his eye for style, and gladly followed.
I blame Ono.
How satisfying it must have been when in 1973 his song Give Me Love knocked Paul's My Love out of the #1 spot on America's Billboard chart
How satisfying it must have been for Paul to have 9 number one solo hit songs to George's 3.
How satisfying it must have been to have My Love at number 1 for a month while Give Me Love lasted only one week and was gone.
@@braemtes23And yet George, as most critics agree, had the best post-Beatles album with “All Things Must Pass”, and still has the most streamed Beatle’s song by far with “Here Comes the Sun”. There is no denying McCartney’s talent, I think he was the most musically gifted Beatle. George was not as prolific for sure, but he created some beautiful music of his own.
@@michaelc2254 I agree, George created some beautiful music of his own, but by what measure do you determine that ATMP was the best Beatles solo album? The critics can not be trusted because they were punishing Paul in the early 70s because they believed he broke up the Beatles. I was there and remember it well. If you measure it by sales, Band on the Run outsold ATMP. Upon release, ATMP only sold 500,000 copies. After George died it increased to 3,500,000 copies sold. (The RIAA count it as 7x platinum because it is a double album, but that does not reflect the sales.) Whereas, BOTR has sold 3,850,000 copies and is rated 3x platinum.
Spotify is only one medium and is mostly used by millennials and gen Xers. I have never been on Spotify. I buy vinyl and CDs and never download music. I will add to that the number of 20 somethings I've watched on TH-cam that have stated the only Beatles song they have ever heard was HCTS. They know it from childhood when they heard it on The Bee Movie, The Parent Trap, etc. So you are using one medium used predominantly by a group of people whose only knowledge of Beatles music is HCTS.
I am not knocking HCTS. The song is great. I am just saying this comparison is using a weighted scale.
Ringo was never in the Quarrymen, Pete Best was first drummer in Beatles
they had fight in germany...everything else is rubbish
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Of course they did. And Paul being a trooper took the blame for all these years.
George Harrison did well during his time with the Beatles and during his solo career. George, however, was always moaning about everthing and throwing tantrums. In many of the interviews, George was really wicked and cold. I found him to be a nasty bit of work at times.
George never got over sacrifice of Brian and Paul, it was all fun til the debt needed official payment
I remember an interview with Lennon where he was questioned about Harrison. He indignantly replied that Harrison was only a guitarist. That explains everything.
I've always disliked the term "altered states of consciousness". It's almost like you're taking away or hemming up something. Chopping something off. You're actually adding on more than one could ever imagine.
He should have said Stoned outta their minds
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WHY the HORRIFIC graphic effects ? The beatles story isn't enough ? It HAS to be embellished with ridiculous and annoying graphic effects ?
Yep
Since non of them knew how to fight, Im wondering who won or how it broke up?
You're absolutely wrong. John Lennon once smacked Bob Wooler a DJ at the cavern .
John was infamous for getting in fights everywere for about 3 years after his mother died, and I can name two paparazzi photographers just off the top of my head that George Harrison bashed in 1968. They made wonderful music but they were still just dudes in their twenties who liked to use substances. The reality isn't hard to focus unless you're dead set on being willfully blind.
One would think George's word tour would have helped him understand where he was on the Beatles Hierarchy (it was a dud)... sadly, he became a whiny little man.
John & Paul were The Beatles... period.
Rubbish and untrue.
Lennon goaded everyone
They did like their coke.
Schoolboy (or Bot) error - Ringo Starr was never in The Quarrymen
Good spot! 5 gold stars for you
@@MusicMongoose No need to be sarcastic I am just pointing out your error so that you can fix it - you are misleading people by spreading fake history
Brothers fight, band mates fight. Big deal...
harrison may have had a lot of songs but they werent all good enough for the beatles
Bet they were better than Maxwell's Silver Hammer.
@@Kez1a1 its fashionable to rubbish that song but its got more life in it than nearly all of harrisons dreary output
Nice. Good for them. And here I thought they were a bunch of Nancy Boys!
I think george had a tendency to embellish his stories george martin said that E.M.I. wanted lennon mccartney songs they where almost guaranteed 80% return on and album funny thing is that it seemed george would go after paul from what I've seen john wanted to be boss and he still got a great deal of respect especially when he was using heroin with yoko nothing else but her interested john if any of the other boys brought this untalented scarecrow with no talent and take her instruction over Paul's john never would of put up with it I don't think john realized how devastating the early years after the up he may not have been so quick to switchch from paul to yoyo he tried to laugh it off in the late 70s saying paul was a musical genius to bad it was to late paul felt like his brother righting partner and someone to make his music playable on a record joʻhn always thought he could do anything he wanted but paul was much more level headed and george was the cranky kid brother that didn't want to right at first then he thought he was just going to jump right ìn.
Why does anybody expect band members to be all buddy buddy all the time?
I would like the nay sayers to produce any group..male, female, mixed…who did not have arguments, fights, tantrums! When there are groups of people In bands…working, living, travelling together, almost in each other’s pockets every day…tension, tedium, frustrations rear their ugly heads! Added to that is when a superfluous, intrusive, non contributing element is introduced, the ugliness grows exponentially!
No, I think this is a load of coblers.
Two wimps fighting lol big deal
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George was by far the most talented beatle he was the best musician the most intelligent beatle he contributed parts and structures to nearly every beatle song
Actually Paul was by far the best musician in the group.
Seriously? George had talent no doubt but there is no way he was as talented as Paul in the amount if hits paul wrote, the versatile number if instruments paul played proficiently, singing etc. Paul had to do the lead guitar on taxman because george couldn't play it. Paul did it perfectly on the first take.
John & Paul. May Harrison rich.
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George Harrison was so overrated as a guitarist, I mean, he did gradually developed brilliant composing skills and arrangement skills with the beatles, but the beatles never had a very good guitar solo by Harrison, the best one is by Clapton, even more of the good guitar riffs from the beatles were written by John Lennon, the best one also by Clapton. Even Paul Mccartney has more aggressive guitar solos because Harrison had none, while Mccartney had the taxman guitar solo and birthday guitar solo, much more exciting than George Harrison ones...
Couldn't disagree more. Solos aren't everything but George contributed so much tasteful guitar to the band's music. Listen again to the solo on Old Brown Shoe and come back to me.
clearly you don't know the catalogue or you would never make such an ignorant statement
The Beatles weren't a guitar solo type of band. Neither were they a drum solo type of band for that matter. Might be a clue there to their enduring popularity.
Ah, you are aware of the guitar leads for their cover of "Til There Was You" was George, right? Or George's fills for "And I Love You", right?
there are so many fantastic harrison solos. just a ridiculous statement you made. paul played a couple of really good ones and john had a few but I think you should rethink that staement. perhaps you wrote with out thinking all the way through. It happens
IS ALL THE NEGATIVE SHIT REALLY NECESSARY???? 👎👎👎👎👎
More bullshit
It's all based on easily researchable facts, but sure.
@@MusicMongoose they have arguments like everyone but not punch ups