So what I’m hearing is that we shouldn’t have a standing regular army and that the citizens should have the same capability and armament as the government. Kinda like how the founders intended.
If the national guard comes into your neighborhood during SHTF and declares martial law, every member of that community group or neighborhood collectively should view them as an enemy threat and treat them accordingly. You cannot keep hiding or using the boat accident excuse. Eventually we need to stand up and make the police/national guard/military understand that if they're going to attempt to disarm us they better be ready to put their lives on the line for it. Even if we lose, when the rest of the country sees it they will be inspired to do the same. If they know they have a real fight on their hands, they'll be less likely to try it. If you're just going to let them come in and disarm you then you may as well not even have a 2nd Amendment.
Garland thumb did a torture test on a $400 PSA AR, ran like 6k rounds through the barrel without proper cleaning. Budget AR’s can work perfectly fine, and you don’t need a rifle to be sub 1 MOA forever to do the job a vast majority of people will need it for.
If you haven’t watched it, you should watch AK47 Operators Union’s AR15 torture test of the same rifle but he also included DD, BCM and others. Very eye opening.
GT and many gear reviewers are in the pocket of manufacturers, what he gets to test for the world to see is surely going to have the utmost QC compared to you or I buying something from their site. I have some PSA products, they work fine, but my go-to rifle for a bump in the night, SHTF etc..i wouldn't feel comfortable grabbing a PSA
@fanman8102 battlefield las vegas uses PSA uppers for their machine guns. They say they run just as well as they're old colts. If they can survive that abuse it should perform great for the average person. Plus it'll atleast keep you alive long enough to find a better rifle laying around.
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Thanks for saying this cause I’ve been telling people this for years, a lot of guys think they’re gonna be doin boog with the boys while realistically you’re gonna be taking care of family/neighbors and praying to God you don’t get into a conflict cause you’re statistically not going to make it. We all want to be the hero in our own story but we need to be honest
@@HolyRollerGuero You’ve got one of my favorite comments on this video so far. Please continue to drive your point home. You’re making a difference in getting people right with reality
And Law passed in Texas two years ago makes it ILLEGAL here in Texas. I know my County is NOT planning to hand over anything to anyone, armed to the teeth.
You are correct, but just remember during said emergency the police and the military were not carrying what a judge would say 2 to 3 years later act accordingly
Your "rights" are actually privileges. The government makes us feel as though we have control so we don't cause disruptions. When push comes to shove they will violate your rights when they feel like it, word to Edward Snowden.
@@Jae_Shinobirights are granted by God. The Gov tries to frame them as privilidges. Privileges can be taken way, rights can not. This is a godless world.
I was 82 Airborne. We secured super dome and stayed 8 months. Patrolled 9th ward on foot at 2am. A lot of people in the hood didn’t leave. We didn’t confiscate any weapons. I’ve heard black water and others were taking guns. And a lot taken from abandoned homes. But we were a big presence. 11B infantry battalion. Did not confiscate if no threats.
No threats? Who deems is a threat or what is threatening? Just because you didn't do confiscation does not mean that you would not do it. Which means you're saying it's up to you or whoever is in charge what and what is not a threat. Anyone that's armed could be a threat but if they're defending their own property and life nobody not 1 man or the government has any jurisdiction over life and liberty and to pursue happiness. I believe it is armed forces coming in to people's neighborhood's on their property deeming what they feel is threatening and non threatening. It's not going to go like that again. People were caught off guard in Katrina.... Won't happen again. People trusted you guys trusted you to help and like snakes in the grass there were traitors and that'll never happen again. People know now.
That’s utterly and completely false. You’re delusional at best. You know how many interviews I’ve seen where citizens had their entire collection confiscated? You’re uninformed and what’s worst is you decided to comment before opening your mouth.
@@hellobattle4141It’s not a losing attitude, what he said is false. I’m not saying there wasn’t any citizens who authorities left alone but I’m telling you there were more that had their stuff taken. That’s not an opinion. You can live at Disney if you’d like. But you’re in for a rude awakening.
I think mid tier is the way to go for just a few hundred dollars more. The M&P 15's, Ruger 5.56, Sig M400, Springfield Victor etc are all great guns starting from 800-1200 dollars. If you don't have an AR this is the sweet spot for a first gun meaning that you have a gun that's put together by people that know what they are doing and are going to be reliable. It seems folks want to go all in on cheap, or all in on very expensive when there are many great choices right in the middle. I believe that most gun malfunctions come from people always screwing with their guns thinking that they are smarter than the engineers that designed them.
My point exactly. I have two BCM rifles but I would not hesitate for a second to use my M&P Sport 3 if need be. It’s lighter and I know it’ll function as needed.
Man this is an excellent point, not that it matters all that much but years ago, when ruger dropped the AR556 mpr 16, Hop made a video comping it to the BCM recce 15, and essentially said that he recommends the ruger because for $900 you get everything you would on the $1500 BCM, and you'll still have money left over for ammo and accessories.
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my first rifle was the Sig m400 SDI X from a local shop. You are right. its a fantastic mid tier rifle. I got it at 1200. I looked the other day and its more like 1500 at the local shops.
Excellent video and logically presented. As a budget guy, a lot of this was implicitly my thinking as well. Now, the confiscation part during Katrina was eye opening. I had no idea. Enlightening video overall.
That sir, is probably one of the best videos I’ve seen in quite some time, on those topics. Realistic and no fantasy land stuff, like many. Very well done and thank you, it is appreciated.
Wow! I never heard anybody speaking with so much clarity, reality, and sense before about this topic. Yes, I would follow a community leader who tries to put a group together by approaching the "pre-shtf" situation this way. Great video!
The large majority of guys with mid-budget rifles shoot from the bench about 1000 rounds year. They aren't running/gunning and engaging targets ranging from 25-300 yards in a course of fire. Most can't jog a mile with no gear for a mile and most don't get their heart rate up and shoot. Most don't learn to be able to double tap and know the ballistic arc of their rifle/ammo from 25-400 yards and confirmed it.
Yes. Even a lot of physically fit don't know how to wear and run in a plate carrier with a rifle, and how to do all the maneuvers necessary to just move with the gear.
@@matthewburrow3089lol wtf are u talking about. Its not complicated. Stop trying to make urself feel special. If ur physically fit (cardio), ull be fine in kit.
@@THENXGABE Thanks bud. You know it’s usually only my fellow vets who understand combat and practicality who tend to be more realistic. It’s these civilians who were too chicken shit to serve who like to talk tough about what they’ll do and not do. I think it’s overcompensating. Thanks for your service!
I just discovered your channel and really appreciated your opinion's, on these matters! Long ago, I was a young Infantry soldier. I'm still trying to recover from my Open Heart Surgery, last April 1st. Have knee trouble, on top of everything else! I saw a T-shirt that said: Too old to fight! Too slow to run! But, I can still shoot! I don't want anything, like a Civil War scenario to happen! Because I don't want the very young, and the very old, to have to pay the price, for all of the unintended consequences, that would happen, should such a thing occur! Yes, there would be safety in numbers! I pray that cooler heads would prevail! Anyway, great video, and I look forward to more of your videos! From one old soldier, to another, please, take care of yourself!
@@markknivila8383 Thanks for your comment Mark!!! I really appreciate it. I wish more people had your mentality in this country. We’ll just know that I will stand and do the right thing no matter the cost. I have to put these type of videos out to give people realistic perspectives. God bless you sir and thank you for your service!
In a similar situation here, I'm an Army Vet, 62 years old now, have had several mini strokes over the years so health is not the greatest, can't bug out, currently caring for elderly family member, have protection, but only for my home in the event of an emergency which would most likely be people looting or seeking supplies from others. Wish I could find a group of people nearby to hook up with , but I don't see any! But I'm glad to have lived the life I did, but my heart just breaks for the way things are going on the world stage. Thanks to our Veterans, and the patriotic people of America ! May the Lord keep you safe! 🇺🇸
My magic number was always double a combat load in 5.56. You just have to be prepared for the extra weight. How you choose to move is more important than what you choose to carry though. That was true during Katrina as well. Just my personal opinion.
I watched a Podcast of a fuy who ran a shelter in a South American country who got into a firefight with a local cartel. He said he shot 30 rounds in a 3 hour gunfight where he was pinned down and about same for the partner he had with him.
Not only that, but it hurts less if you have to dump it so you can live to fight another day or not get locked up. I can build a couple of cheap rifles for the price of 1 high end rig.
The real question is not how many rounds the Coalition Forces fired in Iraq and Afghanistan, is how many rounds the insurgents used to actually defeat their opponent. And firearms were not their main weapon. That is just a fact.
As prior military I have used M16A1 and A2. The M16's are good but I have put together better AR's with quality parts. I don't have full auto but it is of limited use most of the time and burns through lots of ammo too fast. That is one thing you do not want as a civilian without a helicopter or trucks dropping off more food , water and ammo that military have at their disposal.
Good points brought up in a local non-permissive (hostile) environment. What I mean to say is that if it is a SHTF for something like Katrina. If it is across the US, it becomes a much different situation. Take Afghanistan for example. We had ISAF (International Security Assistance Force). This was comprised of US, UK, German, French, Spanish, Canadian, Australian and Local National (Afghan Military) forces. Afghanistan is roughly the size of Texas. Even with all those forces, the country was not able to be pacified or fully controlled. Now think how much harder it would be if you only had the United States Military in a Country ten times that size. What the US Military is good at is logistics. Thus, they will pick certain points they can and will control. This means mainly larger cities leaving the smaller cities, towns and rural areas to control of either National Guard units and/or local police. The issue with this is that the National Guard troops and/or local police live in the community they would have to attempt to control. As such, many would start finding out really fast the best way to survive is to not tyrannize the community but assist in the defense and protection of it. Which means they would be more likely to help as those that may be against them know where they live and such. This does mean that budget AR’s are good for many. As when the community starts working together, their skill set may not be towards any sort of combat. Thus, a rifle for defense if needed is optimal and that could be a budget option. Others though, may have the skill set towards that kind of role. Which means they should have the best equipment they can obtain. As their life will be more dependent on that equipment as will others within that community. Now, I started out with a budget option. Just to keep up with the training I had already received. It worked great for that. When I started taking more advanced courses, I did find out that my budget option was less than optimal. Which is why I upgraded when I could. I still have a budget option to go out and train with. However, I also have a few set up that are far better for use in a non-permissive environment. As my skill set is more towards combat or defense of my community. Thus, I demand and expect the best performance/reliability out of my rifle. TL:DR - Budget is great for most people. Those that can do so, should go for a better rifle when possible. As the Military even in a Martial Law situation will likely not be able to be in your area if you live in a small town or rural area.
Aero Precision rifles are affordable, but they are definitely a step above all the other brands that you mentioned. Their quality & QC is well above all those "entry-level" brands. Are there lemons out there? Sure, but I'd take an Aero any day over a PSA, Anderson, Bear Creek, Delton, or even a Spikes.
@@universallaw8850 Well I own several Aero guns, to include a few that I asssembled myself or completed the lowers & added complete uppers to. Not a single one has given me an issue that wasn't mag-related. Even those were expected because the mags were older Thermold-types. All other mag types I used ran fine. I also own several or the other brands mentioned & the feel, fit & finish, as well as overall lack of malfunctions with the Aeros puts them in a category above the bottom tier guns mentioned IMHO. I also have several Spikes guns, & I don't necessarily even consider them "bottom-tier", but either way the Aero stuff is much nicer. Of course, your mileage may vary, but QC is a major component of ensuring reliability, is it not?
Most modern ARs are reliable and accurate enough to fit most needs. Yes some are better than others but at the end of the day it's knowing your tool , maintaining it, training with it, and knowing its strengths and weaknesses. The tool is just one part of the equation.
Brothers new to the game and tight on funds, GET that Psa or Bca and train with it. I managed to shoot my Bca barrel out and the groups were opening up after about 8k rounds. Now it’s got a sons of Liberty (BA) chf barrel and a Toolcraft bcg. I get to go proof it with a few hundred rounds tomorrow. That budget rifle will likely serve you just fine for as long as you ever need it, but keep in mind you can upgrade it as time goes by. Love you guys and stay safe. Thanks for the video brother!
@@kevinleben579 Anytime brother! Yes 8k through a bca is A LOT of rounds, and hats great advice about upgrading. That’s what makes ARs so great. You can drop in a bcg, etc. to make it better! God bless Kevin!
It's always nice to have some extras to share. Buy low/mid, upgrade to good along the way while saving for top tier. Also, I have an Aero BCG that's got a finish on it and it seems to shed carbon. Its tolerances and machining are some of the best I've ever seen. Sliding that BCG into the JP upper for the first time I thought it wasn't going to fit but once it got going... zero slop. I'd like to stress a point here: ammo. Sure having 'enough' is a good thing. I highly recommend getting something sealed with staked primers, low flash/temp stable powder, and an annealed case. There are commercial offerings that will satisfy that list but let's be real, government overruns/surplus is the way to go. Pick a good manufacture, make sure if it says '193' it *is* 193, and buy low, buy *a LOT* and store it well. If you don't know why I listed all those above suggestions/requirements for my ammo spec, please ask and I'll do my best to explain.
These are great points. Let’s say a community decides to police their own streets because things have gone to crap. Well, under martial law, as soon as as action happens in a neighborhood to any significant degree or a community is too overtly projecting force, that’s when professional forces will take control of the area. Patrolling with APCs and drones. I’m a fan of the idea of a silent, suppressed subsonic weapon like an AR9 or .300 Blackout for defense in this scenario. If you can defend yourself without drawing attention, maybe you can avoid being disarmed or calling the wolves to your door. I think the only major factor that could change this is if a “civil war” has international players. For instance, if NATO decided to back one side and BRICS backs another, then things could change dramatically and turn a domestic crisis into a full scale, more conventional civil war.
What up Vlog moor, love the content … you were one of the first TH-camrs I listen to when I first got into firearms during COVID. Glad to see you back on my feed. subbed.
I think “budget” encompasses a wide variety of things. 1. There are budget ARs which will suffer frequent malfunctions with low round counts. 2. There are budget ARs in which the QC is inconsistent, so they may experience frequent malfunctions with low round counts, or they may be perfectly fine. 3. You have budget ARs where you carefully calculated cost/benefit of various parts and ended up with an AR that will be adequate for extended hard use for a cheap price. 1 you should avoid, 2 you’re taking a risk, 3 is a bit more legwork but if you’re looking for a budget build IMO it’s what you should absolutely do. You’re correct about realistically it doesn’t matter, but when it’s all the same price, there is no reason whatsoever to not hunt that good deal down and do your research to get a better rifle for the same cost.
I agree with your main point. I think it's important to delineate between budget and bargain bin ARs. if you get a S&W Sport (2) or some basic Palmetto model, you're generally fine, but you're right that it's important to put a few hundred rounds though the gun and zero it, just to make sure you don't have a rare lemon (but really, you should be training and doing that anyway). Where I disagree with you is on the math of a firefight, especially the military statistic applying to post-collapse shootouts. it takes thousands of rounds per one hit for a military, because of a number of reasons not applicable to civilians. just think of how much ammo a SAW gunner expands in any engagement, and his primary job is never really to try and hit anyone. and every member of a squad has the ability to go full auto, bumping hundreds and thousands of rounds in total per firefight in the general direction of an enemy that's a mile away. and they do that because the military has an almost infinite supply of rifle rounds, as far as any grunt is concerned. you have crates of ammo moving with you with vehicles, if you're cut off from base resupply, you can call in a speedball drop. And last but not least, unless you're clearing houses, most of your shots are just to keep someone pinned down until air support or artillery gets them. That is very very different from any SHTF scenario a civilian or a group of civilians will find themselves in. when you are the one giving yourself orders, and you can disengage at any moment and don't need to spray and keep someone pinned down for half 20 min straight, when you have limited ammo on you and back at wherever your base of operations/homestead is, and when most engagements are likely to occur within shorter distances and most parties have semi-auto only capability, and when rifles are your only primary means of doing damage to the enemy, I guarantee you it will take a lot less than thousands of rounds to get one shot on target. Now that only further proves your point, you don't need a rifle capable of going through thousands of rounds in a single firefight, because you won't have or need to expand thousands of rounds. and if you're dumb enough to engage someone who can, then in most cases but the very few, it won't really matter how Gucci the rifle is, if the operator is a moron.
@Saint_Anger_71 If it is SHTF I don't think there will be any government round ups to worry about. But standing and fighting a prolonged firefight is not a good idea for survival. Shoot and break contact. Fire and maneuver out of area so you are not surrounded and taken out.
@Saint_Anger_71 I agree moving around is more dangerous particularly with dependents , but homes are not good cover from bullets so sand bags would have to be filled and placed for safety at window firing points and fire extinguishers ready.
@Saint_Anger_71Will all due respect, I’d seriously reevaluate you’re strategy. I usually don’t give this type of advice on my channel, but I would imagine you mean well and I can say from what I can see potentially happen, you may have to reconsider quite a few things.
Thank you for this video. A channel by the name of Trex arms said you aren't 2A woth a cheap rifle. A person can arm their whole house for the price of a top shelf rifle. A lot of us work crazy hours and won't wear out ours rifles because we don't have time.
@@tattedandgatted You’re welcome! Funny you bring up that channel because they’re one of the reasons why so many Americans have become prissy about firearm ownership. They’re elite larpers over there and I highly suspect that all that “2A” rhetoric they’re talking about will go out of the window when accurate fire goes zipping past their heads.
Just an fyi, the 250 round stat was found to be mostly because of the people who intentionally shoot to miss. Soldiers who are afraid to kill (understandably) and shoot in the direction of the enemy without truly trying to kill the enemy. There’s also suppressant fire/shooting a large volley of rounds in order to cover someone or disperse the group advancing. So there are reasons for why that number is so high, but I don’t think it directly translates to an shtf scenario
@@rouchenelvann I highly doubt that the number of warning shots outnumbers the amount of actual shoot to kill shots in a combat zone. In addition, suppression fire is also intended to kill so trying to negate the numbers is invalid.
@@vlogmoor that’s erroneous as hell, smh, but sure. There’s literally no way to state as fact that suppressor fire is intended to kill 🤦🏾♂️ what does that even mean? It’s so nebulous as to be pointless. You reference a stat without knowing what was considered, reframe my initial point into a strawman argument, then argue against a point you didn’t even know was part of the stat that you referenced. Great job in deterring a potential sub
@@rouchenelvann Just so you know, whenever we’re taught to enact suppression fire, it’s in the direction of the people who you’re inevitably trying to kill. You seem oblivious to how combat works. You don’t lay suppression fire in the air do you? You lay it in the direction of the enemy. If they don’t get down, they get shot. It’s simple. I really don’t need a subscription from a jackass. Go to another channel and argue with them.
In operation “Red Wings” footage you can see that a lot of rounds weren’t actually fired yet the results were still just a small poorly trained group of afghanis with a single machine gun were able to wipe most of a fire team of highly equipped and skilled SEALs with just surprise and high ground. I like to use that battle as what I think SHTF skirmishes and combat would end up being like
I have 4 loaded 556 AR mags with an additional 100rds of lose 556 rds and 2 loaded 10rd 12 gauge mags loaded with 3" 00 buck for my bull pup with an aditional 50 shells in my go pack, along with a small 3 man tent, sleeping bag, 20 bic lighters, 200 water purification tabs and straws, compass, small collapsible fly rod, collapsible pot for cooking, rolled up chef knife set, my wife has 2 loaded AR-10 mags for our .308, 90 lose .308rds, she has our winter coats, a pair of pants for both of us, 5 pairs of underwear, socks and thermals rolled up in her go bag, along with 90 protein meal replacement bars, I take her to the range every weekend to train with her AR-15, my AR-10 along with her Springfield hellcat 9mm edc, I have a glock 22 for edc, we also have a couple boxes of 40S&W and 9mm fmj's and each a spare edc mag in our bags, we've gone to the range and trained almost every weekend for the past 7 years, when we first started dating my wife was alreasy familiar with firearms, her father and brothers are avid hunters, she grew up deer and turkey hunting, shes just as good as me on her groups at the range, hopefully we'll last longer than some, especially since we train and both grew up hunting, my wife can field dress a deer better than most as long as I hang it for her 😅
@anthonyyoungen4709 thank you, I hope it never comes to that as well, we have a 2 year old son that I worry for with the way things in the world are heading at the moment, God Bless.
I have a budget AR with all of $800 invested into it and it has been a rock solid performer with almost a thousand rounds through it, and honestly, I overspent with adding Magpul furniture and a free-float rail on it because those things just aren't necessary. I dont baby it, but I dont try and melt it down either, and it has been 100% reliable. Would I like to have a $3K SCAR or MCX ? Sure ! But, I gotta keep thing on this side of the reality check.
The Katrina gun confiscation went to the US Supreme Court, the decision was final and clear the govt, federal, state, local can not confiscate a lawfully possessed firearm in any case of a martial law event. This was a little publicized decision, most people that didn’t get their weapons back moved out of state or simply didn’t know.
Supreme Court rulings don't matter to fedgov. They do want they want, regardless of what the Supreme Court says. Just look at how the current admin regards SC rulings.
Great video man. I own a few Palmetto Rifles and honestly love them ived fired about 1000 rounds through one of them and so far have never had any issues I own a few other rifles from high end names and I have more issues with them and they are more pricey guns.. again great video
You would be surprised how many of the big company's have QC problems, and alot of AR manufacturers use a handful of company's for most parts like castings (uppers and lowers) but also BCGs and alot of small parts.then most affordable optics are made in China. I would get a PSA premium upper on sale (16 to 20") with good handguards, 2x quality milspec phosphate or fully chromed BGCs, other coatings are useless as in sure easy to clean but if they are not chrome properly on the inside don't bother but upgrade the extractor springs. Pinned gas or front sight block and a quality gas tube. Nearly all lowers are milspec so just get a decent one but buy good lower parts but get one without the FGC, then get a good FGC that has a nice trigger but one that is not drop in and is more like an enchanted milspec FGC that uses full power springs. Also make sure you have a good buffer tube, buffer and spring. The most important thing is to make sure the barrel is clocked. The gas system is effective and all parts are stacked properly and torqued properly. The best advice for this is "school of the American rifle", I would also recommend using a borescope to checkout the barrel and inside the BCG I would recommend a magnified prism optic (and a backup QD optic) a free-float rail and steel backup irons, and a spare bolt, as for a muzzle device a short but effective flashider standard A2 is cheap, as for stocks if your going with an 18 or 20 then an A2 stock as it can handle alot of abuse I would recommend using steel USGI mags with the latest followers and putting loose ammo o stripper clips with a few guides and spoons vacumme packed. Some oil, a small cleaning kit with a snake but also a take down rod incase you have a stuck cartridge. A 20" barrel can reach out alot longer and if bayonettes are your thing then you have the option. Budget AR10s the standard was mostly set by KAC and LMT so I don't know if I would trust a cheap AR10. A decent 9mm semi auto that's reliable also. If you need something short 5.56 and AR pistols are not great, 7.62x39 is more plentiful than .300 and I could only recommend 2 short AKs a 10 inch Zastava or a 12.2" Romanian Draco. Can rivet in a side optic rail, and use a folding brace, with a magnified dot or optic your good out to 300 years in a small package. If your "bugging out" then its a great idea to get a .308 rifle, if you can afford a semi auto that's decent get a bolt gun, I think the howa 1500 is a top quality rifle for the money. Whatever 12g shotgun you like pump or semi with an extended tube and a set of chokes I cluding a rifled choke. The most useful rifle will be a takedown 10/22 You can also get some very small reloading equipment. Everything depends on your area and circumstances but what most people realy forget is essential medications and first aid supplies. To put it bluntly if you are dependant on insulin your at the mercy of the government. Stocking up on antibiotics, sedatives. Pain pills and other essential medications could save your life and the life of others not to mention the price someone would be willing to pay for a course of strong oral or injected antibiotics. As for a buyout car I reccomend an older Toyota stick shift diesel as they last forever. Very reliable as gas will rubout first. You can use hydraulic oil, 2stroke oil. Engine oil, kerosine either with a heavy oil even cooking oil in the summer so it's very versatile. If the electrical system goes down diesel engines don't need it so you can just bump start it. Also if the rule of law does not apply then you can use supressors and unfinished ones are easy to get. The idea of people as in 1 person surviving alone for a long period of time is almost fiction, you realy need a group.
The doctrine I subscribe to is avoidance at all cost if SHTF. If there are people on the road, wait for them pass. If people see me I tell them to leave us alone and head into the woods near by. Easier said than done I know but it is the doctrine I live by when it comes to this.
Cost has NO bearing on what is a good gun. All a firearm has to do is function, be accurate, & repeatable. There are $400.00 rifles that are just great. You can spend all the money on the bolt on do-dads, but they really dont help with functionality.
Quality costs money. AR15s can absolutely be assembled incorrectly, and budget brands like PSA have a track record of doing just that. Spend the little bit more for something like a BCM where the quality control is actually good so you can be more confident in having a properly made rifle.
I have a 14.5” BCM with a surefire war comp pinned and welded. I love that rifle. But, I’ll also recommend a PSA to a newcomer and say practice with it.
@@mindsetperformance5509 We need more gun owners like you around. Someone who can afford the higher grade weapons but still know enough to recommend the more affordable ones to blue collar folks. Salute.
So you consider Aero Precision and Spikes Tactical budget rifles? Hmm I must be misinformed. With all respect, just curious why you consider those budget rifles? I’ve seen some pretty expensive examples of both. Thanks
Very good points here, especially the aspect about this being 2024 and not 1776. Owning a KAC rifle doesn't change the fact civilians don't have the same logistic capabilities as the military industrial complex, and that many people are using preparedness as a way to justify fantasising about a scenario that they haven't thought about critically. Yes I own multiple high end rifles, but I understand exactly what you are illustrating here.
People over think this stuff. Anything that will go bang when needed is 99% of the time be fine. A proficient person with a 1022 is better than a novice with a $2000 AR.
IDK if I agree with everything you said, but atleast you're thinking. I do think what you say is relevant to many aspects of different possibilities. And, you're adding to the greater good of the conversation. Appreciate your thoughts.
The premium upper PSA with the FN barrel , Melonite gas tube with a G super block pinned to barrel it’s pretty Bullet proof , at that point you’ll just need a good BCG
350 rounds including secondary weapons systems. For bugging out is ideal in my opinion. Anywhere from 200 to 250 for rifle. With 50 to 100 pistol ammo. Travel as light as possible. Still need to add water and food weight. Navigation material, shelter material, and hygiene including medical. All in all for an inexperienced person in the woods weigh your bag. Do not exceed 30 but closer to 20 pounds is more ideal. I've done training in mountains with loads of 20, 35, and 60 pounds. It is possible to do alot of weight, but only for someone with the right training, and in good shape only.
My thoughts...I have Gooche shit....I have PSA ....arrow... Personally I would run any cheap AR as long as I swapped out the BCG ..A Great BCG as and A Average AR will be more than sufficient
One thing that beginner often don't comprehend, although actually it should be obvious; is that a 30 round mag of fmj ammo costs on the average of $ 15.oo to $ 18.oo.. Eighteen dollars per mag. × 7 mags equals $ 126 dollars . Spend your money on ammo. !
Great video. Great group of commentators. Very informative and thought provoking. I'd love to hear about barrel length preference opinions and reasoning for that one go-to rifle?
After seeing this video I think I am leaning towards my Norinco AK 47 rifle instead of one of my Smith and Wesson sport rifles . Aso you cant beat a Glock pistol and a good 38 j-frame pocket revolver as a back up.
Great video. I’d like to mention that I think utilizing the military’s data of their average round-count to eliminate one enemy threat doesn’t really apply to what the prepared citizen might face here in the USA in my opinion. You gotta think, first of all the theatre of where this metric comes from is large mountain ranges and deserts with sparse villages miles apart. Of course your gonna expend a lot of ammo when your enemy is 600 meters away. Not only that, but I feel like that metric also takes into consideration suppression. They have the budget to expend ammo like that for the purpose of suppression. We don’t. I think a majority of the potential gun fighting scenarios a prepared citizen could encounter during a SHTF event would be self-defense distances (
Almost sold my m&p sport to get something nicer. It’s a comfortable ergonomic gun so I just changed out the hand guard got a decent red dot sight and a pair of pop up sights. Haven’t cleaned gun and shot it 3 times no feed issues even without cleaning gonna keep it. Same thing with the security 9 and a Taurus g3 was going to trade for a gloc but they work so don’t need to upgrade
@@successquotes233 Good man. Take it from me, who sold my Sport 2 in order to get my first BCM, you’re not missing out on anything. That Sport is one of the best rifles ever made for the money. You’re good to go. Please like and subscribe!
@@practicalcivilian3259 thanks buddy. My videos usually only resonate with people who use practicality and common sense. Hence why your username is what it is. Stay tough and prepare bud.
Get a psa lower with whatever furniture you want on it. Then get a bcm blem upper. Less than 900. Chf cl barrel, quality bcg. Concern with budgets is the qc. So you have to vet it. But bcm qc all there stuff. Bigger issue is durability/longevity/reliability. Accuracy is easy enough if you take the time to find the right ammo. Have extra mags. Have a good optic, something durable and can see out as far as you need it to to see targets that don't want to be seen, you're not seeing something camouflaged at 100yds with a red dot, possibly not with a 3x magnifier either. Back up irons or fixed irons. Sling and light. Then shoot/train.
I just think its crazy literally every guy thinks they are going to be a lone commando if SHTF happens. This is not reality and it only takes one bullet to end you. But you are absolutely right a budget AR is better than no AR at all!!! My point is you can have 10k rounds but if you get hit once it could be all over. They key would be to avoid all engagements.
@@austinbratton9973 Exactly!!! I make these videos for people like you who have common sense and can share to others who are maybe a bit too delusional. Keep up the level headed ness!
I would say that the lower doesn’t matter as much as the upper. So Anderson, PSA, Spike, and Aero would be perfectly acceptable, although I would argue the M4E1 is a lot beefier than a standard lower. The upper/bolt is going to have so much pressure running through it. You can’t skimp on that because that is what will put you out of business. I would avoid BCA at all costs. Aero would be your minimum, although I hear they’ve been lacking in the QC department lately.
I really like this video I own a BCM ar15 and I know it's not a budget rifle but It makes my heart warm and fuzzy. But I don't mind budget rifles I started with a Radical and it was good. Just do a lot of training with what you have a gun is better than a stick.
@@hunter1028 I agree. My end of times AR is a BCM C8 SFW clone. Of course I’d also still rock my S&W sport 3 too if I had to. Like you said it’s about training and smarts. That’ll get most people through almost every situation
yes, they ARE, IF you have a silencer, trigger job, scope OPTION, night sights, 60 gr Nosler Partition softpoitns, 22lr conversion unit, 60 gr Aquila 22 subsonic ammo, night vision, armor and brains enough to stay hidden during daylight.
I own PSA rifles. They’re okay. I have more than one because “two is one and one is none” is a law of the universe. I have a police acquaintance who says that a Ruger 10/22 is more than adequate for home defense. He was initial on-scene officer for scores/maybe hundreds of shootings. Every time a 10/22 was involved the shooting was a fatality.
@@DCavalcade I believe this account 100%. I own a 10/22, and if I had to choose one rifle for total self reliance with no turning back, I’d choose the Ruger hands down. You can carry thousands of rounds on your persons, hunt, and defend against predators up to black bear. It’s a wonder weapon.
@@navyvet886 Thanks so much bro! I appreciate it. It’s usually the vets who get it. The goofy larpers are the ones who typically don’t get it. Thanks for your service!
If you're shooting good .223 rounds instead of 5.56 rounds, like gold dots, fusion, critical defense, shit even 55gr fmj is hard hitting. That way lower pressure will help extend that life
A Winchester mod 70 won't fire as fast, but a 30.06 hits a bit harder than a .223 and can do it from a Lot further away. It's basically a refined Mauser 98k, solid as an anvil and utterly reliable. No bugging out, because I'm already well out in the country. I'll stand with my neighbors.
In a real SHTF against a military force there will be other people and governments arming combatants. There are always some group that wants the downfall of your opponent or wants the money.
I don’t get that If the mindset is to always give up when confronted with the military, whats the point of having a weapon? Seems the talk should be more about how to come together as a community to protect your neighborhood from the military if the SHTF. The US armed population dwarves the US military.drones and bombs are not an option when you are trying to occupy an area. Besides the fallout from bombing your own citizens wouldn’t be good for moral of your cause… however being they control the media… that can make it dangerious
Cartels are doing that right now all over the country. Check out sheriffs in California talking about illegal grow operations and parts of entire counties being taken over. Also the current Oregon apartment complexes being taken over. There are more examples.
I don't know if Aero Precision is "budget." Complete upper receivers cost $500-900 alone. Sometimes you can get a blem or production overrun for $350-400. AP/Stag for me is mid tier.
So long as you have a rifle that works it's better than no rifle at all. I have very high end shit now but I started with a cheap DPMS with iron sights and a bunch of super cheap ammo. The most important thing is that you can hit what your are aiming at, the rifle is reliable, and you have ammo. After that it's all extra. I have a very high paying job now so I can afford the top shelf shit but that's irrelevant. You need at least 1000 rounds for your rifle and 1000 rounds for your handgun. Preferably you want alot of that pistol ammo to be defensive ammo. I also try to keep about 500 rounds of buckshot and like 200 slugs at minimum. Build it up over time and make sure that you get training. It's useless to have a firearm that you can not use proficiently. Also the idea of bugging out is not viable unless you are a single man with no family in the area. Are you really going to leave your woman, children, pets, and friends all behind? The other thing is that your average of ammo expended per kill is not talking about urban combat and gorilla tactics. That is a ridiculous point and the war in Ukraine has demonstrated that. War inside the US would be brutal and the casualty rate would be devastating.
Not that many rounds were fired with roof koreans though. Perhaps consider something a bit more long range in that case and a bit more precision. Also consider multiple concealable firearms instead of a large ar-15 that is visible unless you want that confiscated easily. Pistols were enough to deter many with roof koreans. However large firearms were also a deterrent.
@@thereturn9320 Thanks for the comment. I have read about this law, and I understand that although this law is protected during martial law declared because of a natural disaster, there is no concrete evidence that they wouldn’t attempt to ignore the law during what they may label an “insurrection”. I do think they’re are too many gun owners to try this with overall but there have been plenty of Americans unconstitutionally disarmed due to red flag laws. So it’s still a possibility is all I’m saying.
So what I’m hearing is that we shouldn’t have a standing regular army and that the citizens should have the same capability and armament as the government. Kinda like how the founders intended.
THIS 👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼
I wonder what the north Vietnamese or the afghans would have said to this guy if he wanted to enlighten them.
@@mattbertrand9496 For the most part!
@@chuckb3489 What do you mean
That’s what I heard too
If the national guard comes into your neighborhood during SHTF and declares martial law, every member of that community group or neighborhood collectively should view them as an enemy threat and treat them accordingly. You cannot keep hiding or using the boat accident excuse. Eventually we need to stand up and make the police/national guard/military understand that if they're going to attempt to disarm us they better be ready to put their lives on the line for it. Even if we lose, when the rest of the country sees it they will be inspired to do the same. If they know they have a real fight on their hands, they'll be less likely to try it. If you're just going to let them come in and disarm you then you may as well not even have a 2nd Amendment.
Can't stand the losers that say they lost their tools in a boating accident
I volunteer your house to be the 1st for set the example on how to go against military. 😂😅
Ruby ridge part 2 from this guy
@@texaspatriot9159
Exactly
@@franklinwill22
Why do you even have firearms then
You will be fine IF YOU TRAIN WITH IT!!!!!! you only fight the way you train FACTS!!!
Garland thumb did a torture test on a $400 PSA AR, ran like 6k rounds through the barrel without proper cleaning. Budget AR’s can work perfectly fine, and you don’t need a rifle to be sub 1 MOA forever to do the job a vast majority of people will need it for.
Unless the military changed requirements, 4 inch grouping is required for service.
If you haven’t watched it, you should watch AK47 Operators Union’s AR15 torture test of the same rifle but he also included DD, BCM and others. Very eye opening.
GT and many gear reviewers are in the pocket of manufacturers, what he gets to test for the world to see is surely going to have the utmost QC compared to you or I buying something from their site. I have some PSA products, they work fine, but my go-to rifle for a bump in the night, SHTF etc..i wouldn't feel comfortable grabbing a PSA
@fanman8102 battlefield las vegas uses PSA uppers for their machine guns. They say they run just as well as they're old colts. If they can survive that abuse it should perform great for the average person. Plus it'll atleast keep you alive long enough to find a better rifle laying around.
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Thanks for saying this cause I’ve been telling people this for years, a lot of guys think they’re gonna be doin boog with the boys while realistically you’re gonna be taking care of family/neighbors and praying to God you don’t get into a conflict cause you’re statistically not going to make it. We all want to be the hero in our own story but we need to be honest
@@HolyRollerGuero You’ve got one of my favorite comments on this video so far. Please continue to drive your point home. You’re making a difference in getting people right with reality
@@vlogmoor I appreciate it man I just found your content so I’m gonna go down a rabbit hole for a bit lol.
Okay bro, thanks for your input. 😂😂😂
@@HolyRollerGuero hope you enjoy bud! Please consider liking and subscribing! Check out the 380 video too. You’ll maybe like that one.
@@vlogmoor I already subscribed after this video! Haha and I’m watching the .380 one I think it’s a very underrated round
Preach on bro! I always say get in shape make sure your rifle is zeroed and reliable and know your holds and put up food and water!!
@@AppalachianSmokewagon Thanks for your support bud! I try to do common sense videos for common sense people like you. God bless!
Confiscating weapons after Katrina was deemed unconstitutional
And Law passed in Texas two years ago makes it ILLEGAL here in Texas. I know my County is NOT planning to hand over anything to anyone, armed to the teeth.
You are correct, but just remember during said emergency the police and the military were not carrying what a judge would say 2 to 3 years later act accordingly
And the gun takers did not go to jail.
Your "rights" are actually privileges. The government makes us feel as though we have control so we don't cause disruptions. When push comes to shove they will violate your rights when they feel like it, word to Edward Snowden.
@@Jae_Shinobirights are granted by God. The Gov tries to frame them as privilidges. Privileges can be taken way, rights can not. This is a godless world.
I was 82 Airborne. We secured super dome and stayed 8 months. Patrolled 9th ward on foot at 2am. A lot of people in the hood didn’t leave. We didn’t confiscate any weapons. I’ve heard black water and others were taking guns. And a lot taken from abandoned homes. But we were a big presence. 11B infantry battalion. Did not confiscate if no threats.
No threats? Who deems is a threat or what is threatening? Just because you didn't do confiscation does not mean that you would not do it. Which means you're saying it's up to you or whoever is in charge what and what is not a threat. Anyone that's armed could be a threat but if they're defending their own property and life nobody not 1 man or the government has any jurisdiction over life and liberty and to pursue happiness. I believe it is armed forces coming in to people's neighborhood's on their property deeming what they feel is threatening and non threatening. It's not going to go like that again. People were caught off guard in Katrina.... Won't happen again. People trusted you guys trusted you to help and like snakes in the grass there were traitors and that'll never happen again. People know now.
I dont care if its worth 100,000 or 100$,if shtf your gonna grab it and use it.
Facts
Id rather have 10 million free patriots with a 400 dollar AR than 400 free patriots with million dollar ARs.....
Armed groups who told National Guard and law enforcement they won't give them up weren't disarmed during Katrina.
Exactly, and this guy has a loosing attitude
@@hellobattle4141A loooooooooooooosing attitude? 😂😂😂😂 Where'd you go to school? 😂😂😂😂
That’s utterly and completely false. You’re delusional at best. You know how many interviews I’ve seen where citizens had their entire collection confiscated? You’re uninformed and what’s worst is you decided to comment before opening your mouth.
@@hellobattle4141It’s not a losing attitude, what he said is false. I’m not saying there wasn’t any citizens who authorities left alone but I’m telling you there were more that had their stuff taken. That’s not an opinion. You can live at Disney if you’d like. But you’re in for a rude awakening.
They can take whatever they want during Martial law
I think mid tier is the way to go for just a few hundred dollars more. The M&P 15's, Ruger 5.56, Sig M400, Springfield Victor etc are all great guns starting from 800-1200 dollars. If you don't have an AR this is the sweet spot for a first gun meaning that you have a gun that's put together by people that know what they are doing and are going to be reliable. It seems folks want to go all in on cheap, or all in on very expensive when there are many great choices right in the middle. I believe that most gun malfunctions come from people always screwing with their guns thinking that they are smarter than the engineers that designed them.
My point exactly. I have two BCM rifles but I would not hesitate for a second to use my M&P Sport 3 if need be. It’s lighter and I know it’ll function as needed.
Man this is an excellent point, not that it matters all that much but years ago, when ruger dropped the AR556 mpr 16, Hop made a video comping it to the BCM recce 15, and essentially said that he recommends the ruger because for $900 you get everything you would on the $1500 BCM, and you'll still have money left over for ammo and accessories.
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Most overlooked mid priced rifle out there is the IWI Zion.
my first rifle was the Sig m400 SDI X from a local shop. You are right. its a fantastic mid tier rifle. I got it at 1200. I looked the other day and its more like 1500 at the local shops.
Excellent video and logically presented. As a budget guy, a lot of this was implicitly my thinking as well. Now, the confiscation part during Katrina was eye opening. I had no idea. Enlightening video overall.
@@vikramgupta2326 I really appreciate that. I make these videos for people like you!
That sir, is probably one of the best videos I’ve seen in quite some time, on those topics. Realistic and no fantasy land stuff, like many.
Very well done and thank you, it is appreciated.
Wow! I never heard anybody speaking with so much clarity, reality, and sense before about this topic. Yes, I would follow a community leader who tries to put a group together by approaching the "pre-shtf" situation this way.
Great video!
The large majority of guys with mid-budget rifles shoot from the bench about 1000 rounds year. They aren't running/gunning and engaging targets ranging from 25-300 yards in a course of fire. Most can't jog a mile with no gear for a mile and most don't get their heart rate up and shoot. Most don't learn to be able to double tap and know the ballistic arc of their rifle/ammo from 25-400 yards and confirmed it.
Yes. Even a lot of physically fit don't know how to wear and run in a plate carrier with a rifle, and how to do all the maneuvers necessary to just move with the gear.
@@matthewburrow3089lol wtf are u talking about. Its not complicated. Stop trying to make urself feel special. If ur physically fit (cardio), ull be fine in kit.
This fckn boot. Military get their asses whooped by regular dudes all the time
Honestly as a army infantry vet I think this perspective is pretty spot on. Ppl fantasize too much about SHTF.
@@THENXGABE Thanks bud. You know it’s usually only my fellow vets who understand combat and practicality who tend to be more realistic. It’s these civilians who were too chicken shit to serve who like to talk tough about what they’ll do and not do. I think it’s overcompensating. Thanks for your service!
I just discovered your channel and really appreciated your opinion's, on these matters! Long ago, I was a young Infantry soldier. I'm still trying to recover from my Open Heart Surgery, last April 1st. Have knee trouble, on top of everything else! I saw a T-shirt that said: Too old to fight! Too slow to run! But, I can still shoot! I don't want anything, like a Civil War scenario to happen! Because I don't want the very young, and the very old, to have to pay the price, for all of the unintended consequences, that would happen, should such a thing occur! Yes, there would be safety in numbers! I pray that cooler heads would prevail! Anyway, great video, and I look forward to more of your videos! From one old soldier, to another, please, take care of yourself!
@@markknivila8383 Thanks for your comment Mark!!! I really appreciate it. I wish more people had your mentality in this country. We’ll just know that I will stand and do the right thing no matter the cost. I have to put these type of videos out to give people realistic perspectives. God bless you sir and thank you for your service!
In a similar situation here, I'm an Army Vet, 62 years old now, have had several mini strokes over the years so health is not the greatest, can't bug out, currently caring for elderly family member, have protection, but only for my home in the event of an emergency which would most likely be people looting or seeking supplies from others. Wish I could find a group of people nearby to hook up with , but I don't see any! But I'm glad to have lived the life I did, but my heart just breaks for the way things are going on the world stage. Thanks to our Veterans, and the patriotic people of America ! May the Lord keep you safe! 🇺🇸
@@russpendergraft5057 May the Lord keep you safe as well!
My magic number was always double a combat load in 5.56. You just have to be prepared for the extra weight. How you choose to move is more important than what you choose to carry though. That was true during Katrina as well. Just my personal opinion.
I watched a Podcast of a fuy who ran a shelter in a South American country who got into a firefight with a local cartel. He said he shot 30 rounds in a 3 hour gunfight where he was pinned down and about same for the partner he had with him.
Lookup Don Alejo. 70 year old man took out 4 cartel members by himself using only hunting guns.
I choose budget because if I get killed, i don't want to give the enemy a significant advantage if I get scavenged.
@@Gabriel_the_Shemite lol I thought about the same thing and I don’t want to be an expensive loot crate lol
@@vlogmoor🤣
Not only that, but it hurts less if you have to dump it so you can live to fight another day or not get locked up. I can build a couple of cheap rifles for the price of 1 high end rig.
Best comment. Very thoughtful.
The real question is not how many rounds the Coalition Forces fired in Iraq and Afghanistan, is how many rounds the insurgents used to actually defeat their opponent. And firearms were not their main weapon. That is just a fact.
As prior military I have used M16A1 and A2. The M16's are good but I have put together better AR's with quality parts. I don't have full auto but it is of limited use most of the time and burns through lots of ammo too fast. That is one thing you do not want as a civilian without a helicopter or trucks dropping off more food , water and ammo that military have at their disposal.
Good points brought up in a local non-permissive (hostile) environment. What I mean to say is that if it is a SHTF for something like Katrina. If it is across the US, it becomes a much different situation.
Take Afghanistan for example. We had ISAF (International Security Assistance Force). This was comprised of US, UK, German, French, Spanish, Canadian, Australian and Local National (Afghan Military) forces. Afghanistan is roughly the size of Texas. Even with all those forces, the country was not able to be pacified or fully controlled. Now think how much harder it would be if you only had the United States Military in a Country ten times that size.
What the US Military is good at is logistics. Thus, they will pick certain points they can and will control. This means mainly larger cities leaving the smaller cities, towns and rural areas to control of either National Guard units and/or local police. The issue with this is that the National Guard troops and/or local police live in the community they would have to attempt to control. As such, many would start finding out really fast the best way to survive is to not tyrannize the community but assist in the defense and protection of it. Which means they would be more likely to help as those that may be against them know where they live and such.
This does mean that budget AR’s are good for many. As when the community starts working together, their skill set may not be towards any sort of combat. Thus, a rifle for defense if needed is optimal and that could be a budget option. Others though, may have the skill set towards that kind of role. Which means they should have the best equipment they can obtain. As their life will be more dependent on that equipment as will others within that community.
Now, I started out with a budget option. Just to keep up with the training I had already received. It worked great for that. When I started taking more advanced courses, I did find out that my budget option was less than optimal. Which is why I upgraded when I could. I still have a budget option to go out and train with. However, I also have a few set up that are far better for use in a non-permissive environment. As my skill set is more towards combat or defense of my community. Thus, I demand and expect the best performance/reliability out of my rifle.
TL:DR - Budget is great for most people. Those that can do so, should go for a better rifle when possible. As the Military even in a Martial Law situation will likely not be able to be in your area if you live in a small town or rural area.
Aero Precision rifles are affordable, but they are definitely a step above all the other brands that you mentioned. Their quality & QC is well above all those "entry-level" brands. Are there lemons out there? Sure, but I'd take an Aero any day over a PSA, Anderson, Bear Creek, Delton, or even a Spikes.
Still not as good as a IWI or Faxon AR around the same price point. I'm my opinion, aero precision is overrated.
You’re not wrong.
Aero lower + BCM upper is the way
Please explain how Aero precision is more reliable than the other budget rifles minus the QC issue?
@@universallaw8850 Well I own several Aero guns, to include a few that I asssembled myself or completed the lowers & added complete uppers to. Not a single one has given me an issue that wasn't mag-related. Even those were expected because the mags were older Thermold-types. All other mag types I used ran fine. I also own several or the other brands mentioned & the feel, fit & finish, as well as overall lack of malfunctions with the Aeros puts them in a category above the bottom tier guns mentioned IMHO. I also have several Spikes guns, & I don't necessarily even consider them "bottom-tier", but either way the Aero stuff is much nicer. Of course, your mileage may vary, but QC is a major component of ensuring reliability, is it not?
Most modern ARs are reliable and accurate enough to fit most needs. Yes some are better than others but at the end of the day it's knowing your tool , maintaining it, training with it, and knowing its strengths and weaknesses. The tool is just one part of the equation.
Brothers new to the game and tight on funds, GET that Psa or Bca and train with it. I managed to shoot my Bca barrel out and the groups were opening up after about 8k rounds. Now it’s got a sons of Liberty (BA) chf barrel and a Toolcraft bcg. I get to go proof it with a few hundred rounds tomorrow. That budget rifle will likely serve you just fine for as long as you ever need it, but keep in mind you can upgrade it as time goes by. Love you guys and stay safe. Thanks for the video brother!
@@kevinleben579 Anytime brother! Yes 8k through a bca is A LOT of rounds, and hats great advice about upgrading. That’s what makes ARs so great. You can drop in a bcg, etc. to make it better! God bless Kevin!
Talking about the burn down video’s the SMITH & Wesson M&P sport 2 went 800+ rounds, which was impressive
Better to have a budget gun than no gun at all.
Good job on the video and I hope your channel grows 👊
@@oathtaker2768 thank you Oath Keeper! God bless and please like and subscribe!
It's always nice to have some extras to share.
Buy low/mid, upgrade to good along the way while saving for top tier.
Also, I have an Aero BCG that's got a finish on it and it seems to shed carbon. Its tolerances and machining are some of the best I've ever seen.
Sliding that BCG into the JP upper for the first time I thought it wasn't going to fit but once it got going... zero slop.
I'd like to stress a point here: ammo. Sure having 'enough' is a good thing. I highly recommend getting something sealed with staked primers, low flash/temp stable powder, and an annealed case. There are commercial offerings that will satisfy that list but let's be real, government overruns/surplus is the way to go. Pick a good manufacture, make sure if it says '193' it *is* 193, and buy low, buy *a LOT* and store it well.
If you don't know why I listed all those above suggestions/requirements for my ammo spec, please ask and I'll do my best to explain.
Nice video. Thanks for the insight. Really good points for sure.
These are great points.
Let’s say a community decides to police their own streets because things have gone to crap.
Well, under martial law, as soon as as action happens in a neighborhood to any significant degree or a community is too overtly projecting force, that’s when professional forces will take control of the area. Patrolling with APCs and drones.
I’m a fan of the idea of a silent, suppressed subsonic weapon like an AR9 or .300 Blackout for defense in this scenario. If you can defend yourself without drawing attention, maybe you can avoid being disarmed or calling the wolves to your door.
I think the only major factor that could change this is if a “civil war” has international players. For instance, if NATO decided to back one side and BRICS backs another, then things could change dramatically and turn a domestic crisis into a full scale, more conventional civil war.
What up Vlog moor, love the content … you were one of the first TH-camrs I listen to when I first got into firearms during COVID. Glad to see you back on my feed. subbed.
@@Papasmurf300 Thanks a lot PAPASMURF!!! I do it for people like you. Glad I could provide value. More is on the way.
I won the giveaway?!? Did I read that correctly @vlogmoor
@@Papasmurf300 Sorry bud, I think I got hacked, I’m working on getting it fixed. Sooooo frustrating
I think “budget” encompasses a wide variety of things.
1. There are budget ARs which will suffer frequent malfunctions with low round counts.
2. There are budget ARs in which the QC is inconsistent, so they may experience frequent malfunctions with low round counts, or they may be perfectly fine.
3. You have budget ARs where you carefully calculated cost/benefit of various parts and ended up with an AR that will be adequate for extended hard use for a cheap price.
1 you should avoid, 2 you’re taking a risk, 3 is a bit more legwork but if you’re looking for a budget build IMO it’s what you should absolutely do.
You’re correct about realistically it doesn’t matter, but when it’s all the same price, there is no reason whatsoever to not hunt that good deal down and do your research to get a better rifle for the same cost.
We have a right to defend ourselves, our neighbors and our neighborhood, disarming the people is unconstitutional and after Katrina it’s unlawful.
Agreed.
I agree with your main point. I think it's important to delineate between budget and bargain bin ARs. if you get a S&W Sport (2) or some basic Palmetto model, you're generally fine, but you're right that it's important to put a few hundred rounds though the gun and zero it, just to make sure you don't have a rare lemon (but really, you should be training and doing that anyway).
Where I disagree with you is on the math of a firefight, especially the military statistic applying to post-collapse shootouts. it takes thousands of rounds per one hit for a military, because of a number of reasons not applicable to civilians. just think of how much ammo a SAW gunner expands in any engagement, and his primary job is never really to try and hit anyone. and every member of a squad has the ability to go full auto, bumping hundreds and thousands of rounds in total per firefight in the general direction of an enemy that's a mile away. and they do that because the military has an almost infinite supply of rifle rounds, as far as any grunt is concerned. you have crates of ammo moving with you with vehicles, if you're cut off from base resupply, you can call in a speedball drop. And last but not least, unless you're clearing houses, most of your shots are just to keep someone pinned down until air support or artillery gets them.
That is very very different from any SHTF scenario a civilian or a group of civilians will find themselves in. when you are the one giving yourself orders, and you can disengage at any moment and don't need to spray and keep someone pinned down for half 20 min straight, when you have limited ammo on you and back at wherever your base of operations/homestead is, and when most engagements are likely to occur within shorter distances and most parties have semi-auto only capability, and when rifles are your only primary means of doing damage to the enemy, I guarantee you it will take a lot less than thousands of rounds to get one shot on target.
Now that only further proves your point, you don't need a rifle capable of going through thousands of rounds in a single firefight, because you won't have or need to expand thousands of rounds. and if you're dumb enough to engage someone who can, then in most cases but the very few, it won't really matter how Gucci the rifle is, if the operator is a moron.
@Saint_Anger_71 If it is SHTF I don't think there will be any government round ups to worry about. But standing and fighting a prolonged firefight is not a good idea for survival. Shoot and break contact. Fire and maneuver out of area so you are not surrounded and taken out.
@Saint_Anger_71 I agree moving around is more dangerous particularly with dependents , but homes are not good cover from bullets so sand bags would have to be filled and placed for safety at window firing points and fire extinguishers ready.
@Saint_Anger_71 it's almost like you didn't read this guy's comment at all lol😂
@Saint_Anger_71Will all due respect, I’d seriously reevaluate you’re strategy. I usually don’t give this type of advice on my channel, but I would imagine you mean well and I can say from what I can see potentially happen, you may have to reconsider quite a few things.
guess I missed all the fun. can't see what you guys are replying to. but the replies seem sensible to me.
Thank you for this video. A channel by the name of Trex arms said you aren't 2A woth a cheap rifle. A person can arm their whole house for the price of a top shelf rifle. A lot of us work crazy hours and won't wear out ours rifles because we don't have time.
@@tattedandgatted You’re welcome! Funny you bring up that channel because they’re one of the reasons why so many Americans have become prissy about firearm ownership. They’re elite larpers over there and I highly suspect that all that “2A” rhetoric they’re talking about will go out of the window when accurate fire goes zipping past their heads.
Just an fyi, the 250 round stat was found to be mostly because of the people who intentionally shoot to miss. Soldiers who are afraid to kill (understandably) and shoot in the direction of the enemy without truly trying to kill the enemy. There’s also suppressant fire/shooting a large volley of rounds in order to cover someone or disperse the group advancing. So there are reasons for why that number is so high, but I don’t think it directly translates to an shtf scenario
@@rouchenelvann I highly doubt that the number of warning shots outnumbers the amount of actual shoot to kill shots in a combat zone. In addition, suppression fire is also intended to kill so trying to negate the numbers is invalid.
@@vlogmoor that’s erroneous as hell, smh, but sure.
There’s literally no way to state as fact that suppressor fire is intended to kill 🤦🏾♂️ what does that even mean? It’s so nebulous as to be pointless. You reference a stat without knowing what was considered, reframe my initial point into a strawman argument, then argue against a point you didn’t even know was part of the stat that you referenced. Great job in deterring a potential sub
@@rouchenelvann Just so you know, whenever we’re taught to enact suppression fire, it’s in the direction of the people who you’re inevitably trying to kill. You seem oblivious to how combat works. You don’t lay suppression fire in the air do you? You lay it in the direction of the enemy. If they don’t get down, they get shot. It’s simple. I really don’t need a subscription from a jackass. Go to another channel and argue with them.
In operation “Red Wings” footage you can see that a lot of rounds weren’t actually fired yet the results were still just a small poorly trained group of afghanis with a single machine gun were able to wipe most of a fire team of highly equipped and skilled SEALs with just surprise and high ground. I like to use that battle as what I think SHTF skirmishes and combat would end up being like
I have 4 loaded 556 AR mags with an additional 100rds of lose 556 rds and 2 loaded 10rd 12 gauge mags loaded with 3" 00 buck for my bull pup with an aditional 50 shells in my go pack, along with a small 3 man tent, sleeping bag, 20 bic lighters, 200 water purification tabs and straws, compass, small collapsible fly rod, collapsible pot for cooking, rolled up chef knife set, my wife has 2 loaded AR-10 mags for our .308, 90 lose .308rds, she has our winter coats, a pair of pants for both of us, 5 pairs of underwear, socks and thermals rolled up in her go bag, along with 90 protein meal replacement bars, I take her to the range every weekend to train with her AR-15, my AR-10 along with her Springfield hellcat 9mm edc, I have a glock 22 for edc, we also have a couple boxes of 40S&W and 9mm fmj's and each a spare edc mag in our bags, we've gone to the range and trained almost every weekend for the past 7 years, when we first started dating my wife was alreasy familiar with firearms, her father and brothers are avid hunters, she grew up deer and turkey hunting, shes just as good as me on her groups at the range, hopefully we'll last longer than some, especially since we train and both grew up hunting, my wife can field dress a deer better than most as long as I hang it for her 😅
I hope you never have to use those skills for a shtf situation, but sounds like you two are well prepared! God Speed!
@anthonyyoungen4709 thank you, I hope it never comes to that as well, we have a 2 year old son that I worry for with the way things in the world are heading at the moment, God Bless.
I have a budget AR with all of $800 invested into it and it has been a rock solid performer with almost a thousand rounds through it, and honestly, I overspent with adding Magpul furniture and a free-float rail on it because those things just aren't necessary. I dont baby it, but I dont try and melt it down either, and it has been 100% reliable.
Would I like to have a $3K SCAR or MCX ? Sure ! But, I gotta keep thing on this side of the reality check.
The Katrina gun confiscation went to the US Supreme Court, the decision was final and clear the govt, federal, state, local can not confiscate a lawfully possessed firearm in any case of a martial law event. This was a little publicized decision, most people that didn’t get their weapons back moved out of state or simply didn’t know.
Supreme Court rulings don't matter to fedgov. They do want they want, regardless of what the Supreme Court says. Just look at how the current admin regards SC rulings.
Great video man. I own a few Palmetto Rifles and honestly love them ived fired about 1000 rounds through one of them and so far have never had any issues I own a few other rifles from high end names and I have more issues with them and they are more pricey guns.. again great video
Thanks for your support! Exactly your experience is the same as many Americans with these rifles. Good to hear. Please like and subscribe!
Outstanding!! Nice presentation; well thought out with statistics to back up the statements!! Common sense that we all should listen to. Thank you!!!!
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Good take man. Subscribed
You would be surprised how many of the big company's have QC problems, and alot of AR manufacturers use a handful of company's for most parts like castings (uppers and lowers) but also BCGs and alot of small parts.then most affordable optics are made in China.
I would get a PSA premium upper on sale (16 to 20") with
good handguards, 2x quality milspec phosphate or fully chromed BGCs, other coatings are useless as in sure easy to clean but if they are not chrome properly on the inside don't bother but upgrade the extractor springs.
Pinned gas or front sight block and a quality gas tube.
Nearly all lowers are milspec so just get a decent one but buy good lower parts but get one without the FGC, then get a good FGC that has a nice trigger but one that is not drop in and is more like an enchanted milspec FGC that uses full power springs.
Also make sure you have a good buffer tube, buffer and spring.
The most important thing is to make sure the barrel is clocked. The gas system is effective and all parts are stacked properly and torqued properly.
The best advice for this is "school of the American rifle", I would also recommend using a borescope to checkout the barrel and inside the BCG
I would recommend a magnified prism optic (and a backup QD optic) a free-float rail and steel backup irons, and a spare bolt, as for a muzzle device a short but effective flashider standard A2 is cheap, as for stocks if your going with an 18 or 20 then an A2 stock as it can handle alot of abuse I would recommend using steel USGI mags with the latest followers and putting loose ammo o stripper clips with a few guides and spoons vacumme packed. Some oil, a small cleaning kit with a snake but also a take down rod incase you have a stuck cartridge.
A 20" barrel can reach out alot longer and if bayonettes are your thing then you have the option.
Budget AR10s the standard was mostly set by KAC and LMT so I don't know if I would trust a cheap AR10.
A decent 9mm semi auto that's reliable also.
If you need something short 5.56 and AR pistols are not great, 7.62x39 is more plentiful than .300 and I could only recommend 2 short AKs a 10 inch Zastava or a 12.2" Romanian Draco.
Can rivet in a side optic rail, and use a folding brace, with a magnified dot or optic your good out to 300 years in a small package.
If your "bugging out" then its a great idea to get a .308 rifle, if you can afford a semi auto that's decent get a bolt gun, I think the howa 1500 is a top quality rifle for the money.
Whatever 12g shotgun you like pump or semi with an extended tube and a set of chokes I cluding a rifled choke.
The most useful rifle will be a takedown 10/22
You can also get some very small reloading equipment.
Everything depends on your area and circumstances but what most people realy forget is essential medications and first aid supplies.
To put it bluntly if you are dependant on insulin your at the mercy of the government.
Stocking up on antibiotics, sedatives. Pain pills and other essential medications could save your life and the life of others not to mention the price someone would be willing to pay for a course of strong oral or injected antibiotics.
As for a buyout car I reccomend an older Toyota stick shift diesel as they last forever. Very reliable as gas will rubout first. You can use hydraulic oil, 2stroke oil. Engine oil, kerosine either with a heavy oil even cooking oil in the summer so it's very versatile.
If the electrical system goes down diesel engines don't need it so you can just bump start it.
Also if the rule of law does not apply then you can use supressors and unfinished ones are easy to get.
The idea of people as in 1 person surviving alone for a long period of time is almost fiction, you realy need a group.
I say go with what you are good with, I recommend having weapons hidden along with your preps as they will be taking them too. Good luck
I'd take a guy with a cheap rifle that's shot it a lot, over a guy with an expensive rifle thats been a safe queen.
Just saying.
The doctrine I subscribe to is avoidance at all cost if SHTF. If there are people on the road, wait for them pass. If people see me I tell them to leave us alone and head into the woods near by.
Easier said than done I know but it is the doctrine I live by when it comes to this.
You’re a smart man. I’d imagine you’d last longer than most. If it ever happens God forbid, may you have the lord’s protection
Me to nobody comes near me and I avoid people at all times even if it means taking a longer route
@@Darthdoodoo yeah. The I won’t fuck with you if you don’t fuck with me approach.
Cost has NO bearing on what is a good gun. All a firearm has to do is function, be accurate, & repeatable. There are $400.00 rifles that are just great. You can spend all the money on the bolt on do-dads, but they really dont help with functionality.
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Quality costs money. AR15s can absolutely be assembled incorrectly, and budget brands like PSA have a track record of doing just that.
Spend the little bit more for something like a BCM where the quality control is actually good so you can be more confident in having a properly made rifle.
I have a 14.5” BCM with a surefire war comp pinned and welded. I love that rifle. But, I’ll also recommend a PSA to a newcomer and say practice with it.
@@mindsetperformance5509 We need more gun owners like you around. Someone who can afford the higher grade weapons but still know enough to recommend the more affordable ones to blue collar folks. Salute.
So you consider Aero Precision and Spikes Tactical budget rifles? Hmm I must be misinformed. With all respect, just curious why you consider those budget rifles? I’ve seen some pretty expensive examples of both. Thanks
Very good points here, especially the aspect about this being 2024 and not 1776. Owning a KAC rifle doesn't change the fact civilians don't have the same logistic capabilities as the military industrial complex, and that many people are using preparedness as a way to justify fantasising about a scenario that they haven't thought about critically. Yes I own multiple high end rifles, but I understand exactly what you are illustrating here.
Good perspective, budget rifle is probably equal to or likely better than Khyber Pass rifle.
People over think this stuff. Anything that will go bang when needed is 99% of the time be fine. A proficient person with a 1022 is better than a novice with a $2000 AR.
@@JohnDoe-ud2cc I could not agree more.
IDK if I agree with everything you said, but atleast you're thinking. I do think what you say is relevant to many aspects of different possibilities. And, you're adding to the greater good of the conversation. Appreciate your thoughts.
@@IndependentArmz Thanks a lot! I’m considering doing a part 2 to cover a lot of points made in the comment section. Great dialog happening here.
The premium upper PSA with the FN barrel , Melonite gas tube with a G super block pinned to barrel it’s pretty
Bullet proof , at that point you’ll just need a good BCG
“A gun” is better than none at all.
@@Green_Leaf Agreed.
350 rounds including secondary weapons systems. For bugging out is ideal in my opinion. Anywhere from 200 to 250 for rifle. With 50 to 100 pistol ammo. Travel as light as possible. Still need to add water and food weight. Navigation material, shelter material, and hygiene including medical. All in all for an inexperienced person in the woods weigh your bag. Do not exceed 30 but closer to 20 pounds is more ideal. I've done training in mountains with loads of 20, 35, and 60 pounds. It is possible to do alot of weight, but only for someone with the right training, and in good shape only.
If your plan is to bug out, you should have supplies prestaged at you site(s) and along multiple routes to get there.
My thoughts...I have Gooche shit....I have PSA ....arrow...
Personally I would run any cheap AR as long as I swapped out the BCG ..A Great BCG as and A Average AR will be more than sufficient
One thing that beginner often don't comprehend, although actually it should be obvious; is that a 30 round mag of fmj ammo costs on the average of $ 15.oo to $ 18.oo..
Eighteen dollars per mag. × 7 mags equals $ 126 dollars .
Spend your money on ammo. !
What’s a BCG?
@@wfjr997 Bolt Carrier group
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@@wfjr997Bolt Carrier Group.
Very logical. Well worth listening too.
Refreshing advice. Agreed on all of it.
@@jamieblacksmith6935 Thanks a bunch Jamie, please like and subscribe!
The ruger and m&p sport are also very good budget rifles as well. I'm surprised you left those out.
I didn’t leave those out watch again.
Great video. Great group of commentators. Very informative and thought provoking. I'd love to hear about barrel length preference opinions and reasoning for that one go-to rifle?
@@atonsungod I appreciate it! I may actually make a video covering this topic.
The takeaway: Your rifle is just one of many tools at your disposal when your body and mind is the weapon.
@@paulis7319 Eeeexactly
After seeing this video I think I am leaning towards my Norinco AK 47 rifle instead of one of my Smith and Wesson sport rifles . Aso you cant beat a Glock pistol and a good 38 j-frame pocket revolver as a back up.
I’ll be going with my m70 ar15s are trash compared to the ak they might. Be more accurate but the ak is more dominant
As long as you have ammo to sustain it.
762x39 doesn't make sense anymore to stock up on
It's a great round but to expensive now
@@chrisbrown2627 No kidding.
@@Ray-vq2jc Good prices on Serbian and Bosnian ammo right now. Igman is one of the brands.
Just found your channel. Good points. Gotta watch your video on the Panzer Arms M4
@@LandseerNorth I appreciate the support. Please like and subscribe!
Great video. I’d like to mention that I think utilizing the military’s data of their average round-count to eliminate one enemy threat doesn’t really apply to what the prepared citizen might face here in the USA in my opinion.
You gotta think, first of all the theatre of where this metric comes from is large mountain ranges and deserts with sparse villages miles apart. Of course your gonna expend a lot of ammo when your enemy is 600 meters away. Not only that, but I feel like that metric also takes into consideration suppression. They have the budget to expend ammo like that for the purpose of suppression. We don’t.
I think a majority of the potential gun fighting scenarios a prepared citizen could encounter during a SHTF event would be self-defense distances (
Almost sold my m&p sport to get something nicer. It’s a comfortable ergonomic gun so I just changed out the hand guard got a decent red dot sight and a pair of pop up sights. Haven’t cleaned gun and shot it 3 times no feed issues even without cleaning gonna keep it. Same thing with the security 9 and a Taurus g3 was going to trade for a gloc but they work so don’t need to upgrade
@@successquotes233 Good man. Take it from me, who sold my Sport 2 in order to get my first BCM, you’re not missing out on anything. That Sport is one of the best rifles ever made for the money. You’re good to go. Please like and subscribe!
These are some great points
@@practicalcivilian3259 thanks buddy. My videos usually only resonate with people who use practicality and common sense. Hence why your username is what it is. Stay tough and prepare bud.
@@vlogmoor I would say the same but my viewers vary from smart to not so smart but I start to stay as practical as possible appreciate it though
Get a psa lower with whatever furniture you want on it. Then get a bcm blem upper. Less than 900. Chf cl barrel, quality bcg.
Concern with budgets is the qc. So you have to vet it. But bcm qc all there stuff. Bigger issue is durability/longevity/reliability. Accuracy is easy enough if you take the time to find the right ammo. Have extra mags. Have a good optic, something durable and can see out as far as you need it to to see targets that don't want to be seen, you're not seeing something camouflaged at 100yds with a red dot, possibly not with a 3x magnifier either. Back up irons or fixed irons. Sling and light. Then shoot/train.
I just think its crazy literally every guy thinks they are going to be a lone commando if SHTF happens. This is not reality and it only takes one bullet to end you. But you are absolutely right a budget AR is better than no AR at all!!! My point is you can have 10k rounds but if you get hit once it could be all over. They key would be to avoid all engagements.
@@austinbratton9973 Exactly!!! I make these videos for people like you who have common sense and can share to others who are maybe a bit too delusional. Keep up the level headed ness!
You are 100 % correct
I bought a del ton sport rifle years ago, it's seemed to be fairly decent
good info, sound rationale.
Been wanting a radical firearms lately, they any good for 400 bucks?
@@ctford27 My first question is, how much are you willing to spend after taxes?
@@vlogmoor well it's 6 percent sales tax here
@@ctford27 That’s about 25 bucks on top of 400 I meant how many hundreds are you willing to spend
@@vlogmoor I don't care to spend more for a good rifle, I just want a cheap beater rifle that will function properly
@@ctford27 Then I would grab a PSA blem lower and blem upper if you don’t think you can afford a S&W Sport.
Great points!
I would say that the lower doesn’t matter as much as the upper. So Anderson, PSA, Spike, and Aero would be perfectly acceptable, although I would argue the M4E1 is a lot beefier than a standard lower.
The upper/bolt is going to have so much pressure running through it. You can’t skimp on that because that is what will put you out of business. I would avoid BCA at all costs. Aero would be your minimum, although I hear they’ve been lacking in the QC department lately.
I really like this video I own a BCM ar15 and I know it's not a budget rifle but It makes my heart warm and fuzzy. But I don't mind budget rifles I started with a Radical and it was good. Just do a lot of training with what you have a gun is better than a stick.
@@hunter1028 I agree. My end of times AR is a BCM C8 SFW clone. Of course I’d also still rock my S&W sport 3 too if I had to. Like you said it’s about training and smarts. That’ll get most people through almost every situation
yes, they ARE, IF you have a silencer, trigger job, scope OPTION, night sights, 60 gr Nosler Partition softpoitns, 22lr conversion unit, 60 gr Aquila 22 subsonic ammo, night vision, armor and brains enough to stay hidden during daylight.
I own PSA rifles. They’re okay. I have more than one because “two is one and one is none” is a law of the universe. I have a police acquaintance who says that a Ruger 10/22 is more than adequate for home defense. He was initial on-scene officer for scores/maybe hundreds of shootings. Every time a 10/22 was involved the shooting was a fatality.
@@DCavalcade I believe this account 100%. I own a 10/22, and if I had to choose one rifle for total self reliance with no turning back, I’d choose the Ruger hands down. You can carry thousands of rounds on your persons, hunt, and defend against predators up to black bear. It’s a wonder weapon.
This video is needed for the community as well as those who are not in the know. Great job bro 💪🏽 keep debunking these delusional goofies out here.
@@navyvet886 Thanks so much bro! I appreciate it. It’s usually the vets who get it. The goofy larpers are the ones who typically don’t get it. Thanks for your service!
If you're shooting good .223 rounds instead of 5.56 rounds, like gold dots, fusion, critical defense, shit even 55gr fmj is hard hitting. That way lower pressure will help extend that life
I have an Olympic Arms Plinker Plus with a cast receiver and its more accurate and as reliable as my Rainier Arms. Would be my goto in a situation.
My choice would be a modular semiautomatic rifle that can chamber 5.56 and .308 such as the Desert Tech MDRX and Primary Weapons Systems UXR.
so true good job
Thank you,I have a new perspectives. You know what you're saying.
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If you live through your 3rd mag change there should be plenty of upgrades laying around.
A Winchester mod 70 won't fire as fast, but a 30.06 hits a bit harder than a .223 and can do it from a Lot further away. It's basically a refined Mauser 98k, solid as an anvil and utterly reliable. No bugging out, because I'm already well out in the country. I'll stand with my neighbors.
@@Gary-zq3pz You’re very luck then I’d say to be able to trust your neighbors and be secluded. Good stuff!
PSA is making some top end shit at budget prices. 900 to 1200
For $1,200 just get a BCM.
In a real SHTF against a military force there will be other people and governments arming combatants. There are always some group that wants the downfall of your opponent or wants the money.
Exactly
I don’t get that If the mindset is to always give up when confronted with the military, whats the point of having a weapon? Seems the talk should be more about how to come together as a community to protect your neighborhood from the military if the SHTF. The US armed population dwarves the US military.drones and bombs are not an option when you are trying to occupy an area. Besides the fallout from bombing your own citizens wouldn’t be good for moral of your cause… however being they control the media… that can make it dangerious
Cartels are doing that right now all over the country. Check out sheriffs in California talking about illegal grow operations and parts of entire counties being taken over. Also the current Oregon apartment complexes being taken over. There are more examples.
The purpose of any weapon is to give the bearer the opportunity to get a better one. Liberator pistol for example.
I don't know if Aero Precision is "budget." Complete upper receivers cost $500-900 alone. Sometimes you can get a blem or production overrun for $350-400. AP/Stag for me is mid tier.
So long as you have a rifle that works it's better than no rifle at all. I have very high end shit now but I started with a cheap DPMS with iron sights and a bunch of super cheap ammo. The most important thing is that you can hit what your are aiming at, the rifle is reliable, and you have ammo. After that it's all extra. I have a very high paying job now so I can afford the top shelf shit but that's irrelevant. You need at least 1000 rounds for your rifle and 1000 rounds for your handgun. Preferably you want alot of that pistol ammo to be defensive ammo. I also try to keep about 500 rounds of buckshot and like 200 slugs at minimum. Build it up over time and make sure that you get training. It's useless to have a firearm that you can not use proficiently.
Also the idea of bugging out is not viable unless you are a single man with no family in the area. Are you really going to leave your woman, children, pets, and friends all behind?
The other thing is that your average of ammo expended per kill is not talking about urban combat and gorilla tactics. That is a ridiculous point and the war in Ukraine has demonstrated that. War inside the US would be brutal and the casualty rate would be devastating.
Not that many rounds were fired with roof koreans though. Perhaps consider something a bit more long range in that case and a bit more precision. Also consider multiple concealable firearms instead of a large ar-15 that is visible unless you want that confiscated easily. Pistols were enough to deter many with roof koreans. However large firearms were also a deterrent.
Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006. Nice law to read about.
@@thereturn9320 Thanks for the comment. I have read about this law, and I understand that although this law is protected during martial law declared because of a natural disaster, there is no concrete evidence that they wouldn’t attempt to ignore the law during what they may label an “insurrection”. I do think they’re are too many gun owners to try this with overall but there have been plenty of Americans unconstitutionally disarmed due to red flag laws. So it’s still a possibility is all I’m saying.
Note: PSA is not cheap rifles rather PSA is a quality manufacturer that sells to public direct, thus prices is great
Great video brotha
Liked and subscribed
@@texaspatriot9159 Thanks so much brother! I do it for the patriots like you.