Will it START? V12 Supercharged 2 Stroke GM Detroit Dump Truck SITTING for YEARS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2023
- In this video, I find out if this old vintage Wabco Haulpack Dump Truck fitted with v12 Supercharged Detroit Diesel GM will run after being retired from the quarry and left sitting for many years. These big 2 stroke diesels were fitted to some of this early earthmoving equipment back in the day, this 12v71 GM totalling 852cu and 425hp at the flywheel. These supercharged 2 strokes diesel gm screaming jimmy engines were fitted to various males and model of trucks and heavy equipment across the world over a number of decades.
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Hello everyone, there are a lot of comments here and too many for me to reply to individually so I will provide this comment in response. Firstly, Thank you all for your support/ kind words/advice and sharing your views and stories about detroits/gms/wabcos. Given everyone wants to see Wally drive under its own power, I have decided to go back, wip that blown hydraulic hose off, get it fixed and see if I can get it driving. I can’t give you all an exact date on when this will happen other than hopefully within the next month or so. I’m not sure how the brakes will be but that will be a job to check after I refit the new hose and get back to the truck. Thanks again to everyone who commented, and I’ll do what I can to get Wally moving in the not to distant future and I’ll do another video on my journey. Best regards, Bruce.
Looking forward to it!
Thank you.
Fanfuckintastic!
Good onya Bruce, gotta save these old gals, they built western civilisation !!
Is there any chance at getting that truck to a museum or some group that can restore it?
100 years from now people will find old Detroit 2 strokes in a field. And get a battery and some fuel and be amazed they start.
They should put one in a time capsule, even in 500 years I bet the silly thing would crank for a minute then light off.
He's right you always check the rack of a Detroit before popping it off
There is a chance almost no one know how to run one anymore depending on when gas engines start to die, which would be really sad.
@@idkusername2795 idk how many hundreds of years that will take, but it's possible. Steam engines went out of fashion over a century ago, but most people still at least know what they are. Some still work on them/ run them as a hobby. Even with ev's getting more popular, the ice isn't going anywhere for big applications any time soon.
Hahah yea thell sure be amazed when it runs away and the key doesn't turn it off
no safety gears, no gloves, works in a polo shirt, no bullshit, what a legend.
Wot no risk assessment? Any elf n safety zealot would be having a heart attack watching him.
Okay TH-cam it looks like your algorithm is finally working. This is exactly what I i want to watch.
I use the Detroit Diesel marine versions. My favorite because they're the most reliable on the ocean. All mechanical, no sensors to fail. I've been running them since 1960.
Nice job getting it started.
@oceanmariner.... So absolutely true, of being the most reliable. There have been many, Many documented testimonies from mariners of all types and sizes (up to 3,500 hp), all over the world, throughout the decades... of how their GM / Detroit Diesels got them back to a safe haven of shoreline after developing "issue's... even after a rod exited out of the block, in a few cases!! THAT.... would NOT be happening with ANY.. 4 cycle.
Despite all the Ignorant "bad-mouthing" about them from the "4 cycle Only, crowd".... The incredible, undeniable and highly documented history of their reliability, is absolutely legendary.
It is also why the design lasted for 60+ years of production...including ongoing Gov't/military contracts, world wide - After, commercial production ceased (in 1995, due to our EPA) basically unchanged.
The 2 cycle GM Diesels (DD after April, 1965) rightfully hold the record for the longest production run of an unchanged engine platform, in the history of the diesel engine, and even of the gasoline engine, world-wide.
I agree, we had one come to are shop saying it had a miss, and was using oil for the last month. Always started though. We found it had through a rod and punched a hole in the side of the block. 8v92, no interference, He ran it for a Month!! NEVER KNEW IT!!! He hauled big boats up n down 95 from NY to Miami.
Bruce I watched them cut a mountain in half in the 70’s in West Virginia and they used Euclid dumps very similar to the one you just started and we would sit and watch them for hours, one day we got the bright idea to stick our thumbs out to try and get a ride and low and behold one stopped and we climbed up and he took us on his round for a couple of 11 & 12 year olds it was a ride of a life time. Still remember like it was yesterday and was surprised how smooth it road. That Detroit was singing and I Sir tip my hat to how careful and methodical you were getting her started and the look on your face when she fired up was priceless. Hope you come back and fix the hydro leak and drive it around a bit I just subscribed in case you do. Cheers from the US mate.
Watch Diesel Creek - he buys and starts old heavy equipment and gets them started some have not been run for 60 years . Nice job Bruce ! Look on your face when you got it running is priceless .
I reckon I'll follow this bloke around for a bit. He knows what he is doing, and does his thing without all the theatrics so many believe are necessary today. Appreciate the camera work as well. They clearly know what they are doing as well.
That engine is solid!!..the fact it started that quick without ether and didn’t even surge at all when it did tells you she’s definitely a runner and has lots of life left in it!..great engines those old detroits!!
Also helps that Bruce pre treated the fuel with a cleaning/dewatering agent before putting in some fresh diesel fuel. 😊
Great machine. Those 2 stroke Detroit engines hauled almost the entire world through the industrial and agricultural progress from basically the 1940's onwards, well into the 90's. A bit of a rare thing to see someone running one today for their main income machine. They are a bit inefficient since they convert most of the fuel energy into noise 😂😂 But if you wanted, you absolutely could still run one of these engines as an every day work machine and it certainly wouldn't be missing any power, and it'll be at least as reliable as the modern diesels. Definitely a testament to the original design and engineering that GM envisioned as their flagship workhorse diesel. And certainly a favorite among enthusiasts. My favorite modern diesel is the Duramax. Another GM invention, along with Isuzu's vast knowledge and experience with industrial diesel engines, they absolutely knocked it out of the park again. Even the first iteration, the LB7 from 2001 is an incredible engine once you've fixed a couple of the teething flaws and it easily goes 300k miles and up before needing attention inside the engine. Parts are readily available and inexpensive. The latest iteration, the L5P is just a ridiculously powerful engine that is way overbuilt so that its longevity takes precedence. With relatively little tinkering, the L5P can put out 50% more power without touching the internals, and is still strong enough to support nearly a doubling of its power with only mild upgrades. I'll go with Chevy or GMC 3/4 and 1 ton trucks every time if my only other options are Fords and RAMs... Nothing against the Ford 7.3 (I mean Navistar 7.3) or the Cummins 5.9, but the Cummins is basically installed in a rolling dumpster while Ford scammed many millions of dollars from hard working Americans when they knowingly sold trashcan engines from about 2004-2011 and pretended the trucks had no issues. It's only after 15 years of class action lawsuits against Ford that email communication between Ford executives and engineers revealed they knew all along they were selling broken engines, but did it anyway. Why anyone would trust their business or their bank account with a Ford product now that we know the truth is a mystery to me. To each their own. But in the information age, you have absolutely no excuse for being ignorant about a subject that affects you, and that goes double for any large purchase you make for yourself or your business.
I spent 6 years driving 75 ton wabco haulpacks in an open pit iron mine in the Upper peninsula of michigan in the usa in the 1970's
been a diesel mechanic all my life , cut myteeth on 2 stroke detroits. worked on everything from a 2-71 to 12v-92 twin turbo. best engine ever designed hands down. usa won two world wars ,transported hundreds ofmillions of people all around country for6decades. theyve pushed boats bulldozers trucks and just about any thing you could imagine. and now like everything else america had that was great our own government has found ways to dismantle. between our leadership and our plastic disposible quipment i am pretty sure they have made sure we wont wint the next war. good job youve saved classic, god bless you
Brilliant work! That thing is idling smoother than some new cars
What a great channel. The algorithm pushed this to me 8hrs after it was posted. High production value, well spoken by Bruce, good thumbnail/title, definitely set for growth and we’ll deserved. Good to see some Aussies in the heavy machinery TH-cam genre ! Stick with it
Thanks very much, great feedback. Best wishes to you Bruce.
This dump wants to live again. What a great video.
Great work Bruce 👍. Methodical and skilful as usual. Those 2stroke Detroits are not the most efficient or environmentally friendly of motors but reliable and simple. I’m sure they will outlast the electronic diesels by decades 👌
@paulcurrah7385.... Many of the 2 cycles, already Have, outlasted the "electronics".
Yep , spew out alot of pollution and are not fuel effecient
A lifetime of knowledge being put to work.
I'm blown away by how clean it was under the valve covers
That old Detroit looked AMAZING under the valve covers for how the exterior of the old truck looked.
Love the old two stroke screaming jimmy. It's the sound of my childhood. I grew up next to an old equipment yard. It seemed years ago everything had a Detroit in it.
Hello Bruce! I enjoyed the video! I was a Detroit Diesel Mechanic for 40 years. I worked on various Detroit Diesels 2-cycle and 4-cycle engines.This brings back memories. Thank you!
Nothing better than watching an old school guy work on an old school engine. You can tell he's definitely been around the block a few times on these 2 stroke Detroits.... Being a Detroit guy myself, the funniest comment he made was about the Detroit not leaking 🤣🤣🤣... As the old saying goes ...How can you tell if a Detroit has oil? Just look for the leaks
As soon as I knew he was called Bruce I knew the job was on. Bloody oath mate!
When I first started in the engine machine shop business over 40 years ago 2 2-stroke Detroits were king of the road and in heavy equipment. Nowadays you rarely see one. Recently done a set of 16 V 92 heads off of a boat on the Tennessee River.
Sr Bruce soy de Argentina y mecanico como usted y trabaje con esa Maravilla de GM y despues DETROIT series 53 Y 71 todos en maquinaria vial junto con la transmicion ALLISON.. Todo ýa no esta mas Ahora solo me queda el mas grato recuerdo de la Noblesa de esas maquinas y el Sonido de mis querdos GM..Y lo digo hasta hoy...NO EXISTE NI HABRA OTRO IGUAL
GRACIAS X EL VIDEO...LO SALUDO DESDE ..ZARATE..ARGENTINA..EDUARDO CENTURION......TENGO 83 ños....
Bless our old timers, full of knowledge you won’t find in a text book, pay attention kids you might learn something.
pretty sure textbooks are written by people with experience and knowledge
He forgot the oil though
This is some boomer cringe
@@rcman1023 I’m running out of, “it be like that sometimes” 😂 you’re gay
@@rcman1023 look at yourself 🤦♂️
Very impressive. And what impresses the most is when he was making the comment about putting some grease on the valve cover gasket so that it will be easier to remove for the next mechanic. Who thinks about the next one to work on it these days? I do and you do but not many anymore. You know what you are doing. Thx. Also in the USA, we have several names for the engine. Also a Detroit, 12/71, 12 cyl w/ 71 cubic inches per cylinder. GMC, Jimmy, Screamin Jimmy, 2 stroker... I'm sure there are many more names for it. I can still remember driving the 6/71 GMC cabover. It did the job but it was miserable compared to modern day big trucks. To this day you can still hear the screaming Jimmy's sometimes in a steel mill forklift. Good video and thank you.
Buzzin Dozen
What an absolute beast of a machine, hope it's saved and put back to some sort of use. 👍
I retired from where that truck was made and when I started there in 73 they still were making that model. That one actually might have been made before my time because the fuel tank was on the side. Congratulations for getting it started!
The most Australian intro ever. Good day, my names Bruce
Wish this guy was my grand father i figure I could hang out all day with him and learn a lot . Hope all is well for ya love your videos keep them conning . From Canada
Nice job mate.
I'm in Ohio,USA and have a cousin that works at Detroit Diesel in Canton,Oh.
I operated a Crash Crane on the Carrier USS Enterprise.
The NS-60 (Tilly) had a 671 Detroit Diesel. Loved the engine sound.
This video will make you a legend, Bruce! At about 53 minutes, I was thinking to myself, "Is he going to get it running?" Suspense to the end!!😂
WABCO is the acronym for the Westinghouse Air Brake Co. Who were manufacturers of heavy duty equipment for railroads and Construction.....
With a pair of vice grips & a ballpeen hammer, this man is a miracle worker in a small way. A thoroughly enjoyable video
Man Bruce is so gentle with this machine you would think he is digging up rare artifacts. Impessed with the respect and gentle touch he showed this old forgotten truck.
Technically is an artifact based on its age. Probably not too many left in the world that are capable of running.
Guys will just read the title and say "hell yeah"
Yessir
@@turtleguy420hello
Yep... did this.. soo interesting
I am in awe. Anyone with the courage to work on a Detroit in a light colored shirt, pull the valve covers no less, and come away as clean as you did must be a real professional! I have gotten more "grimey" than that just standing near one. Love it.
the smile on this mans face when it started is priceless! well done Bruce! from michigan
-I wanted to add as a side note I live 15 miles north of detroit where this bad was made, the engine at least. when you explained the vernacular of what to call it, it put a smile on my face. Detroit diesel!! die hards clearly
Hi Bruce,
Memories. I drove Wabco 50, 65 and 75 ton trucks at Iron Knob, South Australia in 1974/1975.
Congratulations on a job well done. 👍
wish i had an iron knob😏
@@iBeerus-same
V12 diesel and it's 2 stroke?? It's like priceless treasure lying around in rust!!
Good old wally lives again .They always sounded gutsy. An moved mountains.
hands down one of the coolest videos I've seen. I was supposed to load 7000 gallons of diesel fuel and I haven't yet because I'm parked on the side of the road in my rig watching this video.
Bakersfield California U.S.A
Haha people need that Diesel man! Wally the Wabco can wait!
@hgrunt100 10-4 haha 🍻
Id love to give you a hand 'unloading' that diesel fuel....Into my truck, a storage tank & a transfer tank! 😅😂⛽🛢️🚦🚧👍👌⚠️🚜🤷♂️🤔
That 7000 gal is like a half million bucks in California!? 👍👌⛽🛢️😉🤔
@@tdotw77 we'd both be singing the county blues
This will not be possible with today's equipment once it gets old.
100%. Which would have been abit more OK if the new stuff was actually cheap and affordable, but it's obviously not.
sounds like somebody is afraid of soldering
@@s_t_r_a_y_e_d huh?
@@s_t_r_a_y_e_d Not so much that but the complexity of everything else. There's too much to go wrong.
I hope you go through the trouble of fixing the hydraulic hose and just seeing if it will drive or not. Great methodical approach to getting this thing running. You don't give up very easily but, you probably know early on whether it's worth the effort or not. Keep it up, man!
Well done mate. Happy to see you took a lot more care than most. Don’t want to kill em after they have have been sleeping for so long. 😊
Well done Sir! I was in the US Navy and had the pleasure of working on and overhauling the Detroit Diesel 16V149TI engines. Good call on freeing up the fuel racks! It would have ran away for sure. Cheers!
Chris
It's guys like this that makes me think the Road Warrior really could happen.
It could, as long as the motors are from 79 backwards.
This was an awesome video, I’m amazed it actually started! You obviously have immense patience and many, many years of experience. Well done!
Bloody awesome mate. Was like watching the David Attenborough of the forgotten wild beasts of Aussie industry. These things need to be rescued and conserved for generations to come!! Thank you!!
what a quality man. Seriously has some class and smarts
Those engines were prevalent in the Pacific (P16) logging trucks on the west coast of Canada in the 70’s -90’s. We called them, “Screamin’ Jimmy’s”. Nice work that you did.
She lives!
Hello Bruce we had a R35 terex with a V12 in it and coming up out of the quarry if ya loaded the tail to heavy would ride a wheelie up the haul road my point being the thing was a animal
But our MSHA well they put a end to our old Euclid’s now we are running 777 Cats and 992’s we used to load with Dart loaders and before them were cable shovels electric shovels be safe make sure your racks are free no pun intended
Detroits are tough as coffin nails. Good to see it run.
I have always had a place in my heart for old iron. I love to see old iron putting in work even though it doesn't happen often. I enjoy seeing the old cab overs getting put back to work.
I'm about your age and been running Jimmy's since 13 years old. I like the V12 but I run Cats mostly but still have a 892. I enjoyed watching you and appreciate the care you took. Till then.
Compressed air in a fire extinguisher - brilliant.
When you added the injector cleaner and fresh fuel I hope you shook the truck back and forth a while to be sure it mixed well.
Lived in South East Queensland mid/late 90s and remember clambering over something like that when touring around but just can’t remember where it was. It was huge. Perhaps I was the last person to sit in the cab
Pretty deadpan until it fired up then Bruce sported a smile like a Cheshire cat! Great stuff mate.
Someone put this engine on a miata ASAP
Keep it in the truck, put the truck back to work or restore it and use it in earthmoving shows
It is truly incredible the ammount of work he went through to get this baby going just so he could pick your mom up for a date
Every guy named Bruce I've ever met in my life are all badass guys. My dad included!
Bruce Wayne included!
Wow. What you've done for that big enormous truck was amazing. Enjoyed watching it.
Bruce, as much as i find wally as a rare and unique vehilce to work on, i can always see and appreciate an experience and skilled individual such as yourself. Old school mechanics are far and few between now days and its fantastic to see someone doing stuff the old way, and with a little care. No comouter port to plug in the code reader on wally! Cheers, JB
This is now canon as a prequel to Mad Max.
Blokes who are passionate about sharing information are a rare but very important resource for future generations
My old man had a few of these in his quarry. Eventually he upgraded to 50 Ton Wabco units that were ex-army that were rated to 70 Tons which had no trouble carrying 100 Tons. Great video.
I'm amazed how clean that engine is inside
Respect for treating that engine with so much care.
Gotta say yes. I see guys in a shop with all the tools at thier disposal not take the time to clean around parts before removing them. A little care goes a long way. It was smart bring the fire extinguisher and compressor to blow stuff off, not sure why he didn't bring Mapp gas torch and non clorinated cleaner but he does nice work.
I would let him work on my stuff😊😊.
I spent 30+ years working on those. They always fired up no matter what. 😊
I drove one of those V12,s (Jimmy's) for about two years, They sound great, my boss told me off for babying it, he said they love being thrashed, magical sound. The only V12 supercharged that I will ever drive.
It's amazing how Detroits can sit for years and years. Then with just a little tlc and fiddling around with things like checking the injectors, they'll fire right up and run like a champ. Very cool!
It’s a real life Tonka Truck! I had a Tonka just like it in the 80’s.
Great video! I'm glad that someone is saving this old beast from it's rusty fate. There's nothing quite like the sound of a healthy Detroit two stroker throttling up! Especially the "Buzzin' Dozen"! By the way, these engines are not considered supercharged. The blowers on these Detroit two stroke engines are "Scavenger Blowers'. These engines have no means of natural aspiration so the scavenger blowers provide intake air at slightly above atmospheric pressure, and to scavenge the exhaust out of the combustion chambers.
Greetings from the US. I love the "getting old junk running" in part because I drive old junk. Keep up the good work.
I'm sure Wally Wabco really appreciated being run again. Seems like it was a well looked after machine.
It's amazing how anything with a motor regardless of if it's a little boy with his 5hp go cart or a 70 year old man getting and old diesel motor running again....... the smile that comes across thier faces young and old is universal 💯😎
In the meantime new trucks stop dead in their tracks from a bad sensor. Great stuff!
This is by far the best will it start I have ever watched, what a lovely machine. Superb
that means a lot to me thanks
That truck sounds really strong. Excellent job in getting it fired up. Definitely deserves to be driven and utilized in some capacity.
A man with WD40 can do everything.
By the looks of that valve train, there really might only be a 1000 some hours on it. Nice work 👏
We checked one of ours at 10k hours and it was spotless. But then we changed the oil and filters every 300 hours of operation. And if you want to see a really clean engine, wait til you have one of the fuel lines in the head break. Just don't be standing near the dipstick when that happens as it will fly better than 25'. Took 4 oil changes to get the smell out of the oil.
That old screamin' jimmy is ready to work.
Listen to her pur.
Diesel are so so durable... Detroit's and Cummins have such a distinctive engine idle
The consistency of the Engine....and the injectors soo pristine after all of these years 💥
Wherever you go around the world you'll no doubt come across some steel monster long forgotten with a trusty Detroit 2-stroke stuffed in its belly just begging to breath fire once more!
Really a pleasure to watch the care and patience taken to do a job the right way. Great video.
welcome back to life wally you beautiful truck, i hope you can purchase him in the future, we would love to see more of wally, maybe he will he his road legs back in a future video.
I feel like this is my work truck every monday morning in the winter.
Exciting!! This man really knows big trucks and big engines!!
Bruce, I have no idea how you come across this old iron but hell I’m pleased you do as I love seeing them bought back to life. I’d love it if these old trucks could speak and tell the story of there work life’s, I bet it would be a bloody ripper yarn. As always, well saved, another great video
"back when they made stuff to last"- i couldn't have said it better Bruce. Todays equipment fails in comparison to those old machines-
All my respect goes to this old Bruce still able to do the job as good as any. An actual will it start video with care taken not to hurt anything. I hope at least the engine gets a new life, there must be something out there that could use it rather than scrapping it for the metal.
My dad had a 69 Kenworth cab over model diesel with an 8V71. My dad said he always wanted a "Detroit Diesel" because he liked how it cackled. I remember when I was around 12 years old a few times when the cab was up as it seemed those were the only times that Detroit would just take off screaming out of control when my dad started it. The first time when the cab was pumped forward I stood behind the passenger tire and frame. My dad started it and it screamed out of control, I freaked out watching my dad trying to reach the "butterfly valve but couldn't at first, he looked around frantically and spotted a piece of wood which looked like a two by two piece of wood and picked it up and reached with the piece of wood and flicked the "butterfly valve" which shut the engine down almost immediately.
The second time it happened I was. standing in the exact same spot only this time it was a skinny tall very white skinned toothless dude that always had a filterless Palmal cigarette hanging out the side of his mouth my dad hired to drive. This time he started the engine but yet again it ran away. After he turned the key it stsrted and the engine ran away again. He jumped away from the tilted cab and all I saw was a very tall super white toothless old guy named Fred that looked like he was ghost with a very white face and a look of fearful death is his eyes. That scared me yet again, I'll never forget that guys face or how scared I was but I'll always love that 8V71 cackle sound too. Thank you sir for bringing that memory back to my mind, I salute you sir!
Hi Bruce this is great. I love playing with these abandoned earthmovers. Your game putting supercharged in the title, I cop lots over doing that😅😅. All the very best to you mate and take care
Yep its a blower & 2 stroke diesels wont run without it. Gotta get the exhaust gases out somehow.
Thanks Steve, yes your right about that (I agree with moe’s comment in reply) I hope the wedding plan is well underway and going as smoothly as possible! Bruce
It’s all going good thank you mate yes. Stressful but good
@@moe2470i was just gonna say that haha... I'm Aussie too
I was expecting that bloody snake to pop out somewhere
this old man is a superman
Man demonstrates the many, many uses of Knipex Alligator pliers here..damn fine pliers...