JT I'm 72 years old and I still get that smile on my face when the sound of that first start happens. Doesn't matter tractor or truck,. newly rebuilt or old locked up.. I have an imported Massy with the Perkins engine in it that I bought new in 1987. Because of my job it sat for 12 years and was locked up. It was my first project when I retired. Was a sweet sound when she popped off. Lessen learned "Don't Give up "
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 to prime the fuel system get a assistant to hold a air line in the fuel fill opening on the tank with a shop rag to seal it & pump air into the fuel tank to push the fuel through the filter / system while you crank the engine over until it starts . You can also put a airline adapter and short hose on the fuel tank to pump a little bit of air just enough to pressurize the tank to move the fuel through the system if you don't have a assistant available , if you do that leave the filler cap on to keep fuel from blowing out .
Massey Birdguson you were the luckiest person that weekend all the more power to you. Next thing you know, you’ll have enough equipment that you will have a tractor for every implement. 👍
I remember my Uncles having one late 70s early 80s that had a cat they put a hole in the block and the neighbor stitched the block back together in the field with a generac welder and a torch they finished using it and was replaced think it was an 1804 than they got a 4840 and a 4900 but them had Cummins 903 and Detroit 60 the Cats didn't appreciate the fuel pump being turned up
@@halwilliams1682 they had 4840 and a 4880 one I thought was a Detroit I think the other was a Cummins but the 1800 was definitely a cat that blew a hole in the block
@@halwilliams1682 Hall you where correct it was an 1805 they didn't like that one but every one the had always had the fuel pump turned up they originally wanted a Steiger but the what was to long so the went Massey they where great tractors could have about 100 foot of implements behind them and they'd just go same with chisel plowing
Starting to look like a Massey only farm. Next thing will be an 860 combine. Looks like a decent old tractor that needs a little TLC. Another Great Video. Thanks for taking us along on the adventure. Have a good weekend.
@@jtsbarnngrill6873looked like a birds nest. They will have to find another home! Looked like another one inside the air cleaner. Fluffy might check on that for you!
Incredible! Another "Old Soul" saved from the Brink of Death 💀. Hopefully we'll see it working this spring. It would be cool if you could get one of your friends and have the 1800 and the 1805 working side by side for one video. What a Sight that would be! Just a thought, get every fuel and oil additive you trust and pour in that tractor. Then start it and let it run for 30 minutes or so once a week while you make it ready to go back to work. That way, it's first time back to work won't be a "Shock" and put to much stress on anything. Young Man, you make me look forward to Spring 🌱. Stay Safe and God Bless 🙏👍🇺🇲🚜
"Massey Kardashian" Lol !!!🤣 She runs sweet for a tractor that hasn't run for a long time! Well, done JT! That tractor is pretty straight & definitely worth saving!
Excellent video JT :) also would get for Massey Ferguson 1800 new oil filter, Air Filter, Fuel filters, some GM Automatic Transmission fluid 200 ml in fuel tank run thru so lube in injection pump, also injectors to and whole ! Plus get grey bottle of STP Total Treatment fuel injection and carb cleaner in fuel tank to ! Plus nickname it After Life because come back life when fixing up and do more fix too ! Plus take starter out get cleaned up and rebuild too totally new it save from sticking and run flywheel too! Electrical fix also gauges you be all set running in feilds! Yes tire lots beef on them ! Hopefully see dig more to soon and repairs too in future videos too! You did super well on this so far and not giving up!
Back in 1983 my father and I went to an auction where the farmer was selling out due his health issues. He bought all his tractors new. I got a Massey 1100 diesel for 1600 dollars. He had a couple more super slick ones that sold really cheap. One was a MF1805 with really low hours and duals that sold for 4000 dollars, and a equally nice 1105 low hours for 4000 dollars. You have remember it was during the farm crisis. There wasn’t much money moving around. I remember my father regretting that he didn’t buy the 1105. I was getting 4-4.50 per bushel for soybeans back then, so no one was really getting rich. If I knew then what I know today 40 years later, I wouldn’t have never wasted my money on grain farming. Live and learn!
@@BriggsStratton11 we had registered Santa Gertrudis cattle and hay and soybeans back then, but I thought I could make it work on the grain side when my dad had a stroke and I had to take over his operation at 14 until I graduated high school, when he totally recovered. I left a lot of sweat and effort in the eighties trying to make it work. I took over the farming totally and purchased a 120 hp Tractor and a combine and was strapped with the bean prices being so low and trying to pay for the equipment at that age. The drought of 88 pretty much killed my operation for a few years until I got a new foot hold in 96. I was a career field mechanic, and I farmed and ran cattle on the side. I have failed more times than I have succeeded, and have adjusted my operation quite a few times due to market conditions. It’s been something else. And now 40 years later I’m almost out of business again after two years of extreme drought and the lack of forage, and the heat making my herd abort and stringing out my calving windows and making them skip entirely. I’m not sure if I would do any of it again. A lot of cash, sweat and dreams dashed.
Well done! Back in the day I had nothing but good luck with the Cat "throw away V8s", both the 3160 and 3208 in the old Steigers and White 4-180. Congratulations on your diagnostic skills and "stic ktoitiveness".
I think the trick with those old Cats is to not overload them. They run fast and the rod bearings don't seem to hold up if pushed too hard. I never pull mine over about 2500 rpm and keep the load reasonable. It's only a couple hundred HP.
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 yep....you got it JT. The Cat only has 3 gallon of oil in it vs 5 gallons on my Case that is half as much HP. The Case runs almost 1000 rpm slower. Oil cools the engine.
Hey JT, one thing that would’ve worked was a block heater, 2) if you don’t have a block heater, drain out, antifreeze into a steel bucket and use it large propane, torch, and heat up antifreezeto about 100°F and put in half the bucket then heat up the rest to about 150 to 180°F and put the rest in that way you have a warmer engine that will probably start! 3) you can also heat up the oil to about 180° and pour that through the engine into the Oil Pan? That’s the only way I know to heat up an engine, or put a block heater in it and let it heat up for six hours or so, and then it would probably start!
We had a cat just like that on the farm in the sixties, her name coincidentally was Fluffy. You are doing a good job fixing that big Fergie, I’ll bet that could pull a few furrows. All it needs is a new drivers seat and it will be ready to get back to work. all the best from England .ps call the tractor “ Big Fluffy.” It’s a darling.
JT When I was in high school I worked on a farm with A 1800 on it. I put a lot of hours in it and when you change the fuel filter all you did was take the bleeder cap off and crank the engine over until fuel came squirting out. It was good to hear that engine run.
I'm glad you didn't give up I love it when people rescue old equipment and get them going again the older equipment is so much better than most things they make today and one particular engines that I absolutely love are Detroit diesel engines nothing sounds better than a Detroit and the older Detroit diesel engines are my favorite engines to hear running I look forward to more of your videos I'm just starting to follow you. Keep up the rescue of these classic equipment
The motor was originally used in trucks from late 70to80s .. 8000series Ford's 2 and 3 axel day cab stuff/ dumps , flatbed dumps , city services, extremely reliable But when you say CAT parts or filters or oils your wallet is going to ignite . Tractor supply houses help some ..
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 the only thing i havent been able to get working is the P it engages for a brief second then notjing.. oh and the differential switch is stuck.. waiting on the repair manuals for it..
Wow that thing runs excellent! You would never guess it had been sitting for 20 years. That taking a while to shut off is normal for 3100 series Caterpillars, its due to where the fuel shut off is located. My 2255 with a 3150 does the same thing
The fat CAT with those big boots on it or furgy big boots lol lol u got there in the end well done needs something to do would most likely clean up the smoke or advance the pump a tiny bit would also work be looking forward to that project for sure ...
Have you ever heard of anybody using WD-40 for starting fluid this old man told me to use in centimeter because it is a oil and it will not wash your cylinders
I have, actually used to use it in snowmobiles but it seems like it doesn’t work nearly as good as it used to. Could be less flammable than it was before
Man you really can't kill a Massey. Such an awesome machine.
JT I'm 72 years old and I still get that smile on my face when the sound of that first start happens. Doesn't matter tractor or truck,. newly rebuilt or old locked up.. I have an imported Massy with the Perkins engine in it that I bought new in 1987. Because of my job it sat for 12 years and was locked up. It was my first project when I retired. Was a sweet sound when she popped off. Lessen learned "Don't Give up "
Right on! Persistence pays!
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 to prime the fuel system get a assistant to hold a air line in the fuel fill opening on the tank with a shop rag to seal it & pump air into the fuel tank to push the fuel through the filter / system while you crank the engine over until it starts .
You can also put a airline adapter and short hose on the fuel tank to pump a little bit of air just enough to pressurize the tank to move the fuel through the system if you don't have a assistant available , if you do that leave the filler cap on to keep fuel from blowing out .
Never gets old!!
@@craigalston2208yes put air in the fuel tank
The Perkins V type configuration was nothing to brag about from DAY ONE at all !
Massey Birdguson you were the luckiest person that weekend all the more power to you. Next thing you know, you’ll have enough equipment that you will have a tractor for every implement. 👍
I have a lot of HP per Acre around here
This guy deserves more subs!
Thanks 😉
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 I really enjoy your videos and I am glad I found this channel! Keep up the good work.
Bird Ferguson?
Bird Gurglesome!! 😅
Call it “Bird Ferguson”!
Hoodie started out clean but at the end when the tractor started was full of grime.
That’s usually how it goes for me 😆
great video you got lucky with the air intake off but nothing you cant handel l will be watchin!!!!!!
Thanks 👍
Well done JT looks like red spray is coming out again
I need to restock 😆
Well done JT!! 👋👋 You brought this old 1800 back to life.... What emotion when I heard the CAT roar!! Thank you again for giving us all this
Glad you enjoyed it!
I remember my Uncles having one late 70s early 80s that had a cat they put a hole in the block and the neighbor stitched the block back together in the field with a generac welder and a torch they finished using it and was replaced think it was an 1804 than they got a 4840 and a 4900 but them had Cummins 903 and Detroit 60 the Cats didn't appreciate the fuel pump being turned up
The 4000 series had the 903 V-8 Cummins. The series after the 1800 was 1805.
@@halwilliams1682 they had 4840 and a 4880 one I thought was a Detroit I think the other was a Cummins but the 1800 was definitely a cat that blew a hole in the block
@@halwilliams1682 Hall you where correct it was an 1805 they didn't like that one but every one the had always had the fuel pump turned up they originally wanted a Steiger but the what was to long so the went Massey they where great tractors could have about 100 foot of implements behind them and they'd just go same with chisel plowing
Starting to look like a Massey only farm. Next thing will be an 860 combine. Looks like a decent old tractor that needs a little TLC. Another Great Video. Thanks for taking us along on the adventure. Have a good weekend.
Thanks! You as well!
I got no gas in it give it some gogo juice😊
I love how the nest flew out the exhaust
“You mess with the bull…” lol! 😂 Loved the mass ejection upon starting! 👍🏻
😆😆😆
That had a lot of stuff in that big rotted muffler lol
@@jtsbarnngrill6873looked like a birds nest. They will have to find another home! Looked like another one inside the air cleaner. Fluffy might check on that for you!
Mass ejaculation from the bulls nuts 😂
You my friend are either the luckiest bastard I've ever seen or just that damn good. Now on to the fun part fixing everything
Maybe a little of both 😉😆
Incredible! Another "Old Soul" saved from the Brink of Death 💀. Hopefully we'll see it working this spring. It would be cool if you could get one of your friends and have the 1800 and the 1805 working side by side for one video. What a Sight that would be! Just a thought, get every fuel and oil additive you trust and pour in that tractor. Then start it and let it run for 30 minutes or so once a week while you make it ready to go back to work. That way, it's first time back to work won't be a "Shock" and put to much stress on anything. Young Man, you make me look forward to Spring 🌱. Stay Safe and God Bless 🙏👍🇺🇲🚜
I like that idea! I’d love to see them both running together!
"Massey Kardashian" Lol !!!🤣 She runs sweet for a tractor that hasn't run for a long time! Well, done JT! That tractor is pretty straight & definitely worth saving!
Right on! Thanks!
You know. A lot of that metal is still in really good shape. So excited! Nice job!
Thanks!
That tractor wrecker is getting some business!
Right! It’s good to have friends like that!
@@jtsbarnngrill6873. I’ve never seen anything like this before. Quite unique.
Well done JT !
I suppose you could call this one "Thurd Feguson" ? 🤣
I could! 😆
Thank's for saving the old iron, the world should thank you!
Love seeing these old machines being brought back to life rather than being dragged into the scrap yard, well done sir.
Thank you!
Me too
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 _Mean Machine!_ Looks and sounds fantastic - be perfect if it was top notch mechanically but still looking exactly as it does now.
MF 4wds became mconnel mark, then agco-star, then challenger mt9x5, now discontinued...
More omf, You need higher starter speed.
YOU FILL THE FUEL FILTER ! when changinging it , it should pick it up after that
My goodness JT , job well done . Made your day and everyone else that watched it happen .
I hope so!
I've had several 3126 cats that didn't have a hand pump, but for about 400 dollars cat will sell you one to put on them!
I remember pulling a bigger on on top of that Moffat it will give you more power because you Two pipes going into it Six inche out top would help
That’s quite the massive Ferguson. Good job breathing new life into it. Will be a fun project, I’m sure!
Indeed! Now to start rounding up parts lol
You’re going to need a bigger shed. lol Love the old Massey coming back to life.
Excellent video JT :) also would get for Massey Ferguson 1800 new oil filter, Air Filter, Fuel filters, some GM Automatic Transmission fluid 200 ml in fuel tank run thru so lube in injection pump, also injectors to and whole ! Plus get grey bottle of STP Total Treatment fuel injection and carb cleaner in fuel tank to ! Plus nickname it After Life because come back life when fixing up and do more fix too ! Plus take starter out get cleaned up and rebuild too totally new it save from sticking and run flywheel too! Electrical fix also gauges you be all set running in feilds! Yes tire lots beef on them ! Hopefully see dig more to soon and repairs too in future videos too! You did super well on this so far and not giving up!
Thanks! Got a long way to go but she’ll be good in the end!
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 welcome JT :)
my legs hurt thinking of you go up and down that beast. a remote starter would save alot of that. great job of not giving up tho!
Back in 1983 my father and I went to an auction where the farmer was selling out due his health issues. He bought all his tractors new. I got a Massey 1100 diesel for 1600 dollars. He had a couple more super slick ones that sold really cheap. One was a MF1805 with really low hours and duals that sold for 4000 dollars, and a equally nice 1105 low hours for 4000 dollars. You have remember it was during the farm crisis. There wasn’t much money moving around. I remember my father regretting that he didn’t buy the 1105. I was getting 4-4.50 per bushel for soybeans back then, so no one was really getting rich. If I knew then what I know today 40 years later, I wouldn’t have never wasted my money on grain farming. Live and learn!
What would you have farmed instead? Out of curiosity
@@BriggsStratton11 we had registered Santa Gertrudis cattle and hay and soybeans back then, but I thought I could make it work on the grain side when my dad had a stroke and I had to take over his operation at 14 until I graduated high school, when he totally recovered. I left a lot of sweat and effort in the eighties trying to make it work. I took over the farming totally and purchased a 120 hp Tractor and a combine and was strapped with the bean prices being so low and trying to pay for the equipment at that age. The drought of 88 pretty much killed my operation for a few years until I got a new foot hold in 96. I was a career field mechanic, and I farmed and ran cattle on the side. I have failed more times than I have succeeded, and have adjusted my operation quite a few times due to market conditions. It’s been something else. And now 40 years later I’m almost out of business again after two years of extreme drought and the lack of forage, and the heat making my herd abort and stringing out my calving windows and making them skip entirely. I’m not sure if I would do any of it again. A lot of cash, sweat and dreams dashed.
@@LukeLong-oi4uc Let's hope the next 40 years are much better and easier! Have a good day
@@LukeLong-oi4uc thats a crazy story man
Tye easiest way to make a small fortune in farming is to start out with a big one.
I would name it Ole Rip, after Rip Van Winkle sleeping for 20 years
Sometimes its the bettery gulty of bad power to run The engine , bute the starter ,bad conection of cables
I’m going with the obvious….”Scrappy Ferguson”
That fits!
Lovely sound. Engine sounds remarkably sweet 👍👍
Thank you J T . Love your videos. M F old tractors the best ever . Thanks bud
Glad you like them!
A PIPE WRENCH IS FOR PIPES
NOT because you can put a pipe on wrench
I understand that. 🤦🏻♂️. It was just a joke.
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 Please, never explain it to them. It's more fun that way.
Well done! Back in the day I had nothing but good luck with the Cat "throw away V8s", both the 3160 and 3208 in the old Steigers and White 4-180. Congratulations on your diagnostic skills and "stic
ktoitiveness".
I think the trick with those old Cats is to not overload them. They run fast and the rod bearings don't seem to hold up if pushed too hard. I never pull mine over about 2500 rpm and keep the load reasonable. It's only a couple hundred HP.
Thanks!
These motors have been good to me, but I don’t work the pi$$ out of them either lol
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 yep....you got it JT. The Cat only has 3 gallon of oil in it vs 5 gallons on my Case that is half as much HP. The Case runs almost 1000 rpm slower. Oil cools the engine.
Bird Ferguson the air filter housing is full of bird nest.
I like that! 😆
I wouldn't pait it.i think it looks great. If it was in Ireland it would be rotten
Lol, Merthyr should be her name, with hips like that. 😂
Hey JT, one thing that would’ve worked was a block heater, 2) if you don’t have a block heater, drain out, antifreeze into a steel bucket and use it large propane, torch, and heat up antifreezeto about 100°F and put in half the bucket then heat up the rest to about 150 to 180°F and put the rest in that way you have a warmer engine that will probably start!
3) you can also heat up the oil to about 180° and pour that through the engine into the Oil Pan?
That’s the only way I know to heat up an engine, or put a block heater in it and let it heat up for six hours or so, and then it would probably start!
Right on
Nice job. I vote "Trashy Ferguson "
needs big turbo intercooler set up,another interesting version of the 3208
I used to drive one of these in Ireland, hard on the scear tubes.
Another good score JT. It's nice to see Fluffy back on the job.
You got that right!
We had a cat just like that on the farm in the sixties, her name coincidentally was Fluffy. You are doing a good job fixing that big Fergie, I’ll bet that could pull a few furrows. All it needs is a new drivers seat and it will be ready to get back to work. all the best from England .ps call the tractor “ Big Fluffy.” It’s a darling.
We were row crop farmers and had a cat that loved to ride on the tractor as we picked
Way to go JT ! You got it running !
Back to life ! Love it !!
I'm picking a stuck valve stopping it turning all the way over - easy fix
Although that would be probable, I checked all the valves when I had the covers off. They are all free
When it comes to getting these old tractors running that others have given up on your the man!
Thanks! Appreciate that!
Looks like she’s set up to pull scrapers…
YEEHAW!!! that was super Well done JT looking forward to the rest of the project! r
Congrats to you sir! Glad to see it fired up.
Took her a minute to pick up that last cylinder but man she smoothed right out
REALLY enjoy watching your channel, looking forward to tillage and planting season.
Awesome, thank you!
That's look like a cat 3208 !
JT When I was in high school I worked on a farm with A 1800 on it. I put a lot of hours in it and when you change the fuel filter all you did was take the bleeder cap off and crank the engine over until fuel came squirting out. It was good to hear that engine run.
I'm glad you didn't give up I love it when people rescue old equipment and get them going again the older equipment is so much better than most things they make today and one particular engines that I absolutely love are Detroit diesel engines nothing sounds better than a Detroit and the older Detroit diesel engines are my favorite engines to hear running I look forward to more of your videos I'm just starting to follow you. Keep up the rescue of these classic equipment
Thanks! That’s my plan, glad to have you along!
Massey Kardashian...that's it!
Massey Ferguson 1800 Production
Manufacturer: Massey Ferguson
Factory: Matsuyama, Japan
Years Built: 1971 - 1974
Massey Ferguson 1800 Engine
Caterpillar 3160, diesel, 8-cylinder, liquid-cooled, 636 ci [10.4 L]
Power: 59 hp [44.0 kW]
Drawbar: 171.37 hp [127.8 kW]
Bore: 4.50×5.00 inches [114 x 127 mm]
Air Cleaner: dry
Compression: 16.5:1
Rated RPM: 2800
Starter volts: 12
The motor was originally used in trucks from late 70to80s .. 8000series Ford's 2 and 3 axel day cab stuff/ dumps , flatbed dumps , city services, extremely reliable But when you say CAT parts or filters or oils your wallet is going to ignite . Tractor supply houses help some ..
Very nice JT. Be a great set of resto videos. I look forward to the 1800. Thank you for saving that tractor. I do not care much for the newer stuff.
Right on
Another Mother Ferguson woken up. Congratulations!
Yes! Thank you!
Original price $21,100
Now get the tractor ready to work
i just picked up an 1100.. going to be my winter project..
nice!
@@jtsbarnngrill6873 the only thing i havent been able to get working is the P it engages for a brief second then notjing.. oh and the differential switch is stuck.. waiting on the repair manuals for it..
the name should be --> MF Miracle Find, Mr. Freak, or My Fix. Motor Fixed, or MoFi, M'Feces
super JT Its cool this is papy ferguson
I like that!
JT, name her Crazy Red! Afterwards, she runs and sounds great. next fix the power steering. Fluffy approved..
On the search for the steering pieces I need!
its a kitty cat you cannt kill it
Wow that thing runs excellent! You would never guess it had been sitting for 20 years. That taking a while to shut off is normal for 3100 series Caterpillars, its due to where the fuel shut off is located. My 2255 with a 3150 does the same thing
Right on. Good to know, figured it was just sticking
Massey Kardashian....😂😂👌
Good Morning J T, Hey I'm fully convinced that you Sir, are the TRACTOR GURU .😊 And Fluffy was there for Moral support 😅
Thanks 👍. Couldn’t do it without her lol
👏🫳🍿👌🇺🇸🍻
Good video im glad she came to Life it won't be long and you will have another good tractor.
I hope so!
Another nice rebuild coming.
Ha
Old massey's never die .
They just get better lookin.
Bingo!
The fat CAT with those big boots on it or furgy big boots lol lol u got there in the end well done needs something to do would most likely clean up the smoke or advance the pump a tiny bit would also work be looking forward to that project for sure ...
Cool , greetings from Denmark
Fantastic! Had my doubts but you prevailed! I like seeing old iron going again.
I almost threw in the towel on that one lol
Metalwork looks to be pretty solid. Scrap the block and replace it with a Cummins 6BT and a fat turbo
Well, that MF will be able to pull that big grain cart that is a comin;!!!!!!
Cheers.
great you got that old girl running and she sounds good too woo hoo for you.
28:09 Mouse eviction .
Sweet! Can't wait to watch you transform it
CAT motor i den traktorn
Nasty Ferguson
that is one bad MF
A couple soup cans and 2 hose clamps will fix the muffler. AL B.
One trick is to run 24v to the starter and 12v to the rest of the electrics. Ist a bit of a pain to set up but spins over so much faster.
great job man didnt think if would run best of luck with her thanks again for the videos. matt ireland.
Thanks 👍
thurd fergusen
main nice work
3208 cat--cool
Just a thought but maybe that starter is on its way out.
Glad to see another old tractor saved
I agree. That starter is tired.
Put new leads on first, there,ll be resistance everywhere@@jtsbarnngrill6873
Give it a tow.
Turd Junior???
Have you ever heard of anybody using WD-40 for starting fluid this old man told me to use in centimeter because it is a oil and it will not wash your cylinders
I have, actually used to use it in snowmobiles but it seems like it doesn’t work nearly as good as it used to. Could be less flammable than it was before
Yeah of course why not change something that works they can't tell you more if it works