You guys got the K16 i6 to 250 bhp with standalone tuning and inlet manifold modifications?? That's too cool. I would love to see the official figures and maybe even dyno sheets!
Great question! The decision was made for a combination of usability and safety benefits. Laguna’s motorsport-derived power steering provides assistance when drivers want it most: turning the wheel while stationary (i.e. making a three-point turn) and emergency corrections, such as catching a slide or swerving around debris on a circuit. Hydraulic assist provides a consistent and tailored steering feel, especially at low speed. The razor sharp steering rack is also lighter than an equivalent unassisted rack because the integrated hydraulic piston absorbs steering forces, meaning the rack itself takes less force and can therefore be made smaller and lighter. The system’s electrically driven pump also provides hydraulic pressure for a front axle lift system, for a near-zero weight penalty!
Such a badass project. Of all custom builds this is certainly in the toppest tier. Geometry looks amazing and balanced. A damn custom BMW inline 6, on a chassis this small and tight, is so exciting to think about... then a sequential gearbox to make it all sing at 10k rpm. So looking forward to the future of this. Has Shoreline ever considered doing a single seater? Thanks for sharing this!
Did you consider the Honda Gold Wing six for this as well? Like the Beemer, it would require some adapting, but it might be six to nine inches shorter - that forward lean of the BMW and need for an adapter has to add length. Or were there reasons not to do that, like more difficulty in in actually making it work, or the image superiority of a Beemer motor over a Honda in a high-end machine?
Great question: we developed Laguna's character around a lightweight, compact, and high-revving naturally aspirated engine. We took many engines into consideration at the feasibility stage of our development program and came to find our BMW engine was the best match for the Laguna's character.
@@ShorelineBespoke Ah. And the Beemer probably revs higher, whereas the Honda's sweet spot is at medium speed. You would, of course, want a Six for the smoothness, the sound, and the high-end connotations - this has got to be a pretty expensive car, and a buzzy, thrashy Four doesn't quite feel like something someone should pay a house-sized lump of money for.
Thanks for your comment! Laguna's cooling system was developed in collaboration with PWR - a supplier of Formula 1 cooling systems - and is certainly up to the task of keeping temperatures in check during the hottest days, whether heat-soaking in traffic or running full-out on track. Laguna's full HVAC will keep our customers and their passengers cool as well! For more information, you can visit shorelinebespoke.com
If I'm guessing right and you utilized the enigne and transmission out of the K1600GT, are there plans to integrate a reversing gearbox into it? or do ya just get out and push
Great question - Laguna's six-speed sequential gearbox is complemented by a custom transaxle that incorporates a limited-slip differential as well as a reverse gear. The gearshift in the car operates both gearboxes simultaneously when selecting reverse. More on that in an upcoming video! Thank you for your support!
What’s going on with the ammo can bolted in front of the right rear wheel? Maybe add some roofline support going rearward over the motor. That center section ending in an unsupported roll hoop scares me
Stay tuned for a video coming out later today for more details on our ammo box! As for the roof support, Laguna's chassis is designed to exceed all relevant roof crush and rollover protection crash tests, and built to regulation for many motorsport sanctioning bodies. You can subscribe to our newsletter via our homepage for development updates, including a deep dive on FEA and crash tests as our development progresses.
awesome!! Front tires seem a bit too wide though. Elise/Exige level contact patches should be plenty, with a bit of extra sidewall for ride comfort and more 60's era driving sensation. Let it roll a bit!
Thank you for your support! Our prototype vehicle is wearing "temporary" wheels and tires; look for our next build to incorporate 17" magnesium wheels and tires with larger sidewalls. You hit the nail on the head for where our driving dynamics are going!
@@ShorelineBespoke excellent. I've driven cars with mega grip and they're great but the most fun has been on skinnier rubber: Opel Speedster on the Nurburgring, 308GTS Ferrari on Road America and auto-xing, Fiat X1/9 on a pro Kart Track, etc. Lightweight + modest, zesty power + engine in the middle + delicate steering + twisty road = driving nirvana! Best wishes on making your vision a reality. Who knows, I may come into enough disposable cash someday to buy one :)
Very cool design/project, which program did you use to design it? (cool video, but your voice could be a little bit more audible, so your story is more clear, the music is a little too loud)
I would recommend swapping that plastic power steering reservoir with a “ Turner Triple Baffled Power Steering Reservoir” one. It’s cnc aluminium, plug and play while supports other fitting standards. Those plastic ones all eventually leak 😅. You can thank me later with a drive in one of these 🏎️
I love the concept, the rendering of the eventual body looks incredible. Is there any way to switch over to a conventional manual transmission? The market for unique specialty builds seems to favor the manual transmissions. Gordon Murry stated that he felt kind of foolish for bothering to create an auto version of one of his recent creations, because everybody ordered it with a manual. Either way, keep up the good work.
Great question James: Laguna's motorsport ethos coupled with a sequential transmission makes sense for us in a way that did not fit the T50's character. Our customers are see Laguna's sequential gearbox as a standout feature and something that really sets it apart in terms of the driving experience. Thank you for your comment!
1:13 what type of sequential is it/how is the shifter linked to the geabox? Seems kinda weird to me to see a sequetial where the shifter can go sideways, but maybe i'm missing something
Great question, Dante! Laguna utilizes an in-house designed shifter linkage that mechanically operates a forward/reverse gearbox in addition to the standard BMW sequential transmission with six forward gears. The sideways motion is what allows us to engage the vehicle into reverse.
Hi Robert, you are absolutely right in expecting production models to have impact-absorbing features at regulation height. Laguna is designed as a road-legal vehicle, and as such, is built to all relevant worldwide automotive safety standards. While Laguna Prototype One is essentially a test mule that proves all of our chassis engineering, our second build will begin to incorporate some of these additional safety elements. Thanks for your comment!
Fantastic project! Wish all the luck for you guys. Can u talk more about the gearbox and the decision to put the gas tank in front os the car? Cheers from Brazil!
Thank you for your support! Laguna uses a six-speed sequential gearbox with a billet aluminum shifter designed in-house. You can see the shifter in action here: shorelinebespoke.com/updates/edition-twelve Laguna is packaged to be as compact and as safe as possible, and our decision to house the 12-gallon FIA certified fuel cell within at the front of the main chassis structure reflects this. While the car's frontal crash structure is not present on Prototype One, we look forward to sharing more about the specific design elements with you in future videos!
Thank you for the comment! Laguna's BMW-derived inline 6 has immense potential, even early on in our development program. You can visit shorelinebespoke.com/updates to learn more about Laguna's development program, and subscribe to our newsletter via our homepage for more powertrain announcements the moment they happen!
@@ShorelineBespoke okay thanks for answering. I just tought some 4 cylinders and rotaries would also be kinda fun. But does a new engine need redising the chassis?
@@erser895 The inline-6 is rigidly mounted to the chassis as a semi-stressed member and increases laguna's torsional rigidity in doing so; you're right in thinking a new engine would mean chassis redesign! A different engine configuration would also lose the I6's perfect primary and secondary balance, and risk increasing interior vibrations to undesirable levels.
Thanks for your comment! Laguna uses a six-speed sequential gearbox, manually operated with our billet shifter designed in-house! You can read more about our transmission and see our shifter in action here: shorelinebespoke.com/updates/edition-twelve
Laguna Prototype One is shown with a prototype-only wheel package, which consists of 225/45R15 front and 245/40R15 rear. Production vehicles will utilize a 17" wheel and slightly wider tires. Thanks for your comment!
Hi Mike, those hilariously oversized pins are an additional safety step for our prototype vehicle's bespoke center lock wheels! Production vehicles will have a similar feature that is internal to the axle and therefore not visible. Thanks for your comment!
Why carbon fiber everywhere?..... Is there a reason we need thousands in carbon rather than fiberglass? I feel like carbon fiber is excessively expensive and over hyped. If you want this to be enthusiast grade and also not neck breaking expensive then don't fill it with carbon fiber. It would be like making all the electronics from gold because its the best metal for conductivity. Its just not practical, cheaper isn't always a compromise.
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This is what I miss, Small Supercars! Ty for this
Thank you for your support! Please share if you feel so inclined!
You guys got the K16 i6 to 250 bhp with standalone tuning and inlet manifold modifications?? That's too cool. I would love to see the official figures and maybe even dyno sheets!
Thank you for your support! The engine has substantial internal work as well, which we are excited to share more about in future videos!
Sometimes I REALLY wish I was rich. This thing is a work of art.
I'd love to see a rotating CAD rendering of the bare chassis.
we'll add that to our list of videos to make!
@@PMaslak23 excellent, thank you.
Pete is on it!
Will power steering really be necessary in such a light weight car with the motor and transmission in the rear? Beautiful design!
That was my thought. Lotus Elise manages without.
Great question! The decision was made for a combination of usability and safety benefits. Laguna’s motorsport-derived power steering provides assistance when drivers want it most: turning the wheel while stationary (i.e. making a three-point turn) and emergency corrections, such as catching a slide or swerving around debris on a circuit. Hydraulic assist provides a consistent and tailored steering feel, especially at low speed. The razor sharp steering rack is also lighter than an equivalent unassisted rack because the integrated hydraulic piston absorbs steering forces, meaning the rack itself takes less force and can therefore be made smaller and lighter. The system’s electrically driven pump also provides hydraulic pressure for a front axle lift system, for a near-zero weight penalty!
@@ShorelineBespoke love the idea of multitasking components. Thanks for the response!
@ShorelineBespoke you'd be good at writing magazine ads
Yes yes yes!! You did it man! I always knew you would. Now I want one bad hahaha. Congrats and I can't wait to watch your progress :D
Thanks Sam!
Love the footprint!
Thank you for the support! We love your profile picture as well, long live the small driver's cars!
Such a badass project. Of all custom builds this is certainly in the toppest tier. Geometry looks amazing and balanced. A damn custom BMW inline 6, on a chassis this small and tight, is so exciting to think about... then a sequential gearbox to make it all sing at 10k rpm. So looking forward to the future of this. Has Shoreline ever considered doing a single seater? Thanks for sharing this!
Thank you so much for your support! We have considered a single-seater... that is all we can say for now 😉
super cool build.
Thank you for your support!
psyched to learn about your firm and this car. minor critique: please consider boosting audio levels in future videos. looking forward to new content,
first time using these new mics, next video already sounds way better!
Thanks for the feedback and for your support!
This is awesome!! 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you Chris!
Can't wait to see the finished product. Looks beautiful. How much are we talking here?
What’s in the ammo box? Battery storage?
not really a fan of the comming bodywork. but it's fantastic to see such a project getting into real life.
This would be sweet Electric, so fast and torque
Im curious to learn more about the differential. Where did it come from or is it bespoke as well?
Laguna's limited-slip differential is a built-to-order unit! Thank you for your comment!
I'm following along closely, looks sick so far! Do you have a ballpark estimate on how much they'll cost and how many you'll make?
They quoted me just under half a million usd
Did you consider the Honda Gold Wing six for this as well?
Like the Beemer, it would require some adapting, but it might be six to nine inches shorter - that forward lean of the BMW and need for an adapter has to add length. Or were there reasons not to do that, like more difficulty in in actually making it work, or the image superiority of a Beemer motor over a Honda in a high-end machine?
Great question: we developed Laguna's character around a lightweight, compact, and high-revving naturally aspirated engine. We took many engines into consideration at the feasibility stage of our development program and came to find our BMW engine was the best match for the Laguna's character.
@@ShorelineBespoke Ah. And the Beemer probably revs higher, whereas the Honda's sweet spot is at medium speed.
You would, of course, want a Six for the smoothness, the sound, and the high-end connotations - this has got to be a pretty expensive car, and a buzzy, thrashy Four doesn't quite feel like something someone should pay a house-sized lump of money for.
@@Baribrotzer you hit the nail on the head!
The cooling system working at 110°F ambient in the shade but in city traffic. For both engine and driver
Thanks for your comment! Laguna's cooling system was developed in collaboration with PWR - a supplier of Formula 1 cooling systems - and is certainly up to the task of keeping temperatures in check during the hottest days, whether heat-soaking in traffic or running full-out on track. Laguna's full HVAC will keep our customers and their passengers cool as well! For more information, you can visit shorelinebespoke.com
@@ShorelineBespoke sure hope it works. I had a PWR for my bandit powered car, had some issues. Needed R&D
If I'm guessing right and you utilized the enigne and transmission out of the K1600GT, are there plans to integrate a reversing gearbox into it? or do ya just get out and push
Great question - Laguna's six-speed sequential gearbox is complemented by a custom transaxle that incorporates a limited-slip differential as well as a reverse gear. The gearshift in the car operates both gearboxes simultaneously when selecting reverse. More on that in an upcoming video! Thank you for your support!
What’s going on with the ammo can bolted in front of the right rear wheel? Maybe add some roofline support going rearward over the motor. That center section ending in an unsupported roll hoop scares me
Stay tuned for a video coming out later today for more details on our ammo box! As for the roof support, Laguna's chassis is designed to exceed all relevant roof crush and rollover protection crash tests, and built to regulation for many motorsport sanctioning bodies. You can subscribe to our newsletter via our homepage for development updates, including a deep dive on FEA and crash tests as our development progresses.
What's the general price range you guys are looking for?
awesome!! Front tires seem a bit too wide though. Elise/Exige level contact patches should be plenty, with a bit of extra sidewall for ride comfort and more 60's era driving sensation. Let it roll a bit!
Thank you for your support! Our prototype vehicle is wearing "temporary" wheels and tires; look for our next build to incorporate 17" magnesium wheels and tires with larger sidewalls. You hit the nail on the head for where our driving dynamics are going!
@@ShorelineBespoke excellent. I've driven cars with mega grip and they're great but the most fun has been on skinnier rubber: Opel Speedster on the Nurburgring, 308GTS Ferrari on Road America and auto-xing, Fiat X1/9 on a pro Kart Track, etc. Lightweight + modest, zesty power + engine in the middle + delicate steering + twisty road = driving nirvana! Best wishes on making your vision a reality. Who knows, I may come into enough disposable cash someday to buy one :)
I reaaaaaally wanna see it in action
Look for a video on that next month!
Is the carbon interior due to be wet lay, infusion or pre-preg carbon? I reckon a nice herringbone down the centreline would look elegant as hell
You read our minds!
Nice! Will you get this street legal? What about all the regulations about safety and emissions?
Thank you for your support! Laguna is being developed as a full production vehicle and will meet all relevant regulations in our target markets.
Very cool design/project, which program did you use to design it? (cool video, but your voice could be a little bit more audible, so your story is more clear, the music is a little too loud)
Thanks for the feedback and your support! We have since made some adjustments to our microphone settings; the next video will be clearer!
I would recommend swapping that plastic power steering reservoir with a “ Turner Triple Baffled Power Steering Reservoir” one. It’s cnc aluminium, plug and play while supports other fitting standards. Those plastic ones all eventually leak 😅. You can thank me later with a drive in one of these 🏎️
Production models will indeed use a more durable reservoir - we know what you mean!
I love the concept, the rendering of the eventual body looks incredible. Is there any way to switch over to a conventional manual transmission? The market for unique specialty builds seems to favor the manual transmissions. Gordon Murry stated that he felt kind of foolish for bothering to create an auto version of one of his recent creations, because everybody ordered it with a manual. Either way, keep up the good work.
Great question James: Laguna's motorsport ethos coupled with a sequential transmission makes sense for us in a way that did not fit the T50's character. Our customers are see Laguna's sequential gearbox as a standout feature and something that really sets it apart in terms of the driving experience. Thank you for your comment!
@@ShorelineBespoke is there a clutch pedal?
@@jamescaldwell5 Yes!
1:13 what type of sequential is it/how is the shifter linked to the geabox? Seems kinda weird to me to see a sequetial where the shifter can go sideways, but maybe i'm missing something
Great question, Dante! Laguna utilizes an in-house designed shifter linkage that mechanically operates a forward/reverse gearbox in addition to the standard BMW sequential transmission with six forward gears. The sideways motion is what allows us to engage the vehicle into reverse.
Please Please sell the chassis plans as a kit build! It Would make a Future dream come true!
I would love to see more in depth on the 3-D renders of the body
Stay tuned for an upcoming video covering just that!
@@ShorelineBespoke awesome man look forward to it
I am hoping version 2 will have impact absorbing structures- at a suitable height. And it's fuel cell well within the main tubular frame.
Hi Robert, you are absolutely right in expecting production models to have impact-absorbing features at regulation height. Laguna is designed as a road-legal vehicle, and as such, is built to all relevant worldwide automotive safety standards. While Laguna Prototype One is essentially a test mule that proves all of our chassis engineering, our second build will begin to incorporate some of these additional safety elements. Thanks for your comment!
@@ShorelineBespoke Great stuff!!
Fantastic project! Wish all the luck for you guys. Can u talk more about the gearbox and the decision to put the gas tank in front os the car? Cheers from Brazil!
Thank you for your support! Laguna uses a six-speed sequential gearbox with a billet aluminum shifter designed in-house. You can see the shifter in action here: shorelinebespoke.com/updates/edition-twelve
Laguna is packaged to be as compact and as safe as possible, and our decision to house the 12-gallon FIA certified fuel cell within at the front of the main chassis structure reflects this. While the car's frontal crash structure is not present on Prototype One, we look forward to sharing more about the specific design elements with you in future videos!
Are you planing to only use the current engine? Or do you have plans for different engines?
Thank you for the comment! Laguna's BMW-derived inline 6 has immense potential, even early on in our development program. You can visit shorelinebespoke.com/updates to learn more about Laguna's development program, and subscribe to our newsletter via our homepage for more powertrain announcements the moment they happen!
@@ShorelineBespoke okay thanks for answering. I just tought some 4 cylinders and rotaries would also be kinda fun. But does a new engine need redising the chassis?
@@erser895 The inline-6 is rigidly mounted to the chassis as a semi-stressed member and increases laguna's torsional rigidity in doing so; you're right in thinking a new engine would mean chassis redesign! A different engine configuration would also lose the I6's perfect primary and secondary balance, and risk increasing interior vibrations to undesirable levels.
@@ShorelineBespoke Ok, i appreciate your answer. Best of luck on your jorney.
What gearbox is that?
Thanks for your comment! Laguna uses a six-speed sequential gearbox, manually operated with our billet shifter designed in-house! You can read more about our transmission and see our shifter in action here: shorelinebespoke.com/updates/edition-twelve
what rubber ya got on it?
Laguna Prototype One is shown with a prototype-only wheel package, which consists of 225/45R15 front and 245/40R15 rear. Production vehicles will utilize a 17" wheel and slightly wider tires. Thanks for your comment!
When can we see it running on a track?
You can expect coverage of track testing next month! Thank you for your support!
@@ShorelineBespoke Looking forward to it.
Can you order one in sheetmetal instead of Carbon fiber?
The use of carbon fiber is necessary to achieve Laguna's production weight target of 1,400 pounds! Thanks for your comment!
Fire
Thank you! Please share if you feel so inclined!
did yall make the chassi or buy it from someone if so who?
Thank you for your support! Laguna will be limited to 75 units with a starting price of $495,000.
Some times I wonder what attributes my imaginary perfect car would have, and this one has them all.
Thank you for your support! Please share if you feel so inclined!
How high it is?
Good Luck with the project!!
👍
Thank you for your support! This prototype is a bit lower than the production vehicle, which will have 4.5" (115mm) of ground clearance.
For some reason I thought this car would have no body and be as is. I was wrong.
The production vehicle will indeed be a carbon-bodied coupé! You can view Laguna's exterior and interior design at shorelinebespoke.com
I prefer the raw look
sell that
Thanks Ethan!
Can’t take my focus off the tractors linch pin clips on the wheels….
Hi Mike, those hilariously oversized pins are an additional safety step for our prototype vehicle's bespoke center lock wheels! Production vehicles will have a similar feature that is internal to the axle and therefore not visible. Thanks for your comment!
@@ShorelineBespoke thanks for the reply. I was just giving ya crap. I know it’s a prototype. I built Formula SAE cars back in College.
Why carbon fiber everywhere?..... Is there a reason we need thousands in carbon rather than fiberglass? I feel like carbon fiber is excessively expensive and over hyped. If you want this to be enthusiast grade and also not neck breaking expensive then don't fill it with carbon fiber. It would be like making all the electronics from gold because its the best metal for conductivity. Its just not practical, cheaper isn't always a compromise.
seats are crap, no head protection = you failed
Production vehicles will of course have head protection. You can see Laguna’s interior design at shorelinebespoke.com