I believe that 100% my mother shouldn’t have had kids. She didn’t know how to take care of me and my siblings, she ended up abandoning us with my grandparents for drugs and alcohol. Early this year I found out she got charged for assault on an officer with her wife too.
Yes! It’s unusual and refreshing to see someone doing this respectful but still with some humor! Bailey Sarian were the only one I knew before that would kind of do this - but not good enough for my taste - Kris however is spectacular! ✨👏🏻
Disturbing fact: Rose had an affair with another serial killer in jail, Myra Hindley. She along with her boyfriend Ian Brady committed the Moors Murders. Awful.
@@Hilichurl_WorkerI don’t think it’s entirely true. Apparently they were just friends and then broke it off because West’s solicitor told her it wasn’t a good luck or something along those lines. But they made soft toys together for West’s newborn grandchild which is still very creepy
My nan use to serve Fred West at a local cafe. She said he was very polite to staff and really well spoken. She would have never expected anything like this.
My dad use to get his tobacco from Fred as they lived across the road from each other, only thing my dad knew of it all was when the police went knocking on Fred’s door. My dad’s mate was picking up his step son from Gloucester Police station as Fred was brought in and they both said hello to each other like they were passing each other on the streets. Fred was a Bizarre character
I don't hear "ventromedial frontal cortex" too often on TH-cam and I think the way Kris just goes into those kinds of details, without dumbing it down or patronising the audience, is one of the reasons why these true-crime deep-dives are so good.
The training from his family that others are disposable seems to be the biggest factor to me. I know someone who grew up so poor they were kicked out of every home they lived in for never paying the rent, suffered a few head injuries, was sexually abused by her father, and bullied by her classmates and teachers. She is actually a wonderful woman. Rather than be like her parents, she and her siblings resolved to be nothing like them. Thank goodness for that.
That’s the thing I find most interesting is the birth of empaths and narcissists. They both stem from childhood abuse and trauma but an empath grows to never want to make anyone feel the way they feel while a narcissist grows needy for control and making others feel the pain they did. It’s not an excuse for their vile behaviour however interesting thought that one path can create such different outlooks on life and personality
@@leahofer8236 that's a very true point, and a very good one. The question becomes why? What makes that difference? I honestly can't imagine what it is. I have plenty of examples I know far too well to look at, but I still don't know the answer.
@@ladykoiwolfe The persons soul. I also had quite bad things happen to me in life early in age. No SA from my parents luckily but did have a couple of SA things happen with someone my age, along with not getting on with my parents, they're pathological liars, have no friends just not nice people. I got bullied relentlessly in school, didn't really have any friends etc. Had to have therapy for 2 years from developing a debilitating social and general anxiety disorder at age 13 (parents didn't emotionally support me at all growing up) I've always been chill, happy and wouldn't hurt a fly. I'm told I have the patience of a saint but I've always been that way. Some people are just born bad, either you have a good family and those things lie dormant and you have learnt to suppress it through proper teaching at an early age or it becomes who you are and you can't see past it and are evil from the get go. If you have a good soul nothing will change that and even if the worst happens to you it won't have any effect. That's just my theory anyways. Everyone has intrusive thoughts sometimes that aren't nice but the ones that kill like these people just have no filter and it becomes their reality instantly by acting on it not just a passing thought. Seeing someones soul is pretty simple, look into their eyes long enough and you can tell what kind of person they are. The eyes are the window into the soul afterall.
@@ladykoiwolfeAs a person who's suffered during their childhood, and diagnosed as a psychopath. What I think happened to be to turn out to be a decent person is the fact that I watched content that talked about being a good person when I was younger, and I had a good person to look up to in my life. My brother was always there for me even if he was putting himself in harms way, he was very giving and kind. I guess that encouraged me to do the same to others. Though I will say there are still a few things wrong with me, but can you really blame me? Atleast I'm doing my best and I own up to my behaviour.
The fact that I’ve been watching both Kris and Oompaville for a few years and now she’s filming in his studio feels so wholesome, happy for these guys :)
I like that they turned it into a pathway. Any building they put there would likely be tarnished by the history. I also feel it's more respectful to the victims who suffered there.
@@painted_clowne_cosplays sadly that's what a lot of rapists and SA will say, especially if the victim is dressed more scantily or if she does not respond with a vocal "no". Just because someone dresses revealingly or they don't say "no" explicitly, that is not and should never be taken as a yes.
Fun fact these two delightful people lived 20 mins down the road for me, went to school with there nephew and the only woman to get away from them and tell the police lived 2 minutes up the road
I lived on the main road off Cromwell street for a few years - around the time the new(ish) documentary was being filmed that pulled up a lot more information.
I don't know if I want to hear more about their experiences. I'm happy they made it out, and I hope they are having success. I also hope that those books have done well, financially and maybe for them to have their stories heard - some modicum of good out of an otherwise completely horrific experience.
fred committed unalivement the year they were caught but rose is still alive. people in the prison call her 'auntie rose' because she reminds them of older family members and she loves knitting. it's a terrifying reminder of how unassuming these sickos can be.
@@babycomeonn the likelihood of someone with a trigger like that coming onto a video about serial killers is somewhat low, but i still like to try to be respectful of them in case it does happen. thanks for your meaningless input though
Kris please continue doing these reported documentaries, they are so facisinating to listen to, you really do your homework on these and it is very pleasurable to listen to your show your very talented. For that I say thank you and keep up the great work. 😊
for those who lost count of the kids Rose had 8 kids, 5 were freds and 3 from prostitution Fred had the 5 with rose, adopted Charmaine and had Anne Marie with Rena, 1 illegitimate child, killed unborn child with Anne Mcfall so overall, 11-12 kids (depends on your source)
Wait, weren't there 2 illegitimate children? I thought Kris mentioned Steven and another son that Fred had during his time with Rena, before meeting Rose.
Truly messed up, I feel sick when hearing the horrible things that happened to innocent people, especially children, my heart goes out to the victims and their families
I would love to see Kris do a deep dive into the Ken and Barbie killers. She just brings such an interesting energy into the way these stories are told
I'm from the same city as Fred and Rose West, I had a hyperfixation on them and have found close to 30 women who almost fell victim to them, but their parents had decided to send them somewhere else, or picked them up just in time. I find them very interesting and collect books on them, I live fairly close to their old house as well and have kept updated on the places they've been looking into more possible victims as well.
I visit Gloucester all the time (the way you said it had me laughing) and fun fact, the Cromwell Street sign has been stolen repeatedly due to the Wests’ infamy. I know people who’s patios were done by Fred West so it’s a common joke(?) that there are probably bodies under there. Truly their story is wild
I'm from Gloucester still live here the street signs don't get stolen the house doesn't exist any more it got knocked down I should know considering I lived at 41 Cromwell Street
@AnnaBanana186 oompaville does this thing where he turns to the secondary camera and he stiffens while enunciating his words more than normal and now Kris does it it's really funny and cute
not that cute or funny, actually noticed it after reading comment only. But I see what you mean. Am indifferent to it though could be considered more annoying than anything.
Is this by any chance the Moors murder? Rose ended up having an affair with mirya hindley who was one of the serial killers who committed the moors murders
I lost count of the children wayyyyy before Rose came into the picture 😭😭 But yes, I do agree with Kris, we need a special test that people need to pass in order to become parents. It would definitely lessen the amount of troubled and traumatized children.
It’s very interesting to see how people with similar backgrounds can become extremely different people. My mother had a decently similar childhood to him and she didn’t turn out a serial killer. My mother had a head injury as a young child from a car accident then had another concussion as a teenager I believe. She was bullied although her school years and her teachers treated her horribly. She had a very physically abusive and unstable father. Yet she turned out a wonderful person, quite mentally ill unsurprisingly but she is a great person.
The way I lit up seeing you were covering our local serial killer case is probably grounds for me to go back to therapy - but still, thank you for covering the West case! I can say categorically it's WEIRD how on the rare occassions we use the car park on the end of the street they lived on, and you can just see this big conspicuous gap between the houses today...
Also you absolutely said it wrong. It's pronounced Gloss-ter, and it's not a small town at all, it is a pretty decent sized cities (over here the distinction between a town and a city is whether or not it has a cathedral, and Gloucester Cathedral is both ancient and massive!)
Hi, I agree I go to the street and space so I can be close to my friend Heather, we went to Hucclecote secondary school together, I miss her so much, i went to that house looking for Heather but was told she had run away
I literally LOVE true crime but almost never have the attention span to watch them, but for some reason i could sit here for hours cause kris tells the stories so well😭😭
Nobody does true crime quite like Kris. Thank you for putting in so much research and effort to make these videos, they’re definitely my favorite from this channel.
He's truly just as good as kris. If u see this please watch the video on the Cranbrook freak accidents. It's my home town and it's just completely forgotten
@@MrsGordonFreemanit’s not the way she’s talking necessarily, it’s she does the same exact cuts and does the side cam when making a joke, I mean whatever idc but there’s absolutely more then just talking similar….it’s everything. I mean even down to the how she handles mispronunciations, hey if it brings her success which it does I can’t hate but yeah Caleb inspired alot….i mean alot of her video style currently
I've been thinking the same for a while, but at the same time, I feel like she's always been like that? But I've definitely noticed it more the past couple months. No matter what, it's adorable.
i find this so interesting! as my auntie was their next door neighbour and would see them especially fred sat outside the house just talking to people passing by. I also find this so interesting as i’ve grown up with everyone telling me what happened but not a lot of details and living in the city knowing that these sick people were just walking around makes me feel so lucky that they were caught, Fred west also built the sports hall of churchdown academy the school i went to and it went round that he had actually hidden one or some of his victims in the walls of the gym.
#1 the fact that you can find all of this information is remarkable but scares me a little bit. #2 it's very clear that Rose West is NOT a girl's girl. Also, Kris if you could respond to this comment in any way, thank you! I love watching your videos. I also love the videos that you and Celina make together because they always put a smile on my face even when you two are talking to ghosts in haunted hotels.
These two (words I can’t say on here) are the bogeyman for British people, they’re still spoken about and it still manages to make you throw up in your in your mouth no matter how many times the story is told, my parents still remember them on the tele and how angry and just horrified the whole country was
Imagine that woman who got away from them reported and pushed harder with accusations, so many lives would be saved... This story gave me chills omg, so much pain
I would appreciate subtitles at the bottom. Not forcing you, Kris, and Jay. Having subtitles helps me focus more on what you're saying, Kris, when you're doing these deep dives! Thanks 😊
@@harenhallharfootnot fully though. I try to watch with them, but without proper punctuation and sometimes correct words, it confuses me, and I can’t read properly without them..
@@baffledbatyou might be having issues with the closed captions because of all the changes in the words she had to do to make it possible to upload this video. Like instead of suicide, Kris said “slewerslide” and the closed captions said slew slide. Otherwise the closed captions are pretty accurate when she isn’t having to make up words so it can be uploaded
But no one told Kris it’s Gloss-ter!! I’ve lived in Edinburgh for a long time and am so used to folks from overseas calling it Edin-burgg, I don’t even care anymore!
can we all just take second to appreciate all the effort Kris goes to to gather all the information and time she puts into these cases for us thankyou aunty Kris we love you
Was so shocked to see this one. Being British obviously it’s a huge reference for serial killers here. I’m so shocked but happy this was covered. Not many seem aware of them outside of the uk. This was so good to watch!
I met one of the police officers that worked on the case. He talked about his experience as a presentation. He was one of the men that dug up the garden and the basement. He met them and was handcuffed to Fred when he showed the police where he buried his ‘wife(?)’. Also the fact that if they had dug in the other direction the first time, they would’ve found the body of their daughter that Fred had confessed to, and it probably would’ve ended there, and the other bodies may have never been found. Edit: also, we have a family friend that worked as a prison officer, and worked in the prison Rose is/was kept. Apparently she was quite flirty.
Oooooo, I have heard of serial killer couples, but never this one. These videos are always very entertaining and informative. Love tuning into your videos, Kris!
Again very well done and researched. I very much enjoy your work on these true crime stories. I like how you researched serial killers from other countries that we haven't heard of . Awesome!
This is one of the longest TH-cam videos. I have watched that was not a World War II documentary or a podcast with people that I look up to or want to hear from having said. Kris this was absolutely beautifully done. I was holding onto every second thanks.
I love Kris sm she makes my day and I have loved true crime my whole life and being able to watch my favorite TH-camr and true crime at the same time is so amazing!
You should also do an episode on Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo -another famous couple serial killers known as 'Ken and Barbie killers'. Its a messed up story
Gloucester is just said as “gloss-ter”. I’m from Grimsby UK and that was one of the best attempts I’ve heard for trying to say that place name! I also can’t read in a moving vehicle so I love audible too!
you're literally the only person i can focus on for an hour and actually consume all of the information, this is definitely one of my favorite series on youtube right now
The way Kris says Gloucester is quite funny. I have friends who’s mothers lived on the same street as Rose west and knew her and their family. It’s crazy how close to me this all happened
This is such a sad case. I would 100% recommended watching the LADbible video “ living with britains most notorious serial killers “ it is a women talking who lived on the top floor of the house while this was happening. She talks about hearing the children screaming and actually went in to the basement but managed to a scape the house it is very interesting but heartbreaking ❤
Can I just say thanks to Kris for literally SAVING LIVES. With every video posted at least one life is saved or talked down from SH. Thank you Kris ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I grew up with this case and I thought I knew all the details but you clearly worked hard on this as your research uncovered things I had never heard before. I hope you continue to create content around serious crimes as it was both interesting and informative.
I think a lot of people forget that they were called "Ogres" because back then, it was rare to be overweight. Nowadays, overweight people are everywhere. Back then, it was so rare that people were mocked for it, severely so. Hell, I think it was still relatively rare until the late 80s. It was the 90s when I noticed people getting larger.
"Every child deserves parents, but not every parent deserves a child"
-A Wise Woman Said
My brain read that as "-A Wise Woman Salad" and now I know I'm an idiot
So true
That's how life & nature functions & performs tbh
Thanks for all the likes, I was not expecting that
I believe that 100% my mother shouldn’t have had kids. She didn’t know how to take care of me and my siblings, she ended up abandoning us with my grandparents for drugs and alcohol. Early this year I found out she got charged for assault on an officer with her wife too.
Kris’s ability to mix depth, research, and a touch of humor into such a dark topic is truly remarkable.
I completely agree! Her ability is incredible ❤️
Agreed! I am not a true crime lover, but Kris presents it in a way that I can watch.
She’s amazingly talented and a ray of sun.
Maman le tuer français jean 😢Claude romand
Yes! It’s unusual and refreshing to see someone doing this respectful but still with some humor!
Bailey Sarian were the only one I knew before that would kind of do this - but not good enough for my taste - Kris however is spectacular! ✨👏🏻
"CRIME, CONSPIRACY, CULTS, AND MURDER, AND ALL THE THINGS I LOVE TO CONSUME." proceeds to look deeper into your soul with every word💀
Is this something that Karina would say?
(I forgot the Russian characters name I hope I got it right plz correct me if I'm wrong)
@@DuckShade_Official close it’s Katrina
Kris POV: 👁️👁️
@@PaoPao24-zb1gj ah, thanks!
@@DuckShade_OfficialKatrina, legit one letter off 😂
“Who the fuck has 6 hamsters?”
*me, sitting here remembering when I had 23 hamsters because they wouldn’t stop mating* 😅 “idk babe”
Oh my gosh that’s so funny 😂
Oh wow, um what did you do to them?
@@Yuxi_lixiii. we ended up giving away the ones we didn’t want lol
@@mousemouse3168 makes sense lol
Me with my birds
"Putting him into a 7day coma or should I say 7day karma"
Bro she's so true😂😂
For a sec I thought true said cute 🥲
@@Dino-boi_13 I mean thats true as well
i high-fived her hand
Just so true lol
Two severe concussions back to back...Again, two serious karmas in a row 😅
"Bounce up and down on a bus driver's PRNDL" IS SENDING ME 🤣🤣😭
That got me giggling too
Thanks for the confirmation, I somehow heard "pringle" and I was mildy confused
💀
What's that mean
@@nanyur3013 PRNDL stands for Park, reverse, neutral, drive , and something I don't know.
That's what I'm assuming 🧍🏻
Disturbing fact: Rose had an affair with another serial killer in jail, Myra Hindley. She along with her boyfriend Ian Brady committed the Moors Murders. Awful.
WHAT
This story is so werid. Like there life is a hell hole.
@@Hilichurl_WorkerI don’t think it’s entirely true. Apparently they were just friends and then broke it off because West’s solicitor told her it wasn’t a good luck or something along those lines. But they made soft toys together for West’s newborn grandchild which is still very creepy
ROSE WAS MYRAS LOVER???!!
Yep and I've heard several cases of female k_llers becoming buddies with either her or Myra
My nan use to serve Fred West at a local cafe. She said he was very polite to staff and really well spoken. She would have never expected anything like this.
DAMN BRO
Damn
My dad use to get his tobacco from Fred as they lived across the road from each other, only thing my dad knew of it all was when the police went knocking on Fred’s door.
My dad’s mate was picking up his step son from Gloucester Police station as Fred was brought in and they both said hello to each other like they were passing each other on the streets. Fred was a Bizarre character
@@cheyvengeance5432 That's psychopathy. They can mimic decent people in order to fit in and get away with crimes.
I doubt your story as we don't have diners in the UK. Nice try though troll...
I don't hear "ventromedial frontal cortex" too often on TH-cam and I think the way Kris just goes into those kinds of details, without dumbing it down or patronising the audience, is one of the reasons why these true-crime deep-dives are so good.
The training from his family that others are disposable seems to be the biggest factor to me.
I know someone who grew up so poor they were kicked out of every home they lived in for never paying the rent, suffered a few head injuries, was sexually abused by her father, and bullied by her classmates and teachers.
She is actually a wonderful woman. Rather than be like her parents, she and her siblings resolved to be nothing like them. Thank goodness for that.
That’s the thing I find most interesting is the birth of empaths and narcissists. They both stem from childhood abuse and trauma but an empath grows to never want to make anyone feel the way they feel while a narcissist grows needy for control and making others feel the pain they did.
It’s not an excuse for their vile behaviour however interesting thought that one path can create such different outlooks on life and personality
@@leahofer8236 that's a very true point, and a very good one. The question becomes why? What makes that difference? I honestly can't imagine what it is. I have plenty of examples I know far too well to look at, but I still don't know the answer.
@@ladykoiwolfe The persons soul. I also had quite bad things happen to me in life early in age. No SA from my parents luckily but did have a couple of SA things happen with someone my age, along with not getting on with my parents, they're pathological liars, have no friends just not nice people. I got bullied relentlessly in school, didn't really have any friends etc. Had to have therapy for 2 years from developing a debilitating social and general anxiety disorder at age 13 (parents didn't emotionally support me at all growing up) I've always been chill, happy and wouldn't hurt a fly. I'm told I have the patience of a saint but I've always been that way.
Some people are just born bad, either you have a good family and those things lie dormant and you have learnt to suppress it through proper teaching at an early age or it becomes who you are and you can't see past it and are evil from the get go. If you have a good soul nothing will change that and even if the worst happens to you it won't have any effect. That's just my theory anyways. Everyone has intrusive thoughts sometimes that aren't nice but the ones that kill like these people just have no filter and it becomes their reality instantly by acting on it not just a passing thought.
Seeing someones soul is pretty simple, look into their eyes long enough and you can tell what kind of person they are. The eyes are the window into the soul afterall.
@@ladykoiwolfeAs a person who's suffered during their childhood, and diagnosed as a psychopath. What I think happened to be to turn out to be a decent person is the fact that I watched content that talked about being a good person when I was younger, and I had a good person to look up to in my life. My brother was always there for me even if he was putting himself in harms way, he was very giving and kind. I guess that encouraged me to do the same to others. Though I will say there are still a few things wrong with me, but can you really blame me? Atleast I'm doing my best and I own up to my behaviour.
No kid deserves this
The fact that I’ve been watching both Kris and Oompaville for a few years and now she’s filming in his studio feels so wholesome, happy for these guys :)
Right?!
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed!
Oh nice All of us noticed
Edit: it's very nice
I think she’s now officially moved in with him :D
Wait who’s that
I like that they turned it into a pathway. Any building they put there would likely be tarnished by the history. I also feel it's more respectful to the victims who suffered there.
The fact that Fred said that the victims asked for it is so crazy, considering most of them were just young teenage girls who ran away from home
And his own children
the sheer disgust that that statement makes me feel is crazy. Like saying r@pe victims asked for it.
that's what gets you? that's the behaviour that gets you to say "oh no way, that's to much" for fuck sake mate
@@painted_clowne_cosplays sadly that's what a lot of rapists and SA will say, especially if the victim is dressed more scantily or if she does not respond with a vocal "no". Just because someone dresses revealingly or they don't say "no" explicitly, that is not and should never be taken as a yes.
Fun fact these two delightful people lived 20 mins down the road for me, went to school with there nephew and the only woman to get away from them and tell the police lived 2 minutes up the road
I bet when it all came out you were shocked!
@@quietone748it was most shocking be honest, little old Gloucestershire where every one knows everyone’s business, this shattered the communitu
Oh so delightful for sure, mhm!
That building is a church now oddly enough
I lived on the main road off Cromwell street for a few years - around the time the new(ish) documentary was being filmed that pulled up a lot more information.
Side note: Anne Marie, Stephan, and Mae West all wrote books about their experiences, for anyone wanting future context
*further
I don't know if I want to hear more about their experiences. I'm happy they made it out, and I hope they are having success. I also hope that those books have done well, financially and maybe for them to have their stories heard - some modicum of good out of an otherwise completely horrific experience.
fred committed unalivement the year they were caught but rose is still alive. people in the prison call her 'auntie rose' because she reminds them of older family members and she loves knitting. it's a terrifying reminder of how unassuming these sickos can be.
Fred is a coward.
Mhm and apparently she's changed her name to Jennifer Jones or something now
“Committed unalivement” I understand to a certain extent why people say this stupid shit in videos, but typing it out in a comment is wild.
@@babycomeonn the likelihood of someone with a trigger like that coming onto a video about serial killers is somewhat low, but i still like to try to be respectful of them in case it does happen. thanks for your meaningless input though
@@jessk1683
You make no sense.
I absolutely love kris doing true crime. She makes it less boring and wordy and much more interesting
Kris please continue doing these reported documentaries, they are so facisinating to listen to, you really do your homework on these and it is very pleasurable to listen to your show your very talented. For that I say thank you and keep up the great work. 😊
She's fun, exciting, entertaining, and most of all, intuitive
Ahh kris like my commentttt
@@infamouswickedjokestar FR
@@PR3TTYLITTLESWIFTIE "Yaws!"
I think my favorite part of these videos is the intro and her arm-crossing antics... 🤣
An orphan is adopted into a loving family every time Kris uploads
this is true im an orphan and was just adopted by a kind amish family
And 2 are thrown into my basement
@@TheTornAbyyss hol up
When she quits:
@@Solènelamigonnelicorneshe’s still doing that but she has a true crime series, but she still does her normal funny content ❤
for those who lost count of the kids
Rose had 8 kids, 5 were freds and 3 from prostitution
Fred had the 5 with rose, adopted Charmaine and had Anne Marie with Rena, 1 illegitimate child, killed unborn child with Anne Mcfall
so overall, 11-12 kids (depends on your source)
Thx!!
Wait, weren't there 2 illegitimate children? I thought Kris mentioned Steven and another son that Fred had during his time with Rena, before meeting Rose.
@@meeting_meghanGarrett
It makes me so sad that so many kids were born into that man
I’m blinking faster than the speed of light
Truly messed up, I feel sick when hearing the horrible things that happened to innocent people, especially children, my heart goes out to the victims and their families
Me too, I honestly had to pause half way through to process this sickening case...
"Crime, Conspiracy, Cults, and Murder"
yk ur in for a good ride when Kris says that.
“Let’s unbuckle our seatbelts go mock 5 down the highway slam on the breaks and dive through the windshield”
Best quote I’ve ever heard
Mach 5*
@@lizphoenix1826 Thank you. that shouldn't have bugged me, but it did haha
Mach 5**
2024
binge watching kris's true crime videos while making paper stars at 1 am >>
For real, I just be crocheting while listening to this
I draw while listening ❤
@@chavvaesper1663 Same, I was making bracelets earlier as well
Sewing patches onto a jacket here...
I'm finishing my 6 assignments due tomorrow that I have started
I would love to see Kris do a deep dive into the Ken and Barbie killers. She just brings such an interesting energy into the way these stories are told
Yessssss this would be amazing to watch Kris has such an interesting view on these things❤️
… and they’re Canadian. Which is - I don’t want to say good - scarier when you’re also Canadian?
The Robert Pickton is the Canadian scary case for me. And that's coming from a criminology graduate who's now going back for psychology.
Oh yes please
I'm from the same city as Fred and Rose West, I had a hyperfixation on them and have found close to 30 women who almost fell victim to them, but their parents had decided to send them somewhere else, or picked them up just in time. I find them very interesting and collect books on them, I live fairly close to their old house as well and have kept updated on the places they've been looking into more possible victims as well.
Hi hun, can I ask did you know Heather West at all as I went to school with her
I visit Gloucester all the time (the way you said it had me laughing) and fun fact, the Cromwell Street sign has been stolen repeatedly due to the Wests’ infamy. I know people who’s patios were done by Fred West so it’s a common joke(?) that there are probably bodies under there. Truly their story is wild
That’s super interesting. I just moved out of Gloucester like two months ago so when kris said it I was like 😳😳
@@kathoffman192Fr my old schools sports building was apparently built by him 😬
I'm from Gloucester still live here the street signs don't get stolen the house doesn't exist any more it got knocked down I should know considering I lived at 41 Cromwell Street
@@swifty121 I live at 42 Cromwell Street, and you're full of shit.
@@swifty121 Street not house sign.
We all know, that Oompavile is waiting outside the room, listening to this story with a bowl of popcorn and a soda
Dr pepper specifically
“Putting him into a 7 day coma, or a 7 day karma AM I RIGHTTTT- 👏🏼” made me laugh
Or a week karma idk
The oompa turn absolutely kills me because you do the thing where you go stiff and really enunciate your words 😂
Wdym?
It's funny how it's rubbing off on her
@AnnaBanana186 oompaville does this thing where he turns to the secondary camera and he stiffens while enunciating his words more than normal and now Kris does it it's really funny and cute
not that cute or funny, actually noticed it after reading comment only. But I see what you mean. Am indifferent to it though could be considered more annoying than anything.
@@ChloesColdEars111ok
Bobbing up and down on the bus drivers "PRNDL" is that what she said? That's hilarious 😂
Tell me why when i heard prndl I thought of the scene from the suite life of Zack and Cody
I low key thought she said Pringle, I wasn’t gonna question it lol
@@flyinglemons_9683 I can see London saying that too. 😂
I'm from the UK and I've hurd of a series of child murders similar to this near Manchester. 1 child's body was never found.
Is this by any chance the Moors murder? Rose ended up having an affair with mirya hindley who was one of the serial killers who committed the moors murders
Omg
Kris:”driving around in an ice cream truck van as a new job”
Me :being a girl in england hearing an ice cream truck outside 😳
We’ll never think of those ice cream vans the same again
Bro real
It's almost hard to believe that any person could be this bad, let alone the fact that you could be living in the same town as one
I lost count of the children wayyyyy before Rose came into the picture 😭😭
But yes, I do agree with Kris, we need a special test that people need to pass in order to become parents. It would definitely lessen the amount of troubled and traumatized children.
lots of good advice on how to not be killed by serial killers in this series.
Oh god, this wasn't far from me in the UK. They still think there are body's to be found in sites all over Gloucester. 😢
So worse than Jack the Ripper
It’s very interesting to see how people with similar backgrounds can become extremely different people.
My mother had a decently similar childhood to him and she didn’t turn out a serial killer. My mother had a head injury as a young child from a car accident then had another concussion as a teenager I believe. She was bullied although her school years and her teachers treated her horribly. She had a very physically abusive and unstable father. Yet she turned out a wonderful person, quite mentally ill unsurprisingly but she is a great person.
Spot on. It's a choice. Some o one way (like your mother) others go another way but get partly excused because of their "traumatic past"
Kris talks about hard topics but still makes it enjoyable to watch her and the stories she has and I love her videos 🩷🩷
The way I lit up seeing you were covering our local serial killer case is probably grounds for me to go back to therapy - but still, thank you for covering the West case! I can say categorically it's WEIRD how on the rare occassions we use the car park on the end of the street they lived on, and you can just see this big conspicuous gap between the houses today...
Also you absolutely said it wrong. It's pronounced Gloss-ter, and it's not a small town at all, it is a pretty decent sized cities (over here the distinction between a town and a city is whether or not it has a cathedral, and Gloucester Cathedral is both ancient and massive!)
Hi, I agree I go to the street and space so I can be close to my friend Heather, we went to Hucclecote secondary school together, I miss her so much, i went to that house looking for Heather but was told she had run away
Kris you dropped this
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hi Stay! (I'm also a stay)
Tatie kris il est 18h00 heures dans mon pays je me demande qu'elle heure est il au États-Unis actuellement 😊😊
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@@RoisinGriffinStudent-yb4qt hiii stayyy
STAYYY!!! HII 💖💖💖
I literally LOVE true crime but almost never have the attention span to watch them, but for some reason i could sit here for hours cause kris tells the stories so well😭😭
Nobody does true crime quite like Kris. Thank you for putting in so much research and effort to make these videos, they’re definitely my favorite from this channel.
Check out Mr Ballen. Another exquisite storyteller about the ‘strange, dark and mysterious.’
He's truly just as good as kris. If u see this please watch the video on the Cranbrook freak accidents. It's my home town and it's just completely forgotten
"Bouncing up and down on the bus driver's PRNDL" made me lose my drink. I love it
Idk but when you said "Mamas boy" i immidiately thought of
"🎵M A M A B O Y, mamas boy, mamas boy-🎵" 💀
Same- 💀💀💀
Same- :p
Anyone notice how she’s adopted some of Caleb’s mannerisms? 😂 it’s adorable 🥰
She's always talked like that lol they're just really similar
-5:30 DEFINITELY OOMPA
i’ve been waiting for someone to say this 😭
@@MrsGordonFreemanit’s not the way she’s talking necessarily, it’s she does the same exact cuts and does the side cam when making a joke, I mean whatever idc but there’s absolutely more then just talking similar….it’s everything. I mean even down to the how she handles mispronunciations, hey if it brings her success which it does I can’t hate but yeah Caleb inspired alot….i mean alot of her video style currently
I've been thinking the same for a while, but at the same time, I feel like she's always been like that? But I've definitely noticed it more the past couple months. No matter what, it's adorable.
i find this so interesting! as my auntie was their next door neighbour and would see them especially fred sat outside the house just talking to people passing by. I also find this so interesting as i’ve grown up with everyone telling me what happened but not a lot of details and living in the city knowing that these sick people were just walking around makes me feel so lucky that they were caught, Fred west also built the sports hall of churchdown academy the school i went to and it went round that he had actually hidden one or some of his victims in the walls of the gym.
Wtf that’s sick
no f***ing way! That's terryifying
When kris said caroline i literally got so scared because i was half asleep when she said that 😭
she sad caroline as I was literally reading this
#1 the fact that you can find all of this information is remarkable but scares me a little bit. #2 it's very clear that Rose West is NOT a girl's girl. Also, Kris if you could respond to this comment in any way, thank you! I love watching your videos. I also love the videos that you and Celina make together because they always put a smile on my face even when you two are talking to ghosts in haunted hotels.
These two (words I can’t say on here) are the bogeyman for British people, they’re still spoken about and it still manages to make you throw up in your in your mouth no matter how many times the story is told, my parents still remember them on the tele and how angry and just horrified the whole country was
Why do I feel like parents would tell their children if they were misbehaving rose and Fred will come after you if you don’t stop that? 🤷🏼♀️
I swear ever since you and Oompa starting dated you've started to act like him. It's hilarious 😂😂
Why is it that the only thing famous to come out of my home town ('Glos-ter') are serial killers and Nathan Sykes
I know right - only ever hear Gloucester mentioned if it’s in relation to these 2 twits.
Literally I’m from Gloucester as well and that’s all I hear
They won't get the ster part more sturdy, works for in Brits
So serial killers…
Mainly for a reason, and that is "serial" youtuber who "kills" it with her talent 😲💪💯
29:41 , that low key made my heart drop cause my moms name is heather ann.
“Who tf has six hamsters!?” GURL THATS NOT THAT MANY😭
YES IT IS
But still..😂
It is if they don’t have a very good and large habitat with a lot of hiding places
"bounce up and down on a bus drivers prndl" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 god you just crack me up sometimes!
Imagine that woman who got away from them reported and pushed harder with accusations, so many lives would be saved... This story gave me chills omg, so much pain
Kris is by far the best TH-camr and I’m so excited to see her cow👹🎀
I would appreciate subtitles at the bottom. Not forcing you, Kris, and Jay. Having subtitles helps me focus more on what you're saying, Kris, when you're doing these deep dives! Thanks 😊
The closed captions are pretty accurate if that helps 😊
@@harenhallharfootnot fully though. I try to watch with them, but without proper punctuation and sometimes correct words, it confuses me, and I can’t read properly without them..
@@baffledbatyou might be having issues with the closed captions because of all the changes in the words she had to do to make it possible to upload this video.
Like instead of suicide, Kris said “slewerslide” and the closed captions said slew slide. Otherwise the closed captions are pretty accurate when she isn’t having to make up words so it can be uploaded
Same
I love the way she says ‘buried’, so cute
The way she says bury gets me every time
The way you said Gloucester had me laughing :D
But no one told Kris it’s Gloss-ter!! I’ve lived in Edinburgh for a long time and am so used to folks from overseas calling it Edin-burgg, I don’t even care anymore!
same 😭
She got the "ster" bit right, which is a nice change. So often its a "chester".
"There's never mistakes in this channel, only happy little accidents" - Kris
@@ajports Today I learned...you don't pronounce it "-chester"...heh.
can we all just take second to appreciate all the effort Kris goes to to gather all the information and time she puts into these cases for us thankyou aunty Kris we love you
Was so shocked to see this one. Being British obviously it’s a huge reference for serial killers here. I’m so shocked but happy this was covered. Not many seem aware of them outside of the uk. This was so good to watch!
Same it’s weird all the murders u hear are from different country’s really so it’s an eye opener to say the least stay safe🥰
@@Mrs.salvitore123 yeah I grew up hearing of Fred and rose west haha. It was just mad to see it covered!
I remember this all blowing up.
I lived in Leeds near the Yorkshire Ripper murders, it would be fab to see Chris do a deep dive on him.
Fun fact... My father was one of the officers on the rippers case. Said it was one the most horrid cases he'd ever been involved in 😕
Same! I was really excited to hear kris talk about this one being from the uk myself. I’m hoping she covers the moors murders at some point as well 🤞
I met one of the police officers that worked on the case. He talked about his experience as a presentation.
He was one of the men that dug up the garden and the basement.
He met them and was handcuffed to Fred when he showed the police where he buried his ‘wife(?)’.
Also the fact that if they had dug in the other direction the first time, they would’ve found the body of their daughter that Fred had confessed to, and it probably would’ve ended there, and the other bodies may have never been found.
Edit: also, we have a family friend that worked as a prison officer, and worked in the prison Rose is/was kept. Apparently she was quite flirty.
Just looking her way out of jail
Oooooo, I have heard of serial killer couples, but never this one. These videos are always very entertaining and informative. Love tuning into your videos, Kris!
Your research is exceptional in terms of detail, and your updated information on these evil people is equally impressive.
I love that Kris whenever covering these horrific cases that she gives all her love and respect to the victims and the victims families ❤❤
Welcome to TX! Hope you are settling in!
I'm looking forward to an update of your trip down, and how Kevin is enjoying his new Siblings!
Again very well done and researched. I very much enjoy your work on these true crime stories. I like how you researched serial killers from other countries that we haven't heard of . Awesome!
“Given the 9 lives of a cat a birth”
Couldn’t agree less!
YES MORE KMK TRUE CRIME DOCUMENTARIES!!
This is one case I'd never heard of, so thanks Kris! Very well done!
“And landed right on his head.”
“Falling off the two story building and landing on his head.”
*moments before disaster*
This is one of the longest TH-cam videos. I have watched that was not a World War II documentary or a podcast with people that I look up to or want to hear from having said. Kris this was absolutely beautifully done. I was holding onto every second thanks.
Kris needs here own crime channel ❤
the consideration and remorse Kris gives to the victims is puts the human back in humanity ❤
LOVE YOU KRIS
Thank you so much for putting so much effort into these videos. I truly do enjoy it. They are so entertaining.
4:18 bro already looks like he’s plotting something 😂😂😂
I love Kris talking about these topics, she uses trigger warnings correctly and isn't disrespectful about anything
I love Kris sm she makes my day and I have loved true crime my whole life and being able to watch my favorite TH-camr and true crime at the same time is so amazing!
I never listen to true crime, but when Kris posts true crime stuff, I’m so interested in it. Love you Kris❤
As a bisexual person i think i speak for everyone when i say
WE DO 𝐍𝐎𝐓 CLAIM ROSE AS ONE OF US
You should also do an episode on Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo -another famous couple serial killers known as 'Ken and Barbie killers'. Its a messed up story
This is absolutely sad, i can tell the emotion kris goes through while reading these crimes, thank you for doing these for us!
Gloucester is just said as “gloss-ter”. I’m from Grimsby UK and that was one of the best attempts I’ve heard for trying to say that place name!
I also can’t read in a moving vehicle so I love audible too!
The wrapping the tape around their heads is I think where holly jackson got the inspiration for the third good girls guide to murder book
AYEEE MY FAVORITE SERIES IS BACK
Yep
YUHHHH
Ahhhhh
I am ur mother get off ur pH-neutral/iPad
"Yuhsss"
you're literally the only person i can focus on for an hour and actually consume all of the information, this is definitely one of my favorite series on youtube right now
Yesss a deep dive again!!! Can’t wait to see it, I love all your videos, but especially the deep dives 😍😃🫶
The way Kris says Gloucester is quite funny. I have friends who’s mothers lived on the same street as Rose west and knew her and their family. It’s crazy how close to me this all happened
This is such a sad case. I would 100% recommended watching the LADbible video “ living with britains most notorious serial killers “ it is a women talking who lived on the top floor of the house while this was happening. She talks about hearing the children screaming and actually went in to the basement but managed to a scape the house it is very interesting but heartbreaking ❤
Don’t lie who here is watching this with no socks 🧦
Me
You didn't need to call me out man😢
Me lol
me-
*Le sigh* me…
She’s one of the most underrated TH-camrs out there istg❤
8:57 “Or should I say 7 day KaRmA aM i RiGhT” omg 😂
Can I just say thanks to Kris for literally SAVING LIVES. With every video
posted at least one life is saved or talked down from SH. Thank you Kris ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Real. I would watch her anytime I wanted to sh. I started when I was 12 and stopped eventually. I'm now 15
Hey Kris hope you new home and relationship with Caleb goes smoothly and great! Have fun! We’ll support you no matter what! 🩵
I absolutely love when Kris does these true crime videos 😭 she’s so good at this she should make a podcast
I grew up with this case and I thought I knew all the details but you clearly worked hard on this as your research uncovered things I had never heard before. I hope you continue to create content around serious crimes as it was both interesting and informative.
I think a lot of people forget that they were called "Ogres" because back then, it was rare to be overweight. Nowadays, overweight people are everywhere. Back then, it was so rare that people were mocked for it, severely so. Hell, I think it was still relatively rare until the late 80s. It was the 90s when I noticed people getting larger.
Kris, you should keep doing this kind of content some people I know and myself find it amusing. Keep trying your best/ being resilient!!❤❤