@@NancyCole-n3q it is unbiblical for women to divorce. Moses only gave man the right to initiate the divorce and that for sexual uncleanness. Women never had the right to divorce. Since divorce is initiated by women 80% of the time, if coverture at common law was brought back, divorce would disappear almost completely over night.
I don't even believe that a marriage in church is required unless someone can show me a verse that says otherwise the word says to not separate that which God has put together not what the state or church has put together
@@PostMillMan but is there a verse in the Bible require it or is it simply a tradition now personally I believe that the belief that you must have the governments approval is idolatry
In the Old Testament, where we get a closer understanding of marriage, they did not get married “in the church.” They didn’t have marriages in the Old Testament. They would make a covenant together at home. The man would pay a bride price to the woman’s father. If he agreed, the man would pour the man’s daughter a cup of wine. If she drank from the cup, she accepted his offer for marriage. This was done at home. A year later
21:20 This would be an excellent way to show brotherly love to this corrupt misandric world of ours . But wait , is brotherly love still a thing when you make it all about the woman and spit on God's rules with no restraint ? If a pastor or priest supposed to be serving God (well , God knows who they really serve anyway ) does not stand up for his BELOVED brother's rights which are being trampled upon , then what does it tell about those clergymen ? I know a French Catholic man who was destroyed by those clergy men who talked his wife into divorcing him and harming him. Brotherly love ? Another thing struck me when I started to watch their marriage sermons on YT , looking for marriage information in the Anglosphere . It is the way they tell husbands to SUFFER from their wives . Oh my goodness ! I could not believe it. I remember Winger saying something like if your wife mistreats you , it is the way to show the love of Christ to her. How sadistic ! How cruel those clergy men ! Never a word of wisdom , of kindness , of love toward their brothers. Brotherly love ? Really ? They never quote the Bible which says to husbands ENJOY the wife of your youth Proverbs 5:18 Or the amazing Proverbs 31 woman who brings GOOD and NOT EVIL to her husband everyday of her life Proverbs 31:1 No . Never. So , how do you want such men to stand up for their brothers when they are in dire strait and show how much they love them ? It is quite scary.
Something struck me when I read the Old Testament : God never gave women the right to give their husbands a bill of divorce. If the man is the head of the marriage covenant , it is logical that he is the only one who can do the covenant or undo it. The only case of "abuse" (yet the word abuse repeated like a mantra today is not even in the passage) that we read is in Exodus 21:10. If the man refused to provide for another wife he decided to take to himself the three things (that were written on the Jewish ketubah) which were food , clothing and marital right (sex) , then he was considered as not being a husband to her , so she could go free . However , she was never told to stand up against him and say now I'm filing for divorce , here is my bill . Nowhere do we see that. Giving women the right to divorce means in fact giving women power over the head of the marriage covenant. The West has done that and the infiltrated church has followed up. And now you have legions of pastors who tell men to "man up" and be faithful to their covenant ! Is this a joke ? !! Who are those pastors or priests (Catholicism since Vatican II is awful on marriage) still going to fool but the simps afraid of themselves , afraid of their male indentity , of their authority and even of their sexuality ? Our western culture is screwed up and trying to adapt biblical principles to something so corrupt and twisted cannot work at all. It is spiritual adultery from a scriptural persective.
@@framboise595 you got it! I wrote a whole book on it. The bride price made the marriage unilateral. This also allowed men to have more than one wife (polygamy). If the women were allowed to divorce, polygamy would not be possible. Jesus never gave women the right to divorce. Moses only allowed the man the permission because he was the head, the authority, and had rule over his wife. She was bound to the law of her husband which prevented her from initiating a divorce, and to marry more than one husband at a time. The Greek word in Romans 7:2 is “under-man” for husband.
@@sonsofthunder7944 you shall set the slave with “free.” And not sell her for money. This is because she (the one who is likely to be neglected) (second wife) will still be treated as a Slave. You don’t set free a free wife, you put her away.
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11:37 Just horrible.
The love money as root of all evils .
If you want the divorce rate to plummet , just strip women of the right to divorce .
Blasphemy!!!
@@michaelsayen4360the cash and prizes for divorce are a huge problem
But not men?
@@NancyCole-n3q it is unbiblical for women to divorce. Moses only gave man the right to initiate the divorce and that for sexual uncleanness. Women never had the right to divorce. Since divorce is initiated by women 80% of the time, if coverture at common law was brought back, divorce would disappear almost completely over night.
@@NancyCole-n3qwomen were never given the right in the Bible to initiate a divorce. Only the men.
I don't even believe that a marriage in church is required unless someone can show me a verse that says otherwise the word says to not separate that which God has put together not what the state or church has put together
It's still probably a good idea to covenant before God and man in a church.
@@PostMillMan but is there a verse in the Bible require it or is it simply a tradition now personally I believe that the belief that you must have the governments approval is idolatry
In the Old Testament, where we get a closer understanding of marriage, they did not get married “in the church.” They didn’t have marriages in the Old Testament. They would make a covenant together at home. The man would pay a bride price to the woman’s father. If he agreed, the man would pour the man’s daughter a cup of wine. If she drank from the cup, she accepted his offer for marriage. This was done at home. A year later
@@sonsofthunder7944 I guess not
God honors all marriages. Regarless of race, religion, etc... As long as it does not violate God's law like same sex marriage (Lev. 21).
21:20 This would be an excellent way to show brotherly love to this corrupt misandric world of ours .
But wait , is brotherly love still a thing when you make it all about the woman and spit on God's rules with no restraint ?
If a pastor or priest supposed to be serving God (well , God knows who they really serve anyway ) does not stand up for his BELOVED brother's rights which are being trampled upon , then what does it tell about those clergymen ?
I know a French Catholic man who was destroyed by those clergy men who talked his wife into divorcing him and harming him.
Brotherly love ?
Another thing struck me when I started to watch their marriage sermons on YT , looking for marriage information in the Anglosphere . It is the way they tell husbands to SUFFER from their wives . Oh my goodness ! I could not believe it. I remember Winger saying something like if your wife mistreats you , it is the way to show the love of Christ to her.
How sadistic ! How cruel those clergy men !
Never a word of wisdom , of kindness , of love toward their brothers. Brotherly love ? Really ?
They never quote the Bible which says to husbands ENJOY the wife of your youth Proverbs 5:18
Or the amazing Proverbs 31 woman who brings GOOD and NOT EVIL to her husband everyday of her life Proverbs 31:1
No . Never.
So , how do you want such men to stand up for their brothers when they are in dire strait and show how much they love them ?
It is quite scary.
I believe these guys take pleasure out of suffering. They think the more you suffer the more holy you are.
Yes, I agree this would be a great way to show brotherly love.
Pastors are afraid of getting envolved in anything that is legal for fear of losing their tax emption status (501C3).
Women going to marriage counsellors , ie strangers instead of deferring to their husband should be labeled as adulterous.
It's spiritual adultery
Something struck me when I read the Old Testament : God never gave women the right to give their husbands a bill of divorce.
If the man is the head of the marriage covenant , it is logical that he is the only one who can do the covenant or undo it.
The only case of "abuse" (yet the word abuse repeated like a mantra today is not even in the passage) that we read is in Exodus 21:10.
If the man refused to provide for another wife he decided to take to himself the three things (that were written on the Jewish ketubah) which were food , clothing and marital right (sex) , then he was considered as not being a husband to her , so she could go free . However , she was never told to stand up against him and say now I'm filing for divorce , here is my bill . Nowhere do we see that.
Giving women the right to divorce means in fact giving women power over the head of the marriage covenant. The West has done that and the infiltrated church has followed up.
And now you have legions of pastors who tell men to "man up" and be faithful to their covenant ! Is this a joke ? !!
Who are those pastors or priests (Catholicism since Vatican II is awful on marriage) still going to fool but the simps afraid of themselves , afraid of their male indentity , of their authority and even of their sexuality ?
Our western culture is screwed up and trying to adapt biblical principles to something so corrupt and twisted cannot work at all. It is spiritual adultery from a scriptural persective.
@@framboise595 you got it! I wrote a whole book on it. The bride price made the marriage unilateral. This also allowed men to have more than one wife (polygamy). If the women were allowed to divorce, polygamy would not be possible. Jesus never gave women the right to divorce. Moses only allowed the man the permission because he was the head, the authority, and had rule over his wife. She was bound to the law of her husband which prevented her from initiating a divorce, and to marry more than one husband at a time. The Greek word in Romans 7:2 is “under-man” for husband.
@@framboise595 I was interviewed on this channel. Michael Sayen. Give me your email and will pass my book along to you in PDF
It says he shall not diminish totally different then refusing to and it for the first wife
@@sonsofthunder7944 you shall set the slave with “free.” And not sell her for money. This is because she (the one who is likely to be neglected) (second wife) will still be treated as a
Slave. You don’t set free a free wife, you put her away.
@@framboise595 for some reason I can't read the other 3 responses
Thank you St. Thomas Jefferson for the separation of church and state.
There is no such law or legal doctrine of the separation of church and State.
Women shouldn't divorce, but men are allowed to? Love the double standard.
Scripture has different rules for men and women.... ever read it?
Several times cover to cover. I have a minor in Bible. And I believe that sometimes divorce is very God honoring.
@@JenniferG-jm4rh well, I have a masters of divinity and the Bible teaches Patriarchy all throughout. If you can't see it, then you must be blind.