@@Steve-yu5pf I hate like yall are acting like Russ is this evil person lol, this is the same man that went to the seattle children's hospital every wednesday.
@@nosir7882 I know nothing about him as a person, my point is that contract rarely produces the desired outcome. Also no act of kindness is ever wasted.
. True. He seems like a good dude. Not his fault a team came throwing money at him. What was he supposed to say? Na. Seattle don't want me don't waste that much money on me when you can get me cheaper 😂
I love how the catchphrase "Let's Ride!" is now forever linked to this horrific era of Broncos football and will thus never be cool to unironically say.
The management is at fault when they overpay. It's not the player's fault for being overpaid. The problem of course with overpaying one player is that means you don't have the cap room to pay someone else.
I have had this argument so many times. Like the entire point of any job is to get paid as much as you can before you’re out. Why would these guys be any different? Especially in a career that has such a limited amount of time to get paid.
As a seahawks fan, its funny how this video is exactly how i felt back in 2019 through 2021. Apologies are accepted, god bless you Broncos Country and good luck.
I couldn’t agree more. Russ became so unbearable in those later years as a Seahawk. I was still sad to see him go, because he is a good person, but fame and money (and Ciara) really tainted his legacy at Seattle.
Same here I can't say I told you so loud enough every time players get gigantic contracts its over they stop playing they do okay but they got the money screw the rest Wilson was certainly no different his ego was bigger then his skills
What I like about Russell's game is that he's magical. That's why you come to the game to see. It's great to have a Quarterback that has his qualities. Stidham didn't do anything magical against the Chargers. He was really latargic if you ask my honest opinion. His touchdown pass was bad tackling more than anything. Take nothing away from him, but Stidham wasn't that spark that Payton talked about.
If I had a nickel for every time an AFC West team benched their starting QB for the last 2 games of the season for Jarrett Stidham I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice.
As a Seahawks fan, I can feel everything you’re saying about Russ. I loved him when we had him on that cheap rookie contract, but the moment we had pay him and take money away from other positions, all those exhilarating and also frustrating quarks of his, became unbearable to me. He’s a talented passer with some of the most perplexing decision making. Carroll knew his strengths and weaknesses better than anyone and got the most out of him. Not many coaches could do that, and clearly Payton isn’t looking to take on that project with an aging QB past his prime.
dude, shut the heck up, bashing a QB that won it all when he is not the problem is pathetic...the hawks and broncos identity was defense and running the ball...but poor drafts ruined both teams...
Ungratefully fanbase who went to 2 Super bowls with this guys "quirks". Giving you the ONLY championship you EVER got and may EVER get because your organization is mid at best. Teams who think like your team thinks run with Geno Smith at QB and miss the playoffs most seasons. You deserve losing for your ungrateful nature and complete lack of respect for the players who got you to the highest places. Russ on a contract vs Russ on a rookie contract is not how you look at players. You do not win that Super Bowl or compete for them at all without Russ and never did you win before or since without him. You had one lucky season where a great coach got you in with a Hasselbeck but Russ was the only QB you ever had that gave you a chance to win a championship and you started shitting on him over and over and over until you ran him out of town . This completely FAKE idea that somehow Russ is to blame for the Broncos making no showing this season is BS . I am not a fan of this franchise either as I follow a good franchise in the Packers. However i scout football and because I watch Russ in college in my home state I saw Russ in his college prime destroy everyone at that level. Russ was AMAZING and is one of the best throwers of the football in the history of the game. The Broncos benched him does not hold amazing meaning until it does . This might mean NOTHING . You being mad that you had to pay the guy who took you all the way twice is why your franchise will never win by design and will have to wait to LUCK into another 4th round QB who saves your franchise. Fans like you suck . You see the game in a way that is killing sports and I am assuming you also believe William Thomas is a woman and deserves to compete against women in their sport.
I don’t care what anyone says, I’ll forever be grateful for Russ making me fall in love with football as a young Seattle fan. Nobody’s perfect, only respect for this guy
@@PoopythePlumberSean Peyton came out of retirement to coach Russ. Where did you find your sources? There’s quite a few things you could say about Russ but that is straight up fan fiction bro.
Russ didn't call 3 fucking timeouts letting the Pats kick the game winning FG. Sean better have a plan at QB better than he did in that moment. Just sayin.
Sean Payton has not been the answer. I wish they would ship him out as well. He’s is also a has been. He literally has helped the other team several times this year with his stupid timeouts and mental mistakes.
@@SeanPageDrummer lmao you don’t know football. Payton isn’t even running the offensive scheme he wants to, because Russ can’t run it, can’t play on time.
@@stonedwall With a media mic in front of him, yeah. The issue is, he's entirely fake and basically running a script out there. Yeah, he's cool headed and composed, but even to his teammates he's a fake person. Honestly, that's the worst type of person in my opinion, beyond the sport and on a personal level. That said, we only see them in the media so it is nice to see him always sounding positive and mature for the cameras, so he's harder to hate than someone like Mahomes after his little outburst.
As a Seahawks fan that became a Perna fan after watching your content when Russ got traded, I’m still going to watch your content because I think you’re hilarious and make great videos!
As a Jets fan, I heard SP's name was being tossed around when Adam Gase was fired but I always wondered WHY??? He won a Super Bowl a decade ago (at the time Gase got fired...) and always choked in the playoffs after that....
I have a lot of respect for how Russell Wilson handled all the criticism while on the Broncos. Literally everybody came out of the woodwork and dawged him, he never had one cross word to say about them.
I’m not a Broncos fan, but looking at this from an outside perspective, the problem wasn’t trading for Russ. The trade could be justified by saying that the team had everything they needed for a deep playoff run (which appeared to be the case at the time of the trade). The real problem was signing him to that bloated contract before he even played a down for Denver. If last season highlighted anything, it’s that Denver had far more issues on the team than previously thought, including hiring one of the worst coaches in NFL history. But now it’s very difficult for the organization to fix said issues because of that disastrous contract, whereas they would have had less trouble fixing those issues now if Broncos brass had just watched things play out in 2022, fired Hackett, and admitted that the Wilson experiment did not work. EDIT: So apparently the Broncos organization informed Wilson’s reps in October that they were anticipating benching him at some point during the season. I’m not a Wilson fan or hater, but god damn, talk about destroying someone’s confidence.
Sean Payton is a great coach and his history and tape speaks for itself, he's just not a great Russell Wilson coach. He needs a regular pocket passing QB with a normal personality, which Russ is not. Payton is making a good move here by cutting it off now so he can win in the future.
Russ was an egotistical and limited QB. Seattle did well in hiding all the issues just like a car salesmen having to sell a lemon. It's like selling a BMW with 100k to someone who really wants one on the cheap. Broncos were trying to force history and were hoping Russ would be another Peyton Manning.
Feels like Payton and the Broncos organization isn't getting enough blame. Not Russ's fault that the Broncos gave him a massive contract extension before he even played a snap.
Yeh I mean Sean doesn't use Mclaughlin and he's got 5.6 yards per carry and Williams has 3.6 yards per carry. It's a team problem but no one will say that
I started watching your shows to just cackle insanely as Broncos fans eventually figured out what Seattle fans already knew about RW. There was also that feeling that Bronco games mattered because of those draft picks so I kept up with things. Now even with the trade frosting all gone, I'm still watching your shows because I like them. Keep up the great work!
I wonder how Flacco would do in Paytons system. As a Bronco fan, it's cool to see Flacco doing good but I wish they could have found that when he was here. RW is most likely gone but who's his replacement long term? I'm sure they will have a backup plan once he's gone. It won't be Stidham. He'll have a couple good games and get hopes up then fall apart as the season goes.... Back to reality.
The fact that people defend Russ then say Purdy is a system qb or check down merchant is wild. Russ doesn’t throw at all in the intermediate area because Payton doesn’t trust him, as those throws require decision making and anticipation. Almost ALL of Purdy’s passes are in the intermediate area, and is one of the best qb’s in the league at anticipation. The fact that Purdy has gained the complete trust of his play caller says more to me than anything
Perna videos and commentary is the best out there, ESPN at their peak would never be able to create one segment nearly as entertaining as anything Perna does on the regular (also Grossi)
Couldn't agree more. Pernas is what ESPN was when I was a kid but it's garbage now. Only found him cause I'm a Seahawks fan and the Wilson trade happened. Great channel!!
No they aren't, he is a bitter old man with delusional toughts of greatness but actually knows nothing outside of the box about the game, just the basics he learned from said ACTUAL jornalists.
@Nobody-su9km lmfao you are way off. This channel is hands down the best entertaining sports channel on TH-cam. Is he the most knowledgeable of all the channels? No, but he has some good insights and can tell it better than anyone out there so far.
@@devildolphin2102 They don't understand how much that effected the team, even Marshawn Lynch talked about that type of behavior being disruptive in Seattle.
Bronco fan an Huge Russell Wilson fan. Really enjoyed watching him play football his entire career - admittedly his stay in Denver has been turbulent. I definitely appreciate the honest take on Russ time in Denver And about his character/professionalism. Didn't work out, but I hope the best for Russ moving forward, and I'm curious about the next era of Bronco football.
I want to thank you for your segment on Russell Wilson's temperament. I've been working on a ranking of NFL quarterbacks who've started a currently undetermined number of games this season based on how well I think they'd do in Survivor. You discussing this aspect of Russell Wilson makes me strongly believe that in the game of Survivor, he'd be able to keep a cool head, bounce back from Tribal Council not going his way, and be a leader in both the tribe and in challenges. This ranking may also be one of the only rankings of quarterbacks this season that puts Russell Wilson above Patrick Mahomes.
As a seahawks fan and long time viewer I forgive you. I was one of those saying Pete knew how to use Russ. He's good rolling out because he's too short to see over the line. I like him and wish him well and was happy to have him in Seattle
Russ has been solid gold for your channel. I’ve been a longtime watcher waaaaay before the trade and I’m a Seahawks fan. This is the best move for the organization, if he got hurt you’d be screwed. It’ll be interesting to see his football future. And speaking of Future he lives in Atlanta, not sure Russ would want Ciara being that close to him😂😂😂
as a seahawks fan who found you long before the wilson trade i just gotta say nobody could have written a more unbelievably hilarious and entertaining script. thanks for taking it like a champ
26 tds to 8 int. 3,070 yards, 98.0 rating, 67% completion this year 16 td to 11ints last year under Hackett. Not sure Broncos are going to do any better
Yup - that was what he did at Seattle: kind of phoned it in until late in the third quarter. Sometimes it would result in a miraculous comeback, usually it wouldn't. He was great at chucking it down the sidelines, not so great at anything that had to be thrown over his O-line. Once teams figured that out, and became a bit slower, that was pretty much it for him. Plays for him have to be designed rollouts or playaction preceded by a dangerous running game. Kind of feel sorry for the guy, even as a Hawks fan - that said: NO YOU CAN'T HAVE PENIX HE'S OURS GDI
@@vadenk4433 my dude: I live in Seattle. I’m a Seahawks fan. When we started paying Russ more than the defense that won those games and got a revolving door at RB, we were often winning games in spite of Russ rather than because of him. So…yeah
@@DawnstealerGamingexactly bro like don’t get me wrong I will always appreciate what Russ did for the Seahawks but once it became “Russell’s team” that’s when everything changed
that same defense went to 2 straight 7-9 seasons before he came along, that same D was madeup of problem childs and convicted crimminals, that D was nothing witouth Russ and neither was mediocre Marshawn, Marshawn was a joke that entire seattle team was a joke before Russ and Bobby came in 2012 and team INSTANTLY went from 7 wins to 12, stop the cap, you love to create drama and media talks, but the numbers tell a very different story, winningest QB through first 9 seasons in history took seattle to the 2nd winningest franchise in the last decade and turned the whole team around, never talked sht on anybody, never complained never said anything y'all don't deserve the greatness he was both on and off the field 12IQs fanbase.@@DawnstealerGaming
I truly don't understand why Sean Payton took this job if he never wanted Wilson. The cap costs of getting rid of Wilson will hurt the team for awhile and for all we know, Payton is gone after 3 losing seasons with the team. I'm a Seattle fan so I kinda hate to see Wilson's career trajectory going this way. Who knows...maybe he'll follow in the footsteps of Bobby Wagner and Marshawn Lynch for an unexpected return to the PNW. And somehow sit behind Drew Lock on the depth chart.
I’ve seen some confusion on this move because Russ’s stats look superficially “good” but it’s really just the very nice TD:INT ratio. The biggest thing that you can see from the stats is that Russ just doesn’t throw for big yardage anymore (and that wasn’t never his best skill anyway). Just over 3,000 yards in 15 games is very mediocre in today’s NFL and though his running has also bounced back a bit from the last couple seasons, it’s not enough to offset the overall lack of production. As Perna knows from watching him, Russ basically can never string together a full game and goes completely dead for about two quarters every game. He’s basically a top end game manager, but that’s not likely to win you a Super Bowl or be worth anything close to the money he’s owed.
@@timjones147True, but what’s the point? If we’re going by wins, Russ is 11-19 as the Broncos QB. 17-27 over his last three, 29-31 over his last 4 (though I feel like citing his last two years with the Seahawks is way more irrelevant than his season stats). Statistics don’t win games, but they are a record of a player’s production, and the sad fact for Russell is that he just isn’t that productive anymore. The best case that he hasn’t declined is that he still leads the NFL in 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives (with 4), but I think many Broncos fans would argue that they wouldn’t have needed him to have those comebacks if the offense would have produced more earlier in the game.
Green Bay Packers: "Hey, lets bench our star cornerback the next game, so we don't want to make the playoffs." Denver Broncos: "Hold my beer (lets ride)!"
@@stefanjoeres7149 Broncos have not been eliminated from playoff contention. Need some help....teams to lose here or there but they are still in it. In fact, they can still win their division if the Chiefs lose out and Raiders lose one.
Russ is just the scapegoat. Im a diehard saints fan and Ive been saying for years that Sean Payton is a total fraud. That man wasted Drew Brees's career
I really like your analysis on RW's play. You're right, it's complicated. I've never watched a QB before that was so dependent on the people around him, both players & coaches.
Benching Russell Wilson is a blatant attempt by Payton to avoid owning up to the fact his playcalling is absolute ASS. As for "hasn't been very good" well you try being good behind the Broncos o-line. Is he perfect? No. But those hundred sacks weren't solely because of Russ. If any team deserves to lose 2 in a row after a pull like this, it's the Broncos.
@@mattipps That argument isn't any more valid than it was when he played for the Hawks. When the O-line is letting the other side's defense get to him all the time, he's going to get sacked a lot.
As a Hawks fan, we saw his decline here in his last few years. He was dangerous because he can run away from danger and had big arm for rainbow bombs. His age and height caught up to him along with his contract and stupid persona.
Can't lie, I've never been happy that Denver traded for Wilson. I would have preferred to see if Drew Lock could have improved with a coach that was willing to work with him, as opposed to a coach that didn't like, if not hated, him, ie Fangio. But we traded for Wilson. And while Russ has had a few decent games, he is still holding on to the ball for far too long, clearly can't see the middle of the field, and has developed a bad habit of fumbling the ball.
Russell hasn't been great but the Offensive line is AWFUL and The WR's aren't very good either....... Does Sean Payton take any of the blame for the game passing him bye? Sean Payton has become so predictable it's not even funny.....
Not gonna lie, Sean Payton’s offensive play calling is pretty awful. Never understood calling 2 screens and then running the ball of 3rd and 7. Watching the Broncos offense is like watching paint dry.
I’m gonna miss the Russ Denver days The chaos, the Broncos country memes, the 2nd half turnaround this season where they got to cooking, I just thought they were gonna try and tank this year considering how sad last year was
It's depressing seeing us give up on the playoffs. I get it's a money move but still. Stidham is not going to fair well behind that line and especially if Payton is going to call outside screens all game. But mostly this needs to he a fairwell to Paton as we clear out his mistakes. He's made some really bad decisions as out GM.
Lol as a Chargers fan, I bet Stidham will have a career performance against our awful defense. And by all means, let it happen. We've been embracing the tank for weeks now
The line is fine. Did you even watch the games? Russ consistently panicked and ran out of clean pockets and the only reason Payton called outside screens all game is because that's all he trusted Russ with.
@@MikeDMinor There is not a QB in the league that can see over the line.....OL's are tall people. Even a tall QB does not have eyeballs on the top of their head.
@tylerjohnson2027 a 6' 3 QB has a much better chance of seeing over the o-)line than a 5' 10 one... remember at a scrimmage the O-line isn't always standing straight up.
Falcons aren’t a bad idea for Russ, but actually, I think the Steelers would be a great idea. Just have him get the ball deep to Pickens a few times a game, they retool their run game, and it could work.
For my Steelers to pick up that amount of payroll we’d have to jettison 2 of our QB ‘s. Personally I think Rudolph would serve about as well . Lots of players moving in the offseason but Wilson commands a high price for unproven success. Time will tell
Nobody wants to pay that much cash for a Mediocre QB. Especially considering all the promising rookies coming on the scene and Reliable QBs soon for draft and trades.
His greatest flaw is he is corny... yet we pile on him like he has been a disaster on and off the field. I absolutely loved watching him play with the Seahawks. Always felt like something awesome was about to happen. Those early teams were an absolute dream to watch as a fan. He was easy to like late round pick playing great football, he was an underdog... then team 3 rolled in and things took a turn. A lot of that corny underdog behavior started to look like a corporate brand and many people started to sour on him. It was a miscalculation he has been chasing for nearly 5 years. He doesn't deserve any hate.
I don't feel sympathy for Russ because he wanted out of a perfect situation. He could've taken a pay cut in seattle and played 5-7 more years, but no he wanted to be treated like Brady without the accountability. I hope he never plays another down of football.
As a redskins fan i was really glad we didn't go for Russ i just knew he was to far past his prime to carry a team. That being said he really does seem like the most professional and respectable quarterback in the league
I honestly think the Broncos need to try to figure it out with Wilson because a trade it unlikely and cutting him is not a viable option. They’re kind of stuck with him unless they want to suck for a couple of years. I would try to build around him until it’s economical to cut him.
Russ has always been an amazing deep ball passer. He's also always been a guy who holds the ball way too long and was truly only at his very best when the O-line was able to move the pocket for him. Because for whatever reason (his height, honestly) he can't just stand in the pocket and find open receivers or even pass them open. Seattle certainly thanks you for taking him off our hands. For what it's worth, I don't want Denver to fail because Russ is/was there since it holds no benefit for Seattle anymore. I just want Denver to fail because I can't stand Sean Payton. But good luck I guess. Neither of us is going anywhere this year regardless :)
As a Seahawks fan After Russ was traded i was fallowing Russ of course to see who won the trade and i had a lot fun because u can see clearly who won the trade! Because of this it lead me to perna channel who is simply put one of the best nfl channel out there! And i have been following and will continue to do because is so funny and informative at the same time! Keep it up buddy and good luck.
I don't blame Russell Wilson at all! At first, I did, but seeing the 16-point deficit against the Patriots vanish I no longer do. Sean was forced to call pass plays and other than a few unnecessary bombs Russell Wilson responded perfectly! Before that it was run run pass with a screen here or there. If Sean kicked the FG in first quarter we win. I don't believe Sean was playing to win this entire year. If Wilson was really the problem, and if they really wanted to win they would have benched him earlier.
I don't trust the NFL anymore. All the bad calls have gotten worse this year and many teams have lost games because of it. There is no accountability with the referees because they are doing exactly what the NFL wants them to do. This NFL sucks!
As a seahawks fan I only found your channel because if the trade. Staying even now he's done. Great channel, my friend. Love your stuff. Be well and take care.
I’m gonna miss Russ. He was unbearable to watch sometimes, but when he cooked, it was magical. I salute you mate, but now it’s Jarrett Studham time in Denver.
70 points got scored against us in a single game this year ... That was Russ? Think Sean may be better at running dark money bounty games then football games.
In his last year with the Seahawks, Russ got criticized by Pete and actually fought back on one aspect of his play (the only time he talked back to criticism). Russ is too confident in his ability to scramble. I remember watching him be fairly uncatchable when he got outside of the pocket and it's in those moments that he hardly ever looked to just run forward himself. That's likely what kept him healthy compared to most other mobile QBs. But in his last year with the Seahawks, his declining mobility with age was clear in how he would still keep trying those little U-turn moves to try and evade defenders. It wouldn't help him escape the likes of Aaron Donald, for an example. I watched a Broncos game where I watched him still trying to do that while a defender was already on top of him, and again, it didn't work. He takes some key sacks trying to extend a play he just cannot extend like he used to. He'll make a good backup for some team, but he definitely needs to watch some games from the sidelines.
I was figuring he wouldn't excel in Denver, unfortunately. Russ' style of play (where he dances around and delays so receivers can get open) only works with good blocking. Seattle could never get a good o-line because they always drafted too late, so his success didn't last. Denver did not have a much better o-line than Seattle did when Wilson left there. So I was skeptical that he'd be able to recapture what he had in the early days of his career (when Seattle had one of the best o-lines).
Seattle drafted too late ? Or just traded away 1st round draft picks and traded for the likes of Okung who was a swing door. No excuses at all for that OL, they chose to ignore it for years.
@@gourami7 They had years and years of getting ~10 win seasons and losing early in the playoffs. The best way to get a good o lineman is in the draft, and those don’t stick around until pick 20-32. Immediately after the Wilson trade, when Seattle finally had picks, they got 2 starters.
I told everyone the day it happened. Russ was going to be garbage because he lost the step and he’s not tall enough to see over the line. so unless he scrambling, he cannot see the middle of the field. He’s constantly running himself into sacks and missing wide open throws and that drives coaches crazy
The fact of the matter is that a lot of Russell's career were hollow stats. So so so many 3 and outs forgotten because of some beautiful highlight scramble. I understand wanting to give Russ credit from improving upon last season, but I also think that means you need to hold him accountable for being so awful last season. People like to take the lazy route and say it was mostly on hackett, but what was a first year head coach supposed to do when someone that national media perceived as a future HOFer came in, and was given the promise and power to significantly influence the offensive play design. What do you do when that person thinks he can play like brady, but he is below average in a clean pocket? Let alone one that starts to feel a little pressure, where the great qbs would start making micro adjustments, wilson's eyes just drop and he starts spinning and doing all sorts of random stuff. I am not saying hackett is a good head coach, but when you aren't given the authority, and you have a giant fraud given all this power to do whatever he wants, you aren't going to be able to get the rest of the players to believe you're the guy in charge. Now imagine hackett's position, which is in some ways similar to Payton in that, they both have experienced elite QB play, and then have had to move to a phony QB that can't play on schedule. At least Payton had the advantage of having the clout, and Wilson being humiliated last year so that he could become more coachable and stop imagining he was on the brady-tier. I also think you give him too much credit for how he handles controversy... you just haven't gotten to experience it yet in denver, but wait until team 3 starts their smear campaign of the broncos org with various leaks to swing the public in Wilson's corner and paint the broncos as evil. He's got all sorts of dirt on his past but people just don't care... like having one of the worst charities of all the walter payton men of the year. Him going to atlanta would be good for him, his wife has a connection to ATL, and it's a weak division for him to feast in. I don't think the 5% or whatever chance to make the playoffs is as bad as it looks, there are a lot of games the broncos need to go their way that are not unrealistic. Edit: Lol just saw someone mentioning Russ liking tweets related to anonymous reports about being "threatened" with a benching if he didn't renegotiate his injury guarantees. The Team 3 smear campaign has begun.
@teamdinosaurs999 saying much of his career stats are hollow is just a horrendous take. You and others seem to forget that he won a Super Bowl with Seattle and it also took him nearly a decade before having a losing season. He had several years where he made milestones for most wins by a quarterback to start a career. In Seattle he also averaged damn near 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns a season with less than 10 picks. Russ may not have been an elite pocket passer or great rhythm passer because of his size but in his prime he was still a damn good quarterback with elite stats for years
@@mylespoun9709 Only to people that don't understand football. He got hard carried by a historic defense that held teams to 13.3ppg in the playoffs and a fringe HOF caliber RB. People like you won't understand because you probably can't grasp how his stats this season are hollow either. Let alone comprehend how a player could do that for most of their career. But notice that once that historic defense went away the seahawks were no longer real contenders. That's cause of hollow stats and a way of playing that is not effective vs playoff caliber teams. There's also a reason he never got a single mvp vote.
What is a HOF QB supposed to do with a massively incompetent rookie head coach who can’t run an offense? And what HOF QB has ever had to deal with that? Russ carried the Seahawks for years, and the smear campaign you’re referring to has been confirmed by Denver media. So just say you don’t like Russ.
@@teamdinosaurs999 What a stupid argument you made and worst of all you are arrogant about your horrendous point. No sh*t the team is no longer a contender when half the side of the ball sucks. Seattle has not had a top 15 defense since 2018 and we are almost in 2024. Russ and the offense carried some bad defenses for years after the LOB ended.
Am sad !!!!!!!! Am a Seahawks fan and got into everthing with Brocnos ! I thought this year they would will 10,11 games am sad . Also how good of a coach is Pete caroll for winning
It's honestly kind of sad Sean Payton basically wasted what was left of Russ's time in his prime by basically just trying to copy and paste in Drew Brees.
As a Seahawk fan I was watching Russ show up in a clown suit and being in a jovial mode after losing his first game as a Bronco. I was thinking that I am so happy we traded him.
Hopefully Sean gets your team figured out, the division looks as open as it's been for quite awhile. Best wishes Brandon, you deserve some good football.
@@bsmith8943 that's very likely but when has the Chiefs looked this vulnerable? Wouldn't be smart to stand around with their dicks in their hands if there is any chance you don't just bounce back.
they are fucked if story is true nflpa is going make sure no fucking player sign to denver for risk they will force you to waive your injury guarantees
Sean can't pick a QB to save his life, he got lucky with Brees and couldn't do anything after that. Dude was developing Taysom Hill into a QB, What bad idea that was.
Ive been a Seahawks hate watcher of the Broncos last two years but what you said about Russ was spot on I like hating Russ the player but its impossible to hate Russ the man and when you started that speech I thought yeah Russ and Dak seem like great guys but I hate watching them play football and want them to lose lol
With Sean doing this, I imagine there is going to be a huge distrust in the organization. At any certain time you can be cut from your contract just because your coach doesn’t like you. I also imagine many free agents will not be going to the Broncos cause of this. Can’t trust a coach to have your back, you don’t go to that coach. Even if Russ is booty he should have been played the last two games as respect.
As a Saints fan... trust in what Payton is doing. Yeah dude has a strong personality but there's a method to his madness. We miss him as coach as Saints fans
I don't know how to tell you this, but you're not getting Jayden Daniels, ask any Saints fan, Sean Payton hates LSU, he never drafts LSU, people down here have been begging him to draft LSU for his entire tenure here, and he never does. You're going to be trading for Sean Payton's one true love in football: Taysom Hill lol
I don't know why this situation would play out any differently than the Carr situation last year. Why trade for a player when their team has already signaled that they're going to cut him? It's not like Wilson hitting the open market is going to dictate a higher contract than the one he already has
Gotta admit, you’re right. He never blamed anybody else and stayed professional.
Not that hard with that contract.
Mahomes got more money and is crying on the sidelines and to the refs??? Apparently it's not that easy huh? Always gotta hate.@@Steve-yu5pf
@@Steve-yu5pf I hate like yall are acting like Russ is this evil person lol, this is the same man that went to the seattle children's hospital every wednesday.
@@nosir7882 I know nothing about him as a person, my point is that contract rarely produces the desired outcome. Also no act of kindness is ever wasted.
. True. He seems like a good dude. Not his fault a team came throwing money at him. What was he supposed to say? Na. Seattle don't want me don't waste that much money on me when you can get me cheaper 😂
I love how the catchphrase "Let's Ride!" is now forever linked to this horrific era of Broncos football and will thus never be cool to unironically say.
"Let's ride!"
"Ugh..."
It supplanted have the "time of our lives"
Apology accepted
Sincerely, a Seahawks fan
It'll live up there along with, "How about 'dem boyz!!!" xD
Broncos country, go cry 😂
It will always boggle my mind when players get blamed for being overpaid. If your team gets finessed, blame the management
The management is at fault when they overpay. It's not the player's fault for being overpaid. The problem of course with overpaying one player is that means you don't have the cap room to pay someone else.
Exactly. Lol. No o e ever blames the management or the owners.
That's a great point. You pay someone based on potential. In that sense, players can't be "overpaid" but they can under perform.
I have had this argument so many times. Like the entire point of any job is to get paid as much as you can before you’re out. Why would these guys be any different? Especially in a career that has such a limited amount of time to get paid.
Tom Brady never did this and it paid off for him in the end.
As a seahawks fan, its funny how this video is exactly how i felt back in 2019 through 2021. Apologies are accepted, god bless you Broncos Country and good luck.
I couldn’t agree more. Russ became so unbearable in those later years as a Seahawk. I was still sad to see him go, because he is a good person, but fame and money (and Ciara) really tainted his legacy at Seattle.
@@corbinrasmussen Apologies...for what? You got how many draft picks from us? The ones who got fleeced don't need to apologize.
@@reidgrandchamp774y’all were massive dickheads about the trade lmao. Perna was the worst. We’ve enjoyed your suffering. The apology clears the air.
Rams & 9ers are still the Seachickens Daddy's even with all those picks
2019??? Russ was amazing that year.
As a Seahawks fan, finding this channel was the best part of the Russell Wilson trade!!
The draft picks were pretty nice though
Damn y’all still get burned by the niners lol
Just to have the same record as the Broncos lol.
Same here I can't say I told you so loud enough every time players get gigantic contracts its over they stop playing they do okay but they got the money screw the rest Wilson was certainly no different his ego was bigger then his skills
What I like about Russell's game is that he's magical. That's why you come to the game to see. It's great to have a Quarterback that has his qualities.
Stidham didn't do anything magical against the Chargers. He was really latargic if you ask my honest opinion.
His touchdown pass was bad tackling more than anything. Take nothing away from him, but Stidham wasn't that spark that Payton talked about.
If I had a nickel for every time an AFC West team benched their starting QB for the last 2 games of the season for Jarrett Stidham I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice.
Add 2 to that you'd have the amount of wins my Patriots got this year which isn't a lot but it's not weird it happened 😂
I fucking hate this meme. Not only is it incredibly unoriginal, it's pretty dumb, and unexplanatory.
@Earthboundmike So?... The meme was original on Phineas & Ferb, and it happens to correlate with an everyday situation
As a Seahawks fan, I can feel everything you’re saying about Russ. I loved him when we had him on that cheap rookie contract, but the moment we had pay him and take money away from other positions, all those exhilarating and also frustrating quarks of his, became unbearable to me. He’s a talented passer with some of the most perplexing decision making. Carroll knew his strengths and weaknesses better than anyone and got the most out of him. Not many coaches could do that, and clearly Payton isn’t looking to take on that project with an aging QB past his prime.
Russ' decline came when he started caring about Team Wilson more than he cared about the actual football team he was on.
dude, shut the heck up, bashing a QB that won it all when he is not the problem is pathetic...the hawks and broncos identity was defense and running the ball...but poor drafts ruined both teams...
@@JUDALATIONhe won it on the back of the Lob
Ungratefully fanbase who went to 2 Super bowls with this guys "quirks". Giving you the ONLY championship you EVER got and may EVER get because your organization is mid at best. Teams who think like your team thinks run with Geno Smith at QB and miss the playoffs most seasons. You deserve losing for your ungrateful nature and complete lack of respect for the players who got you to the highest places.
Russ on a contract vs Russ on a rookie contract is not how you look at players. You do not win that Super Bowl or compete for them at all without Russ and never did you win before or since without him. You had one lucky season where a great coach got you in with a Hasselbeck but Russ was the only QB you ever had that gave you a chance to win a championship and you started shitting on him over and over and over until you ran him out of town . This completely FAKE idea that somehow Russ is to blame for the Broncos making no showing this season is BS . I am not a fan of this franchise either as I follow a good franchise in the Packers. However i scout football and because I watch Russ in college in my home state I saw Russ in his college prime destroy everyone at that level. Russ was AMAZING and is one of the best throwers of the football in the history of the game. The Broncos benched him does not hold amazing meaning until it does . This might mean NOTHING . You being mad that you had to pay the guy who took you all the way twice is why your franchise will never win by design and will have to wait to LUCK into another 4th round QB who saves your franchise. Fans like you suck . You see the game in a way that is killing sports and I am assuming you also believe William Thomas is a woman and deserves to compete against women in their sport.
@@JUDALATIONhe literally had one of the best defences of all time what are you saying
I don’t care what anyone says, I’ll forever be grateful for Russ making me fall in love with football as a young Seattle fan. Nobody’s perfect, only respect for this guy
Forget him he wanted to leave and wanted to replace Pete with Sean who coincidentally never liked Russ that’s what he gets for not having loyalty
@@PoopythePlumber😂 litgle bro is getting emotional calm down
@@PoopythePlumberSean Peyton came out of retirement to coach Russ. Where did you find your sources? There’s quite a few things you could say about Russ but that is straight up fan fiction bro.
He shit on you and me and the rest of the fanbase on his way out. 3 was on track to be up in the rafters of CLink...but now, fuck that fake ass dude.
@@PoopythePlumbertbh anyone would rather have Sean Payton instead of Pete. Whether they like you or not
He said, "He's an off schedule improviser like Ryan Stiles or Wayne Bra... no, Ryan Stiles." 😂
Russ didn't call 3 fucking timeouts letting the Pats kick the game winning FG. Sean better have a plan at QB better than he did in that moment. Just sayin.
He didn’t play QB well either
@@InUteroKDC Tell me you don't watch football without telling me you don't watch football.
@@aaron-nWell you are right so is the other guy Sean should be on the hot seat but sadly Russ is to old for his style
Sean Payton has not been the answer. I wish they would ship him out as well. He’s is also a has been. He literally has helped the other team several times this year with his stupid timeouts and mental mistakes.
@@SeanPageDrummer lmao you don’t know football. Payton isn’t even running the offensive scheme he wants to, because Russ can’t run it, can’t play on time.
Funny how we never really left the QB carousel 🤡.
Neither have we
As a Commanders fan I say Hold My Beer!
You guys need to trade back Drew Lock and give him a real chance. The dude did well in that comeback win and showed that swag.
Bro EXACTLY
he literally had 0 TDs and 70 yards up until that drive, actually watch the game next time.@@AR9Legend
good job pointing out that he did not act like a child. we need more of that in the world these days.
Facts
$50 Million contract and he failed. But, as a 35 years old Man, he acted like an adult so it's all good. Got it.
@@The-Contractorthat means he’s better than mahomes, right? right?!?!
@@stonedwall With a media mic in front of him, yeah. The issue is, he's entirely fake and basically running a script out there. Yeah, he's cool headed and composed, but even to his teammates he's a fake person. Honestly, that's the worst type of person in my opinion, beyond the sport and on a personal level. That said, we only see them in the media so it is nice to see him always sounding positive and mature for the cameras, so he's harder to hate than someone like Mahomes after his little outburst.
@@stonedwall 100%. Mahomes would have to level up just to qualify as a punk.
As a Seahawks fan that became a Perna fan after watching your content when Russ got traded, I’m still going to watch your content because I think you’re hilarious and make great videos!
Sean Payton been living off of 2009 for too damn long.....he's the Aaron Rodgers of coaching
Well put. He’s always there to get beat in the first round
Dude's been coasting off the SB onside kick for 15 years.
As a Jets fan, I heard SP's name was being tossed around when Adam Gase was fired but I always wondered WHY??? He won a Super Bowl a decade ago (at the time Gase got fired...) and always choked in the playoffs after that....
McCarthy and Tomlin
I have a lot of respect for how Russell Wilson handled all the criticism while on the Broncos. Literally everybody came out of the woodwork and dawged him, he never had one cross word to say about them.
$50 million contract, he hasn't performed and has caught some heat. But he's not making a scene so it's all good. Got it.
@@The-Contractor Cry about it
When you show up and get that contract, have your own office,
You probably shouldn’t suck @ss
@@thomaskaley70 Got **Boo-Boo** on your feelings?
@@The-Contractorstop blaming Russ. Teams trash as a whole and y'all want to blame 1 person
I’m not a Broncos fan, but looking at this from an outside perspective, the problem wasn’t trading for Russ. The trade could be justified by saying that the team had everything they needed for a deep playoff run (which appeared to be the case at the time of the trade). The real problem was signing him to that bloated contract before he even played a down for Denver. If last season highlighted anything, it’s that Denver had far more issues on the team than previously thought, including hiring one of the worst coaches in NFL history. But now it’s very difficult for the organization to fix said issues because of that disastrous contract, whereas they would have had less trouble fixing those issues now if Broncos brass had just watched things play out in 2022, fired Hackett, and admitted that the Wilson experiment did not work.
EDIT: So apparently the Broncos organization informed Wilson’s reps in October that they were anticipating benching him at some point during the season. I’m not a Wilson fan or hater, but god damn, talk about destroying someone’s confidence.
Very very well said
Sean Payton is a great coach and his history and tape speaks for itself, he's just not a great Russell Wilson coach. He needs a regular pocket passing QB with a normal personality, which Russ is not. Payton is making a good move here by cutting it off now so he can win in the future.
Cardinals fans feel the same with Kyler Murray after their playoff blowout loss last year and then a bloated contract followed by ACL injury.
@@lemmyelk Pairing Payton with Wilson felt like an attempt to fit a square peg into a round hole.
Russ was an egotistical and limited QB. Seattle did well in hiding all the issues just like a car salesmen having to sell a lemon. It's like selling a BMW with 100k to someone who really wants one on the cheap.
Broncos were trying to force history and were hoping Russ would be another Peyton Manning.
Feels like Payton and the Broncos organization isn't getting enough blame. Not Russ's fault that the Broncos gave him a massive contract extension before he even played a snap.
I knew it would not them in the ass
That's not seans problem. They brought him here to fix it. He's in the process of that.
Yeh I mean Sean doesn't use Mclaughlin and he's got 5.6 yards per carry and Williams has 3.6 yards per carry. It's a team problem but no one will say that
@@kudosayala4943 Sean Payton is not the one to be rebuilding a franchise he's NOT good for that at all.
Payton been there one year. Russ two. There’s no fkn way Payton deserves more fault than russ
I started watching your shows to just cackle insanely as Broncos fans eventually figured out what Seattle fans already knew about RW. There was also that feeling that Bronco games mattered because of those draft picks so I kept up with things. Now even with the trade frosting all gone, I'm still watching your shows because I like them. Keep up the great work!
I'm another that came for the schadenfreude and stayed for the schadenfreude.
Same. Came to follow the debacle that became Russ, and stayed for the hilarious, on-point commentary. It's a great channel, I think.
Add me to the list!!
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I wonder how Flacco would do in Paytons system. As a Bronco fan, it's cool to see Flacco doing good but I wish they could have found that when he was here. RW is most likely gone but who's his replacement long term? I'm sure they will have a backup plan once he's gone. It won't be Stidham. He'll have a couple good games and get hopes up then fall apart as the season goes.... Back to reality.
The fact that people defend Russ then say Purdy is a system qb or check down merchant is wild. Russ doesn’t throw at all in the intermediate area because Payton doesn’t trust him, as those throws require decision making and anticipation. Almost ALL of Purdy’s passes are in the intermediate area, and is one of the best qb’s in the league at anticipation. The fact that Purdy has gained the complete trust of his play caller says more to me than anything
I’m sorry Brandon
Perna videos and commentary is the best out there, ESPN at their peak would never be able to create one segment nearly as entertaining as anything Perna does on the regular (also Grossi)
Couldn't agree more. Pernas is what ESPN was when I was a kid but it's garbage now. Only found him cause I'm a Seahawks fan and the Wilson trade happened. Great channel!!
No they aren't, he is a bitter old man with delusional toughts of greatness but actually knows nothing outside of the box about the game, just the basics he learned from said ACTUAL jornalists.
@@Nobody-su9km yet here you are supporting his channel by clicking on his videos and leaving comments
@Nobody-su9km lmfao you are way off. This channel is hands down the best entertaining sports channel on TH-cam. Is he the most knowledgeable of all the channels? No, but he has some good insights and can tell it better than anyone out there so far.
Only thing perna is wrong about here is his Ryan stiles take. That man and Colin mochrie carried that show!
Russ is one of the most admirable and respectable humans in the NFL world. Really rooting for him. He deserves the best.
I love Russ, which he was my QB for the Jets. I don't mind seeing him as a G-Men
@@pa.encema2821huh?!?
He seems like a good dude. I was rooting for him and I'm not a fan(nor hater)
Yeah after the Private Office and Other crap he pulled over the past 2 years he can take his Ego and shove off
@@devildolphin2102 They don't understand how much that effected the team, even Marshawn Lynch talked about that type of behavior being disruptive in Seattle.
Bronco fan an Huge Russell Wilson fan. Really enjoyed watching him play football his entire career - admittedly his stay in Denver has been turbulent. I definitely appreciate the honest take on Russ time in Denver And about his character/professionalism. Didn't work out, but I hope the best for Russ moving forward, and I'm curious about the next era of Bronco football.
I want to thank you for your segment on Russell Wilson's temperament. I've been working on a ranking of NFL quarterbacks who've started a currently undetermined number of games this season based on how well I think they'd do in Survivor. You discussing this aspect of Russell Wilson makes me strongly believe that in the game of Survivor, he'd be able to keep a cool head, bounce back from Tribal Council not going his way, and be a leader in both the tribe and in challenges. This ranking may also be one of the only rankings of quarterbacks this season that puts Russell Wilson above Patrick Mahomes.
As a seahawks fan and long time viewer I forgive you. I was one of those saying Pete knew how to use Russ. He's good rolling out because he's too short to see over the line. I like him and wish him well and was happy to have him in Seattle
Sean Paytons dream of making Taysom Hill his starting QB will be realized next year
Naw russ is staying u delusional if u think otherwise 😂
@@austingonzales3948lets hope not both of these guys are bad
@@eddiecastro8227 you know russ is staying at least one more year I already feel it
@@austingonzales3948.....GOOD GAWD, DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO SPEAK!!!!! JUST WHAT IS WRONG WIT CHU MATE!!!!
As long as he doesn't make russ money.
One thing for certain is Russ still has one of the best deep throws in the league.
True, but Flacco has now come to the table
Russ has been solid gold for your channel. I’ve been a longtime watcher waaaaay before the trade and I’m a Seahawks fan. This is the best move for the organization, if he got hurt you’d be screwed. It’ll be interesting to see his football future. And speaking of Future he lives in Atlanta, not sure Russ would want Ciara being that close to him😂😂😂
as a seahawks fan who found you long before the wilson trade i just gotta say nobody could have written a more unbelievably hilarious and entertaining script. thanks for taking it like a champ
26 tds to 8 int. 3,070 yards, 98.0 rating, 67% completion this year 16 td to 11ints last year under Hackett. Not sure Broncos are going to do any better
With a new qb anything is possible
not, it isn't the only thing this swap made possible is they actually losing to the chargers now.@@D_Corleone
@@Nobody-su9km
I mean we have a 6% chance to do anything i rather look foward to next years team hopefully with a new young Qb who can play
Those are solid numbers for a QB, how come the broncos can't win.
Yup - that was what he did at Seattle: kind of phoned it in until late in the third quarter. Sometimes it would result in a miraculous comeback, usually it wouldn't. He was great at chucking it down the sidelines, not so great at anything that had to be thrown over his O-line. Once teams figured that out, and became a bit slower, that was pretty much it for him. Plays for him have to be designed rollouts or playaction preceded by a dangerous running game. Kind of feel sorry for the guy, even as a Hawks fan - that said: NO YOU CAN'T HAVE PENIX HE'S OURS GDI
Usually it wouldn't? All Seattle did was win for a decade with Russ. Look at his record in Seattle.
@@vadenk4433 my dude: I live in Seattle. I’m a Seahawks fan. When we started paying Russ more than the defense that won those games and got a revolving door at RB, we were often winning games in spite of Russ rather than because of him. So…yeah
@@DawnstealerGamingexactly bro like don’t get me wrong I will always appreciate what Russ did for the Seahawks but once it became “Russell’s team” that’s when everything changed
Sadly, Russ cant see over his o-line.
that same defense went to 2 straight 7-9 seasons before he came along, that same D was madeup of problem childs and convicted crimminals, that D was nothing witouth Russ and neither was mediocre Marshawn, Marshawn was a joke that entire seattle team was a joke before Russ and Bobby came in 2012 and team INSTANTLY went from 7 wins to 12, stop the cap, you love to create drama and media talks, but the numbers tell a very different story, winningest QB through first 9 seasons in history took seattle to the 2nd winningest franchise in the last decade and turned the whole team around, never talked sht on anybody, never complained never said anything y'all don't deserve the greatness he was both on and off the field 12IQs fanbase.@@DawnstealerGaming
As a Seahawk fan and long time Russ fan this one hurts 💔
nah we just claim him in free agency and laugh at the broncos fans. Or he goes to new york.
@@michaelphillips8043that’s the only title y’all win this szn
I truly don't understand why Sean Payton took this job if he never wanted Wilson. The cap costs of getting rid of Wilson will hurt the team for awhile and for all we know, Payton is gone after 3 losing seasons with the team. I'm a Seattle fan so I kinda hate to see Wilson's career trajectory going this way. Who knows...maybe he'll follow in the footsteps of Bobby Wagner and Marshawn Lynch for an unexpected return to the PNW. And somehow sit behind Drew Lock on the depth chart.
Never give up Two first rounders or more for a player. The team getting the pucks is almost always better off than the team who got the player.
I’ve seen some confusion on this move because Russ’s stats look superficially “good” but it’s really just the very nice TD:INT ratio. The biggest thing that you can see from the stats is that Russ just doesn’t throw for big yardage anymore (and that wasn’t never his best skill anyway). Just over 3,000 yards in 15 games is very mediocre in today’s NFL and though his running has also bounced back a bit from the last couple seasons, it’s not enough to offset the overall lack of production. As Perna knows from watching him, Russ basically can never string together a full game and goes completely dead for about two quarters every game. He’s basically a top end game manager, but that’s not likely to win you a Super Bowl or be worth anything close to the money he’s owed.
Stats don’t win games
@@timjones147True, but what’s the point?
If we’re going by wins, Russ is 11-19 as the Broncos QB. 17-27 over his last three, 29-31 over his last 4 (though I feel like citing his last two years with the Seahawks is way more irrelevant than his season stats). Statistics don’t win games, but they are a record of a player’s production, and the sad fact for Russell is that he just isn’t that productive anymore. The best case that he hasn’t declined is that he still leads the NFL in 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives (with 4), but I think many Broncos fans would argue that they wouldn’t have needed him to have those comebacks if the offense would have produced more earlier in the game.
Your trippin what run game we always get stuffed 😂
That's Play Calling... he's only given either screens or Hailmary type plays.
Broncos RB is rated low 20s wtf are you actually talking about?
RIP to the Russ Zone... The chaos will be missed ☝️😔☝️
It wont be missed, trust me!
No more Let's ride
"Pizza, pizza pizza!"
As a non bronco fan I would say it will be hella missed. Fun to watch!
The ride isn't over. It's just changing who's running the ride now.
I think you’re spot on with everything you said. You basically laid it all out there, we just don’t know what Coach is attempting to accomplish.
Green Bay Packers: "Hey, lets bench our star cornerback the next game, so we don't want to make the playoffs."
Denver Broncos: "Hold my beer (lets ride)!"
Why would the Broncos try to win the next two games when they still wouldn't make the playoffs?
@@stefanjoeres7149 Broncos have not been eliminated from playoff contention. Need some help....teams to lose here or there but they are still in it. In fact, they can still win their division if the Chiefs lose out and Raiders lose one.
Payton doesn’t want Wilson anymore, so this is a not-so-stealthy tank job to try and get the QB he wants instead
Russ is just the scapegoat. Im a diehard saints fan and Ive been saying for years that Sean Payton is a total fraud. That man wasted Drew Brees's career
I really like your analysis on RW's play. You're right, it's complicated. I've never watched a QB before that was so dependent on the people around him, both players & coaches.
So 2015 Peyton Manning didn't exist?
Benching Russell Wilson is a blatant attempt by Payton to avoid owning up to the fact his playcalling is absolute ASS.
As for "hasn't been very good" well you try being good behind the Broncos o-line. Is he perfect? No. But those hundred sacks weren't solely because of Russ.
If any team deserves to lose 2 in a row after a pull like this, it's the Broncos.
You can't pay a line with a dude taking 40 mil
How tall is Russel Wilson? How tall is the O Line? See a damned problem?
@@mattipps That argument isn't any more valid than it was when he played for the Hawks. When the O-line is letting the other side's defense get to him all the time, he's going to get sacked a lot.
@@internetzenmaster8952 right... same issues at Denver too
As a Hawks fan, we saw his decline here in his last few years. He was dangerous because he can run away from danger and had big arm for rainbow bombs. His age and height caught up to him along with his contract and stupid persona.
Yes! It feels like no one from the broncos management or decision-making echelon saw a hawk game the last two years of russell's tenure
Wilson did have one super skill: the huge bombs. But he had already lost a step when the Hawks dealt him and he was becoming unwatchable.
Its the coaching bud not russ every time he throws deep it is a dot
As Hawks fans, you’re all trash ass fans and your team will continue to be trash as well.
I felt like it caught up to him last year but his last good year was his last year with the hawks and that was a losing season
I want Russ to the Raiders so he can keep making Perna miserable
Can't lie, I've never been happy that Denver traded for Wilson. I would have preferred to see if Drew Lock could have improved with a coach that was willing to work with him, as opposed to a coach that didn't like, if not hated, him, ie Fangio. But we traded for Wilson. And while Russ has had a few decent games, he is still holding on to the ball for far too long, clearly can't see the middle of the field, and has developed a bad habit of fumbling the ball.
Russell hasn't been great but the Offensive line is AWFUL and The WR's aren't very good either....... Does Sean Payton take any of the blame for the game passing him bye? Sean Payton has become so predictable it's not even funny.....
@@learningcurve3212 The coach is predictable because the QB is horrible, cant do anything with him, cant trust him to throw it down the field.
Not gonna lie, Sean Payton’s offensive play calling is pretty awful. Never understood calling 2 screens and then running the ball of 3rd and 7. Watching the Broncos offense is like watching paint dry.
Thank you Russel Wilson for giving my Pats a good Christmas with one last ride
You should thank the coach! Sean is the reason.
Just wait, Russ will end up a Patriot
@@scorpiofrancis1119please I hope so
@@stevenmcbride9773 it’s Sean Payton Russell Wilson Vance on and on
How does the GM get a pass on this contract. I mean he has to be on his way out I’m guessing
"What's wrong with putting up empty stats?"- Derek Carr
josh allen has now been outplayed by 3 qbs who have been benched (zach wilson, mac jones, and now russell wilson) 😂😂😂😂
Brandon really predicted the future at 10:46 lol 😂
Incredible that its Stidham taking over again a year later in the same scenario
So the Broncos are back on the qb carousel again !!
I’m a Seattle sports fan and have only been watching this channel since the trade. It’s been a fun ride 🤠
Seriously **NO ONE** Is trading for that QB with that *HORRIBLE* contract.😂😂
I’m gonna miss the Russ Denver days
The chaos, the Broncos country memes, the 2nd half turnaround this season where they got to cooking, I just thought they were gonna try and tank this year considering how sad last year was
I will miss the “the worst worst worst………….game ever” from this channel. Broncos have it bad.
You got a damn good point about Russ not being whinny
It's depressing seeing us give up on the playoffs. I get it's a money move but still. Stidham is not going to fair well behind that line and especially if Payton is going to call outside screens all game. But mostly this needs to he a fairwell to Paton as we clear out his mistakes. He's made some really bad decisions as out GM.
Lol as a Chargers fan, I bet Stidham will have a career performance against our awful defense. And by all means, let it happen. We've been embracing the tank for weeks now
Stidham is tall enough to see over the O-line so I expect to see a lot of crossing route plays being executed in the next two games.
The line is fine. Did you even watch the games? Russ consistently panicked and ran out of clean pockets and the only reason Payton called outside screens all game is because that's all he trusted Russ with.
@@MikeDMinor There is not a QB in the league that can see over the line.....OL's are tall people. Even a tall QB does not have eyeballs on the top of their head.
@tylerjohnson2027 a 6' 3 QB has a much better chance of seeing over the o-)line than a 5' 10 one... remember at a scrimmage the O-line isn't always standing straight up.
Falcons aren’t a bad idea for Russ, but actually, I think the Steelers would be a great idea. Just have him get the ball deep to Pickens a few times a game, they retool their run game, and it could work.
For my Steelers to pick up that amount of payroll we’d have to jettison 2 of our QB ‘s. Personally I think Rudolph would serve about as well . Lots of players moving in the offseason but Wilson commands a high price for unproven success. Time will tell
Couldn't the Broncos absorb some of that money , so Steelers wouldn't have to pay it all?@@russellstewart5414
Nobody wants to pay that much cash for a Mediocre QB. Especially considering all the promising rookies coming on the scene and Reliable QBs soon for draft and trades.
So the Pats will have 3 former backups starting at QB this week? You’re right, it has been a weird year for QB’s.
It's really dumb continuing to pay QB to not play for them.
His greatest flaw is he is corny... yet we pile on him like he has been a disaster on and off the field. I absolutely loved watching him play with the Seahawks. Always felt like something awesome was about to happen. Those early teams were an absolute dream to watch as a fan. He was easy to like late round pick playing great football, he was an underdog... then team 3 rolled in and things took a turn. A lot of that corny underdog behavior started to look like a corporate brand and many people started to sour on him. It was a miscalculation he has been chasing for nearly 5 years. He doesn't deserve any hate.
Tell it to his former teammates.
I don't feel sympathy for Russ because he wanted out of a perfect situation. He could've taken a pay cut in seattle and played 5-7 more years, but no he wanted to be treated like Brady without the accountability. I hope he never plays another down of football.
Russ thought he could cook. Turns out he cooks about as well as Ayesha.
We will never leave you Perna, even after Mr. Unlimited leaves Denver.
As a redskins fan i was really glad we didn't go for Russ i just knew he was to far past his prime to carry a team. That being said he really does seem like the most professional and respectable quarterback in the league
Broncos fans got their own taste of Carson Wentz from the Russ Error
This should absolutely get Stafford into the Hall of Fame. He's the only QB in these massive blockbuster trades to actually justify his acquisition.
As a seahawks fan, I knew this would happen but sad that it did. I hope Russ finds a home and can find success somewhere else.
He may find a home but he's not going to magically become a better quarterback at the end of his career.
@@McP1mpin Joe Flacco has entered the conversation.
as a seahawks fan i hate to see this happen to him, but dear god am i happy it’s not with us 😭
Oh, because of all the success you have had with Geno Smith...........lol
@@calibrazxr750and what success has denver had with russ again? i’ll wait…
Maybe I’m missing something? Aren’t the Broncos still in playoff contention If they win out? They are literally just giving up?
As a broncos fan this is where I am at. I can’t believe it.
Let’s be honest even if they make it, they’re just a bye week for a real playoff team
They'd need to win out and get some luck with the remaining games. Definitely not impossible though
You guys are all delusional. It was already crazy if they ended up 10-7 because the afc race is so rough.
9-8 the seasons done for sure.
Maybe they feel that the patriots lost means that's it's over
They benched him to save 30 million and he can’t be traded if he fails a physical so they gave him the hook
Fyi Bucs, Packers and Titans all have 70+ million dollar cap hit this year and next and 2 those teams are competing for wildcard
I honestly think the Broncos need to try to figure it out with Wilson because a trade it unlikely and cutting him is not a viable option. They’re kind of stuck with him unless they want to suck for a couple of years. I would try to build around him until it’s economical to cut him.
They have sucked ever since Manning retired, another couple of years, hell another ten years, won't make any difference.
Russ has always been an amazing deep ball passer. He's also always been a guy who holds the ball way too long and was truly only at his very best when the O-line was able to move the pocket for him. Because for whatever reason (his height, honestly) he can't just stand in the pocket and find open receivers or even pass them open. Seattle certainly thanks you for taking him off our hands. For what it's worth, I don't want Denver to fail because Russ is/was there since it holds no benefit for Seattle anymore. I just want Denver to fail because I can't stand Sean Payton. But good luck I guess. Neither of us is going anywhere this year regardless :)
This just in! QBs play well when Oline does their job! More at 11
I’ve only been interested in the broncos cuz I’m a Russ fan. Hope he goes somewhere with an offense geared to his strengths
That's what he's on now. Check downs and deep balls are all his capable of and Payton devised the entire offense around those things.
As a Seahawks fan After Russ was traded i was fallowing Russ of course to see who won the trade and i had a lot fun because u can see clearly who won the trade! Because of this it lead me to perna channel who is simply put one of the best nfl channel out there! And i have been following and will continue to do because is so funny and informative at the same time! Keep it up buddy and good luck.
I don't blame Russell Wilson at all! At first, I did, but seeing the 16-point deficit against the Patriots vanish I no longer do. Sean was forced to call pass plays and other than a few unnecessary bombs Russell Wilson responded perfectly! Before that it was run run pass with a screen here or there. If Sean kicked the FG in first quarter we win. I don't believe Sean was playing to win this entire year. If Wilson was really the problem, and if they really wanted to win they would have benched him earlier.
I don't trust the NFL anymore. All the bad calls have gotten worse this year and many teams have lost games because of it. There is no accountability with the referees because they are doing exactly what the NFL wants them to do. This NFL sucks!
As a seahawks fan I only found your channel because if the trade. Staying even now he's done. Great channel, my friend. Love your stuff. Be well and take care.
I’m gonna miss Russ. He was unbearable to watch sometimes, but when he cooked, it was magical. I salute you mate, but now it’s Jarrett Studham time in Denver.
the way the broncos are treating russell wilson is terrible, i feel so bad for him
70 points got scored against us in a single game this year ... That was Russ? Think Sean may be better at running dark money bounty games then football games.
In his last year with the Seahawks, Russ got criticized by Pete and actually fought back on one aspect of his play (the only time he talked back to criticism). Russ is too confident in his ability to scramble. I remember watching him be fairly uncatchable when he got outside of the pocket and it's in those moments that he hardly ever looked to just run forward himself. That's likely what kept him healthy compared to most other mobile QBs. But in his last year with the Seahawks, his declining mobility with age was clear in how he would still keep trying those little U-turn moves to try and evade defenders. It wouldn't help him escape the likes of Aaron Donald, for an example.
I watched a Broncos game where I watched him still trying to do that while a defender was already on top of him, and again, it didn't work. He takes some key sacks trying to extend a play he just cannot extend like he used to. He'll make a good backup for some team, but he definitely needs to watch some games from the sidelines.
Worst move in Broncos history… was acquiring Russ ! Hopefully we can be contenders in at least 5 years 😩
I was figuring he wouldn't excel in Denver, unfortunately. Russ' style of play (where he dances around and delays so receivers can get open) only works with good blocking. Seattle could never get a good o-line because they always drafted too late, so his success didn't last. Denver did not have a much better o-line than Seattle did when Wilson left there. So I was skeptical that he'd be able to recapture what he had in the early days of his career (when Seattle had one of the best o-lines).
Seattle drafted too late ?
Or just traded away 1st round draft picks and traded for the likes of Okung who was a swing door.
No excuses at all for that OL, they chose to ignore it for years.
@@gourami7 They had years and years of getting ~10 win seasons and losing early in the playoffs. The best way to get a good o lineman is in the draft, and those don’t stick around until pick 20-32. Immediately after the Wilson trade, when Seattle finally had picks, they got 2 starters.
I told everyone the day it happened. Russ was going to be garbage because he lost the step and he’s not tall enough to see over the line. so unless he scrambling, he cannot see the middle of the field. He’s constantly running himself into sacks and missing wide open throws and that drives coaches crazy
I feel like Deshaun Watson has been more ridiculed more than russ the last couple years
Dude I subbed to this channel (as a CHARGERS FAN) when the turmoil started before one of our games. Wild the saga yall are on
Lucky scrambles, LoB and 4th quarter officiating, The Russell Wilson story.
casual
The fact of the matter is that a lot of Russell's career were hollow stats. So so so many 3 and outs forgotten because of some beautiful highlight scramble.
I understand wanting to give Russ credit from improving upon last season, but I also think that means you need to hold him accountable for being so awful last season. People like to take the lazy route and say it was mostly on hackett, but what was a first year head coach supposed to do when someone that national media perceived as a future HOFer came in, and was given the promise and power to significantly influence the offensive play design. What do you do when that person thinks he can play like brady, but he is below average in a clean pocket? Let alone one that starts to feel a little pressure, where the great qbs would start making micro adjustments, wilson's eyes just drop and he starts spinning and doing all sorts of random stuff.
I am not saying hackett is a good head coach, but when you aren't given the authority, and you have a giant fraud given all this power to do whatever he wants, you aren't going to be able to get the rest of the players to believe you're the guy in charge.
Now imagine hackett's position, which is in some ways similar to Payton in that, they both have experienced elite QB play, and then have had to move to a phony QB that can't play on schedule. At least Payton had the advantage of having the clout, and Wilson being humiliated last year so that he could become more coachable and stop imagining he was on the brady-tier.
I also think you give him too much credit for how he handles controversy... you just haven't gotten to experience it yet in denver, but wait until team 3 starts their smear campaign of the broncos org with various leaks to swing the public in Wilson's corner and paint the broncos as evil. He's got all sorts of dirt on his past but people just don't care... like having one of the worst charities of all the walter payton men of the year.
Him going to atlanta would be good for him, his wife has a connection to ATL, and it's a weak division for him to feast in.
I don't think the 5% or whatever chance to make the playoffs is as bad as it looks, there are a lot of games the broncos need to go their way that are not unrealistic.
Edit: Lol just saw someone mentioning Russ liking tweets related to anonymous reports about being "threatened" with a benching if he didn't renegotiate his injury guarantees. The Team 3 smear campaign has begun.
@teamdinosaurs999 saying much of his career stats are hollow is just a horrendous take. You and others seem to forget that he won a Super Bowl with Seattle and it also took him nearly a decade before having a losing season. He had several years where he made milestones for most wins by a quarterback to start a career. In Seattle he also averaged damn near 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns a season with less than 10 picks. Russ may not have been an elite pocket passer or great rhythm passer because of his size but in his prime he was still a damn good quarterback with elite stats for years
@@mylespoun9709 Only to people that don't understand football. He got hard carried by a historic defense that held teams to 13.3ppg in the playoffs and a fringe HOF caliber RB.
People like you won't understand because you probably can't grasp how his stats this season are hollow either. Let alone comprehend how a player could do that for most of their career. But notice that once that historic defense went away the seahawks were no longer real contenders. That's cause of hollow stats and a way of playing that is not effective vs playoff caliber teams.
There's also a reason he never got a single mvp vote.
What is a HOF QB supposed to do with a massively incompetent rookie head coach who can’t run an offense? And what HOF QB has ever had to deal with that?
Russ carried the Seahawks for years, and the smear campaign you’re referring to has been confirmed by Denver media. So just say you don’t like Russ.
@@andref9663 Russ apologists that don't watch game tape are zzz.
@@teamdinosaurs999 What a stupid argument you made and worst of all you are arrogant about your horrendous point. No sh*t the team is no longer a contender when half the side of the ball sucks. Seattle has not had a top 15 defense since 2018 and we are almost in 2024. Russ and the offense carried some bad defenses for years after the LOB ended.
Am sad !!!!!!!! Am a Seahawks fan and got into everthing with Brocnos ! I thought this year they would will 10,11 games am sad . Also how good of a coach is Pete caroll for winning
Never forget what he did to USC
Are you an AI bot?
It's honestly kind of sad Sean Payton basically wasted what was left of Russ's time in his prime by basically just trying to copy and paste in Drew Brees.
As a Seahawk fan I was watching Russ show up in a clown suit and being in a jovial mode after losing his first game as a Bronco. I was thinking that I am so happy we traded him.
Did the Broncos just ruin Wilson getting into the HOF?
Yeah, he'll be lucky to even be remembered now.
He could play elsewhere. Let's say replace injured Jalen hurts or Lamar after injury.
Wilson ruined his chance at the HOF by going 10-19 these last 2 years . He 'could' turn it around on his 3rd team, we'll see.
@@daveclark8337 I don't think he recovered from the end zone interception in the Super Bowl with Seattle.
Wilson is a HOFer
Hopefully Sean gets your team figured out, the division looks as open as it's been for quite awhile.
Best wishes Brandon, you deserve some good football.
@@bsmith8943 that's very likely but when has the Chiefs looked this vulnerable? Wouldn't be smart to stand around with their dicks in their hands if there is any chance you don't just bounce back.
Sean is part of the problem, hopefully he can be part of a solution!
they are fucked if story is true nflpa is going make sure no fucking player sign to denver for risk they will force you to waive your injury guarantees
Sean can't pick a QB to save his life, he got lucky with Brees and couldn't do anything after that. Dude was developing Taysom Hill into a QB, What bad idea that was.
AFC West looks more open? 🤣😂🤣 wtf are you smokin, Bro?
Perna accidentally cursed his own QB😭
Russ, Tony Romo and Kirk Cousins.
Three qbs with misleading stats.
The Ride may be over, but The Fleecing rambles on.
Ive been a Seahawks hate watcher of the Broncos last two years but what you said about Russ was spot on I like hating Russ the player but its impossible to hate Russ the man and when you started that speech I thought yeah Russ and Dak seem like great guys but I hate watching them play football and want them to lose lol
With Sean doing this, I imagine there is going to be a huge distrust in the organization. At any certain time you can be cut from your contract just because your coach doesn’t like you. I also imagine many free agents will not be going to the Broncos cause of this. Can’t trust a coach to have your back, you don’t go to that coach. Even if Russ is booty he should have been played the last two games as respect.
As a Saints fan... trust in what Payton is doing. Yeah dude has a strong personality but there's a method to his madness. We miss him as coach as Saints fans
But Sean recommended the dumb a$$ we got now who calls himself a coach so he is somewhat responsible for the crap the Saints fan got to deal with now🤬
I don't know how to tell you this, but you're not getting Jayden Daniels, ask any Saints fan, Sean Payton hates LSU, he never drafts LSU, people down here have been begging him to draft LSU for his entire tenure here, and he never does.
You're going to be trading for Sean Payton's one true love in football: Taysom Hill lol
I don't know why this situation would play out any differently than the Carr situation last year. Why trade for a player when their team has already signaled that they're going to cut him? It's not like Wilson hitting the open market is going to dictate a higher contract than the one he already has