2023 Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid - More Range, Weight, Money
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- The two tanks dates back to the Dakar Rally days, the tanks for the bikes were made by hand out of aluminum, 2 separate halves, for the simple reason that if one gets punctured (in a fall & starts leaking for example) the other tank was still good and the rider could continue the race. This is why there are two caps, the tanks are not connected.
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Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:03 Different
2:29 Competition
3:38 Powertrain
5:37 Autobahn
8:06 Chassis
10:57 Ergonomics
11:58 In Town
13:34 Controls & Display
14:26 Verdict - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Sorry guys, there is no cruise control on this bike, I misspoke.
optional quickshifter?
nope 😢
@@rosandplyes, 2023 models are prepared for quickishifter. You can buy as an extra. But these buttons are for World Raid mode controls on dash
No problem at all 😁
I have a WR, it's funny reading all the too top heavy comments. I am sure most of these people are just repeating what others have said. Just get used to whatever bike you have, don't fall for marketing propaganda or you will be getting a new bike every year. For me I want a bike to be in my life for a long time, we journey together and I live and except any foibles the bike had. I bought it as I came from a 660Z, very happy.
So true, i have a WR as well and had a 950 adventure before (which is known to have a very low center for its seat-height) and i honestly cant feel a significant difference. And i offroad both of them enduro-ish (single trails). People just talk without knowing anything these days. Most probably didnt ride a WR at all
The Yamaha Tenere 700 Raid needs to be imported to the USA. Yamaha is missing out on a major market for this motorcycle.
For years I have had my 2015 KTM1190R, a bike that still takes me all over on all terrains. I love the Tenere but I find it amazing how ALL the brands keep juggling with power, weight and distance for the larger adventure bikes. End of the day, know where you want to ride, and your limits. Fit the bike to your riding. Really good review by the way.
Great job as always Scott, hope your subscribers boost up soon, you certainly earned it and do a fantastic job reviewing.
Always great to hear your experience!
Thanks Scott. The standard Tenere always felt a little top heavy. Great to see the tuning fork listen to feedback.
Yea, sometimes they listen and this time they did! The weight really felt lower than the normal Tenere, I could not believe it.
Excellent review mate. Transalp and WR are on my mind choices. T7 has been always my first thought 💭 and after this review , I'm convinced. Thanks my friend. No cruise nor quick shifter is fine for everything on this performance package.
Incredible that you just put this up - I was knocked off my Africa Twin and it was written off sadly. When I recover I'll be looking for a replacement. Thanks for the upload.
This one is almost as heavy as standard Africa twin but with only 70% of the power, not that great.
@@fs5866 true - The aprilia 660 Tuareg is Also on the list
If you like the front of the Tuareg, go for it, me personally the Tuareg and also like the Pan America and Tiger 1200 all look atrocious with that flat front light, among the worst designs you can come up with, i dont know what they're thinking.
If you like the front of the Tuareg, go for it, me personally the Tuareg and also like the Pan America and Tiger 1200 all look atrocious with that flat front light, among the worst designs you can come up with, i dont know what they're thinking.
@@fs5866It also costs less, has greater range, and most significantly much much better suspension. Also Öhlins steering damper. The WR is an adventure bike. The AT is an SUV.
Great video Scott as always
Thanks!
The cruise control on the Tuareg plus tubeless tires gives it the edge for me.
@@Wanobi99 , throttle lock isn't cruise control. Works for short breaks on flat straight roads, but that is it.
Totally agree with you on the tubeless, I hate tubed wheels,but the tuareg definitely will have its problems and won't last as long as the Yamaha.
Also noticed that the subframe could be lowered down in the bike a bit and since it's taller it would be able to make the foot pegs to be lowered to help with being into the bike instead of feeling like you're up on a flag pole. I'm going to end up talking myself into buying this bike to make these modifications if I'm not careful. Okay I'm going to spill the beans cause my first bike was a Yamaha mx bike back in the 70s and they will always have a place in my heart and this World Raid is no exception and it just looks awesome!
It’s a lovely Bike indeed Scott, great review
Nice video for a fantastic bike ❤💙❤💙❤
i seriously consider this bike for my new, lighter setup after tiger 1200. But my heart goes for Husky 901 expedition. 2k euro more but boy, you gets lots more. And the look, i fall in love instantly. Atter 5k km i love it even more.
Great review cheers👍
Good video 👏
Very good video ❤❤❤❤
Thank you for the explanation ❤️💙💚❤️💙💚❤️💙💚❤️💙💚
It's nice they expand the capabilities of the bike by adding the extra range, but as someone who rides my Tenere 700 in standard trim pretty hard offroad primarily, I can't imagine how horrible it would be to wrestle that extra weight around on service roads and tandem trails for multiple days.
Road tested this last Friday morning. Still Insanely top heavy for a middle weight, felt like a big GS. It's very confusing how these brands don't listen to the community and upgrade / update designs. Look at the Norden, amazing balance with the tank down low, was such a smooth ride. It feels like the market is clinging to the AT / GS designs thinking there just can't be anything better. Will I NOT keep riding my GS , of course not. I'm a die hard 1250 rider but that's my preference, and there's such a HUGE influx of riders into the genre looking for middle weight bikes that aren't build with 1250 style setups.
Its all about marketing...mate !!!
Great review, Scott! I see an opening for SW Motech, or some other after market suppliers to come up with an innovative cover for those two fuel tank lids in the shape of a woman's bosom.
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Nice & Thanks :)
If Yamaha could tilt that motor forward and drop that motor down would be in their favor for lowering the center of gravity to not be so top heavy I would definitely consider making a purchase of this amazing machine from Yamaha!
I have suzuki V strom 650 2007 , 21 L real ...for 500km, now 120 000km no problem
i have a 2022 T7. Just did 8000 miles in July, went from NC, to Mexico, then CDT to Canada and then back to NC. I added the McCruise which was flawless and doubles the bikes rideability for me.
Hi, thanks for the info, especially the McCruise, I was not aware of them, expensive, but they look like a goo alternative to having electronic CC on a bike that does not have it.
take care,
Scott
I own the WR and yes, even tho it is heavier than the regular T7, it feels quite a bit lighter since the tanks are so much lower. This bike is worth every cent
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I don’t really do off-road so I hope they could do cruise on the tracer 7 as well
Glad they put cruise control on it! I wouldn't buy it without.
It does not have cruise control
Excellent review once more. Thank you for this. What were your filming locations for this video ? The forest roads look amazing :)
North Germany 😁
Enjoyed your review, thank you. I appreciate they are different categories, but the challenge that I have is the new price of the World Raid is too close to the base cost of the BMW R1250 GSA. And yes no one buys a base GS, however given that the Tenere don’t have electronics its probably a fair comparison. Given the competition, I think the World Raid is a little expensive - potentially they should have stopped the standard Tenere and just replaced it with the World Raid edition? interested in how others see the value proposition of the World Raid?
I think it looks kinda jank with two filler caps sitting right next to each other. Couldn't they just have designed one big tank with one filler cap like all the manufacturers do?
I think it's badd ars...never ridden one but it is what makes our hearts tick...super cool...different and special?
It’s a gimmick, pure and simple.
@@MH-xd2nd has lower centre of mass, if drop it and one side tank holes you still have the other.
ktm 950/990 has the same layout. it works. two fuel tanks is not only lower center of gravity, but also less inertia from sloshing. dogfighters use multiple fuel tanks.
@@MH-xd2ndit isn’t a gimmick. It’s about getting the fuel lower. In off road situations it makes it easier to throw around. Maybe KTM does it neater with the 890, but some riders have found with the big bladder tanks that KTM deploys it can hit stuff on really narrow tracks, or if you go through a rut. This T7 setup still keeps in narrow around the engine casing.
4:20 - I was surprised you didn't mention the Tuareg there. I've not ridden the T7 but i spent a day on a Tuareg and thought the motor was very, very good. Where Aprilia fails for me is with respect to reliability though.
At that moment I was comparing Japanese bikes, my brain can't support talking about all 19 bikes in this category, simply can't remember them, especially while riding. Sorry. 😊
@@NothingToProve Did you like the Aprilia?
Not available in the USA. Same as the updates on the standard T7 - not available
Lower it 30mm on the rear, 15-20mm on the front. Larger Puig windscreen and somekind of cruise control and this one is a winner.
why? just buy a bike with 17 inch wheels if you are short.
Great review. Before changing the screen try this, temporarily place a smooth plastic or even maybe stiff cardboard sheet the same width of the screen BEHIND it just above the cut out at the bottom. Based on years of experimentation with screens (not this one yet but at some point I will) I bet that this will supercharge the airflow behind the screen which will lift the buffeting air-flow over your helmet without putting an ugly and less effective screen in place. If this works, then make an elegant permanent solution based on some black/tinted/clear plastic. A taller screen does not necessarily reduce buffeting, but in my experience, a "behind the screen" air-flow accelerator often can do, providing there is a gap at the screen base like there is on this bike. When you get it right, it can totally eliminate buffeting and still look cool rather than look like a Police patrol bike or your grans scooter.
Hmm...I wonder why none of the OEMs or after market companies have made a product like this before. Cause it sounds like something I'd try and it does not make the screen bigger. Maybe you should start your own company and send me a prototype and I'd make a video and post it on my channel...and the rest is history.
take care,
Scott
Aeroflow screens in California has been including that concept for decades in their screens for BMWs. ITs called a Laminar Flow Plate and I think it is patented.
I like yours channel name ;)
could have made the tank cap single.. hassle having to open two :)
Nice!
Just like my old jag.
woow amazing
I wish it had cruise control.
Yes yamaha 💪
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I don't see the reason for two tanks?
Could've fit one big one.
Did I hear correctly about cruise control? It doesn’t really matter since zero availability in my market, but maybe others will follow suit in the category.
It does not have cruise control. He made a mistake.
Hi Scott, 2 questions: can you change the airfilter without removing the big fueltank?
And is a centrestand available? Cheers from The Netherlands
No need to remove the tank
No you don’t it’s in the same position as the standard tenere 😊
This bike is design to navigate arctic circle,"dalton hiway"😊😊😊 or simpson desert i think.
You are rich,you have 1250 RT,BMW GS,now you have yamaha tenere what else I know you have car, I see in your video,great.
Do you love clutch cover rubbing against your right leg?
Reminds me of my KTM990 Adv
Cagiva gran canyon had 2 fillers 1998+ on
I regularly bleed my brakes for better response.I t helps and not expensive to do.
allright,now we are talking....
If the World Raid is sold un the USA I'd go for it.. I only have the standard T7
I wish they have a cruiser like 900-1700cc
Still not available in the USA
Have you rode it off road yet?
👍. A very nice bike. How the t 7 should have been. Would like to buy one. But not for the premium price tag. Then again there is a premium price on all vehicles here now.
Agreed!!
Nice video 😉👌👌👌👌♥️👍🙏😉👏🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫
What is better in your opinion the WR or Tracer 900 GT ?! I own a world raid and am considering swooping it for a Tracer 9, i’ve only got room for one!
I want to go the other way, I have a 900GT and have just tried the WR and was well impressed. The only problem is I struggle with the seat height, but I am still interested.
Sadly not available in NA 😢
I don't know why, but the two gas caps are ugly. Or the area around the gas caps is too crowded looking.
T700 World Raid lacks power a lot on tarmac road. It's OK for offroad riding but asphalt not so much with this 220 weight :-(
it’s closer to a 10-11kg difference. The world raid carries about 4-5kg of extra fuel.
5.16kg of extra fuel to be exact & 9.84kg for a second gas tank & gas cap and rest is mostly the new revised rocker arm: Aluminum strut with revised expansion tank for better damping, new shock absorber - 20mm more travel. Weight well spent imho.
@@NothingToProve i didn’t know they went for a new rocker arm. Apart from the fuel tank, I attributed most of the weight gain to the stock three-piece skid plate and radiator guard.
Oh yea, forgot about the longer/wider skid plate, that's probably at least 1kg more vs. the standard.
What does the "Raid" mean in Yamaha Ténéré 700 World Raid ? Thank you 🙏
Sure, it's named after the Yamaha off-road race team. Here is one link if you want to read it...it is kind of interesting.
www.yamaha-racing.com/tenere-world-raid/bike/
I want think like that
I totally do not understand this world raid version of the T7. The T7 lives by its slim line and low weight, and now they make it look like a pregnant cow and up the weight by 15 kgs. The standard model has more than enough range.
500+ km with one tank hmmmmmm prefect for dayli trip to Mongolia and back to Europe 😄
Yeah like my 990 adventure but mine will drain the gas faster and i don't know about t7 is it economical
I ride Hyperstada 939 with 16L fuel (4 reserve fuel) and sometimes ride long distance with no gas station available, and I mount 6L capacity fuel tank (7L fully filled ) upon the rucksack behind passenger seat, with no problem.
Why would you need to customize your bike to just adding fuel tank when you can so easily do as I do?
I was thinking doing the same with my 800gs (16L). But I dont want to add any more weight to the rear since the fuel tank is already at the rear. I dont think mounting to crash bars would be a good idea?
The idea of 2 fuel tank is not a new😂 KTM 990 ADV have the same along time ago😅
Copied and pasted from my description:
"The two tanks dates back to the Dakar Rally days, the tanks for the bikes were made by hand out of aluminum. Two separate halves, for the simple reason that if one gets punctured in a fall, the other half of the tank was still good and could continue the race."
It looks familiar 😂
I know this is NOT the place to ask but here goes nothing 😄 Since you’re an American living in Germany so you know if the BMW bikes that are sold here in the US In compliance with euro 5 emissions?? Thanks in advance. Greetings from balmy Arizona🌵🌵🌵🤣🤣
Sorry, I have no clue about that. But with that said BMW usually makes one version and sells it to the world, so they probably are. 🤷♂️
@@NothingToProve ohh okay if that’s the case I can move to Greece now with my GSA Trophy😂😂 Thanks again🫡🇺🇸
no quick shifter no cruise control.... thats a bummer!
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Thank you for the constructive criticism, I value any that I can get! I'm always looking at ways to improve things.
thank you once again, take care,
Scott
I'm very sceptical about the bike not feelin top heavy..
Sit on the Tenere and then sit on this, then you won't be skeptical.
Can you really tell the suspension difference on pavement?
No, not at all.
Wish you went offroad 😘😘😘😘
I did some but just didn't show it, figured there are a million videos of this thing off road but not many on and on road is what I do best 😁
Can i ride this bike when i am only 171 cm ? Im in love with that bike 😂
Just one word: "tip-toe".
șu motor 700 cc ?
A beautiful bike but I'll keep '89 Tenerée.
Ah, an 89 Teneree, nice, a time when bikes were simple and one could do all the work needed on the bike in one's own garage! I miss that, never sell that bike!
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve no, I won't sell. She getting renovated for my retirement years and a trip to Africa. Getting a new bike is still more expensive than givi g the old girl a full wellness check.
It is mandatory to fill 2 tanks for one fuel refill ?
no 😊
Qual a necessidade disso 😅
The best bike is the one you got that don't belong to the bank !!!!If you put yourself in dedt buying a nice flashy toy...you are nothing but crazy !!!! Thats the starting point..
Out of dedt...Out on the Road !
Yamaha isn't giving any T7 love to the US.
The market is too big for too little profit, so as usual the U.S. will have to wait till production of this picks up and they can meet the supply and the smaller profit margins 😢 But "business is business".
Really now, what's the purpose of 2 tanks????? Seriously now......
Well, if you wanted to enter the Dakar Rally, you literally could with this bike. Seriously though how many guys that buy this bike will enter that rally? 0.001% 🙁
Pity you havnt ridden it on dirt for comment,thks.
There are millions of videos of this bike off-road. Why would I add to that?
This guy with TWO filler caps , has he got something to prove?
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Saw it in person at a dealership. Very first though was this is ugly, looks kind of weird, very bulgy with those tanks. Wouldn’t buy it myself.
Ktm950
Pls don't make double decker bikes 🙏
No quick shifter on a 2023? No thanks.
Weird to see two tanks on a bike (reminds me of two %### on a girl😉)
Lmao 😂 it is a joke. Its can be 1 but they split it.
2 cm is allot, ask any women.
was ein schwachsin warum nicht 1 grosser tank
That’s pretty stupid tbh, just make one cap 🧢
Copy 990.adventure the best bike