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I would definitely disagree with that. They barely had him in the playoffs and still nobody came close. Of course they are better with him, but they are still the best without him easily. Also I think that certain teams will give Boston a tough series as well, but that doesn’t make them as good.
@donkeyeater6942 that’s true but in the regular season they were dominant against everybody and in the finals they breezed past Dallas with KP down and Tatum shooting poorly. It’s a fair point but I don’t think it changes the result, they were winning last year no matter who they played imo. And they didn’t lose anyone in the offseason so I just think they’re the best team until proven otherwise.
@@DeHaveCeltics walked through the playoffs due to injuries. For the Pacers to have faced them in the finals is a joke. Last year’s EC playoffs should hold little weight
@@DeHavecome on my guy, the Celtics played some trash teams. I don’t want to hear about the regular season. The played a completely injured Heat team, played the Cavs without two of their best players, played the Pacers without their best player and the pacers were out scoring them for the most part, and they played a Mavs team that clearly overachieved. One of the easiest roads to the finals. Celtics have a very good team but they are not that much better than the other top teams and y’all will find out this season
Giannis is the 2nd or 3rd best in the world. As long as he always has a solid supporting cast, his team will at least be the bottom of elite. I give you some credit bc of his injuries. But he is just such a difference maker that only Luka and Jokic can replace even only on the offensive side of the floor
I’m so glad this OKC glazing is stopping. Some people think they are on the same level as the Celtics and they haven’t even made it to the conference finals yet.
The only thing that's stopping this Thunder team is youth and lack of experience. Their oldest guy is Caruso who is only 30 years old even then. If they had a few years more experience with this level of talent, the conversation might be much different
im a pacers fan so i may be biased, but with a healthy haliburton and full season with pascal, i think they’ll put themselves in the top 5 duos in the league conversation. we saw them be able to go bucket for bucket with boston even without haliburton. if a guy like jarace can develop into a starter and take on the toughest matchup defensively, i can see them as a top 3 seed only behind new york and boston and can compete with anyone in a 7 game series. i think philly and milwaukee may struggle too much with injuries to be in the top and of the standings and a team like cleveland is hard to predict. maybe they’re another year of playoff experience away from being a truly elite team, but im very excited to be a pacers fan for the next few years
I hear you, I am also higher on the pacers than most, but I just don’t think they’re on the level of a Dallas, Okc, Minnesota, Denver, Knicks or Healthy Sixers. It’s possible they duplicate the success but I think you hit the nail on the head, defensively they need some things to happen before they can become elite. I’d even take the offense a step further and say they can keep up with ANYONE in this league, but it’s the other end I worry about. Not to mention, Knick, Sixers, Celtics, Heat and Bucks all have great big men, I worry about the Pacers size and physicality for certain matchups. Not saying Turner isn’t a good player or even very good defender but the interior is not a strength of this team in a conference with great big men. I agree that they by the end of the season they’re gonna be in a position to give anyone a tough series, but I just think those teams are better. Thanks for the feedback and good luck to you and your pacers this season 🙏🏻
As a blazer fan, Billups is the worst coach in the league. HOWEVER, 1. All of our best players, we kept. 2. We added Avdija and Clingan 3. Simons, Grant, Ayton, Robert Williams, and Sharpe missed about 200 games combined last year!! 4. Our rookies from last year (Scoot, Camara, etc.) will be 2nd year players I would bet my life that Portland wins more games than the "Detroit Pistons." lmao and wouldn't be surprised if they're 10th seed or better. Anyways I agree w most of your list regardless lol
I agree with the top of your list for the most part, but the bottom feels very optimistic for a lot of these teams. I really doubt that the Pistons do anything of note, the Bulls seem too high, just in general there aren't nearly enough teams in the 'Rebuilding' category. I think people are generally way too high on the Kings too. But otherwise it's a fine list.
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I can’t stand the bucks disrespect. Especially giannis and dame. Give the most dominant player in the world the 2nd best shooter in nba history, and one of the best scorers of this era in dame who still has one, maybe two years left of his prime, they will just be unstoppable this season. I don’t want anybody who was not riding the bucks to jump on once they see how good giannis & dame can really be.
Cmon man the Celtics aren’t a whole tier above anyone else. They are the best but a whole tier is disrespectful to the Knicks, Bucks, and 76ers. There is a little bit of glaze with that one 😂
😂😂😂 What have the Thunder, 76rs, Magic, Kings, and Suns, "proven" It's always the Grizzlies that have to "prove it" never go off of realistic projections with the Grizzlies
I understand being unbiased but if we are being honest knicks still have no answer for a healthy embiid no matter how many wings they have kat and robinson is too small
You just ranked Houston starting unit as the 10th best in the West and their bench as the 1st, but the team is 11th? Doesn't add up. Do you mean having the best bench in the conference will hurt the starters' performance, or do you just can't let those geriatric teams that have already been at the end of play-in ranking last year go?
@@DeHave Tell that to last week's DeHave. He ranked Houston above Warriors, Clips, and Spurs. Three teams that have multiple HoFs in their starting lineups.
@@DeHaveI am talking about the starting lineups and bench rankings videos from last week, where Houston was 10th and 1st respectively. I believe the tier list video was a month ago? Houston was 12th there, but that's ancient history in internet time.
I was talking about this tier list video, only reason I ask is because I’m not sure if you’re saying the rockets are playoff caliber based on the staring 5 and bench rankings I did (I have them in Playin Caliber, top of playin caliber.)… and your criticism was that I had them 11th overall, just trying to clarify!
@callumsmith5819 Don't get me wrong he is a great player, just not the best in my opinion. Embid busts his azz everytime they play so... While KD, Bron, and Steph are still in the league then the Joker is just gonna have to take a back seat
@@ryanlambert1265Embiid would be that good if he wasn't averaging 58 games a year. So would be Kawhi. Being healthy and available matters. I give your thinking very highly of LBJ, SC and KD to the Olympics hype. Those guys are grandpas and none of them are in the top 5 anymore. They can't play the 82-game season at that age. Just look where their teams ended last year.
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The Celtics only in their own tier if they have KP. And even then i think OKC, Minnesota, New York, Milwaukee give them a go this year
I would definitely disagree with that. They barely had him in the playoffs and still nobody came close. Of course they are better with him, but they are still the best without him easily. Also I think that certain teams will give Boston a tough series as well, but that doesn’t make them as good.
@@DeHaveI think they were so dominant in the east was because many of the teams they played were injured
@donkeyeater6942 that’s true but in the regular season they were dominant against everybody and in the finals they breezed past Dallas with KP down and Tatum shooting poorly. It’s a fair point but I don’t think it changes the result, they were winning last year no matter who they played imo. And they didn’t lose anyone in the offseason so I just think they’re the best team until proven otherwise.
@@DeHaveCeltics walked through the playoffs due to injuries. For the Pacers to have faced them in the finals is a joke. Last year’s EC playoffs should hold little weight
@@DeHavecome on my guy, the Celtics played some trash teams. I don’t want to hear about the regular season. The played a completely injured Heat team, played the Cavs without two of their best players, played the Pacers without their best player and the pacers were out scoring them for the most part, and they played a Mavs team that clearly overachieved. One of the easiest roads to the finals. Celtics have a very good team but they are not that much better than the other top teams and y’all will find out this season
A sane and rational 76ers fan that doesn't D ride embiid, it's nice to see as a boston celtics fan.
Giannis is the 2nd or 3rd best in the world. As long as he always has a solid supporting cast, his team will at least be the bottom of elite. I give you some credit bc of his injuries. But he is just such a difference maker that only Luka and Jokic can replace even only on the offensive side of the floor
The Bucks just lost to the Nets who are supposed to be the worst team in the NBA 😬
I’m so glad this OKC glazing is stopping. Some people think they are on the same level as the Celtics and they haven’t even made it to the conference finals yet.
The only thing that's stopping this Thunder team is youth and lack of experience. Their oldest guy is Caruso who is only 30 years old even then. If they had a few years more experience with this level of talent, the conversation might be much different
im a pacers fan so i may be biased, but with a healthy haliburton and full season with pascal, i think they’ll put themselves in the top 5 duos in the league conversation. we saw them be able to go bucket for bucket with boston even without haliburton. if a guy like jarace can develop into a starter and take on the toughest matchup defensively, i can see them as a top 3 seed only behind new york and boston and can compete with anyone in a 7 game series. i think philly and milwaukee may struggle too much with injuries to be in the top and of the standings and a team like cleveland is hard to predict. maybe they’re another year of playoff experience away from being a truly elite team, but im very excited to be a pacers fan for the next few years
I hear you, I am also higher on the pacers than most, but I just don’t think they’re on the level of a Dallas, Okc, Minnesota, Denver, Knicks or Healthy Sixers. It’s possible they duplicate the success but I think you hit the nail on the head, defensively they need some things to happen before they can become elite. I’d even take the offense a step further and say they can keep up with ANYONE in this league, but it’s the other end I worry about. Not to mention, Knick, Sixers, Celtics, Heat and Bucks all have great big men, I worry about the Pacers size and physicality for certain matchups. Not saying Turner isn’t a good player or even very good defender but the interior is not a strength of this team in a conference with great big men. I agree that they by the end of the season they’re gonna be in a position to give anyone a tough series, but I just think those teams are better. Thanks for the feedback and good luck to you and your pacers this season 🙏🏻
Delusional Hali and Siakam are one of worst Duo’s in the league. Needed a lot of help from their role players
As a blazer fan, Billups is the worst coach in the league. HOWEVER,
1. All of our best players, we kept.
2. We added Avdija and Clingan
3. Simons, Grant, Ayton, Robert Williams, and Sharpe missed about 200 games combined last year!!
4. Our rookies from last year (Scoot, Camara, etc.) will be 2nd year players
I would bet my life that Portland wins more games than the "Detroit Pistons." lmao and wouldn't be surprised if they're 10th seed or better.
Anyways I agree w most of your list regardless lol
I agree with the top of your list for the most part, but the bottom feels very optimistic for a lot of these teams. I really doubt that the Pistons do anything of note, the Bulls seem too high, just in general there aren't nearly enough teams in the 'Rebuilding' category. I think people are generally way too high on the Kings too. But otherwise it's a fine list.
32:19 DeHave, Dallas jumped from 21st place to 2nd last season😮
Kings just got Dougie McBuckets we going all the way now!!! jk nice video
Let’s go!! lol I have heard a big move is could be coming after the McDaniels trade, do you know anything about that? Also thanks I’m glad you enjoyed it 🙏🏻
Maxey injured pg injuried jarred McCain injured embid injuried what’s wrong the 76ers
We’re cursed, that’s whats wrong with us 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️😭😂
Cleveland Rocks with DeHave
I genuinely don't see a world where the warriors arent low playin or worse
hornets gonna be 5th seed
said nobody ever
At best a 8th seed and even that’s pushing it
You funny bro 😎
Great list I would just move BOS down to elite and CHA up to Celtics
When the grizz win alot of games u gonna say u always knew they wud be good 💀
I do think they’ll win a lot of games AND be good lol did you watch the video?
When i heard the name Wiseman, i thought this guy is not very serious about his list.
I can’t stand the bucks disrespect. Especially giannis and dame. Give the most dominant player in the world the 2nd best shooter in nba history, and one of the best scorers of this era in dame who still has one, maybe two years left of his prime, they will just be unstoppable this season. I don’t want anybody who was not riding the bucks to jump on once they see how good giannis & dame can really be.
So I’m disrespecting the bucks because I don’t agree with your take on them?
What do you disagree with? Giannis being the most dominant? Dame being 2nd best shooter? Them being unstoppable together?
Btw the Bucks just lost to the Nets, who are supposed to be the worst team in the NBA
If the blazers were out east they wouldn’t even be close to the wizards.
Bro I'm sorry but the Pistons aren't going to magically push into the Play-In this year, It's just not happening.
Cmon man the Celtics aren’t a whole tier above anyone else. They are the best but a whole tier is disrespectful to the Knicks, Bucks, and 76ers. There is a little bit of glaze with that one 😂
the only team you named that’s somewhat close is the knicks, the sixers ans bucks don’t come close to the celtics, lakers fan btw
Glaze? I’m a 76ers fan lol idk how you could possibly think anyone is on their level? Make it make sense?
😂😂😂 What have the Thunder, 76rs, Magic, Kings, and Suns, "proven" It's always the Grizzlies that have to "prove it" never go off of realistic projections with the Grizzlies
I understand being unbiased but if we are being honest knicks still have no answer for a healthy embiid no matter how many wings they have kat and robinson is too small
Keyword: Healthy
@@arrogen2831 i mean an injured embiid still put up 33 10 and 5 so
@@_JustReal_215 and an injured embiid lost in 6 to those same knicks without their free agent acquisitions
I still didnt hear a answer for embiid your still making me right buddy
@@_JustReal_215Embiid will have to defend KAT , he’s lazy now you think he ll get better with age. He ll score 35 and give up 30. I ll take that.
You just ranked Houston starting unit as the 10th best in the West and their bench as the 1st, but the team is 11th? Doesn't add up. Do you mean having the best bench in the conference will hurt the starters' performance, or do you just can't let those geriatric teams that have already been at the end of play-in ranking last year go?
Those teams all have superstar players or borderline superstar players, rockets do not
@@DeHave Tell that to last week's DeHave. He ranked Houston above Warriors, Clips, and Spurs. Three teams that have multiple HoFs in their starting lineups.
@lamutix last weeks DeHave made me laugh 😂 so are you talking about the tier list or the western conference predictions video?
@@DeHaveI am talking about the starting lineups and bench rankings videos from last week, where Houston was 10th and 1st respectively. I believe the tier list video was a month ago? Houston was 12th there, but that's ancient history in internet time.
I was talking about this tier list video, only reason I ask is because I’m not sure if you’re saying the rockets are playoff caliber based on the staring 5 and bench rankings I did (I have them in Playin Caliber, top of playin caliber.)… and your criticism was that I had them 11th overall, just trying to clarify!
Joker is good but he is NOT the best player in the world 😂...just stop it!
You’re trolling right?
@@DeHavemaybe he needs to win 4 MVPs in 5 years to get this guy's seal of approval
@callumsmith5819 Don't get me wrong he is a great player, just not the best in my opinion. Embid busts his azz everytime they play so... While KD, Bron, and Steph are still in the league then the Joker is just gonna have to take a back seat
@@ryanlambert1265Embiid would be that good if he wasn't averaging 58 games a year. So would be Kawhi. Being healthy and available matters. I give your thinking very highly of LBJ, SC and KD to the Olympics hype. Those guys are grandpas and none of them are in the top 5 anymore. They can't play the 82-game season at that age. Just look where their teams ended last year.
What is it with the Embid fanboys? Would it help if I told you that Embid says Jokic is the best in the world? Nah, didn’t think so..