Cause in the 80's, we 15-year-old boys saw Kelly LeBroc, Christie Brinkley, Elle Macpherson and Kathy Ireland as our dream girls. So, we the target demographic totally bought into this.
Lisa was the representation of their ideal women. She represented what the boys THOUGHT they wanted. She, along with the boys, learned very quickly that that's not what she was there for. She turns into the big sister/wing-woman figure VERY quickly, therefore consent as we think of it now isn't an issue for the film. You had to have that brief moment of awkward sexual fantasy because that was the initial plot of the film, but the real subtext of the story develops from that. It wouldn't have worked the same if she was a teenager like them - mostly because the entire plot would have to be changed to accommodate a teen antagonist and a teen wouldn't have had the same mature outlook that Lisa did. It's always fascinating seeing younger people react to films I loved while growing up.
Consent of what? She's not human and was created. They was literally born yesterday and these 15 year olds are dating some AI doll they created. How old she LOOKS is not how old she IS.
@@xejelah For fucking real, so sick of the modern SJW "affirmative consent" bullshit, who wants to take their time and ruin the fucking mood by going all lawyer and getting approval for every little thing.
"Why are we wearing bras on our heads?" "Ceremonial" is a top notch archeology joke because 'Ceremonial' is what archeologists say when they mean "We have no idea".
"Writing a fantasy short story; as an anthropologist, feel compelled to create a detailed ethnographic treatise for each and every culture mentioned first." F yeah anthropology
The 23 year old was the boys' fantasy. And honestly its perfectly normal for boys to fantasize about women that age, especially celebrities or whatever. It wasn't meant to be a REAL 23 year old... hell, she was just "born" that same day. She was also basically their slave, which is even more f'd up... IF you overthink it. But thats not really how you're supposed to look at it. She was some weird fluke of computer magic (it was the 80s, computers were mysterious af) she wasnt a "real" person. It shouldnt be taken literally.
She wasn't really their slave though. The boys thought she was, but she was more of a magical guide. Giving them what they needed not wanted. The only implication she did more was the panties, but he actually passed out.
I think Ashleigh understood WHY the woman was 23, she was just making the point that once a fantasy becomes a reality, the ick factor has to be dealt with.
Only time a boy would do that if he met a young girl that looks more than a woman. When I was just outta high school, been shocked before by a girlfriend's cousin. I saw her and my jaw dropped then heard how young she was and that's jailbait. Same happened to my friend asking who is my sister's friend is and it was her 10 year old daughter. Always a problem even when they babies looking 5 year old. 2 or 3 looking 10. Twice the size of his kid that looked like a skinny runt and I know his family sprouts way later in life.
One of the best memories of my life was when I was 16 (in 1985) having just moved to Southern California my mom took me to see a double feature The Karate Kid, Followed by Weird Science and an ice cream Sunday after the movies. Love you mom RIP
Seems many people only focus on the surface and don't look deeper. She gave the boys what they needed, not wanted, then moved on. Very mythological type of story.
The thing with John Hughes movies is... you had to be a teen during that time to really understand. I'm a Gen Xer and John Hughes really spoke to my generation. He seemed to understand how it was for us kids in the 80s. Sure a lot of his movies took teen stereotypes and dialed them to 11, but the basis for them were grounded in reality too. I encountered many of those stereotypes throughout junior high and high school. And there's still one more core John Hughes film you need to see... Pretty In Pink.
@@chrisleebowers you kind of answered your own question. He made movies that resonated with kids who were learning to be adults while also being ignored. When kids are left up to their own devices, you get some really weird shit that translates well to the screen.
Agreed. If she only watches one more John Hughes movie in her lifetime, it should be Pretty in Pink. That one has a better and more believable storyline, in my opinion.
10:20 - Reportedly during the filming of that scene, he actually stuck his tongue in her mouth, and after the take was over, she told him that if he ever did that again, she'd kick his ass. 20:58 - Michael Berryman, who is most famous for playing one of the mutants in the original version of The Hills Have Eyes. Berryman was born with a rare condition causing him to have no hair (not even eyebrows), fingernails, teeth or sweat glands. Because of his unusual appearance, he usually plays villains, although he has played a handful of good characters.
Correct about the kiss. There's still tension between the actors. All of the lead actors did a group interview recently and Kelly Lebrock still has obvious disdain for the actor who kissed her.
I absolutely love that Bill Paxton, by all accounts a charming, decent, and handsome dude, played Wyatt's brother so well that he totally disappears into this repugnant character. There is nothing at all likeable about him (I feel like often actors play villains as antiheros bc they're afraid to truly be ugly or gross). He totally turns my stomach and steals every scene he's in.
Damn right! I was teenager in the 80s and it was glorious! We didn't get offended over stuff like nowadays. We knew it was a fun movie and it was fiction. We just enjoyed it!
I think what was missed is that Lisa is a Genie. I believe this was pretty clear to viewers in the 80's who watched shows like I Dream of Genie. As with every Genie she appears to be there to fulfill any wish / fantasy they have while working on a grander agenda. She is there to help them loosen up, not be afraid of meeting new people & stand up for themselves - basically help them gain confidence.
The thing that worked least well for me in the entire movie is the stated objective that Lisa does anything the boys want. Technically she does that, but in reality she does a whole heck of a lot of things that they *don't* want or ask for.
Yes, 55 year old woman here. This movie came out the year I graduated high school. You are not wrong in your reaction, Ashleigh. It was a bit uncomfortable to me. But I had close male friends who said they would have been totally down with that situation. So there you go. Also, Bill Paxton was the brother and yes that is Robert Downey, Jr.
The thing about Lisa (beyond the fact that despite her looks she is only two days old) is that she never intends to have sex with these boys no matter what they wish for. She's just leading them on to boost their egos and teach them lessons. There's really only two scenes that toe a sexual line for her mentorship of them, but note there is a line being drawn by the movie even if it's not as harsh as folks would draw today. She showers in front of them, but all they mostly are looking at is her back. Also, if they're plastered to the shower wall too afraid to take off their pants, odds are good they were too afraid to do or request anything more in that shower than we were shown. This is further emphasized by her having the Mad Max warriors at the party mention it, to motivate the boys to stand up for themselves (as well as letting them know they weren't in true danger). The most charged thing she does is teach Wyatt to kiss and stick her underwear on him, and the latter could easily have been done using her technology magic after he fell asleep. Even her mention of performing a gymnastics routine for him is treated like she really knew nothing would ever happen. Very convenient that he just fell asleep, leading to the possibility she either knew he would in advance or arranged for him to fall asleep. She's a boy's fantasy, a mentor, and a technological genie, but she is never anyone's lover. She plays along with their ideas to a degree to build their confidence, before she flips everything on its head to challenge them, help them stand on their own, and find stuff that's real and will make them happy in the long run. That's why she has to be older than them. Also, imagine how problematic it would be for them to create a teen girl from pictures out of Playboy magazine. It's interesting how folks are disturbed by the visual age gap these days but nobody thinks as much about the fact that she provides copious amounts of alcohol to them and other minors. It's kinda a fascinating look at which bad or questionable behaviors our society is more accepting of or aware of. Really glad you watched the movie, and that you got some good laughs from it. Real Genius was my favorite of the highschool super science shenanigans movies, and I hope you get a chance to watch that in future too. It stars Val Kilmer, who also starred in Willow.
Long but well worth the read. You explain things well. I especially was surprised and pleased with your alcohol comment. It was actually pretty cool that you caught on to that. I mentioned a thought in another comment that Lisa is really only 1 day old. The only way WE say she's 23 is someone randomnly says it and she looks certainly older then they. (Upon retyping this, this realization may be even More problematic). Also, if Lisa was a teen, why the hell would they trade her in for 2 normal teen girls , who Wouldn't do whatever they said and could do magic? That's crazy talk.
Bill Paxton as Chet is the worst big brother in the history of cinema. Again, a hyper-real vision of what we all thought our mean older siblings were like.
Paxton was in Aliens too, which is probably why he looked familiar to her. Another annoying character in Aliens, known for the line "Game over, man." He was in Titanic too, but in a less cringy role.
Its pretty sad how people today react to movies from the 80's like everything is crossing the line.I'm so glad I grew up in that time, everything was so much more fun.
Yes! Thank you! People today overreact to everything. They're like hyper sensitive neurotic hall monitors. They need everything to be so sanitized and sterile or it upsets their fragile psyche; and because of that everything produced is predictable and boring.
Girls be more concerned with height than age. Wasn't back then, probably more than a decade after the 80's but I remember. So of course young women twice as old they'd ask my cousins how tall over 6' they were but never their age. That side of the family around 12 or 13 sprout up around 6'5" and the younger brother had a real baby face no matter how old he got. Quite the opposite of late bloomers, they very early bloomers.
The whole point is the age difference is SUPPOSED to be icky. Lisa is trying to teach them that their adolescent sex-crazed ideal of the “perfect woman” isn’t what they really want or need, and could actually CREATE problems for them.
This is a ridiculously stupid movie with a ridiculously stupid concept but still one of my favorites from the 80s and still makes me laugh to this day.
@@jlbarnesthis may be a bit of a stretch but I believe it unfortunately glamorizes pedophilia in a way. I didn't see that when I was a teenager obviously but I have a different perspective now. I literally have to look at the movie from a teenager's point of view and it's still funny.
It's so sad that things have gotten so out of hand in today's world... Weird Science being troubling today shows how far we've fallen as a society. It was a movie for you teen boys. Back then, we weren't so easily offended as people are today. We had fun for the sake of having fun. Watching the reaction on this channel sometimes get's me worried for today's kids. She gets upset about something said... but, at the same time, wants to laugh so badly. As if anyone on here would be offended she wants to laugh. Weird Science, not only stands the test of time, it is a blueprint on how NOT to take one's self so seriously. Have fun... laugh for the sake of laughing... and PLEASE, don't be offended by a movie about trivial things. Boys used to be boys... had fun... and were awkward doing it.
Sad part is being offended by the movie yet ok with how worse thing have gotten in reality. Attack fiction to turn a blind eye? Look out the door at how people act now quite the opposite of what they say. Just can't take them serious.
SKOW was a great illustration of how we often want a fantasy when reality is right in front of us...and in the case of Mary Stuart Masterson, reality is better! A much better film than Weird Science imho.
Hall's delivery of the line, "He don't have his license, Lisa." was always one of my favorite parts in Weird Science. We used to say that line all the time back then. 😭
I was a teen in the 80s. Many 80s teen comedy films, especially this one, just assumed a hyper-reality. Nothing was taken literally. The humor has NOT aged well, but the context back then was more surreal.
Pure escapism to avoid the state of the world. Come to think of it, we're either lagging behind or people are too afraid of making wholly unrealistic, playful stories anymore for fear of offending someone.
I remember something that we had recorded on VHS that I watched a bunch when I was young that was called... Remote Control Man? Looking it up... Okay, so it was an episode of the show Amazing Stories (1985), apparently. But it's a similar theme as what I'm guessing that Stay Tuned did (haven't heard of it) and a similar theme as what Pleasantville later did as well. (Not the same as them. Just in the same ball park.) In Remote Control Man, a guy who's not happy with his life and family acquires a magic TV remote that he uses to make characters from the shows come to life in his house.
Another way to think of this, Lisa's actual age is 0. She did not exist until they created her, even though she has a fully mature body, and knowledge a new born could not have, unless born from a magical computer.
Correction; she was to look like a 23 year old woman. She was actually only a couple of days old, and not a real human considering all the science and powers stuff. This one is best thought of as a complete fictional fantasy jaunt and not allow yourself to get wrapped up in trying to use normal ethics to judge the impossible.
Exactly, because if the "ideal" had been a 16-year old, say, who was able to teach them the things Lisa taught them, that wouldn't have been just as icky (or maybe even more so)?
@@i.marchand4655 Also the age of consent thing, varies state by state. I live in a state where the age of consent is 16, in the next state over it's 18.
Ashleigh, if you’re going to watch older movies, you kind of have to take off your PC hat and enjoy the show. Our filters were pretty minimal back then. Basically what John Hughes does is say what everybody is thinking, but is afraid to say it. Believe it or not the boys today are still thinking the same thing.
Exactly. In fact, when I went out of town with my parents, my older brother and sister threw a party, and handed out flyers at school to everyone, complete with a map and directions!
After watching this film for more times than I can count over 30+ years, I finally had an epiphany and realized that this film is the live-action version of the Dr. Suess classic, The Cat in the Hat.
I have another question to pose here, concerning the "Ick!" factor: If Lisa is iky because she SEEMS to be 23 when the boys are 15... why aren't all the vampires who are up in their 100s-plus "Icky" for going after teen-age girls? Is it just because they look younger than they really are? Or is there some other reason why Stefan, Damon, Edward, etc are exempt?
I DON'T think they should be exempt, but I am in the minority. Until the newer incarnations of Dr Who there were multiple times when human women crushed on the Doctor but the Doctor never should interest in them "in that way" and I always thought that made sense. Not only is he an alien but being hundreds of years old he would have difficulty interacting with a 20 something year old human in a romantic ,equal footing, way. It WOULD be kind of pedophilic. I was a bit disappointed when they made it so the Doctor could somehow be attracted to Rose Tyler. But what can you do?
@@mattmanyam - * raises hand * I'm not. But then I'm an old fart that still remembers ( and loves ) Sarah Jane. Broke my heart when Liz Sladen died, the same as it did when Diana Rigg ( Emma Peel ) passed on.
@@whatsawhizzerwebnovels4927 - They were actually 15 and 16 years old at the time, one being born in 1968, the other in 1969. Kelly LeBrock was 25. ( 1985 was the movie's release date. It was shot the year before. )
Nothing from the 1980's should be viewed through the PC lenses of the 2000's. Back then we didn't get offended by much of anything and could understand the difference between a joke and real life. Mel Brooks, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, George Carlin... the funniest comedians of all time couldn't survive in today's political climate.
OK...I feel like Ashleigh really has totally forgotten about Uncle Buck. She did not talk about it in her reaction/review of Sixteen Candles, and she completely ignores it in this one too...unless she gets around to it at the end. It just makes me sad that she keeps forgetting about a John Hughes movie she totally loved when she saw it. ✌💯 Also, how Ashleigh is it for Ashleigh to get excited that Bill Paxton is in this, and then not recognize Bill Paxton when he comes on screen??? 🤣🤣🤣
Ashleigh screens two movies a week, for months, when others of her age group simply read headlines. It is a LOT of content to consume, with several decades of actors to remember. I am always amazed at the level of recall she is able to demonstrate.
Humans and I think really all animals are predisposed to remember bad stuff over good stuff. It makes sense as the bad stuff could kill you and remembering to avoid the bad stuff means you survive long enough to have descendants.
I am not surprised at all. She is quite naive and pretty oblivious most times. Hell, she HAD to ask why this kid has bras and a barbie doll in his room....it was CLEARLY mentioned he has a sister, which is where he got those items. This kind of thing happens far too often with Ashliegh, despite being entertaining it's quite annoying.
The age gap was never an issue for me because Lisa was never with them really. Her purpose was to give them confidence to be with girls their own age. Also, high school was hyper sexual into the 90s.
'Weird Science' is 'Mary Poppins' for teenage boys, and has basically the same plot. Just like Mary Poppins, Lisa comes out of thin-air to help. She uses magic to make amazing/impossible things happen. She takes Gary and Wyatt on incredible adventures, and in the end she fixes their problems and solves their issues by teaching them how to find the courage to overcome their struggles and boost their self-esteem themselves instead of using her magic directly to just make them and their lives better. Then, once everything is fixed and back to normal and the boys are better people, she disappears from their lives on a breeze.
He's about coming of age with those movies, which focuses on the struggles teens worry about as they move into adulthood. This explains his approach to the themes and his movies, especially in The Breakfast Club. I think the reason she had to be older is a lot of the movie surrounded the idea of growing up and maturing. She's that gateway that represents the transition from teen to becoming an adult. This wouldn't have worked if they had created a girl that was their same age.
26:28 @Ashley Burton - “Why couldn’t John Hughes have made the girl the same age as the boys?” As an old-fart who watched this film when it was first released (I was 15), I gotta tell you; I LOVED IT! I guess our attitudes & standards were pretty problematic by today’s standards, but this film knew who its target audience was. 😏 Kelly Le Brock was THE fantasy of most 15-30something year old dudes back in the 80s. And as problematic as it might be, a huge part of the film’s appeal was the overt sexualization of Kelly Le Brock. Yes, the age-gap is weird, but just imagine how weird it would have been if the film was sexualizing a 15 year old girl (yikes!)😬
Yep; I’d argue she was ageless. Between her age being “grown up” and her British accent, she had the ability to come off as wise and teach them life lessons that would not have worked if she was some random hot teenager. The fact that she was attractive wasn’t really the point, she was teaching them to find confidence in themselves.
The genius of John Hughes writing in his teen comedies was not to shy away from the truth of the hormone driven thoughts of male adolescents. He puts a voice to all the weird, dirty, perverted thoughts that run through our minds at that age. There's a reality to it that many of us might not want to admit to...at least publicly. 🤣 Weird Science is the culmination of all that, warts and all.
honestly, the opening sequence with the guys standing there watching the girl's gym class, talking about wanting to shower with the girls, I felt like it was a mirror into my young teenage soul. I don't think any of my friends ever really stood around and articulated it to that extent, but we certainly thought stuff like that, and talked about things like that to an extent. Hormones were going crazy and we were curious as all hell about sex and all of that, and then you work out in gym and sometimes the girl's gym class is doing stuff nearby and you got to check some of the girls you liked out, etc. Most Hollywood films never really captured the essence of realism to it that I found in moments of John Hughes films.
I gotta disagree with you on making Lisa a teenager would've been less disturbing. Also I'd say that despite her playful flirting, Lisa was more into mentoring the boys rather than indulging their sexual fantasies.
When I hear you comment on the hair in the 80s….GIRL. My hair was so big back then I had to apply for a building permit. My friends and I carried giant cans of Aquanet in our purses and fluffed our hair up during the day. You’d open the bathroom door and it smelled like a beauty shop, just clouds and clouds of hairspray wafting out into the hallway. No one smoked in the bathroom, it would have blown the place up.
This is an 80’s take on the Cinderella story. The little bit you saw is actually all that happened between her and them sexually. She wasn’t there to be their girlfriend she was there to make them cool.
I would say _most_ folks still think computers are basically magic, including Hollywood screenwriters. If I had a dollar for every time a movie or tv showed someone frantically typing on a keyboard for 30 seconds, then exclaiming "I'm in!!" I'd be rich. Never thought of the Djinn theory before, but it makes sense.
“If you’ve got an upset tummy and you gotta fart, you’re literally at a party, just crop-dust everybody. There’s so many people they’re not gonna know it was you, the music’s so loud they’re not gonna hear it - pffttht.” 🤦♀️🤣
12:10 That is a VERY young Robert Downey, Jr.! Yeah, that's kid-sized Iron Man right there! Incidentally, you can see more of him and hear more Oingo Boingo (who did the theme song) in Back To School, a comedy classic you MUST check out!
"If the roles were reversed, this would be disgusting!" ...should we re review Dirty Dancing? A 17yr old minor with the name of Baby with a full grown 24yr old man... who she danced with then did the horizontal polka with? It's strictly a PoV of the times. No one was saying nothing with mobs of 40 yr olds stalking, chasing, and forming lines with signs saying, "We love you Taylor!" or "Team Jacob" when in real life Taylor Lautner was 17 doing "Twilight." The scarier thing I feel is the latter. It was like when guys couldn't wait for the Olsen twins to be of age... like... wtf guys. Just like Dirty Dancing was made for the romantic hopeful girls, this was made for the boys who thought older women would be uh, exciting. It's about the audience.
"Why couldn't John Huges made her their age." Because in the 80s, people were more happy and knew the difference between a fantasy and reality when it came to movies. If the 20s are so "Progressed" and right, then why are more people admitting they are unhappier than ever before? (Even before the pandemic)
The blond hair with the side ponytail was a fashion statement that lasted longer than the character who inspired it, Chrissy Snow on Three's Company. She had that style because a hunk of her hair came out and needed to be covered up. There wasn't a hair craze like that until the Rachel.
@@Nueztoy There's a video on YT that tells the story of her assistant bleaching her hair and it started to fall out and the only way to cover it was with a big clumpy ponytail on the side of her head, it was supposed to be a one time thing but it became popular so they had her style it that way in every episode. Les Nessman on WKRP had a thing too, he wore a bandaid in every episode because he cut his finger before filming the pilot so he added it to his character to imply he's clumsy and gets paper cuts a lot.
I'd like to add, Bill Paxton as Chet, was definitely playing against character. By all accounts he was the nicest person you could ever be lucky enough to meet, even in an industry that turns people into monsters. Watching Sigourney Weaver, in interviews; speak about her friend Bill, made me like the both of them even more. For next Hallowbeans, I would love for you to react to the film "Near Dark", which starred Bill Paxton. It's a very gritty modern western with vampires and was directed by Kathryn Bigelow (ex wife of James Cameron and director of "The Foot Locker" and "Zero Dark Thirty" .
This was always my least favourite Hughes movie even back in the 80s. But John wasn't just focused on the sex lives of high school kids, he was capturing a part of the 80s in the kind of alienation and clique-ishness of the time. This is before it was ok...even cool, to be a nerd. You have to consider the time. Home computers were new and the internet consisted mainly of bulletin boards. Google didn't even launch until 1998. We were latchkey kids, mainly raising ourselves and we saw something of ourselves in the characters Hughes created. While his movies might not always hold the test of time, they do hold a piece of our hearts. I'll stop getting sentimental now. :)
Very true. I remember coming home after school when no one else was home. I would do whatever I wanted until they came home from work. Then it was homework and dinner.
It was just me, my mom and my sister. As a teen, I quickly became the man of the house, always looking after my sis to school, from school, etc. Latchkey kids had a lot of responsibility placed on us at a young age.
I really think she's overthinking this one. it was a fun, entertaining movie with a unique concept. If the focus was on the age gap and if explored in the movie as a salient point, then yes, dwell on it, but it was pretty innocent
@@robertneblett4477 This! Exactly this! No matter how much we loved it and want others to love them, making them continuously watch them isn't going to make her love them. Probably push her away from them even more.
@@TheHockeywitch what’s even funnier ( sadly) is that she finds nothing wrong with calling women and even little girls “ dumb bitches” which she does all the time. In the millennial world that’s ok
Fun fact, this movie spawned a TV series in the mid 90's on USA network starting Vanessa Angel. It did moderately well considering everyone thought it would be a bomb, and lasted for 5 seasons before being canceled. I think Lee Tergesen stole the show however, as Chet (and it's hard to top Bill Paxton from the movie.) Of Wayne's World headbanger fame, he later went on to star in HBO's "Oz" as Tobias Beecher.
I have fond memories of that show. I remember watching it thinking it would bomb as well but it was pretty hilarious at times and won me over. The problem/gadget of the week TV format worked in its favor.
Yes of course that was why it was a comedy and ridiculous. it showed teenage boys that what they think they want isn't what they really want. Also, I could totally see a 80s movie where two teenage girls make an older (23 year old!!) man to be their ideal.
I personally think Wargames is a very important movie that most people should watch at least once. It must have been quite scary watching that at the height of the cold war in the 80s, even as an adult. I just have great memories of watching that with my parents at the time (I would have been about 6 or 7), but I didn't fully understand the fear, of course. And now look - Wargames has become very relevant again in today's climate, sadly. Also, the movie is just awesome. A true classic.
I like watching the overly dramatic reactions of millennials to the times I grew up in. We did what we wanted and didn't get offended by every little thing. I miss those days.
@@lynnjohanssen6552 Compared to now, where any kid can browse hardcore porn on his cellphone that mommy and daddy felt compelled to get him for his 10th (or younger even) birthday, I'd say the 80's were pretty damn tame. :)
@@brianjones8432 Exactly! The hyprocrisy today is mind-boggling!... Social networks these days are creating mental health issues much worse than anything the 80's ever put out!
@@brianjones8432exactly. Back then, it was hard work to actually see porn. I remember me and my friends making a plan to get a fake ID and rent the Tracy Lords X rated movie from the mall video store. It was like the Oceans 11 heist.
As for the hypersexualization in 80's teen movies, that wasn't just John Hughes. If anything, John toned it down compared to other movies of the era, especially ones like Fast Times at Ridgemont High (which is a great movie too and definitely worth seeing, but also carries a warranted R rating...). In comparison, Weird Science is pretty tame. The worst that happens is the scene where Lisa teaches Wyatt how to kiss.
I immediately thought of Porky's. Hit the replies and see that someone else mentioned it too. Yep, the 80s had lots of sex filled teen movies. It was great!
@@shawnski001 OMG! Imagine Ashleigh reviewing Porky's. Most of the review would be her just screaming "I saw a titty!" or "That's a butt!". I'm sure her head would just explode at all of the penises.
i LOVE the bar scene. Is it a bit feeding into stereotypes of the times, yes. As a black woman did we give a damn in the 80's, hell no. We just like to see representation where we weren't the villains.
There's similar scenes in Animal House, Adventures in Babysitting, even in Charlies Angels 2000 when they go to Soul Train, and it's all pretty much the same joke: "OMG scary black people! Oh wait, they're not scary once the white people stop clutching their pearls and relax, they're actually really welcoming and inclusive, and now the white people have become slightly cooler simply having been exposed to them" But they did sometimes lean into some cringey stereotypes to make the joke work.
Yes but it's a modern white thing to be offended on behalf of black people even though the actors themselves are black and were perfectly capable of accepting or turning down the roles in this movie. If a white person doesn't act sufficiently offended on behalf of black people, they (white people) are scared to death of being cancelled.
@@chrisleebowers I agree with almost everything you said except that in Animal House the guys abandon their dates because they are afraid to say no to the Black men asking to dance with them and the women are too scared to say no and the Black people come off looking predatory. Yes the White people don't look great but it isn't made clear that they shouldn't have been afraid of the Black people. I find that scene really uncomfortable. Your right that sometimes in trying to do something positive like the Soul Train scene in Charlies' Angels they sometimes give a weird message, Like Soul Train isn't White friendly until Cameran Diaz makes it safe for White people.
Not sure if this was mentioned, the party when the bikers come in, the one says, "i'd hate to lose my teaching job".. the point of that line is that actor played the teacher/principal in the Motley Crue - Smoking in the Boys Room video..
her goal was never to be with them but to build them up so they could get girlfriends, bill paxton was hudson in aliens and the car salesmen in true lies, the guy that yells at the end is from a movie called MAD MAX so the references are pretty funny. it's a funny movie if you view Lisa as a fairy godmother just there to help them out...in skimpy clothes lol
@@gabriellevazquez6618 More accurately still, he was in Mad Max 2 (1981), which arguably is one of those sequels that's better than the original. (Also in Commando (1985) and Inner Space (1987). ;-) )
"There are three main types of movie nerds. One is an academic stereotype who doesn't talk much. The second is a hilarious weirdo who would be totally popular if he wasn't in a movie script. In Weird Science, Anthony Michael Hall perfected the third: the nerd whose sexual frustration has driven him insane. "Hall performs in Weird Science like his captured family will be killed if he's not funny. He packs more manic desperation into his lines than a dry-humping seventh grader. He delivers lines in ways that would make Christopher Walken say, "What A strange WAY to deLIVer your LINES." --Seanbaby
A couple friends of mine had an interaction with him at a hotel bar during a comic-con a few years back. Apparently his ego from being a big actor in the 80’s and thinking he was still relevant made him infinitely unlikeable and he was acting like a douche. Nothing really to do with your comment, but the “driven him insane” part stuck out because it felt like he was insane in that interaction they had/witnessed, they said.
@@charlesedwards2856 that is odd. My friends and I had the pleasure to meet him a comic con and it was the opposite. Although he had to "sush"(fingered raised)us for a second to hear what his agent???? was saying he turned and apologized and was very down to earth and chatted with for about 5 or so minutes. Saw him later on that day and he was friendly then as well. 🤷♂️
I was 18 and a senior in high school when most of these movies came out. Honestly where I was, we didn't really think about the director or his message when we saw them. They were just simply "the brat pack movies" We related to the students and actors and we wanted to see what they did. Not much more than that. Pretty in pink 16 candles The breakfast club St elms fire Wierd science Better off dead The outsiders About last night Wisdom We just went in and had a good time. If you want a throwback movie watch not another teen movie lol
Ashleigh, it was NOT Willow that came in after Weird Science, it was Spinal Tap. Willow was in 4th place, well behind Spinal Tap. I don't mind if you watch Willow, but PLEASE don't skip over Spinal Tap! I've been waiting for you to watch that movie for the longest time! 😭
Lisa was so much more like a supernatural entity than an actual human woman...like she was some sort of love goddess or something that chose to help them out...its a very anime life story line. The 80's&90's were very hypersexualized, full send.
She was a genie. there was a tv series based off the movie. Lisa is revealed to be a genie. but she's also still a computer program that is running off of wyatt's computer. if the computer is shut off, she ceases to exist. but she comes back once it's turned back on. also the characters ages are more closer to one another. it ran 5 seasons. so gary and wyatt start off as late teens and end up about 21 at the end. same as as Lisa is supposed to be in the series. she doesn't age.
Seeing RDJ at this age makes me want to go watch some of his best movies from the late 80’s and early 90’s! -Chances Are -Only You -Heart and Souls He had so many classics!
@@Kaddywompous RDJ is pretty spazzy in 'Back to School', but to really see his range back then, 'Less Than Zero' is the movie to watch. It's a shame he didn't learn from his character about the dangers of drugs though.
Always loved this movie. "Chips, dip, chains and whips" became a saying with my friends from this movie. It was funny that the girls actually liked Lisa as much as the guys did. (Usually for different reasons). Also the run time was standard in the 80s. These movies were made for theaters not streaming or video and a 90min runtime let theaters get the most shows in in a day. If you look almost every movie from that time period is around 90min give or take a few min.
I feel like the point about Lisa's age has been mentioned by others... and want to add that I think it would be MORE cringey if they had made a teenage girl for their own sexual fantasies, no? I think that would have icked me out WAY more... both back in the 80s when I saw this for the first time and also now.
yeah I think its because if we see them the same age our brains would just be hard wired to instantly go into a "non consensual" storm of no-no-no's where as modern society has us programed to see the older woman as harmless to these two obviously very socially and female awkward boys. I still think the idea that she's harmless to them is wrong though because there is no part of this that doesn't instantly make me wanna reach for a 911 hotline when I think of a role reversal of this movie. I've tried and failed several times!
Well if ya think about it she was just created or born so a few seconds old in comparison to the boys. Created as 23 or looking 23 are two different things. One is jailbait the other isn't. Same with vampires being a few thousand years old and still in high school and all sparkly. lol Girls love an older man it seems. Boys want someone who looks like a woman.
Classicest line ever. "Tell me something, what's a beautiful woman like you doing with a couple of young malacas like this?" "Its purely sexual." "No shit?" 😂
You need to see the movie the Graduate to fully understand the older women and the younger men trope. This fantasy developed after that movie came out and since then it was sort of a trope find in movies for a couple decades to come. Later on it got a resurgence as the term cougar was invented to describe older women seeking younger inexperienced men.
Young people go for older people because they want to think they are as experienced and capable as those older people. Plus older people are more fully developed. And yes, for some reason young guys going after an older women was/is just more acceptable than younger girls going after an older guy. But there was this one episode of A Different World where the college girls were fawning over a youngish hot professor. The fantasy paths are just different.
Cause in the 80's, we 15-year-old boys saw Kelly LeBroc, Christie Brinkley, Elle Macpherson and Kathy Ireland as our dream girls. So, we the target demographic totally bought into this.
Exactly. These were literally the women in the posters hung up in bedrooms. That is why it is fantasy.
Yes!!!👌👏👏👏👏
And Samantha Fox for those of us with body hair.
Rachel Hunter!
And Gosh Darn now They are in their 60s, 70s!!!👩🦼
Lisa was the representation of their ideal women. She represented what the boys THOUGHT they wanted. She, along with the boys, learned very quickly that that's not what she was there for. She turns into the big sister/wing-woman figure VERY quickly, therefore consent as we think of it now isn't an issue for the film. You had to have that brief moment of awkward sexual fantasy because that was the initial plot of the film, but the real subtext of the story develops from that. It wouldn't have worked the same if she was a teenager like them - mostly because the entire plot would have to be changed to accommodate a teen antagonist and a teen wouldn't have had the same mature outlook that Lisa did. It's always fascinating seeing younger people react to films I loved while growing up.
Consent of what? She's not human and was created. They was literally born yesterday and these 15 year olds are dating some AI doll they created. How old she LOOKS is not how old she IS.
@@xejelah For fucking real, so sick of the modern SJW "affirmative consent" bullshit, who wants to take their time and ruin the fucking mood by going all lawyer and getting approval for every little thing.
"Why are we wearing bras on our heads?" "Ceremonial" is a top notch archeology joke because 'Ceremonial' is what archeologists say when they mean "We have no idea".
"Writing a fantasy short story; as an anthropologist, feel compelled to create a detailed ethnographic treatise for each and every culture mentioned first."
F yeah anthropology
"ritual significance" is another favourite
"Probably a fertility goddess of some kind..."
The 23 year old was the boys' fantasy. And honestly its perfectly normal for boys to fantasize about women that age, especially celebrities or whatever. It wasn't meant to be a REAL 23 year old... hell, she was just "born" that same day.
She was also basically their slave, which is even more f'd up... IF you overthink it. But thats not really how you're supposed to look at it. She was some weird fluke of computer magic (it was the 80s, computers were mysterious af) she wasnt a "real" person. It shouldnt be taken literally.
Indeed. This had me wondering is Ashleigh never hung posters of male celebrities up in her room. Maybe that was a pre 2000 phenomenon.
She wasn't really their slave though. The boys thought she was, but she was more of a magical guide. Giving them what they needed not wanted. The only implication she did more was the panties, but he actually passed out.
@@kingoglow2186 considered most of the fantasy material they had access to would have been magazines and that was the supermodel era.
@@alcockell yep and let's face it , IF they got regular adult magazines, Lisa would have been a centerfold
I think Ashleigh understood WHY the woman was 23, she was just making the point that once a fantasy becomes a reality, the ick factor has to be dealt with.
No 15 year old boy would build a 15 year old dream woman. The age-gap is pretty much bang on.
Exactly. The idea of inventing a 15 year old girl as a sex object to shower with, is not going to fly in most decades.
@@philwill0123 ty for mentipning it. that would be way worse. A 15 year old sex slave!😳👀🤦♂️
The only ick factor is her reaction.
Only time a boy would do that if he met a young girl that looks more than a woman.
When I was just outta high school, been shocked before by a girlfriend's cousin. I saw her and my jaw dropped then heard how young she was and that's jailbait. Same happened to my friend asking who is my sister's friend is and it was her 10 year old daughter. Always a problem even when they babies looking 5 year old. 2 or 3 looking 10. Twice the size of his kid that looked like a skinny runt and I know his family sprouts way later in life.
That doesn't make it okay.
One of the best memories of my life was when I was 16 (in 1985) having just moved to Southern California my mom took me to see a double feature The Karate Kid, Followed by Weird Science and an ice cream Sunday after the movies. Love you mom RIP
This movie makes infinitely more sense when you realize that Lisa is a genie, and they didn't create her... they *_summoned_* her.
That makes this movie make a tiny bit of sense.
The tv series was okay
Wow. Haven't ever heard that before, but your right. Makes much more sense. Lol.
I came here to say this so thanks.
Seems many people only focus on the surface and don't look deeper. She gave the boys what they needed, not wanted, then moved on. Very mythological type of story.
The thing with John Hughes movies is... you had to be a teen during that time to really understand. I'm a Gen Xer and John Hughes really spoke to my generation. He seemed to understand how it was for us kids in the 80s. Sure a lot of his movies took teen stereotypes and dialed them to 11, but the basis for them were grounded in reality too. I encountered many of those stereotypes throughout junior high and high school. And there's still one more core John Hughes film you need to see... Pretty In Pink.
well you said exactly what I said but better.
Why was John Hughes so obsessed with the sex lives of teenagers? Because every other film-maker up until him tried to pretend it didn't exist...
@@chrisleebowers It was definitely what young people wanted to see and we flocked to the theaters.
@@chrisleebowers you kind of answered your own question. He made movies that resonated with kids who were learning to be adults while also being ignored. When kids are left up to their own devices, you get some really weird shit that translates well to the screen.
Agreed. If she only watches one more John Hughes movie in her lifetime, it should be Pretty in Pink. That one has a better and more believable storyline, in my opinion.
10:20 - Reportedly during the filming of that scene, he actually stuck his tongue in her mouth, and after the take was over, she told him that if he ever did that again, she'd kick his ass.
20:58 - Michael Berryman, who is most famous for playing one of the mutants in the original version of The Hills Have Eyes. Berryman was born with a rare condition causing him to have no hair (not even eyebrows), fingernails, teeth or sweat glands. Because of his unusual appearance, he usually plays villains, although he has played a handful of good characters.
I remember Berryman as the teacher in Motley Crue's Smoking In The Boys room video.
Correct about the kiss. There's still tension between the actors. All of the lead actors did a group interview recently and Kelly Lebrock still has obvious disdain for the actor who kissed her.
I absolutely love that Bill Paxton, by all accounts a charming, decent, and handsome dude, played Wyatt's brother so well that he totally disappears into this repugnant character. There is nothing at all likeable about him (I feel like often actors play villains as antiheros bc they're afraid to truly be ugly or gross). He totally turns my stomach and steals every scene he's in.
*YOU’RE STEWED BUTTWAD*
Well said & ditto! Quoting Lisa “why do you have to be such a wanker?” Lmao 🤣
How bout a greasy pork sandwich, served in a dirty ashtray..
Gary: That's disgusting, Wyatt.
Wyatt: That's Chet, Gary.
@@DreadPirateRobrt lmao
This movie exemplifies the "Don't give a shit" attitude of the 80's. And, my God, is it glorious
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Damn right! I was teenager in the 80s and it was glorious! We didn't get offended over stuff like nowadays. We knew it was a fun movie and it was fiction. We just enjoyed it!
That describes the era of about 1976-1987. I think by 88-89 we were starting to get more PC and sensitive.
I say 89'. I've always argued that the 90's began in 89'.
@@periechontology " I've always argued that the 90's began in 89'. "
August of '89, "Shaka" when the walls fell. lol
I must be an old fashioned Gen Xer, but watching this as a preteen and as an early teen we never gave the age difference one thought.
Now that you mention it. This is very true. It never occured to me then
Gen z here. It never went through my mind
X co-sign here. We did not. It was perfect. We would never want a girl of our own age.
I think what was missed is that Lisa is a Genie. I believe this was pretty clear to viewers in the 80's who watched shows like I Dream of Genie. As with every Genie she appears to be there to fulfill any wish / fantasy they have while working on a grander agenda. She is there to help them loosen up, not be afraid of meeting new people & stand up for themselves - basically help them gain confidence.
the tv series reveals that Lisa is a genie that grants wishes that never work. the movie doesn't do a good job of pointing that out.
bingo
The thing that worked least well for me in the entire movie is the stated objective that Lisa does anything the boys want. Technically she does that, but in reality she does a whole heck of a lot of things that they *don't* want or ask for.
On point.I agree.
never heard that. saw it in the 80s
I once referred to Weird Science as Mary Poppins for adults, and I stand by that statement.
Never thought about that, but since you bring it up it's very obvious.
Very slight modification of your quite brilliant observation...Weird Science is Mary Poppins for teenage boys?
@@iKvetch558 - That is more accurate, yeah.
She could've given me a "spoonful of sugar" and I'd have downed whatever medicine she offered.
Not bad, I like it!
Yes, 55 year old woman here. This movie came out the year I graduated high school. You are not wrong in your reaction, Ashleigh. It was a bit uncomfortable to me. But I had close male friends who said they would have been totally down with that situation. So there you go. Also, Bill Paxton was the brother and yes that is Robert Downey, Jr.
The thing about Lisa (beyond the fact that despite her looks she is only two days old) is that she never intends to have sex with these boys no matter what they wish for. She's just leading them on to boost their egos and teach them lessons.
There's really only two scenes that toe a sexual line for her mentorship of them, but note there is a line being drawn by the movie even if it's not as harsh as folks would draw today. She showers in front of them, but all they mostly are looking at is her back. Also, if they're plastered to the shower wall too afraid to take off their pants, odds are good they were too afraid to do or request anything more in that shower than we were shown. This is further emphasized by her having the Mad Max warriors at the party mention it, to motivate the boys to stand up for themselves (as well as letting them know they weren't in true danger).
The most charged thing she does is teach Wyatt to kiss and stick her underwear on him, and the latter could easily have been done using her technology magic after he fell asleep. Even her mention of performing a gymnastics routine for him is treated like she really knew nothing would ever happen. Very convenient that he just fell asleep, leading to the possibility she either knew he would in advance or arranged for him to fall asleep.
She's a boy's fantasy, a mentor, and a technological genie, but she is never anyone's lover. She plays along with their ideas to a degree to build their confidence, before she flips everything on its head to challenge them, help them stand on their own, and find stuff that's real and will make them happy in the long run. That's why she has to be older than them.
Also, imagine how problematic it would be for them to create a teen girl from pictures out of Playboy magazine.
It's interesting how folks are disturbed by the visual age gap these days but nobody thinks as much about the fact that she provides copious amounts of alcohol to them and other minors. It's kinda a fascinating look at which bad or questionable behaviors our society is more accepting of or aware of.
Really glad you watched the movie, and that you got some good laughs from it. Real Genius was my favorite of the highschool super science shenanigans movies, and I hope you get a chance to watch that in future too. It stars Val Kilmer, who also starred in Willow.
This. And yes, Real Genius was a fun movie, featuring sexy geek girl Jordan. How many young men fell in love with her?
@@Caseytify I hadn't gotten over Deborah Foreman yet ;-)
I like Real Genius too. It has a darker feel to it
Real Genius is responsible for my lifelong crush on Michelle Meyrink (particularly in her Jordan Cochran role).
Long but well worth the read.
You explain things well.
I especially was surprised and pleased with your alcohol comment. It was actually pretty cool that you caught on to that.
I mentioned a thought in another comment that Lisa is really only 1 day old. The only way WE say she's 23 is someone randomnly says it and she looks certainly older then they. (Upon retyping this, this realization may be even More problematic).
Also, if Lisa was a teen, why the hell would they trade her in for 2 normal teen girls , who Wouldn't do whatever they said and could do magic? That's crazy talk.
"Who is that? He looks really familiar." (points to a very young Robert Downey Jr) This is why we love watching your reactions.
Interesting she didn't catch his name in the credits at the beginning 🤔
She didn't recognize Bill Paxton from Aliens either. 👽
About the same age he was in Back To School with Rodney Dangerfield.
@@briansmith48 And from Titanic!
@@briansmith48 also The Terminator
I consider Weird Science to be the Mary Poppins of the 1980's. Kelly Lebrock just got summoned rather than fly in on an umbrella.
She watches a movie called Weird Science and she is wondering why things are so weird every other minute?
Bill Paxton as Chet is the worst big brother in the history of cinema. Again, a hyper-real vision of what we all thought our mean older siblings were like.
Honestly, I had a Junior High friend whose big brother made Chet look like Mister Rogers.
It's the first movie that I remember seeing him in.
I don't know man. Bucho in Desperado has him beat.
Paxton was in Aliens too, which is probably why he looked familiar to her. Another annoying character in Aliens, known for the line "Game over, man." He was in Titanic too, but in a less cringy role.
@@erickyoung8331 and Stripes ... and Terminator .... and True Lies
Its pretty sad how people today react to movies from the 80's like everything is crossing the line.I'm so glad I grew up in that time, everything was so much more fun.
Yes! Thank you! People today overreact to everything. They're like hyper sensitive neurotic hall monitors. They need everything to be so sanitized and sterile or it upsets their fragile psyche; and because of that everything produced is predictable and boring.
Exactly, this timeline we live in today is so "Soviet-era".
It's so depressing that they can't differentiate a comedy film from reality
Yes, I agree. I Grew up during the 80's and so grateful for it.
Girls be more concerned with height than age. Wasn't back then, probably more than a decade after the 80's but I remember. So of course young women twice as old they'd ask my cousins how tall over 6' they were but never their age. That side of the family around 12 or 13 sprout up around 6'5" and the younger brother had a real baby face no matter how old he got. Quite the opposite of late bloomers, they very early bloomers.
The whole point is the age difference is SUPPOSED to be icky. Lisa is trying to teach them that their adolescent sex-crazed ideal of the “perfect woman” isn’t what they really want or need, and could actually CREATE problems for them.
This is a ridiculously stupid movie with a ridiculously stupid concept but still one of my favorites from the 80s and still makes me laugh to this day.
I could not have said it better than this.
My very favorite 80s comedy,i pity millenials.
Humor isn't supposed to be taken seriously. Even if it's dumb lol.
I was in high school when this came out and we all LOVED it. It has aged horribly now, but we didn't bat an eye when it came out.
@@jlbarnesthis may be a bit of a stretch but I believe it unfortunately glamorizes pedophilia in a way. I didn't see that when I was a teenager obviously but I have a different perspective now. I literally have to look at the movie from a teenager's point of view and it's still funny.
There was no lines in the 80's I love this movie. As a 80's baby, this movie set the tone! Helped mold the man I am today💪
Fun anecdote: Bill Paxton got the role in Aliens after this role as Chet, his character basically being "Chet, but 5 years older and in the marines".
Great role...miss that dude...woulda been nice too have had him in the Live Die Repeat movie...that was a good role to.
“Game over, man! Game over!!!
Kelly Lebrock uses various British slang terms in this film like “wanker” and “toss off”.
Probably because she was born in the U.S. but raised in the UK.
It's so sad that things have gotten so out of hand in today's world... Weird Science being troubling today shows how far we've fallen as a society. It was a movie for you teen boys. Back then, we weren't so easily offended as people are today. We had fun for the sake of having fun. Watching the reaction on this channel sometimes get's me worried for today's kids. She gets upset about something said... but, at the same time, wants to laugh so badly.
As if anyone on here would be offended she wants to laugh.
Weird Science, not only stands the test of time, it is a blueprint on how NOT to take one's self so seriously.
Have fun... laugh for the sake of laughing... and PLEASE, don't be offended by a movie about trivial things. Boys used to be boys... had fun... and were awkward doing it.
Sad part is being offended by the movie yet ok with how worse thing have gotten in reality. Attack fiction to turn a blind eye? Look out the door at how people act now quite the opposite of what they say. Just can't take them serious.
Of all the John Hughes teenage films in the 80s, "Some Kind of Wonderful" (1987) is my favourite and it ages better than the rest.
Yup. I'd love to see her reaction to that one. All of the humor, heart, and teenage angst without the ick factor.
Yes! I also adore Some Kind of Wonderful and it has actually aged incredibly well!
totally agree. she needs to watch it!
Yeah, I had a huge crush on Mary Stuart Masterson. Even dated a girl who looked a lot like her in that movie.
SKOW was a great illustration of how we often want a fantasy when reality is right in front of us...and in the case of Mary Stuart Masterson, reality is better! A much better film than Weird Science imho.
This was every teenage boys fantasy back in the 80s. 😂
It was NO big deal in the 80s. We're just snowflakes now. And yes, this was a dream for every boy that age and younger. The 80s were awesome!
I can appreciate that they didn't make her a brainless doll- they wanted a woman who was brilliant, "not boring".
Somehow you think this was just in the 80's? lol. that cute.
I was 16 and had a girlfriend in college but hey they made her not the other way around, so they wanted a women with experience.
Didn't even necessarily need to be a teenager yet.
Hall's delivery of the line, "He don't have his license, Lisa." was always one of my favorite parts in Weird Science. We used to say that line all the time back then. 😭
My wife still asks "Did you spit in this?" whenever I hand her something to eat or drink....
I was a teen in the 80s. Many 80s teen comedy films, especially this one, just assumed a hyper-reality. Nothing was taken literally. The humor has NOT aged well, but the context back then was more surreal.
It can all be summed up with one short statement; "Hey, it was the 80s."
Right
Pure escapism to avoid the state of the world.
Come to think of it, we're either lagging behind or people are too afraid of making wholly unrealistic, playful stories anymore for fear of offending someone.
@@IggyStardust1967 That's exactly what I tell my son when he asks, "You could do that back then?"
@@AlexanderShackles Very much afraid of offending people, I agree.
"Getting stuck in television isn't the worst thing to happen."
Please watch Stay Tuned with John Ritter. Such an underrated film from the early 90's.
Which expands on one of the skits in "Amazon Women on the Moon".
Or, better yet, "Pleasantville."
I remember something that we had recorded on VHS that I watched a bunch when I was young that was called... Remote Control Man? Looking it up... Okay, so it was an episode of the show Amazing Stories (1985), apparently. But it's a similar theme as what I'm guessing that Stay Tuned did (haven't heard of it) and a similar theme as what Pleasantville later did as well. (Not the same as them. Just in the same ball park.) In Remote Control Man, a guy who's not happy with his life and family acquires a magic TV remote that he uses to make characters from the shows come to life in his house.
Bonus: it has Eugene Levy
What about The Truman Show? She's not seen that one yet.
Another way to think of this, Lisa's actual age is 0. She did not exist until they created her, even though she has a fully mature body, and knowledge a new born could not have, unless born from a magical computer.
Correction; she was to look like a 23 year old woman. She was actually only a couple of days old, and not a real human considering all the science and powers stuff. This one is best thought of as a complete fictional fantasy jaunt and not allow yourself to get wrapped up in trying to use normal ethics to judge the impossible.
80s sensibility was alot different than now. And Lisa being their "ideal perfect woman" included her maturity.
Exactly, because if the "ideal" had been a 16-year old, say, who was able to teach them the things Lisa taught them, that wouldn't have been just as icky (or maybe even more so)?
@@i.marchand4655 Yup.
@@i.marchand4655 Also the age of consent thing, varies state by state. I live in a state where the age of consent is 16, in the next state over it's 18.
I was 18 when this movie came out, and it was still creepy AF, even back then.
@@philliplozano7587 I was a year younger, and being a huge Oingo Boingo fan, I really wanted to like it, but it made me feel really uneasy.
"Chips dips chains whips" gotta remember to put that on my next birthday invite LMAO
Fun fact, the leader of the biker gang is “Wez” from Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior. The exact same character played by the same actor, Vernon Wells.
And Comando......
"Let off some steam Bennett"
I knew him mostly as Ransik from _'Power Rangers: Time Force'_ (and briefly in a _'Power Rangers: Wild Force'_ team-up episode)!
The soundtrack in the 80's movies are everything. The movies would suffer greatly without them.
Ashleigh, if you’re going to watch older movies, you kind of have to take off your PC hat and enjoy the show. Our filters were pretty minimal back then. Basically what John Hughes does is say what everybody is thinking, but is afraid to say it. Believe it or not the boys today are still thinking the same thing.
I saw this movie in reruns as a boy, and I always thought it was dumb.
This. Get used to the zero filter because it doesn't really start coming in until much later. Enjoy the lack of filter on these movies!
to be fair i hated the breakfast club 🤣bunch of crybabies in detention
I think after reading some of the comments, this review is not for me. I get tired of the cringing and PC offense people take to these older movies.
I still can't believe that me and my cousin (both of us 12 years old) watched this by ourselves in the theaters. The 80s were really different.
Right? I saw Top Secret in the theater when I was 10. Lol
@@petetrippe8457 Yeah.. I saw all kinds of scary films when I was 10. Plenty of tiddies and violence.
Bless 80's pg
Hell, I got to see I think a movie called Six Pack while my mom went to the theater next to us to watch The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas!
7 of us saw Halloween for my 10th bday. My mom dropped us off while she shopped.🤷♂️😂
That scene after "hi" with all the people in the yard, those were like the many house parties I went to in the 80s. Tons of people having fun.
Exactly. In fact, when I went out of town with my parents, my older brother and sister threw a party, and handed out flyers at school to everyone, complete with a map and directions!
Late 80's and early 90's for me. House parties were the BEST!! Kids don't even do "Keggers" anymore. So sad.
Massive house party with a garage band in the backyard. The shit we got away with back then...
Aaah the dayz...
Good ol Keggers!
After watching this film for more times than I can count over 30+ years, I finally had an epiphany and realized that this film is the live-action version of the Dr. Suess classic, The Cat in the Hat.
John Hughes just knew the voices of the generation, he captured the goings on really well of teens.
I have another question to pose here, concerning the "Ick!" factor:
If Lisa is iky because she SEEMS to be 23 when the boys are 15... why aren't all the vampires who are up in their 100s-plus "Icky" for going after teen-age girls?
Is it just because they look younger than they really are?
Or is there some other reason why Stefan, Damon, Edward, etc are exempt?
I DON'T think they should be exempt, but I am in the minority. Until the newer incarnations of Dr Who there were multiple times when human women crushed on the Doctor but the Doctor never should interest in them "in that way" and I always thought that made sense. Not only is he an alien but being hundreds of years old he would have difficulty interacting with a 20 something year old human in a romantic ,equal footing, way. It WOULD be kind of pedophilic. I was a bit disappointed when they made it so the Doctor could somehow be attracted to Rose Tyler. But what can you do?
@@jacquelinecallejas1390 uhhh, who *isn't* attracted to Rose?
@@mattmanyam - * raises hand * I'm not.
But then I'm an old fart that still remembers ( and loves ) Sarah Jane.
Broke my heart when Liz Sladen died, the same as it did when Diana Rigg ( Emma Peel ) passed on.
If you want to go by the age they appear, those boys in Weird Science clearly didn't loook like 15 yos either.
@@whatsawhizzerwebnovels4927 - They were actually 15 and 16 years old at the time, one being born in 1968, the other in 1969.
Kelly LeBrock was 25.
( 1985 was the movie's release date. It was shot the year before. )
Nothing from the 1980's should be viewed through the PC lenses of the 2000's. Back then we didn't get offended by much of anything and could understand the difference between a joke and real life. Mel Brooks, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, George Carlin... the funniest comedians of all time couldn't survive in today's political climate.
OK...I feel like Ashleigh really has totally forgotten about Uncle Buck. She did not talk about it in her reaction/review of Sixteen Candles, and she completely ignores it in this one too...unless she gets around to it at the end. It just makes me sad that she keeps forgetting about a John Hughes movie she totally loved when she saw it. ✌💯
Also, how Ashleigh is it for Ashleigh to get excited that Bill Paxton is in this, and then not recognize Bill Paxton when he comes on screen??? 🤣🤣🤣
Ashleigh screens two movies a week, for months, when others of her age group simply read headlines. It is a LOT of content to consume, with several decades of actors to remember. I am always amazed at the level of recall she is able to demonstrate.
@@kingoglow2186 Good point...still...it is sad that keeps forgetting about Uncle Buck.
Humans and I think really all animals are predisposed to remember bad stuff over good stuff. It makes sense as the bad stuff could kill you and remembering to avoid the bad stuff means you survive long enough to have descendants.
She mentioned it a lot in the Splash reaction. 🤷♀️
I am not surprised at all. She is quite naive and pretty oblivious most times. Hell, she HAD to ask why this kid has bras and a barbie doll in his room....it was CLEARLY mentioned he has a sister, which is where he got those items. This kind of thing happens far too often with Ashliegh, despite being entertaining it's quite annoying.
The age gap was never an issue for me because Lisa was never with them really. Her purpose was to give them confidence to be with girls their own age.
Also, high school was hyper sexual into the 90s.
Plus this was a teenage boy's fantasy dream movie.
High school has been hyper-sexual since they invented high school.
The film was set in 1985.
@@CorsetGrace
lol *EXACTLY*
It always was. Director showed the truth.
The whole bar scene is hilarious, especially when he says "Man, what'chu talkin' bout a telephone, we KNOW there's a telephone!"🤣😂🤣
'Weird Science' is 'Mary Poppins' for teenage boys, and has basically the same plot. Just like Mary Poppins, Lisa comes out of thin-air to help. She uses magic to make amazing/impossible things happen. She takes Gary and Wyatt on incredible adventures, and in the end she fixes their problems and solves their issues by teaching them how to find the courage to overcome their struggles and boost their self-esteem themselves instead of using her magic directly to just make them and their lives better. Then, once everything is fixed and back to normal and the boys are better people, she disappears from their lives on a breeze.
He's about coming of age with those movies, which focuses on the struggles teens worry about as they move into adulthood. This explains his approach to the themes and his movies, especially in The Breakfast Club.
I think the reason she had to be older is a lot of the movie surrounded the idea of growing up and maturing. She's that gateway that represents the transition from teen to becoming an adult. This wouldn't have worked if they had created a girl that was their same age.
She's also a fantasy, a perfectly acceptable fantasy come to life.
Well said
26:28 @Ashley Burton - “Why couldn’t John Hughes have made the girl the same age as the boys?”
As an old-fart who watched this film when it was first released (I was 15), I gotta tell you; I LOVED IT! I guess our attitudes & standards were pretty problematic by today’s standards, but this film knew who its target audience was. 😏
Kelly Le Brock was THE fantasy of most 15-30something year old dudes back in the 80s. And as problematic as it might be, a huge part of the film’s appeal was the overt sexualization of Kelly Le Brock. Yes, the age-gap is weird, but just imagine how weird it would have been if the film was sexualizing a 15 year old girl (yikes!)😬
EVERY DAMN NIGHT!!!? 30 plus years later, that scene still makes me laugh out loud.
SHE DID WHAT!
In the family jewels?!
"On the telephone?!"
Lisa wasn't 23. She was less than a day old when they said she was 23. She wasn't human. Magic computer genie. Different rules apply.
Yep; I’d argue she was ageless. Between her age being “grown up” and her British accent, she had the ability to come off as wise and teach them life lessons that would not have worked if she was some random hot teenager. The fact that she was attractive wasn’t really the point, she was teaching them to find confidence in themselves.
“Lisa, we can’t keep him like this, it’ll ruin Christmas.”😂😂
The genius of John Hughes writing in his teen comedies was not to shy away from the truth of the hormone driven thoughts of male adolescents. He puts a voice to all the weird, dirty, perverted thoughts that run through our minds at that age. There's a reality to it that many of us might not want to admit to...at least publicly. 🤣 Weird Science is the culmination of all that, warts and all.
Yes; he's not displaying what _he's_ thinking about, but what those little horn dogs are thinking about. If you can call that thinking. ;)
honestly, the opening sequence with the guys standing there watching the girl's gym class, talking about wanting to shower with the girls, I felt like it was a mirror into my young teenage soul. I don't think any of my friends ever really stood around and articulated it to that extent, but we certainly thought stuff like that, and talked about things like that to an extent. Hormones were going crazy and we were curious as all hell about sex and all of that, and then you work out in gym and sometimes the girl's gym class is doing stuff nearby and you got to check some of the girls you liked out, etc. Most Hollywood films never really captured the essence of realism to it that I found in moments of John Hughes films.
What do you mean by "at that age"... whats age gotta do about it lol.
@@NZBigfoot Age has everything to do with it. The hormones raging through a teenage boy are off the scale compared to a 50 or 60 year old man.
I gotta disagree with you on making Lisa a teenager would've been less disturbing. Also I'd say that despite her playful flirting, Lisa was more into mentoring the boys rather than indulging their sexual fantasies.
When I hear you comment on the hair in the 80s….GIRL. My hair was so big back then I had to apply for a building permit. My friends and I carried giant cans of Aquanet in our purses and fluffed our hair up during the day. You’d open the bathroom door and it smelled like a beauty shop, just clouds and clouds of hairspray wafting out into the hallway. No one smoked in the bathroom, it would have blown the place up.
This is an 80’s take on the Cinderella story. The little bit you saw is actually all that happened between her and them sexually. She wasn’t there to be their girlfriend she was there to make them cool.
Closer to Aladdin I think.
Most people didn't understand how computers worked back in the 80s. Some people thought computers were basically magic.
Fun Fact: I once nearly started WWIII on my Commodore 64.
@@disconnexionsdotcom How about a nice game of chess?
so basically exactly the same as today
A wizard lives in every [desktop] tower. They send messages via switch witches to avoid ethernet bridge trolls.
I would say _most_ folks still think computers are basically magic, including Hollywood screenwriters. If I had a dollar for every time a movie or tv showed someone frantically typing on a keyboard for 30 seconds, then exclaiming "I'm in!!" I'd be rich.
Never thought of the Djinn theory before, but it makes sense.
“If you’ve got an upset tummy and you gotta fart, you’re literally at a party, just crop-dust everybody. There’s so many people they’re not gonna know it was you, the music’s so loud they’re not gonna hear it - pffttht.” 🤦♀️🤣
12:10 That is a VERY young Robert Downey, Jr.! Yeah, that's kid-sized Iron Man right there! Incidentally, you can see more of him and hear more Oingo Boingo (who did the theme song) in Back To School, a comedy classic you MUST check out!
"If the roles were reversed, this would be disgusting!" ...should we re review Dirty Dancing? A 17yr old minor with the name of Baby with a full grown 24yr old man... who she danced with then did the horizontal polka with? It's strictly a PoV of the times. No one was saying nothing with mobs of 40 yr olds stalking, chasing, and forming lines with signs saying, "We love you Taylor!" or "Team Jacob" when in real life Taylor Lautner was 17 doing "Twilight."
The scarier thing I feel is the latter. It was like when guys couldn't wait for the Olsen twins to be of age... like... wtf guys. Just like Dirty Dancing was made for the romantic hopeful girls, this was made for the boys who thought older women would be uh, exciting. It's about the audience.
When is it stated that Johnny Castle is 24? He looks older & Patrick Swayze was 34 when he played him.
Technically these guys are trying to score with a 2 day old girl. How's that for you?
10:40 "Those are her underwear! That's Lisa's underwear!"
That's also Lisa's tank top. 🤦😆
"Why couldn't John Huges made her their age." Because in the 80s, people were more happy and knew the difference between a fantasy and reality when it came to movies. If the 20s are so "Progressed" and right, then why are more people admitting they are unhappier than ever before? (Even before the pandemic)
The blond hair with the side ponytail was a fashion statement that lasted longer than the character who inspired it, Chrissy Snow on Three's Company. She had that style because a hunk of her hair came out and needed to be covered up. There wasn't a hair craze like that until the Rachel.
ah, I see you're man of culture as well
@@Nueztoy There's a video on YT that tells the story of her assistant bleaching her hair and it started to fall out and the only way to cover it was with a big clumpy ponytail on the side of her head, it was supposed to be a one time thing but it became popular so they had her style it that way in every episode.
Les Nessman on WKRP had a thing too, he wore a bandaid in every episode because he cut his finger before filming the pilot so he added it to his character to imply he's clumsy and gets paper cuts a lot.
@@Nueztoy also, "man of culture"...chuckleSNORTchuckle.
I'd like to add, Bill Paxton as Chet, was definitely playing against character. By all accounts he was the nicest person you could ever be lucky enough to meet, even in an industry that turns people into monsters. Watching Sigourney Weaver, in interviews; speak about her friend Bill, made me like the both of them even more. For next Hallowbeans, I would love for you to react to the film "Near Dark", which starred Bill Paxton. It's a very gritty modern western with vampires and was directed by Kathryn Bigelow (ex wife of James Cameron and director of "The Foot Locker" and "Zero Dark Thirty" .
Near dark is so underrated!
This was always my least favourite Hughes movie even back in the 80s. But John wasn't just focused on the sex lives of high school kids, he was capturing a part of the 80s in the kind of alienation and clique-ishness of the time. This is before it was ok...even cool, to be a nerd. You have to consider the time. Home computers were new and the internet consisted mainly of bulletin boards. Google didn't even launch until 1998. We were latchkey kids, mainly raising ourselves and we saw something of ourselves in the characters Hughes created. While his movies might not always hold the test of time, they do hold a piece of our hearts.
I'll stop getting sentimental now. :)
From another 80’s latchkey kid, this was wonderfully said.
Very true. I remember coming home after school when no one else was home. I would do whatever I wanted until they came home from work. Then it was homework and dinner.
It was just me, my mom and my sister. As a teen, I quickly became the man of the house, always looking after my sis to school, from school, etc. Latchkey kids had a lot of responsibility placed on us at a young age.
Same here as others have expressed.. Well said!
I'm not sure millenials know the term "latchkey kid".
I really think she's overthinking this one. it was a fun, entertaining movie with a unique concept. If the focus was on the age gap and if explored in the movie as a salient point, then yes, dwell on it, but it was pretty innocent
I agree she’s overthinking it but her generation has been successfully programmed to freak out about the age gap depicted in this movie.
She overthinks every John Hughes film and unfortunately views 40 year old movies through the prism of today’s millennial mind prison.
@@robertneblett4477 This! Exactly this! No matter how much we loved it and want others to love them, making them continuously watch them isn't going to make her love them. Probably push her away from them even more.
@@TheHockeywitch what’s even funnier ( sadly) is that she finds nothing wrong with calling women and even little girls “ dumb bitches” which she does all the time. In the millennial world that’s ok
@@robertneblett4477rap influence.
"He's only 15? And how old is she supposed to be?"
Well you can't blame her for not knowing it's wrong... She was only born yesterday! XD
Fun fact, this movie spawned a TV series in the mid 90's on USA network starting Vanessa Angel. It did moderately well considering everyone thought it would be a bomb, and lasted for 5 seasons before being canceled. I think Lee Tergesen stole the show however, as Chet (and it's hard to top Bill Paxton from the movie.) Of Wayne's World headbanger fame, he later went on to star in HBO's "Oz" as Tobias Beecher.
The tv show was pretty good.
I have fond memories of that show. I remember watching it thinking it would bomb as well but it was pretty hilarious at times and won me over. The problem/gadget of the week TV format worked in its favor.
I was wondering if anyone was gonna talk about the show lol I loved it
5 seasons ?!
Has she done "Real Genius" yet? If not, she really needs to watch it as a follow-up to this.
I second that…one of my favorite movies…can’t look at popcorn the same way after watching Real Genius….
Ashleigh really needs to do the Val Killer comedy double feature "Real Genius" & "Top Secret!"
The mid 80s were a time of sci-fi comedies, this movie, THE REAL GENIUS, and MY SCIENCE PROJECT .
@@panowa8319 not too long ago we rewatched My Science Project…what a surreal school….lol
This entire movie is the "It appeals to the male fantasy" meme dialed up to 11,000. It's amazing.
Yes of course that was why it was a comedy and ridiculous. it showed teenage boys that what they think they want isn't what they really want. Also, I could totally see a 80s movie where two teenage girls make an older (23 year old!!) man to be their ideal.
If you’re watching 80’s hackers, the next film should be “War Games” with pre Ferris Bueler, Matthew Broderick.
Hackers, aka HACK THE PLANET!
@@kingoglow2186 haha very Different hackers.
I personally think Wargames is a very important movie that most people should watch at least once.
It must have been quite scary watching that at the height of the cold war in the 80s, even as an adult.
I just have great memories of watching that with my parents at the time (I would have been about 6 or 7), but I didn't fully understand the fear, of course.
And now look - Wargames has become very relevant again in today's climate, sadly.
Also, the movie is just awesome. A true classic.
Oh, don't bother with the 2008 sequel to Wargames though (Wargames: The Dead Code), it was terrible. lol
War Games is definitely a must-see movie.
Lisa's not 23. She was literally born _yesterday_ . If anything, Gary and Wyatt are the cradle-robbers in this scenario.
But she looks like a 23 yr old and has all the experience of one, so it's there really a difference?
I like watching the overly dramatic reactions of millennials to the times I grew up in. We did what we wanted and didn't get offended by every little thing. I miss those days.
We were also exposed to too much sex way too young, imo. The 80s began the hypersexualization of everything...
@@lynnjohanssen6552 Compared to now, where any kid can browse hardcore porn on his cellphone that mommy and daddy felt compelled to get him for his 10th (or younger even) birthday, I'd say the 80's were pretty damn tame. :)
@@brianjones8432 Exactly! The hyprocrisy today is mind-boggling!... Social networks these days are creating mental health issues much worse than anything the 80's ever put out!
@@fdtori THANK YOU for saying that.
@@brianjones8432exactly. Back then, it was hard work to actually see porn. I remember me and my friends making a plan to get a fake ID and rent the Tracy Lords X rated movie from the mall video store. It was like the Oceans 11 heist.
As for the hypersexualization in 80's teen movies, that wasn't just John Hughes. If anything, John toned it down compared to other movies of the era, especially ones like Fast Times at Ridgemont High (which is a great movie too and definitely worth seeing, but also carries a warranted R rating...). In comparison, Weird Science is pretty tame. The worst that happens is the scene where Lisa teaches Wyatt how to kiss.
Porky's
@@shawnski001 and lemmon popsicle.
I immediately thought of Porky's. Hit the replies and see that someone else mentioned it too. Yep, the 80s had lots of sex filled teen movies. It was great!
@@shawnski001 OMG! Imagine Ashleigh reviewing Porky's. Most of the review would be her just screaming "I saw a titty!" or "That's a butt!". I'm sure her head would just explode at all of the penises.
That's funny, just about everyone here immediately thought of Porky's. I didn't just get beaten to the punch, I got beaten multiple times.
i LOVE the bar scene. Is it a bit feeding into stereotypes of the times, yes. As a black woman did we give a damn in the 80's, hell no. We just like to see representation where we weren't the villains.
Let’s face it, in this scene they are the coolest most accepting demographic in the movie
There's similar scenes in Animal House, Adventures in Babysitting, even in Charlies Angels 2000 when they go to Soul Train, and it's all pretty much the same joke: "OMG scary black people! Oh wait, they're not scary once the white people stop clutching their pearls and relax, they're actually really welcoming and inclusive, and now the white people have become slightly cooler simply having been exposed to them" But they did sometimes lean into some cringey stereotypes to make the joke work.
Yes but it's a modern white thing to be offended on behalf of black people even though the actors themselves are black and were perfectly capable of accepting or turning down the roles in this movie. If a white person doesn't act sufficiently offended on behalf of black people, they (white people) are scared to death of being cancelled.
@@chrisleebowers I agree with almost everything you said except that in Animal House the guys abandon their dates because they are afraid to say no to the Black men asking to dance with them and the women are too scared to say no and the Black people come off looking predatory. Yes the White people don't look great but it isn't made clear that they shouldn't have been afraid of the Black people. I find that scene really uncomfortable. Your right that sometimes in trying to do something positive like the Soul Train scene in Charlies' Angels they sometimes give a weird message, Like Soul Train isn't White friendly until Cameran Diaz makes it safe for White people.
“I feel like this is a little stereotypical” I hit pause, typed this out and I’m dipping. I can’t with these people
Who else when they read the title WEIRD SCIENCE immediately went "oooh"?
They made the girl from a playboy magazine so she couldn't have been underage.
Not sure if this was mentioned, the party when the bikers come in, the one says, "i'd hate to lose my teaching job".. the point of that line is that actor played the teacher/principal in the Motley Crue - Smoking in the Boys Room video..
her goal was never to be with them but to build them up so they could get girlfriends, bill paxton was hudson in aliens and the car salesmen in true lies, the guy that yells at the end is from a movie called MAD MAX so the references are pretty funny. it's a funny movie if you view Lisa as a fairy godmother just there to help them out...in skimpy clothes lol
Wow, Hughes mashed up a bunch of tropes/characters: Cinderella, a genie, Mary Poppins. All the different ideas of who/what Lisa is totally fit.
@@charlesedwards2856 Yep ALL the things
Mad Max with Mel Gibson not the 2000s one
@@gabriellevazquez6618 More accurately still, he was in Mad Max 2 (1981), which arguably is one of those sequels that's better than the original.
(Also in Commando (1985) and Inner Space (1987). ;-) )
"There are three main types of movie nerds. One is an academic stereotype who doesn't talk much. The second is a hilarious weirdo who would be totally popular if he wasn't in a movie script. In Weird Science, Anthony Michael Hall perfected the third: the nerd whose sexual frustration has driven him insane.
"Hall performs in Weird Science like his captured family will be killed if he's not funny. He packs more manic desperation into his lines than a dry-humping seventh grader. He delivers lines in ways that would make Christopher Walken say, "What A strange WAY to deLIVer your LINES." --Seanbaby
omg Seanbaby! You're bringing me back, friend.
A couple friends of mine had an interaction with him at a hotel bar during a comic-con a few years back. Apparently his ego from being a big actor in the 80’s and thinking he was still relevant made him infinitely unlikeable and he was acting like a douche.
Nothing really to do with your comment, but the “driven him insane” part stuck out because it felt like he was insane in that interaction they had/witnessed, they said.
@@charlesedwards2856 that is odd. My friends and I had the pleasure to meet him a comic con and it was the opposite. Although he had to "sush"(fingered raised)us for a second to hear what his agent???? was saying he turned and apologized and was very down to earth and chatted with for about 5 or so minutes. Saw him later on that day and he was friendly then as well. 🤷♂️
I was 18 and a senior in high school when most of these movies came out.
Honestly where I was, we didn't really think about the director or his message when we saw them.
They were just simply "the brat pack movies"
We related to the students and actors and we wanted to see what they did.
Not much more than that.
Pretty in pink
16 candles
The breakfast club
St elms fire
Wierd science
Better off dead
The outsiders
About last night
Wisdom
We just went in and had a good time.
If you want a throwback movie watch not another teen movie lol
Ashleigh, it was NOT Willow that came in after Weird Science, it was Spinal Tap. Willow was in 4th place, well behind Spinal Tap.
I don't mind if you watch Willow, but PLEASE don't skip over Spinal Tap! I've been waiting for you to watch that movie for the longest time! 😭
If Ashleigh watches Spinal Tap, she needs to turn the sound up to 11. 😉
Spinal Tap is an absolute must!
This one goes to 11
Rock and Roll! Where's the stage door?
I was trying to figure out what happened to Spinal Tap! When I voted it was in 2nd.
Lisa was so much more like a supernatural entity than an actual human woman...like she was some sort of love goddess or something that chose to help them out...its a very anime life story line. The 80's&90's were very hypersexualized, full send.
Always thought this. Now I think she might be a Q.
She was a genie. there was a tv series based off the movie. Lisa is revealed to be a genie. but she's also still a computer program that is running off of wyatt's computer. if the computer is shut off, she ceases to exist. but she comes back once it's turned back on. also the characters ages are more closer to one another. it ran 5 seasons. so gary and wyatt start off as late teens and end up about 21 at the end. same as as Lisa is supposed to be in the series. she doesn't age.
Meatballs 3 has this same idea
Seeing RDJ at this age makes me want to go watch some of his best movies from the late 80’s and early 90’s!
-Chances Are
-Only You
-Heart and Souls
He had so many classics!
He’s great in ‘Back to School’ too.
@@Kaddywompous RDJ is pretty spazzy in 'Back to School', but to really see his range back then, 'Less Than Zero' is the movie to watch. It's a shame he didn't learn from his character about the dangers of drugs though.
Heart and Souls is one of my comfort films.
Well, technically Lisa is only a few days old through the total movie. I know she's supposed to look in her 20's, but ....
This was one of my fav movies when I was younger. I'd highly suggest Real Genius as well.
Also, I'm always sad when we have no Beans in the videos.
I would like to second real genius. And another movie that I can't remember the title too lol
@@marcbennett9232 I third Real Genius. _"And another movie that I can't remember the title too lol"_ - what's the plot?
“Just crop dust everybody!” I would def bring Ashleigh to a party 😂
Always loved this movie. "Chips, dip, chains and whips" became a saying with my friends from this movie. It was funny that the girls actually liked Lisa as much as the guys did. (Usually for different reasons). Also the run time was standard in the 80s. These movies were made for theaters not streaming or video and a 90min runtime let theaters get the most shows in in a day. If you look almost every movie from that time period is around 90min give or take a few min.
You should check out "Some Kind Of Wonderful". It's directed by Howard Deutch and produced by John Hughes. It's my favorite Lea Thompson film.
I think she’d really enjoy that film.
And Pretty In Pink.
"Go ahead punk, make my day" was a famous Clint Eastwood quote from his Dirty Harry movies.
I will say, I'm glad I was an 80's kid. It makes me really enjoy this movie for what it is. Just another John Hughes classic!
I feel like the point about Lisa's age has been mentioned by others... and want to add that I think it would be MORE cringey if they had made a teenage girl for their own sexual fantasies, no? I think that would have icked me out WAY more... both back in the 80s when I saw this for the first time and also now.
Yeah, it works better with Lisa as an older, wiser woman who feels protective of the two guys.
Interesting thing, I remember an interview with Kell Lebrock about this movie. She said, she felt like a child molester during the shower scene.
yeah I think its because if we see them the same age our brains would just be hard wired to instantly go into a "non consensual" storm of no-no-no's where as modern society has us programed to see the older woman as harmless to these two obviously very socially and female awkward boys. I still think the idea that she's harmless to them is wrong though because there is no part of this that doesn't instantly make me wanna reach for a 911 hotline when I think of a role reversal of this movie. I've tried and failed several times!
Well if ya think about it she was just created or born so a few seconds old in comparison to the boys. Created as 23 or looking 23 are two different things. One is jailbait the other isn't. Same with vampires being a few thousand years old and still in high school and all sparkly. lol Girls love an older man it seems. Boys want someone who looks like a woman.
Classicest line ever. "Tell me something, what's a beautiful woman like you doing with a couple of young malacas like this?" "Its purely sexual." "No shit?" 😂
9:21 thats Bill Paxton, and speaking of him: Twister, if you havent seen it.
12:06 thats Robert Downey Jr.
You need to see the movie the Graduate to fully understand the older women and the younger men trope. This fantasy developed after that movie came out and since then it was sort of a trope find in movies for a couple decades to come. Later on it got a resurgence as the term cougar was invented to describe older women seeking younger inexperienced men.
That doesn't work here. This film condoned statutory rape for all intents and purposes. Weird Science is oddly similar to Licorice Pizza.
Gary Wallace: She's into malakas, Dino!
- Dino: "She's into malakas!" Do you believe that?
Young people go for older people because they want to think they are as experienced and capable as those older people.
Plus older people are more fully developed.
And yes, for some reason young guys going after an older women was/is just more acceptable than younger girls going after an older guy.
But there was this one episode of A Different World where the college girls were fawning over a youngish hot professor.
The fantasy paths are just different.
Yes, she's their fantasy and in the context of the film, not of any real age.