Yes, the old Olympic archery format was 90 meters, 70 meters using a 120 centimeter target and 50 meters, 30 meters using a 80 centimeter target. If you were fortunate enough to be selected for the U.S. Olympic archery program you would be participating in an intensive program both physical and mental. The archer may be shooting 300 to 400 arrows a day, 6 days a week. By the way South Korea dominates in Olympic archery. It is their national sport. The South Korean woman broke the world record at the 2024 Olympics shooting 694 points out of a possible 720 points at 70 meters, out scoring ALL the men.
I refuse to watch after the full wokeness on display are they shooting instinctively as he is here or full scoped weighted ETC curios to know thanks in advance
No wonder triggers and compound bows were developed, no person would last using long ,recurve, horse, or Japanese( don't know what it's called)bow. With traditional finger grips.
@@josephschultz I tried to watch it years ago. They don't shoot bows in the olympics, they just pull the trigger on a mechanical monstrosity that takes ninety percent of the skill/talent/athletics out of it. I've heard them described as "nuclear fusion laser guided missile launchers". I sincerely doubt that any of them could even draw a real bow.
So, how about the reverse question: can an Olympic archer keep up with a bow hunter? Walk two miles to three miles through brush and rough terrain, freeze your legs off for several hours, stalk a wild animal to within 20 yards, and make a clean kill with one shot?
@@mwarner1968just because they are top in their particular skill doesn’t mean they are good at everything. Try getting a top darts player to run a marathon!
@@jamesmaybury7452 walking is hardly a skill ----- the Olympian wouldnt have to walk that far if he dropping arrows on a target from 70yards away. Hunter got to get 20 yards away
In the’96 Olympics, the S.Korean women had a sudden death shoot for the gold against the Japanese. The 70m target had a button camera in the very center. I was watching the live feed in the broadcast center as the event happened. The S.Korean archer released the arrow that you could see rise and and then approaching the target, then began dropping, and hit the camera breaking it! NBC never broadcast it, and only passingly mentioned the 2hour long shoot off. I’ve never watched or kept up with the olympics since. I own a bow used in the ‘68 Olympics, took first place in the BSA jr. Olympics in h.s….
The biggest problem i the weight of the arows. 700gr on 70 meters is crazy. From my experience I know. That was one time I took my hunting set up (arows 600 gr) to the 3D competition. There was plenty of targets att 25 to 35 yards and my poit on distance is 20. I had to aim over the targets the whole time and that wasnt good. Next time I took my 40 # bow and 350 gr. Arrows and I won first place. Only becouse of my poit on was now 30 yards. What I want to say is that the pro olympic shooters have very light arrows and extreme flat trajectory which makes it all different. They are still good, no doubt on that. (sorry for the english) Greetings from Sweden
I used to coach target archery- the key is "repeatability of your action" with the equipment you use. You know the distance, you can measure the wind and you get sighter arrows to adjust your sights at the start. That's when the mental game comes in to precicely repeat your the six dozen arrows you are going to send to the target, where you have to maintain your concentration.
Set up a fancy recurve a few years ago to do the same. We had a 100yr range at work, best lunch breaks ever. I dont know if your into the indoor scene, but the Lancaster Classic is always a blast. Barebow has gotten huge for them in the last few years.
Impressive really, I have switched to a recurve this year, the release is kicking my butt 😂. Worst of all the release is probably the most important part. Well at least I'm very confident at 12-18 yds, but still get some fishtailing 😢 every so often. Fun video, I wouldn't even try with my "plucky" release.
I've been meaning to learn arrow lobbing. Many pins, a bubble, light well made arrows I bet I could hit from 90m without much problem. Could do it south paw too. Could probably do 140. Without sights is probably a totally different story though out that far.
It's not for everyone shooting a target and taking the life of an animal are different, at least for me. My first deer made me realize the fragility of life and to respect the hunt, no amount of target shooting can prepare you for those internal thoughts.
And that proves what exactly? How much time did they have with that particular bow and arrow type? How much experience did they have in any kind of hunting? Are you saying that given a bit of time, he/she couldn't adapt and be exceptionally accurate? Every person has to get used to the particular equipment they're using, be it a bow, a tennis racquet or a racing car. And do you think all Olympic archers the same?
@@another3997 it proves exactly what the fuck I said. Targets and animals are not the same. I'll never be an Olympic shooter. I'll never be a 3D shooter that could compete. But I've been deadly as hell in 43 years of bowhunting. So that's my point.
@@Hawken707 the other thing people don't think about is the shaft diameter of competition vs hunting arrows. I run 4mm shafts for better penitration hunting. If I remember the competition arrows are around 9 or 10mm. Like you said diffrent skill set for diffrent situations.
Don't forget, my friend, that Olympic archers are using sights and stabilizer bars that keep the bow steady. I've been practicing with a longbow, and I'm not very good, but when I used my cousin's compound bow; I was hitting bullseyes left and right.
Maybe you shouldn't jump to rash conclusions. You weren't consistently hitting bullseyes from 230 feet away. The sights are there so they can actually see where their shots are landing and make tiny adjustments... fractions of an inch can separate 1st and last places. Unlike you, to be selected, they have to be able to repeatedly hit it many dozens of times in a row, day in, day out. The Stabilisation is just a tool that helps them to keep the incredible consistency over long periods and many shots. Just like carpenters and engineers use tools to keep things consistent.
Good on you for having a go. No chance of understanding the challenges of each others game unless you give it a go. Maybe you should try with an olympic bow with all the sights, stabiliser and other gadgets surely its got to be easy then 😂
Olympic archers dont shoot from 90m anymore. 70 m is the distance now. They shoot their whole life from youth classes from this one known distance. With a sight. And a low anchor, that enables them to look through riser and not point over the target. Every Olympic archer that tried trad shooting said that it is much harder.
Rubbish. No, they don't all train from a young age, at just one distance and with sights etc. That may happen in certain countries, but most are simply people who showed talent in general archery, and chose to train in the Olympic style, whatever age they were. They gain recognition through organised competitions, and a committee will choose the best ones they can find for each discipline. Many countries don't have state sponsored training schemes for most sports. There are generally no age restrictions on Olympic athletes... one of the Turkish duo that took silver in 10m target pistol was 51 years old.
The real question is could they hang with the hunters they shoot in a perfect environment. We shoot elevated with branches in our sight. did your target move and now it’s a quarter away shot? Is it snowing? Making distance adjustments. Low light. I can keep going. It is clear who is better. I don’t look down on them. It’s just completely different your hunting an animal. Love to a them be accurate when buck fever hits them.
People love to think they're skills are better and harder to master than everyone else's. 🤣 But their targets are small, and very far away. 70M is 229.66 feet. They use tools to help with consistency, just like most people use the best equipment they can afford for the task at hand. But the tools don't give them the talent. And they don't just shoot two or three times a day and hope to hit a target. To be selected, they have to be able to hit that tiny target consistently, many, many times in succession no matter what, day in day out. It's extremely unlikely that most archers or bow hunters would be good enough to qualify for the Olympics no matter how much they practiced. Olympic archers are just excellent archers, and given the same amount of practice as you have in bow hunting, they would be excellent at that too... assuming they don't mind hunting animals for fun etc.
Target shooters are all about total consistency trying to repeat and replicate all conditions and positions perfectly every time The Hunter has to be much more flexible There is also instinctive shooters that may not have the total consistency but can pull off insane shots in an instant from mad angles
Recurves rule. Just saying, as a former shooter (30 years ago). The power, force, and accuracy...... that is a "money matters" sport. The equipment matters. I piggybacked off of someone who had good equipment and was willing to teach.
As many others said these are 2 different types of shooting. The olympic bow is set up to be as accurate as possible at that 70m distance. But try taking that bow setup in the woods for hunting and you will see how unwieldy it is. It is fine for stationary shooting on even ground in a known distance. Try getting it up to target in confined space where you have to guess the range and have more or less snapshot and it will fail miserably. A friend of mine once wanted to join me on a 3D round but insisted on carrying his olympic setup. He was not really happy after 3 or 4 targets carrying all that weight and constantly adjusting his sight, and finding spots to stand where is stabilizers would not brush at branches.
@@beforetheecho No harm done. It was a funny video. Just wanted to add a bit to the video. There are different bows for different roles and ways of shooting. It is why in traditional archery contests where long ranges are shot with simple bows, like in Buthan or Korea, it is normally enough to hit the target and not hit the bullseye. Shootign 100m+ without any sights and stabilizers is a challenge in itself (in Korean traditional archery you have to hit a 2mx2.5m target that is 145m away) so no need to add additional difficulty to it. Have fun at what you are doing is the important part.
Olympic targets don't move. Real archers can get within range to make the shot without being seen by their target. Can an Olympic archer hit a 6 inch heart on a deer after tracking it for miles without being spotted by the deer. I practiced with a recurve bow at 35 yards with no sights, just sighting down the arrow shaft and put all my shots inside a 10 inch paper plate.
Oh right, Olympic archers aren't "real archers", not like you. Of course, you know for a fact that none of them have ever used any other type of bow or done any other kind of archery, including hunting. They're just pretend archers. But let's see you try out for the Olympic team, see how you compare to them. It should be ultra easy for you, given that the target doesn't move, you get ideal conditions, a bow with sights and stabilisation. Look forward to seeing you on the podium. 😂
good try, but the Olympic archers use super light bows in a similar draw weight, (I think its 48 for men and 33 for women) they are finely tuned with massive stabilizers, extended sights that probably weigh half of what the average re curve hunting bow weighs, the arrows super are super thin and only weigh about 10 grains or less without the tip, maybe 400-500 grains with the tip. they practice on average 8 plus hours a day 6-7 days a week for months and years on end. I shot in a local archery league 40 years ago. it was mostly hunters with compound bows in an indoor 20 yard range with 10 ring paper targets. it was 2 man teams but we still competed against each other. one year there was a couple guys that joined the league, one had actually been to the 1984 olympics that year and won a bronze, the other was training for the 88 olympics with the fist guy as his coach. they decided they would join the league for fun to break the monotony of their normal practice routine. the leagues only lasted 8 weeks one night a week. they were nice guys but a little cocky and even told several people "this will be easy" at the end of the league the bronze medalist finished 4th and the one training who was being coached by the first guy finished 5th, yours truly won 1st and my partner finished 2nd another bow hunter finished 3rd. Have that olympic archer come and pick up a hunters re curve without stabilizers and extended sights and heavier arrows and he wouldnt do any better than you. if you shot that same bow you used here even 3-4 hours a day 3-4 times a week for 6-8 weeks I bet you would be consistently hitting the 10 ring
You hit the target from both distances within a few shots. i bet if you trained those distances you'd at least be good enough to give the Olympic trials a go.
Long bow is based on instinct shooting. Ur aiming it and taking too long to shoot it. I could be wrong but I've watched some great ones in past and my cousin who can shoot a rabbit at that distance 1st try .. he doenst aim
That's a pretty heavy arrow to be shooting long distance. At 47 #s, a 470 grain arrow is still 10 grains per inch. But you're primarily a hunter, so I understand the use of a heavy arrow.
I wonder how well an Olympic archer would do shooting in a hunting situation. You know, shooting thru the brush, at unknown distances without all the gimmicks (stabilizes and such) using broadheat tipped arrows. Don't think this is a reasonable comparison. It's like racing a formula one car on an dirt buggy track.
You gotta learn the lingo. When you start shooting that far you have to throw in words like gravitational pull, corriolis effect, gyroscopic spin deflection, and See and Spray😂😅🤣
Gap shooting is actually using a sight but I understand what you’re saying. I agree great fun, nothing like the flight of an arrow. Been watching it over 50 years and it never gets old.
90m is hard but a good Olympic Archer will keep all arrows in the gold unless it’s windy. As for bare bow/long bow you’re about average at 90m. You’re not using a clicker (draw length check) and you’re gripping the bow rather then just pushing it these are the critical accuracy factors. Sights are irrelevant given in Olympic archery magnification and electronics are banned also no front sights. Apparently one gold medal winner was legally blind. It’s a sport of execution not aiming.
I would say that while Olympic archers are amazing at their sport, I feel that a bowhunter is a far better shot. An Olympian is shooting under very controlled criteria, practices constantly with high level coaches, using top equipment at specific distances. A bowhunter is using a bow & equipment that they can afford, practicing when they can, is accustomed to shooting a target at various distances & in wildly different weather environments.
Hunting and target shooting are very different. Different bows, different shooting positions, different conditions, different pressures. Hand an Olympian a hunting bow, stick him a tree for five hours in cold weather, limit his motion to what a deer will let him get away with, and add some buck fever. He is going to screw up some 20 yard shots. Likewise, give an experienced bow hunter a target rig, a target at range, and an audience watching, and he won't be much better than a newbie.
The TV coverage of Olympic Archery is terrible. It doesn't give any perspective of the crazy distance that 70 metres / 76 yards is (when you're hitting a 12cm / 5" Gold).
Just remember those guys shoot for hundreds of hours, shooting a very expensive bow and thousands of expensive arrows for Years training. Don't feel bad
Hitting a target with no wind or branches - Olympian. Killing an animal that moves in the wind and arrow path dotted with branches - hunter. Even getting a shot - hunter.
As an avid archery Hunter, really what's the point of recurve archery Olympics?? You want to be the best at a sport that is so antique it serves no function in the real world? Kind of like I can light the most candles in an hour, after all, that's how I lit their homes 1,000 years ago...... Recurve archery will be the exact same thing as muzzleloading with a smoothbore flintlock for a shooting competition. -- don't think I've seen that one.
ah... but can an Olympic recurve archer kill a deer in the forest with one shot from a non-predetermined distance? Love to see them try to drag on of those tricked out bows through the woods and sneak up on a deer. Anyone else think 3D barebow would be an awesome Olympic event? Time it and make the course a few kms long hiking over terrain.
The only fair comparison would be to go to an Olympic range with an Olympic shooter and each shoot the others' equipment. I bet your abilities with superior equipment meant for that purpose you would do well. It would also humble the Olympic shooter with more primitive equipment.
What is up with your stance? I have only seen horse archers depicted firing that way in movies and historical media. It seems to me that the way you were shooting would work well for short range accuracy, but a more traditional stance would be better for long range. I'm no expert though, self taught archer, started shooting before the internet was big. I have learned more technical info since, but live in town so I haven't shot in years 😢
@@beforetheecho I apologize. I didn't mean there was something wrong with it. You hunt, I have never had the chance, only target, and many years ago. You would be the expert here. I just have never seen anyone shoot with the bow held the way you do. It was someone with some knowledge reacting with surprise to seeing it used in a different way by someone with far more knowledge AND experience.
Oh no I didn't take it that way. I honestly try to get comfortable with my feet being close together. In most hunting situations that is how they are going to be.
I don't consider myself an archer, just a guy that loves archery and hunts with a bow...I can hit a clay bird at 80 yds with an 80# bow...Can't do it everytime but will be very close most times...I don't see Olympic archers pulling that weight because they don't need to...I'll stick to my 80# deer killer while they stick to their 48.5#'s for men and 33#'s for women target killer!! 😮😂
I believe you are wrong how many times have u shot from there and how many times have they I believe that if you just practice a bit you’ll be hitting better than them
Olympic archers arent archers. They have a million gadgets that do the work for them and it takes them forever to get shots off. They are skilled at using thier gadgets, but they cant fire accurately without them and they cant fire quickly at all.
Well , ask him how often he misses game he is hunting . You are right though , the principles of accurate shooting are the same for rifles and bows and changing stance/position , bow hold, does not encourage accuracy
what a stupdi camparison, it isn't even a real comparison ... so... yeah you don't miss a 30 inch target at 70/90m... olympic archers don't miss an area off 3-5 inches most time at that distance. great achievement to hit that targets, yeah, but nothing to do with "keep up" .. and also bowhunting is shit... has nothing to do with hunting principles/huntsmanship.... even a perfect shot does not kill the deer at once, compared to a bullet... onyl because you're allowed to do it, doesn't make it great ...
You are an “archer”. Bare basic bow and some arrows. Those Olympic shooters are ….. well I’m not sure. But I know they use a hell of a lot more junk than just a bow. Sights, stabilizers, on and on and on. I’d like to see one of those rigs taken whitetail hunting in the woods. It wouldn’t be pretty. I respect “your” ability. And their observation of ballistics. When I bow hunt I don’t look for anything beyond 50 yards, and that’s with a crossbow. Back when I could still hold a bow with my left hand it wasn’t a lot different other than I was looking to be inside of that 50 yard range. Shots outside of fifty yards the clean kill isn’t realistic so shouldn’t even be considered. To me Olympic archery is at best nothing more than a display. It’s not practical, certainly not ethical (for hunting). So really pointless.
It’s an Olympic Competition. Pole Vaulting is also pointless, but it is an example of maximizing a very particular form of human endeavor . Just because you find it “pointless“ doesn’t mean that it isn’t an amazing thing to see and amazing that people can get so good at it. Just as it is amazing that people can be good at bow hunting. Some would argue that is a pointless exercise in a world with supermarkets. We are free to disagree, but that doesn’t make their point of view invalid, just different than our own. Tolerance and respect. . .
Yes, the old Olympic archery format was 90 meters, 70 meters using a 120 centimeter target and 50 meters, 30 meters using a 80 centimeter target. If you were fortunate enough to be selected for the U.S. Olympic archery program you would be participating in an intensive program both physical and mental. The archer may be shooting 300 to 400 arrows a day, 6 days a week. By the way South Korea dominates in Olympic archery. It is their national sport. The South Korean woman broke the world record at the 2024 Olympics shooting 694 points out of a possible 720 points at 70 meters, out scoring ALL the men.
That's 47 1/4 inches and 31 1/2 inches for us Americans on the target size.
I refuse to watch after the full wokeness on display are they shooting instinctively as he is here or full scoped weighted ETC curios to know thanks in advance
No wonder triggers and compound bows were developed, no person would last using long ,recurve, horse, or Japanese( don't know what it's called)bow. With traditional finger grips.
@@paulbutikofer4284But isn't that the great thing about archery - you can choose want bow type you want and enjoy it and and I can choose mine
@@josephschultz I tried to watch it years ago.
They don't shoot bows in the olympics, they just pull the trigger on a mechanical monstrosity that takes ninety percent of the skill/talent/athletics out of it.
I've heard them described as "nuclear fusion laser guided missile launchers".
I sincerely doubt that any of them could even draw a real bow.
We've all been thinking about it. Good on you for trying it 🤘
So, how about the reverse question: can an Olympic archer keep up with a bow hunter? Walk two miles to three miles through brush and rough terrain, freeze your legs off for several hours, stalk a wild animal to within 20 yards, and make a clean kill with one shot?
Of course they could Olympic athletes are the 1% of the 1%. Do you think they couldn’t walk in cold weather.
@@mwarner1968just because they are top in their particular skill doesn’t mean they are good at everything. Try getting a top darts player to run a marathon!
NO, lol two very different skill sets required.
@@jamesmaybury7452 walking is hardly a skill ----- the Olympian wouldnt have to walk that far if he dropping arrows on a target from 70yards away.
Hunter got to get 20 yards away
You're assuming that none of the competitors are, or ever have been bow hunters, and that none of them do any kind of exercise or cross training?
In the’96 Olympics, the S.Korean women had a sudden death shoot for the gold against the Japanese. The 70m target had a button camera in the very center. I was watching the live feed in the broadcast center as the event happened. The S.Korean archer released the arrow that you could see rise and and then approaching the target, then began dropping, and hit the camera breaking it!
NBC never broadcast it, and only passingly mentioned the 2hour long shoot off. I’ve never watched or kept up with the olympics since. I own a bow used in the ‘68 Olympics, took first place in the BSA jr. Olympics in h.s….
Pretty sure the first live streamed olympics were in 2004
@@dedpoptartLive feed is different than live streaming.
Many Olympic archers are hunters too. Particularly in western countries. Some of you dont seem to get that.
The biggest problem i the weight of the arows. 700gr on 70 meters is crazy. From my experience I know. That was one time I took my hunting set up (arows 600 gr) to the 3D competition. There was plenty of targets att 25 to 35 yards and my poit on distance is 20. I had to aim over the targets the whole time and that wasnt good. Next time I took my 40 # bow and 350 gr. Arrows and I won first place. Only becouse of my poit on was now 30 yards. What I want to say is that the pro olympic shooters have very light arrows and extreme flat trajectory which makes it all different. They are still good, no doubt on that. (sorry for the english) Greetings from Sweden
Not sure the deer would stay still long enough for you to spray the target on 🤔!
Now that's funny right there. 😃
I used to coach target archery- the key is "repeatability of your action" with the equipment you use. You know the distance, you can measure the wind and you get sighter arrows to adjust your sights at the start. That's when the mental game comes in to precicely repeat your the six dozen arrows you are going to send to the target, where you have to maintain your concentration.
The wasp at 3:50 is awesome. Trying to become the next TH-cam sensation.
Set up a fancy recurve a few years ago to do the same. We had a 100yr range at work, best lunch breaks ever. I dont know if your into the indoor scene, but the Lancaster Classic is always a blast. Barebow has gotten huge for them in the last few years.
Barebow is a degenerated child of archery, made up by corporations who sell tech bow gear, for the people who think they can shoot.
Very hard to make a shot like that with no sights. It always amazed me that Olympic archers could make shots like that.
Haha they do have sites but it's still a recurve and they are crazy accurate
Heck I can’t even see that far!!! 😂😂
As an ex Bare Bow recurve Archer I can say after many hours of practice 70 and 90 metres is very doable.
Impressive really, I have switched to a recurve this year, the release is kicking my butt 😂. Worst of all the release is probably the most important part. Well at least I'm very confident at 12-18 yds, but still get some fishtailing 😢 every so often. Fun video, I wouldn't even try with my "plucky" release.
I've been meaning to learn arrow lobbing. Many pins, a bubble, light well made arrows I bet I could hit from 90m without much problem. Could do it south paw too.
Could probably do 140.
Without sights is probably a totally different story though out that far.
Watched a Gold Medal archer on a hunting show years ago. Missed a good buck first time bow hunting. Deer and targets are separate issues.. lol
Targets Don't Move
It's not for everyone shooting a target and taking the life of an animal are different, at least for me. My first deer made me realize the fragility of life and to respect the hunt, no amount of target shooting can prepare you for those internal thoughts.
And that proves what exactly? How much time did they have with that particular bow and arrow type? How much experience did they have in any kind of hunting? Are you saying that given a bit of time, he/she couldn't adapt and be exceptionally accurate? Every person has to get used to the particular equipment they're using, be it a bow, a tennis racquet or a racing car. And do you think all Olympic archers the same?
@@another3997 it proves exactly what the fuck I said. Targets and animals are not the same. I'll never be an Olympic shooter. I'll never be a 3D shooter that could compete. But I've been deadly as hell in 43 years of bowhunting. So that's my point.
@@Hawken707 the other thing people don't think about is the shaft diameter of competition vs hunting arrows. I run 4mm shafts for better penitration hunting. If I remember the competition arrows are around 9 or 10mm. Like you said diffrent skill set for diffrent situations.
Don't forget, my friend, that Olympic archers are using sights and stabilizer bars that keep the bow steady. I've been practicing with a longbow, and I'm not very good, but when I used my cousin's compound bow; I was hitting bullseyes left and right.
Maybe you shouldn't jump to rash conclusions. You weren't consistently hitting bullseyes from 230 feet away. The sights are there so they can actually see where their shots are landing and make tiny adjustments... fractions of an inch can separate 1st and last places. Unlike you, to be selected, they have to be able to repeatedly hit it many dozens of times in a row, day in, day out. The Stabilisation is just a tool that helps them to keep the incredible consistency over long periods and many shots. Just like carpenters and engineers use tools to keep things consistent.
@another3997 go pick a fight with somebody else, you generically named troll.
Good on you for having a go. No chance of understanding the challenges of each others game unless you give it a go. Maybe you should try with an olympic bow with all the sights, stabiliser and other gadgets surely its got to be easy then 😂
Olympic archers dont shoot from 90m anymore.
70 m is the distance now.
They shoot their whole life from youth classes from this one known distance. With a sight. And a low anchor, that enables them to look through riser and not point over the target.
Every Olympic archer that tried trad shooting said that it is much harder.
Rubbish. No, they don't all train from a young age, at just one distance and with sights etc. That may happen in certain countries, but most are simply people who showed talent in general archery, and chose to train in the Olympic style, whatever age they were. They gain recognition through organised competitions, and a committee will choose the best ones they can find for each discipline. Many countries don't have state sponsored training schemes for most sports. There are generally no age restrictions on Olympic athletes... one of the Turkish duo that took silver in 10m target pistol was 51 years old.
Korean traditional archery is 140 meters. It'll be interesting to see someone regularly try other than Koreans.
You put the target camera in the middle of a hornet's nest?😅 Fun watching you shoot!
Haha that's those dang corn flies they are everywhere! Thanks for watching
Take those cans to side of garage, B4 the Echo
The real question is could they hang with the hunters they shoot in a perfect environment. We shoot elevated with branches in our sight. did your target move and now it’s a quarter away shot? Is it snowing? Making distance adjustments. Low light. I can keep going. It is clear who is better. I don’t look down on them. It’s just completely different your hunting an animal. Love to a them be accurate when buck fever hits them.
People love to think they're skills are better and harder to master than everyone else's. 🤣 But their targets are small, and very far away. 70M is 229.66 feet. They use tools to help with consistency, just like most people use the best equipment they can afford for the task at hand. But the tools don't give them the talent. And they don't just shoot two or three times a day and hope to hit a target. To be selected, they have to be able to hit that tiny target consistently, many, many times in succession no matter what, day in day out. It's extremely unlikely that most archers or bow hunters would be good enough to qualify for the Olympics no matter how much they practiced. Olympic archers are just excellent archers, and given the same amount of practice as you have in bow hunting, they would be excellent at that too... assuming they don't mind hunting animals for fun etc.
Target shooters are all about total consistency trying to repeat and replicate all conditions and positions perfectly every time
The Hunter has to be much more flexible
There is also instinctive shooters that may not have the total consistency but can pull off insane shots in an instant from mad angles
Recurves rule. Just saying, as a former shooter (30 years ago). The power, force, and accuracy...... that is a "money matters" sport. The equipment matters. I piggybacked off of someone who had good equipment and was willing to teach.
Very fun and cool video
As many others said these are 2 different types of shooting.
The olympic bow is set up to be as accurate as possible at that 70m distance.
But try taking that bow setup in the woods for hunting and you will see how unwieldy it is. It is fine for stationary shooting on even ground in a known distance.
Try getting it up to target in confined space where you have to guess the range and have more or less snapshot and it will fail miserably.
A friend of mine once wanted to join me on a 3D round but insisted on carrying his olympic setup.
He was not really happy after 3 or 4 targets carrying all that weight and constantly adjusting his sight, and finding spots to stand where is stabilizers would not brush at branches.
Calm down man it was just a fun video I thought some people would enjoy. I enjoyed making it.
@@beforetheecho No harm done. It was a funny video.
Just wanted to add a bit to the video.
There are different bows for different roles and ways of shooting.
It is why in traditional archery contests where long ranges are shot with simple bows, like in Buthan or Korea, it is normally enough to hit the target and not hit the bullseye. Shootign 100m+ without any sights and stabilizers is a challenge in itself (in Korean traditional archery you have to hit a 2mx2.5m target that is 145m away) so no need to add additional difficulty to it.
Have fun at what you are doing is the important part.
Great freehand Bullseye. I once shot a Groundhog at 83yds with a recurve and 200gr Snuffer. Obviously pure luck. Held 12’ft high.
hahah what a shot!
The great thing about shooting long range is you can actually watch how your arrows truly fly
Olympic targets don't move. Real archers can get within range to make the shot without being seen by their target. Can an Olympic archer hit a 6 inch heart on a deer after tracking it for miles without being spotted by the deer. I practiced with a recurve bow at 35 yards with no sights, just sighting down the arrow shaft and put all my shots inside a 10 inch paper plate.
Oh right, Olympic archers aren't "real archers", not like you. Of course, you know for a fact that none of them have ever used any other type of bow or done any other kind of archery, including hunting. They're just pretend archers. But let's see you try out for the Olympic team, see how you compare to them. It should be ultra easy for you, given that the target doesn't move, you get ideal conditions, a bow with sights and stabilisation. Look forward to seeing you on the podium. 😂
I think you might have one the pewter metal
Hahah the aluminum foil metal
@@beforetheecho lol
good try, but the Olympic archers use super light bows in a similar draw weight, (I think its 48 for men and 33 for women) they are finely tuned with massive stabilizers, extended sights that probably weigh half of what the average re curve hunting bow weighs, the arrows super are super thin and only weigh about 10 grains or less without the tip, maybe 400-500 grains with the tip. they practice on average 8 plus hours a day 6-7 days a week for months and years on end. I shot in a local archery league 40 years ago. it was mostly hunters with compound bows in an indoor 20 yard range with 10 ring paper targets. it was 2 man teams but we still competed against each other. one year there was a couple guys that joined the league, one had actually been to the 1984 olympics that year and won a bronze, the other was training for the 88 olympics with the fist guy as his coach. they decided they would join the league for fun to break the monotony of their normal practice routine. the leagues only lasted 8 weeks one night a week. they were nice guys but a little cocky and even told several people "this will be easy"
at the end of the league the bronze medalist finished 4th and the one training who was being coached by the first guy finished 5th, yours truly won 1st and my partner finished 2nd another bow hunter finished 3rd.
Have that olympic archer come and pick up a hunters re curve without stabilizers and extended sights and heavier arrows and he wouldnt do any better than you. if you shot that same bow you used here even 3-4 hours a day 3-4 times a week for 6-8 weeks I bet you would be consistently hitting the 10 ring
You hit the target from both distances within a few shots. i bet if you trained those distances you'd at least be good enough to give the Olympic trials a go.
Long bow is based on instinct shooting. Ur aiming it and taking too long to shoot it. I could be wrong but I've watched some great ones in past and my cousin who can shoot a rabbit at that distance 1st try .. he doenst aim
I'm sure after about 10000 arrows or so, you'd get pretty good.
You gotta remember you’re used to shooting at moving targets
the farther you shoot with traditional the more vertical your bow needs to be
That's a pretty heavy arrow to be shooting long distance. At 47 #s, a 470 grain arrow is still 10 grains per inch.
But you're primarily a hunter, so I understand the use of a heavy arrow.
Yep I rarely shoot over 20 yards
Stay in yer Lane ,Dangit 😂😂
haha what do you mean?
If you practiced 8 hours a day for years, you would most likely run with the olympians.
I wonder how well an Olympic archer would do shooting in a hunting situation. You know, shooting thru the brush, at unknown distances without all the gimmicks (stabilizes and such) using broadheat tipped arrows.
Don't think this is a reasonable comparison. It's like racing a formula one car on an dirt buggy track.
Seems a pretty good analogy really.
Those colors are, wicked…
There is no ' bullseye ' on an archery target . The centre is called ' gold ' .
You just need a longer Doinker, mate!
Haha that's probably is main issue
You gotta learn the lingo. When you start shooting that far you have to throw in words like gravitational pull, corriolis effect, gyroscopic spin deflection, and See and Spray😂😅🤣
You do realize they anchor on the chin? The trajectory needed is why
OH YEAH..... definitely not apples to apples but fun to try...they also have a sight
Gap shooting is actually using a sight but I understand what you’re saying.
I agree great fun, nothing like the flight of an arrow. Been watching it over 50 years and it never gets old.
Air pistol next, 😂
90m is hard but a good Olympic Archer will keep all arrows in the gold unless it’s windy. As for bare bow/long bow you’re about average at 90m. You’re not using a clicker (draw length check) and you’re gripping the bow rather then just pushing it these are the critical accuracy factors. Sights are irrelevant given in Olympic archery magnification and electronics are banned also no front sights. Apparently one gold medal winner was legally blind.
It’s a sport of execution not aiming.
If they did field archery in the Olympics, instead of target archery? People might actually watch Olympic archery.
Mounted archery would be a cool category. Not only do you have to be a good shot, you also need to be a skilled rider. I think it would be sweet.
.....most compound guys are lost. i would like to see bare bow in the Olympics.
They use them in similar competitions in Japan, go watch the competitions, it is called Kyudo, they are massive long bows.
As their names say, Olympic Archers are "shooters" while Bowhunters are "Hunters"! Two completely different disciplines!
I would say that while Olympic archers are amazing at their sport, I feel that a bowhunter is a far better shot. An Olympian is shooting under very controlled criteria, practices constantly with high level coaches, using top equipment at specific distances. A bowhunter is using a bow & equipment that they can afford, practicing when they can, is accustomed to shooting a target at various distances & in wildly different weather environments.
Move the pick up ffs 😂
Hunting and target shooting are very different. Different bows, different shooting positions, different conditions, different pressures. Hand an Olympian a hunting bow, stick him a tree for five hours in cold weather, limit his motion to what a deer will let him get away with, and add some buck fever. He is going to screw up some 20 yard shots. Likewise, give an experienced bow hunter a target rig, a target at range, and an audience watching, and he won't be much better than a newbie.
What is the strength of your bow?
48lbs
Try shooting a compound bow with sights totally different game again closer to the Olympic shoots than what you are doing
For archery a metre and a yard are roughly the same. Not accurate for woodwork building but walking so on. Close enough
The TV coverage of Olympic Archery is terrible. It doesn't give any perspective of the crazy distance that 70 metres / 76 yards is (when you're hitting a 12cm / 5" Gold).
Just remember those guys shoot for hundreds of hours, shooting a very expensive bow and thousands of expensive arrows for Years training. Don't feel bad
so where was the Olympic Archer?
You cant eat targets ?
Hitting a target with no wind or branches - Olympian. Killing an animal that moves in the wind and arrow path dotted with branches - hunter. Even getting a shot - hunter.
As an avid archery Hunter, really what's the point of recurve archery Olympics?? You want to be the best at a sport that is so antique it serves no function in the real world?
Kind of like I can light the most candles in an hour, after all, that's how I lit their homes 1,000 years ago......
Recurve archery will be the exact same thing as muzzleloading with a smoothbore flintlock for a shooting competition. -- don't think I've seen that one.
ah... but can an Olympic recurve archer kill a deer in the forest with one shot from a non-predetermined distance? Love to see them try to drag on of those tricked out bows through the woods and sneak up on a deer. Anyone else think 3D barebow would be an awesome Olympic event? Time it and make the course a few kms long hiking over terrain.
That's no comparison to sneaking up on the target - the Olympic guards hit immediately,
Hahaha that's funny
You hunt with that accuracy??what is your normal range? 10 feet.
Haha 😂 inside of 20 yards is my limit with a longbow. I can keep it inside of a softball at that distance
The only fair comparison would be to go to an Olympic range with an Olympic shooter and each shoot the others' equipment. I bet your abilities with superior equipment meant for that purpose you would do well. It would also humble the Olympic shooter with more primitive equipment.
What is up with your stance? I have only seen horse archers depicted firing that way in movies and historical media. It seems to me that the way you were shooting would work well for short range accuracy, but a more traditional stance would be better for long range. I'm no expert though, self taught archer, started shooting before the internet was big. I have learned more technical info since, but live in town so I haven't shot in years 😢
I have no idea what's wrong with my stance either 😂
@@beforetheecho I apologize. I didn't mean there was something wrong with it. You hunt, I have never had the chance, only target, and many years ago. You would be the expert here. I just have never seen anyone shoot with the bow held the way you do. It was someone with some knowledge reacting with surprise to seeing it used in a different way by someone with far more knowledge AND experience.
Oh no I didn't take it that way. I honestly try to get comfortable with my feet being close together. In most hunting situations that is how they are going to be.
So, four. minutes in and the answer is, clearly, no. Out of here now that that question is answered.
Haha it's a big no
I don't consider myself an archer, just a guy that loves archery and hunts with a bow...I can hit a clay bird at 80 yds with an 80# bow...Can't do it everytime but will be very close most times...I don't see Olympic archers pulling that weight because they don't need to...I'll stick to my 80# deer killer while they stick to their 48.5#'s for men and 33#'s for women target killer!! 😮😂
I am a bow Hunter. Olympic archers are wayyyyyyyyyy better than me.
Hahah same same
I believe you are wrong how many times have u shot from there and how many times have they I believe that if you just practice a bit you’ll be hitting better than them
At 15 yards with ethical gpp? Bow hunters.
There is some cope in these comments. Olympic archers might not be good at shooting dear but can a bow hunters shoot while riding a horse?😅
Olympic recurve can’t do that either
Olympic archers shoot 72 arrows in the qualifications. So you have to hit 72 times in a row, not once 😉.
Hahah dang I better get to practicing
Why are you not using a real longbow?
Cause I'm an idiot is that what you wanted me to say?
You couldn't afford to use a big piece of cardboard?
No
Olympic archers arent archers. They have a million gadgets that do the work for them and it takes them forever to get shots off. They are skilled at using thier gadgets, but they cant fire accurately without them and they cant fire quickly at all.
look at your video the way you cant your bow you are sighting different for every shot hold your boe straight up and down.
Well , ask him how often he misses game he is hunting . You are right though , the principles of accurate shooting are the same for rifles and bows and changing stance/position , bow hold, does not encourage accuracy
The painting thing was very juvenile!
Thanks!
Man you need to take up knitting.
Hahah yes for sure
what a stupdi camparison, it isn't even a real comparison ... so... yeah you don't miss a 30 inch target at 70/90m... olympic archers don't miss an area off 3-5 inches most time at that distance.
great achievement to hit that targets, yeah, but nothing to do with "keep up" .. and also bowhunting is shit... has nothing to do with hunting principles/huntsmanship.... even a perfect shot does not kill the deer at once, compared to a bullet... onyl because you're allowed to do it, doesn't make it great ...
I hope you don’t hunt for food.
You are an “archer”. Bare basic bow and some arrows. Those Olympic shooters are ….. well I’m not sure. But I know they use a hell of a lot more junk than just a bow. Sights, stabilizers, on and on and on.
I’d like to see one of those rigs taken whitetail hunting in the woods. It wouldn’t be pretty.
I respect “your” ability. And their observation of ballistics.
When I bow hunt I don’t look for anything beyond 50 yards, and that’s with a crossbow. Back when I could still hold a bow with my left hand it wasn’t a lot different other than I was looking to be inside of that 50 yard range. Shots outside of fifty yards the clean kill isn’t realistic so shouldn’t even be considered.
To me Olympic archery is at best nothing more than a display. It’s not practical, certainly not ethical (for hunting). So really pointless.
It’s an Olympic Competition. Pole Vaulting is also pointless, but it is an example of maximizing a very particular form of human endeavor . Just because you find it “pointless“ doesn’t mean that it isn’t an amazing thing to see and amazing that people can get so good at it. Just as it is amazing that people can be good at bow hunting. Some would argue that is a pointless exercise in a world with supermarkets. We are free to disagree, but that doesn’t make their point of view invalid, just different than our own. Tolerance and respect. . .
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