Session 2: Intrinsic Value - Foundation

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  • Sets up the foundations of intrinsic valuation, with a contrast between valuing a business and valuing the equity in that business.

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  • @MegaSyncmaster793
    @MegaSyncmaster793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +571

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      @shwetanksinha1142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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    @3m0k1d4evr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +243

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  • @zuma404
    @zuma404 7 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    A great teacher is one that can take the most complex idea and explain it in the most simplest way. Thank you for the value you give us!

  • @02mba-thesisonly62
    @02mba-thesisonly62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    00:52 the essence of intrinsic valuation: (1) cash flow (2) growth (3) risk
    01:09 discount of cash flow valuation ≠intrinsic valuation
    01:18 intrinsic valuation is designed for "cash flow generating" assets. [can value a start-up company. cant value an art piece]
    01:54 intro of "discount of cash flow valuation": (1) present value of the expected cash flow on that asset
    02:32 2 ways to set up a "discount of cash flow valuation": (1) expected cash flows, look at all possible(good or bad) outcomes. the "discount rate" is how you adjust the risks, higher "risks" with higher "discount rates" than save the assets.
    03:08 adjust the "discount rate" or adjust the "cash flow" for risk
    03:26 risk-averse for "certainty (risk-free) income
    04:31 for a company to have value, its cash flows have to have value at "some point in time".
    07:07 value either the Equity of the business or the entire business
    07:54 the value of equity(cost of equity) = cash flow to equity discounted back at that rate of return
    09:53 2 ways to value equity:
    (1) value equity directly by taking cash flow to equity & discounting at the cost of equity
    (2) value equity indirectly by valuing the business and subtracting out debt
    10:13 first principles in valuation: never mix and match cash flow
    don't discount cash flow to equity the cost of capital
    don't discount cash flow of business at the cost of equity.
    make sure your cash flow & discount rate are matched up.
    10:52 intrinsic valuation = valuing companies based on their specific characteristics
    10:59 discounted cash flow valuation = a tool to estimate intrinsic value, need to estimate expected cash flow & adjust the risk (either by replacing the expected cash flow with certainty equivalents/ or adjust the discounted rate for risk)
    11:12 have to make a choice: (1) valuing the E (2) valuing the entire business
    that choice will govern how you estimate the CF & discount rate you use.

  • @yuchaofan
    @yuchaofan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

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  • @digitalabhi5992
    @digitalabhi5992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

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    @thefrugalinvestor9596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

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    @kailashnair4447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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    @nicksmith837 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Absolutely an incredible pedagogue, thank you for sharing this level of knowledge!

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    @nailanteikamotho3771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

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    @Sokrabiades 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    @alvinbrewster1513 8 ปีที่แล้ว +53

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    @vtwanderer07 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

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    @animmeshgupta2682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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      @govindgoel2442 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @sumitmsn2
    @sumitmsn2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wooowww.. Simplicity in the most complex topics. Damodaran sir did in 15 min what my prof couldn't in entire semester. Thank you sir.

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    @sushmitajoshi4111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such beauty in teaching the concepts! Much like a story that you just want to keep listening to.

  • @goethemephisto
    @goethemephisto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clear, simple, and to the point!

  • @tasneemhegde9588
    @tasneemhegde9588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely clear explanation of something that is tough to understand.... Thanks Mr damodaran

  • @shazislam7720
    @shazislam7720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This man keeps things simple but highly effective. Respect.

  • @24Elliottwaves
    @24Elliottwaves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wondering why some people did dislike this amazing tutorial? They should have posted constructive comments if there is something they want to add or discount.

  • @darwinperezdepablo749
    @darwinperezdepablo749 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a great video. Complex topics that are purely simplified.

  • @bikashpaul8809
    @bikashpaul8809 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great teacher....I learn a lot from him. Thank you sir.

  • @alexandervalladares2501
    @alexandervalladares2501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dr. Damodoran you are amazing... Taking my FMVA certification from The CFI Institute and this is way better.

    • @FaizanAhmad-eo3oe
      @FaizanAhmad-eo3oe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Alexander. I wonder if you've taken financial modeling as a career, if yes, then how is it going for you?

  • @rajaking2789
    @rajaking2789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your new messenger for the corporate world

  • @richpet8165
    @richpet8165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this valuable videos. I am grateful for it!

  • @marcn1881
    @marcn1881 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is of immense value (no pun intended)!!! Thank you very much for sharing these amazing series and helping everyone become a better investor professor!

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    @vikaskumarkancharla3151 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @tpanand63
    @tpanand63 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Excellent - very simple and clear explanation to the concepts.

    • @khms1000
      @khms1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      sir, i don't have much finance background but i want to do valuations for my ideas. can you guide me what else should i study? i have engineering background.

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      @anuragpant2545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @rajeshgupta6874
    @rajeshgupta6874 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thanks for educating.

  • @mi12n
    @mi12n 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone else need to watch the course 6x to grasp the concept? I do. Amazing we can have access to this great lecture for free!!

  • @lenniyovita3661
    @lenniyovita3661 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a great Professor... thanks Prof Damodaran..

  • @chrisc9725
    @chrisc9725 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what a Master looks and speaks like.

  • @literaryartist1
    @literaryartist1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    *Thank you for this gift. The series is phenomenal and best of all accessible. I have picked up 4 or your books but haven't gotten around to reading them. I will be doing that very soon. But for now thank you for this.*

    • @anvy4u
      @anvy4u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      pls share book names

    • @literaryartist1
      @literaryartist1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@anvy4u
      1. Investment Valuation: Tools and Techniques for Determining the Value of Any Asset
      2. Investment Philosophies: Successful Strategies and the Investors who made them Work
      3. The Dark Side of Valuation: Valuing Young, Distressed and Complex Businesses
      by Aswath Damodaran

  • @vipulpanwar7816
    @vipulpanwar7816 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks a lot Professor for sharing your videos here. Really helpful for global student community.

    • @krishnakishore1083
      @krishnakishore1083 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Krishna Kishore excellent......thanks a lot professor

  • @tanyongsheng4561
    @tanyongsheng4561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the sharing. May I know the difference of assumption needed to be made when calculating COST OF EQUITY using (a) CAPM model, (b) Dividend growth model and (c) Equity payout method (e.g. dividends - share issued + treasury purchased)?
    And I am curious since these 3 methods always lead to different answers, which method the best to apply or need to depend to the circumstances?

  • @nicholasmarchant781
    @nicholasmarchant781 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible delivery

  • @ABCD-fv4bf
    @ABCD-fv4bf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A boon to an entire generation
    Thank you damodaran sir

  • @surianath5230
    @surianath5230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Listening to this guy makes me feel smarter already

  • @goruloveguy
    @goruloveguy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you , love your online session. Very clear.

  • @jinaygala4170
    @jinaygala4170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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    CAME HERE AFTER RACHNA RANADE MAM

  • @Zigr-Inc
    @Zigr-Inc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing brother great breakdown

  • @ayushgoyal361
    @ayushgoyal361 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the lessons

  • @amingilani
    @amingilani 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video. Requesting to include an example in the video for this evaluation,

  • @compilations6358
    @compilations6358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Aswath, I am coming from zero background in finance. I liked your google talk so i wanted to learn more in detail. But In this lecture you directly jumped into discounted cashflow and start using technical term like expected value and risk-free.
    I understand you want to be complete in your statement, but I would appreciate if you can make a lecture series for more common people like me explaining or removing the complexity of these terms. Like those talks at Google.
    Since i know some maths, i understand that expected value means mean value, but i couldnt understand the risk - what exactly it is. Its hard to wrap my head around it.
    Please consider making video which is easy to consume. I am writing this because i believe you are a good teacher. Big Fan!

    • @AhmedMostafa-gu8ot
      @AhmedMostafa-gu8ot ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One simplified way to look at risk is as the standard deviation of returns from the mean.

  • @ganeshkamath8550
    @ganeshkamath8550 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear sir i understand DCF is one of the tools available to arrive at intrinsic value can you suggest few more tools available under intrinsic valuation approach. Further we arrive book value per share based on Net asset value method under which valuation approach it will be covered. Since Intrinsic approach is based on cash flows and relatives approach based on comparable. Kindly advice

  • @hrishi_t
    @hrishi_t หลายเดือนก่อน

    Soothing sound 💙

  • @Learnitall001
    @Learnitall001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is gold.

  • @user-almighty_is_here_now
    @user-almighty_is_here_now ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb, brother Damodaran...

  • @tourist3066
    @tourist3066 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Is there anywhere any actual company being valued .That would be easier for some to understand.

  • @ajayranade4680
    @ajayranade4680 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic sessions

  • @aheeshmantha7360
    @aheeshmantha7360 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aswath is the real GOAT

  • @notoriousbibs3976
    @notoriousbibs3976 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you fine sir.

  • @goruloveguy
    @goruloveguy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you

  • @varunasokan6353
    @varunasokan6353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whenever I hear him talking, I feel like he's telling me " I'm not angry with you, I'm just disappointed "

  • @mahadevanc.r9895
    @mahadevanc.r9895 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍 Great Session....

  • @jkj1459
    @jkj1459 ปีที่แล้ว

    EVERYTHING GOES ABOVE MY HEAD !!! OMG

  • @justducky8508
    @justducky8508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there any courses I can engage in to excel my trading and financial literacy altogether?

  • @ChiChi-sw5iu
    @ChiChi-sw5iu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No one:
    Me to Sir Aswath : YES MASTER 👁👄👁

  • @Juanijia
    @Juanijia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AMEN

  • @fadhilhabibie6392
    @fadhilhabibie6392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That dividend discounted model blew my mind.

  • @arihantsethia7270
    @arihantsethia7270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any source to get those ppt slides or images which sir has shown in the video?

  • @Madhatter975
    @Madhatter975 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you...

  • @sathsah1593
    @sathsah1593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ThANK YOU SO MUCH!!! PROF. DAMODARAN

  • @jabhutt1013
    @jabhutt1013 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lessons, learning a lot, but probably somwhere at 10min point completely lost everything with all the naming...:)) Will have to re-watch it.

  • @aruncharles
    @aruncharles ปีที่แล้ว

    The Intrinsic value of Damodaran must be over the roof

  • @felipevazquez7137
    @felipevazquez7137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing thank you

  • @lalitsharma5666
    @lalitsharma5666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir I'm very interesting to know about Valuation sir from where I have to start my journey what is the first Step lecture I would start ,
    Can i go for this whole lecture sries

  • @shubhangidad6633
    @shubhangidad6633 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way u are making these broad terms simple and understandable. I want you to make videos on financial modelling too, it will be easy for us to gain knowledge.

  • @Ashutosh6365
    @Ashutosh6365 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will someone help me with this?
    According to sir, when we sit for estimating the cash flows (2:32 min), you take all possible considerations in your estimation, the good and the the bad ones. Once i have a list of estimated cashflows, i take an expected value of these cashflows(assuming it to be an average of all estimates for each year). If we take an average of all good and bad cashflows, wont the cashlfows be risk adjusted, cause now they show the bad possibility also? Which is am assuming is my risk.

    • @mohd.amirjamalshaikh7020
      @mohd.amirjamalshaikh7020 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      While considering good and bad scenarios, you still have risk factor associated with your cashflows. Say, in your case, you are averaging out cashflows for all years, each year has its risk factor associated with it and you are not cancelling that out.

    • @freedomprayer007
      @freedomprayer007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you average the cash flows you arrive at an estimate.( Expected Cash flow )
      How 'certain' that cash flow will be is risk.

  • @himanshujain2873
    @himanshujain2873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Professor Damodaran
    I am facing a problem with finding data related to risk free rate and equity risk premium(ERP) and relative risk or beta
    I am form india and I'm trying to value the finance stock (bajaj finance)
    Please sir try to help me to find this data and how i can find internsic value of finance stock or banking stock please sir
    Thanks Professor Damodaran sir

  • @vikaskumarkancharla3151
    @vikaskumarkancharla3151 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching back in 2019

  • @caribbeanqueen1389
    @caribbeanqueen1389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg. It FINALLY CLICKED!
    Why the fuck my lecturers couldn't explain it so simply!!!

  • @futarmaljain3228
    @futarmaljain3228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What are other tools for intrinsic valuation apart from DCF

    • @jeffallenwang
      @jeffallenwang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DDM is other popular one. Also there's an IV calculator that Ben Graham used

  • @vatsaltripathi2628
    @vatsaltripathi2628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We will value entire business prof .
    That seems more logical .

  • @gamingguru3979
    @gamingguru3979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have this question, if anyone could reply the solution you are great!
    When we discount the cash flow to the firm at the cost of equity we should get an upward biased estimate right? Like then we are only subtracting what the equity investors demand not including debt payments... from a huge amount like cash flow to business.
    Similarly
    When we discount the cash flow to the equity at the cost of capital we should get an downward biased estimate right? Like then we are subtracting what the equity investors demand and debt payments... from a small amount like cash flow to equity which is already have debt subtracted off?
    Is it something to do with the equation?
    Like the denominator side is greater or smaller because we sqaure it? [E(CFn)/(1+r)^n]

    • @sangaylala1924
      @sangaylala1924 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leaving this comment so I get notified when someone answers this question

  • @Cloninginvesting
    @Cloninginvesting 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You🙏

  • @pajeetsingh
    @pajeetsingh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has he done any video on SPACS?

  • @arvindgr94
    @arvindgr94 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 3:39, i dont see t in the formula, is it that both t & n are the same?

  • @Alpha_Q_up.
    @Alpha_Q_up. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great!

  • @RIDON_TRADER
    @RIDON_TRADER ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir

  • @leonardorakrot3443
    @leonardorakrot3443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if the company has no debt? You are going the equity way inevitably?

  • @satyamshubham6676
    @satyamshubham6676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, this video is super cool. Is there any book you would recommend to read in order to get an in depth knowledge?

    • @Frugal_Invest
      @Frugal_Invest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd say a combination of multiple books, and not one in particular.

    • @satyamshubham6676
      @satyamshubham6676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Frugal_Invest can you give some examples?

    • @shelly8844
      @shelly8844 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@satyamshubham6676 he has many published books you can check those out

  • @nathanbarnhart2529
    @nathanbarnhart2529 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone clear something up for me? If the equation calls for the cashflows to be divided by (1+r)^n, wouldn't that mean that the discount rate number would be absolutely massive in later time periods? I think it looks like a simple typo.

  • @tyler-iy4jk
    @tyler-iy4jk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how do you put a number to risk?

    • @freedomprayer007
      @freedomprayer007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Statistical tools used. Eg standard deviation

  • @amanlalshrestha4204
    @amanlalshrestha4204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think I am in love with you!

  • @bobbymerriman
    @bobbymerriman ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm confused why the discount rate is adjusting for risk if the cash flows are measured based on expected values? Shouldn't the expected value component of the cash flows already account for risk since the expected value includes the probability of both good and bad times? That is, the expected value is just the weighted average of cash flows across different future scenarios with the weights being equal to the probability of that scenario occurring. The only explanation I can think of is that the expected value is capturing more "systematic" or "macroeconomic" conditions, while the discount rate would be capturing more "firm-specific" risk, but I am not quite clear and was hoping you could explain the difference between the discount rate measuring risk and the expected value capturing different "risky" scenarios.

    • @eliotsandoval
      @eliotsandoval ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that’s why there’s two approaches:
      - You can use expected cash flows and adjust your discount rate. Because expected is based on hope and not certainty, expected cash flows still have some risk involved.
      - Or you can adjust your cash flows aiming to certainty and then use a risk-free rate as your discount rate.

  • @cw9249
    @cw9249 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is this from? what course?

  • @rahulsharmaoo7
    @rahulsharmaoo7 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @ArturK1M
    @ArturK1M ปีที่แล้ว

    When I'm getting confused here, should I carry on to another session or beat this session to death until I understand completely?
    I think I will carry on.

  • @shantanuselokar6357
    @shantanuselokar6357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy has a really great Bond villain vibe.

  • @kriegerdeslichts7481
    @kriegerdeslichts7481 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i always thought DCF only works on stable companies...like Coca Cola etc...what about a fast grower which currently doesnt earn or generate much cashflow...like how could have you valued Amazon 20 years ago...for example..

    • @Eduardozco
      @Eduardozco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As he said on the previous video, you can never get it right. A valuation is an estimate, and it will always be wrong. What you can and should try to do is getting it close enough most of the time

  • @meson2439
    @meson2439 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a total noob on finance, but the formula for terminal value looks weird. Mathematically speaking, shouldn't the value of the assets equal to the sums of the geometric series? I don't understand how the terminal value is derived.

  • @suburbancommandos7888
    @suburbancommandos7888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The intrinsic valuation of his sleeves extends to his wrists.

  • @anuragpant2545
    @anuragpant2545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir could you please provide us the notes.

  • @kartikeyarana995
    @kartikeyarana995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir kindly provide a model for IV

  • @tolat
    @tolat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good stuff

  • @Bronceado7184
    @Bronceado7184 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @lesROKnoobz
    @lesROKnoobz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's all going in one ear and out the other. I'm too dumb for this