BUDGET BUILT N54 & TURBOLAMIK 8HP SWAP UPDATE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- BUDGET BUILT N54 & TURBOLAMIK 8HP SWAP UPDATE
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Watching all these cars come along is great content, excited for the single turbo kit install! can't wait to hear it
You and me both!
For the program , try Right Click / Properties / Compatibility / Advance settings enable / disable High DPI scalability or in display Properties with the scale multiplier , if you have a 4k display and the scale at 300 % try it at 150%.
Yes, this is exactly what I was going to suggest
Thanks so much dude!!
Yep, it's almost always scaling. Thanks, Windows!
Love the videos Andrew. Sounds like you have crap all over the place at the moment. Appreciate you still finding the time for content. When you move, it’s like your brain is scattered as well. Always look forward to a new video. You are becoming the Yoda of E series BMW’s!Very impressive what you’re doing👍🏻
Yeah under the pump is an understatement. I have done a an order of 2 lamik kits this week, which has been a bit of planning, other website orders, ordering a tonne of parts for the evo and then normal learning. We'll get there.
probably not your issue, but I figured I'd post.
.. I had a power steering pump making that noise and turns out the bolts were loose. i tightened then and it went loose again. I put some thread locker on the bolts, still came loose. Turns out, when my engine mounts went bad, the power steering pulley hit the subframe and bent the power steering pump shaft and it would vibrate enough to loosen the bolts (i figured all those out when my belt kept shredding) anyway, good luck! thanks for the awesome content!
Any info from you guys is helpful! Have a great weekend. Dutch regards, Nico.
hoi Nico, ik heb zelf een 335i Met aardig wat PK, 442 whp en 660 nm op een strenge dyno om precies te zijn. Afgelopen zomer heeft mijn 6AT torque converter het begeven. Daarnaast was ook mijn blok kapot gegaan. Het blok is helemaal opnieuw opgebouwd met nog betere turbo's. Nou wou ik ook graag een DCT erin zetten, mijn vraag is of jij hier ervaring mee heb, waar je dit heb laten doen, of mij er eventueel ermee kan helpen. Mvg, Ruben
@@ruben3156 Hoi Ruben. Nou mijn 335i is een uitzonderlijk exemplaar. De 1 e Duitse eigenaar heeft hem af fabriek m tech uit laten voeren en de DCT ook door BMW in laten bouwen. Het was een hotel manager die vond dat hij het niet kon maken om een e93 m3 te rijden. Te patserig, haha. De optielijst laat wel zien dat hij een DCT af fabriek heeft. Dus ik kan je helaas niet helpen met inbouwtips. Gr Nico.
@@Nico_335i_DCT Ha Nico, bedankt voor je snelle reactie, dan ga ik het maar proberen met behulp van de video’s van zero to 60.
@@ruben3156 ja, die mannen zijn goed daarin. Denk dat de grootste uitdaging wordt om de ECU te ' vertellen' dat er dan een DCT in ligt. Het vierkante kader om de gearselector in het cluster, heeft Andrew volgens mij niet aan de praat gekregen, maar weet het niet zeker. Maar als dat alles is hè. En in 0,4 sec schakelen met de dct is echt geweldig. Suc6!
From the looks of it, that car is really fast, even though not all is yet like supposed to. GL with the move 💪🏼
It feels mental to drive. And even when it spins up, it just shifts and keeps pulling. The box makes the car very easy to drive. It doesnt get confused like a 6hp21 with this sort of power going through it.
Favorite N54 channel at this point. Can’t believe how much content is on here. You’ve done it all.
Thanks man, what started as trying to make one car do a sub 5 second 0-100 really got a little out of control.
@@ZeroTo60Tube hey just curious, you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to. But what’s your career been like? Did you grow up working on cars? Did you work in performance shops? I’d love to hear your story.
@@BumpTune8462 While at school i worked in a dollar store and collecting trolleys at the local supermarket, i actually worked full time hours while finishing my last year of high school at the same time, then first year out of school, i got a job as a yard hand while doing the trolley pushing, (the guy who cleans and does all the shitty jobs at a car yard). Then became a salesman 6 months later, i started selling cars accidentally while i was cleaning the cars, customers would walk in and 18 year old me is loosing his mind over this 1998 Ford Lazer TX3 and i would know things about the cars, what makes them cool and selling just naturally happened. Even though it was a cheap used car yard, the cars were so cool and nice compared to what i was driving at the time, a 1985 Sigma. 3 years later I ran a car yard fully with my old man just the two of us, then we started a wrecking yard with David my bro who may see on the channel, the wrecking yard started selling parts online and it went crazy. By 2010 we were the biggest online parts business in the country. Then started a race team, lost an incredible amount of money, no more than you are thinking...... Sold the good business to pay off debt, then specialised in high level in house suspension manufacturing, this was very interesting but didnt make much money. Alongside a tyre import business which has really been paying the bills since 2015. I know the automotive industry from sales, repairs, reconditioning, the entire parts supply chain, modifications and so on better than most people. But until zeroto60 i was never really hands on working on the cars and bikes other than basic servicing. Which is why i love this so much. Just knowing so much i can't be that normal youtuber persona that does so well on camera. They only get away with it as most don't have a clue.
@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks so much for the response. I’m only just trying to get myself started. About to finish in technician school and trying to figure oui what the best next step is.
For the program to show the numbers correct you should configure windows to display Al items to 100%, it is probably on 125%
Hahah cracked up at that quick mafs clip
Quick MAFS! 😂. We know you're a busy busy boy at the moment mate. Appreciate you even getting something out worth watching rather then just filler. It's what makes this chanel so god.
Thanks for the kind words.
Please never stop.
Looking Sweeeeeet!
Even at this point the acceleration is insane! The new rubber seems to have helped a lot from the looks of the Speedo. LOL. Crazy FAST! Glad the thumping sound is the power steering and Not the engine that's for sure. I tend to think the other sound is vacuum related. But that's just armchair wisdom.
Its such a strange sound. Hopefully we work it out. You know what it is a little like a vac leak, but i can confirm its oil related. Someone mentioned alternator and its got me thinking maybe its that. Oh and yeah just to clarify spinning these tyres in 4th gear is a little mind blowing to me. The car is making a tonne of power. Just need to get it shifting at the same time. it currently still pulls a lot of power on the shift
@@ZeroTo60Tube THIS is what I am thinking yours is similar to. (Not really Vacuum related) You've already looked into this a bit but I think you were on the right track with the oil housing perhaps having a sealing problem still. Here the LINK: th-cam.com/video/s-nkJ5Sen9c/w-d-xo.html
Just like Napster said it’s possibly your alternator. The lifespan on alternators and power steering pumps are sorta known for not being very long on those n5x cars
Love how its coming along. Noticed something off with the maths on the injection. 10% on 4.4 is 4.84 and you had 4.6.
I said 4.6 but it was displaying 4.8, my maths was off.
Me had the same noise sound look like it from the intake manifold
After changing diff ratio, the jerk in 4th. Maybe because it has adapted to the wrong ratio now and you should reset adaptations?
Powersterring reservoir has a built in filter. Replace the reservoir. 15$ at fcp
Have you pulled the control valve out of the filter housing? Might have some junk in there keeping it from seating right. Sounds similar to a spool valve barely opened under pressure. I’ll check mine next time I take it for a drive, see if it sounds the same.
I would also advice to ease up on the DI and lean more on the PI. But that is a bit of a double edge sword. The larger cc injectors you have the more likely you’ll be showing rich conditions on the hit if not tune in correctly. I 100% would find where the DI start to drop rail pressure and then start adding n the PI slowly. Until the tune makes it easier to manage the Fuel properly. That way you can take the DI out of the way and you can focus on PI and boost figures. I am not a tuner but my engineering and mechanic senses are telling me this might help.
Im on the same page as well. I kind of feel the PI is much harder to tune (remotely) than the DI, which is why a lot of tuners like to lean on DI more so. But when it comes to making power and going fast. PI for the win!
Right click on your desktop, press display settings and set scaling to 100%. Should fix that text tdisplay issue on AIC.
I will give it a crack!
Andrew, that OFH noise you are hearing sound like the alternator unless what you are hearing is not coming through the video.
But can certainly hear the alternator. If you want to test just drop the belt off.
You know what you might be on to something
My car was pulling timing like this. Injector bore holes were too loose on 4 cylinders.
Note to everyone, just get the Zf pan, aftermarket pans are notorious for fitment problems.
Love your videos man! This car is a bullet.
Looking at the logs I am seeing quite a bit of timing corrections which would definitely be hurting the power. I fixed that issue with Meth port injection on my own car, not sure what your thoughts are on that? Has Ken told you what might be causing those timing corrections they look to persist through the rev range? Your positive timing still builds up nicely but its definitely being affected by the timing drops.
Meth is simply an octane booster when it comes to corrections (it does cool the cylinders to a point, but the meth heats them up as well). Generally, full e85 will allow more timing than a meth combo, drag racers do not use meth anymore its all full e85/e90. But there a few things we can do moving forwards. This is the first revision designed specifically for this motor and trans setup and priority is getting boost control sorted. Once the turbos are doing whats needed dialling in the timing and vanos etc comes in to play.
You have to change the diff ration and wheel circumference as well mate
Apparantly according to Lukasz you don't have to on the E90 lamik config. It doesn't use that data.
That noise is timing chain
About the ultrasonic voice u mentioned, maybe its caused because the oil you run is thicker(10w-60) If I remember correctly. And oil filter housing gasket is not designed to be run with that thick oil?
It could be a contributing factor, but i run it in 2 other N54s that don't make the noise. Mind you they are both on stock oil coolers at the moment.
Where can I get the turbo lamik
That thing is gonna need some slicks, what ever happened to the weld rims on ohreally? Can’t remember if u got them to fit or not
Yeah they fit on ohhrly. However on the street ohhrly would hook better with the AR1s than the Mickey Ts.Well faster dragy times anyway.
It was the Kingtecracing rebuild ?
no, this was amp44 pistons
Would adaptations need to be redone if you change the diff ratio settings and other relevant bits in the controller? Maybe that's why 4th felt a bit howugoin.
I have just got a message from Lamik with a few things to try. So will get on to that tomorrow.
I've always had bad experiences with Dunlops
Most tuners normally ask for 4th gear logs in ZF cars. More gears the merrier though right?
I think this is more so dialling in duty cycle for specific load. Having the gear changes doesn't help. However it may also be a concern for me. I am lucky with safe places to do logs. Where most people simply can not street log in these conditions.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Yeah 4th gear for me is car impounded....which would be for you as well, just a well hidden place :D Might do it at next rolls instead
Another great video. Are you uploading the logs somewhere? Datazap or spoolstreet? Can you share the link if possible? Would love to view them.
Im not at home with laptop right now, but they are on our datazap
@@ZeroTo60Tube thank you! that’s exactly what I am looking for. What’s the datazap link or name?
this is one datazap.me/u/zeroto60tube/flowmax-8hp-old-v6-map?log=0&data=3-21
You're bound to be looking out for any slight noises, hopefully all is okay though 🤞🏻
do you have a lower temp oil thermostat in there by chance?
No its a stock one, but i did have out last year. Wonder if something isn't seated correctly.
3:29 LOL
Cars coming along well. Are you still running JB4 with MHD BE flash on the flow max car?
This one is MHD and AIC for port injection. It works but i don't like how the AIC is fully independent of the DME. That said the lack of JB4 manipulation makes it easier to dial in. You just dont have the safety net.
Can you touch on the move? Also, wonder if you like the interior or would consider dying the seats!
DIY Leather dying go!
What do you mean touch? I wouldnt do these seats. But would considering dying seats absolutely.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Touch on the move as in discuss.
Time for some drag radials
The AR1s hook better than micky thompson on these roads, believe it or not. Well they did with ohhrly which we ran both on.
You might have mentioned it and I might have missed it but isn't the trans all wound up from Lamik trying to get it to work when it was slipping? If so won't those settings need to be undone?
I did just get a message from Lukasz on a few thing to try tomorrow. Finger crossed
Wow the traction is insane 😵 this thing is going to hurt feelings lol😂
As long as it doesn't hurt my feelings by blowing up again..... :P I have had these tyres on Ohhrly, the 17t car and this with the 6at. I am absolutely amazing its spinning them in 4th (which is like 3rd on the 6at, but still). AR1s on the "tracks" around here normally dead hook from these speeds
@@ZeroTo60Tube LOL. Nail on Head!
@@ZeroTo60Tube I use nitto NT05r's once I get some temperature in them they do a great job hooking almost too good went through two pairs of axles under one year😅 but I believe you did a spot on job with the rebuild, definitely nerve-wracking I know; but I wish I had the resolve you do because I wouldn't dare do this on my own without some sort of reference or firsthand experience. Thank you for the invaluable information you are providing for these platforms!
What does the turbolamik controller cost for the 8hp?
The conversion not including the box is around $4000-$5000aud
How is the motor doing on timing corrections? Is ken worried about that being it's a built motor.
Thats something Ken hasnt even started working on yet. However with similar timing targets we are getting similar corrections as the stock motor. Considering its stock compression that is expected. The built motor really means you can ignore the knock sensors a little more. However i dont want to do that. I want this to a last. I should highlight i just realised this car is accelerating faster than ohhrly.
Let’s go!!
This car will be wild one it’s all dialed in. I can’t understand how it spins the ar1s in 4th
Lsd time xD Those budget builds get ferkin expensive :D
@@ZeroTo60Tube Mickey Thompson time! Also that part where you say it’s the oil, I have the same noise. I call it the cricket noise. I used to think it was from the injectors?
@@40hzMusic It has an LSD already...... this thing makes some power.
@@40hzMusic that’s what I said about my n54. I only want 420 hp lol
I doubt I’m there but my Cobb tune can put in work just don’t expect what MHD or JB4 can do in comparison.
Why did you switch tuners? Blown motor? Mine blew as well.
JSR is still my JB4 tuner. I have been talking to Wedge for about a year now, he offered to do this car for free, which was a bit of a no brainer haha. JSR originally started working for Ken they are both the best on the platform right now. But when you helped the development the entire tuning platform (MHD) like ken did 10 years ago, you know a few things that the other tuners dont get access to :P Not to mention Kens tunes are on over 18,000 n54s, he has some data to build form lol
Make a bigger whole in fuel rail. Is a lot of videos what size to drill
Thats more something you would do when you are trying to max out the DI system. I like to take load off the DI.
What ratio gearing is 4th
Is it equivalent to 3rd gear of a 6 speed
And what gear on the 8 speed is 1 to 1 ?
4th is 1.66:1, 6th is the 1:1 gear in the 8hp70. Soooo 4th is actually shorter than 3rd in a 6hp21 (1.56)
Okay okay I’m sold now . I have a e90 335i x drive n55 what 8hp would you recommend. Cheap of course! And to retain x drive ! The forum link you’ve sent me was a f series n55, idk but I’m just assuming I can’t use that write up because I have a e90 x drive
Unfortunately i dont know much about xdrive. However i believe the transfer case from your car will bolt on to even a x5 8hp70. By far the most common 8hp. I would start researching those options. Your car should still control the transfercase, the lamik controls the 8hp and makes the car think its still 6hp. I know a guy with a e70 LCI 8hp70 in a e90 xdrive.
@@ZeroTo60Tube can you point me to his direction I’ll pm him . You and your videos have been a Huge help. And man I love you for all your work and dedication. I WILL next year for sure come to Australia to see the car scene and hopefully run in to you.
We’ve got more air people!
What is that your using to data log?
Tuner Pro for the transmission and MHD for the engine.
Okay I’ve been thinking about turbo swap and was wondering which are better 17t or 19t for more hp
If you are going cheap, go 17t. They spool better than the 19t and the difference in top end is minimal.
Thank you love your videos been following for a while!
Interesting Video about how much stuff you can have a issue with😅 actually I'd freak out too about the weird noises, id shit my pants too after so many hours and money invested😅 btw why is fuel pressure still an up and down? Shouldn't it be somewhat more flat?
Unfortunately with the stock PWM fuel control doing one of the Walbro 460s, we can't get a constant load sorted out. The stock controlled pump will run flat out, then the second one a walbro 525 kicks on at 100% which in turn spikes fuel pressure right up, then the main pump slows down, then return fuel reg is changing based on boost pressure and the cycle of the 2 pumps controlled differently trying to work together continues. It really needs a proper PWM controller for both pumps to smooth it out and ditching the primary fuel reg in the tank as well. However the important thing is low pressure never drops to a problematic value. It would however be nice to have a more consistent pressure behind the port injectors.
You should probably be able to just turn the engine off and then the car goes into ‘P’ automatically.
It does do that actually
Change your laptop resolution to the lowest and reload your app
Somebody hook my guy up with a Reflex, so he can trash the aic
A little birdie told me about MHD+ and what it can do with the relfex sounds pretty incredible.
@@ZeroTo60Tube oooo tell us more!
@@tgedad7632 I can't, i will get in trouble. But the feature set was enough for me to forget about a stand alone for now. MHD teased one feature it in their April fools video fyi. It's going to bring the N54 platform up to a level thats much easier to safely extract power from.
@@ZeroTo60Tube sounds like your about to mess my bank account all up
Feel free to ask motiv to send me one to demo to everyone. I have emailed then begging already haha
At least its not Rod Knock...
Also not someone else's air con compressor :)
Man i was sweating for a while last night. You take that noise away and she sounds quiet as now
HAHA, said "Virgin 6".....
Sorry, upvoted while it was 69. Nice.