Yes! I've been saying it for decades. Women mistake arrogance for confidence. Other guys can spot a blowhard a mile away. But a lot of women fall for the big ego, even when he's got no real accomplishments to back up the attitude.
They have to find out the hard way. The thing is that women are never wrong so they never learn the lesson and will keep chasing the wolf until they’re too old to catch his eye. Karma is real.
If you want her and she isn't interested, you move on. To stay is to put yourself in the friendzone. I.e. The only friendzone is the one you make for yourself.
Im only agreeable when I'm not into the woman so she gets the message. Sometimes they can't handle rejection and resort to entitlement and anger. So I use a different method to let them know aye if I liked u I would disagree with opinions that dont add up to mine.
Well, 'not boring' as in: He puts her on an emotional rollercoaster by e.g. rejecting her. This creates a short-circuit in the woman's brain that causes her to find him much more attractive than before the rejection, the higher attractiveness being a proxy for 'high value'. The following seems like a stretch, but bear with me: I don't have the link at the moment, but I saw a video in which a woman reported that she saw the physical appearance of an average looking, bald guy _visually_ changing to that of a very attractive guy whose bald head positively complemented his overall appearance the moment she heard that he was a highly successful and wealthy man - It seems to be akin to 'morphing' on psychedelics!!
@@alandfaraway552I don’t see why anyone should want to prioritise being an asshole in the one life they have over being a decent and honest person across the board hey, if someone is being a jerk to you out of the blue then let your bad side have a little time in the sun, otherwise be kind to the world around you, because you’d be surprised how far a little compassion goes in a world so lacking of selfless kindness.
@@whitesamuraiI guess men will no longer take her advice seriously though if it were proven true.. Well, those men. who did, as most men refuse dating advice from women overall "if you want to learn to catch fish, ask not the fish itself, ask the fisherman". That's why mikaela will not confirm the rumor if it were true
He's a good guy, but what he's saying here is poppycock. Women know exactly what they're doing when they choose bad men. He's trying to make women innocent angels who are gullible and deceived. No personal accountability on their part. This is simping behavior. Gynocentric to the core. Does he give the same amount of grace to men for their dumb decisions?
I think the reality is that there’s more men willing to be malevolent than there are men who are confident and charismatic. So women mistaken that malevolence for the latter. Whereas there may be 1 of 10 guys in that room that are actually confident, charismatic, but not malevolent. So it isn’t that they’re the best at picking the worst; it’s just that there are a lot of people willing to be bad to get something. Women want it all, then they find out what’s wrong too late. And then they repeat the same mistakes due to their desire for the “perfect man” (which as we all know statistically they’re unlikely to ever fine one; furthermore even if they did find him, what are the odds that the perfect man wants her?) If women want to find the best man, she needs to first reevaluate herself.
@@leprechaun3677: Folks make lots of excuses for these women and their pathetic behaviour, they say women mature faster than boys but yet they can’t even read a guy well enough to pick the right one? Let’s call it for what it is: women being incredibly salacious and then blaming it on the guy when he finds out she’s a dirty lying thieving scam artist
Women and girls hate to feel judged I guess! What they presume by the nice guys is they feel if they be affirmative they'll be looked upon as easy-to-get or bitch or dishonored and not decent enough girl,so they reject nice boys the way nice boys expect them to reject and say no! Not bcz of how nice they are just they will prevent anything not to get or feel judged!! Girls are not looking necessarily for bad guys just guys who do not judge them and treat them as girls not just anyone haha They demand respect their ways,they are like cats I adore and respect them a lot haha
What if he is pretending to be nice? What if he shows that he cares about his family and makes a girl believe that he will care about her too. But he is an evil person. How to to detect that? I really need your help on this one🙏
@tejasvinitrikhA1121 observe how he treats animals or people with low status that he cant gain anything from (such as a janitor, random old ladies, strangers etc.) if he is cold to people that he cant gain from & is only nice to people that he wants to impress that is a bad sign.
In times past older women would counsel younger women to study a man's character and the younger women would seek the council of their fathers to verify a young mans honor. Now looks, income and hollywood values are prized, all of which lack lasting substance.
Well, when she grows up fatherless, what do you expect. She learned no guidelines from an absent father, so now, as a grown up, she's walking straight into the lions' den, without a manual.
Not only is this a phenomena around relationships with the opposite sex but it also is found in the workplace where percieved confidence has been replaced with buzz words and arrogance. And that is why many companies are unable to grow to their full potential.
I always had feelings for my best friend. Showed it through small, thoughtful gestures, spending time with her when she needed it-- but she never saw me that way. Or at least acted like she didn't. But when I met another girl and started a relationship, found a great paying job after college, and started to progress in my life, she suddenly became much more available and wanting to spend more time.... Funny how it works.
Ele sempre, SEMPRE soube dos seus sentimentos por ela. Porém a partir do momento em que você apareceu com outra mulher, ela viu que tinha perdido a chance de ter você e agora .... ela quer mesmo é acabar com seu relacionamento mostrando que você é um escravo mental e sexual dela, podem que jamais sairá da "Friendzone"
@@litjellyfish really? Nice guys & good guys usually get lumped into the same category, unattractive. It's why many of the good guys I know became crap guys, much more attractive to women
@@1candlepowerimprovanime to reword what the other guy said, good guys are competent and independent and respectable. Nice guys depend on validation from women and are entitled and demonstrate no leadership or ownership of their situation. They just think that acting nice or friendly alone makes them worthy of getting with any woman they want and throw a tantrum when they don’t. That’s incompetence in the field of both social behavior and leadership
@@TheIcecreamtaco I can see why nice guys are unattractive then. Why then do women perceive good guys as nice guys. With me, often the initial perception is bad boy, but sooner or later they realize I'm a good guy (sometimes referred to as great) and the relationship falls apart. Perhaps it's bc they want the bad boy & not the bad good guy. But that doesn't explain the other good guys I've known, who turned POS to successfully attract women. If this is truly your perception, you may be a rarity unfortunately. Hats off to you respectfully
It always comes down to balance. Be agreeable to things that don’t matter, be confident in the things that do matter and don’t back down, but approach difficult topics with grace and love
Over-analysing in my opinion. Many women are viscerally attracted to criminal men. Period. I lived with a girl a few years back, and she really opened my eyes to how bad it can get. She asked me about the local dealer, and i advised her to stay with her boyfriend (who was a decent guy, but by no means a simp). I told her what i knew about the dealer, that he was in & out of prison, and that he preyed sexually on many women in the local neighborhood that were cash-poor and addicted to drugs. Product in exchange for sex. Not far short of SAssault, imo. 30 seconds later she was giddy as a schoolgirl, never seen a bigger smile as she told me all about how hot he was, and how she'd had enough of her boyfriend. Really opened my eyes up about what is attractive to women on a visceral level. When society isnt watching.
Such a pretty lady. That being said, as a FTS father of five boys, someone who has always been deeply, objectively introspective, and fully self-aware, I have always seen everything Jordan Peterson says as wise and enlightning, but also common sense for the thinking man.
Young women are looking for power of success in developing an "interaction and exchange" relationship - they are naive as to how the development is LIKELY to go until they are no longer naive with these mutually exploitive, narcissistic and psychopathic relationships. A girl is generally practiced at disguising her malevolence and has a easier NATURE of it.
My ex chose that, had 2 children, then experienced DV, restraining orders and he was eventually fired from the same place I have worked for 26 years and her 16. She still smiles at me like I'm supposed to nod and say "Hey, what's up girl?"
I hold no judgment for what people find attractive. We like what we like. What gets me is when people get what they asked for, complain about it, wash rinse, and repeat.
Well they think they want one thing bc of societal programming, idealization, etc but lack the self awareness to realize they actually desire something else which is where the complaints come in
In defense of the “friend zone” being mislabeled as a failure: If you are friend zoned, that girl was not the one you are meant to be with; simple as that. The best, most passionate, longest lasting, REAL relationships begin as friends; for that is the foundational block of trusting energy upon which deeper connections are built.
Yeah, it used to start with a friendship... when you were both 16 and virgin. But since it didn't made her wet back then, she choose the bad boys and comes back to you after 10 years. Sorry i'm not interested with a doormat.
Being friends is being friends. Being friendzoned is being used by a person who knows about your feelings and doesn't feel the same, but doesn't wanna lose the special warmth and comfort that you give exclusively to them at the same time There is an abyss-size difference between "friends who developed feelings for each other" and "a comfortable guy/girl who confessed to me" That's all
@@MrZythFx They will indeed and boy oh boy do they CRY when that time has come. And in a lof of cases these days it has a bad end And you know what? I don't even care! 🙄🙄
@@thedutchfisherman7078 Soul crushing regret at realizing you've made nothing but mistakes in decades of your life and wasted your best years chasing worthless men until the good ones don't want you anymore can certainly lead to some tears.
@@VoiceOvaGuy dont forget how they made themselves reta**ed to end up being worthless now to even a god, and not just worthless but silence her immediately and get her tf out of here type sht .. theyre not human anymore i hope they enjoy downwards ofc they do look what they do, i just cant believe this world ended up so dark...
This "not caring what other people think" is way overstated. Humans are social creatures and are naturally dependent on the tacit or implicit acceptance of other people.
Not true. Men that don't want me turn me off. I like attention and feeling special and the more he shows me that he cares and not let 2 weeks pass before calling me makes me like him even more. These are crazy women who grew up without fathers who like to chase men to win their fathers love.
That means the only thing she can do is be a free maid who also brings in some money while I look for a woman I do want. I'll find a way to explain to her why there's a maid in the house who is always mad at her.
There's a difference between holding to your beliefs and just not caring about the world around you. That's what a lot of people seem to miss nowadays.
Also it's not younger women because they are young, it's just women that aren't smart or take more risks in life (which younger women are more likely to be) who choose narcissistic men.
@@stevecooper7883 Young people in general are less experienced and thus more gullible. Ever seen boys flocking to meet a girl that looks nice, but has a nasty character?
What if your belief is you don't care about the world. You are at best mildly curios how certain things will turn out. Mainly to know if you are living in the times that will be written down in the history books or in the lines that are not written. Being curious how history will look upon the times. Nothing more, you don't care when you return to the same existence you had before you were born. You don't care how bad things get. At best you are curios and would like to get to skip to the last page of the book.
He talks a lot of nonsense. Women know exactly what they're doing when they pick a man with bad character. He's merely taking away responsibility for women's bad choices, which is simp behavior. He always does this when it comes to women.
I've just stopped caring what women think-period. I'm nice, generous and the majority I've shown this to have not deserved it. Lesson learned. I'm actually quite happy on my own. Relationships and people are overrated.
As long as it comes from a place of geniuen feeling and not bitterness congrats. Relationship does seem like they are more trouble than they are worth. People is different story. I need my alone time and I'm very selective. But when I do find good people my loyalty gives you a lot of bandwidth to mess up.
Agreed. I’m 77 and can honestly say I haven’t seen that many decent relationships. The ones I have seen I’m impressed by but ultimately I’m happy to be on my own with a few good friends.
@@litjellyfishnot all biology at all....TONS of decent men and genetics get passed on and have since the dawn of time. Not every single baby produced grows up a degenerate or some fake "alpha."
I'm 35. Most of my life I've been rejected by the girls I liked and always attracted women who were older than me. I believe it reflects perfectly what was said in the video 😄
Literally me, when I was young. I didn’t understand that people would do bad things just because they could. They don’t have to dislike you and you don’t need to do anything bad to them first. I had to learn some people are evil just because they can be and it is often masked with charm.
So true woman love confidence. I am married and would NEVER cheat on my wife. I have noticed that now that i just dont care when i talk to other women that they find me much more appealing. Boys heres a lesson, dont be a simp.
If you love your gf or wife be a simp all you want. The thing you don't want to be is desperate. And you can't fake not caring. You have to actually not care about how the interaction is going beyond are you amusing yourself. Part of amusing yourself is seeing if they have a good time as well but if they feel that's your focus you will lose. You need to feel that it's okay if you go home alone. They see you go home having fun. You see them again and you behave like before. Now they know it's not an act and you will get allowance with word play that in normal circumstances for a first impression you'd never be able to say. Because now they are expecting to go home with you. If you can joke about your own insecurity even better. You've brought it up, and when it'd time for the real deal. They remember you being honest even though you made it funny. And it makes them act considerate in the moment where you normally might feel a bit uncomfortable since this is virtually a stranger.
@@dcworld4349+ all this and not taking yourself too seriously. Never come off as needy or overbearing. Always have a sense of humor about yourself. Women love funny men, and if you can kind of lightly include them without being a jerk, even better. But, that takes time and experience as there's a finesse that comes with it.
@@pi55bier Nothing wrong in what you said, but not every man knows how to be funny. They might come up with the occasional zinger but its not their natural state. I learned to be extroverted without it being fake when I was still in the game. But by nature I'm introverted and don't mind things being quiet. Some of the best times is when you can be around someone without words being shared and you both feel perfectly at ease with each other. No awkward silence, just enjoying the company of being. The most important thing you said is not taking yourself too seriously. If you can't find a way to become funny that is okay, you can replace that with things you are passionate about instead. If you can be funny do that, its more effective on a larger scale. But passion can take you far too despite having limits, if you know how to read their interest in what you are talking about before you show how passionate you are about it.
@atlantean1209 Men are their hobbies. For example, Some men like to restore cars, old machinery, ect. Women on the other hand, love to try to make worthless men good. In the rare chance they succeed, they get bored with him real quick. It's time to get rid of that project and start a new one. Men do it with objects, women do it with men.
I was meeting one girl my age (23) and initially everything was fine because she was physically very attracted to me. She even grabbed me and kissed me passionately after 2nd date. However, after a few more dates her interest faded a lot when she realized I was too calm and good. She even told me she'd like me to swear, to behave like a typical bad guy (even though she wasn't behaving like that herself - I'd say I thought we both were similar in character). It obviously didn't work out since I wouldn't do something against my nature. Eh, women... I've been alone for 9 years now and I've never been happier :) I don't need all that bs and chaos in my life.
Because she thought you aren't competent enough. She thought you were weak. You should learn from it and next time you'll be better. But don't be an incel.
@matyasmarkkovacs8336 I'm a volcel. It's a huge difference. The vast majority of modern women aren't worth any effort. There might be some hidden gems here and there but I really like being alone. It's so nice to be free. I'm not going to chase after women because the society and family tell me it's the "right" way.
@@MrAnonik Well, it's your business, but just because you had a relationship which didn't went very well, you shouldn't give up and think that all (or most) women are the same.
@@matyasmarkkovacs8336 Please, I genuinely want to ask how you say something is someone's business, but you still go ahead to provide unsolicited advice about their business?
I got burned when I was 20 by my gf of 5 years. She was Christian and the sweetest girl you'd meet, we talked about getting married. She left me (cheated probably) for an older guy at her work who was everything she claimed she hated in men (toxic bad boy traits). At that point I stopped being nice to women and interestingly my love life improved 😂
There was this girl I knew who I was attracted to but apparently being nice and giving her care and attention was apparently the wrong move. I was friendzoned. Then I was told by her friend that she used to chase a guy who never cared about her and she literally begged him to be in a relationship with her and got rejected. I will never understand this. I have been rejected multiple times but I never begged a girl to be in a relationship with me after she told me she doesn't see me that way. Any time I got rejected, I moved on, and we either went our separite ways or remained honest friends.
It's not confidence. Well said. Additionally, I think the girls who go after guys who are losers mentally and emotionally who treat them with indifference is because that's what they got from their father who felt that keeping the lights on was enough and offered her very little (if anything) else relationally.
Not really , it's because attractive women are worshipped by most guys, put on a pedestal, guys go out of their way to please them give them whatever they want, when they run across a guy that doesn't give a shit one way or another and doesn't try to please them, it's so predictable,it peaks their interest, they go for the guy that's acting different.
@@alphayungwes5595 Girls who have a great example of a man in their father will only tolerate that kind of honorable man he is because that's what they are used to. You have only addressed the sympton wheras I told you the cause which means you did not disprove what I wrote, you supported it.
@@Peter-sl6zn Lots of women want money and status and will date jerks who have those things even though they are jerks. Lots of men want to sleep with pretty women and will date 304s if they are pretty. It's not rocket science, dude.
@@Peter-sl6znIt's not hard to understand. Depending on the character of the men, a lot of people will go for an attractive woman even if she's a little toxic, disrespectful, dresses provocatively for no reason or because she knows the reaction it gets. The laundry list of red flags exists that men put up with because she may be pretty.
It happens to women in their mod-40's, too. I was 51 before I finally figured it all out. Met a lady a few weeks ago. It happened to her at the age of 77. She had been happily married her entire life until widowed at 71. Her and her hubby had known this man for 15 years! She had no clue...
I'm 75. I wasn't fooled but unable to get out from under his control. Something in him repelled me. As a Catholic, I received sacraments. One of which was Confirmation, which gives you the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I heard a priest say, confirmed Catholics have the ability to exorcise demons. My hacker just said Ok. Using the black space above keyboard. Not normal spell checker. He overrides that.
Because of his actions and wearing me down through things he set up years ago, if someone shows up to rescue me, I'm sidelined. I lose continually by what he's set up.
I'm sorry to hear this, there are a whole group of men that don't know the harm they are doing because we struggle with our own shit everyday and lack the tools to express to our wife EXACTLY what we are thinking and lead the emotional rollercoaster to a stop...In some cases this lack of constrctive communication leaves both partners feeling avoidant and walking on eggshells, yet both are dying for connection. It's a Godly husbands job to lead his wife to her peace and support her soul.
My wife did, but I was/am also confident and assertive, I don’t doubt myself in moments where leadership is needed or conflict needs resolving. Reflection is the proper time for self judgement.
THE SIGMA, NO NONSENSE FKNG BAD ASS WITHOUT SAYING A DAMN THING DOING WHAT HE NEEDS TO WHETHER PEOPLE AGREE OR DISAGREE HE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT THE MOST STRONGEST MEN ALIVE THE SCORPIO/SIGMA MALE
@@abracadabra6324 yes and if you study the scorpio/sigma males they have the sheer will to get IT!!! done that said there's few males in the world left now that have this WILL!! but the one's I've mentioned do without a shadow of a doubt
It's just a sign of immaturity. I always liked the nice guys and disliked the mean ones. I've always just been an old soul. I knew some things before my time. 😅
He's making a distinction between the confidence that comes from being strong and centered and the confidence that comes from being a narcissistic sociopath. Young women can't tell the difference, but among young men, the latter is far more common.
He only sees part of the picture. The reason these bad behaviors get overlooked as well is the guys themselves not caring is because of looks allowing them to behave like that
100%. Same with humor. When I was younger, I thought my humor was a game changer in my game. It turned out that women were laughing at my jokes (most of the time not funny) because I was good looking.
I think it's also cultural too. I spent some time in China and women would choose the kind man there more often. They'd also be specifically looking for a husband and uninterested in "dating". But that was 20 years ago, things most certainly have changed to some degree.
He's Not Wrong, but this will Never Change. Women, especially Young Women will always initially be drawn to shameless, narcissistic, carefree, even loud & brash men. Then after they get burned by said men, then they'll start looking with a discerning eye for character. It's a script in society that will apparently never change. What's Real almost never outshines what's Flashy.
I thought this was the case too but I've come to realization ALL ages of women largely still are the same. My ex was 34 years old with 2 kids(from men that left after impregnation) and STILL falls for the dirt bag type. Stayed with me, a decent, hard working guy for a year and a half but simply could not stomach the idea of decency and left me for some loser basically OVERNIGHT without explanation or guilt! Some rare cases may learn and I believe a lot of that is $ related, but MOST WANT or always will RETURN to a bad, loser, sick type of man over a good man!
@@mattyo5022 Only an emotionally unhealthy woman would be in a toxic relationship. A healthy woman (or man) would get out of a toxic relationship. Healthy people don’t go for unhealthy ones. JS.
@Kyle-2020 i have some fuckboy energy ppl say so older women tend to be attracted to me cuz I'm also obviously very educated and well spoken. When they realize I'm not actually a fuckboy they lose interest very fast. Ironically the ones so unhinged that I lose interest in them before they even get to know a few things about me they get obsessed and chase. Its actually sick.
@@ethosterros9430Yeah i think the veil of manipulation is starting to fall quickly on women of every age and culture and their biological nature is becoming clearer and clearer
Fun fact: the reason why younger women attracted to criminals is because most of them believe that they can tame them. This Counsiou/subconscious believe is also visible in many popular Manuwa/manhwa which is mostly read by teenagers. And as a female i kinda think this way😅
@@Peter-sl6zn bruh 😑 ....... Just go to the strip club a couple times and get the girl you find the hottest to give you a lap dance and talk to her, you'll (probably) become less awkward around girls you like thereafter. *Disclaimer: results may vary
Newly divorced women coming out of long marriages are also high risk for getting into a relationship with a psychopath or narcissist. I was married for over 20 years and the first 2 people I dated were both likely a narcissist and a psychopath. Luckily, I ended it and ended up meeting my wonderful husband - but not until I spent a few years processing all the abuse from my divorce and healing from the trauma of those relationships. Once I was in a much healthier place, I was ready to meet someone who was healthy- and it’s been the healthiest relationship I’ve ever had. I am so grateful for him and what we have.
Woman want connection and empathy gottmans got it close....when we talk to women, us men have to be able to look at their soul, woman will ALWAYS try to find a reason to leave the man they are with eventually, don't give them one....all you have to do is stand firm in Christ and she will be a bird who always wants to land on ur shoulder.
We’re different. Men lead and will give their life for others. Been that way for generations. Together men and women that work together are unstoppable.
Basically we’re all cooked… If young women are more attracted to toxic men in their youth during their child bearing years. Possibly figuring it out when they’ve hit the proverbial wall. Then what?
We are indeed, cooked. Women are no longer getting solid advice from her parents, but social media women who are shallow. By the time she finds you attractive, she's already got two kids who you can be sure will never respect you. Women at their core seem to be narcissistic, with no care for the greater good of their civilization. Which is possibly why they weren't allowed authority within polite society. Or voting rights. Until now..
Something I always wanted to explain to my female relatives or old friends... and something I wanted to say to women that I turned down because I wasn't confident enough (in my own standards) that I can pull through our relationship without having bs reactions from my immature and impulsive parts... but thanks to.God we have Jordan Peterson who is always ON POINT!
My parents taught me to be polite with people. I was polite and nice with everyone, including with young women (Also I was poor). But it did not work. I was rejected. That was many years ago. Today, I can date women, but at my age I don't have to date soccer moms. I'm happy to be a single man.
@@Peter-sl6zn I'm 60. If you meet someone don't take a relationship seriously. Treat her like your good friend. If you have feeling for her and you want a serous / long term relationship, be careful because women (as well as man) always change their mind. Try to be a leader and test her, see if she is supportive in difficult situations. If she is not supportive, she is not for you.
@@kingdomofgeorgia1751 thanks for sharing your insights! I'll definitely keep that advice in mind as I go forward. It's helpful to hear different perspective, I'll keep working on myself and looking for someone who values genuine support and values a real connections too. It's good to hear from someone with more experience 😊. Wishing you all the best!"
@@Peter-sl6znjust focus on your personal growth and career, and if there is a girl who is genuinely interested in you then reciprocate it , most probably you both will have a bright future ahead
@@non_ideological_transexual7414 Is it funny? Here let me amuse you with even funnier nonsense: "I discovered I was transphobic around the age of H. Back in those days, badoobee badadoodoo wasn't badadoodoo at all. My parents thought that Willy Wonka was gonna be re-elected, but the Oompa Loompas left the building. It was around that time I discovered J. K. Rowling and the Goblet of Phoenix. From that point, everything changed. West Ham tasted like East Ham and I don't even like fish. Some people would shit and eat because the LGBT said so and by the time the Q brought the I, A+ was shitting and eating perpetually all over twitter ranch. God thought it was funny because he invented covid to make things better. That's how I came to terms identifying as I need the darkness, someone please cut the lights."
@@markpena1412lmao a pos father who’s a lunatic like the video mentions is going to do worse damage than having no father. Now she’s going to grow up to find a man just like him
Women MUST know themselves, knowing who we are and loving ourself, putting ourself and needs first, gives women the confidence needed to look and be more selective of the right man. A relationship with a man because we want to, NOT because we need to, makes a big difference. ❤
Also, many individuals conflate arrogance with intelligence and intellectualism too. It’s not exclusive to just women, but this conversation here applies to young women.
@ Haha, agreed! I see what you did there. That amount of people is such a soberingly high amount, sometimes all we can do is laugh it off in the meantime between now and November 5th. All we can do is make sure we get the vote out by that date. 💙
I know it's a lot of younger women are interested in older guys because they're not treated right by the younger guys. But as I've told them before if I wanted to have another kid my wife and I would just have one.
Self-centeredness mimics self-confidence and most women don't learn to differentiate the two until they've been fooled by it at least once. Sometimes a bit more than once... But the attraction is to a man who appears to have agency over himself and the space he controls. As a metaphor, most women are more attracted to a guy who is driving the car than the one riding shotgun. But to know whether hes a good man or not, you need to figure out where he's driving to.
Jordan Peterson is very right, I've experienced it first hand, being nice to girls or young women makes you unattractive, but then again, trying to be bad will make them gossip about how I've fallen off, how I'm an undisclosed and arrogant guy. It's best just stop putting in the effort in trying to look good, because you won't end up finding the right solemate. Just be somewhere in the middle, towards being nice, but not too nice, it drained me out my energy until I learned that. Now I'm not even looking for a girl/woman, some will just stumble upon me thinking that I'm like a ,,cool" guy. Never the less, I don't despise girls, I've progressed in my tactic. Anyways, have a nice day or night.
I'm competent and secure. I don’t care what other people think. I'm not nice, but I'm kind. I'm not mean, I'm not a bully. I'm not a monster. And I deeply care for people.
@americantyrant98 and a lying hypocritical charlatan. His crying about men who are suffering and haven't ever received a kind word wouldn't fall on flat ears if he didn't constantly shit on men in other interviews for being useless losers. He is all of the problems he's ever spoken of. He hasn't even made his own bed.
I've found that in my experience... As long as a guy shows interest in a girl, continually betters himself physically(goes to the gym, exercises, goes travel/hiking), socially(expands his social networking through going out and doing things or taking short vacations or getaways) and mentally(Furthering his education) as well as sets goals... They can typically get any girl they want at any time... It's the guys who are nice, don't actively try and socialize and show 0 ambition to make their lives better that girls shy away from. They can smell that shit a mile away. If they see you don't or aren't trying to better your life, they're gonna look right through you or see you as a guy friend and nothing more.
The problem is when they are ready, they go for the nice guy then, but nice guys also want to enjoy the freak daddy issue girl, and not to end-up with the vanilla side, so they don't match, that's why we see so many single people nowadays.
Small f feminist talking to a large F feminist Very funny and as if it changes much with age. Meanwhile women watch with fascination shows about the life of serial killers and write to serial killers. Prisons have started to ban female guards in male prisons . Such a complete picture here about what is happening 😂😂😂.
Thank you for saying who is the true masculine verses the false masculine. It took me years to get my oldest daughter to understand that. I had to get her to see that it takes masculinity to be nice, kind, considerate, and compassionate. You have to put your ego aside to truely love someone. It is very easy to be an asshole and no masculinity is needed to be an asshole, to act hard and exibiting false confidence . It takes a masculine man to truely love a woman. It takes nothing to use her, minipulate her and cause her life long trauma. It really takes no feelings at all to do that to a woman. Yet that is what they fall for. My daughter stopped her attraction for the false masculine man and chose the the true masculine man who treats her with love, compassion and respect.
Inmature women see it that way, mature women see it as "nice guy is stable, bastad is unstable", not all women get to mature to understand the difference between boring and stable and the difference between exciting and sexy and unstable.
The problem is a woman's pride. Pride in a woman is like alcohol in a man. The more prideful a woman is, the more upside down and backwards she sees things; what should be considered appealing is unappealing and vice versa. In the same way that an intoxicated man would hook up with a woman that he never would have if he were sober, the more pride a woman has, the more attracted she is to garbage. As time goes on and life cracks women over the head with its proverbial bricks over the years, pride dissipates and they begin to 'sober up'. The men they would have laughed out of a bar at 21 are the men they wish they could have been with when they reach 31 (or 41...).
@@johnkrneta5627 My personal theory is that as men get older they become wiser through life experience while women lose pride over time and gain clarity; the manner in which men and women 'change for the better' over time is different as it is gender specific - life's hardships (generally) make better people as they build a man up while knocking women down lol.
@@brianm5563 I have to say that your theory makes sense to me. Thanks To the feminist movement our whole society is afraid to consider how the two genders differ. Your theory also makes sense because a woman hits her height in beauty at about age 20, but a man hits his height in earning power, usually in his 50s.
@@johnkrneta5627 Yep - and one more item.... I also think the way people gain personal value ('self esteem') is gender specific; men are born with zero value and gain it over time through what they produce/contribute - what they bring to the table. His value comes from what he gives, not what he has. Women are born inherently and immensely valuable and maintain it through humility/modesty/chastity. By being proud and promiscuous, a woman destroys where she gets her value (like Samson getting his hair cut, if you know the reference..) By attempting to erase the line between genders and promoting the idea that there are no differences, the ability to understand how to be satisfied in life is made into an unknowable mystery.. Hence the American drug epidemic along with the newly recognized issue of mental health.
Yes! I've been saying it for decades. Women mistake arrogance for confidence. Other guys can spot a blowhard a mile away. But a lot of women fall for the big ego, even when he's got no real accomplishments to back up the attitude.
Big ego is like those colourful feathers those birds use like when they mate. It kinda works in that sense.
@@1234jokerboya peacock is as a peacock does
They have to find out the hard way. The thing is that women are never wrong so they never learn the lesson and will keep chasing the wolf until they’re too old to catch his eye.
Karma is real.
@@RandomUser25122woman that are arrogant and immature? Yes they are! (And have a lot of them out there)
Then he'll die in battle and marry beta and go shopping.
The agreeable guy lives in the friend-zone.
And is almost always a male-feminist leftist
If you want her and she isn't interested, you move on. To stay is to put yourself in the friendzone. I.e. The only friendzone is the one you make for yourself.
That's ok, just be yourself and see what happens
Women are weird. Don't look for them and they'd get interested. I just stay away from mind games all together.
Im only agreeable when I'm not into the woman so she gets the message. Sometimes they can't handle rejection and resort to entitlement and anger. So I use a different method to let them know aye if I liked u I would disagree with opinions that dont add up to mine.
Many women divide between not boring and boring guys instead of kind versus unkind guys. Shallowess at its best.
Well, 'not boring' as in: He puts her on an emotional rollercoaster by e.g. rejecting her. This creates a short-circuit in the woman's brain that causes her to find him much more attractive than before the rejection, the higher attractiveness being a proxy for 'high value'.
The following seems like a stretch, but bear with me: I don't have the link at the moment, but I saw a video in which a woman reported that she saw the physical appearance of an average looking, bald guy _visually_ changing to that of a very attractive guy whose bald head positively complemented his overall appearance the moment she heard that he was a highly successful and wealthy man - It seems to be akin to 'morphing' on psychedelics!!
@@gewinnstesounds like manipulation
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I think most men are past caring whether women like them or not. I'm nice, deal with it or go away.
It's liberating af
@@howtoactuallyinvest It really is, isn't it?
Lol great comment. It's great being nice don't ever be anything else.
@@alandfaraway552I don’t see why anyone should want to prioritise being an asshole in the one life they have over being a decent and honest person across the board hey, if someone is being a jerk to you out of the blue then let your bad side have a little time in the sun, otherwise be kind to the world around you, because you’d be surprised how far a little compassion goes in a world so lacking of selfless kindness.
No way are most men beyond that. The one thing that will ALWAYS make them care and lure them in... pus*y
you can see in her body language she has done this very thing
That's what I thought...
Mikhaela was clearly fascinated by Andrew Tate even though she denies all the rumors about their hook up in Romania.
Frankly, I would not think more or less of her if they did hook up (assuming she wasn't married or lying about it etc).
@@whitesamurai she got a bunch of plastic surgery. She is shallow as they come. And she left her husband. She is a hypocrite
@@whitesamuraiI guess men will no longer take her advice seriously though if it were proven true.. Well, those men. who did, as most men refuse dating advice from women overall "if you want to learn to catch fish, ask not the fish itself, ask the fisherman".
That's why mikaela will not confirm the rumor if it were true
Jordan Peterson is basically the wise father that most never had but really needs.
He's a good guy, but what he's saying here is poppycock. Women know exactly what they're doing when they choose bad men. He's trying to make women innocent angels who are gullible and deceived. No personal accountability on their part. This is simping behavior. Gynocentric to the core. Does he give the same amount of grace to men for their dumb decisions?
Women are good, Great, INCREDIBLE at picking THE WORST guy in the room
You mean like how she picked Andrew Tate? 🤣
I think the reality is that there’s more men willing to be malevolent than there are men who are confident and charismatic.
So women mistaken that malevolence for the latter. Whereas there may be 1 of 10 guys in that room that are actually confident, charismatic, but not malevolent.
So it isn’t that they’re the best at picking the worst; it’s just that there are a lot of people willing to be bad to get something.
Women want it all, then they find out what’s wrong too late. And then they repeat the same mistakes due to their desire for the “perfect man” (which as we all know statistically they’re unlikely to ever fine one; furthermore even if they did find him, what are the odds that the perfect man wants her?)
If women want to find the best man, she needs to first reevaluate herself.
And she barks about how her intuition is never wrong
@@leprechaun3677:
Folks make lots of excuses for these women and their pathetic behaviour, they say women mature faster than boys but yet they can’t even read a guy well enough to pick the right one? Let’s call it for what it is: women being incredibly salacious and then blaming it on the guy when he finds out she’s a dirty lying thieving scam artist
@ HAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAA
Women never miss an opportunity to say "no" to the nice guy. That's for sure.
That’s because a lot of these “nice guys” are actually pieces of shit. Incels full of rage when they get turned down
Their usual go to. Sorry I have a BF. I say That's fine, your loss.
The nice guy must find nice women that looks good. Closed case 😅
Or sorry I'm lesbian XD
Women and girls hate to feel judged I guess!
What they presume by the nice guys is they feel if they be affirmative they'll be looked upon as easy-to-get or bitch or dishonored and not decent enough girl,so they reject nice boys the way nice boys expect them to reject and say no!
Not bcz of how nice they are just they will prevent anything not to get or feel judged!!
Girls are not looking necessarily for bad guys just guys who do not judge them and treat them as girls not just anyone haha
They demand respect their ways,they are like cats I adore and respect them a lot haha
It's like an explanation of the "bad boy" appearance girls/women like, which isn't independence, confidence, and strength, but rather narcissism.
Lots of women like nice guys, but only after they get old, plump & ignored by badboys
Or abused by them.
Some learn , some never do.
Look at all those women giving Wade Wilson money.
Some of them are in their 40’s and 50’s.
@@2percenter23 You forgot Jeremy Meeks.
@@siddg1463 true
What if he is pretending to be nice? What if he shows that he cares about his family and makes a girl believe that he will care about her too. But he is an evil person. How to to detect that?
I really need your help on this one🙏
@tejasvinitrikhA1121 observe how he treats animals or people with low status that he cant gain anything from (such as a janitor, random old ladies, strangers etc.) if he is cold to people that he cant gain from & is only nice to people that he wants to impress that is a bad sign.
In times past older women would counsel younger women to study a man's character and the younger women would seek the council of their fathers to verify a young mans honor. Now looks, income and hollywood values are prized, all of which lack lasting substance.
💯💯💯💯
@@spartanghost9713your name is apt for your 300 lol
True. Counsel.
Well, when she grows up fatherless, what do you expect. She learned no guidelines from an absent father, so now, as a grown up, she's walking straight into the lions' den, without a manual.
And the lack of fathers in the home have lots to do with it too
Not only is this a phenomena around relationships with the opposite sex but it also is found in the workplace where percieved confidence has been replaced with buzz words and arrogance. And that is why many companies are unable to grow to their full potential.
Agreed. Too many aholes promoted in management positions because they're big mouths are confused with 'leadership skills'.
THAT part
I always had feelings for my best friend. Showed it through small, thoughtful gestures, spending time with her when she needed it-- but she never saw me that way. Or at least acted like she didn't. But when I met another girl and started a relationship, found a great paying job after college, and started to progress in my life, she suddenly became much more available and wanting to spend more time....
Funny how it works.
Ele sempre, SEMPRE soube dos seus sentimentos por ela. Porém a partir do momento em que você apareceu com outra mulher, ela viu que tinha perdido a chance de ter você e agora .... ela quer mesmo é acabar com seu relacionamento mostrando que você é um escravo mental e sexual dela, podem que jamais sairá da "Friendzone"
She still doesn't love you, she knows you're giving the attention you gave her to someone else and she is jealous.
Why didn't you just show it by asking her out on a date lol?
Covetousness
She is interested in your status... not you. Cut ties and give your attention to people who will appreciate you.
Confidence without competence = bad guy
Confidence in your competence = good guy
Good guy = not attractive
@@1candlepowerimprovanimegood guy = attractive
Nice guy = not attractive
Big difference
@@litjellyfish really? Nice guys & good guys usually get lumped into the same category, unattractive. It's why many of the good guys I know became crap guys, much more attractive to women
@@1candlepowerimprovanime to reword what the other guy said, good guys are competent and independent and respectable. Nice guys depend on validation from women and are entitled and demonstrate no leadership or ownership of their situation. They just think that acting nice or friendly alone makes them worthy of getting with any woman they want and throw a tantrum when they don’t. That’s incompetence in the field of both social behavior and leadership
@@TheIcecreamtaco I can see why nice guys are unattractive then. Why then do women perceive good guys as nice guys. With me, often the initial perception is bad boy, but sooner or later they realize I'm a good guy (sometimes referred to as great) and the relationship falls apart. Perhaps it's bc they want the bad boy & not the bad good guy. But that doesn't explain the other good guys I've known, who turned POS to successfully attract women. If this is truly your perception, you may be a rarity unfortunately. Hats off to you respectfully
It always comes down to balance. Be agreeable to things that don’t matter, be confident in the things that do matter and don’t back down, but approach difficult topics with grace and love
Over-analysing in my opinion. Many women are viscerally attracted to criminal men. Period. I lived with a girl a few years back, and she really opened my eyes to how bad it can get. She asked me about the local dealer, and i advised her to stay with her boyfriend (who was a decent guy, but by no means a simp). I told her what i knew about the dealer, that he was in & out of prison, and that he preyed sexually on many women in the local neighborhood that were cash-poor and addicted to drugs. Product in exchange for sex. Not far short of SAssault, imo. 30 seconds later she was giddy as a schoolgirl, never seen a bigger smile as she told me all about how hot he was, and how she'd had enough of her boyfriend. Really opened my eyes up about what is attractive to women on a visceral level. When society isnt watching.
Was this a Black woman or White/Asian/Latina ect?
Yeah, most women today aren't fooled like JBP said. Their mistake is thinking they can tame the monster to do their bidding.
@@Kyle-2020all races who are ghetto trash
That woman was a psycho. Only psychos are attracted to bad people or criminals.
@@Kyle-2020 most prolly a white woman.
Abuse finds abused. Women like what they can’t have. Period
What if I’m ugly and abusive?
@ try to be better. I don’t wish bad women on anyone. Be the best version of you that can possibly exist.
Tranquilo campeón 😂
I'd say it's human nature to want what we can't have
@thephenom724 Like the story of the forbidden apple in Adam and Eve.
Such a pretty lady. That being said, as a FTS father of five boys, someone who has always been deeply, objectively introspective, and fully self-aware, I have always seen everything Jordan Peterson says as wise and enlightning, but also common sense for the thinking man.
She's had a lot of work done. You should see old photos of her, another person.
@charlieb9064 Yes, I noticed that. Definitely a very noticeable difference on the nose.
They are not fooled. They knowingly choose psychopaths because they find them exciting.
Young women are looking for power of success in developing an "interaction and exchange" relationship - they are naive as to how the development is LIKELY to go until they are no longer naive with these mutually exploitive, narcissistic and psychopathic relationships. A girl is generally practiced at disguising her malevolence and has a easier NATURE of it.
My ex chose that, had 2 children, then experienced DV, restraining orders and he was eventually fired from the same place I have worked for 26 years and her 16. She still smiles at me like I'm supposed to nod and say "Hey, what's up girl?"
Correct. It's extremely misogynistic to think they don't know what they're doing. Women want excitement and to be led
People usually deserve to be duped because they prefer the lie over the truth
Exactly... Peterson is wrong.
I hold no judgment for what people find attractive. We like what we like. What gets me is when people get what they asked for, complain about it, wash rinse, and repeat.
Rt lol
Lol women on Facebook be like.
Well they think they want one thing bc of societal programming, idealization, etc but lack the self awareness to realize they actually desire something else which is where the complaints come in
In that case it's not what they wanted. It's what they've been made to believe they wanted.
@@badart3204yessir. Disneyfied ideals
In defense of the “friend zone” being mislabeled as a failure:
If you are friend zoned, that girl was not the one you are meant to be with; simple as that. The best, most passionate, longest lasting, REAL relationships begin as friends; for that is the foundational block of trusting energy upon which deeper connections are built.
This is exactly wrong.
Thats how things should work. But they didn't 😂
Yeah, it used to start with a friendship... when you were both 16 and virgin. But since it didn't made her wet back then, she choose the bad boys and comes back to you after 10 years. Sorry i'm not interested with a doormat.
Well that IS encouraging. I guess 🤓
Being friends is being friends. Being friendzoned is being used by a person who knows about your feelings and doesn't feel the same, but doesn't wanna lose the special warmth and comfort that you give exclusively to them at the same time
There is an abyss-size difference between "friends who developed feelings for each other" and "a comfortable guy/girl who confessed to me"
That's all
Woman like being treated bad, good guy oh your too nice, bad boy oh he's what I want. Dont cry later girls...
They will.
@@MrZythFx They will indeed and boy oh boy do they CRY when that time has come. And in a lof of cases these days it has a bad end And you know what? I don't even care! 🙄🙄
@@thedutchfisherman7078 Soul crushing regret at realizing you've made nothing but mistakes in decades of your life and wasted your best years chasing worthless men until the good ones don't want you anymore can certainly lead to some tears.
@@VoiceOvaGuy dont forget how they made themselves reta**ed to end up being worthless now to even a god, and not just worthless but silence her immediately and get her tf out of here type sht .. theyre not human anymore i hope they enjoy downwards ofc they do look what they do, i just cant believe this world ended up so dark...
I can't agree more . 💯@@VoiceOvaGuy
"It's not confident. It's false confidence, it's certainly not competence."
I never knew JP could rap, lol
M.C. JBP got bars 🎤😎
But isn't the ability to nail any Becky in sight a sign of competence. Narc men get her wet easily.
Right ain't say a damned thing 😂
Word salad
This "not caring what other people think" is way overstated. Humans are social creatures and are naturally dependent on the tacit or implicit acceptance of other people.
Not so much in the modern day, especially in the hyper individualistic West
Women want men who don't want them.
Not true. Men that don't want me turn me off. I like attention and feeling special and the more he shows me that he cares and not let 2 weeks pass before calling me makes me like him even more. These are crazy women who grew up without fathers who like to chase men to win their fathers love.
That means the only thing she can do is be a free maid who also brings in some money while I look for a woman I do want. I'll find a way to explain to her why there's a maid in the house who is always mad at her.
I'm really starting to believe this, because it damn sure seems like it.
Unhealthy or ignorant women do. That’s why family assistance in finding and vetting a spouse is beyond crucial!
You speak for all women
There's a difference between holding to your beliefs and just not caring about the world around you. That's what a lot of people seem to miss nowadays.
Also it's not younger women because they are young, it's just women that aren't smart or take more risks in life (which younger women are more likely to be) who choose narcissistic men.
@@stevecooper7883 Young people in general are less experienced and thus more gullible. Ever seen boys flocking to meet a girl that looks nice, but has a nasty character?
What if your belief is you don't care about the world. You are at best mildly curios how certain things will turn out. Mainly to know if you are living in the times that will be written down in the history books or in the lines that are not written. Being curious how history will look upon the times.
Nothing more, you don't care when you return to the same existence you had before you were born. You don't care how bad things get. At best you are curios and would like to get to skip to the last page of the book.
When Jordan speaks then wise people listen. Such a mind as this comes along so infrequently. ❤
He talks a lot of nonsense. Women know exactly what they're doing when they pick a man with bad character. He's merely taking away responsibility for women's bad choices, which is simp behavior. He always does this when it comes to women.
I've just stopped caring what women think-period. I'm nice, generous and the majority I've shown this to have not deserved it. Lesson learned. I'm actually quite happy on my own. Relationships and people are overrated.
As long as it comes from a place of geniuen feeling and not bitterness congrats.
Relationship does seem like they are more trouble than they are worth. People is different story. I need my alone time and I'm very selective. But when I do find good people my loyalty gives you a lot of bandwidth to mess up.
Agreed. I’m 77 and can honestly say I haven’t seen that many decent relationships. The ones I have seen I’m impressed by but ultimately I’m happy to be on my own with a few good friends.
Loserville
@@Crimsonvandal Whatever pal, I guarantee I'm waaaay more happier than you LMAO
@@donaldcummings8407 someone who gives up on dating because they made bad choices with women isn’t happier than anyone.
And that is a brief description of the fall of society
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It’s been like this forever. It’s based on biology
@@litjellyfishnot all biology at all....TONS of decent men and genetics get passed on and have since the dawn of time. Not every single baby produced grows up a degenerate or some fake "alpha."
Men and women have both changed drastically due to the filthy society that we live in driven by fkng social media
@@litjellyfishYeah but we had a few things that kept it in check back then.
Peace is my greatest accomplishment 💯
I gave up caring what women want years ago.
Decided to go to gay?
@@sh0cktim3 What strange question to ask, are you high right now?
@@sh0cktim3hahaha nice one
@@sh0cktim3 I still don't know where you came up with gay? I said I don't care what they want, I didn't say I gave up women.
You're right!Don't spend your time about meaningless things.The woman who wants you will look for you
We need to stop putting them on a pedestal.
Putting them "in" a pedestal might be better than "on" one.
@ thank you spellcheck
WRONG! WOMEN need to stop putting MEN on a pedestal
I'm 35. Most of my life I've been rejected by the girls I liked and always attracted women who were older than me. I believe it reflects perfectly what was said in the video 😄
woooow exactly like me man.
wtf? only now (at 34yrs) i am seeing this
Literally me, when I was young. I didn’t understand that people would do bad things just because they could. They don’t have to dislike you and you don’t need to do anything bad to them first. I had to learn some people are evil just because they can be and it is often masked with charm.
True
Who hurt you? 😂
You must have grown up in a bad neighborhood
@@Rico401Prov You find someone being hurt amusing? You appear to be exactly the type of prick they are talking about.
@@Rico401Prov you're weak right now. please grow for the sake of yourself and the rest of humanity : )
So true woman love confidence. I am married and would NEVER cheat on my wife. I have noticed that now that i just dont care when i talk to other women that they find me much more appealing. Boys heres a lesson, dont be a simp.
If you love your gf or wife be a simp all you want. The thing you don't want to be is desperate.
And you can't fake not caring. You have to actually not care about how the interaction is going beyond are you amusing yourself. Part of amusing yourself is seeing if they have a good time as well but if they feel that's your focus you will lose.
You need to feel that it's okay if you go home alone. They see you go home having fun. You see them again and you behave like before. Now they know it's not an act and you will get allowance with word play that in normal circumstances for a first impression you'd never be able to say. Because now they are expecting to go home with you. If you can joke about your own insecurity even better. You've brought it up, and when it'd time for the real deal. They remember you being honest even though you made it funny. And it makes them act considerate in the moment where you normally might feel a bit uncomfortable since this is virtually a stranger.
It’s not confidence , it’s narcissistic grandiosity.
@@dcworld4349+ all this and not taking yourself too seriously. Never come off as needy or overbearing. Always have a sense of humor about yourself. Women love funny men, and if you can kind of lightly include them without being a jerk, even better. But, that takes time and experience as there's a finesse that comes with it.
@@pi55bier Nothing wrong in what you said, but not every man knows how to be funny. They might come up with the occasional zinger but its not their natural state.
I learned to be extroverted without it being fake when I was still in the game. But by nature I'm introverted and don't mind things being quiet. Some of the best times is when you can be around someone without words being shared and you both feel perfectly at ease with each other. No awkward silence, just enjoying the company of being.
The most important thing you said is not taking yourself too seriously. If you can't find a way to become funny that is okay, you can replace that with things you are passionate about instead. If you can be funny do that, its more effective on a larger scale. But passion can take you far too despite having limits, if you know how to read their interest in what you are talking about before you show how passionate you are about it.
Lol married guy calling other men simps
Confident n competent...very important
They just crave chaos, plain and simple. If you can't supply the chaos,they are going to get bored.
Some women yes
very true from what I have seen in life. They will take the guy who provides almost constant drama over the good , solid normal guy almost every time.
And then women say aren't there any nice guys out there?
@@cdog2331 what they need are some hobbies. Otherwise they channel it into drama and mind games. So annoying.
@atlantean1209 Men are their hobbies. For example, Some men like to restore cars, old machinery, ect. Women on the other hand, love to try to make worthless men good. In the rare chance they succeed, they get bored with him real quick. It's time to get rid of that project and start a new one. Men do it with objects, women do it with men.
I was meeting one girl my age (23) and initially everything was fine because she was physically very attracted to me. She even grabbed me and kissed me passionately after 2nd date. However, after a few more dates her interest faded a lot when she realized I was too calm and good. She even told me she'd like me to swear, to behave like a typical bad guy (even though she wasn't behaving like that herself - I'd say I thought we both were similar in character). It obviously didn't work out since I wouldn't do something against my nature. Eh, women... I've been alone for 9 years now and I've never been happier :) I don't need all that bs and chaos in my life.
Because she thought you aren't competent enough. She thought you were weak.
You should learn from it and next time you'll be better.
But don't be an incel.
@matyasmarkkovacs8336 I'm a volcel. It's a huge difference. The vast majority of modern women aren't worth any effort. There might be some hidden gems here and there but I really like being alone. It's so nice to be free. I'm not going to chase after women because the society and family tell me it's the "right" way.
@@MrAnonik Well, it's your business, but just because you had a relationship which didn't went very well, you shouldn't give up and think that all (or most) women are the same.
@@matyasmarkkovacs8336 Please, I genuinely want to ask how you say something is someone's business, but you still go ahead to provide unsolicited advice about their business?
I got burned when I was 20 by my gf of 5 years. She was Christian and the sweetest girl you'd meet, we talked about getting married. She left me (cheated probably) for an older guy at her work who was everything she claimed she hated in men (toxic bad boy traits). At that point I stopped being nice to women and interestingly my love life improved 😂
There was this girl I knew who I was attracted to but apparently being nice and giving her care and attention was apparently the wrong move. I was friendzoned. Then I was told by her friend that she used to chase a guy who never cared about her and she literally begged him to be in a relationship with her and got rejected. I will never understand this. I have been rejected multiple times but I never begged a girl to be in a relationship with me after she told me she doesn't see me that way. Any time I got rejected, I moved on, and we either went our separite ways or remained honest friends.
It's not confidence. Well said. Additionally, I think the girls who go after guys who are losers mentally and emotionally who treat them with indifference is because that's what they got from their father who felt that keeping the lights on was enough and offered her very little (if anything) else relationally.
Good point
Not really , it's because attractive women are worshipped by most guys, put on a pedestal, guys go out of their way to please them give them whatever they want, when they run across a guy that doesn't give a shit one way or another and doesn't try to please them, it's so predictable,it peaks their interest, they go for the guy that's acting different.
@@alphayungwes5595 Girls who have a great example of a man in their father will only tolerate that kind of honorable man he is because that's what they are used to.
You have only addressed the sympton wheras I told you the cause which means you did not disprove what I wrote, you supported it.
Good point never thought of that. Nothing worse than a "I put a roof over your head" parent, its like yeah that's your job buddy
Perfectly said many are eager for proper daddy figure, also why i prefer dating younger in their peak best for life enjoyment
I was not expecting Dr Peterson to drop an F bomb 😂
He's a Canadian, not a Puritan Yankee.
Yh he does occasionally
Me too! 🙃
This gentleman explains the dynamic PERFECTLY!
This applies to young men as well. They want the prettiest girl and will ignore all sorts of red flags.
Explain how ?
@@Peter-sl6zn Lots of women want money and status and will date jerks who have those things even though they are jerks. Lots of men want to sleep with pretty women and will date 304s if they are pretty. It's not rocket science, dude.
But peterson would nevwr say that because he is a coward
@@Peter-sl6znIt's not hard to understand. Depending on the character of the men, a lot of people will go for an attractive woman even if she's a little toxic, disrespectful, dresses provocatively for no reason or because she knows the reaction it gets. The laundry list of red flags exists that men put up with because she may be pretty.
@@Peter-sl6zn Men by nature are just chasers, women are the "pickers" of those "chasers"
It happens to women in their mod-40's, too. I was 51 before I finally figured it all out. Met a lady a few weeks ago. It happened to her at the age of 77. She had been happily married her entire life until widowed at 71. Her and her hubby had known this man for 15 years! She had no clue...
I'm 75. I wasn't fooled but unable to get out from under his control. Something in him repelled me. As a Catholic, I received sacraments. One of which was Confirmation, which gives you the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I heard a priest say, confirmed Catholics have the ability to exorcise demons. My hacker just said Ok. Using the black space above keyboard. Not normal spell checker. He overrides that.
Because of his actions and wearing me down through things he set up years ago, if someone shows up to rescue me, I'm sidelined. I lose continually by what he's set up.
Well if you're dating a 77 old women, yes you're a psychopath
I'm sorry to hear this, there are a whole group of men that don't know the harm they are doing because we struggle with our own shit everyday and lack the tools to express to our wife EXACTLY what we are thinking and lead the emotional rollercoaster to a stop...In some cases this lack of constrctive communication leaves both partners feeling avoidant and walking on eggshells, yet both are dying for connection. It's a Godly husbands job to lead his wife to her peace and support her soul.
@@biersmorgen6609but no seal no deal 😊
My wife did, but I was/am also confident and assertive, I don’t doubt myself in moments where leadership is needed or conflict needs resolving. Reflection is the proper time for self judgement.
A nice guy they can't manipulate
They can...but they want to do it a truth and Honest way
There’s a big difference between a “nice guy” and a good man.
THE SIGMA, NO NONSENSE FKNG BAD ASS WITHOUT SAYING A DAMN THING DOING WHAT HE NEEDS TO WHETHER PEOPLE AGREE OR DISAGREE HE DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT
THE MOST STRONGEST MEN ALIVE
THE SCORPIO/SIGMA MALE
@@nazshah5263 The strongest thing on earth is an unbreakable will.
@@abracadabra6324 yes and if you study the scorpio/sigma males they have the sheer will to get IT!!! done that said there's few males in the world left now that have this WILL!! but the one's I've mentioned do without a shadow of a doubt
It's just a sign of immaturity. I always liked the nice guys and disliked the mean ones. I've always just been an old soul. I knew some things before my time. 😅
Some people are talking about their own personal experiences
I get that i old soul as well
Where have you been all my life
They mistake arrogance for confidence. And being humble for weakness.
Tbh confidence to be disliked is confidence.
This 💯😂. Nice men overthink and obsess about the girl that rejected them while the bad guy is already out there making another women giggle.
He's making a distinction between the confidence that comes from being strong and centered and the confidence that comes from being a narcissistic sociopath. Young women can't tell the difference, but among young men, the latter is far more common.
Not really. It could easily be delusion, not confidence. Which is not confidence. It's mental illness.
He only sees part of the picture. The reason these bad behaviors get overlooked as well is the guys themselves not caring is because of looks allowing them to behave like that
100%. Same with humor. When I was younger, I thought my humor was a game changer in my game. It turned out that women were laughing at my jokes (most of the time not funny) because I was good looking.
Moral of the story: Be disagreeable. Don't tell anyone you care about anything.
Get the women you want.
(Yeah, plural women)
Because reasons. 🤷
Stop saying younger women but women in general because ive seen older women be the same way
Stop generalizing....
Unconditional love, reciprocation, a partner not a responsibility, physical touch, and supportive.
The good boy vs the bad boy but at the end of the day its the one who is mature & humble & lives with integrity
I think it's also cultural too. I spent some time in China and women would choose the kind man there more often. They'd also be specifically looking for a husband and uninterested in "dating". But that was 20 years ago, things most certainly have changed to some degree.
He's Not Wrong, but this will Never Change.
Women, especially Young Women will always initially be drawn to shameless, narcissistic, carefree, even loud & brash men. Then after they get burned by said men, then they'll start looking with a discerning eye for character.
It's a script in society that will apparently never change.
What's Real almost never outshines what's Flashy.
Same happens with men .
I thought this was the case too but I've come to realization ALL ages of women largely still are the same. My ex was 34 years old with 2 kids(from men that left after impregnation) and STILL falls for the dirt bag type. Stayed with me, a decent, hard working guy for a year and a half but simply could not stomach the idea of decency and left me for some loser basically OVERNIGHT without explanation or guilt! Some rare cases may learn and I believe a lot of that is $ related, but MOST WANT or always will RETURN to a bad, loser, sick type of man over a good man!
@@mattyo5022 Only a troubled, emotionally unhealthy person, male or female, would do that.
@mattyo5022 are you sure these women didn't leave for a more physically attractive man?
@@mattyo5022 Only an emotionally unhealthy woman would be in a toxic relationship. A healthy woman (or man) would get out of a toxic relationship. Healthy people don’t go for unhealthy ones. JS.
Older women are just as susceptible. Tinder Swindler, anyone? Those weren't young women he was swindling.
I literally just made this same comment. Women who think being older and bitter makes themselves less able to fool are full of it.
@Kyle-2020 i have some fuckboy energy ppl say so older women tend to be attracted to me cuz I'm also obviously very educated and well spoken. When they realize I'm not actually a fuckboy they lose interest very fast. Ironically the ones so unhinged that I lose interest in them before they even get to know a few things about me they get obsessed and chase. Its actually sick.
@@ethosterros9430Yeah i think the veil of manipulation is starting to fall quickly on women of every age and culture and their biological nature is becoming clearer and clearer
Or some of those women giving Wade Wilson money and support.
Fun fact: the reason why younger women attracted to criminals is because most of them believe that they can tame them.
This Counsiou/subconscious believe is also visible in many popular Manuwa/manhwa which is mostly read by teenagers.
And as a female i kinda think this way😅
Tame to what extent?
Will you be my gf ? I'm 21 and never been in relationship before
@@Peter-sl6zn lol
@@Peter-sl6zn bruh 😑 .......
Just go to the strip club a couple times and get the girl you find the hottest to give you a lap dance and talk to her, you'll (probably) become less awkward around girls you like thereafter.
*Disclaimer: results may vary
@@Peter-sl6zn Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Agreeable can be boring because there is no disagreement and resulting expansion of ideas, interesting discussion and growth.
Best explanation of attraction to the "Bad Boys"
Newly divorced women coming out of long marriages are also high risk for getting into a relationship with a psychopath or narcissist. I was married for over 20 years and the first 2 people I dated were both likely a narcissist and a psychopath. Luckily, I ended it and ended up meeting my wonderful husband - but not until I spent a few years processing all the abuse from my divorce and healing from the trauma of those relationships. Once I was in a much healthier place, I was ready to meet someone who was healthy- and it’s been the healthiest relationship I’ve ever had. I am so grateful for him and what we have.
Divorce caused abuse ? How did he divorce you suddenly ?
I'm sure there's more to this story. I feel sorry for your husband and what he probably doesn't know.
@@SKBottom She didn't say anything that should initiate that kind of response.
@bbaird197 OK, White Knight. Maybe if you try hard enough to save m'lady, she'll actually sleep with you! 🤣
Woman want connection and empathy gottmans got it close....when we talk to women, us men have to be able to look at their soul, woman will ALWAYS try to find a reason to leave the man they are with eventually, don't give them one....all you have to do is stand firm in Christ and she will be a bird who always wants to land on ur shoulder.
It's simply incredible how many women fall for and pursue men who treat them like crap!
We’re different. Men lead and will give their life for others. Been that way for generations. Together men and women that work together are unstoppable.
Learning to say "No" is for young men, too .. Have integrity .. and don't be 'nice' at the expense of it.
this guy is one of my favorites to listen too
When i disagree with women they talk to me more
I comfort her from an abusive guy, and she left me 😅
Banger right here
Basically we’re all cooked… If young women are more attracted to toxic men in their youth during their child bearing years. Possibly figuring it out when they’ve hit the proverbial wall. Then what?
We are indeed, cooked. Women are no longer getting solid advice from her parents, but social media women who are shallow. By the time she finds you attractive, she's already got two kids who you can be sure will never respect you.
Women at their core seem to be narcissistic, with no care for the greater good of their civilization. Which is possibly why they weren't allowed authority within polite society. Or voting rights. Until now..
Well we're not really a perfect altruistic society are we?
You've discovered a principle cause of the single mother epidemic
@modibohylton7503 I think it's mostly about how the guy looks, more so than personality.
@@MR-el2ym nooo.. if the guy looks hundsom, but in "nice guy".. it will finish in little time.. reall quickly
Something I always wanted to explain to my female relatives or old friends... and something I wanted to say to women that I turned down because I wasn't confident enough (in my own standards) that I can pull through our relationship without having bs reactions from my immature and impulsive parts... but thanks to.God we have Jordan Peterson who is always ON POINT!
Empathy is the million dollar word
And the most hard to find value
My parents taught me to be polite with people. I was polite and nice with everyone, including with young women (Also I was poor). But it did not work. I was rejected. That was many years ago. Today, I can date women, but at my age I don't have to date soccer moms. I'm happy to be a single man.
What's your age ? Btw I'm 21 year old men I never had gf and I'll be graduating from college in 2025 summer, do you have any advice for me ?
@@Peter-sl6zn I'm 60. If you meet someone don't take a relationship seriously. Treat her like your good friend. If you have feeling for her and you want a serous / long term relationship, be careful because women (as well as man) always change their mind. Try to be a leader and test her, see if she is supportive in difficult situations. If she is not supportive, she is not for you.
@@kingdomofgeorgia1751 thanks for sharing your insights! I'll definitely keep that advice in mind as I go forward. It's helpful to hear different perspective, I'll keep working on myself and looking for someone who values genuine support and values a real connections too. It's good to hear from someone with more experience 😊. Wishing you all the best!"
@@Peter-sl6znjust focus on your personal growth and career, and if there is a girl who is genuinely interested in you then reciprocate it ,
most probably you both will have a bright future ahead
@@Peter-sl6znIf you want advice on relationships, ask someone who is in a very long term happy marriage.
That's probably true. I try to advise certain individuals against falling for it.
They blindly follow their heart and emotions.
When father and daughter sit down and debate serious subjects on a very lucid manner. 👌
@@nooneofconsequence1586 🤣🤣
@@non_ideological_transexual7414 Is it funny? Here let me amuse you with even funnier nonsense:
"I discovered I was transphobic around the age of H. Back in those days, badoobee badadoodoo wasn't badadoodoo at all. My parents thought that Willy Wonka was gonna be re-elected, but the Oompa Loompas left the building. It was around that time I discovered J. K. Rowling and the Goblet of Phoenix. From that point, everything changed. West Ham tasted like East Ham and I don't even like fish. Some people would shit and eat because the LGBT said so and by the time the Q brought the I, A+ was shitting and eating perpetually all over twitter ranch. God thought it was funny because he invented covid to make things better. That's how I came to terms identifying as I need the darkness, someone please cut the lights."
I didn't need Jordan Peterson to tell me this. Other men (Like myself) have known this for YEARS!
Can someone link the full video for this?👏
Because more than likely they're coming fresh out of a home where one of their parents was probably a narcissist.
No, it’s because father aren’t in the household to teach them otherwise
@@markpena1412 Maybe both. 😂
@@markpena1412lmao a pos father who’s a lunatic like the video mentions is going to do worse damage than having no father. Now she’s going to grow up to find a man just like him
This explain his daughter ?
@@nolslifegren gtfo my comment stupid
Women MUST know themselves, knowing who we are and loving ourself, putting ourself and needs first, gives women the confidence needed to look and be more selective of the right man. A relationship with a man because we want to, NOT because we need to, makes a big difference. ❤
Also, many individuals conflate arrogance with intelligence and intellectualism too. It’s not exclusive to just women, but this conversation here applies to young women.
Not just women I agree.
It currently applies to 75 million Americans give or take.
@ Haha, agreed! I see what you did there. That amount of people is such a soberingly high amount, sometimes all we can do is laugh it off in the meantime between now and November 5th. All we can do is make sure we get the vote out by that date. 💙
I know it's a lot of younger women are interested in older guys because they're not treated right by the younger guys. But as I've told them before if I wanted to have another kid my wife and I would just have one.
Self-centeredness mimics self-confidence and most women don't learn to differentiate the two until they've been fooled by it at least once.
Sometimes a bit more than once...
But the attraction is to a man who appears to have agency over himself and the space he controls.
As a metaphor, most women are more attracted to a guy who is driving the car than the one riding shotgun. But to know whether hes a good man or not, you need to figure out where he's driving to.
Sounds like he’s indirectly, giving his daughter advice about Andrew Tate and her escapades with him😂
Non sense! They still want the narcisistic guy but their looks wont let them keep him so they settle for the nice guy before time runs out...
Jordan Peterson is very right, I've experienced it first hand, being nice to girls or young women makes you unattractive, but then again, trying to be bad will make them gossip about how I've fallen off, how I'm an undisclosed and arrogant guy. It's best just stop putting in the effort in trying to look good, because you won't end up finding the right solemate. Just be somewhere in the middle, towards being nice, but not too nice, it drained me out my energy until I learned that. Now I'm not even looking for a girl/woman, some will just stumble upon me thinking that I'm like a ,,cool" guy. Never the less, I don't despise girls, I've progressed in my tactic. Anyways, have a nice day or night.
I'm competent and secure. I don’t care what other people think. I'm not nice, but I'm kind. I'm not mean, I'm not a bully. I'm not a monster. And I deeply care for people.
Didn't this woman get flown out to Romania by the tate brothers...
Correct sir. Spent my time being a nice guy because I am. Thinking, one day. But that day does not get you anywhere.
Jordan is brilliant
Ask him if NPD is 5 percent or less of the US population ... How it mathematically possible for women. To date so many guys with supposed NPD
He's known as the stupid man's smart person for a reason
@americantyrant98 and a lying hypocritical charlatan. His crying about men who are suffering and haven't ever received a kind word wouldn't fall on flat ears if he didn't constantly shit on men in other interviews for being useless losers. He is all of the problems he's ever spoken of. He hasn't even made his own bed.
Not even close
I don’t always agree with Jordan Peterson, but he has a great point.
I've found that in my experience... As long as a guy shows interest in a girl, continually betters himself physically(goes to the gym, exercises, goes travel/hiking), socially(expands his social networking through going out and doing things or taking short vacations or getaways) and mentally(Furthering his education) as well as sets goals... They can typically get any girl they want at any time... It's the guys who are nice, don't actively try and socialize and show 0 ambition to make their lives better that girls shy away from. They can smell that shit a mile away. If they see you don't or aren't trying to better your life, they're gonna look right through you or see you as a guy friend and nothing more.
The problem is when they are ready, they go for the nice guy then, but nice guys also want to enjoy the freak daddy issue girl, and not to end-up with the vanilla side, so they don't match, that's why we see so many single people nowadays.
Small f feminist talking to a large F feminist
Very funny and as if it changes much with age.
Meanwhile women watch with fascination shows about the life of serial killers and write to serial killers. Prisons have started to ban female guards in male prisons . Such a complete picture here about what is happening 😂😂😂.
Peterson is clueless about these things
Thank you for saying who is the true masculine verses the false masculine. It took me years to get my oldest daughter to understand that.
I had to get her to see that it takes masculinity to be nice, kind, considerate, and compassionate. You have to put your ego aside to truely love someone. It is very easy to be an asshole and no masculinity is needed to be an asshole, to act hard and exibiting false confidence .
It takes a masculine man to truely love a woman. It takes nothing to use her, minipulate her and cause her life long trauma. It really takes no feelings at all to do that to a woman. Yet that is what they fall for.
My daughter stopped her attraction for the false masculine man and chose the the true masculine man who treats her with love, compassion and respect.
It's been times when i ask myself did i hold a woman to too high of a standard after I see what kind of guy she goes for.
And then when they grow up... They mistake confidence with narcisim or Psychopathy...
So they always have an excuse why they not choose you 😂
But peterson does not see his own arrogance.
That’s exactly what I wanted to hear 👏👏
Funny cause she was fooled by Andrew Tate
absolutely true , the nice guy is boring , the bastard is exciting and sexy
Inmature women see it that way, mature women see it as "nice guy is stable, bastad is unstable", not all women get to mature to understand the difference between boring and stable and the difference between exciting and sexy and unstable.
😂😂😂
@@IL7319 the mature woman WILL NEVER Look into the "nice guy"..
She will look into the mature Man
What an amazing father & daughter! ❤
Everybody likes a challenge. When something's too easy you don't want it as much.
It's like no one wants to be happy anymore haha
The problem is a woman's pride. Pride in a woman is like alcohol in a man. The more prideful a woman is, the more upside down and backwards she sees things; what should be considered appealing is unappealing and vice versa. In the same way that an intoxicated man would hook up with a woman that he never would have if he were sober, the more pride a woman has, the more attracted she is to garbage. As time goes on and life cracks women over the head with its proverbial bricks over the years, pride dissipates and they begin to 'sober up'. The men they would have laughed out of a bar at 21 are the men they wish they could have been with when they reach 31 (or 41...).
I think you need help man
You have an interesting take on this.
@@johnkrneta5627 My personal theory is that as men get older they become wiser through life experience while women lose pride over time and gain clarity; the manner in which men and women 'change for the better' over time is different as it is gender specific - life's hardships (generally) make better people as they build a man up while knocking women down lol.
@@brianm5563 I have to say that your theory makes sense to me. Thanks To the feminist movement our whole society is afraid to consider how the two genders differ.
Your theory also makes sense because a woman hits her height in beauty at about age 20, but a man hits his height in earning power, usually in his 50s.
@@johnkrneta5627 Yep - and one more item.... I also think the way people gain personal value ('self esteem') is gender specific; men are born with zero value and gain it over time through what they produce/contribute - what they bring to the table. His value comes from what he gives, not what he has. Women are born inherently and immensely valuable and maintain it through humility/modesty/chastity. By being proud and promiscuous, a woman destroys where she gets her value (like Samson getting his hair cut, if you know the reference..) By attempting to erase the line between genders and promoting the idea that there are no differences, the ability to understand how to be satisfied in life is made into an unknowable mystery.. Hence the American drug epidemic along with the newly recognized issue of mental health.