Matvei Michkov is worth waiting for
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- Elite Prospects takes you into the Film Room™️ to look at Matvei Michkov's game, his upside, strengths, and weaknesses.
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Here after my flyers got him! Couldnt be happier he fell into our laps at #7 and then hearing him say he wanted to go to the Flyers after meeting with us.
Draft Demidov next year hopefully, his MHL teamate in St. Petersburg, Demidov put up 50 points in 38 games this past season. Imagine having two Russian stars who can score at will?
Flyers with the steal of the draft! Welcome to Philly!
He was ranked above Bedard before he got sick. He got mono and ended up dropping in rankings from it's effects. I also love that he asked to be a Flyer. So you know he's playing for the team he wants to play for. He told other teams not to take him and asked the Flyers to.
Michkov vs Bedard is going to be a fun generational talent rivalry to watch.
He's a beast and now a Flyer! LET'S F*CKING GO!!
LET’S GO FLYERS
Some how some way my flyers got him at 7
Man I am so excited. I know it will probably be a few years before we see him but man!!! Worth the wait
Let’s go flyers!
We got him after just a year what an absolute steal.
Future Philly legend
WELCOME TO PHILADELPHIA!!
Very excited to see this kid play in Orange and Black!
He'll be there next season.
He's unreal. Great video and breakdown. IMO, he and Bedard are on a level of their own far higher than anyone else in this draft class.
I wouldn't underestimate Fantilli. He is quite a player as well.
@@piano_in_the_afternoon9900 I understand and respect your view. I'm just not sold on Fantilli. Considering he's already a grown man physically, he didn't dominate the WJC like I thought he should. He got stronger as the tourney went on, but wasn't a dominant player IMO. It's a shame we were not able to see Michkov at that tourney. But judging from his performance and numbers compared to greats like Ovechkin, I believe he's on a whole other level above Fanitlli, Carlsson and Smith. I guess time will ultimately tell. ⏲
@@TheGreekPoet I think Fantilli is better than Michkov, simply based on size, Michkov won't grow too much, obviously, it's hard to tell because of the lack of video, but they're both dynamic and exciting. Will be interesting to see how they pan out in the upcoming years.
@@lechnis We'll see. Although no one can say Michkov has size. He isn't a waif. The oft listed stats have him at 154lbs, when he's said that he's now actually 172lbs. In pics he looks stocky. Kinda like Martin St.Louis was/is. And he's way more talented than Fantilli. Like WAY more.
@@TheGreekPoet He's a grown man? Have you seen a picture of him without his uniform? I was built like him when I was 16 he has no muscle definition on his arms at all. Just dumb, lazy reasoning.
I was hoping for a video on Michkov, great work as always David.
This kid is probably going to be one of the best he seemed like right there with Bedard when they went head to head in the u18 tournament
Let's go Flyers!
Flyers lets goooo
That between the legs goal was absolutely filthy
Philly is not gonna regret this pick
Habs fans seem to think we will pass on him at 5. No chance. More likely that he’s not available for us at 5.
sharks are going to get him probably, unfortunate I really wanted the next Russian superstar in a blue blanc rouge jersey
Gonna slide he won’t be released to the NHL
San Jose (most likely)
@@maxpatenaude2115 I'm a sharks fan and that would be way too fortunate Mike Grier is going to drop the ball and mess up by picking will smith instead
@@Darkyschanel 100%. If Grier does that he's fucking braindead. Will Smith had such a good team around him I truly believe he's not gonna be a true #1 center in the big league.
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Welcome to Philly baby!
Very insightful. Hadn't seen much of Michkov and now I'm very impressed. Whoever gets him will be very lucky
And now he's a Philadelphia Flyer 😁
Welcome to the Flyers!
You know, my opinion has changed a lot in the past couple of days. I’ve been thinking about it a lot and now I want the Sharks to draft him. Even in a worst case scenario where he doesn’t even come to North America, they’ll still have a lot more top prospects between 2024-2027. Michkov was viewed as the best player in this draft by a lot of people just a little over a year ago. I think if you have the chance to draft him, you take that chance. The reward outweighs the risk and it ain’t even close. Sharks aren’t competing for at least 4-5 years so they need to take Michkov.
As A Sharks fan I fear they will go for a safer choice. But I think you HAVE to gamble on someone who would be considered the most skilled player ever drafted in Franchise History. I feel like Mike Grier is gonna take the safe buddy boston route and go for Smith (No way columbus doesnt take Carlsson), whilst a very good player is not a game changer like Michkov is. Plus the Sharks will be running contracts out, and gaining prospects and picks the next few years so by the time Michkov would be ready he would be seasoned, and the Sharks will be greatly improved!
I agree what is the point in taking Will Smith who will probably be 1 or 2 years away from NHL anyway. You always take the best player available. I will rage if Sharks don’t take Michkov
What scares me with Smith, is that he played with such a good US program (there is like 4 guys in the top 15). It's bound to happen that some of those guys overperformed with the talent on the team. The Sharks need to draft Michkov because he's simply the best player available if he drops at 4 and the Sharks are gonna be bad for at least 2 or 3 more years imo.
@@jeremylortie3052 I honestly don’t find too much difference between Smith, Leonard, and Perreault in terms of skill. Whereas Michkov is one of a kind. People also don’t understand that scoring is low as hell in the K, league leaders usually about a PPG if even that
@@jeremylortie3052man you guys must be pissed. He’s coming into the nhl the same year as smith maybe even sooner.
Thanks for passing up on him! We’ll see how well this comment ages
Feels like exactly who the Habs have been waiting for for decades
May not want to draft Russians
@@jasvinder91 May not want to pass on a generational talent
This is exactly what I’ve been saying. We haven’t had a player like this is my lifetime.
@@Barney5G There should be no hesitation, you pick him and you wait for him to come over.
@@jasvinder91 Habs head scout is literally a Russian... I don't think they pass on him if still available... He's too good
Boy I cant wait to see this dude playing for the flyers. I cant remember a player with his type of skills playing for the flyers. I just hope the war doesn't affect him coming to the states.
Best video I’ve seen on Michkov. Great hockey talent for sure. Whoever drafts him will have to be good with handling Russia. I don’t think it’s as simple as just waiting for his KHL contract to end. Why was he pressured to sign a long term deal in the first place? What’s up with his dad’s death? Will he be pressured to stay in Russia?
There are a lot of risks to be sure. He probably won't last until 7 where my Flyers draft, but if he does they (regrettably) shouldn't take him. The Russians have never forgotten the 1976 Flyers-Red Army game. Nor have they forgotten Mr. Snider's famous aversion to signing Russians. In fact, last year their army drafted our G prospect Fedotov to keep him from coming over.
@@yossarian1385 yeah, Russian players have a lot of risks outside of hockey. Kaprizov wasn’t drafted until the FIFTH round for having similar questions about his contract. Best case scenario Michkov comes over in 3 years, but those are 3 important years into a players development. There’s risk involved with trusting the KHL to develop his skills and iron out the weaknesses in his game.
It seems like his dad died because of heart attack and it's hard to predict now how this will influence his career. But it certainly will, because his dad was his personal coach and had a very close connection to Matvey.
The situation with his contact is also kinda unpredictable, as he is tied with SKA St.Petersburg ruled by crazy clown Rotenberg. He appointed himself a head coach in the club (and kinda in the national team) and stands against young players leaving for the NHL. I don't know what methods they use to make the players stay, but many great russians ready for the NHL are under long contacts in SKA (defenseman Nikishin, for example). Probably they're just saying that players can become a star in the NHL only after becoming a star in the KHL and paying for the loyalty, but the story of goaltender Fedotov and CSKA shows that hockey authorities do have power to keep players in Russia by force (he was made to serve military duty instead of going to Flyers). In Russia we all hope to see russian players in the world's best league, but the perspectives are only getting worse :(
@@yossarian1385 if the sharks pass on him and pick will smith I hope the sharks keep their current attendance trend going in the same direction and end up being Arizona 2.0
@@yossarian1385 welp let’s hope you’re wrong but I’ll agree it’s risky. LGF!
like you said, it's amazing to see he has such a high ability to bait with his dangles, not just pull them off for positioning. He waits for the defender to attack him, and expects it and times them well
As a Flyers fan, first time I've been excited about this team in a while
last time I was this happy when we offer-sheeted Weber.
Great video sir! God I hope he comes to the NHL soon. His situation in Russia freaking sucks ...
whoever passes on him will regret it.
Yes, my Sharks will definitely regret it if they do.
Ghg
I will start this by saying I completely agree with you in the sense that michkov will be way better than a 5+ pick however this draft is very complicated I believe Matvei is by far the 2nd most promising prospect in this draft. I feel that with the advanced stats that Zachary Benson has, it will be hard to say no to him. With this being said the Montreal Canadiens should really think hard if both of these players are available.
Well thats montral ahahahaha
Well that comment aged well.
Welcome to Philadelphia
Flyers should draft him
He will gone at #5. Nice try.
@@rickymartin875 womp womp
@@rickymartin875 say what lol
@@hoshilee4324 Make sure to watch Reinbacher clock some Leafs guy opening against the Loser Leafs? I’ll watch Matvei’s debut in 3 years? maybe? lol
@@rickymartin875This aged well😂
Now a Flyer
Спасибо за уважение😊🤗
A future case study on the subject of risk in the NHL draft. On and off the ice. That being said, he’s the second best prospect in the draft.
LET’S FUCKING GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!!
I think he’s a perfect pick for Montreal, he’ll come when he’s ready and his game is more polished, and his body is more mature. He’ll beable contribute at a star level and push the team to another level
I think hockey sense is the most important factor when comparing talented prospects. It's all about making the most of your skills and if your vision and creativity are limited it won't matter how hard your shot is or how good your stride is. For this reason alone I like him more than Fantilli. I see that EP has correctly identified hockey sense as Michkov's strongest trait and it's what, to me, sets him apart.
For the same reason, it's baffling to me that so many scouting services have Fantilli above Michkov, which I would assume is strongly motivated by the so-called Russian factor. But the Russian factor really doesn't apply all that much to elite players, all of who want to be in the best league in the world. No exceptions. Michkov has said on the record that he wants to play in the NHL, so the so-called "risk" narrative I keep seeing in the social media seems to be innuendo.
It's also not the only kind of innuendo I've seen regarding Michkov. Some pundits have spread baseless rumours about Michkov, the most recent of which (I think by Elliotte Friedman) was that Michkov refused to meet with NHL teams. This was later shown to be false by Bob McKenze. These kinds of rumours and innuendo have a tendency of adding up and influencing people's perception. The hockey community sees smoke and assumes fire, so to speak. But the smoke in this case seems like a fairly basic case of a "fear of the other" or "fear of the unknown," as Russia and Russians have become in the collective Western consciousness in this time of geopolitical strife. However once you look at the facts objectively and at the historical precedent, the "risk" narratives falls apart.
Michkov is a guy who obviously loves hockey, is extremely motivated and competitive and he wants to play in the NHL. He has no glaring weaknesses and appears to be a smart and well-spoken chap (I've watched interviews with him). There's also been some innuendo about his personality and I've noticed a certain cockiness about him. I'll give you my impression on him, which is that he appears to be very singularly-minded on the game, very devoted to it. Michkov is not Alex Daigle, I'll put it this way, and I think ultimately this is what should matter to every team that considers drafting him. Even those who knock him for his skating I think are splitting hairs. He may not be fast like Oliver Moore, but he's quick, his edge work is fantastic and he thinks he game much quicker than Moore (or anyone in this draft, for that matter).
And then let's not forget the basics here: the guy's production is not just great, it's fantastic and right there with Bedard -- the guy who's been built up to be the undisputed number one in this draft. Even if we keep in mind the realities of geopolitics, how can anyone justify passing on this guy at the second selection, let alone the 5th? Teams would pass up on a guy who thinks the game this well? I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Agreed on all points, and masterfully articulated if I may I add. My Ducks 🦆 will do well to draft him. Mr. Verbeek, make it happen! #FlyTogether
Im not worried about him wanting to come over here Im worried about Putin not letting him come over bcuz of the war.
@@brianawilk285 Russian players are coming over every year. Miroshnichenko for example is arriving this summer. Russia doesn't even have a draft. In fact, they don't even have a war economy at this point.
@@JD-jc8gp yes they do and Fedotov was arrested for not reporting for military service. Thats why they have no idea when they're getting their goalie and if the war wasn't an issue Michkov wouldn't have dropped so far, yeah he has a contract with another team but thats not a big deal considering most prospects go to college or play minor hockey for at least 2 years. Provy wasn't with the flyers for his first few years and even played a year in the AHL.
You obviously don't know anything about the Russia/Ukraine war. Russia has close to a million men involved in the war wether its directly or just in logistics and they are in a war time economy. I follow several sources on that war and now that my team drafted Michkov Im gonna be even more paying attention to it.
@@JD-jc8gp maybe some guys have privilege our goalie sure didn't.
Love your insights on every prospects! So appreciated. I'm not a connoisseur of advanced stats but we often read and hear than Slavkovsky is not an analytical darling, yet we just saw him be second to Michkov in two separate graphs.
My question is : what's going on?
Thank you so much!
Slaf's underlying metrics were better than his production in his draft year. He was a bit unlucky and should have scored more. We didn't track metrics like this as much last year. Lassi has done a lot of great work on that front this year, including going back and tracking seasons of past top prospects. I think when people say that Slaf was not an analytical darling in his draft year, they refer to NHLe. Models that use production to project prospects to the NHL. If a prospect doesn't score a lot in Liiga, like Slaf, then he doesn't look good on models that use production to rank prospects.
David can I ask you what you thought of Slaf’s first season? Does it change your opinion at all on his upside? Thoughts?
@@davidst-louis8315 What a thoughtful and thorough answer. Très apprécié. Merci!
It's really a no-brainer for me at 5. But if he's already picked up, that means that another one of the fab 5 is still available. Either way, it should be a exciting !
It was a not a no brainer at 5. It was more the Habs went full donkey-brained lol
Congrats on Reinbacher
I was at the game where he did the Michigan and between the legs just out of frame on the left
Thanks for all the great prospects analysis. Can you do one on Sandin-Pellikka? Imo, his vision, confidence, speed, & passing make him a rare prospect. There have been a lot of talented D prospects the last decade or so, but I can't think of anyone who dazzles quite like Sandin-Pellikka.
He's on the list!
@@davidst-louis8315 Awesome.
Michkov/Bedard is going to be the next Ovechkin/Crosby
Everything screams generational talent imo, Kent Hughes do your thing.
Do your thing and skip right over him
@@SteveWhite-yi6ky if he’s available at 5th, he would be a steal. gotta be braindead to pick anyone else.
Have a feeling we’re not gonna take him :(
@@TristanDeshaies not should we 😆
And what would you offer the Ducks?
Thanks for uploading this! Michkov looks amazing from everything I've read. I wonder if in 6-8 years we'll look back at him being the second best player in this draft.
or the best player in the draft
@@HANDLE4798 bedards a better all around player then him and is a much better skater at the moment. Not saying he couldn’t beat bedard but I think bedards on another lvl
@@ryanwasiak7050 Yes Bedard is a better player right now but in 6-8 guess we will see but I think Michkov would of lit up juniors as bedard did as well. he had 20points in 27 khl at 17 which is insane. to put that in perspective Ovi had 24 points in 53 games in his draft year
@@ryanwasiak7050we dont know yet... YOU dont know yet... stop with that ... thats probably the 1st video of Michkov you ever seen... Michkov and Bedard for a lot of scouts was fighting for the 1st place, more than 1 year ago... they both improve a lot since last year...
@@coreysghostglowmask8650 yup and yet bedard is the #1 player in the bedard across the board. Has a better 3 zone player the Michkov, a better skater, and a high compete level (meaning he goes into the dirty areas more). The literal only thing Michkov might have on bedard is his shot and even then it’s extremely close.
I can't seeing the Sharks pass on him!
I can!
I can’t wait to see a Eklund Bystedt Michkov line!
If you guys pick Michkov…
You’ll need to pick your 1st line center in the next couple of drafts.
Bystedt is NOT a 1C
is there a link for that article (at the start of video)
Pavel Bure is who he reminds me of 😊
Pls Hughes 🙏 grab him up hes deff special
Go flyers
LETS GO FLYERS
Reminds me of Datsyuk, but Pavel had wider shoulders and sturdier frame that gave him that strength over the puck.
Datsyuk was not a blazing fast, but really knew how to draw out defenders, slide by them along the boards, or just get the puck around them with superior stickhandling. .
I think the only player Yzerman would trade up for as Bedard and Fantilli are spoken for already. Yet CBJ or SJ would be crazy to pass on him.
oh man if that scenario become true... I could sweat alot 😂😅😅 Yzerman moving for Michkov would be an absolute sweet hockey dream but it's unlikely maybe...
CBJ and SJ are small hockey markets compared to the storied Montreal Canadiens. Habs are in full rebuild and can afford to take a chance on Michkov and wait for him. Not so sure those other two mentioned teams are in that position.
I just have a feeling that Mitchkov will became a better player than Connor Bedard
Ducks should get him, people say you have to wait 3 years, big deal , their are plenty of high pick first rounders that go to college for 2 years, Logan Cooley just said he's going back to college for a second year, happens all the time
Michkov should go in the 2nd-4th range.. him dropping beyond that would be a mistake.
Awesome work David! I’m curious, as I’ve heard other people saying this to be true, but is there a possibility in 20 years, we look back and Michkov is the best from this draft class? Thanks again.
I don't see that with Connor Bedard in this draft. Bedard won't even be 18 until mid July.
It's unlikely. I love the hockey sense and I think his intelligence is sometimes hidden behind bad habits right now, but his skills aren't as dynamic as Bedard's or Fantilli's. I'd love for that to happen, however, as it would be another indication that, in the end, hockey sense matters way more than straight skill and tools.
@@davidst-louis8315 nah if things go right Michkov clears Fantilli in a few years imo. Fantilli is Hintz/Eichel Michkov could be better than Kucherov.
Very possible. Could be the case of lafreniere vs stutzle back in 2020. Lafreniere was so hyped up from the points he had in junior, but stutzle was the better player and pro ready from his stats in DEL. KHL is the second best league in the world, and considering how good Michkov's stats were there, he definitely would've at least equaled bedards points in whl, if not beat them
@@davidst-louis8315 Awesome! I appreciate your input. I agree, the tools are better in Bedard. I feel the situation of the team each player arrives in could play dividends to their development. For example, if Michkov goes to a team that already has its rebuild progressed, he’ll likely reach x amount of points before Bedard does in Chicago. That’s the way I see it. Long term though, I think Bedard we be the top of this class, but Michkov a close second.
ivan fedotov just showed up. press conference with danny b about an hour ago. he's cleared to play.
Can you do an Alexis Gendron report
He'll look good on a powerplay with bedard in a few years
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Welcome to the San Jose Sharks
He is small, but he's similar than Brad Marchand. Strong with the puck and has very good balance.
Actually a decently good comp!
I'll be disappointed if the habs dont take him, or Benson at the least. The talent after them is so much worse. Montreal needs a star and are willing to wait.
Future San Jose Shark
Sharks are picking Carlson
@@rickymartin875 from your lips to God's ears my friend
@@billybob-sb8ue God knows who the Sharks will pick. I don’t! lol
thank you for this, I hope he's there at #5
We need this guy badly, baldy Hughes better not pass on him
i hope the hawks are somehow able to trade up and draft michkov. bedard is gonna need a wingman. knock on wood (although he would be nice too).
Give your head a shake.
Ok mon ami David. Hypothetical. If Michkov was able to come to NA next year. And you had 2nd overall. Would you still pick Fantilli? Merci!
Yes. I like Fantilli a bit more.
THE WAIT MAY BE OVER SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope he’s wearing Orange and black in a few years!
He is my brother.
Go Flyers!
Этот гол между ног просто 💥
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Waiting for how long? Half a decade, decade?
I want to welcome Philadelphia's newest defensive specialist.
Ban wagon jerk
welcome to montreal
He's going to MTL
as a visiting Flyer, I agree.
Come to Detroit
Time to make Philly great again
Praying to the hockey gods Habs select him at 5th... i doubt he will be available still though
Totally agree coming from another Martin! lol
very Peter Forsberg-esque or just me?
The final rankings are late a little bit, they will miss time of exposure and you'll lose audience, its sad for a so great work.
He’s definitely going to the caps he even said he is playing right into the caps hands cause him and ovi are close when ovi went back to russia and such he ran into michkov to see how he is doing and also to see if he wants to join his team and ovi is michkov idol so…
Montreal Canadiens and Bobrov say NO to your bullshit call! LOL
Michkov's idol is Crosby😂
Hello, Flyers Fan here… lol
First overall any other year
Matvei "Houdini" Michkov
fingers crossed
How do they not say Michigan Michkov lol
Cant pass over him if he's available. Risky or not.
As a red wings fan, I have to say I really don't think the first 8 teams should wait for him and they likely should pick someone else that can make an immediate impact.
But the thing is, other than Bedard and maybe Fantilli, I don't think any other players will make an immediate impact in the NHL. Some are not NHL ready, or commited to college hockey like Will Smith and Leonard. Most likely wait a year or 2 for most players in the top 10. If Michkov takes 3 years, its not that big of a deal, he'll continue growing up as a hockey player in the second best league in the world. He's gonna show up in 3 years and very mature.
As a Habs fan, if he's available at 5, I take him, unless Carlsson or Smith are available but i doubt it.
@@maxpatenaude2115 I 100% agree with you at every point, but I need to push that narrative so there's a snowflakes chance in hell he slips to where the wings can get him via moving up or he makes it to 9th.
As a longtime habs fan, you know nothing of the Montreal Canadiens! They have Bobrov who is Russian and part of the Habs scouting team. They absolutely can afford to wait on Michkov. The team is in full rebuild and the timeline for his debut in the NHL coincides with his arrival to the NHL in 3 years when the Habs are expected to start being competitive.
@@rickymartin875 I think you missed the sarcasm. I totally think a team up there should, especially as the top handful of teams are awful and will not be good anytime soon, but I don't want them to as I want him to be a red wing.
@@Michael_Is_Avg your sarcasm is much appreciated! 😁
I know it won't happen. No top 10 pick will happen probably, but man I hope Chicago trades down to take mitchkov and get another blue chip prospect/young star, I feel like it would be smart but won't happen
easy to say....but a lot can happen in between
I don't normally like to compare players, but Michkov might be the Russian Crosby
It would be fitting for a russian superstar to wear the winged wheel. Oh wheel 🤷♂️🛞
Have fun waiting 3 years for him
Most prospects need 2years in junior / college Anyway.
I don’t get the issue with the 3years tbh
Montreal will start being competitive in 3 years. Timing is perfect.
Inb4 the Wings trade up to get him
Welcome to Montreal!
ROFL. flyers for life!
@@laboom60 No way, Montreal is taking him
@@realbeetlejuice uhhh what? He’s a Flyer LOL
torts has to be gone by the time he comes over. i would think thats automatic since hes a holdover coach from chuck. but i dont want torts near this kid
welcome to philly cutie
Red wings will get him
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