The fact this man spent his time doing what he loved and and finding artifacts of old only for it to have been stolen is seriously so sad. That made sad hearing that man had his work stolen. He seemed like such a sweet and nice guy.
That's because you value... value over loving what you do in life. He didn't care about the cross, other than having it proudly put on his home island after they told him how special it was. The more likely thing is that he was proud of all the findings, no matter the value and lived a happy life either way.
@@Schmorgus no actually I could give less than two shits about the value. It’s sad to me the time spent to even find the art, preserving it for the world but showing it off bc he’s proud not of the object but the adventure and fun he had finding it. The object matters to me very little, I’m sad to see this man do what he loves only to have that physical reminder of his adventure has been stolen.
There is a little known law that dates back a few hundred years called Treasure Trove which pronounced all items found in Bermuda like that as property of the King or Queen at that time.. The cross came under this law which has not to my knowledge been rescinded or updated. Tucker's Cross is still unrecovered and likely in someone's private collection.
I live in the British Channel Islands and was once a brief member of our local metal detecting group, at one meeting in the pub myself and my mate were invited to go and detect a field with these guys who were chasing a legend, we politely declined as we were having fun detecting the beaches, and to be honest, thought they were chasing a ghost. Fast forward a week or two, they found what they'd spent thirty years or so looking for, turned out to be the largest Celtic hoard ever discovered. The Government has laid claim to it, the coin that I was handed (just to look at) was valued at £700, and there was a pile about 1x5x5m, with gold torques and stuff mixed in. I've always regretted not taking them up on their offer to detect that field, If you're reading this Reg, I hope it works out for you guys, 🤜🤛
Shp96 They took if straight away, as soon as they made the find the field was cordoned-off and put under 24 hour police guard while expert archaeologists finished removing the hoard, then it was taken to the local museum where it was slowly and meticulously taken apart and cleaned piece by piece, if I remember right it took over a year for them to do that, you could visit the museum and watch them working through a screen, one moment and I'll dig up some articles on it 👍
I was born and raised in Bermuda and remember as a young boy in the early 70's taking a school field trip to the BDA Aquarium and seeing the display of Tucker's cross. Also the story of how it was a replica and the original was stolen. I had forgotten about it until I saw this video.
Well, it's fairly certain that the Tuckers cross is at the hands of a collector by now. So probably not lost, but merely hidden until revealed again in the future. And it will probably increase tenfold in price too.
Least the saving grace is the cross is worth more in one piece, the ingots and coins and countless other artifacts like that are more than likely melted down
If it is ever revealed to the public, it would 100% go back to the museum by international law. That person would lose the artifact and the money he spent on it.
Man, I really just love all of your vids. The rythm, the pacing, the subject, the flow, the editing, the random lines, the trivial know. Entertaining storytelling, but even more is the mustache though. I even heard several awesome rapline starters in your vids. Crisp structures. Really taken on a journey! Also what a story! Teddy Tucker, the human fishman
Lesson : Just sell for best price to private collectors, because through payment to the finder or payment to master thief, it will end up in the same place.
NO, the person who hired that thief, also hired him immediate transportation off that island. The last thing that collector would do is strip it down to it's bare elements !
@@MrHeyman333 If some stupid hoodlum stole it by chance, then yes, it would... But that's very unlikely, as upon learning of the existence of the jewelry many more people would want it than it would be apparent, and they probably get whatever they want anyways...
Lone this vid! I’ve been to Bermuda twice and got married at Stonehole Bay. The island is incredible. Palaces like Bora Bora and the GBR are far better diving but the charm of Bermuda is undeniable. In from the Washington DC area. 1.5 hour flight and your there. Guest houses can be rented for pennies on the dollar from the large resorts. My fav was in Spanish Point. A lovely couple and their dog, Bully made this stay magical. 20 yards ot the greenest grass led me to the cliffs down to a private cove and swimming beach. Amazing snorkeling and exploring. Elbow beach, Horseshoe and the like are amazing but privacy is easily available. An amazing 3 day trip can easily be done!
I looked up the Muzo mines and the conquistadors in Colombia, and learned a lot. Many thanks, Thoughty2. I particularly liked 'what's mine is mine, including your mines', to ineptly summarise. When you conclude - another unsolved mystery in the Devil's triangle, it is like the end of a poetic film, a sigh from the same part of Ongeland that I'm from. I am currently lobbying a thankless family for an Xmas pressie of your flaggy stick book. I'm not an adolescent wide-eyed over an atlas, resulting in a sticky flag book. Takk.
So a British Monarch got interested in a particular country's jewels and precious metals and they were subsequently never seen again? I'm shocked I tell you!
We know by historical facts that we queen says "I want this", they get it As much as you might like her, it's a plausible theory, and I don't care how good you thought she was, of course in the case they did stole it they wouldn't confess (royal family scandals try to be avoided)
What makes jewelry thieves the worst of all thieves is the fact that you can’t actually sell it after you steal it. Because anyone with a brain can identify pieces like that instantly it means the thieves have to strip the jewels and melt down the gold and sell them individually for a much smaller amount than the whole thing together was worth.
It can't be sold on a regular market, ever heard of a black market? Plenty of rich people willing to pay for a pretty artifact whether or not it was stolen or not.
Yeah, things of that nature have to be fenced through certain people to whom have ties to private collectors that would pay handsomely and also keep it hidden but be just a satisfied with it not even being seen.
@@Jay-oj3qs Bruh you don’t seem to get it. First off, you’re assuming the guy who stole the cross has connections to people with hundreds of millions of dollars because he can’t exactly just put it up for sale and hope one bites. Second, that cross was worth so much money that if you’re caught with it you’re going to lose hundreds of millions of dollars and decades of your life for grand larceny charges. I’m sure there are Rich guys who would buy it, but it’s implausible to assume that the thief has the means to fence that item and expect to get full price for it. In general, ripping the stones out and melting the gold is far easier to do and carries little risk. Once he has the stones independently he can sell them to pretty much anyone because of how difficult it would be to identify them, and once the gold is melted down it’s literally impossible to tell it was the cross, so in general, it’s just not practical to steal and sell something like that unless you already had a buyer lined up prior to you stealing it, and that’s just so unlikely that it’s almost guaranteed that the cross was stripped and melted.
@@Useless22 How is that implausible exactly? Multiple people attempted to buy it and were rejected. Either they had a buyer lined up or were hired by someone to steal it. They took the time to make a replica to give themselves as much time as possible to move the real one, and it worked for several years. The tiny amount of gold and few emeralds in this cross are worth a bit sure, but the whole thing together is greater than the sum of it's parts. A team who had the skill set to create a very convincing forgery and steal it without being detected could have just gone after solid gold bars, which would be worth 100x as much after being melted.
@@Jay-oj3qs They tried to buy it legally not illegally. Like I said, there is too much risk involved for all parties in trying to sell it as it is, hence why it was likely stripped and melted.
10:00 MOST treasure hunters would have stayed until after the storm, as a storm in shallow waters like that will move the pieces of ship (and the sand) around potentially revealing stuff unseen in the previous 6 days.
@@EnergyOfQi *I saw her, with professor peanut, and colonel mustard. They were wearing ski masks but you could tell it was them because they forgot to change shoes.*
Most people share the same priorities. But you're a fool, if you expect an oddball to relate to you. A normal person would have never found that treasure in the first place. Secondly, he could have double-dipped. I find it hard to believe that a plastic imitation went unnoticed for years. It was most likely stolen on that day. And the person raising a stink about smelling a fart is the one to let it out in the first place. It's also likely the queen left with a souvenir.
I’m thinking the queen had something to do with it. As soon as she heard of Spanish gold, she must’ve said, “that belongs to England!” Let’s remember now, that the English stole a lot of gold from the Spanish back in the day
Late 2020: Love the reference to insurance companies hiking premiums. With the barrage of personal insurance commercials, it's equivalent to "death and taxes"
Imagine just helping your grandfather clean out his attic and finding Tucker’s Cross like “Hey Grandpa, whats this?” “Oh thats one of the world’s most valuable treasures that I stole before the Queen of England could see it”
Port Royal was the first thing I thought of when he said in the Bermuda Triangle there are no “lost, sunken cities...” Port Royal might still be there, but the old, fun, Sodom & Gomorrah-ey city is literally sunk right off the coast.
Two months after Arran posted this video, he did just that; it''s called "Why is There a City Full of Dead Pirates on the Ocean Floor?" th-cam.com/video/Kinv4VU9YEo/w-d-xo.html
"For every lucky lad who suddenly became rich; there's countless other lads who have been responsible for relieving the lucky lad of his fortune!" (Ancient proverb)
The Museums take most treasures and leave them locked away never to be seen again! Trust me on this as I am a detectorist that has seen many treasures lost under the process of cataloguing and identifying. Great Video once again T2! Anything to do with treasure and mysteries always gets me!
until the museum and the back market reach a stable agreement, things will be like this. however both hold to their own.. one foolishly says the treasure belongs to the museum and has no need to pay the finder.. and one is finders keepers.. I suggest a compromise. collective greed or individual greed same thing.. everybody wants to eat.. also many museum do indeed steal their own treasures to sell it to the black market anyway :)))
She was indepently wealthy, a playwirght succesful author and also a rich husband way before she was ambassador. She gave most of it to education after she died.
Here's how this works: You donate at least a few hundred thousand, usually million+ to the Republican or Democratic institutions and say you are interested in an ambasadorial position. If your guy/gal wins, you have a good chance to join the USA's diplomatic mission. A person isn't rich because they are an ambassador. A person is an ambassador because they are rich.
I beg to differ. I am an avid and experienced sailor, and yes there is a magnetic anomaly in the proximity of the Bermuda triangle. I have experienced it several times in my life.
Liz turns up and gems go missing. That actually seems like a common theme among the highest quality gems in the world and British royalty. Has anyone checked the Tower of London to see if a golden cross with 5 emeralds on it has inexplicably turned up?
@@starfox8006 I learned it from an indian Jesuit priest who taught theology at my university. I checked, and it's true. Mother Theresa was a faud. People have send her money bc they thought she was helping the sick and the dying. In reality, most of the money went to missionary work, converting pple to Catholicism. Dying people were kept in horrific conditions and denied meds. She also have been accused by many of converting unconscious patients to Catholicism. She is full on "white savior".
Yeah, she would tell suffering and dying children, that more they suffered pain, the closer they got to heaven. But she rarely spent any time in her orphanages themselves, in fact she could barely speak the local dialect of the Indian people, where she claimed to have spent her whole life. She spent most of her time at charity event parties, fundraising dinners, and reward banquets, rubbing elbows with celebrities, politicians and royalty. Beware the cry "But, it's for the children!"
I remember that incident. The whole island seemed to be shocked. Teddy Tucker was himself suspected. My stepfather was involved with that investigation being a detective Inspector in the Bermuda Police force, in charge of the Criminal Records Office and he was the only person on the Island at that time that came anywhere near to being qualified as a forensic scientist. He was also at that time, the official island escort for all Royalty and Presidents who visited Bermuda.
It is amazing how many Galleons and other vessels crossed the Atlantic and the Pacific during Spanish rule. Those Galleons were heavy ships capable of carrying huge loads. This made them easy victims of storms and pirates. On Mindoro Philippines is a natural port called Puerto Galera. The name says it all. The Spanish ships frequently waited there for the right season to cross the Pacific. I met a professional diver who was part of an official archeological expedition. He explained the dangers of depth and currents exploring the wrecks in the waters surrounding the island. Only the bravest and toughest succeed in going down there, recording the wrecks and rescuing the treasurs and artifacts. It is more a dangerous job than an adventure. Every Silver Peso minted in the Philippines came from Mexican and other Latin American mines. The Spanish ships carried silk, Chinese porcellan, ivory, gems and all the other riches Asia had to offer over the Pacific to Acapulco. There the crews received their payment in silver and gold. This silver and gold was brought westward to the Philippines. There are many sunken ships in the Philippines as well. Typhons and other disasters let many ships sink. The waters in the western Pacific often get very deep very quickly. This is an obstacle of rescuing those treasures. The valuable cargo out of Asia was transported on land from Acapulco Mexico and elsewhere to Yucatan. There it was loaded on Galleons going towards Spain. That is one of the reasons why there are so many wrecks of Spanish ships in the Carribbean.
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Don't preach guys. Not everyone ends up face down in a gutter. Alcohol is one of humanity's oldest inventions. The builders of the pyramids were paid in beer, according to some of those little clay tablets with funky writing they found in the area. Alcohol has it's place in society. The key is moderation, just like anything else in life.
See, that is why bureaucracy is important. A theft like that wouldn't have happened in the UK, it would have had to be a lot more elaborate than just changing out a plastic replica for the real one. Besides, if I were chris tucker, I would have not let go off that cross.
I’m been subbed to this channel for more than two years and every time he started the video saying,”hey, thoughty2 here” I always heard it as “hey, 42 here.” I just assumed he really liked the Hitman games or something. 😅 not until 3 mins ago when I read the channel’s name out loud that it hit me. 🤣🤣
Lol well you wouldn't be wrong in that regard either my friend. There's a facts about thoughty2 video on his channel and his channel name is inspired by Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
As a Spaniard I'm thoroughly and unironically enjoying hearing this lad butchering names whenever they come across. Not an easy task guessing the pronounciation of old spanish names, man
Actually the Bermuda triangle does mess with compasses, I have gone fishing in it many times and at least 2 of those times our compas started going wild.
I know this probably isn't how the exchange went down but I refuse to picture the discussion between him and the gov officials as anything other than "Hey that's ours" "Ok" "You shouldn't have it" "Ok" "So you should -" "I should put it back where you guys had it before so you can find it." "..." "Oh, you can't. That's why I have it and you don't."
Hm... The emeralds were taken from Colombia but Tucker says that the cross should stay were it belongs. Wouldn't that be the country from where the emeralds came from? Oh well, it was a nice thing he did anyway.
I didn't know this story at all, but as soon as he said he gave the cross to the Bermuda government for "safekeeping" I knew it would eventually get stolen for sure
He sold it to the Ambassador for 200,000 as long as she kept it known only to a few. Then he sold the replica!!! He knew that sooner than later the truth will come out so it was him who called out the fake upon the Queen's visit!!!! What else you guys wanna know??? I will answer two more questions!!
if I ever find anything as valuable as that I would 100% sell it to some rich person, not only for the money, but also because people of means are a hell of a lot more responsible than any government agency full of people who don't really give a sh*t.
@@snowbird1381 - exactly-it would be soo cool just to have it and people are thinking it would be a senseless crime with no personal gain lol I would wanma be buried with it so people could find it in my “tomb” centuries later lol
The world goverment is trying to cover it up by saying that this is the most valuable treasure. What are they thinking? Whitebeard already told all of us that the One Piece exists!
Even if it's less "poetic", you should think about yourself first before the honour/history of your country, he had the equivalent of a winner lottery ticket and threw it away.
The fact that the government tried to take it from him,and he threatened to throw it in the ocean is pure gold.
Gold and emeralds*
he SHOULD have thrown it back.. those greedy bastards
thanks for spoiling 👍
@@teo3470 maybe don't read the comments before watching the video? The comments are for discussing the video lol
@@invisiblecxnt9599 I mean ever since TH-cam added the comment preview I can see how it could spoil the video for them.
Gosh that’s so disappointing, that cross is gorgeous. I hope they find it again one day! Probably just sitting in someone’s safe atm.
Imagine your parents dying and you find this in their safe
Windsor Castle is it's location.
its not in my safe i keep it in my........ooops, i mean whats a cross?
@@sgthaggis1448 how do you know?
Tucker: I have the rarest emerald found in a shipwreck
Villager: 5 wheat, take it or leave it
Well a bundle of wheat in the 1600s in Europe was worth the same as 1 pound of silver coinage lol
Underrated comment
12 bamboo
1 carrot
5 magic beans.
The fact this man spent his time doing what he loved and and finding artifacts of old only for it to have been stolen is seriously so sad. That made sad hearing that man had his work stolen. He seemed like such a sweet and nice guy.
That's because you value... value over loving what you do in life.
He didn't care about the cross, other than having it proudly put on his home island after they told him how special it was.
The more likely thing is that he was proud of all the findings, no matter the value and lived a happy life either way.
@@Schmorgus no actually I could give less than two shits about the value. It’s sad to me the time spent to even find the art, preserving it for the world but showing it off bc he’s proud not of the object but the adventure and fun he had finding it. The object matters to me very little, I’m sad to see this man do what he loves only to have that physical reminder of his adventure has been stolen.
@@EthanDoezYT the adventure is still there 🤷🏻♂️ for him.
The moral of the story is, "When you find something of value, sell it, if you don't it will be taken anyway".
Sad but true.
Taken to the Smithsonian for 'safekeeping...'
Along with whatever you found :-p
Yeah I've always found it weird when people find something valuable and then tell people only for that to happen.
@@nukiesduke6868 ye its so fkd up :/
Or simply keep it hidden to yourself.
Imagine the grandchild of the thief that stole the emerald cross watching this while the cross is just chillin in the china cabinet downstairs
Ups 😬
😆
Actually its hanging on my wall. Adds more pazaz than the china cabinets. 👍✨
Tucker: Finds the most valuable treasure in history.
The Government of Bermuda:
Hippity Hoppity this is now my property.
There is a little known law that dates back a few hundred years called Treasure Trove which pronounced all items found in Bermuda like that as property of the King or Queen at that time.. The cross came under this law which has not to my knowledge been rescinded or updated. Tucker's Cross is still unrecovered and likely in someone's private collection.
@@barrygibbons2722 True but he handle it well, if it is your it is up to you to find it good luck lol
The Government : "What's mine is mine, what's yours also mine.."
I live in the British Channel Islands and was once a brief member of our local metal detecting group, at one meeting in the pub myself and my mate were invited to go and detect a field with these guys who were chasing a legend, we politely declined as we were having fun detecting the beaches, and to be honest, thought they were chasing a ghost.
Fast forward a week or two, they found what they'd spent thirty years or so looking for, turned out to be the largest Celtic hoard ever discovered.
The Government has laid claim to it, the coin that I was handed (just to look at) was valued at £700, and there was a pile about 1x5x5m, with gold torques and stuff mixed in.
I've always regretted not taking them up on their offer to detect that field,
If you're reading this Reg, I hope it works out for you guys, 🤜🤛
Shp96 They took if straight away, as soon as they made the find the field was cordoned-off and put under 24 hour police guard while expert archaeologists finished removing the hoard, then it was taken to the local museum where it was slowly and meticulously taken apart and cleaned piece by piece, if I remember right it took over a year for them to do that, you could visit the museum and watch them working through a screen, one moment and I'll dig up some articles on it 👍
I was born and raised in Bermuda and remember as a young boy in the early 70's taking a school field trip to the BDA Aquarium and seeing the display of Tucker's cross. Also the story of how it was a replica and the original was stolen. I had forgotten about it until I saw this video.
Well, it's fairly certain that the Tuckers cross is at the hands of a collector by now. So probably not lost, but merely hidden until revealed again in the future. And it will probably increase tenfold in price too.
Least the saving grace is the cross is worth more in one piece, the ingots and coins and countless other artifacts like that are more than likely melted down
My money is on it being at Windsor Castle in someones jewelry box. Just a hunch.
@@RR98guy interesting...
Its better for the cross to be not found theyre would be to much suspects and to much innocent people would get punished
If it is ever revealed to the public, it would 100% go back to the museum by international law. That person would lose the artifact and the money he spent on it.
Man, I really just love all of your vids.
The rythm, the pacing, the subject, the flow, the editing, the random lines, the trivial know.
Entertaining storytelling, but even more is the mustache though.
I even heard several awesome rapline starters in your vids. Crisp structures. Really taken on a journey!
Also what a story! Teddy Tucker, the human fishman
A man of adventure and principle.
Cutting that 200k offer to maintain the history rather than a private collector was really admirable.
Should have given it back to Columbia ....
Maybe he gave the museum a fake and put the cross back after all knowing what would become of it.
@@LeeClasen Columbians didn't make the cross they just mined the rocks, if any country had a claim it would've been Spain.
@@LeeClasen so a Colombian could steal it? You think it’s a safe country?
10:28 - Thank you, Thoughty2. I cannot explain how happy it made me to hear an _Englishman_ use "dove", instead of "dived".
As an aspiring Englishman author, I strongly agree.
Lesson : Just sell for best price to private collectors, because through payment to the finder or payment to master thief, it will end up in the same place.
Sad to say but it was probably stripped of the emeralds and melted down.
NO, the person who hired that thief, also hired him immediate transportation off that island. The last thing that collector would do is strip it down to it's bare elements !
Exactly, jewels are worth way more in jewelry, probably sitting in some billionaire's art collection
@@MrHeyman333 If some stupid hoodlum stole it by chance, then yes, it would... But that's very unlikely, as upon learning of the existence of the jewelry many more people would want it than it would be apparent, and they probably get whatever they want anyways...
exactly what i thought!
no matter what it will still end up with private collector, so why loose money?
Lone this vid! I’ve been to Bermuda twice and got married at Stonehole Bay. The island is incredible. Palaces like Bora Bora and the GBR are far better diving but the charm of Bermuda is undeniable.
In from the Washington DC area. 1.5 hour flight and your there. Guest houses can be rented for pennies on the dollar from the large resorts. My fav was in Spanish Point. A lovely couple and their dog, Bully made this stay magical. 20 yards ot the greenest grass led me to the cliffs down to a private cove and swimming beach. Amazing snorkeling and exploring. Elbow beach, Horseshoe and the like are amazing but privacy is easily available. An amazing 3 day trip can easily be done!
Plot twist: That ambassador was like hell nah im getting my hands on this, now praise this plastic fraud instead.
@Perth Sites 100 yrs later it will be revealed and will be fixed in the crown.
Could be a theory that the ambassador stole it in some way after being rejected, considering how much she wanted the cross...
Just American things to do.....
What if it was plastic the whole time
@@Razer5542 Claire Luce was not a jewel thief, she was a very interesting person however.
I looked up the Muzo mines and the conquistadors in Colombia, and learned a lot. Many thanks, Thoughty2. I particularly liked 'what's mine is mine, including your mines', to ineptly summarise. When you conclude - another unsolved mystery in the Devil's triangle, it is like the end of a poetic film, a sigh from the same part of Ongeland that I'm from. I am currently lobbying a thankless family for an Xmas pressie of your flaggy stick book. I'm not an adolescent wide-eyed over an atlas, resulting in a sticky flag book. Takk.
Let's agree that thoughty's moustache is the most priceless treasure of all.
Just shutup bro
Ok but, first , let's agree that his lame attempts at humor are worthless !
@@painelarson no
@@painelarson He makes me laugh when I least expect it
Cute too. 😷👍🏻
You’re a TH-cam treasure sir. Thank you for all your work!
I like how he photoshops one of the ships from Flameheart's fleet in Sea of Thieves onto realistic-looking water. I applaud the resourcefulness.
THANK GOD THERE IS ANOTHER PERSON WHO KNOWS THIS. I have respect for the effort, but dude... I was shocked to see this thumbnail
The end of this story just breaks my heart :(
I was thinking the same. Sick to my stomach people can be like that.
You do know most think it was ted that took it.
Ah yes, emeralds and cocaine, that's the might of my homeland.
Breakfast of champions
How much cocaine and emeralds do you keep in your kitchen cupboard, usually?
At least cocaine doesn’t take millions of years to produce
@@goawayihavecommentstomake1488 none bc almost all of that is exported for people who actually consume/use it lmao
Hey! I'd snort Jade but the supply chain is crap.
Anyone else expecting a burst into song "I'm a lumberjack... and its okay?
Don’t be a misandrist!
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
“That belongs in a museum!”
“So do you!”
dr. who?
@@worldprop4314 Dr.Jones!
I see you are also cultured......
"Throw 'em over the side!"
Reminded me of One Piece. Even fish people are in this tale lmao. Nice vid as always!
So a British Monarch got interested in a particular country's jewels and precious metals and they were subsequently never seen again?
I'm shocked I tell you!
I came here just to suggest that she may have something to do with it, perhaps insiders working under her helping to steal it
Maybe the English "colonized" the national treasure 🤔
Royals nicked it like everything else.
RIP Queen Elizabeth
We know by historical facts that we queen says "I want this", they get it
As much as you might like her, it's a plausible theory, and I don't care how good you thought she was, of course in the case they did stole it they wouldn't confess (royal family scandals try to be avoided)
What makes jewelry thieves the worst of all thieves is the fact that you can’t actually sell it after you steal it. Because anyone with a brain can identify pieces like that instantly it means the thieves have to strip the jewels and melt down the gold and sell them individually for a much smaller amount than the whole thing together was worth.
It can't be sold on a regular market, ever heard of a black market? Plenty of rich people willing to pay for a pretty artifact whether or not it was stolen or not.
Yeah, things of that nature have to be fenced through certain people to whom have ties to private collectors that would pay handsomely and also keep it hidden but be just a satisfied with it not even being seen.
@@Jay-oj3qs
Bruh you don’t seem to get it. First off, you’re assuming the guy who stole the cross has connections to people with hundreds of millions of dollars because he can’t exactly just put it up for sale and hope one bites. Second, that cross was worth so much money that if you’re caught with it you’re going to lose hundreds of millions of dollars and decades of your life for grand larceny charges. I’m sure there are Rich guys who would buy it, but it’s implausible to assume that the thief has the means to fence that item and expect to get full price for it. In general, ripping the stones out and melting the gold is far easier to do and carries little risk. Once he has the stones independently he can sell them to pretty much anyone because of how difficult it would be to identify them, and once the gold is melted down it’s literally impossible to tell it was the cross, so in general, it’s just not practical to steal and sell something like that unless you already had a buyer lined up prior to you stealing it, and that’s just so unlikely that it’s almost guaranteed that the cross was stripped and melted.
@@Useless22 How is that implausible exactly? Multiple people attempted to buy it and were rejected.
Either they had a buyer lined up or were hired by someone to steal it. They took the time to make a replica to give themselves as much time as possible to move the real one, and it worked for several years.
The tiny amount of gold and few emeralds in this cross are worth a bit sure, but the whole thing together is greater than the sum of it's parts.
A team who had the skill set to create a very convincing forgery and steal it without being detected could have just gone after solid gold bars, which would be worth 100x as much after being melted.
@@Jay-oj3qs
They tried to buy it legally not illegally. Like I said, there is too much risk involved for all parties in trying to sell it as it is, hence why it was likely stripped and melted.
Sea of Thieves in the thumbnail, nice
Glad I’m not the only one to notice. I was very confused
Yaas
Sea
*sea
Ngl I thought that was what this was in about for a second
10:00
MOST treasure hunters would have stayed until after the storm, as a storm in shallow waters like that will move the pieces of ship (and the sand) around potentially revealing stuff unseen in the previous 6 days.
*The queen stole it. That cross is in London right now.*
source?
@@EnergyOfQi
*I saw her, with professor peanut, and colonel mustard. They were wearing ski masks but you could tell it was them because they forgot to change shoes.*
@@maxsteel8031 well that's all the evidence I need. 👍
@@choughed3072
*If we get it back, I'm sure there's a reward, I'll check under the bed, you check her drawers.*
The whole reason for the queen going there was because it would be moved and that was a great diversion
Just like many stories about humans, this one too is about greed.
Lesson of the story:
Don't be a moral fool like Teddy, take the money and live your life.
Fr
Things weren't all sunshine and bunny rabbits for Jack and Diane, either!
Or just keep quiet about it and have it be a secret. Also taking the money is stupid as well.
I'm pretty sure Teddy has had a pretty exciting life, maybe his morals are just better?
Most people share the same priorities. But you're a fool, if you expect an oddball to relate to you. A normal person would have never found that treasure in the first place. Secondly, he could have double-dipped. I find it hard to believe that a plastic imitation went unnoticed for years. It was most likely stolen on that day. And the person raising a stink about smelling a fart is the one to let it out in the first place. It's also likely the queen left with a souvenir.
I’m thinking the queen had something to do with it. As soon as she heard of Spanish gold, she must’ve said, “that belongs to England!” Let’s remember now, that the English stole a lot of gold from the Spanish back in the day
You’d think they would have super high security like with people guarding ONE OF THE MOST VALUED TREASURES 24/7
With this vid... we know what it looks like... So there's that.
Given the “All Clear” then it sinks. Well done that man.
Late 2020: Love the reference to insurance companies hiking premiums. With the barrage of personal insurance commercials, it's equivalent to "death and taxes"
Imagine just helping your grandfather clean out his attic and finding Tucker’s Cross like “Hey Grandpa, whats this?” “Oh thats one of the world’s most valuable treasures that I stole before the Queen of England could see it”
It would be nice to follow up with a video on the city Port Royal , once called the most wicked city on earth, filled with pirates
Port Royal was the first thing I thought of when he said in the Bermuda Triangle there are no “lost, sunken cities...” Port Royal might still be there, but the old, fun, Sodom & Gomorrah-ey city is literally sunk right off the coast.
Two months after Arran posted this video, he did just that; it''s called "Why is There a City Full of Dead Pirates on the Ocean Floor?"
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"For every lucky lad who suddenly became rich; there's countless other lads who have been responsible for relieving the lucky lad of his fortune!"
(Ancient proverb)
The Museums take most treasures and leave them locked away never to be
seen again! Trust me on this as I am a detectorist that has seen many
treasures lost under the process of cataloguing and identifying. Great
Video once again T2! Anything to do with treasure and mysteries always
gets me!
So...they hide it so they can't make money with it? Sounds like a stable plan!
Lies and you guys are the bane of archaeology.
until the museum and the back market reach a stable agreement, things will be like this. however both hold to their own.. one foolishly says the treasure belongs to the museum and has no need to pay the finder.. and one is finders keepers.. I suggest a compromise. collective greed or individual greed same thing.. everybody wants to eat.. also many museum do indeed steal their own treasures to sell it to the black market anyway :)))
What’s a US ambassador doing with that much money buying jewelry, that’s the real question...
She was indepently wealthy, a playwirght succesful author and also a rich husband way before she was ambassador. She gave most of it to education after she died.
Most ambassadors are already wealthy and prestigious people. Who exactly do you think we want representing us in a foreign land?
Here's how this works:
You donate at least a few hundred thousand, usually million+ to the Republican or Democratic institutions and say you are interested in an ambasadorial position. If your guy/gal wins, you have a good chance to join the USA's diplomatic mission.
A person isn't rich because they are an ambassador. A person is an ambassador because they are rich.
I just appreciate this man for giving us all of this knowledge and keeping it entertaining at the same time. Thank you thoughty2
What a legend Mr. Tucker was/is selfless patriot. Respect. love your content Mr. T'
And the moral of this story is - TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN when they give you a good offer!
Unless your moral is different.
@@hexadecimal7300 fuck morals! Look what happened to my boi Ted!
BOY IF I AM OFFERED MORE THAN 100 DOLLARS FOR SMTH THE HELL I WILL TAKE IT!
(as long as it's put in a museum or smth)
I beg to differ. I am an avid and experienced sailor, and yes there is a magnetic anomaly in the proximity of the Bermuda triangle. I have experienced it several times in my life.
I constantly wonder... when he turns 42 will he actually say "42 here" XD
Liz turns up and gems go missing. That actually seems like a common theme among the highest quality gems in the world and British royalty. Has anyone checked the Tower of London to see if a golden cross with 5 emeralds on it has inexplicably turned up?
Ohh wow.. Tucker found my cross. I knew I dropped it somewhere. I should thank him and of course reclaim my property.
Always love a good treasure story.
Good one T2!
even after all these amazing discoveries teddy has never seen two pretty best friends.
Mother Theresa reused needles and denied patients pain meds because, “pain gets you closer to god,” then took pain meds when she was dying.
Where did you get this info
@@starfox8006 it’s not hard to find
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I learned it from an indian Jesuit priest who taught theology at my university. I checked, and it's true. Mother Theresa was a faud. People have send her money bc they thought she was helping the sick and the dying. In reality, most of the money went to missionary work, converting pple to Catholicism. Dying people were kept in horrific conditions and denied meds. She also have been accused by many of converting unconscious patients to Catholicism.
She is full on "white savior".
Yeah, she would tell suffering and dying children, that more they suffered pain, the closer they got to heaven. But she rarely spent any time in her orphanages themselves, in fact she could barely speak the local dialect of the Indian people, where she claimed to have spent her whole life. She spent most of her time at charity event parties, fundraising dinners, and reward banquets, rubbing elbows with celebrities, politicians and royalty.
Beware the cry "But, it's for the children!"
I remember that incident. The whole island seemed to be shocked. Teddy Tucker was himself suspected. My stepfather was involved with that investigation being a detective Inspector in the Bermuda Police force, in charge of the Criminal Records Office and he was the only person on the Island at that time that came anywhere near to being qualified as a forensic scientist. He was also at that time, the official island escort for all Royalty and Presidents who visited Bermuda.
Sup Barry😊
It is amazing how many Galleons and other vessels crossed the Atlantic and the Pacific during Spanish rule. Those Galleons were heavy ships capable of carrying huge loads. This made them easy victims of storms and pirates.
On Mindoro Philippines is a natural port called Puerto Galera. The name says it all. The Spanish ships frequently waited there for the right season to cross the Pacific.
I met a professional diver who was part of an official archeological expedition. He explained the dangers of depth and currents exploring the wrecks in the waters surrounding the island. Only the bravest and toughest succeed in going down there, recording the wrecks and rescuing the treasurs and artifacts. It is more a dangerous job than an adventure.
Every Silver Peso minted in the Philippines came from Mexican and other Latin American mines. The Spanish ships carried silk, Chinese porcellan, ivory, gems and all the other riches Asia had to offer over the Pacific to Acapulco. There the crews received their payment in silver and gold. This silver and gold was brought westward to the Philippines. There are many sunken ships in the Philippines as well. Typhons and other disasters let many ships sink. The waters in the western Pacific often get very deep very quickly. This is an obstacle of rescuing those treasures.
The valuable cargo out of Asia was transported on land from Acapulco Mexico and elsewhere to Yucatan. There it was loaded on Galleons going towards Spain. That is one of the reasons why there are so many wrecks of Spanish ships in the Carribbean.
I was born to drink myself stupid and philosophize the nature of humanity.
No, you weren't.
Alcoholism is A KILLER. I Know. I Have Family who have succumbed to it's deathly grips. You must know that I myself have struggled greatly with alcoholism and IT IS NOT, whatsoever in control. YOU are in Control, You determine Your Fate With Alcoholism if You Know it afflicts You
Don't preach guys. Not everyone ends up face down in a gutter. Alcohol is one of humanity's oldest inventions. The builders of the pyramids were paid in beer, according to some of those little clay tablets with funky writing they found in the area. Alcohol has it's place in society. The key is moderation, just like anything else in life.
@@thememoryhole9355 Including, at times, moderation itself.
@@chadthomasriggs Indeed.
See, that is why bureaucracy is important. A theft like that wouldn't have happened in the UK, it would have had to be a lot more elaborate than just changing out a plastic replica for the real one.
Besides, if I were chris tucker, I would have not let go off that cross.
your work rate has been insane lately
Nah, just a trade off of quantity over quality.
to be fair, the fact that the artifact got stolen is more reassuring that the Queen getting to see it.
I’m been subbed to this channel for more than two years and every time he started the video saying,”hey, thoughty2 here” I always heard it as “hey, 42 here.” I just assumed he really liked the Hitman games or something. 😅 not until 3 mins ago when I read the channel’s name out loud that it hit me. 🤣🤣
Lol well you wouldn't be wrong in that regard either my friend. There's a facts about thoughty2 video on his channel and his channel name is inspired by Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
The whole gist here is that 42 is the answer to everything.
Sells the most valuable artifacts to the museum by turning down an offer several times higher. Ends up stolen without a trace. Biggest insult ever
Thoughty, i hope they use you to replace David Attenborough! You have the best speaking voice for history and animal documentaries!
I second that 🔥
@Yusuf Eltalkhawy no thanks. I like a little brains with my viewing choices
Agreed
Nice profile pic
Chances are, the artifact is a Luce heirloom still - as it was since before the Queen's visit...
the most important treasure ever found: *the wi-fi password*
Laughs in an unlimited data plan
New member here, well worth it. This channel rocks.
I love this guy and his channel. I can watch him all day.
42, love your channel mate. You're hilarious! I subscribed.
17:52 "or even a single suspect.."
Pans to pic of Queen Elizabeth! 🤣🤣
As a Spaniard I'm thoroughly and unironically enjoying hearing this lad butchering names whenever they come across. Not an easy task guessing the pronounciation of old spanish names, man
Nice that you did video about my country and it's history Thoughty2
These rumours are getting ridiculous now
A octopus is a alien
What about squid?
*an* alien
If anything on this earth is an alien than it would be, IMO, a squid or octopus.
I mean besides obviously Mark Zuckerberg...
@@danieljak2784 Mark is just a friendly robot
Actually the Bermuda triangle does mess with compasses, I have gone fishing in it many times and at least 2 of those times our compas started going wild.
Everyone’s ‘First!’ until they refresh...
I actually can't believe I made it to a video 3 mins after uploading. What a strange, lovely day.
@@lunaballuna I was 5 mins
you guys should learn to let go
LOL! yep!
5th century fox
Lol what a boss move from tucker to say he'll put the cross back where he found it so the government can search it itself.
" What's mine is mine "
" What's yours is also mine "
" Including your mines "
This definitely describes every colonizer in history.
One of the most beautiful relic... stolen and may have been melted just for the gold and the emerald extracted to be sold and reshape.
If it was stolen by international professional art thieves it was more likely sold at a black market auction for a lot more money.
13:05 You forgot to mention Minecraft Villagers
I know this probably isn't how the exchange went down but I refuse to picture the discussion between him and the gov officials as anything other than
"Hey that's ours"
"Ok"
"You shouldn't have it"
"Ok"
"So you should -"
"I should put it back where you guys had it before so you can find it."
"..."
"Oh, you can't. That's why I have it and you don't."
The fellas at oak island would kill for this guys career lol 😂
Somewhere out there somebody has this priceless cross it’s so crazy to think about
This is like the perfect voice and facts to listen to before dinner 👍👍
Its the morning
it's breakfast time here in Las Vegas!
I just want to point out that compasses do malfunction in the Bermuda triangle but I am not suggesting it has anything to do with disappearances.
plot twist: Mother Teresa was an absolute monster of a person.
@alphadawn2015 lennon Did you watch the video?
Yes she was.
thou shall not judge
she was in it for a second loll
she actually was .. read "Missionary Position" by Christopher Hitchens .. she was evil through and through
That was a wonderful tale. Thank you Thoughty 2
Mother Teresa is not the saint the Catholic church has made her out to be. Just ask Christopher Hitchens.
The Ghoul of Calcutta 😎
Hm... The emeralds were taken from Colombia but Tucker says that the cross should stay were it belongs. Wouldn't that be the country from where the emeralds came from?
Oh well, it was a nice thing he did anyway.
"The ocean can be a dangerous place" and it's extra dangerous when a ship is being operated beyond it's engineering limits.
Teddy is one of those people whose name you don't know but when you see a picture you exclaim "Ohhhh! That guy!" 🤣🤣🤣
Him? I allways have that with... whats his name?
*looks at thumbnail*
ah yes, the worlds most expensive treasure is inside a Flameheart gallion
Surely so, fellow pirate.
I didn't know this story at all, but as soon as he said he gave the cross to the Bermuda government for "safekeeping" I knew it would eventually get stolen for sure
"Digging through brain coral in his undies" omg 😹😂
He sold it to the Ambassador for 200,000 as long as she kept it known only to a few. Then he sold the replica!!! He knew that sooner than later the truth will come out so it was him who called out the fake upon the Queen's visit!!!! What else you guys wanna know??? I will answer two more questions!!
if I ever find anything as valuable as that I would 100% sell it to some rich person, not only for the money, but also because people of means are a hell of a lot more responsible than any government agency full of people who don't really give a sh*t.
There is some validity to this.
I straight up just wouldn’t tell anyone. Not a damn soul. I’ll tell the devil before I tell any government official.
@@snowbird1381 - exactly-it would be soo cool just to have it and people are thinking it would be a senseless crime with no personal gain lol I would wanma be buried with it so people could find it in my “tomb” centuries later lol
Shit.... 6:45... Monster Therese? Helping the sick? Ouch.
Maybe the most valuable treasure we ever found was the friendship we made along the way
this is the cringiest shit ive read today. and i was watching horrible youtube shorts earlier
@@chuckplaysgames7925 big talk coming from a man with that user name and profile pic, besides I was doing a thing called "joking around"
teddy stole his own treasure
and hid it back in the ocean till he needed it
“It belongs in a museum!” Mr Jones.
12:18
This is why I love this channel.
Among other reasons of course!
*Reads title* ,
"So *One Piece* lied to me!?"
The world goverment is trying to cover it up by saying that this is the most valuable treasure. What are they thinking? Whitebeard already told all of us that the One Piece exists!
They gave it to queen Elizabeth... she has a emerald crown that has gems way to large to be mined during her rain
" should have sold it to the rich old lady " 😄👍👍🇺🇸
Even if it's less "poetic", you should think about yourself first before the honour/history of your country, he had the equivalent of a winner lottery ticket and threw it away.
man when you upload a history video it seems like i'm watching a movie. You deserve a 10m subs!
agree
The most important treasure ever found was time.
clown
@@patmustard8795 👌
I can definitely say that diving in Bermuda is unlike anywhere else I’ve ever been.