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Perhaps the real treasure was the hole we dug along the way...
Big hole is life
👏lol, congrats
Hole piece
😂😂
@Plank Scale depends on what type of hole it is
I'm pretty certain the treasure has already been found long ago, and the person who got it was bright enough not to tell anyone.
Yea or who ever hid it came back for it.
I would've at least given some anonymous note as to the fact that it did exist to put people's minds at ease
@@erihgioqe3798 I'd have left something too. Maybe a mild taunt such as "You're looking in the right place, but have arrived too late. Better luck next time."
@@antonsimmons8519 or a tablet saying that gold is burried 10 feet below. Spoiler alert, I already got it
Samuel Ball managed to find some perhaps
Kidd's real treasure is the amusement he gets from every person who starts digging again. He's probably got a couch setup with a bowl of popcorn where he puts his feet up to have a good laugh
I visited Nova Scotia a few years back! I wasn't actively treasure hunting but I found some anyway. The beautiful nature, great seafood and wonderful, friendly people. Love you guys!
Wow
@@floatinggoose9197 😂
So gae
Anyone else have the feeling this may have all started because someone dug a small hole then left it due to the rain, then someone else dug up that hole to figure out why that patch of earth was disturbed, then the next person with the same brilliant idea thought that “well if someone dug a hole it must be for an important reason”....and here we all are several brilliant ideas later on an epic adventure to understand the meaning of the hole
with a lot of random rumors surrounding it making it more believable
or its just a very deep pit toilet
Man’s quest to find answers continues lol
hhahahaha totally
😂🤣
You had your chance to drag this out for 10 years or so, but I guess the history Channel already did that. Thanks for condensing the story into a manageable time frame.
Well hes WRONG on a LOT of levels. There has been FAR too much stuff found in relation to the pit to NOT have something major there. The Engineered channels were natural effects? Sorry..I dont see many fekking PALM TREES AROUND NS to provide the coconut fibers they have actually FOUND in buried channels there...EXPLAIN THAT!! WHY go to the effort it took to place those...for nothing? No way. Gotta be a REASON. But WHAT?? Thats the real "Treasure" to be found.
Is that show still on??? 😲
@@-Zer0Dark- It is and I still watch it with my parents.
@@ExiledBowser So you're the one...
This is the hole that doesn't end, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started digging it not knowing what it was.... now they'll continue digging it forever just because This is the hole that doesn't end...
It's amazing that none of the excavators seems to have consulted with a geologist, who might illuminate them on the concepts of water table levels, soil movement and migration and the issues with digging close to the coast.
And assuming that 18th century pirates had the engineering know-how and tools to build that floodong channel "booby trap" is also insane. ^^
The current expedition is availing themselves of every scientific method available they're not just pulling ideas about where to look/dig out of their rear ends!
If that area is prone to sinkholes, isn’t it possible that the wood/coins/jewelry were just pieces of the treasure that was originally buried a reasonable depth, but then a sinkhole opened up underneath it and scattered the bits?
As a person who lives in a coastal region that's at sea level my first thought upon hearing that they started digging as deep as they could on a fairly small island was "I'm surprised the hole didn't flood." Now having seen what happened next I'm just confused as to why everyone was apparently surprised that it flooded. Seriously, what did they expect?
foreal... are water tables really that deep on islands?
With evidence of sinkholes being common occurrences nearby. All the stuff we found as we dug may very well just be stuff that went down a sinkhole that formed in that spot
@@susear5939 Yep. Or the result of multiple, repeated sinkholes occurring after previous sinkholes were lost to memory.
I didn’t know that 🧍🏾♀️
yeah its like those dumb jerks didn't understand what above water level ment XD---
Wooaaoo so if I dig in sand close to the OCEAN it can come in water. I thought sand was water proof XD.. hehe ;D
The problem with buried treasure, most especially when it's buried in a constantly flooding pit, is that it becomes *sunken treasure,* which makes Captain Kidd's buried treasure the ultimate *sunk-costs fallacy.*
Lmaooo I love it
The term Money Pit was also prescient.
I think Samuel Ball found whatever was there and stayed mum on it. I also never believed it was 120+ft down with flood traps.
I am intrigued about the 2 different bone fragments they found deep down and the very old Templar style lead cross on the beach, that is more interesting IMO. Something went on there with the old docks they found. No doubt not treasure related, could be more from the English making a launch point during the Revolutionary War.
Nova Scotian here. My father was offered multiple jobs on oak island because, of his profession. Also my grandfather adores Oak island. It makes my happy to see one of my favorite it TH-camrs talk about my province.
nothing compared to the hole ive spent the last 20 yrs of my life digging myself into
And that hole has no bottom
Amen brother amen...good luck to us
May you uncover yourself. And if not, maybe someone else will.
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One of the biggest challenges: Dig a hole as deep as the deepest depression can reach
I live in the neighbouring province to Nova Scotia, very nice to see a story so close to home on this wonderful channel. As for the treasure, I think it is an ingenious way to increase tourism.
I'm from nova scotia and this video made me happy to see we don't hear much about nova scotia
Im from NS too and this made me very happy!
Im from ns bud
He says "neighboring province" he really means he's from Alberta and wanted an opinion
Fake, you’re from Maine
This is a really great video. I'm glad you went into the supposed existence of the planks and stone tablet, highlighting how they've 'disappeared' and if they can't be found then they're really just another part of the legend.
Great work Thoughty2. I've been watching you for years.
I read the Reader's Digest Story at the same time the Lagina brothers did. Wanted to go and get radical on the island and dig it out. I'm following this closely still.
The biggest mystery is how the Discovery channel managed to get so many series out of people finding absolutely nothing so far! 😂
Discovering the will to discover
Jesus loves you alot trust in His death 4 salvation and be saved from eternal hell
@@Fit4C saved from hell. That god created. That god sends you to. That god could choose not to send you to.
A little extra context and you realize god made a torture dungeon for no other reason than he wanted it. He liked it.
Unless things happen that god doesnt want to happen its very clear to me he wants most people to suffer for eternity and designed a system to ensure that "small and narrow is the road"
Its really sick if you step back and look at the system and who has the power to change it.
They found a lot of ruins, old port, old tools, tunnels.
Historical worth is actually there. Which is pretty cool.
They fkn names the goddamn shit
This here: "We've been leaving our crap around" got me laughing. Can you imagine in 1000 years people digging up some Pokemon figures and cards somewhere and trying to make sense why people were worshiping monsters.
“Wait, they had weird looking yellow monsters that shoot electricity? Man they had it hard”
😂👍
"Imagine a dragon breathing fire" 😂
DRAGONITE ! ! !
@@sadist8902 I would like to know what kind of religion they will spin out of the Meme Stone block in south america. Don't know where it is exactly.
THANK YOU for saving us all from a very long, drawn out, cliffhanger-ridden netflix series that arrived at this same conclusion.
Did no one stop to think he came back for his treasure dug the hole grabbed it and refilled it and left ? I mean come y’all. Haha
Its more likely that only one person knew the trick to not setting off the traps, and he died.
The Curse of Oak Island show is still going on. Recent seasons have had pit water tests with gold and silver results in the money pit area and other evidence (hundreds of years old cut tunnel timbers and more). Archeologically speaking they've also uncovered gravel road system, the swamp near the pit showing evidence that it was most likely a ship mooring spot for unloading/loading cargo and various other things. Not to say the show doesnt sensationalize but it does mean the activity on the island certainly was more than once otherwise believed.
There is gold in bedrock all along Nova Scotia so the tests they are doing is pointless, I’d of thought the people didn’t bury the gold but pulled it from the ground as they was gold miners! The shaft they dug was a mine shaft!
@@br4d101 The quantities was far above anything naturally occurring sources could provide.
I have yet to see a single piece of actual evidence that couldnt be easily explained by 200+ years of activity digging on that island. Not one.
I've not missed an episode of this show, I am hooked.
I think the most impressive find is all the work they found out off the coast around the water tunnels, that's a lot of work being done there for some reason...
What I don't understand is why they don't stop these bore holes when they reach these cavities, they find a big void 150 feet down but havnt once mentioned stopping the dig and putting a camera down to see what the void is and I'd really like to know why they aren't interested in them.
The dude digging is a shit head. My boyfriend's god family owned a home on oak Island for YEARS. neighbor (aka shit head) signed up for the TV show, God fam didn't. Neighbor then spend a couple years harrassing and abusing the God Family until they felt so threatened they basically gave them the land. Now he gets hella money from letting the show run there, and he doesn't deserve any of it - especially considering the treasure was not even rumoured to be located on the God Families side of the island. They're very lovely people, so they have never made a stink of it. Their eldest daughter is getting married in a few months, and she's a bit heartbroken over the fact that she can't use their old property on oak Island as it was always her dream to get married there.
Here's a hot take, assuming the stories are true: The pirates came back, dug up the treasure (removing the plank lids to inspect it, before moving it to chests) and they dropped the plaque at the bottom of the hole and refilled it, assuming nobody would ever discover it.
Sounds reasonable
Yes.
Another option is that the supposed treasure has turned into dust. literally.
I am curious if the plaque was mis-read, translated incorrectly. Plus it's lost so are we really sure we have it correct?
Or someone carved and planted the stone plaque to inspire exhausted men to keep digging a little more.
Let's imagine that the cryptographic stone did exist and was deciphered correctly. It was found in a sink hole, so maybe it started out at the surface and the treasure started out ten feet below but who knows how deep it could be now... if it was ever there to begin with.
To even think that anyone would bury treasure that deep is just ludicrous and insane. I think it's just a myth that fooled a lot of greedy people who ran out of money trying to find it, the joke is on them.
they might have even found the sinkhole open, and just been like "hells yea predug hole" then it filled in after they left.
@@MrSquishles If I was trying to hide something I don't think I'd put it in a hole I believe someone else dug.
hello from Nova Scotia! what a pleasant surprise to come across a bit of local folklore from my favourite video-doc youtuber
Ironically, it's pretty likely that most of the finds which have come out of OI originated from previous excavation parties. It's a bit like a self-fulfilling prophecy, enough time and effort digging there will eventually lead to a fortune in discarded and lost stuff from all those previous visits, thus creating the very horde those people are looking for. Personally I find it hilarious, and oddly serves as a good abstract definition for all of human endeavour, spend long enough doing something pointless and you might learn something valuable.
I think you somehow invented and wrote the explanation for the very recently discovered ‘Oak Island Paradox’
daayayyyyyaaaaammmmmmm!
there is evidence of big stuff happening long before any treasure hunt there has started
The current search is applying scientifically accurate dating methods to each and every find to eliminate that possibility!
As a Canadian, I love this legend, whether true or not.
Same
@@aidoom6157 as an American I love it too I believe something was there at some point I've always wanted to go out there an just see the island
it probably isn't true but was a tale sold to the second group so they would think they were lucky. the Encoded sign for example would have been placed there to make people want to dig deeper and deeper.
Same but I live on the East coast
@@si2foo one of the treasure hunters that previously owed the land became inexplicably rich and then sold it and moved away back in the 1800s. If it ever was there it was found long ago
What if the mysterious treasure shaft is actually nothing but a confined well that got abandoned when it turned out that it was salty?
The Laginas and their group have uncovered a good bit of evidence showing a previously unknown british military outpost once existed on the island, with paved roads, blacksmithing, and pretty significant ship building/repair capabilities.
Which is interesting in and of itself.
It's no longer about buried treasure, but about understanding an archaeological site
They even had paved roads?
Even if (though) there is no treasure trove, the work that the Laginas and many contributors have done has uncovered a really large amount of archeological finds. The have found stone roads, wharfs, mooring anchors, the man made swamp, wooden ship era repair facilities, and evidence of heavy industry. Much more was happening on and around Oak Island than most people know.
How old are these ruins? 12 thousand years ago the sea-level was somewhere north of 100 meters lower. And we already know based off several carbon dated dig sites AND genetic serveyes of Denisovan migration it's possible there was a seafaring civilisation long ago.
I also have a theory; that the human race has split and recombined several times over the course of our 2 million year insane brain development. Who knows how many people collected to form a world government to then disintegrate in entropy and consequently diverge the species a little bit?
After learning the physiological significance of the Bible, and a rough history of how those stories might have formed in hunter gatherer tribes, you start to appreciate your haritate a lot more. We should be investigating archeology so much more than we do know. I put it equal grounds with space travel research. We should be discussing intensely in both directions to get the best of both worlds. Past and future to inform now.
And all of that was buried in a few hundred years for unknown reasons. Looks legit. There is NO WAY they made that all up. It's a TV show, it must all be true, right?
@@DyingCr0w this has been a mystery long before it was a TV show. That fact that many of the people who spent time looking for this treasure were Free mason's, along with a lot of the evidence points more towards it being of Templar origin than pirate. This video did a good job explaining the pirate angle but that has mostly been disproven over the last few years. Much more likely that it was Templar if there is, in fact a treasure at all.
It was definitely templar origin. They were basically engineer warrior monk types. And they knew all about digging deep holes and tunnels and engineering aquaducts and so forth. They had way more knowledge to most definitely build all of that, prob more so than the deck swabbing pirates.
@@slowfudgeballs9517 To know where we're going, we have to know where we've been.
The rock is the only thing that makes me think it may have been real, but it was probably dug up already, and obviously not claimed publicly for fear of reprisals and/or long lost relatives showing up for a handout.
If there ever was a treasure, then I'm guessing the stone with the cipher was originally placed on the surface, and that the people that buried the treasure left it at the bottom of the pit after they came back to collect their treasure.
As a Nova Scotian, literally everyone knows the Oak Island treasure is a hoax. And any hole you dig on an island near the sea will fill with seawater, because dirt is porous. 😂
@@danielled8665 So why did someone go to all the trouble of building such an elaborate tunnel structure?
@@dontrend5956 th-cam.com/video/HYyjqHtRVPs/w-d-xo.html
Another perspective on the same mystery.
@@dontrend5956 shits n giggles
Errol Flynn’s problem was that he was using a square shovel. They’re no good for digging. More for shoveling loose dirt.
The stereotypical pirate accent is actually not very far from the Elizabethan English accent of the Shakespearean theater as far as vowels are concerned. You can tell by the rhymes from poetry and literature written at the time. So it's not far from how English privateers would have spoken.
This skips out on the farmer that started to buy land across the island although his crops weren't worth nearly the amount, he could have located the treasure years before
it’s just waiting for one of his great great great grandkids to find it and fulfill his legacy
He also paid for said land with gold coins,the mystery continues
.... And Samuel got very rich during his time living on the island.
I believe he was a cabbage farmer.
Samuel ball
A couple of things to consider here: He wouldn't have buried the treasure anywhere he wouldn't be able to recover it from. So 30m shafts full of water are out. And his crew are all cut-throat theives, any of whom could have left his crew after the treasure was buried and gone and retrieved it for themselves. So, no treasure on Oak Island, it's a nice yarn though.
Only treasure ever found was their TV reality show. Been a cash cow for years.
Unless he thought he was close to death and didn't want it found/claimed by anyone else after his death.
That's why he murdered his crew and buried them with the treasure, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Well, after considering that for 5 seconds its clear those points dont really hold weight. theyve found a bunch of gold pieces on sight, so clearly there is gold there, and the whole idea was that there was another enterance and that the shaft that floods is a decoy. Also your whole "He wouldn't have buried the treasure anywhere he wouldn't be able to recover it from." is just you assuming that he wouldnt be able to recover it, not backed by any logic or evidence at all.
@@MyBinaryLife Completely logical. Would you show a bunch of theives where you buried a fortune in gold and jewels? I certainly wouldn't. So if he hid it at all he would have done it on his own. One man can't hide anything too deep or in deep water etc as he would never be able to access it. Simple really. Finding gold peices on site is meaningless, they could have been dropped by anyone. They could have even been seeded there in order to suck in some "investment" money.
For those who think Captain Kid sounds familiar he was the inspiration for the One Piece character by the same name
I believe there was a treasure down there at some point. I personally believe Samuel Ball may have found at least some of the treasure maybe with Daniel McGuinness but never told anyone.
I also believe the swamp was used to hide and repair British ships during one of the wars which explains the British artifacts, the kiln and the stone path.
There are so many stories of hidden treasure chests throughout the whole history of literature, with The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Treasure Island being the epitomes of such daydreaming-inducing tales. And yet I consider Peter Duck by A. Ransome to be the best of this kind, a novelette that in genuinely masterful way creates a unique synthesis of childish fantasy and down-to-earth brutal realism. Nice narrative style of the video reminding me somewhat that strange ambience of that not so infantile piece of good adventure literature.
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@@lewiswilliams1692 Well, I think this video of Aaran is just a metaphor for all gay men around here, just like me, to stop hoping he pays any attention to us 😉😅😚😘
@@zmeil “cream in my bussy senpai”
@@zmeil ...what?
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“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” - Mark Twain
Most pirate "booty" consisted of whatever the ship they raided happened to be carrying at the time. It was very rare that ship happened to be carrying coins and jewels.
Captain Kidd, being long dead for years: “JK, just trolling”
It's called "The Money Pit" due to all of the money over the years that have been thrown into it digging a hole to "nowhere". So...with modern large construction machinery digging for several years now at nearly 200 feet depth, exactly how long and how many men would it take to dig that hole by hand and fill it back in again. Oh, let's not forget all of the "supposed" tunnels and boobytraps that were designed to flood them. I call B.S. on this one.
A lot of holes actually.
If you read about what the Knights of Christ did in Portugal. It you might open your mind a little. Or might not.
I was thinking same thing. If current construction techniques can't overcome excavation problems, then a bunch of pirates NEVER dug all that in first place 200 years ago. Maybe Knights Templar did it a thousand years ago. They claim evidence pointing to Templar's. ANYTHING for Ratings.
*Up to Now I had BeLieved those Laga Brothers!!! NOW I Know that it is a FAKE!!!*
@@mikerennecker5623*
Humans: We need that treasure now!
Water: Imma have to stop you right there.
@@Valoxil ask if he has any cookies.
Can you stop with the generic comments? It’s obvious you skim through the videos enough to formulate a quick comment that will get you likes.
@@_M41KU_ At this point he could make literally any comment and would still get likes
How little you will all know from this video out of the 80+ things he informed you about only 3 are true
are you who I think you are? I think you changed your pfp which I never thought would happen lmao
As a fan of Curse of Oak Island and this channel it was amazing seeing you covering it..i really believe that the treasure/secrets will be uncovered soon.
there is no treasure, how is that not *incredibly* obvious at this point? You think pirates with shovels had the ability to dig a hole 100 ft into the ground? Why in the world would they be burying it in the first place? Whats the point in robbing people for treasure and then burying it so that you could never use it?
@@SpydersByte the TV show is the treasure because it made more money than any buried treasure could be worth.
Exactly ... in another 60 or 70 seasons.
@@SpydersByteexactly. And then carve a message out in stone to say it’s 10 feet below
It is booby trapped. I won't deny that it is possible that this is a FANTASTIC joke. Who booby traps nothing?
As a Nova Scotian, myself....the only trap on that island while digging for the gold is a tourist trap. Neat story!... pretty cool history!... but nothing will ever be found there except rocks and sand.
Nova Scotia seems like such a cool place to live. Do you enjoy living there? I’m from Pennsylvania
a bunch of stuff was already found there
A lot more has been found than "rocks and sand" sir!
I'm curious if the ocean just keeps sinking it further and further down because of its weight. Crashing waves and all, I mean even that stone with encryptions on it was so much further down.
The treasure is from money made on TV shows made about it
Maybe the real oak island treasure is the friends we made along the way.
Tell that to the 6 people that died
@@Awe_poop The real treasure for them was the after life
@@tempest225 good point
The friends we killed along the way
Beat me to it.
That level of trap engineering isn't a treasure pit. It's hiding something dangerous.
Ah, so this is less Pirates of the Caribbean and more Tomb Raider.
This is a great example of why the psychological tricks MMO developers use to keep you hooked work. The concept is the same: Make people believe that they're progressing towards something when there is truly nothing at the bottom of the "treasure" pit. It's just emptiness and when the servers shut off for good they'll just be slightly dusty boxes filled with metal and silicone. No treasures, no characters that you've fell in love with, no worlds that you live in. Everything you spent, both time and money, thrown into a void. And you'll always long for that facade, you'll even pay good money to try and relive those "glory days." Even though everything you experienced was nothing more than a farce put together to drain your time and money.
I like your interpretation of this being the world's greatest practical joke.
The ultimate prank. Love it! 🤣🤣🤣
I want to believe in Oak Island, but
someone has to say No to the hole.
@@TTOMO2x1-1 I can see someone walking up to it just to tell it off lol
"NO! BAD HOLE!!!!"
imagine dying over a joke lol
We are talking about the first case, in history, of trolling.
"historical accuracy took a back seat to an exciting plot" every book ever written .
Every "history" book even written.
What a fantastic teller you are, Thoughty2! I live your tales and the way you tell them👏
Interesting piece and a lot of good points in these comments. I have watched some of the current program. Like Thoughty 2's conclusion, I'm afraid I simply don't believe there is anything there. In Captain Kid's lifetime and with the limited resources he may or may not have had at his disposal, I just don't think it's at all possible to bury something which would defy the attempts of 21st century technology to uncover. The story itself is intriguing but that's all I think it is. I just think as humans, we kind of want to believe. I will of course eat my hat if I'm wrong and they do find 2 million worth of buried treasure, but I just can't see the Brothers pulling up this stereotypical treasure chest out of the ground brimming with Jewlery, Diamonds, gold chains etc any time soon. Call me cynical!
When I saw this video title I immediately thought of oak island, it’s such a fun and intriguing tale, I’ve been following the tv show since it started like 9 years ago and I absolutely love the story, so happy you’re doing a video on it
I don't remember where, but I seem to remember hearing about there being different sections of the money pit, not with random planks, but with actual floors of planks, and coconut husks filling the flooding tunnels. Some of it being filled wth boulders comes vaguely comes to mind, but I don't remember exactly. Also, IF there was a treasure, another option could possibly be that someone already found it and never said anything about it.
Yes. I think he left it out so its not an hour long
what you learn about our world is every time there is a wonderous, fantastic, inspiring explanation and a mundane one, it's always the mundane one.
There was a series on something like this many years ago that was fascinating. Unlike most such adventures, though, gold was actually found. The documentary was called “The mystery of the Applegate Treasure.”
Well done! Logically there's likely nothing on the island, but the appeal of buried treasure will lead people to keep looking until they've dug up the whole island.
Perhaps the real Oak Island treasures are the friends we made along the way
Well said
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As a home grown Nova Scotian, that's been to the island several times, I believe that if there ever _was_ a treasure, its _long_ gone. Way back in the 50's or 60's, they used a large scoop & grabbed up whatever they could down in that hole. Than, they claimed there was nothing & sold the island. Melted down any gold to avoid paying taxes on it & ran away to start a new life, low key so as not to get caught. Sneak bugger's we Scotian Nova's _can_ be... hee hee hee. 😈👍 HOWEVER, If I had all the money in the world, I'd open pit mine style that hole & most of that _entire_ island. I'd find ya's the "truth" once & for all, yes I would! 👍😁
Aside from the fact that pirates didn't bury their treasure, they spent it on riotous living, if you're going to bury treasure, the idea is to be able to eventually dig it up some day so that you can enjoy the good life. And with the amount of digging, excavating, poking and prodding that's gone on having yielded no treasure chests, how was someone to dig up said treasure with 1700s technology? Personally, I think the sinkhole theory is probably the most credible explanation.
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@@VeganSemihCyprus33 gotta link?
The final word should come in "The Trailer Park Boys: Search for the Lost Treasure of Oak Island".
@@HeadOnAStick OH MY GOD! That would be the most epic piece of cinema in years... Julian digging with a rum and coke in one hand, Ricky screwing up the dig, and Bubbles "Jeez boys, we gotta get out of this hole, eh!" I would watch this - hell, I'd invest to help film it [ and I'm cheap as hell! ]
Ah good ol Oak Island...it's basically just a giant sponge now. Fwiw, my ex-bf, a hobby metal detectorist, found a Spanish coin dating to 1771, quite literally across the road from where I live in Eastern Ontario. Treasure can literally be anywhere. Except on Oak Island! :-) Great channel, glad I've found it and subscribed :-)
This reminds me so much of One Piece. The quest for treasure that a legendary pirate buried.
I made a presentation on this in 7th grade, I am now a senior. 5 years later and seeing a video about it has put a smile to my face
The show is fun. The engineering, the archeology, the tech, the team, the problem solving. It's fun. It was what, 20 or so years that the BBC Time Team show ran, digging holes in the ground to find bits of this and that. It tells a story and the story telling is entertaining.
Mc Donald's mascot was chosen before clowns were considered scary. He came across about as scary as Big Bird from Sesame Street.
1:44 To "go Rorschach" on Oak island, it does look like a long haired sausage dog, doesn't it? You know, walking left to right with the culy, pointy bit on the right being the pointy nose of the puppy dog! It even has a collar.
...
Now I cannot unsee it!! 😂
It looks like Xero from Nightmare before Christmas!
Thoughty2: We’ve been leaving our cRAP lying around for millennia, after all.
Me looking around at the 5,000 random socks lying in my house: *_This is true_*
_"Mr. Data, beam the treasure directly to Shuttle Bay 2 !!"_
D: *aye -aye, Captain!*
What's the likelihood that this was all just misdirection? An old pirate trolling from beyond the grave?
When I was in elementary I went up to a university near where I lived for a two day opportunity my school was doing and I took a miniature course on Oak Island! My parents have been following the television series for as long as I remember and while I personally don’t watch it I’ve picked up little bits and pieces of what they’re up to just by being in the same room while they’re watching, proud that this is a Canadian tale
I just have to mention that the part about parrots and pirates is incorrect. Actually studied about how common they were for sea commerce and pirates thereof in university a while back, in marine archeology class. Not necessarily as a companion/talking pet/it wasn't a "famous" part of being a pirate but it certainly existed.
I always figured they'd be the best equivalent of peacock feathers for human peacocking. A good display of wealth and power. As for the plank, when they would duel, they'd duel but for dishing their own brand of 'justice', a more drawn out ceremonial punishment would be doled out. I doubt they'd hang people, I could imagine stranding a few on islands but there isn't much better than forcing someone to walk the plank. As for burrying treasure, we already know at least one did it once. I could imagine it being common practice to try to secure a pension for hopeful captains. At very least I think of modern day people and how they throw their drugs as soon as they see a cop car. If you've just stolen Spanish gold and sank the ship, for deniability you don't want to have any Spanish treasure on board when stopped by a Spanish fleet.
@@tariqxl yup, there is definitely a solid base to pirate legends. You are also right about parrots being a symbol of status :)
@@Fierth Typically it was for resale or gifts to the King and nobles back home. Exotic animals have been used for that reason for....basically for as long as people could capture and contain them.
@@Swearengen1980 Yeah. Exotic pets have always been a prime (and amazingly profitable) black market commodity. Frankly, any pirate rich enough to *_keep_* a parrot instead of selling it would just be carrying his bling around on his shoulder. ;^)
@@BoojumFed Yep. People like to collect things and that includes animals. FFS The ill-fated Russian Baltic fleet in the Russian-Japanese War picked up a bunch of exotic animals on their way to Japan and had them roaming the decks.
im kinda obsessed with watching the curse of oak island series on the history channel and when you started the intro i was like im calling oak island, then you said it, and i was like WOOOOO CALLED IT
Love your channel and the unique way in which you embellish your stories with fact and fiction! Keep them coming! 😎
I always thought that, if Kidd buried treasure so no one else could get it, why would he make it so he couldn’t get it himself?
Interesting point! And how would he have put it there if it’s unreachable (other than the obvious land changes over time)
It's so that when "they" come up and use some dirty tactics to ask where's the treasure the kiddo wouldn't or couldn't give the information even if at that moment he wanted too.
Your right he did. Mr thoughty 2 got it very wrong. The treasure had nothing to do with Captain kidd. The true legend of Oak Island is of the Knights templer hiding all their gold and money and religious relics just as the king of France helped take them down
There are more theories, they found a roman pilum on the island along with crosses associated to the crusaders.
I'm assumed the guys who engineered the booby trap would know how to disarm it somehow before tripping it
I think the former slave Samuel ball found the treasure. He was poor when he was released from slavery but by the time he passed away he owned a large portion of that Island. I believe he owned property on the mainland as well and was one of the wealthiest people in the area.
I've heard 5h8s rumor also and I hope it's true it'd be badass if it was
The current searchers also feel this is possible and they haven't dismissed that possibility.
OAK ISLAND LOOKS LIKE SCRAPS FROM NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS
"we've been leaving all our crap here for many years"
Got me 😂😂😂💀
Yeah gotcha
My old man has been working on our genealogy for decades, and discovered that we’re actually directly related to Captain Kidd. Every time I hear Oak Island brought up, I like to think that there’s nothing there and it’s all just his way of giving history the finger.
I would have totally done the same :) Pirate occasionally, mostly get drunk and make shit up. Reputation carried over for a future they had no idea how it would be.
I can guarantee you whatever is on Oak Island was not put there by any Pirates
If I was a clever pirate I’d make a “treasure map” that leads to nothing. Meanwhile hiding my loot in plain sight, more or less.
lol sooo eric the boneless and eric the red.
I bet all the pirates are in heaven passing themselves laughing at all the idiots digging up JOKE ISLAND
Legend has it, if you listen closely enough on Oak Island, you hear captain kidd still laughing.
After some really short research, already a problem. The supposed stone with a supposed text written on it was never actually translated since it looked more like accidental scratches.
All I found is "On August 19, 1911, Collier's magazine published a firsthand account by Captain H. L. Bowdoin of the stone (which was then in use at Creighton's bookbindery in Halifax). Bowdoin described the rock as "of a basalt type hard and fine-grained". The stone he saw had no symbols on it. Although Bowdoin was told that they had worn off, he was skeptical because of the stone's hardness.[22] According to Charles B. Driscoll's 1929 book, The Oak Island Treasure (based on secondhand accounts),
The stone was shown to everyone who visited the Island in those days. Smith built this stone into his fireplace, with the strange characters outermost, so that visitors might see and admire it. Many years after his death, the stone was removed from the fireplace and taken to Halifax, where the local savants were unable to translate the inscription. It was then taken to the home of J.B. McCulley in Truro, where it was exhibited to hundreds of friends of the McCulleys who became interested in a later treasure company. Somehow the stone fell into the hands of a bookbinder, which used it as a base upon which to beat leather for many years. A generation later, with the inscription nearly worn away, the stone found its way to a bookstore in Halifax, and what happened to it after that I was unable to learn. But there are plenty of people living who have seen the stone. Nobody, however, ever seriously pretended to translate the inscription."[46]
The stone was reportedly brought by A. O. Creighton (of the 1866 expedition) from the Smith home to Creighton's bookbindery in Halifax. Harry W. Marshall (born 1879), the son of an owner of the bookbindery, wrote in 1935 that:
He well remembered seeing the stone as a boy.
"While in Creighton's possession some lad had cut his initials 'J.M.' on one corner, but apart from this there was no evidence of any inscription either cut or painted on the stone."
Creighton used the stone for a beating stone and weight.
When the business was closed in 1919, the stone was left behind.[47]
One researcher claimed that the cipher translated as "Forty feet below, two million pounds lie buried". The symbols associated with the "Forty feet below" translation first appeared in 1949's True Tales of Buried Treasure by explorer and historian Edward Rowe Snow. In his book, Snow said that he received the set of symbols from Rev. A. T. Kempton of Cambridge, Massachusetts, but no information was provided as to how or where Kempton obtained them.[48] It was found that Kempton had stated in a letter dated April 1949 that he had obtained his information from "a school teacher long since dead"
From the wiki page...
Have you seen the most recent episodes where they are pulling up all sorts of man made stuff from deep in the "money pit?" Also, the trinkets you spoke of pale in comparison to the cobblestone road, the ships railings, the grape shot, and the lead cross, all of which have immense historical value. They have shown that the Knights Templar where on the island well before 1492 (sorry Columbus), showing that people sailed to North America well before our history books say they did. The fact that they have retrieved artifacts from 50m deep that are well over 800 years old, shows that someone, sometime in the way back past, definitely dug a very deep shaft and/or tunnels on the island. Also, the fact that the original description of the money pit, with its nine levels, is a close match to the Initiation Well in Portugal, makes a pretty strong claim that Templars where there and dug it for some reason. Even if they find a huge cache of treasure, the real treasure, is indeed, the history that is being unearthed.
Or its all bullshit they put into the hole to dig up.
It may very well be bulshit but that explanation about the Templars makes way more sense than some pirate nobody's ever heard of. They actually find Templar artifacts all over the island. I hope I'm remembering it right but I think there's a Templar building on the island also
Sounds to me like some Mason's had a touch of fun a few hundred years back. Probably trying to use a small island to build up a meeting range and wanted to make some underground safety bunker like a few of the old temples did, then got flooded out by many of the islands naturally caving ground and lost their shit they tried to store for set up.
Templar's rarely were seen to have ships, so I highly doubt it's the Templar's who sailed the sea to America. More than likely, if it's actually old artifacts that got lost there, it was either trade ships that had Templar artifacts from barter or looting, or Viking ships that had trophies on them and bartered them to the Natives of America who either found them dangerous after a time or lost them over play. Then the naturally cycling earth that most islands have ended up burying it deeper and deeper over time.
@@1bhitte I believe its ALL PLANTED as too many people have been there for too many years and NEVER found it before
*Up to Now I had BeLieved those La Gina Brothers!!! NOW I Know that it is a FAKE!!!*
Next thing you know, they say Spongebob squarepants lives in another part of the sea.
I don't believe in the treasure, but I find the archaeological finds they made in the swamp fascinating. They have discovered evidence of a wharf and cobbled road with lots of thrown ox shoes showing that they were moving a lot of cargo.
My personal theory is that it was a smuggler's roost well before independence. With cargo being transhipped from large ships to the island on the shore out of sight of the mainland, and then rowed to shore in the dead of night.
I enjoyed following the show for the first several seasons, but after years of frustration, watching them miss or screw up so much, I could no longer endure. I can ‘off the top of my head’ list over a dozen things they either did wrong, or missed altogether. They need someone to manage their logistics, and I’ve seen no such attempt at doing so. As for the show itself… If you removed all the ‘previously, on the curse…’, and ‘coming up next…’ and ‘next time, on the…’ the show would be less than 10 minutes. Probably closer to 8.
A few examples of screw-ups:
1) the green dye
How in the hell are you going to see *green* dye in the ocean? So later they did the test again, but with red dye. Still no value. What they should have done, from the beginning? BIODEGRADABLE DISH SOAP
Pretty hard to miss foam coming up out of the water.
That’s one.
2) Do a LIDAR scan of the topography of the island. (This may have happened since I quit watching.) Given the quantity information they’ve gleaned from the land they’re standing on, the LIDAR scan would reveal so much more. It would provide so much context for goings-on over the years.
3) The fact that Oak Island is actually two islands gives me another twenty observations or questions they SHOULD be investigating.
I have dozens more. Literally dozens.
“Tonight, on the Curse of Oak Island… the team finds a twig, under a tree. Could this be evidence that the Knights Templar once own a boat?”
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Can you list your dozens of more reasons.
I was binge watching it a few yrs ago and got fed up with the repetive clickbait bs.
And i totally read the last part of your comment in the announcers voice
Yeah, all good points. I quit by about season 4 for the same reasons. Those brothers leave a lot to be desired in the problem solving capacity.
One thing I thought worth a try... Hey if water is such a problem, why not try winter excavation one year? Maybe harder on the tools to move ice, but no need to worry about flooding
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 why do i
Being a Canadian, this story was fascinating to me as a teenager in the 70's. Reading about the mysterious treasure, possibly from the pirate Captain Kidd, was the stuff that fueled the imagination. The fact that it's 50 years since my introduction to the story and nothing of real significance has been discovered, lends credence to the idea that there's nothing except the efforts and wasted money in that pit in Nova Scotia.
Your comment is bizarre. They've been looking for Treasure there since at least the late 1700s, so by the time YOU discovered it the search was almost 200 years old.
@@levizendt968 ha ha
As a fellow Canadian, I also became fascinated with the Oak Island mystery when I first heard it as a kid in the 70's. I believe it was the show "In Search Of..." hosted by Leonard Nemoy in the late 70s that first introduced me to the mystery.
I would completely LMAO if it turns out that they've spent all that money on nothing (even though I'm pretty sure they've made quite a profit from 9 seasons of wasting our time)
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1- Inside Area 51 there were ARV
2- McDonalds is a psycopath mega-corp
3- D&D were thinking of filming Star Wars for Disney
Hey dude, IDK why I've not stumbled across your channel before. Plenty of straight up GARBAGE crosses my feed, yours is a breath of fresh air. Subbed.
What if the money pit was simply people who used to live on the island digging and searching for fresh water? When they realized the seawater always seeps in they abandoned it.
@@andywilchsalem2377 the hell?
They didn’t drink water those days. They drank beer.
@Andy Wilch Salem you’re fucked buddy.
@@newwave26*
the money pit is money wasted searcing for non exiting gold
A couple of the big things you missed are the coconut husks found on the beach stuffed into the buried flood shafts keeping the water flowing and the man-made seawalls found at the cove where the water comes from, there is plenty of evidence that human activity could have made the pit.
Not to mention the wooden floors made out of the same materials that was obviously cut found at every 10 ft
And the concrete plug from the hole in the money pit that hints at a concrete box…
lmao wana be believers lmao i know whats at the bottom of that hole ...dirt and stone and maybe water lol
@@smokeymacpot76 You're not a "wana be believer" if you actually believe something. You know? Like, if you program, you're not a "wana be" programmer. You're just a programmer. You see what I mean..?
@@Alexanderkermani maybe he meant wanna believers... as in they want to believe... lol.
Leaving stuff around is one thing, leaving a tablet stating treasure is 10 foot below, is something else.
I really liked the video Thoughty, in my opinion the only thing I believe these people might be missing from the information presented here, is actually a geographical and ecosystem knowledge. No matter where they dig from, if the "treasure room" is connected to the flood mechanism it is always going to be filled no matter where you dig from. So you have to do it smart, predict the low tides and focus all efforts at the correct time. It is also quite possible that after all these hundreds of years, the landscape has changed enough to create the "booby traps" itself. Lastly I don't think anyone would go through that much trouble to find a way to get such a hard spot, deep underground, just to throw away something. It might not even be treasure, but whatever it is, it is probably really interesting.
I ran across one theory that it was the Templar Knights who buried it and not Captain Kidd. Forget exactly where, or when I saw that. But according to that theory, it's supposed to be where they hid the treasure that's supposed to have gone missing when their order fell. There's so many theories about Oak island and the treasure that's supposed to be there, that it's hard too keep track of them all.
for that case, the treasures had been found by Nicholas Cage and his friends in National Treasure..so yeah probably owned by Knight Templar
The Templars are the Illuminati the medieval era.
Anything mysterious is attributed to them, most of it is just modern mythology of the unknown past
100% it was found and whoever got their hands on it didn't tell a soul to keep from paying taxes and to not be robbed.
Put yourself in the position of being on your own and finding treasure. You would quietly get it on a vessel and as far away as possible. It would be all you would think about every night.
My words. Imagine u find alot of old goldcoins, jewelery, gems.
U dont want any attention and u have all the time of the world to studiy how to sell it the right way.
Even it takes me like 5 years...doesnt matter.
If im that rich i wouldnt bother to learn how to get rid of it professionally and im sure the person who found the treasure did it that way.
Unless there was never anything there to begin with 🤷♀️😄
Using your own logic, it seems like that's just what the original pirate would have done lol. No pirate treasure has ever been found by anyone.
Captain Kidd was basically probably the worlds first troll.
Were he alive today, I'm sure his username would be CaptainKidder
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1. I don’t think anybody actually thinks pirates had pet parrots outside of cartoons
2. Again I don’t think anybody actually thinks peglegs were common considering you would probably die if you lost your leg.
3. Give this one some leeway but I can imagine it would be kind of hard to tell considering not all pirates like to keep detailed written notes of all of their crimes but idk 🤷♂️ you’re probably right.
4. Once again I can’t imagine people actually believe that pirates walk around going “arrrrggghhh mee matey”
i love oak island its a great show and its so good and the 1st part about danel mcginnis is that he was not looking for a place to farm he was with his friends and they saw a light coming from the island and went to invesagate and found a square indent in the ground and a winch as in something had been put there or taken out
Bingo, idk how he missed this?
He apparently did very little research on this subject. The fact that they found ancient roads, tar pine kilns, the swamp being man made, and recent water tests confirming large amounts of gold in the water makes his video extremely outdated. If he had made this video 5 years ago, it would make more sense.
@@riftur7636 yes i agree with you
Missing out on the Templar theory too. Still love his videos but wondering how many I would second guess if I knew anything about the subject matter previously.
Oh yea totally
I think the idea of pirates “burying treasure” comes from the fact that everyone else used to do that back then, there just wasn’t any safe space to keep valuables back then (theres stories of people finding burried gold all over America)
Bullshit. Ever heard of a CASTLE banks also existed back then. So thats THOUSANDS OF CASTLES DEFENDED BY THOUSANDS OF ARMYS AND THOUSANDS OF BANKS DEFENDED BY HUNDREDS OF MONARCHYS AND UNCOUNTED RICH PEOPLE HORDING TREASURE IN THOUSANDS OF PALACES. Name 1 story of anybody finding burried gold in america? Not counting prospectors and miners. Pirates only bury treasure in old books and shitty disney movies.
@@eddyvoidsoul6963 im not sure what mental illness you suffer from that causes you to be so angry at a random youtube comment, but FAMILIES burried their PERSONAL valuables, it was very common in the pioneer days in North America since banks were often robbed, there are dozens of stories about people finding stockpiles of gold burried in America, are you serious? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"comes from the fact that everyone else used to do that back then" can u read what u just claimed? Pmsl "Everyone else used to do that back then"
@@eddyvoidsoul6963 you rambled something about knights and castles, i was referring to the settlers in North America, banks were often robbed, gold miners were often robbed, and the people robbing them, the only way to keep valuables safe was to burry them, there are dozens of stories of people finding burried stockpiles of coins in North America
@@ragdolltrucking u watch too many westerns
It's so interesting watching videos in this Chanel I just can't stop it.
Blackbeard is from the westcountry literally 5 mins away from my house, he would of had a thick westcountry accent. Considering he’s one of the most famous pirates it’s not really a stretch to think a lot of people back in the days of pirates would of heard that thick westcountry accent and contributed it to pirates
the depression could of been left from someone already having dug up the treasure and then filled in the hole again aswell, anyone ever considered that?
There are layers of traps that hasn't been activated yet yho
@@argeldelacruz9545 could of been set by the finders resetting traps to make no one ever think of tracking the stolen treasure down above land.Nothing is Ever gonna be found there anyway now, its a laugh , season 11 like next yr, Fuck off :( Sickened!!