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But is it reliable? Flywoo Goku GN745 AIO FC and blheli_32 ESC install in my 533 Tiny Trainer
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The BetaFPV F405 AIO FC in my 533 Tiny Trainer just died on me. Let's try something else. I'm switching to the Flywoo Goku F745 AIO FC and BLHeli32 ESC. This FC has a F7 processor and 40 amp blhleli32 ESC. Hopefully it'll be more durable than the BetaFPV ones have been. Fingers crossed.
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-- TABLE OF CONTENTS --
0:00 - Intro and commercial disclosure
1:43 - When do you jump ship from a product that has let you down?
6:52 - Unboxing, feature and layout overview
13:14 - Capacitor on the battery plug vs. on the ESC?
13:42 - Soldering up the FC
• Your vTX is stupid. Th... - ImmersionRC Ghost vTX management is smarter than SmartAudio.
• Five33 Tiny Trainer FP... - Build a 533 Tiny Trainer
• Can the Tiny Trainer m... - Can the 533 Tiny Trainer make you a better pilot? Flight review!
• ViFly ShortSaver is th... - ViFly ShortSaver what is it and why you need it.
17:08 - Conclusion
Ok have I made a big mistake here? What's your experience with the Flywoo Goku GN745?
I use the GNF4 (32 bit 40a, f411, blackbox) and its been BULLET PROOF. I have one in my Cinesplore and one in my tp3 and I bash it good. GREAT board.
I really like the GNF4 so far. I've been rocking it for 4 months now in a demanding build. the build is a tbs stardust 5'' with 2203.5 2500 kv motors on on a 5s 1050 .ive even tortured it with a 6s battery but it desyncs. it didn't went up in flames tho .the only thing is it needs a big cap cuz its a lil noisy and all of the onboard leds died
jb u should put the cap right on the power leads of the board.the cap doesn't do anything on the xt30. even if your on 3s and its a 40a .i put a big freakin cap on everything.better safe than sorry : )
im using the GN413s and its been a tank after about a months worth of crashing, but i conformal coated it pretty good and thank god cause i lost video and went down into a muddy puddle in the middle of a corn field for about 20 min, and im pleased to report zero damage even the barometer still works.
My 3 flywoo fc have been good so far. Oldest one though isn't even a year old yet
But I have has 2 in a row bad iflight fc.. shit happens
JBs rambling about deciding when to stick or to switch hardware is so relatable. I as a hobby flyer am not willing to go through of a lot of hardware. Every decision counts.
I'm using this board in a full 5" race build with 2306 xing2 motors and surprisingly it works very well, 3 month of ripping and still no issue.
What KV? 6S or 4S? AUW?
@@AlvinYeohIts a bit unusual setup, 6s battery but the 4s 2555kv motor with throttle limit, I wanted to build a dragrace drone and I slowly increase the limit and testing what max speed I can achieve. Without battery its 295g, these motors are heavy.
I got three Betafpv Aio paper weights in my parts bin! Didnt even try to complain about them. I just bought JEHMCU Aio boards has held up much much beter!
I even run 6s on the 20×20 30amp JEHMCU Aio with 2306/1700kv motors on 5inch build and it's still holding up!
Maybe try hitting the OSD chip with a hot air station to reflow the pads its on. I have had similar issues with BetaFPV boards where they just kind of stop working properly and hit them with hot air and they come back alive. I have a suspicion that whoever makes their boards doesn't flow the solder properly all the time. I'd be really curious to see if that brings the OSD back to life. Sell me your dead BetaFPV boards.
Thank you for the truth in advertising. Adds credibility to your video.
The great cycle of money wasting is my life by definition. This hobby is awesome!
OSD die because of voltage issues, i've had so many external "cheap" OSD fail. But w/ holybro kakute and Matek FC no issues!
Much YES.
Hi Josh Great video on the Flywoo Goku AIO 26.5mm board. I just don't know about the Flywoo Goku board but I have tried whoop boards for the last year and I have been flying the Diatone F411 aio 26.5mm board. And I have not had any problems with it. But are not cheap, I can't wait to see how it works out for you. Thanks again for the video and information.
I’ve got this board in a Slammed Squirt that gets abused like an unloved whoop. I’ve broken 2 frames and the boards going strong.
Lol, "unloved whoop"
Flywoo AIO boards are currently my favorite ones
"without OSD... Life's just not worth living" - JB while Brandon cries in NFE silverware
Wow… my Flywoo goku f745 died on Monday after 3 months of flying, and you literally said you will try it for 3 months … but the Armattan tadpole it was in flew 4 to 5 times a day and took some hard hits. I had a betafpv, iflight and geprc AIO board in that tadpole but that flywoo was the best so far so I bought another to replace it.
I’ve gone through a total of probably 40 different AIOs over past 3 years and the only three that still live are an ancient BetaFPV 1-2S 5A whoop AIO (currently in my 37g digiwhoop), a HGLRC Zeus 20x20 AIO (currently in my 57g digipick), and a NLRC 12A whoop board that has been in my “95X” since day one, neither being made anymore. Well to be fair Fettec mini aio is also still alive, but that’s because I have yet to fly it since I get annoyed by its bad design every time I look at it 😅
It’s almost as if trying to squeeze more electronics onto a single pcb somehow makes it less reliable 🧐🤔🤭😅
I’m old school and go for individual ESCs. But, I have an aikon 4in1 in my 3”. It’s never had any issues. I had an OSD and 9v go out on a Matek F7std. Swapped it out with a new one and never another issue.2 years later and still bashing my quad.
Cool. Now if available, I know how to wire my quads and have the USB power the receiver. Thanks man!
My first FPV drone (not counting DJI) blew up second day with BetaFPV Toothpick - an BNF. I replaced with another BetaFPV 405 Toothpick - it burned up in my hand when testing motor direction on starting the 3rd Motor. Pretty amazing fire - had a 2 in flame shoot out for about a sec. Had to hold it my hand as the USB connection comes from the bottom. Replacing with an IFlight Succex-D.
i have jhemcu 6s 35a $40 on my tiny trainer, so far 200 packs or so, no problem 😉
I've got three!! 1/3 is working fine, I would not recommend.
Take caution: V1 and V1.2 has incompatible soldering layout/wiring/pinout!!!
One of my Goku GN745 worked fine.
My second never did beep/recognized the motors (Yes, I've changed them on BF).
My third one was working well, omg 4" long range is great, but after a week flying, after a short 30s LoS test flight, one of the leds in the FC started smoking. I have no idea why.
I'm scared of Flywoo, let's see their support.
08:54 I got one of these boards and crashed it on my second flight. I hit the top of a bunch of incredibly high trees, on a very steep slope, and it came tumbling down until it got stuck on a branch. The barometer is what allowed me to quickly spot where it was, by giving me the approximate height it was stuck at. It was pretty tangled in the leaves, I might have not found the quad without it.
It's also nice to know when I'm flying above the regulated height, or generally to just know the altitude. A barometer is a feature I look for when looking for FCs now.
I just wish Betaflight supported altitude hold.
Onboard LEDs are also good to locate crashed micros using an aux switch, without adding the weight of external LEDs.
That’s a really nice board, nice specs, hope it holds up. Definitely keep this in mind on future builds.
I must have gotten a good one, ive had my tiny trainer for 8 months and it's my favorite quad because it refuses to die. I've cracked a few frames and smashed a few lenses but everything else is still kickin :)
My old eyes can't work in those small pads anymore! Lol
Welcome to the club. 😕
Tell me about it! Digital microscope and headgear magnifiers are lifesavers!
Yep, magnifiers are mandatory 👌
This board has done well for me so far and I love the 5 open uarts.
right now my favorite AIO FC for 4S toothpicks are the JHEMCU GHF411 Pro 35A or 25A
they are amazingly simple and well packed, very good price under $40 bucks
This is the AIO I put in my beta fpv 95x. My first build. I just recently changed to smaller motors (1106 beta fpv) to try and get longer flight times. I had T-Motor 1404's.
Enjoyed this video......following along with your builds and ramblings are always educational.
I'm a big fan of my Flywoo LR 4, especially now that I've put an iflight stack in it! 😂🤣😂🤣😂
On a serious note my Flywoo Hexacopter has been faultless. I've had my eye on this aio for a while now.
Following with interest 👍😀🙂👌
I’m using the 20x20 version of this board and it’s been holding up well so far.
*Edited to remove my previous remark of the voltage instability from the onboard 9V regulator. Found a couple loose screws on my frame and the issue disappeared once they were tightened. Apparently a mechanical vibration was causing noise in the motors and the rest of the electrical system.
I have the same experience with all the BetaFPV AIO. After three in a row , no more BetaFPV AIO boards! ✌️😎💨
Me too!!! #functiongamenotpoint
Clracing f7 whoop aio v2 has been rock solid I cracked my tiny trainer and fc is still kicking after 9 months of hard racing
I'm a big fan of them too especially because cl racing fixed 2 of the ones I broke for free. Not sure any other company does repairs like that
I wanted mine to work so bad. Great stats. But got bad esc on brand new board. And i never got email how to return it. Sent pics and everything. Wasn't even finished putting drone together.
Got tired of waiting bought another board
@@RubyS.1 wow repairs?!?! Got my attention
@@xiandan54 yup just fill out the form and pay the shipping your order number is your RMA (learned the hard way first time I sent something). He's in Maine.
The photo and title was enough to hit the like button. 😄
I used to make aftermarket motorcycle engine parts. The same shop seemed to get all our bad parts....
Old Drones never die
Really hoping FPVCrate bring back the Tiny Trainer kit. Even the frame seems to be out of stock at the moment
Awesome work and review, Joshua! 😃
Post a re maiden if you can!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I still fly 2 of these exact FC on 5inch 250g racer ultralights after more than 40 hours each. I like them. On punch outs mine goes to 80Amps. The OSD somehow has more resolution... the barometer is nice to have. I wish you good luck with it.
Cool just bought that same flywoo goku just in case my f405 dies in my TT. It is still working in my TT, I bought it in the beginning of april.
My Kabob (FPV Cycle) tooth pick is a three inch OP MONSTER and runs 2s and feels like flying a true 5" quad
finally I see a new Flight Controller which use BGA package instead of Pin around chip package.
9:00 Regarding there being a INAV target for the Flywoo Goku GN745 FC's. There is, as of INAV 3.0, or later. (note: to do position_hold and other navigation, you will need a GPS with a compass, not just the baro sensor).
BTW: if INAV not enough, there is also an Adrucopter / Ardupilot target for the Goku GN745.
Can verify INAV works, but have not tried Adru firmware. Just that it's an interesting possibility, given this a AIO FC.
I really enjoyed building with the betaFPV AIO but also had reliability issues. I’ve been using the Goku 16x16 stacks (in my hexplorer, and a 3” build) and I’ve been very very pleased fun little fc to work on but not for beginners since the pads are teeny.
Is this still the case? I recently got a Goku F745 13A 16x16 stack and one ESC died 8 flights in (no builder error) and have seen several reviewers with similar issues. My board is being replaced, but wondering if the new one is going to do the same thing. Still going strong for you?
So far i've only managed to kill 1 FC and that was a FETtec KISS board. I was mortified. Couldn't have broken it at a worse time!
I've still got my 3 original Mamba F405's - these are going strong and have not shown any sign of breaking and I sucked right at the start. I then upgraded with 2 Mamba F722's, I really like this board, alot of features, bit tall because of the heat sink on the ESCS's but worth it.
I then bought a Lumenier Lux F7 for an Octo build and that that's still going after a big, big crash - that bent the frame.
I do need to try more manufacturers but now I've had KISS/ FETtec, it's not comparable, for me at least.
Beware of the iFlight Beast F7 v2 which is what most stores are carrying. Even though, in some ads, they are advertising an MPU6000 gyro it does in fact come with a BMI270 (Bosch) which has a much higher cutoff freq for the hardware LPF (875hz) than the 6000. It is also locked at 3.2khz gyro and max 3.2khz PID loop which is probably fine but the LPF is not good news for a quad.
Barometer is nice just to have altitude in the OSD, so you can clame to be able to fly at legal heights.
I've flown the F55 Beast, CLRacing V2, and the Diatone f7 AIO. F55 beast smoked an ESC, CLRacing the negative battery pad pulled off, and the diatone is still going. 6S racing rig. I think the CLRacing is solid besides the pad pulling off.
Cl racing fixed mine I tore the USB off of one aio and the negative pad off another aio I filled out the form, pre paid for shipping took couple months but they came back fixed
Can't wait to get that drone.
14:49 Those tiny resistors are ceramic bypass caps, so if you accidentally desolder them they can be replaced by any 0204 0.1uF cap.
Excellent info thanks
Good luck with that. What are those, 0603 size maybe? You’ll lose your component in the solder blob.
I’ve literally had four GEPRC f4 20A AIO die on me - moved to matek and speedix, awesome combo.
Same experience here. Is this for the baby croc? Which model of esc and FC did you go with exactly?
@@riddles551 matek f722 mini se and the spedix is35 esc. Works great.
@@flexplexico480 how did you get around the problem of the ESC and FC having M3 mounting holes but the baby crocodile frame only having M2 holes?
@@riddles551 the esc and fc come with m2 adapters
@@flexplexico480 amazing thanks, just ordered them 😁
After having one experience with the Hexacopter purchased on recommendations from this channel and others, I have christened this company FlyPoo!
Mine worked for about 25 flights of tuning before and now I don't hear the ESC turn on when I plug in VBAT anymore. No crashes
Mine is the newer version as well. 1.2
Jb only you can save me: i bought this board but the layout is different from yours and manual...uarts pad arr different....there is a new version of the board?
There are several different similar versions. Most likely you bought a different one.
I got the same FC, it was showing OSD with visa but I change vista to 03 air unit and now I don't have ODS.
set osd_displayport_device = msp
set displayport_msp_serial = 2
done.
I did everything to double check if something is wrong connected or seated, but nothing looks wrong, can't understand what is wrong.
betafpv f405 I always ended up not getting any video
Forget bega FPV they got lack of quality control. I bought the pro 3 light controller only had it for 2 days in the right gimbal stopped working cuz the wires are too short and the controller kind of stuff is that lack of quality control over there
My goku died leds fell off just handling it , esc blew, and can’t get my beta fpv board to work with vtx lol can’t win. Went with Iflight aio 50 mw vtx
I have the 16x16 version. So far so good!
You have a nice voice.
Honestly I had 2 DOA flywoo goku f722 stacks. One had a bad 5v converter, so no power went to any of the 5v pads, the other one had the power regular on the USB Connector fail so it would only boot into betaflight if it was plugged in. Never buying a flywoo FC or ESC again. Swapped to the TBS Podracer AIO and couldn’t be happier
Jhemcu has been solid for me cheaper as well and I’ve not bought a beta FPV flight controller since switching over
Flywoo F7HD 20x20 been really solid on 3 inch 6s
I fried 2 vtx's trying to switch from a unify pro 32 to a nano eachine vtx because I forgot the Unify was hooked to 9v. Go figure all my eachine vtx's were duds.
I had 2 bad Betaflight F405 FCs. One had a crap ESC on motor 3. The other had a bad 5V regulator.
Can we get a update on this, i have gone through a bunch of 25mm AIO boards and its been a huge waste of money, what board is most durable
FlyWoo GOKU GN745 45A AIO time to do a review
Let us know how that board holds up . I have an iflight beast that I haven’t tried yet ! I’ve been waiting on one of my betafpv boards to go before I try the beast !!
A bit of advice for everyone if you have issues with tiny solder pads or not ….buy a set of magnifying glasses that are wearable like reading glasses get ones with a huge magnification this way those pads and the controller look like they are huge and makes soldering much easier
These boards have major issues that the onboard LEDs fall off and then all your LEDs stop working. Seen it happen to a handful of them.
Yes got too love a lemon 🍋 🤣
good rant... I suffer too
Mamba F7 22 Mini... I dont know if its them or the F7 22, but never again will a diatone product grace one of my builds.
My beta fpv aio died on me the second plug up. Stayijf away from them for now.
Just fried the same betafpv fc halfway through a power loop, coincidentally I got the same Goku aio to replace it.
It’s been three months now, how about that update 😅
I've had all kind of esc issues on various AIO makes lately. I'm not crashing as much as I used to and my soldering has improved quite a bit, so I can't figure out why. Wonder if it has anything to do with the chip shortage? Saw someone's video about using dental floss for those gummies and it has saved me tons of frustration through all the replacements I have done lately.
companies might be lowering quality for increased quantity. Also, got to watch out for "seconds". Stuff that was discarding in production runs might be bought now that their is a need. Our company needed to buy some "out of production" DAC parts out in the wild years ago (non-pandemic related) and found a much higher failure rate - and those boards are coming back to be repaired..... what to do, more crappy parts and hope for the best. No other choice. Our equipment gets 10 year warranties.
I had 2x twig xl bnf go up in smoke. Never again will I buy a single product of them as they didn’t even want to know about it over email.
Today this AIO had a defective LDO Voltage regulator - I guess the 3,3 Volt since the gyro and baro is not showing anymore. I have had it now with flywoo FCs. I only made very bad experience, also with the 16mm F4 stack and another F4 FC from them. Service is terrible and the quality too (in my opinion, maybe I was unlucky, who knows).
Need some help people more than just with drones LOL. Anyways I kept burning up flight controllers in my GEPRC Phantom HD, so someone recommended I replaced it with this flywoo flight controller. I tested everything without props last night in the house and everything worked perfect. All my OSD was correct I went for a test flight this morning and everything was awesome. Handle so much better with the same pid rates. I had probably one of my smoothest Landings LOL. I put a second battery in and now I'm not getting any battery voltage showing up in the OSD for the Drone. Am I doing something wrong. How could it work with one battery then 2 minutes later it doesn't work with another battery. Then I tried a different battery just for the heck of it same thing no battery voltage but the quad arms perfect and flies perfect just have no idea when to LAND. HELP please I'm DROWNING!!
gotta warn yall you need a magnifier and light and helping hands to solder this thing and super steady hands because omfg the pads are so tiny i wanna thump the desiner of the board its really hard to solder that andits mounting is weird so in bf you have too yaw 45degresss
I’m always confused when a whoop or any small aio claims it can do 25/35 amp @6s. Is there a particular fet manufacturers need to disclose so we know if it could handle a 2207 1900kv 5138 prop???
I've built 3 TinyTrainers 2 were cratebox builds and one was a custom build with a Goku f7 AIO (not the one you're using) that fried.. I need to change frames with the cratebox TT I kept..
3 BF AIO have died for no reason or in a light crash.
Me too
Is there anyone using this FC with inav? Which Targhet and Version are you using? if i use inav my drone takes off in the sky by itself
I just brought a new hobbywing g3 f4 60A stack because i know it works! Is f4 the latest and gratest? No! Do i really need a f7? Probably no! I just know it works, i prefer that everyday over the latest and gratest!
I have the same stack on my 5 inch freestyle quad. It's awesome. I wish the FC had more UARTS, but you can't have everything.
I had a 16x16 flywoo goku esc and fc stack and it popped when I went to take off
does it will work longer if use conformal coating to prevent any shortage or electricak bridge by others like ant or leaves or water drips , or little konduktor material on dirt
5:36 it never stopped in the first place
Will it take 2205 2450kv motors on 4s or 6s with throttle cap? I have a set of motors I want to user for a super light build.
I'm to the point where I am done with betafpv products completely bc I've had so many issues. When it's good it's good but too many times its not.
The man 🤙
I'd love to know how you end up liking this FC (durability). I have two quads with the BetaFPV FC. No problems so far but you never know. The 20a limit on the BetaFPV doesn't give me much confidence. Also it has no BB mem.
Seems like same buildhouse as hifionrc? I like the quality of those boards seems a bit nicer than some other aio’s
I got the goku 16×16 stack use all grounds
can u do a comparison of AIO whoop Flight Controllers and which one to get? which is the Best ? from 2 to 6S boards
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Are they suppose to get as hot as mine does?
And are they also supposed to go bad when connecting a GPS like mine did? 🤦🏻♂️
I want this shirt
Mpu6000 is like f3 fc. F3 fc was an amazing product that just worked even if you had bent and chewed up props, Had a janky buil, it didnt matter it Just flew. Sure it had limitations and couldn't implement all these new f7 capabilities within bf but hey, it wasn't super sensative.
I had a Goku 50A esc go Chernobyl on me on the 3rd flight for absolutely no reason, just armed it and it started on fire.
Everything is junk now.
I went on and gave them a break also.
Is this better than the original Stack for the tiny trainer
I think you should sell a JB-Signature red electrical tape..
The Great cycle of waste money starts again,, freakin classic