The Unholy Trinity Tour: Part 2 of 3- Seth Andrews
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- In the spring of 2014, atheists AronRa, Seth Andrews and Matt Dillahunty teamed up for a 3-city tour bearing the tongue-in-cheek-titled name, "The Unholy Trinity."
This is Seth Andrews' presentation on May 3, 2014 in Albuquerque, NM.
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Thank you Seth, I am a nurse.
It really pisses me off when I hear patients and/or their relatives/friends say "god healed me/them".
I'm a hospital powerplant operator. Nurses are awesome. Not only do they put up with massive amounts of shit from doctors, they put up with my horrible jokes the times I've been a patient.
Yes. It's very insulting to thank a non-existent entity for something that others are responsible for.
Thank you for all you do, especially nowadays
@@1313jerry1313 true
if doctors make a mistake it's the doctors fault but if they are healed, it's a miracle from god. absolute 10/10 logic
Appearantly Adam also named all the creatures in every language in the world as well.
He must've had the fastest tongue ever. That's probably why Eve was so happy too.
I don't know about that... Lets ask Lilith.
Lmao you beat me to the lillith quip by *that* much...well 3 years but who's counting. 😂
😂😂😂
This may be your best speech yet. Someone should post segments of this on facebook and simply call it "doubt".
I'm prepping a 60-minute version of this called "The Beauty of Doubt" for release in a month. Stay tuned. And thanks. :)
*****
yay!
Though 60 minutes seems a bit much. Hard to entice resistant audiences with a 60 minute video. However, pointing out all the problems in the bible does take some time.
stiimuli I for one love long videos like that.
Dial
I do too for my own interests but I was thinking more along the lines of something that could be shared on facebook or similar to give believers something to consider....a rebuttal to all the trite religious crap they are always tossing around in such media. Most people won't bother watching a 60 minute vid if it contradicts their own views. Even the above video would need to have some parts cropped out for many religious people to watch it all the way through, like the atheist logos and swearing and such. I'd like to post from 1:51 to 32:57.
My favorite of the trinity. And I watched this last because I thought I would like the other two better. I was way off...
I would have mentioned Joyce Meyer's net worth. Meyer, who owns several homes and travels in a private jet (currently a Gulfstream G-IV),[8][9] has been criticized by some of her peers for living an excessive lifestyle. She responded that she doesn't have to defend her spending habits because "...there's no need for us to apologize for being blessed."
In November 2003, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch published a four-part special report[8] detailing Meyer's "$10 million corporate jet, her husband’s $107,000 silver-gray Mercedes sedan, her $2 million home and houses worth another $2 million for her four children," a $20 million headquarters, furnished with "$5.7 million worth of furniture, artwork, glassware, and the latest equipment and machinery," including a "$30,000 malachite round table, a $23,000 marble-topped antique commode, a $14,000 custom office bookcase, a $7,000 Stations of the Cross in Dresden porcelain, a $6,300 eagle sculpture on a pedestal, another eagle made of silver bought for $5,000, and numerous paintings purchased for $1,000 to $4,000 each," among many other expensive items - all paid for by the ministry.
Yep--she knows how to work it.
The idea of god creating a universe just to accommodate us is like building a multi storey car park covering ten thousand acres and a thousand levels high in order to park one car
IKR. A shot of Earth through Saturn's rings drives home the point that the stage is waaay too big for the play
To store a bicycle perhaps?
😂😂😂😂
I am so plagiarizing this.
The Bible is a great example of committee thinking: "Well, we'd better include both creation stories. We don't want to piss off the Yahwists and the Elohists. So do you think the Mesopotamians will sue us for copyright infringement?" "Naw, we changed enough to make it a distinct work."
Fast forward to the First Council of Nicaea--"So god and Jesus, let's talk Divine percentages."
Second Council of Nicaea--"So how does the all-powerful, all-knowing god feel about pictures of his son? let's vote."
"So Jesus was born when? Naw, fuck it, the natives love their winter festivals."
Marc Norton Perfect. Thanks.
- Let's call him Jesus
- YAY!
- Let's call him Emmanuel
- YAWZA!
- Let's call him Larry
- For the love of Yawhe, Adonai or Elohim (next on the list)! Will you shut up we have an agreement!
And hence the true name of Lar.. I mean, Jesus Emmanuel our savior was forever lost in time.
Originally Gods created the earth in Genesis. 500 years later a 2nd author changed it to one God. Humans do such things. In fact tell whoppers!
Cool Seth. Keep up the good work (even though I am in UK and am mesmerized by the religiousity of the USA - it's quite surreal)...... Best
yeah im from the second most religious state in the US and the discrimination is real
Well i am sure there are some neighborhoods that are pretty religious in the UK....they're just usually a darker tone than your average evangelical in the US
I'm mesmerized by the UK's apparent paralysis in the face of Islamist thuggery, and by the elevation, if that's the right word, of Mo Ansar to the rank of a public spokes-poodle for Muslims there.
(Not to sound defensive, just noting it's fun to keep an eye on the rest of the world from over here in the US, too. I'm deeply embarrassed over the teaching of Creationism in some of our states' science classrooms, however.)
That's to do with poor journalism. He's desperate to be on tv etc and lazy producers have accepted him on. He's not involved in government or anything. Just a person who appears on tv and radio talk shows but there seems to be increasing criticism of him since he's not a expert on what he talks about. Still shocking though, journalists should be ashamed.
I love watching seth because he represents all emancipated former christian like me.it is so comforting and its like a breath of fresh air when seth talks about his past experience inside chistian wall and how he finally managed to free himself from it.as an atheist from a very religious family it is saddening that i cant do something to take my love ones away from religion.my father is a pastor and every sunday i play the piano in the church for them.imagine how hard it is for me.i wish i could something to help them understand
That was absolutely fantastic, Seth.
I enjoyed every minute of it! I wish watching this was a prerequisite before anyone could enter a church or purchase a Bible.
Thanks for all you do, brother...
Noah’s arc and “loaves and fishes” did it for me. I was 13 & watch Star Trek and Dr. Spock taught me about the concept of LOGIC. That was the end of religion for me!
Yarg!
Trekkie trigger!
It's Mr. Spock. (first name unpronounceable by human vocal chords)
Dr. Benjamin Spock was a pediatrician who became well known in the 1970's for his controversial (at the time) points of view on child health and rearing.
Sorry it's been so long since your original post but dang nabbit that common replacement of the letter D for M is absolutely maddening 😁
*Gullible* are those who have not seen, and yet believed. Thomas requested a perfectly reasonable set of evidences which would render the claim of Jesus' resurrection falsifiable and therefore verifiable. Regardless of the truth of the story, can we make Doubting Thomas the patron saint of atheists? I think that would tell the Christians something.
He asked for proof. Is that so hard to provide?
It says in Romans that God has revealed himself properly to all, so surely it shouldn't be that difficult. And yet...
My dumbass immediately thought of Thomas the Tank Engine for a split second. Now that's a fan fic just waiting to happen.
@@KneedleKnees be careful what you wish for people will make fanfics out of anything
This has to be my favorite talk on this subject (so far) from years of watching these.
Thank you👍😎
"God Glasses" - This is strange to me, but definitely fits the comments of former believers and the state of believers.
"God Glasses" is actually a blindfold over the eyes.
Noted young earth creationist and Christian apologist uses the term "Biblical Glasses". Which is pretty much the same thing.
Then you're one of the lucky ones lol. I go to a catholic school where they spin god murdering people into Jesus loves you
Me too . I always wanted to believe but not if I had to lie to myself . Once I learned thats exactly how these believers came to believe , I walked . If God exists , logic is the greatest gift he ever gave humankiind . I seriously doubt he would want us to through it aside to get closer to him .
I wish this was done in front of a group of religious people and see how they would respond.
there would be a lot of sore ear canals and index fingers.If these people were ostriches,there heads would be in the sand.Some of them might even cry out to God to defend them from the "Demon of logic and reason" and begin chanting psalm 23.
David Keogh I was a Christian the first time I saw just part of this. I quickly turned it off. Way too much info!!
Are you still Christian though?
i'm sure some would have doubt but the majorty would remain ignorant. hey, it took me decades to realize the truth so how can all learn the truth in just 33 minutes.
I don't remember feeling guilty about having doubt. I did feel fear though that God would strike me dead for doubting His existence.
At the close of this video a quote from Clarence Darrow came to mind - "Chase after truth like hell and you'll free yourself, even though you never touch its coat-tails."
I think it was Mark Twain who once said, a lie can travel half-way around the world while the truth is still just putting on it's shoes.
I think Darrow's point was the honest search for truth liberates the individual as opposed to the claim that one has found it.
Thanks for uploading. Your videos and podcasts were instrumental in me leaving my church and identifying as an atheist. I'll definitely be sharing this with my parents tonight. Thanks again. :)
'Adam held his breath, swam his ass down there and said "spider crab!"'
I can't!!! I just can't...
I'm so freaking mind-blown like Seth if you were my dad, I'd think you're the most awesome dad like absolutely ever 💞
I literally cried and tears filled my face, I cried because I kinda feel stupid in believing in such a thing and what this Disease damaged humans and still doing it severely.
That idiotic ugly glasses screwed a lot for me but I'm happy I always had doubts from the age of 6 till the last year when I was 16!! I became proudly an Atheist but ehh I didn't felt emptiness.
I felt so free and amazing, you're really brilliant..destroyed not only Christianity but also All the religions that have a deity.
I hope one day we meet, Love all from Sweden c:
I can tell English is not your first language but you did great. Cheers from Arizona.
Eugene Grewing
Yeah Still learning English and I've stated that I'm Swedish but thanks anyway c:
Another excellent and interesting talk by Seth. Here's hoping the Alaska trip is going well and everyone there is having a great time! Looking forward to part 3.
This series was great - more please! Thank you Seth, Matt, and Aron, and thank you Seth for producing the videos for all of us out here...
Excellent presenter and terrific thought provoking speech. A lot of the biblical inconsistencies I knew of, but I like the concise way you present the issues and your style overall.
I'd agree - doubt is the hallmark of a *healthy* mind, that is always curious, questioning and learning. If that gets squelched, intelligence is lost.
Thanks Seth Andrews.
(btw, I'm a local weather spotter and was watching radar in 2013 when the latest EF-5 came through Moore. My $.02 is you're right on target about your "doubts.")
Yep 60 sextillion stars as a meaningless afterthought to give us something to look at at night, yeah that seems plausible
And, most of those are unseeable without the Hubble...
Michael Hutchison some we can never see because if you go far enough out space is expanding faster then the speed of light so the light could never reach us.
Many of these stars already ceased to exist long before any little unnamed planet ever came into existence which needed many more million years to hold even any primitive life form.
Jonathan Canfield How can that possibly be true? Did you see it? Were you there? ha ha just kidding.
Michael Hutchison god you know your right i wasn't there must mean since i couldn't see it, it couldn't possibly be true...
guess i am a theist now.
lol
(this is what theists expect to happen when they make silly points like that.)
I only have 1 child and that story of Abraham sacrificed his son angered me so much. I am so happy I am an Atheist. Thank you.
Your speech mannerisms are uncannily similar to George Carlin's
It's a compliment ;)
I had a coworker who almost got her legs crushed by a woman in a parking lot who pinned her between two cars because she wasn't paying attention... Then she said "thank God." ... I'm thinking "Who do you think sent her in the first place?" People are so dumb.
Regarding the torment in hell for eternity: my gf and I have been watching The Walking Dead (TWD) for the umpteenth time and we got to season 9 where Negan is locked away for over a year and a half and hasn’t been let out once. Since the beginning of the Saviors (Negan’s group) in TWD until Negan is defeated, I have never had so much HATE for someone. I literally told my gf, “If this was real, someone like that would deserve at least a million years of torture, but not eternity.” However, last night we were on the episode where Maggie comes to finish Negan off once and for all in his cell after the gruesome death he imposed upon her husband. When Negan tried to bait her to kill him, even though that’s what she was there to do, because we find out that living trapped in that cell for over 18 months was a worse punishment than death, she asks him to come into the light. When he finally shows his face, it’s dirty, he’s grown a huge ratty beard, he’s got tears in his eyes, he’s weak from no exercise, and part of his hair looked like it was ripped out on the side, leaving a bald spot. She throws him out of his cell to see him better. She realizes that Rick was right that this was worse for him than death; which I had thought too the whole time. However, when I saw the depicted authenticity by the actor playing Negan truly wanting to die to be with his wife who died of cancer, I began to tear up myself. I had this overwhelming sense of compassion I haven’t felt in awhile and it was due to a damn TV show! My literal heart became warm, yes, my physically beating heart became warm probably from excitement and the compassion I felt. When I saw him like that, I didn’t want him to die, but I didn’t want him to suffer in that cell anymore. No joke, I wanted to kneel beside him and pull him in for a hug like a child and tell him, “You’re forgiven.” Like holy crap! I HATED this man in the show more than any other character on TV or person in real life, minus Hitler, and here I am, feeling love and compassion for a mass murderer, extortionist, thief of security both mentally and physically, enslaver, and mind manipulator. If a god exists and is okay with torturing someone for eternity for not believing in him, even though he was the one who made it impossible to actually know if he exists, then I don’t want anything to do with that monster. He’s the true adversary. Perhaps what Christians call the Devil is actually a benevolent entity who just isn’t as powerful as “god,” if they even exist; which I highly doubt they do. I’d rather be tortured for eternity than be tortured for eternity by being in the presence of the monster Yahweh. I had my mind made up about Negan even though I’ve watched the show so many times. Perhaps I felt differently this time since now I’m a humanistic atheist. I still hated Negan during his reign of terror and tyranny, wanting him to suffer greatly for what he’s done, coming up with scenarios to torture him, shame him, and make him suffer in almost unimaginable ways. But when I saw the human side of Negan after being tortured through isolation, I wept, I instantly wanted to comfort, and I instantly realized that I have a good heart after feeling somewhat shameful for thinking of creative ways to punish Negan. Jeffrey Dean Morgan, the actor playing Negan, did an amazing job getting me to hate his character more than any other character in a show/movie. He did an even better job at depicting what happens to a human when left to rot in a cell for so long, and was able to get me to feel compassion for his character when I thought it impossible.
If the richest man in town has the biggest house, the most expensive car, runs an all-cash enterprise and doesn’t pay taxes, he’s either a drug dealer or a minister.
You only did Communion once a month? I was a cannibal every week!
BlackEpyon
And l was so happy after my first ritual that allowed me to do so.
You know i never looked at it like that... but technically you are right.
You must be Catholic!!!!😇
@@kathyheitchue2022 No, actually, I was Lutheran.
You have a preacher's voice, Seth. I felt like I was at church again! :o]
It's refreshing to see someone who knows how to properly hold a microphone.
I'm now 49 and I've never been religious. In fact as far back as I can recall I never believed in an almighty God or that any given religion had it correct. I do remember my mom putting me in Sunday school for a short time when I was around seven or so but she pulled me out when I came home one day quoting bullshit Bible verses. My wife of 32 years was never a church goer either. Our now adult children have grown up atheist and we all have a very strong moral compass and a humanist view of all life. With that all said, I still find a certain level of comfort when listening/watching folks like Seth Andrews and AronRa
I remember learning about passover in Sunday school. I thought it was pretty sketchy morally even then. I couldn't understand how anyone would think that was an inspiring story.
Excellent Seth!! One of my favorite talks of all time
Seth Andrews is the super star of atheism. He takes all that religious training and experience of a Christian broadcaster and turns it into a force of good.
Hold on. Who's pained face is that looking out from the blackboard behind Seths right shoulder?
Yahweh? Abraham? Noah? Moses?
You know you've ruffled a few cages Seth when even the big guns start turning up to hear what you've got to say.
Keep up the good work.
Loving Seth's Superman curl lol
Mild-mannered radio-blogger by day, ultra-dude by night!
Aah, the disciple Thomas. The patron saint of scientists! When I was a kid, he was my religious hero. I couldn't understand why people criticised him. Asking for evidence seemed quite reasonable to me, even in my teens.
Aron will only ever appeal to atheists. Matt will appeal to the on-the-fence folk, but will bolster the believer due to his argument style. Seth will appeal to everyone because he is appealing. Pretty good mix. Love it all. We gotta work on our image.
I have lost friends by challenging their belief that God healed them. From my perspective, I'm trying to warn them away from a practice that could get them killed and has already cost many lives. From their perspective, I'm threatening the very thing that saved their life, and thus threatening their life directly. I had lost loved ones to the same diseases they claim God cured, and when I brought this up, they told me, "Everything happens for a reason." At a certain point, you have to realize when someone is a lost cause, too far gone to be reasoned with.
I grew up unchurched and find this fascinating. My mother said no one knows what what happens when you die. "They" certainly don't.
Just for fun, whenever I stay in a hotel room, I find the Gideon Bible, I go to Genesis 1, and I cross out “In the beginning” and write “Once upon a time.”
I have to agree with so many others who committed that this is one of your best speeches.
Doubt is how willing you are to seek out the truth.
+Tom Davies Doubt is the mechanism for which to seek truth. You must be willing to doubt in order for that ;)
Seth you have a great talent for speaking. I hope you come to the Northeast and speak some time.
I've enjoyed this from beginning to end (in fact I've loved all three presentations) ....and the key word is "reasoning" - which any decent person should hold dear in their dealings with others, on a daily basis
For those in any doubt as to why reason is good - and why it is the enemy of any blind faith in a divinity, just google "Martin Luther + reason. " Luther was the father of the Protestant Church- just see what he had to say about reason being the enemy of The Church - and how it was necessary to tell lies to protect the faith
***** is just brilliant. Most share this. Very informative and excellently delivered.
Hey, I think you should read the Dake Annotated Reference Bible. My mom doesn't know I'm an atheist. She got me this for Christmas and it's great. It comes ready with Christian apologetics! It even explains the reason Genesis Ch 1 doesn't match Ch 2. Apparently, the first creation was before Lucifer's rebellion and the second creation was before Adam and Eve's disobedience. For a deity who's supposed to be all powerful he sure can't keep his creations under check. I'm sure it'll give you lots more fuel and lots more to think about. I'm having fun reading it and I'm only on Genesis Ch 2.
thexshattered This speech was really good, by the way. No hate, no belittling the believers, but really powerful. I shared it with my friend who's also an atheist but I'm sure believers will appreciate it as well.
I love that part were we're supposed to believe that heaven is gonna be perfect when God couldn't get his own shit together and a third of his forces turned against him.
Excellent - thank you Seth! Looking forward to AronRa's talk….
love u seth, i think you always gave the best and most understandable explanation
You are a fantastic public speaker, I wish I could have attended this tour in person.
I freaking love this series. You should make more, you guys kick ass. I was born a Catholic, but I wouldn't be ashamed to say that you kicked my belief system out of my ass.
Take A Moment My Friend
Your work is never dull
Thank god 🙏
i cant wait for part 3
Brilliant talk, Seth! I doubt it could be said any better or plainer. I just don't get why so many people are so afraid of learning truth that they don't even allow themselves to wonder.
Seth, the production quality of your vids is no less than top notch !
Fantastic! And short enough to show family members without them losing interest !
Excellent program thank you
16:26 Seth, you may want to reconsider the choice of Ayaan Hirsi Ali in your comparison with Jeffrey Dahmer, following her recent comments regarding Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu:
'I really admire Benjamin Netanyahu... [H]e is under so much pressure, from so many sources, and yet he does what is best for the people of Israel, he does his duty,' she continued. 'I really think he should get the Nobel Peace Prize. In a fair world he would get it.'
She may not have killed 17 people, but she's obviously on-board with the killing of over a thousand civilians; not exactly the most moral of individuals. The Nobel Peace Prize: if it's good enough for Kissinger, it's good enough for any other war criminal.
Aside from that, thank you for producing and uploading this series.
Just goes to show even the great aren't perfect.
While I agree that Islam is a negative force some people get so caught up in it they support any action against Muslims even if it's unjust.
Netanyahu is defending his people against islamic terrorists hiding behind human shields. If anyone is to be blamed it's Hamas.
And don't forget that Israel government are right wingers/nationalist, and religious. And that religion and nationalism is behind conflict from both sides.
FDK No, it's disproportionate collective punishment of an entire population in response to what are largely ineffective attacks by a terrorist group. In reality, the terrorists have given Netanyahu exactly what he wanted: an environment where negotiations, with possible concessions in the occupied territories and a two-state solution are impossible. Netanyahu: 'I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan.'
Wonder how many times I'll end up watching this!
I'm on my fourth. There's a Chrome extension called video downloader professional that lets you download them to your computer.
The Noah story has a problem right at the beginning. How did a 600 year old dude with the help of two children, four "young adults" (300 years old?) and two kids who are illiterate farmers who may never have even SEEN the ocean manage to build the biggest boat ever in a place with NO TREES?? Nice trick.
Is it just me, or is the face of “jesus” on the chalkboard behind Seth’s right shoulder at 11:41??? It’s a miracle!! Praise “jesus” lol
Man, this should be mandatory viewing in all public schools. There'd be a lot fewer religious people. Maybe. But I just love this. Thank you Seth Andrews.
Wonderful and inspiring as always!
Doubt is what you need to protect you from con men and other swindlers.
This speech was absolutely legendary, Seth. Amazing job!
Damn I enjoyed this elegantly and humorous put
I read a book once from a trained psychiatrist that said that one of the signs of a troubled youth was "atheism." So disbelief in a god is a sign of mental instability? It infuriated me.
Great point about the ark being unsteerable. I never actually considered that point. Thanks Seth!
I tried to show my mom this video and she made me turn it off and said it was of the devil and Seth is going to hell. The god glasses are definitely real! She wont let any new knowledge in her mind if it goes against the bible.
Play it in your room on repeat over and over and over again ;) ...
Or, I suggest you arm yourself with enough knowledge, if you haven't done so already, and try to talk to her yourself(again, if you have not already done so). If her God glasses are that strong, she is not gonna listen to some dude on youtube trash her God. Her son might have a better chance of trashing her God. gently ob course, I mean she is your mom, go easy. Good luck brah
Jay Bird yust.did.it love.and respect your mama she has the right to be wrong
That was REALLY good. I was bummed it ended... I'll probably watch it again a few times.
Thanks for sharing!
Must have been a smart snake that he could talk. I've been trying for months to teach my snake to talk and he just gets frustrated. He's really struggling with his vowels.
I was a Catholic and we do love our Long Pig paired with a red wine.
+dragonlordd You were doing it wrong. Generally you want a white wine with pork ;)
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Good tip
Another point overlooked - god created the Universe, Earth, animals, etc... then he created Adam & Eve... but later god created the Universe, Earth, and Adam - and when Adam was lonely THEN god created the animals as companions. Then when those companions were unsuitable, god then created Eve from Adam's rib.
I've aways wondered why the glaring fact that in Gen 1 god created animals BEFORE Adam & Eve, but in Gen 2 god created animals when he noticed that Adam was lonely, is ignored...
Great presentation Seth! Plainly spoken and with very good questions that the average Christian should ponder...if only.
Great presentation! I'll show this video to my sister and try helping her toss the god glasses that was forced on us by early church indocrination. Thankfully i was always the type who asked many questions and loved to adquire knowledge about new things, which was my way out of religious beliefs with a lot of help from The Atheist Experience show.
31:37 If a "Blood Payment" was needed to repay the transgressions of Adam, and Jesus was that payment in Flesh & Blood, then his resurrection, and restoration to the flesh REVERSED the "Blood Sacrifice". Is this this not true?
This is totally brilliant 😄
I was recently double-teamed by some Jehovah's Witnesses, nice guys, but I was feeling a bit drained after the debate. This was a rejuvenating speech. Thanks!
"Adam help his breath, swam his ass down there and said 'spider crab'". Haha thats great.
There is one discovery that might make Christianity make a certain amount of sense. If we discovered that some scribe who wrote the first doctrines made a slight error and wrote "omni-benevolent" instead of "anti-benevolent"...
Psalm 23.4 revised for the more discerning.
The science of the universe is my shepherd; It restores my resoluteness; It guides me on the path of reason; Even though i walk through the valley of religious evil ignorance I shall not fear a fairy tale god for enough knowledge is within me; The rod and the staff in a nuclear reactor allows for electricity which comforts me; The table prepared before me is made from stardust, just like the oil and the cup.
Amen
PS I am not sure but should i send it anonymously to William Lane Craig?
i think personally the way the ancient hebrew people perceived god is vastly different from how we perceive it. I think that they didn't perceive him as omniscent, and maybe not all loving either. They probably didn't believe only in one god either, although they only worshipped one God.
Cool ghost face behind him on chalkboard
My parents were nominally Christian, but never went to church. Yet they compelled me to attend Sunday school until I passed out of the Methodist Sunday school at age 11 or 12. At no time did I ever conceive of JC and god as anything more substantial than Santa and Tinker Bell. They simply lacked reality in my child's mind. Therefore, there was never any 'take' from 6 or7 yrs of Sunday school. I occasionally attended church until high school, then stopped all together until many yrs later after becoming Catholic to marry a Catholic wife. But it was all sham on my part! I had never been exposed to any atheist books or writings of any kind, yet common sense and an IQ above average made of me a skeptic from my early years. When such writings and vids became available on the Internet, as did similar material arguing in favor of deism, I was reading and hearing nothing against faith that had not occurred to me as a teenager. This in spite of a education at a Jesuit university . What still astonishes me is how any reasonably bright child, much less an adult, can accept the evident nonsense contained in the bible. Equally surprising is the continuing support of the religion industry when it is overwhelmingly obvious that it is all bogus and a mere money making business.
If it is not too personal, may I ask if you are still married to your wife?
Do you have any children, and if so, do you allow them to be indoctrinated with faith? Do you expect them to understand in time that religion are nothing but horrifying fairytales? Your comment made me really curious.
Personally I could never have a superstitious spouse, it just wouldn't work.
excellent video. More theists need to see this
I like this video as much as I'm thinking about creating Hungarian subtitles in order to educate Hungarian people.
Would you add it to the video if I create it?
SETH, YOU WERE IN TOP FORM ON THIS DAY!
I am surprised that he didn't bring up the idea that the Jews had to mark their homes with blood so that god's angel would know they were the "good guys". I DOUBT, that an omniscient god needs lamb's blood to figure out who's who.
Even more ironic then calling him lord, many call him saviour
Did the 2 Penguins swim Or waddle or swim And waddle from the Arctic region to the Ark?
Even more ironic is the fact that Dahmer became a devout Christian in prison and asked to be baptized...
16:28 - In 2nd grade we read The Diary of Anne Frank and after learning all the horrible things that happened to her and all the other victims of the Holocaust I noticed at the end of the book Anne Frank wrote that she forgives them. I couldn't understand how she could forgive the Nazis and thought she must be a way better person than me. I immediately remembered that based on what christians had taught me that she would be in hell. I knew if there was a hell, she couldn't be there. I was angry that anyone could suggest something like that about a person like Anne Frank. Fortunately, this type of stuff kept me away from religion and always questioning.
How did Adam call the housefly a housefly...?
Awesome job Seth! Your presentations, videos and podcasts are very inspiring.
How I wish I could have been there. A trio of my heroes.
...the sad thing about Joyce Meyer's statements on the end there is that they hold some truth. At least for the individual. I mean, yeah it IS easier to avoid a problem then to deal with it. But I think it would make for a horrible society...
Seth Andrews: The Doubting Atheist.
Too bad he wasn't named Thomas, huh?
madmartigan4077 If I ever have kids; I'm naming my son Thomas. The only man in the bible that held out for empirical evidence.
Sounds like a plan. :)
For me it was a social anxiety of what others thought of me for doubting. I still feel social anxiety at times.
How ever not everyone needs to know up front. If some one asks I try to be tactfully honest.
I just think this a wise thing personally for myself. Maybe I will be fully out and proud one day but for now just a a few know here and there. Most of my family knows and that is rough enough.
Everybody who values reason over doubt should listen to this from the beginning to the end and not stop because it does not agree with what you have been led to believe