An excellent weapon you wouldn't expect is the fungus encrusted pickaxe, which drops from miners in the sunless skein. Fully upgraded it scales with an A- in both radiance and inferno, deals a lot of wither damage AND has 150 poison buildup natively. Dual wield them, buff them with umbral weapon and you'll deal massive wither damage while the poison ticks converts the wither damage into real damage. Absolutely disgusting.
Yep, I've got two level 10 fungus pickaxes. Iirc they get s scaling at level 10. I run the bloodbane ring so all poison build up also does bleed buildup simultaneously. It's great fun!
Heads up, if yall get the Atrophy pendant, it allows you to use your health to cast umbral spells instead of mana. Each time you use a umbral spell you take a little bit of wither damage, that health you get right back when the spell its the target. So essentially it allows you to infinte cast
Personally, I'd put Latimer at #1, but that's only because of how it makes the umbral caster build viable alongside the pendant of atrophy. Using umbral sorceries without the pendant of atrophy, Barrage is definitely #1. A tip for anyone using Latimer (and Barrage): don't lock on. Aim at the ground for nearby enemies. Latimer also has extraordinary range and knockback, so you can knock bucketheads off the perch from a mile away. Oh, and Latimer's AoE pierces walls. But if you wanna be an umbral build, Latimer absolutely IS your primary weapon. It'll always refund all your atrophy wither health, even if you've been dumb and spent 100% of your health. Forget using your melee weapons: I run double bloodlust plus lifesteal runes because the swords and runes apply to sorcery kills. Being in the Umbral is like being surrounded by health packs, and the spear will usually oneshot smaller enemies if you've been upgrading your catalyst. In coop, you are a mobile tactical nuke. For anything of moderate health... barrage under their feet and watch their health chunk. It is the highest DPS spell in the entire game. Bosses take seconds, even in NG+. You just gotta not lock on.
What would your build be built around this advice? I love hopping on and helping players clear levels and this sounds like a great way to do that Thanks for sharing!
@@TheRockCreature To be honest, the entire build is literally just Latimer's Javelin, Barrage of Echoes, and Pendant of Atrophy. I'd recommend getting rad & inf to 25 to start out, then just distribute your levels between rad, inf, vit, and end. Wear heavy armor, use the Achorite's ring, probably the Barrage Root ring too. Basically any catalyst will work but I use Lost Berescu. Use bloodlust or the runes that give you hp on kill or any weapon that gives a passive effect, because you won't be using it. And that's it. Sit back, disregard mana, disregard lock-on, and throw spears. On bosses or large enemies, use barrage on their feet. It is, quite literally, the simplest build in the entire game.
@@tristanward9937Pendant of Atrophy lets you take wither damage to cast umbral spells when you have no mana. The thing is, dealing damage heals withered health, meaning throwing a javelin will instantly refund the tiny health cost. You have literally infinite javelins.
This guys an idiot and doesnt know wtf hes talking about. Wither is literally the strongest thing in this game with the most utility. The game is very mucb designed around it.
@@SpliffyHusk Even better, the mist is an aoe denile or aura like the radiant heal. It gurantees whatever comes next if they pursue will hurt and the crazy thing is u can spam it long enough you can force people in it. Along with that misery missle is the best missle hands down for a ticking poison like wither that can straight up kill someone based on spellpower people dont know how much dmg they take off beat with it. To add the ice shard spell that cost 80 is the best bait in game for pvp if not crowd control for umbral. If people have the mind to rush u you can spam 2 with decent spell power and if they attack u they will guranteed die. It also has decent range just to give u time to rotate spells like misery of fog. The best part of fog and mist is they smokescreen what ur doing and someone dodging from the ice wont see missle. All that said lets add to the amount of items umbral builds get. My fav being the spawn orbs on kill for best aoe damage or the use withered health for casting for spell spam. Very op class that people def are not playing right. The only struggle i have is to radiant spammers with lag unless iylts 1v1 and they have a one shot spell i dont dodge.
Even saying it can be great in coop....it IS great in 1v2 because it has the best aoe and crowd control along with spammable bait burst spells. You people are playing this class wrong asf.
If you move your camera down to a Birds Eye view when casting. Barrage of echoes it will go behind the enemy and every ball will land and does tons of damage
Thanks for this, as i am running an umbral magic build, this class of magic is crazy, really great damage. I neverneven thought to pair poisoning with Umbral 😅
I just thought of something. You could use “lingering despair” and the umbral eye that “plants a mine down on enemies killed inflicting wither” and like, daggers or the reaper withered swords to finish them and get the hits in first for withered caltrops rogue build
I could be wrong but i think umbral weapon adds frostbite too. It feels like when i use it on rosamund sword the procs happen way more often. I think same applies for smite and burn with radiant and infernal weapon
This is off topic but I really wish this game got more recognition. Everyone’s always saying Elden Ring this Elden Ring that. Ok yea it’s a good game but it’s extremely overrated. Lord’s of the Fallen is the only Souls like game that ever caught my attention. I tried the Lies of P demo but was like ehhh it’s cool and all but I’m not gonna put time into this game. Lords of the Fallen is underrated and in my opinion has cooler stuff than Elden Ring.
The problem this game need you to have high end PC. In today situation not every PC gamer want to purchase over expensive GPU and CPU for Unreal engine 5. Even so this game has a lot of performance problem on high end PC and console. If you have limited budget of course you choose to buy elden ring from a famous developer. Elden ring also has better level design, enemies variety, better bosses fight, longer gameplay and better optimitization (elden ring can run in minimum 4th generation CPU and gpu with 4 gb of VRAM).
Misery missile and diminishing missile have throwing weapon counterparts, being the umbral burrower and accusing spirit, respectively. Their effects are identical, as far as i can tell.
Pestilent blade is at the bottom of the list for me, for the sole reason that its description states that you use a rapier, except you're obviously using a curved sword. If it actually used a rapier, it might actually be an okay spell since it'd be stabby instead of slashy.
The lack of weapon type in this game is crazy, most of them just do the same thing. I was so hyped for the pestilent blade because of its description, but turned out it was another lame ass spell.
Barrage of echos is disgusting at short range. Just free aim it at a targets feet and all 5 projectiles will hit as long as the enemy doesn’t dodge. And Latmier’s javelin became my mainline projectile spell as soon as I acquired it.
Lobed the video really gpnna help me settle fpr what to go for gor my umbral build! You cpuld kind of go for a similar video for weapons and do some tierlist foe like raidance weapons, inferno and so on
Does Rosamund's Sword not count as a weapon option? It scales across all four stats, but primarily Radiance/Inferno, and inflicts frostbite. Damn good weapon.
It looks meh, and weapons in this game gets old very quick due to their boring movesets, better off with something more fun, since the majority of your dmg come from spell anyway
@@nihan8554meh? That is the only weapon in my inventory that surpassed the Holy Lightsaber. Adding an umbral weapon means the wither damage is crazy but it causes frostbite after like two hits so they lose all that health. That weapon is a monster.
@@tristanward9937 I’m not talking about the dmg output, I’m talking about its look and it really doesn't do anything special like most of the weapons in this game
Should do throwing weapons. With lydias eye all the banner throwing weapons ate fkin broken op. Especially the judge banner that does pulsing dmg. I can close off entire sections of the game and makes invading pretty funny
LOTF NEEDS NEXUS MODS! Modding should come to PC and consoles. This way, modders could make tons of exciting mods giving players the ability to ''customize'' their experience. For example, creators would be able to make a mod that puts a cheat menu in the game. Opens the door for all kinds of possibilities to really experiment with the game. One hit kills, invincible, unlimited magic etc. LOTF would be many times more fun and exciting!!! Or a mod allowing manual saves, anytime, anywhere! YES BABY!!!
Any spell and weapon with Frost Status build-up is nice for Stance breaking... Now where do you get spells with Frost Status build-up, I wonder? So if you wonder how you get the time for Blood Harvest or Pestilent Blade... Or to hit with Martyrdom properly...
That list will fully depend on whether the Umbral Eye of Lydia the Numb Witch is equipped or not. If yes, Dervla‘s crossbow turns into an infinite ammo rocket launcher.
In terms of scaling, Umbral - Lost Berescu, Radiance - Exacter Scripture, Inferno - Queen Sophesia. Other catalysts might have higher raw spellpower and suit hybrid builds better, but those 3 have the highest scaling for their relevant stats at +10 ☺
if u dont lock onto an enemy with barrage of echoes and aim straight down, all the ball will go under the enemy and they will all hit and do crazy dmg. it will 100% get nerfed
@tristanward9937 exactly that one got me too thankfully I didn't lose much but still someone who lost 100 or so levels it ain't fair to them at all or anyone who lost significant progress
How do you use umbral spells at level 1? Since the lowest non-endgame umbral catalyst requires 12inf/12rad. Or did you mean you did a Condemned start but leveled up afterwards.
@@xXLunatikxXlul yes but it doesn't matter because you can use 2 umbral eyes socket for increased healing efficiency. Eye of Rosemund gives 15% healing efficiency flat and eye of elliomond give 25% healing efficiency in umbral. bow/crossbow build does insane damage so you'll just heal everything and then umbral magic has Lavelier javelin to heal and Umbral Agony to heal endlessly.
I put misery in the A tier and had plenty of positive things to say about it. You’re salty about something and you’re just taking it out on me for some reason. I gave you a chance to educate people and you just threw it back in my face so not only are you ignorant but you’re also a dumbass. Congrats on getting the attention you were seeking.
@@tristanward9937 The fact he said decent is enough to invalidate his opinion. Strongest spells in game with dot, tracking, presence/duration, aoe, and baiting tf outta idiots that charge in because big sword. But who tf cares this guy is salty and a fckn idiot clearly.
An excellent weapon you wouldn't expect is the fungus encrusted pickaxe, which drops from miners in the sunless skein.
Fully upgraded it scales with an A- in both radiance and inferno, deals a lot of wither damage AND has 150 poison buildup natively. Dual wield them, buff them with umbral weapon and you'll deal massive wither damage while the poison ticks converts the wither damage into real damage.
Absolutely disgusting.
Yep, I've got two level 10 fungus pickaxes. Iirc they get s scaling at level 10. I run the bloodbane ring so all poison build up also does bleed buildup simultaneously. It's great fun!
Barrage of echoes anybody else getting dark beads flashbacks LMAO 🤣
Hell yea
Was this ds1?
@@CarlosGonzalez-lc8tuyes
Heads up, if yall get the Atrophy pendant, it allows you to use your health to cast umbral spells instead of mana. Each time you use a umbral spell you take a little bit of wither damage, that health you get right back when the spell its the target. So essentially it allows you to infinte cast
Nerfed into the ground
Personally, I'd put Latimer at #1, but that's only because of how it makes the umbral caster build viable alongside the pendant of atrophy. Using umbral sorceries without the pendant of atrophy, Barrage is definitely #1.
A tip for anyone using Latimer (and Barrage): don't lock on. Aim at the ground for nearby enemies. Latimer also has extraordinary range and knockback, so you can knock bucketheads off the perch from a mile away. Oh, and Latimer's AoE pierces walls.
But if you wanna be an umbral build, Latimer absolutely IS your primary weapon. It'll always refund all your atrophy wither health, even if you've been dumb and spent 100% of your health. Forget using your melee weapons: I run double bloodlust plus lifesteal runes because the swords and runes apply to sorcery kills. Being in the Umbral is like being surrounded by health packs, and the spear will usually oneshot smaller enemies if you've been upgrading your catalyst. In coop, you are a mobile tactical nuke.
For anything of moderate health... barrage under their feet and watch their health chunk. It is the highest DPS spell in the entire game. Bosses take seconds, even in NG+. You just gotta not lock on.
What would your build be built around this advice? I love hopping on and helping players clear levels and this sounds like a great way to do that
Thanks for sharing!
@@TheRockCreature To be honest, the entire build is literally just Latimer's Javelin, Barrage of Echoes, and Pendant of Atrophy. I'd recommend getting rad & inf to 25 to start out, then just distribute your levels between rad, inf, vit, and end. Wear heavy armor, use the Achorite's ring, probably the Barrage Root ring too. Basically any catalyst will work but I use Lost Berescu. Use bloodlust or the runes that give you hp on kill or any weapon that gives a passive effect, because you won't be using it.
And that's it. Sit back, disregard mana, disregard lock-on, and throw spears. On bosses or large enemies, use barrage on their feet. It is, quite literally, the simplest build in the entire game.
@@TeHPHoBoS999 awesome! Thanks man that’s sick
@@TeHPHoBoS999 how do you deal with MP? Just buy a shit ton of mp rocks?
@@tristanward9937Pendant of Atrophy lets you take wither damage to cast umbral spells when you have no mana.
The thing is, dealing damage heals withered health, meaning throwing a javelin will instantly refund the tiny health cost. You have literally infinite javelins.
wither can be great in co-op; especially when you’re paired with an ally who is aggressive and can take out all that chipped health.
This guys an idiot and doesnt know wtf hes talking about. Wither is literally the strongest thing in this game with the most utility. The game is very mucb designed around it.
This, I used painful echo constantly for big crowd moment while my friend swung that holy sword around. Easy games honestly.
@@SpliffyHusk Even better, the mist is an aoe denile or aura like the radiant heal. It gurantees whatever comes next if they pursue will hurt and the crazy thing is u can spam it long enough you can force people in it. Along with that misery missle is the best missle hands down for a ticking poison like wither that can straight up kill someone based on spellpower people dont know how much dmg they take off beat with it. To add the ice shard spell that cost 80 is the best bait in game for pvp if not crowd control for umbral. If people have the mind to rush u you can spam 2 with decent spell power and if they attack u they will guranteed die. It also has decent range just to give u time to rotate spells like misery of fog. The best part of fog and mist is they smokescreen what ur doing and someone dodging from the ice wont see missle.
All that said lets add to the amount of items umbral builds get. My fav being the spawn orbs on kill for best aoe damage or the use withered health for casting for spell spam. Very op class that people def are not playing right.
The only struggle i have is to radiant spammers with lag unless iylts 1v1 and they have a one shot spell i dont dodge.
Even saying it can be great in coop....it IS great in 1v2 because it has the best aoe and crowd control along with spammable bait burst spells. You people are playing this class wrong asf.
These tierlist videos are great. Do one for rings, amulets and catalysts
So true, I rank those 3 spells as top 3 as well, however Latimer's Javelin is a must carry spell, Barrage or Agony you can choose one to carry.
If you move your camera down to a Birds Eye view when casting. Barrage of echoes it will go behind the enemy and every ball will land and does tons of damage
Thanks for this, as i am running an umbral magic build, this class of magic is crazy, really great damage. I neverneven thought to pair poisoning with Umbral 😅
Been planning to start my umbral build tonight, so this helps a ton
I'm gonna run all the spells from 5 to 1 :)
Thanks again!
I think ranking catalyst for each type of spell would be a great video
Mentioning best from early,mid, or late game would be good as well
I just thought of something. You could use “lingering despair” and the umbral eye that “plants a mine down on enemies killed inflicting wither” and like, daggers or the reaper withered swords to finish them and get the hits in first for withered caltrops rogue build
Definitely agree with the list. I run Barrage, Latimer's spear, Agony and Diminishing missile on my umbral build.
please bring the next throwable weapon next! I love your videos.
I could be wrong but i think umbral weapon adds frostbite too.
It feels like when i use it on rosamund sword the procs happen way more often.
I think same applies for smite and burn with radiant and infernal weapon
This is off topic but I really wish this game got more recognition. Everyone’s always saying Elden Ring this Elden Ring that. Ok yea it’s a good game but it’s extremely overrated. Lord’s of the Fallen is the only Souls like game that ever caught my attention. I tried the Lies of P demo but was like ehhh it’s cool and all but I’m not gonna put time into this game. Lords of the Fallen is underrated and in my opinion has cooler stuff than Elden Ring.
The problem this game need you to have high end PC. In today situation not every PC gamer want to purchase over expensive GPU and CPU for Unreal engine 5. Even so this game has a lot of performance problem on high end PC and console.
If you have limited budget of course you choose to buy elden ring from a famous developer. Elden ring also has better level design, enemies variety, better bosses fight, longer gameplay and better optimitization (elden ring can run in minimum 4th generation CPU and gpu with 4 gb of VRAM).
Misery missile and diminishing missile have throwing weapon counterparts, being the umbral burrower and accusing spirit, respectively. Their effects are identical, as far as i can tell.
Martyrdom at #10?
Oof, that spell is insane when you get used to the wind-up, because it liquidates the Scarlet Reaper.
I made a dw poison build that was nuts. Swapped for an inferno build which I kind of regret but I’ll make a new character with that
Pestilent blade is at the bottom of the list for me, for the sole reason that its description states that you use a rapier, except you're obviously using a curved sword. If it actually used a rapier, it might actually be an okay spell since it'd be stabby instead of slashy.
The lack of weapon type in this game is crazy, most of them just do the same thing. I was so hyped for the pestilent blade because of its description, but turned out it was another lame ass spell.
Barrage of echos is disgusting at short range. Just free aim it at a targets feet and all 5 projectiles will hit as long as the enemy doesn’t dodge. And Latmier’s javelin became my mainline projectile spell as soon as I acquired it.
Lobed the video really gpnna help me settle fpr what to go for gor my umbral build!
You cpuld kind of go for a similar video for weapons and do some tierlist foe like raidance weapons, inferno and so on
Does Rosamund's Sword not count as a weapon option? It scales across all four stats, but primarily Radiance/Inferno, and inflicts frostbite. Damn good weapon.
It looks meh, and weapons in this game gets old very quick due to their boring movesets, better off with something more fun, since the majority of your dmg come from spell anyway
@@nihan8554meh? That is the only weapon in my inventory that surpassed the Holy Lightsaber. Adding an umbral weapon means the wither damage is crazy but it causes frostbite after like two hits so they lose all that health. That weapon is a monster.
@@tristanward9937Yeah. Rosamund sword is very good
@@MrVictor1227 it is but it requires a big investment which turns people off.
@@tristanward9937 I’m not talking about the dmg output, I’m talking about its look and it really doesn't do anything special like most of the weapons in this game
Drinking game:
Take a shot every time he says "actually".
Eli Anne & corrupted cleric sword are nice for umbral builds
I've been teetering on a umbral build with the Rosamund sword but I'm unsure
Wither damage is useless, straight up damage is always better imo
I agree.
Throwing weapon ranking would be interesting.
Should do throwing weapons. With lydias eye all the banner throwing weapons ate fkin broken op. Especially the judge banner that does pulsing dmg. I can close off entire sections of the game and makes invading pretty funny
You should do a boss weapon tier list
LOTF NEEDS NEXUS MODS!
Modding should come to PC and consoles. This way, modders could make tons of exciting mods giving players the ability to ''customize'' their experience. For example, creators would be able to make a mod that puts a cheat menu in the game. Opens the door for all kinds of possibilities to really experiment with the game. One hit kills, invincible, unlimited magic etc. LOTF would be many times more fun and exciting!!! Or a mod allowing manual saves, anytime, anywhere! YES BABY!!!
I seriously don't see enough people use umbral magic. I know the invest is huge but damn does it do damage if set up right.
How do you rate the game overall Youwy? I can’t stop playing it
Its a 7.5 once all problems is fixed its a solid 8.5
@@Daybr3ak1991agree
Any spell and weapon with Frost Status build-up is nice for Stance breaking... Now where do you get spells with Frost Status build-up, I wonder?
So if you wonder how you get the time for Blood Harvest or Pestilent Blade... Or to hit with Martyrdom properly...
Barrage of echos gives me slight dark bead ptsd
Crossbow and bow review or list would be cool
That list will fully depend on whether the Umbral Eye of Lydia the Numb Witch is equipped or not.
If yes, Dervla‘s crossbow turns into an infinite ammo rocket launcher.
What is the best catalyst for each type of spell?
In terms of scaling, Umbral - Lost Berescu, Radiance - Exacter Scripture, Inferno - Queen Sophesia.
Other catalysts might have higher raw spellpower and suit hybrid builds better, but those 3 have the highest scaling for their relevant stats at +10 ☺
Thank you.
if u dont lock onto an enemy with barrage of echoes and aim straight down, all the ball will go under the enemy and they will all hit and do crazy dmg. it will 100% get nerfed
what is the weapon that you used in the video?
There R At Least 2 Throwable Boss Javelin Judge Cleric Saint Lady And The Two Brothers That Reside In The Same Body Boss
They probably gonna nerf barrage of echoes since devs know how strong it seems to be
They should focus on the bug that causes people to lose all their levels after a co-op session bricking people's game progression.
@tristanward9937 exactly that one got me too thankfully I didn't lose much but still someone who lost 100 or so levels it ain't fair to them at all or anyone who lost significant progress
Which of the magic classes have proven out to be the best?
I just got umbral agony..it sucks. It´s going through enemies and doesn´t do any damage. Only when explodes, but it is hard to hit enemy.
Quick Tip: Aim at the ground.
Only go for a regular hit if you ate confident woth your positioning.
@@cordyceps182 they have fixed this. When the spell go through enemies it takes damage now. Thanks btw
There is a bunch of viable Umbral Weapons. I dont know why you showed only two. And that sword is not even that good
This game honestly just feels like a more accessible baby souls game. Then again a lot of the bosses seem wayyyyy harder than the others
How do you use umbral spells at level 1? Since the lowest non-endgame umbral catalyst requires 12inf/12rad. Or did you mean you did a Condemned start but leveled up afterwards.
There are runes that you can put in your shield to give you a couple points in a stat
grieving gaze is spammable like ordivus judgment. so easily should be 1
Really pissed off that they ruined eye/pendants for unlimited ammo/spells/and withered health regain on charged R2 umbral eye....
it just encourages people people to run shield with mana regen runes and double mana regen ring.
Is it still this way?
@@xXLunatikxXlul yes but it doesn't matter because you can use 2 umbral eyes socket for increased healing efficiency. Eye of Rosemund gives 15% healing efficiency flat and eye of elliomond give 25% healing efficiency in umbral. bow/crossbow build does insane damage so you'll just heal everything and then umbral magic has Lavelier javelin to heal and Umbral Agony to heal endlessly.
@@dodang_9147 Able to play pure caster with that?
How can i get more Mana
Where are the flashy spells😭😭😭😭
chest armor pls
Javelin is the best by far
Ayy
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You do not know how to play with these spells at all. You should not be the one telling people how it works.
Pick one spell that I was incorrect in and educate me please
@@youwy Nah id rather you keep telling people to spam javelin for easy pickings. If you think fog and missle are not worth it then thats you.
I put misery in the A tier and had plenty of positive things to say about it. You’re salty about something and you’re just taking it out on me for some reason. I gave you a chance to educate people and you just threw it back in my face so not only are you ignorant but you’re also a dumbass. Congrats on getting the attention you were seeking.
@@XmrcaptainbobX to be fair he did say that most umbral spells were decent or above.
@@tristanward9937 The fact he said decent is enough to invalidate his opinion. Strongest spells in game with dot, tracking, presence/duration, aoe, and baiting tf outta idiots that charge in because big sword. But who tf cares this guy is salty and a fckn idiot clearly.