The Darth Maul & Savage VS Palpatine Lightsaber Duel (Why It's Great)

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  • @soruvfrancis6210
    @soruvfrancis6210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2102

    I love how Maul calls Savage “brother” when he’s concerned for his safety. The whole thing about Savage just being his “apprentice” and his apprentice only, is just a facade he puts up because as a Sith Lord, he doesn’t really know how to convey emotions very well. He genuinely cares about his brother but he doesn’t want to show it.

    • @shanez1215
      @shanez1215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      Also when Obi-Wan cut Savages arm off, Maul is overwhelmed with emotion and even ignores Obi-Wan to care for his bro.
      If Obi-Wan was a darker he could have executed Maul then and there while he was distracted. You have to give him credit here considering that Maul had executed Satine the last time they met. If Anakin was in his position (with Maul killing Padme) he'd try to mow down everyone in the room.
      Sidenote, Sidious' also allowed Maul to care for his brother, but solely to inflict pain on him in the same way Maul did with Obi-Wan and Satine. These tangential parallels are very interesting, and both reinforce the difference in characters and also present a theme of actions having consequences.

    • @SaulBadmon
      @SaulBadmon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Shanez1215 great observation, adds another rich layer to the Maul/Obi Wan connection.

    • @senatorluxbonteri6065
      @senatorluxbonteri6065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Stop you’re making me feel bad for this guy after he’s committed actual war crimes

    • @skrilllfury2120
      @skrilllfury2120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@shanez1215 Satine hadn’t died at this point. This was during the Florrum arc with Hondo, back when Maul first returned.

    • @ultrabigfella
      @ultrabigfella 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @I want to suplex Joe Cecot but Maul is for sure black.😐

  • @finaldarkfire
    @finaldarkfire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3387

    Something that has always stood out to me in this fight is how Palpatine is animated. There's this unnatural fluidity to the way he moves, flipping, ducking and bending in ways that just don't look quite right. A lot of the time when he's moving, he looks less like he's running and more like he's just floating along the ground like some kind of wraith. It makes him seem all the more inhuman, like he's not so much moving normally as he is simply puppetting his own body with the force.
    It's a great effect and makes Palpatine seem all the more unnatural and unimaginably powerful.

    • @TheEeveeKing
      @TheEeveeKing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +345

      *The dark side has access to skills that some would call...unnatural."

    • @noahfortner2
      @noahfortner2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      This is how RotS SHOULD HAVE portrayed him. The Palpatine/Windu duel was unfortunately very awkward.

    • @palpatinethesenatehog7086
      @palpatinethesenatehog7086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@noahfortner2 HOW DARE YOU?!

    • @darthtroller
      @darthtroller 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      He was using Force Speed so effortlessly

    • @justsomeguy1014
      @justsomeguy1014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      He should have two on oned Ben and Rey in tros

  • @finnsimpson5253
    @finnsimpson5253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3654

    But you know what’s a more destructive power than Sidious? Raid: Shadow Legends

  • @user-ti4ry5eq9b
    @user-ti4ry5eq9b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1327

    The Palpatine fight with Savage and Maul was a true demonstration of his combat ability... and Clone Wars’ amazing animation.

    • @davidspearim5552
      @davidspearim5552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It makes me wonder Why Didn't yoda oder get rid of both of them

    • @orionxx9998
      @orionxx9998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Honestly the fact that maul starts using obi wans stance just demonstrates how he knew he was going to be on the defense for that entire fight

    • @azathoththeprimalchaos2289
      @azathoththeprimalchaos2289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@orionxx9998 which considering this is maul of all people, shows how terrifying sidious is as an opponent.

    • @Lexipumpkin783
      @Lexipumpkin783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@azathoththeprimalchaos2289 Sideous wanted to deal with maul because he knew he would become a actual threat and even stated so in the comics

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would watch a remastered version of the fact with a more crisp animation and better refresh rate for modern screens so hard. Disney should really remaster all the best animated fights like that (don't change them; just improve the color quality and refresh rate and stuff) and package them into a light saber dueling special.

  • @makotoplush9776
    @makotoplush9776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1549

    Palpatine's legs get tired from all that killing that's why he's always in chairs

    • @arrow1985
      @arrow1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Carrying all his plans puts quite a bit of strain on Sidious’ back

    • @JS-ct3kr
      @JS-ct3kr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Carrying that big swinging dick is murder on anyone's knees

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@JS-ct3kr wtf bro 🤣

    • @henryishere0037
      @henryishere0037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JS-ct3kr r/cursedcomments

    • @cliffordbenenati7373
      @cliffordbenenati7373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JS-ct3kr stop it, get some help

  • @TheLoreMasterYT
    @TheLoreMasterYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2282

    My favorite lightsaber fight in all of Star Wars by far!

    • @shabba8487
      @shabba8487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      Darth maul just has the best battles in all of star wars

    • @kingrex3411
      @kingrex3411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I wonder how Revan would fare against Palpatine?

    • @danheckerson8049
      @danheckerson8049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wowpwwowowwoow

    • @KingLAO2964
      @KingLAO2964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's great

    • @FullFatVideos
      @FullFatVideos  4 ปีที่แล้ว +235

      The Lore Master A comment from the lore master? What an honour!

  • @Jedi_Spartan
    @Jedi_Spartan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1674

    Another thing this shows is Palpatine's strengths and weaknesses. Mainly how his smirk breaks only a few times during this fight as if he's thinking "Really, I need to put effort in?" While it also shows how he only uses lightsabers as an egotistical exercise as there are moments where he just wildly swings.
    Also I really like Witwer's performance as Maul. Massively looking forward to his performance in Season 7.

    • @James3-5
      @James3-5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      That is one of the best part of TCW the animators were amazing at duels in the later seasons not only are they amazing looking but they are all more than just duels in this one you can tell that Savage is totally outmatched the entire time and both maul and palpatine are not really going all out palpatine is just toying with them and maul is just fighting normally but after Savage dies maul goes full force and palpatine stops smiling so much and starts snarling palpatine still wins but it's harder for him it's one of my favorite episodes in the entire series

    • @Darthpsychonis
      @Darthpsychonis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds like EvanNova and Jensaarai.

    • @Jedi_Spartan
      @Jedi_Spartan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Darthpsychonis yeah, that's where I first heard it.

    • @Darthpsychonis
      @Darthpsychonis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Jedi_Spartan They do good research for their vids, but are often bias in their opinions. Sidious as a swordsman is one of their pet peeves, mostly because Jensaarai does not like how Palpatine fights in the films and how impractical it would be IRL. It is the same reason he doesn't like Yoda as a swordsman and thinks that someone like Vader world beat him. They are worth a listen, but I would be hesitant in forming your opinion off of theirs.

    • @Jedi_Spartan
      @Jedi_Spartan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Darthpsychonis yeah but the spin from Episode 3 does look stupid and only seems to have the benefit of throwing off his opponents whereas with Yoda it at least makes sense why he does it. Also at 2:14 of this version of his duel with Maul and Savage, he's just swinging his lightsaber at Maul randomly: th-cam.com/video/-7hBZNsPnyg/w-d-xo.html also the move he pulls of to disarm Maul at the end looks like it would be impractical even for a force user.

  • @frostyguy1989
    @frostyguy1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2512

    "Welcome back, Chancellor. How was your holiday?"
    "It was..."
    *Maul screaming and sobbing under electrical shocks*
    "...most restful." *smiles serenely*

    • @palpatinethesenatehog7086
      @palpatinethesenatehog7086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      How did you knew?

    • @devan6935
      @devan6935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Ilúvatar seal of approval achieved

    • @alfieomega
      @alfieomega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      "Even got to see an old friend...."

    • @zawa9298
      @zawa9298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I've seen this exact comment in the fight video

    • @MGSBigBoss77
      @MGSBigBoss77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      *"Welcome back, Chancellor. How was your holiday?"*
      "Good...., i could feel my anger!"

  • @Headhunter1234256
    @Headhunter1234256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +554

    I love how for like half the battle with Savage, Darth sidious did not have his lightsabers on. He was that far ahead of Savage, Maul on the other hand got the lightsabers.

    • @Nett11
      @Nett11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Headhunter12345 not entirely true, while yes he’s very far ahead of Savage he turns off the lightsabers to force push Maul and if you go watch it he only has them off for 6 seconds before he has to reactivate them

    • @tidepods5506
      @tidepods5506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@Nett11 A force user can force push anyone even with lightsabers activated. Sidious turned them off because like Headhunter said he was many steps ahead of both Savage and Maul. He was most likely using "Dun Moch" a technique used by Sith where the user basically taunts their opponent to implement doubt into them. He was just stepping aside and barely moved his body everytime Savage would strike.

  • @TKinfinity01
    @TKinfinity01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2077

    What’s your name?
    Rey....
    REY’D SHADOW LEGENDS

  • @m.xdmcbangalter3653
    @m.xdmcbangalter3653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +782

    I love how shortly after Sidious starts to fight Maul one on one he deals Maul the greatest disrespect by putting away his lightsabers and tossing him around like a ragdoll with the Force. As if to say "Okay I'm bored now let's end this."

    • @messengermal5298
      @messengermal5298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      More like "I've had my fun now time to end this"

    • @neitherlink6612
      @neitherlink6612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@messengermal5298 More like “Oh shit, it’s gotten really late and I have to make a report for tomorrow’s meeting! My secretary is going to kill me.... oh yeah, Maul is here...”

    • @hellothere4045
      @hellothere4045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No.It's because Palpatine needs toe force to make certain that he can subdue Maul.

    • @NormanOsborned
      @NormanOsborned 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hellothere4045 He disarms Maul before using the Force no ?

    • @hellothere4045
      @hellothere4045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@NormanOsborned Sidious increased his force augmentation to overpower Maul

  • @RaptorsVevo
    @RaptorsVevo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +516

    I love how he just casually swaggers through the fight as if none of it really matters to him. He knows he could flat kill the two of them exactly how he killed the two Mandalorians, and this fight is just his way of having fun with it. Its brutal and you kinda gotta respect the hustle

    • @gabecarr8496
      @gabecarr8496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Maul actually put up a good fight tho

    • @InfamousRafe
      @InfamousRafe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@gabecarr8496
      What raptors meant.
      Mail had no chance, but I suppose he did "okay" under the circumstances Sideous sets 😂

    • @craftergamer9058
      @craftergamer9058 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cad Bane palpatine was just toying with him

    • @fortunasp5391
      @fortunasp5391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wait what stops Maul from just force choking Sidious?

    • @InfamousRafe
      @InfamousRafe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@fortunasp5391
      Think of it as a power scale, with Sideous being at the very top.
      He's like your Beerus/Madara/Aizen.
      So more or less, what stops Sideous from just force choking mual? Nothing.
      What stops mail from force choking Sideous?
      Power gap

  • @dungusglumbus9946
    @dungusglumbus9946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    What a lot of people don’t realize is that when Maul ‘begs’ for mercy, he is actually begging Sideous to kill him. He knows what kind of torture Sideous is capable of. He would rather die with honor than be tortured indefinitely

  • @jonathan-san5280
    @jonathan-san5280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    The Senate: "I see you survived your injuries..."
    Maul: "The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural"

    • @roigergoololo3966
      @roigergoololo3966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Maul: "abilities like force-fan service, capable of resurrecting the dead such as myself."

    • @aurorauplinks
      @aurorauplinks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The senate: REALLY!? YOU DONT SAY!?

    • @neitherlink6612
      @neitherlink6612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@aurorauplinks Maul: Did you ever hear about the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?
      Sidious: understandable, have a good day.

    • @mikefloyd3152
      @mikefloyd3152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ironic

  • @amythegamer9138
    @amythegamer9138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    5:02 let's take notice how maul took form 3 as a stance instead of his mainly used form 4, he respected and feared Sidious so much that he changed from and attacking form to a defensive form.

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    "Our boy Palpie is more of a Machiavellian schemer in the shadows than a duelist...But it's Sheev we're dealing with here. He manipulating events 24/7, in the middle of a lightsaber duel...Palpatine is 50 steps ahead of the game at all times."
    *The Sheev in my head:* "It's treason then. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

    • @InfamousRafe
      @InfamousRafe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's super effective!

  • @blackfyre4578
    @blackfyre4578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    "Raid shadow legends is comparable to a console experience"- Is probably the most stereotypical mobile game ever

    • @AF-qc5vo
      @AF-qc5vo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Comparable to console experience from the 90s...

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      They've got a scrip that they make creators read out. Game's shite but the money is nothing to scoff at and TH-cam creators simply got bills to pay just like anyone else and YT ad revenue is a fickle lady.

    • @AF-qc5vo
      @AF-qc5vo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@darthplagueis13 Ikr, everyone knows that the game is garbage. So just let these guys be sponsored by them. Its not like your forced to download the game...

    • @jkeirejejhehehehe6796
      @jkeirejejhehehehe6796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      “Console quality” yeah sure, if by console you mean the fucking Wii.

    • @notbrody6113
      @notbrody6113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jkeirejej Hehehehe don’t compare the raid to the wii. The wii is like my second favourite console.

  • @paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522
    @paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +649

    Raid shadow legends: ...
    Everyone: I HATE YOU

    • @vovacat1797
      @vovacat1797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The thing is, RAID is actually known to steal players' money. They require donations at every step and a lot of the time you don't even get the thing you donated for. And you can't even get through to their tech support. That is not just a bad game now, that's a criminal viral scam and taking them as a sponsor is basically same as advertising online gambling or pyramid schemes.

    • @soggycatgirl
      @soggycatgirl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's skippable, doesn't seem to take up half the length of the video, and it helps them make more videos. I don't really have that much of an issue with it.

    • @fruze8478
      @fruze8478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank God, this one was okay. Most times, the TH-camr would have to lie and say "this is one of the most ambitious games of the decade" or some shit. He was def bending the truth when he said that the graphics were dAmN gOoD. Gosh that was cringe.

    • @boser2562
      @boser2562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fruze8478 he showed a accurate gameplay recreation at the end of the ass using lego so I forgive them

    • @Sinstarclair
      @Sinstarclair 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its course, its dry and it gets everywhere

  • @grahpayy
    @grahpayy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    For some reason I like Palpatine better when he has two lightsabers

    • @richardschlange9629
      @richardschlange9629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Nah I feel as if it fits him much better with 1. Its alot more elegant and mature.

    • @roigergoololo3966
      @roigergoololo3966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      He looks dope as fuck with 2. Almost as cool as Revan.

    • @jamainegardner4193
      @jamainegardner4193 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      It gives off the sense of him being a frenzy of destruction in a fight and also indicates how little effort he puts in.

    • @failure2946
      @failure2946 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @SardonicJosh
      @SardonicJosh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      richard schlange wtf? His stance ain’t dope at all. 2 lightsabers are far more elegant.

  • @oatmeeru
    @oatmeeru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    "you want a character with duel wielding lightsabers?"
    ventress: am i a joke to you

    • @jackychang9148
      @jackychang9148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Grevious: (cough cough) Am I a joke to you?
      Dual*

    • @ambuknight
      @ambuknight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sadly.... Venturess and Grievous are nothing compared to Sidoues for he is the true with Lord. And I always loved the old cannon of Lightsaber forms and stlyes and a book talking about how to fight against with which some t xts talked about fighting two with with two lightsabers so I always thought that Sidoues used two lightsabers cuase he was fight two Other sith and thus showed off his power in his way.
      Everyone saying he was playing with them and that I agree but I would like to think he had to be careful for even as powerful as he was. His plans where the real weapon and when he has to Hustle. Well he can Hustle.

    • @Tar-Numendil
      @Tar-Numendil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Ahsoka Tano?

    • @Tar-Numendil
      @Tar-Numendil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Ahsoka Tano.
      Asajj Ventress.
      Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious.
      Galen Marek/Starkiller.

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tar-Numendil I think this thread is about dual-wielders in TCW. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Galen Marek shows up in TCW.

  • @jackthelucario
    @jackthelucario 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    “I’m not like you. I never was”
    God I love Savage’s last line. It’s so perfect

  • @turdblaster923
    @turdblaster923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    Palpatine using a lightsaber is like when your band teacher uses an Instrument.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Accurate.

    • @Tempusverum
      @Tempusverum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He’ll take your instrument, sneer at the brand, make a comment about cheap factory production and then absolutely dominate you

  • @Protocol36
    @Protocol36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    I never really looked at this duel as a duel, mostly because Palpatine is having way too much fun to take anything seriously lol

    • @jidk6565
      @jidk6565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      So every single duel he's ever been in isnt a duel?
      Because he's always having fun!

    • @Protocol36
      @Protocol36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@jidk6565 Maybe except the Mace Windu and Yoda duels but other than those, yeah basically 😂😂😂

    • @Protocol36
      @Protocol36 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @mosesheffner It's still a duel regardless of numbers, just how easy this duel is to Palpatine.

    • @Protocol36
      @Protocol36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mosesheffner True. But when someone is talking about “duel” we usually just refer to the fight itself but you’re right.

    • @Protocol36
      @Protocol36 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      mosesheffner Again true but in Star Wars it isn’t

  • @crosshair9907
    @crosshair9907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    "I was expecting Kenobi"
    Also the video starts at 2:33

    • @krynwomble3937
      @krynwomble3937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you

    • @scatkat1233
      @scatkat1233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks

    • @garrito1016
      @garrito1016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Commence Order 66 Likes

    • @henryishere0037
      @henryishere0037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why thank you for skipping another GODAWFUL RAID SHADOW LEGENDS SPONSOR!!!!!

  • @jamiethomas3768
    @jamiethomas3768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I still can’t believe how Palpatine was able to make someone like his former apprentice beg for mercy. Sidious was that terrifying.

    • @chadwickdavis8529
      @chadwickdavis8529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I believe the mercy maul meant was to go ahead and kill him and spare him the torment

  • @WR288
    @WR288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    You should also cover other duels in TCW, I would particularly like to see:
    Savage + Maul vs Obi Wan on Florrum
    Dooku vs Obi Wan + Anakin (Obi Diah).

    • @chaos_kid-_-9147
      @chaos_kid-_-9147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ahsoka Vs Maul lol "Your lucky my master didn't show up.... the way your fighting you wouldnt have lasted long.."

    • @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3
      @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @BattleEmpoleon what battle you talking about

    • @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3
      @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chaos_kid-_-9147 I LOVE THAT BATTLE SO MUCH

    • @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3
      @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @BattleEmpoleon true very under appreciated, maybe the most under appreciated, i love what a genius dooku is putting them into their weak lightsaber forms, anakin on the defensive and obi wan on the offensive

  • @Creeptosis
    @Creeptosis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    7:31 "it's over maul, I have the high ground"

  • @thevaleyard4501
    @thevaleyard4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Maul definitely got a bit of revenge on obi wan. He freaking killed his gf.

    • @thepigeonsofthepacificnort2268
      @thepigeonsofthepacificnort2268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Josh Allen yeah, to be fair, it was Obi-Wan getting revenge on Maul for killing his master

  • @frozarburst6350
    @frozarburst6350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    If I hear another Raid Shadow Legends ad, I'm gonna execute Order 66

  • @erikm8373
    @erikm8373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I would honestly love to see an alternate timeline where Sidious just goes "sure you can be my apprentice again, you just have to get rid of the current one" because a Dooku vs Maul battle would be fantastic.
    We see quite a few battles from Dooku but he always seems untouchable. He never seems to be threatened by anyone who challenges him, so it would be interesting to see him battle someone who is around his level.

    • @TheRayfield77
      @TheRayfield77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Going by lore and rep, Dooku would completely annihilate Maul. Maul had good fighting skills, but that was abou it. It's why Sidious acquired him "on the side" to use for assassinations. And he did this while he was still an apprentice under Darth Plagueis too. Maul was never really a full sith apprentice, more like a side project.
      Dooku on the other hand was jedi trained by Yoda and was supposedly just as good with a saber. I mean Dooku and Yoda dueled in the 2nd movie and it was pretty close. Matching Yoda swing for swing is no small feat.
      Dooku would likely beat Maul just about as easily as Sidious did.

    • @TheRayfield77
      @TheRayfield77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One slight correction. I guess Maul was a full apprentice after Sidious killed Plaguis and before he picked up Dooku. (I'm actually not fully up on when Dooku joined him. I haven't read that book). Like in The Phantom Menace. But he was never in Sidious long term plans.

    • @Nigel-nv3lr
      @Nigel-nv3lr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheRayfield77 I'm pretty sure maul was originally meant to be sidious' long term apprentice. But once he assumed maul was dead and discovered Anakin's great power in the force, his plans changed to make him his apprentice, and when maul showed up again, he decided not to bother with taking him back because he knew Anakin had more potential

  • @rwg6357
    @rwg6357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The funny thing is Palpy in a really Twisted way has a genuine "Fatherly" "affection" for Maul and Vader 'note the quotes' unlike poor Dooku who he never saw as a viable successor but just a pawn in the game to be thrown away.

  • @ObaREX
    @ObaREX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I mean, it was pretty clear he was playing with his food from the first move. When he was able to pin both of them down with the force- with them unable to break free. He dropped them so he could see what they've got.

  • @lyjahthomas9556
    @lyjahthomas9556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Darth Maul's Failure could have led to one hell of a Redemption story.

  • @somebody754
    @somebody754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    I really hope the new season includes fights like this

    • @lidkas7158
      @lidkas7158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Ashoka vs Maul fo sure

    • @spuart3308
      @spuart3308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      ray parks came back to mo-cap the fight that maul is gonna have with ahsoka

    • @ignitetheinferno1858
      @ignitetheinferno1858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Filoni said during Star Wars Celebration that he he considers the Maul-Ahsoka duel is their finest work. A paraphrase but in essence of what he said.

    • @dixonb.tweenerlegs4225
      @dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really hope they show Palpatine's full power since Rise of Skywalker only brought him back to be one shotted before he could show us everything.

    • @dylaningobernoble9971
      @dylaningobernoble9971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ahsoka vs Maul is gonna be lit af

  • @macwade2755
    @macwade2755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I hope that the Darth Maul Son of Dathomir comics are adapted back into episodes! I really want to see Sidious, Maul, Dooku, and Grievous on screen together!

  • @renatodutrarangel112
    @renatodutrarangel112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i love how my boy Shev turns off the lighsabers in the middle of the fight, even though the opponent is literally attacking him at the exact moment as seen in 5:46, he is so confident in his own ability that even though the opponent has a weapon that can rip off a limb with a simple movement and its only form of defense is the lighsaber, it keeps it off because it knows it doesn't need it.

  • @cpudude30k
    @cpudude30k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Dude, the Son of Dathomir comic was the only thing aside from the main movies/clone wars to remain canon in the Disney purchase.

    • @Darthpsychonis
      @Darthpsychonis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It is meant to be apart of TCW which they said from the beginning would stay canon.

    • @donnovandalusong266
      @donnovandalusong266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Psychonis glad to hear that

  • @dinodar8765
    @dinodar8765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My fave moment in the fight is when sidious just glides out the way of savage’s strikes. He’s having such a laugh while savage just gets more angry and unbalanced

  • @aurumthebrave3427
    @aurumthebrave3427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    5:40 The way Palpatine was kicked off by Savage, then backflips and force pulls both him and Maul whilst momentarily floating is incredible.

  • @maxkogan3785
    @maxkogan3785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    One of the things that surprised me the most is that Filoni stated in an interview that Savage did better against Sidious than the Jedi (the ones that accompanied Windu: Tiin, Fisto, and Kolar). Which only goes to show how superior Sidious is to other Force users, save Yoda, Vapaad amped Windu and full potential Anakin and *sighs* All the Jedi aka Rey

    • @paulwalker9608
      @paulwalker9608 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If rey could defeat kylo with 2minutes of swinging lightsaber practice, imagine what she would with 10 minutes of swinging.

    • @maxkogan3785
      @maxkogan3785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulwalker9608 Do you want reality to be shattered as the center of the galaxy is swallowed up by a black hole after one swing???

  • @BossofBosses111
    @BossofBosses111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was my favorite arc. Palpatine actually coming out of his ivory tower to become Sidious and slap Maul down was tremendous

  • @yoboinicossman
    @yoboinicossman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    7:03 Heh I like how the "brother" is synchronized with the clip

  • @malcolmmacinnis247
    @malcolmmacinnis247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Okay remember the lego darth maul singing awesome
    TH-cam First ad: Maul 2 blades
    TH-cam Second ad: Maul 4 blades
    This video is sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends: Maul 6 blades

  • @ZafiroDoesGames
    @ZafiroDoesGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Can’t wait to see what his opinion of the Ashoka vs Maul fight is like

  • @NICKatronMC
    @NICKatronMC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:49 This line reminds me heavily of the “I have been every voice you have ever heard inside your head” quote

  • @jerichosombilon5169
    @jerichosombilon5169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One thing I appreciated aside from the fight itself is the background mural of the Mandalorians gunning down Jedi, portrayed as deformed monsters. Really shows the relationship between the two way back then, a good example of show don't tell.

  • @mcurran6505
    @mcurran6505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    At least we know Maul is coming back in the final season of Clone Wars.

    • @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3
      @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And so he did, THE SIEGE OF MANDALORE AND ORDER 66 ARC IS *THE BEST PIECE OF STAR WARS MEDIA SINCE TESB*

  • @JimmyMac118
    @JimmyMac118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always love how Sidious laughs pretty much the whole time, man's genuinely enjoying himself.
    Like when you're 25 and you're 10yr old cousin gets boxing gloves so thinks they're tough af 🥊😂

    • @picklerick3588
      @picklerick3588 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats false. Sidious always laughs to intimidate his opponents which is why he also laughed against yoda and mace even though he was loosing so you could basically say he laughs when he is serious

    • @JimmyMac118
      @JimmyMac118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @picklerick3588, I don't see why it can't be both my guy

  • @helldrake77777
    @helldrake77777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I was promised an analysis of the Grievous fight in his first appearance in Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars in 2 weeks...3 weeks ago. I am disappoint.

    • @FullFatVideos
      @FullFatVideos  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's out next week! :)

    • @helldrake77777
      @helldrake77777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FullFatVideos I am looking at you with suspicion xD

    • @Darknesss490
      @Darknesss490 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FullFatVideosHi! There is an extended scene in this sidious vs maul duel where maul force chokes sidious and pins him to the wall. Is that scene canon? Because Matt Martin stated that in a tweet. What do you know of this?

  • @devinwood2713
    @devinwood2713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And the fact they all use juyo makes the duel so raw and so brutal

  • @torgan
    @torgan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    "He just shot lightning," as a jab at The Rise of Skywalker. In response, I present to you Return of the Jedi, where the only thing he does is shoot lightning until he is physically picked up and carried.

    • @IoanCenturion
      @IoanCenturion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's fair

    • @Zechariah_Mathieson1871
      @Zechariah_Mathieson1871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      But Revenge of the Sith he get shocked by his own lightning,but at least be started the fight using a Lightsaber and only converted to his Force Lightning was beacuse he was disarmed

    • @franco_setti
      @franco_setti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It doesn't make both of this scenes less stupid🤷

    • @Darthpsychonis
      @Darthpsychonis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Different circumstance. In Return of the Jedi he was just trying to torture Luke to death. In Rise of Skywalker he keeps shooting lighting at Rey even though she keeps bouncing it back until he is destroyed. If there ever was a time for Sidious to use his lightsaber instead, it was then.

    • @torgan
      @torgan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Darthpsychonis he was hooked up to a machine (presumably keeping him alive) and without a lightsaber.

  • @greedavaricious7760
    @greedavaricious7760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A little detail I love is when Sidious has the two against those windows. They were cracking and with what would probably minimal effort he could have sent them flying likely to their deaths. Instead he lets them go, showing he was indeed playing with his food

  • @IsaacWhittakerDakin
    @IsaacWhittakerDakin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    "I have plans for you" Since the series was cancelled I thought we'd never see what those plans are but the new trailer for the end of clone wars has given me hope!

    • @Lanosrep
      @Lanosrep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Maul was put in prison by Sidious and escaped. The sith then launched an attack on Dathomir killing all but one of the Night sisters. This new season takes place after Maul is saved from Dathomir by Death Watch and brought back to Mandalore

    • @EditedAF987
      @EditedAF987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isaac Whittaker-Dakin I don’t think we’ll be seeing them in the new series. But we did get to see them in the Son of Dathomir comic

    • @shabba8487
      @shabba8487 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EditedAF987 he is in the trailer are you dumb

    • @IsaacWhittakerDakin
      @IsaacWhittakerDakin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Lanosrep thanks for the catch up! 👍

    • @Lanosrep
      @Lanosrep 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IsaacWhittakerDakin 👍

  • @AngelPhoenix919
    @AngelPhoenix919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The clone wars is by far my favourite star wars media. Every season was great and the lightsaber fights were even better. I so cant wait for season 7 and see what it gives us.

  • @mrmoofs2321
    @mrmoofs2321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You can also notice that Palpatine only really tries after he kill Savage, before then he seams to just toy with them.

  • @darthdragonborn1076
    @darthdragonborn1076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:54 fun fact he wasn't begging for his life he was begging for a quick end. Because if you've seen the comics and know palps well, you know there are far worse things than death,quoted from the grand inquisiter.

  • @Desb-ui9vx
    @Desb-ui9vx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I loved this video but the peep show moment was the icing on the cake.

    • @FullFatVideos
      @FullFatVideos  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Chance would be a fine thing!

    • @גוד-צ2ו
      @גוד-צ2ו 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FullFatVideos Is that a thing people say?

  • @dylanmcnab2980
    @dylanmcnab2980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    i've never noticed that Maul is like obi wan in this fight

  • @ebear5595
    @ebear5595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good music choice man. I've been listening to Samuels music every day when I do my homework.

  • @StaleCrony
    @StaleCrony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Darth Sidious moves like he’s in his 20s or 30s. Just shows how powerful he is in the force, truly an amazing villain and one of my favorite Sith.

  • @physikus1123
    @physikus1123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THIS is the best lightsaber duel ever. Period.

  • @mitchbarredo3990
    @mitchbarredo3990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing I love is that the lightsaber combat is that its also mixed in with plenty of martial arts, kicks, punches, etc.

  • @madphantom92
    @madphantom92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Dolby Atmos sound in this fight was really great. Hopefully we get more duels in the new season.

  • @willshields-porterfield1294
    @willshields-porterfield1294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    RaId ShAdOw LeGeNdS

  • @bluescarblues6473
    @bluescarblues6473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think it's interesting to note is that when the sabers get ignited. Maul enters Obi-Wan's defensive pose for the first and only time ever on screen. He's so scared shitless that he instinctively moved to self preservation mode.

  • @jeepamir508
    @jeepamir508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:20 - ahahahaha. That reaction 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    6:24 - Damm, that laugh. You can feel every emotion from Palpatine : joy, fun, anger etc. But the one emotion that strikes into every viewer is fear. Cause you see how effortlessly and casually Palpatine made it. Simply toying with them. Now that's scary.

  • @emperorpalpatine6874
    @emperorpalpatine6874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yea,That's Right,I'm a BadAss..
    Btw,that wasn't me in RoS,that was my twin bro

  • @mathieubyron2038
    @mathieubyron2038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The coolest moment of this fight for me was when Sidious was pushed off that balcony but uses the force to pull both Savage and Maul with him... !!!

  • @lunarfrog
    @lunarfrog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I'm Rey.
    Rey who?
    REYD SHADOW LEGENDS

    • @DMan-ev2rx
      @DMan-ev2rx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is one of the best "Rey who?" jokes I've ever seen

    • @henryishere0037
      @henryishere0037 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DMan-ev2rx yep

  • @batmangamer75
    @batmangamer75 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When Savage Oppress dies and Maul and Palpatine Figth you can see that Maul and Palpatine are in relative levels of dueling until Sidious use the force which is his stronger apptitude

  • @alexanderchaffee7027
    @alexanderchaffee7027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can’t wait for his video on the Ahsoka V Maul Duel!!

  • @danyyeltr4803
    @danyyeltr4803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It wasn't intended to stay ambiguous, there would have been more arcs with him if the show hadn't been cancelled (we got Maul escaping as a comic: Son of Dathomir)

  • @shoogamoogaman
    @shoogamoogaman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Who are you?"
    "I'm Rey"
    "Rey who?"
    *Looks to Full Fat Videos*
    "Rey'D SHADOW LEGENDS IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR RPG GAMES SET IN A DARK FANTASY WORLD..."

  • @Taiyougetsu13
    @Taiyougetsu13 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my second favorite duel in the franchise, just behind Maul vs Obi Wan in Rebels. Dave Filoni really goes above and beyond for us every chance he gets

  • @SuperPokekami
    @SuperPokekami 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    F my man caved to the raid god's :(

  • @caseygray2328
    @caseygray2328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i loved this duel for the intensity in everything going on and how Savage seemed to know he was out of his league but still stuck by his brother's side anyway

  • @jordandenny6875
    @jordandenny6875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    7:29 because the high ground always wins

  • @oliverlutz1392
    @oliverlutz1392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also take note that at 5:03 maul takes the form 3 soresu combat stance which is the most defensive lightsaber combat style, this should indicate how much he feared sidious

  • @kennysalty6019
    @kennysalty6019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Something I personally like is, at the end, Maul really starts to stand up to Palpatine. They start to break even in the duel, trading the same blows, blocking perfectly. I think that in a straight saber duel, no directly using the force with no pushes and lightning, Palpatine vs Maul at that point is a 50-50. But Palpatine is smart, he knows damn well he can out-do Maul in the force easily, and just goes to finish the duel before there's any chance for that. It displays the skill of two true sith lords, but still shows that the strongest one comes out on top, no matter where that strength comes from.

    • @picklerick3588
      @picklerick3588 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know maul can keep up with sidious just like dooku can with yoda but eventually the apprentices will loose

  • @fabianfischer4229
    @fabianfischer4229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also love the deeper hum of Sidious's sabers.
    Makes him all the more menacing.

  • @AdamIqball
    @AdamIqball 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Canonically, Windu defeated Palpatine not because he was a superior dualist, but because he used a fighting style that absorbs the strength of dark side force users. Since Palpatine's fighting style relied heavily on the force to work, he could no longer perform many, if not most, of his moves in his arsenal, handicapping his performance.

  • @papafrank2894
    @papafrank2894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the way he says "the graphics are amazing"

  • @britanimations2002
    @britanimations2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wait is that Doctor Who music playing while you talk about your sponsor

  • @sheep715
    @sheep715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Palpatine walks in, killing two mandalorians without moving a muscle, he doesn't even look at them. He just walks through, smiling, as they are suffocated behind him

  • @DepFromDiscord
    @DepFromDiscord 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:07 that’s not entirely true. He yelled, “SAVE ME” but it was cut in the end, although you can see his lips moving.

  • @lexark
    @lexark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is my favorite lightsaber duel with obi wan vs maul in rebels being my second favorite.

  • @pwl2992
    @pwl2992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When full fat videos are sponsored: "a surprise to be sure but a welcome one"

    • @TheIshikawaRin
      @TheIshikawaRin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When it's sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends: *audible groan*

  • @jdbb3gotskills
    @jdbb3gotskills 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Talking about the Windu and sidious fight. I agree I think he felt Anakin coming so he threw the fight. Also he was only using 1 lightsaber so he wasn't fighting with his full ability. Like he planned the whole thing after Anakin said he will turn him into the Jedi counsel.

  • @Dusqu
    @Dusqu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:53 I felt so bad for Maul even though he’s one of the most powerful sith ever lol

  • @ryanwalthuis1928
    @ryanwalthuis1928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the music they use for palpatine. It’s dark and eerie almost scary.

  • @ashura9706
    @ashura9706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you finally find a video whose comments haven’t been deactivated

  • @tgirl_fangs
    @tgirl_fangs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:07 actually, anakin was supposed to beg to be saved, but it was cut due to the scene becoming too long. In fact, you can see him reaching his hand out and mouth the words "help me" they just muted it and cut Obi Wan's dialogue.

  • @catgirltreats
    @catgirltreats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Raid got you too, huh?

  • @generalgrievous3731
    @generalgrievous3731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They didn't leave it ambiguous. That's where the Son of Dathomir comic comes in.

  • @lostmydoll8715
    @lostmydoll8715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was comfirmed by Lucas that mace won because of his vaapad lightsaber style forged to use the darkside within his enemy and himself to win the battle especially against darkside users

    • @davidfisher9252
      @davidfisher9252 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well yes, but part of it may have been because he needed to lose for Anakin to take pity on him and join the dark side. He had a winning scenario whether or not he won or lost the duel.

    • @jacobrowe9226
      @jacobrowe9226 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Palpatine didn’t sit in that office for over a decade to get offed by one Jedi. He manipulated that entire situation.

    • @trevor7258
      @trevor7258 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Though vapaad is very strong and can be a logical explanation for windu winning the fight , it’s believed that was anakins final straw before becoming Vader . George Lucas is the creator of Star Wars but I’ve read he doesn’t know what is going on half of the tine

  • @Getloose360
    @Getloose360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The way Palpatine went in on Maul & Sauvage...I honestly didnt expect that level of BEAST. New found respect for Palps.

  • @mistertwister2000
    @mistertwister2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “This video is sponsored and approved by RAID: Shadow Legends”
    😬 Welp, guess it’s time to head out

  • @deeeeeeeejay1059
    @deeeeeeeejay1059 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another cool detail about this fight is the mural depicting the mandolorians fighting the Jedi. The mural just adds another layer of depth to this fight.

  • @shooshooshooshooshooter
    @shooshooshooshooshooter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:45 Mace fucked him up. Thank Vapaad