C8 Corvette Stingray Z51 Porsche drivers point of view
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- Let's take a drive in a Chevy Corvette C8, the new mid engine "Americas Sports Car"
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This was great, Nick. Hearing your giggle after mashing the gas pedal made my day. I love my 911 but was thankful to get a true Porsche guy's take on the Vette.
He's giggling like a little kid. Love it
Just discovered your channel. I have owned my share of Porsches, and love everything about them. I have never before owned a Corvette, but I now own a C8 w/z51 and mag ride and do the same laugh as you, Nick, when I get on the gas. Your comments about value are spot on. I consider my C8 to be a gift that for some reason GM decided we deserved before things change radically. I encourage all Porsche owners to go buy this car and add to your collection.
Considering trading in my 2017 base model 911 for a 2023 (70th anniversary) c8 z51 - think I should do it? I'm financing my car currently and would be able to lease this for about the same price - but not be tied to it for the long run
@@connorfrazier2576 Two fine cars. I'm afraid I can't offer advice as it's such a personal decision. It would be nice to have a new warranty, and btw I bought GM's platinum 100,000 mile warranty too.
@@connorfrazier2576 did you end up doing it? Im pondering the opposite move from a 2023 C8 Z51 to a 991.2 C4 or c4s so I can drive in the Albertan winter. I hate having the car sit in the garage.
@@jeromey194 I did not. I actually traded the 911 in for the new RR sport in April. Love the truck, but definitely miss my 911.
My father in law has the c8. I would say try the 911, only because of how unique the experience is. But the c8 is such a great car too
Did not expect I would be watching Nick driving a Corvette during my Monday morning shower but oh well!
I enjoyed non-biased review and Nick looked as happy as driving a 911 GT3 😂
You watch TH-cam in the shower?
@@slowanddeliberate6893 I watch Nick Murray in the shower. Not TH-cam
Really love that you are always honest and unbiased. Without worrying whether to upset the manufacturer or the car enthusiasts of each brand! Keep it up mate!!
This car is spectacular for the price, and its value proposition can be seen in just how many of them are on the road. People are actually buying these. Absolutely wonderful.
Yeah the C8 is somehow of a decent buy. But then you have to deal with the Salesmen trying to add “Market Adjustment” to it. Then deal with the transmission issues it’s been having per the Facebook group on C8 owners. Then that’s when you have to deal with the woefully awful service department. They are used to dealing with $10,000 to $25,000 cars. Not $90,000 cars. And it so totally shows. They think you’re rich and try to upsell you on things, just like the oil chain Jiffy Lube. I’m never getting another Corvette again. I dread having to deal with Chevrolet. They treat its customers like McDonalds do… next…
@@jasonknight5863 uhhhh..maybe you should change dealers.
@@jasonknight5863 I hate car dealerships. I test drove a Camaro RS and the salesman quoted me a ridiculously high price. I liked the car, but not that much. Two weeks later the salesman leaves me a voicemail saying "Great news, the price on that Camaro just came down $10k dollars." It was still $15k overpriced.
@@jasonknight5863 What a bunch of bullshit. Sealed auto technicians use service manuals provided by engineers to work on vehicles. They can work on any, brand, and any value of vehicle. It makes no difference.
Salesman try to upsell you on things? Omg; It's almost like, that's their job. Hahaha.
@@stillsearching1284 If car dealers were in the grocery business the entire world would starve to death. I don't understand how a whole industry can be so dedicated to NOT selling their product.
Such kind words from a Porsche Driver! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Fair play to Chevrolet for keeping the physical buttons, especially at that price point. I’ve never been a fan of seeing cost-cutting moves in luxury/performance cars as it seems like penny-pinching corporate behaviour
I don't think it's a matter of cost cutting but rather they see it as more luxurious or more modern to make them built into the touch screen. Personally I've yet to meet someone who likes having "touchscreen" style buttons or having everything incorporated into the screen. It's one of the worst design changes in recent cars. Hopefully manufacturers realize their mistake and go back to old fashion buttons. They are easier to use, especially for the driver. They are trying to stop people from distracted driving with cell phones and such yet they make the infotainment and climate controls take more attention than a phone would nowadays.
@@sinappanis its definitely an ergonomic nightmare to not have physical feedback. We're not robots yet.
@@sinappanis Touch screens reduce cost and complexity. The engineers usually push for it, now.
Until they try to own one for themselves, and they wish for toggle switches for every feature.
Thanks Nick, always appreciate your fresh and honest perspective. Agree, this is an amazing value.
Loving the semi-regular uploads again. Giving me a semi. Keep em coming Nick and let us know when you spec out your 992.2 Turbo Manual
What? Unbiased views? No fanboying? You earned a sub
Excellent comparative review! It's as much of a pleasure to hear the engine as it is to see you love the car. Keep up the good work.
I love my C8.
Absolutely zero compromise for me in styling and performance. As a base model car, it is above par. The models yet to come will astounding no doubt
I am a long time Porsche owner, and looking forward to a 992 as soon as I can get one, but I love my C8 HTC. Great video, credit to your unbiased review! BTW, the most surprising aspect of the C8 is the highway fuel mileage, I have done several 500Km trips at a steady 130kph and return 7.4L/100KM. ( cylinder deactivation of course)
I have a C8 optioned almost exactly like the one you reviewed. I love it. My previous two cars were 2014 Boxster S and 2018 M3. I would say that the dual clutch in the Boxster was slightly better than the C8, while the M3 was slightly worse. I enjoy the C8 much more than the Boxster and M3.
Dude!!! You’re back in something other than Porsche configurator videos.. great to see you back
1:53 Nick's menacing laugh tickles me every time ;). Love the color combo of Gray & Natural Leather looks amazing!
Will be looking forward to the future Nick review of the Z06. Thanks for the C8 drive.
Giving the people what they want. Love the vids.
Nice honest video Nick, can’t wait on your test drive on the ZO6!
No doubt, but one could also jokingly say the LT2 has its entire party before the GT3 engine starts its party lol.
With the gearing I’d say not missing any power anywhere up to about 130 mph. It does start to taper off as there isn’t anymore gearing and no additional top end.
Thanks Nick! Great video and vibe as always.
Dat giggle tho!!! Way to go, Kiwi...
Nick awesome vid as always ❤️❤️❤️
Well done, Nick.
Why I bought a certified 991.1 S in 2016 instead of a C7 Vette:
1. Rear Engine & Weight Bias
2. Dual Clutch
3. Front trunk ("Frunk")
4. Much better visibility
5. Better launch & 0-60 (on most models in my budget)
6. Better traction, cornering & damping.
Seems like the C8 has addressed literally all of these issues. Were I in "the game" again to spend 100k on a sports car, not sure if I would choose a certified 911 S or a new 'Vette!
100k definitely get 911 again. Below 80k then get a new stingray
The C8 Z51 smokes the 911S for performance for a lot less money just FYI.
I think of the porsche and corvette as dogs
The porsche is the dog that has had obedience lessons from a puppy and gets a trim every month and has official paperwork to back up it breed.
The vette is your shop dog
Not the best behaved or looking dog in the world,but gives you all its got (for better or worse) when required and is happy to live on left overs and a kennal in the yard.
Great video. Thanks Nick
Honest review from a Porsche driver. Well done
very nice video NICK !!
The license plate C88A4RE = 'C8 (the eighth-gen Corvette) ate a Ferrari"
😂 thx
Good job figuring it out.
I was struggling and my best guess was at “C8 ate A4 Rear End” Which made no sense but maybe the owner had some hate towards Audi A4 owners.
Yo, Nick! Great non-biased review! Wondering how far behind are your videos…the fall colors of the leaves are still amazing!
I own a 2012 C6 Convertible with the 6.2 and it's a beast and I giggle like a kid when I drive it. Enjoy Nick
Great video Nick. The C8 is a great car but after driving a few of the press cars, the car reaches redline just as the party is getting started. The 9,000 rpm redline of the Z06 should fix that.
8500*
Amen!
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@@maximlg253 yeah that. Fat fingered my phone and didn't catch it in time lol
Great review Nick. C8 is world class and it's great to see such a beautiful car at a more affordable price point. The used 911 prices have hit the stratosphere.
The new C8 is an excellent alternative to the 911.
Thanks for the review. Yeah, your thoughts for the Z06 will be interesting.
Great Review! Thanks!
Good honest review!
I was hoping this time we’d have no video and just audio. Then I heard you talk. (Great vid. 😊)
Nick. You're nailing it buddy!
You treated the subject matter in a way that should please even the most die hard "Porsche guys are snobs" motorhead. I say "should" because this is the internet after all.
Loved the nostalgia drop in with that great story from your early adulthood. And yes, the car is amazing. I want one. Desperately.
Along with one or two legendary cars from Zuffenhausen as well!
We live in an era with an embarrassment of engineering riches to pilot. It's pretty cool and keeps me excited while we lurch forward slowly on the whole human rights thing.
Thank God, 'cause that nonsense is incomprehensible to this logistician.
Great vid!
Nicely done sir.
welldone. amazing job, very professional.
Awesome review ...
Beautiful machine!
Where I live those cars are a dime a dozen. Personally I like the styling of the c7 more than the c8. However I can't argue with the performance per dollar. But the c8 z06 looks very promising 👌🏽
C7 styling much better than c8. If Chevy can fix the hideous rear and side intakes they’ll absolutely corner the supercar market with the zo6
Love the ending (got a good laugh from that). Thanks for posting this.
Fun video from a porche enthusiast. Cheers
Zora is smiling down from heaven on Chevy right now
Great video! I have always had a soft spot for Porsche but have a history of Corvette ownership as well. It's refreshing to hear a Porsche fan giving marks to the Corvette where it deserves them, instead of approaching it with snobbery as many Porsche purists would.
To be fair the C8 has gone way upscale compared to previous corvettes.
@@jeffk464 you're absolutely right, my C6 couldn't dream of being comparable to this. But snobs will be snobs and find other things to dislike ;)
The C8 is an acquired taste it seems. I rented one for a week because I was seriously looking to buy one. I really praised the engineering of the car overall with the mid engine layout and aluminum construction. The ride quality is superb on our horrible busted NYC roads and it has great seats and a killer audio system but the engine i did not love the sound or power delivery of the old school pushrod lump behind my head. The steering is not as precise and sharp as the exotic Mclaren styling would dictate and the build quality not so great or even close to a Porsche in any regard with paint, panel gaps and interior surfaces. I still like the car overall and would not mind having one to customize and modify and the new Z06 really has my serious interest if I could even buy one for a fair price I think i would not hesitate. I also love the 911 GT3 and 718 GT4 and Spyder which are all amazing cars. We will see which one I pick up soon.
Not even close comparing build quality to Porsche!!!
The C8 could have been so much better but instead:
• Has taillights from a down line car (Camaro)!!!
• Square steering wheel - why not make it triangular?!!!
• Transmission problems already on a fake supercar?!!!
• Interior & exterior styling done by amateurs!!! Look at the Huracan Tecnica (see TH-cam video and take a look at how stunning the Tecnica is)!!!!
• HVAC controls with buttons down a rail separating driver & passenger - who thinks of nonsense like this?!!! It is not stylish nor functional and is infact a pain in the ass to use!!!
• Build quality worse than any major sports car manufacturer!!! Search TH-cam on all owner reported problems on the C8 platform many not even related to the C8!!!
This is a great car to review because many 911 owners would definitely want to know about this car
Nick giggling like a Detroit schoolgirl ❤
I just turned 9,000 miles in my C8 today. Love it.
Enyoyed your video review as it was more than fair.
I enjoy exotics, and one happens to be a 2018 991 GT3 in the garage. I actually bought a 2022 C8 Z51 with the track package as a surprise for my wife. It is the 3rd corvette she has had. Let me say she is really enjoying the C8.
I've driven it on several occasions and twice tracking her car (which is best way to enjòy snd really test the handling of this car). I was quite impressed. On a scale of 10 I will give it an 8, which for the price influenced thatvrating.
I actually took her to the Spring Mountain Motor Resort in Pahrump, NV to have some fun and really see its ability. Excellent experience and no surprise she ran circles around the other non professional driver's.
Since March of 2022 she has over 12k miles, is more than I have onb the 2018 911 GT3.
Remember a happy wife is a blessing!😊
Something about the signature proper music and this beast in the frame.
Thanks Nick , Good one 👍 First mid-engine Vette I'd say is a pretty spectacular first time at bat for GM . Z06 engine is Sick , do a little deep dive on that one . Maybe the last and greatest NA V 8 ... 5.5L 8500 redline 670hp
He stated it was a pushrod... NO WAY ?? Are you Serious ?? Not Overhead Cam ??? Ever herd the term, "Threw a rod" ? Someone, Set this straight.
Well done. Looks like a really nice car.
I have a C8, I feel so good when I drive it!
Nick, you should try to get your hands on a Z06 to test. With its insane sounding flat plane crank V8, it takes what is great about the Z51 to a far more exotic level and it's still a bargain relative to the likes of Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren, etc.
Great review!! Would like to see you take it to an actual track!😏. The performance is amazing & if you need a boost in power then Late Model Racecraft(LMR) are the guys! They build the quickest Corvettes(all models) out there! Good luck on getting a hold of a ZO6 though!:(
Man, I just placed my order of C8 this morning , as a 991.2 owner
I took possession of my new C8 Z51 about 6 weeks ago. Same Hypersonic Gray outside, but black suede with Edge Red trim interior. This is my 5th Vette, going back to my '97 C5, '99 convertible 6 speed, to a '13 Grand Sport C6, to the last model '19 Grand Sport. As awesome as each was for its time, the C8 Z51 is exponentially superior in virtually every way. It is the easiest car to drive fast over any car I've ever driven. The interior quality is amazing, the exterior styling is exquisite, and the launch control will peel your face back. I loaded up the specs when I ordered it, so it came to about $92k MSRP, which fortunately was all I had to pay from a local dealer. ($98k out the door.) I can fit 2 sets of golf clubs in the trunk and a full airplane carry on in the frunk. Gas mileage is fairly decent, when my foot doesn't get too heavy. My insurance rates are reasonable, having a good driving history. I can't imagine how another $50k+ for a Z06, or another $100k+ for a 911 or even more for a Ferrari, McLaren, or a Lamborghini would be worth the premium over this car. At least not for my non-track purposes of a weekend cruiser and carver. I get there are a lot of them on the road at this point, but it still gets a boat load of compliments.
Definitely in love with this new C8 Stingray Vette! GM definitely shocked the world with this masterpiece! Great looks,great sound,great interior & materials and above all the value is just unbelievable! Never would imagine this in a million years but here it is at last! The Cien concept comes to mind when I think of this C8 though it was only a concept it showed what GM could produce when they make up their minds! Now give us another Camaro offering for a last hoorah with better design and & venerable rumbling V8 for old time sake! C'mon Chevy you can doit !😜
Very beautiful car!!!!
Thanks Nick,
I value your comments. You said some things that left me with a deeper impression of the C8.
The only thing it lacks is the feedback through the steering wheel that you get with a Porche or a McLaren. It is still very precise but not in the level of feedback.
It would need to be lighter and the steering setup much differently. I don't think you can have that and still have all the other benefits of this car.
It is precise but just not a scalpel... and it may never be that and still be a Corvette.
Gord
try a lotus evora gt or emira and elise final eidtion and exige 430, they say their better, evora emira are hydrallic steering and others are manual, great but just not mch power, ferrari v6 sounds great despite the turbo and lot of power. a flat 6 swap is argueably the way to go
With the engine in the back…the low profile pushRod 16 valves V8 was no longer requIred for forward visibility and low profile ….with a modern power plant Nordstar, Coyote etc ..or a heavily boosted Light V6, this would be a real super car for a sporty coupé price..
Nice report...totally PRO...thanks...!
Good music choice on this video
You are having some fun, Nick 1:55
I wish I could say: “ ‘Bout time you drove a real car, Nick!” however, given a choice I would be the biggest Porsche fan boy on the planet(like you 😂) great review, as always 👍
I’d love to see your reaction to the Z06 with its flat plane
You look good in the Vette Nick :)
I just hope for the future facelift, they could clean up the rear a bit more. That's the only part I really don't like about the C8.
I can't knock anything about the performance of the vehicle, however, aesthetically I don't like anything about it.
your cackles. love it.
Yes. Every time he gets on it a bit.
Nick, Really great to see you enjoying the C8 and focusing and the positive. It's almost unheard of these days of pretend car reviewers that try to nit pick and create controversy with snobby comments about Corvettes that really aren't even true.
I have had and dailyed 911's &. Corvettes on a off for 43 years and I enjoy both brands. The point that almost all reviewers miss is that most places in the US have no, or very limited good roads to use a Porsche and the truth is it is hard to justify the usual precision driving experience advantage that Porsches tend to have vs's the higher power & fun per dollar of the Corvettes. Just a thought, but thanks for a great review and focusing on how when you get more choices there is no loser in the marketplace only another great option.
I’m a big Porsche guy (my dad owned a 356C) but I really appreciate what Chevrolet has made the Corvette into,
Ferrari licensed the Magnetic Ride suspension tech from GM. They also have a square steering wheel in some of their models now too! Great review and sub’d!
Many cars use the magnetic ride from GM.
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Porsche channel? Ouch that hurts ... i found your channel and felt in love with it, when you hat the M4. 😅😂
Gotta see you in a z06 Nick!
Nice review, cheers Nick. Yeah, in 'Merica the value would be hard to ignore! In RHD markets (UK or here in Australia) they've jacked the price massively which blunts the appeal somewhat but still an impressive car
Not sold on the looks of it. Same price as a base 911 here in the UK. Think I'd take the Porsche. The fuel economy blunts its appeal at over 7 USD a gallon here. 😲
I’m getting 26 MPG out of my C8 HTC Z51 so not sure what your talking about. And that’s with 500HP. Talk about looks the 911 hasn’t changed it’s basic body style since the 1960’s. Butt ass ugly.
Love the location, Fall in Connecticut it doesn't get much prettier than that.
The 8600 RPM Z06 will be the one to get.
If yo have $160K and that is withou ADM.
@@JoseHernandez-yw9iu 120k for 2LT and wait a year. Nobody other than fools and ultra rich pay addendum for first year cars.
Great review of an awesome car. Love the Vette. Moved from 88 Mustang GT to 85 Vette to 19 Boxster. Great color on the C8
I love the 1988 Mustang GT convertible. My friend had one. We did a video about his car and it came out great, unfortunately he sold the car.
They look amazing. Good ole' American muscle.
As a GT3 guy ( 3 of them ) I like the C8 but I’d probably only go for the z06. I’ve driven the c7 z06 and that’s a car!
I wonder what the C8 Zora or ZR1 will be. Would you consider those?
The giggle says it All!...👋😏👍
I own a 21’ Targa 4 and a 22’ Boxster GTS and a 23’ Panamera and just traded my GT4 for a 911/992 T - but I also have a c8 convertible being built on December 19. The big difference is that the c8 seems like a much larger and less nimble “sports car” than say the 911 or 718 particularly. The c8 insulates you more from the road and it feels very large going around corners. A fantastic value given all the standard options that Porsche charges extra money for but the quality is not the same in regards to leather quality and upholstery and materials in the cabin. But I think it is a necessary car to own in a collection of modern sports cars and I really like the motor driven convertible top- I am looking forward to taking delivery of a 23’ c8 in mid January. Also keep in mind that Porsche builds 5,000 911 each year and Chevy will build 30,000 c8’s in 2023. I have never ever seen another 992 Targa on the road in two years. My answer is to own one of each! I love both the brands --
Really enjoyed your take on the Corvette. Great value for sure. I see tons of them out on the roads. No way I would trade my 911 for a Corvette but to each his own. The Corvette people have a great car and more money left in the bank:)
drive one, you might change your mind
@@jonathanwright8802 No need to drive - just look at the hideous styling!!!
Stop with all the nonsense and wake up!!! The C8 could have been so much better but instead:
• Has taillights from a down line car (Camaro)!!!
• Square steering wheel - why not make it triangular?!!!
• Transmission problems already on a fake supercar?!!!
• Interior & exterior styling done by amateurs!!! Look at the Huracan Tecnica (see TH-cam video and take a look at how stunning the Tecnica is)!!!!
• HVAC controls with buttons down a rail separating driver & passenger - who thinks of nonsense like this?!!! It is not stylish nor functional and is infact a pain in the ass to use!!!
• Build quality worse than any major sports car manufacturer!!! Search TH-cam on all owner reported problems on the C8 platform many not even related to the C8!!!
@@LWRC Search TH-cam to see the price of GT3!! Search TH-cam to see the annual maintenance costs of a Porsche and especially when you need parts. Search TH-cam to see how much it costs to fly in Lambo or McLaren techs to work on your car. Keep SEARCHING!!!
@@sonicmoj1 I don't need to fly in mechanics to work on my Lamborghini!! So are you saying GM has zero design talent because that's exactly vehat they did on the C8!!
@@LWRC Okay captain obvious. What happens when someone purchases a Lambo or a McClaren and lives in the corn fields of Kansas and knows how to drive the vehicle but hasn't a clue of working on one. You're telling me people feel comfortable taking the Lambo or 720s to nearby Joe's mechanic and subway shop??!?!?!? LMAO on that one! So if they don't feel dropping their vehicle off at Jiffy Lube or Jimmy's repair, then they start to look at official authorized repair centres. Is there A LAMBO OR MCLAREN AT EVERY CORNER IN THE MIDWEST????
As a die hard Porsche fan for life, I have to admit I’ve shifted my focus to a corvette when my daughter is out of college. There is no comparison between the two for the dollars.
would be interested to hear your thoughts on the new Corvette Z06?
Before I bought my Targa 4S this year, I considered the Corvette. Very impressive but way too in your face styling. I like the smooth styling of Porsche. Put wings on her and she is an airplane.
The juxtaposition of the elegant music with the cuts of the car 😂
Had a 2020 C8. Transmission and water pump failure at 100 miles. Sat on a lift for one month. Sold it at 1000 miles due to a bad ECU and 6 recalls for more than I paid MSRP. Bought a 2013 991.1 C2S Cab with 2800 miles. Never looking back. Porsche...there is no substitute.
Nice, almost unbiased, review. I say almost because of the underlying notion that Porsche is somehow more of a “scalpel” vs the Vette “sledgehammer “…lol. It would be really great to see a skilled driver review these cars who had never experienced either brand…but it’s probably not possible to find such a person. This comparison shows a very very expensive cost for the differences in performance considering the 911 initial price and ongoing maintenance costs. But money really isn’t the controlling factor for car guys and automotive decisions. $100k, $200k even $1mill+ for a car? No person would spend like we do in a rational world.
Too funny seeing the car going down route 25 in Bridgeport CT!
My first time watching your channel. I’ve owned 5 corvettes including my current C8. Really enjoyed your commentary. Should I sub....?
Would like to see your reaction to the new Z06.
Awesome a Porsche guy actually giving props to the c8 vette. That shows how far the corvette moved up with the eighth gen.
This car is insane value for $$
Great vid as always! Licence plate C88A4RE - C8 ate a Ferrari?