Firing a Primer only? What happens?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- Fire a primer in a gun with the bullet and powder removed? lets find out!! here i removed a 380acp projectile and powder from a case, then shot it! It was a little loud, and there was a cool fireball. that it! haha. the gun is CZ82.
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I am sure I’m not the only one sitting here with an emptied out casing thinking about doing this.
me too
What happened? Did you damage your ears?
@@ConsensusX I chose not to try it
@@Cgrazi 😂😂 c'mon now. I know u wanna know loud it is. I haven't either lol. Only because I don't have any empty shells and I'm too scared to take a bullet apart.
@@ConsensusX I unfortunately don’t have it anymore, tossed it in a move. Just yank the bullet out with pliers, dump the powder, and try it for yourself. Or load the now bullet/powder-less case into a gun and do it that way.
exactly what I wanted to see, I was very curious. thank you.
Makes you think twice about the process you use for seating primers into cases. Thanks for sharing
That’s what i thought too.
My brother did that once at the house. It was plenty loud.
Take out the bullet and powder, then roll up a ear plug and put it into the case. Now shoot it.
You can target practice in your basement.
MascotAL GENIUS!
If you fire a primer in your gun with no bullet or powder, the chamber will not develop any pressure. Therefore the slide will not move and the empty case will not eject.
@@Mascotal the earplug method is still good for revolvers.
@@Mascotal Thats not how forces work. There is presure against the slide but its so tiny as to not matter vs springs.
Put the case with primer on a bench, and light the primer with a torch, and the case will go backwards, mostly.. explain that.
@@jmkhenka In fact it does work. Drill out the primer pocket to make it slightly larger. Otherwise the spent primer will back out. Then you can shoot ear plugs.
I’m def gonna be using this as a scare tactic 😂*NEVER AIM YOUR MUZZLE AT ANYTHING YOU ARENT READY TO SHOOT*
Thanks, i been wondering what would happen because I've never tried it. Always better to watch someone else try it haha.
"80 decibels, maybe 83"
That’s a pretty significant difference. 83 is literally twice as loud as 80
+6dB, not +3, is x2, so it would be 50% bigger. it's still a decent difference, but quite reasonable, especially due do human perception of sound.
You certainly can’t do math 😂😂
@@Acidburn3141 you do know the decibel scale is logarithmic right
@@Acidburn3141 dB's are not fixed data, so you are the wrong one here.
@@keeganst.christian3909 I don't think he even knows what Logarithm means.
There is those japanese cap guns that actually fires primer only bullet shells but they made from plastic so gun slide can move.
CHEEZAS FILMS wow that is cool! I had no idea!
they are not made from plastic at all
I have a full metal mgc beretta 92 and it ejects with special mgc caps, which are more powerful than primers.
is it like this? th-cam.com/video/_dYVtQLPjgk/w-d-xo.html
@@FloofyTanker th-cam.com/video/zgkoFT1bc7Y/w-d-xo.html
Always nice to see a fellow CZ user! I have an 82 in 9x18 Mak that I absolurely love.
Yes, I LOVE those guns. The cz83 was my first cz pistol, and there have been quite a few since ha!
@@GunsWithGage CZ in general is simply my go-to manufacturer as far as firearms go. My next goal is to get another CZ 75b Omega! Been kicking myself in the ass ever since I sold my first one.
Great video, answered all my questions and concerns thanks for sharing!
I was putting together a 300 blackout and my headspace gauges were still 2 days away so I decided to make my own go gauge out of a 300 case but all I had was factory loads. Stuck the ammo in a vise and pried the bullet out and emptied the gun powder and had my own generic go gauge with the primer still in it. I still have it laying around somewhere and have been curious to shoot it. Watching this makes me more confident I won’t accidentally damage anything in the basement lol
Did you ever fire it?
My guess is that a primer alone wouldn't have enough power to dislodge the bullet.
I was very curious. Exactly what I expected to happen. Thank you
You need a bullet being pushed forward to push the slide back. This is how a blowback design works. Pressure is trapped between the bullet and the case/slide that moves the bullet and slide at the same time. No bullet = no slide movement.
Its the gunpowder, equal and opposite reaction, bullet goes forward, casing goes back
Right!! You don’t actually need a bullet to go forward you can actually cap off the barrel and the pressure is going to only have one way to go which is backwards don’t really know if it’s still enough pressure to cycle another round though depending on the recoil spring as well if its a really light one chances are it’ll knock the slide all the way back but with a heavy recoil spring/guide rod then probably not
Im suprised most people havnt done this. I did this for fun with shotgun shells. Its fun disecting them to see whats in them then discharging the primer in the gun.
Very interesting. If you reattached the bullet without the gunpowder, would the primer be enough the eject the bullet?
DB Cooper yeah, I remember when that happened. Brandon was off camera. The other actor (with the gun) was being filmed but still aimed directly at Bradon's belly. Crazy. Today all gun wranglers and prop personnel on sets (because of that incident), all look down the barrel before handing a gun over to an actor. So tragic. Another actor back in the day accidentally killed himself playing Russian roulette on a set using a gun with a blank in it.
Joez86 looking down a barrel is stipid... should use a cleaning rod and feel
@@Joez86Brandon Lee?
Real guns should never even be on set.
@@Game-The-System it was Model and actor Jon-Erik Hexum back in the 80's.
I did this with a 12ga. Shotshell in my apt bedroom. Stuck the barrel in a bunched up blankie and POW! It was still damn loud and made my baby dirty dirty dirty.
I would do that in a more well ventilated area, primers contain lead usually as a component and you don’t want to be breathing that.
Pop a foam ear plug in the case for a souped up Nerf gun.
Was in my house today, And unloaded the powder from a case of a 9mm so i could shoot the primer off (In my muffled garage) so i could have a "Dud" round to cycle through my gun, And that sucker was LOUD!
JoyfullSpartian300 haha YESSIR! I was really surprised when I shot it. I put ears on the 2nd shot haha
I was about to do that to test out a trigger on a gun i havent fired yet. Might just pick up some snap caps. lol
Newton law, there is no reaction of because no pressure building up against, that why no recoil happened
Thanks! I just got a case of Blazer Brass and it must of got dropped. I found 8 bullets that got pushed way too far in the cartridge. So I pulled the bullets and was left with primer in cases. Now I have some snap gun rounds. Haha, thanks again. I haven't got to reloading YET.
Awesome experiment. Stay safe
I put a spring kit in my J frame 642. Wanted to make sure I would get a good primer strike so I pulled 5 rounds apart and chambered the brass with only the primers. Got 5 nice pops but it backed the primers out of 4 of them. What caused that? Factory Federal loads before I used the bullet puller on them. Any thoughts on why they backed out?
Don't know but same thing here, federal loads. Pushed the primer out a bit.
Wow that is very interesting. I wonder if the cartridge normally puts alot of pressure on the case head keeping the primers seated in normal loads, and when there is no back pressure, it let the primers back out?
Same deal for me and I came here looking for that info!
Mine was simply destroying primers for disposal though (dented due to reloading issue)
Keep your orange foam earplugs to use as soft bullets…primer is enough to shoot them across the room
I have a serious question. A lot of people heard the story of how Brandon Lee died while filming the Crow. A dummy round was loaded but they didn't removed the primer so it was lodged in the barrel when the trigger was pulled. Then they loaded in the blanks and when fired, the blanks launched the dummy round out killing Lee. My question is how would anybody not heard heard an explosion from when the gun had a dummy round with the primer in it? You'd think somebody on set might've said something.
Simple answer, the bullet of the dummy round was pressed into the rifling and since the primer alone can't move the slide the sound was much more muffled because the barrel was obstructed plus the slide still closed. This is basically how some purposely made suppressed guns work, leaving the slide closed.
Being before the internet, I never heard all the details on the Brandon Lee accident. But what I remember hearing never made sense to me.
Supposedly it happened during the scene in which there is a whole room of people shooting at Brandon and that "somehow" a live round was in one of the guns used.
If you put a foam ear plug in the barrel, you can play cowboy and indian!
Steve this is the best idea ever.....
GunsWithGage I think people use the ear plugs plus much reduced powder charges in revolvers to pop balloons for exhibition shootings. But the primer alone with the plugs or rolled up toilet paper are enough to have some fun in the livingroom :-)
Wax boolits.
DIY rat shot ? Add some pellets and a plug .
I cut a shotgun round in half and emptied it. Took the adjuster piece from my crutch and got curious if it would set the primer off. Scared the piss out of me and lightly burned my hand. I never did find the casing. Thought I blew my finger off for a second.
Could you take a shot shell primer apart and show us what's inside of it before it's been shot?
I’ve done this and it’s way more than 80 decibels. Unless you were using an actual decibel meter and not some BS app, you probably didn’t get a legitimate reading. It’s closer to 130-140 decibels.
I did that test too once, of course, I knew the slide was not going to be blown back without the actual powder and bullets pressure. Is that green box of Cascade for cleaning brass cases? How's it work for you?
Any idea how loud in decibels 22 quiet rounds are? Just as a comparison.
150ish out of a handgun, 115ish out of a rifle.
Good thing there wasn’t any powder laying around
You mean a keg of gunpowder or a tray of gasoline? I mean you could say that about lighting a match in the house, good thing there was not a fuse leading to a stick of dynomite. Come on man.
Bob what you going on about? 😂
@@Physics072 It's a reloading bench. It has reloading components. Gunpowder is a reloading component. It is therefore reasonable to assume there is gunpowder nearby. Gunpowder can be ignited by a primer. Ignited gunpowder goes boom. Boom is bad.
@@Snubrevolver He has a yard and he probably has gasoline. Good thing he did not shoot the can of gas that is nearby too. I worry about him. Good thing he did not put the barrel into a keg of gunpowder.
@@Physics072I bet you reseat your primers too
put some exploding target prills in the empty case and use a string and mount to pull the trigger, and see what the bullet will go through, i know from experience a primer will set that stuff off
Adam R that sounds awesome! So try to use tannerite as gun powder?
GunsWithGage yes its super safe and ok, jk. but maybe you can do in a controlled way so it will be safe. Actually it probably wouldn't be good with tanerrite cuz the gun most likely would explode. however try using flash powder instead that might be better it's not as explosive as Tannerite, no where close yet it's still very powerful and this may cause the bullet to actually shoot out instead of blowing up the gun depending on how thick the walls are of the barrel and if it could take the load from The Flash, not sure if flash is good at moving a projectile like gunpowder is but if the pressure cant exscape because it's not powerful enough to blow up the walls of the barrel then it has to send the bullet flying out and I'm just curious at what speed it would be flying out at since flash burns way faster than gunpowder and even explodes under confinment.
80db is the noise level at a busy street corner.
Hey do you know if there is any recoil when you fire just the primer on a shotgun
@@LILxPEEPUS Definitely not. Kids in block and I used to build toy guns out of wood and only fired percussion caps. It was cheap and fun.
@@Aviator168 oh thanks man helped out a lot
I did that with 12 gauge with a screwdriver and an Hammer. Dont do it without ear protection guys
So don’t try to take the primer out of shotgun shell gotcha😂
Cool i wanted to try this. Any damage happen to the pistol?
Nope, just fine!
Could you collect primer 'compound' , out of primers, granulate it and mix it in with gunpowder? Will that work? Maybe 10% ratio
thats how you make a suicide round... (rounds filled with high explosive to purposely cause a catastrophic failure)
So basically just shooting blanks.
I literally just did this and I was honestly surprised on how loud it actually is without the gun powder…. It didn’t make my ears ring but it was a lot a lot louder then I expected I’ve done it with .22 LR numerous times and it’s nowhere near as loud as a .380 blank with no powder and no bullet it sounded like a firecracker to be honest
Did mine with a 12 gauge. Spooked me a little bit. I had it in my hand and was hit by a blast of air and a loud noise. I was trying to make a weird type of cannon from a crutch and needed to figure out if the piece would work as a firing pin. I never knew primers were that loud
308 primer is probably much louder
I am a safety freak, so I will try it at the range
I just dropped in a lighter striker spring in, and I was planning on doing this tomorrow to make sure it's igniting primers before my range trip. But I don't know now. Is it loud enough to alert a noisy neighbor if I did it in my garage??
@@joes.7536 👍😉
never do that at home - it is much louder than you can expect.
louder than an oldschool cap gun? im tryin to punch out a 9mm pak blank primer but im afraid to set it off. Dont wana scare the neighbors.
@@PFunk609 yes, louder than cap gun. But if you do it inside the home - your neighbors will not be scared too much. Just give notice to your family member and do it in isolated room
Gotcha. Thnx for the info. What about upstairs neighbors. Also if i epmty the powder out of the blank cartridge first, then soak it in water will the primer still go off if i shoot it?
@@PFunk609 have no idea
@@someguy9607 only 1 way to find out. thnx again.
Im wondering the primer alone can fire bbs or pellet if you stick them in the empty bullet shells just sealed them in the shells to create a litte pressure
Fill the whole case with primers instead of powder.
I know you won't see this but can you put a projectile into it and see if it shoots and how powerful it is
Always wondered but was never dumb enough to actually try it inside my house....taking bets on just how long you’ll last
Lol i did this today on accident with my .25 acp 😭😭😂😂 i thought i got shot for a second
now its a cap gun
shooting a primer-only brass would be good practise for speed on a quick draw and fire. You cant tell your accuracy, but if you have to draw fast and shoot, chances are the guy is already within 10 feet of you. This could be a great training tool without going to the range or spending tons of money. Perfect your speed draw and shoot , THEN work on accuracy with live rounds at the range. Completely safe. Good Vid, Thanks
I do this all time after I disect 12 g rounds.
Could you strike it in a vice with out the gun and powder would it be safe?
yeah I actually tried that ha.
I seen a gun Smith do this when he stripped a bullet so I could make a key ring
Have used small pistol primer with anvil for sale? I need 1 pound
What happens when there is a bullet but still no powder?
Something very bad.
@waptek0 ahhh so thats how he died eh.
squib load
Hey man is there any recoil when you fire a just a primer
We can find out!
My question is how fast the bullet would come out if you put it back in the casing. Would it even make it out of the barrel? XD
It does not make it out of the barrel it’ll get lodged. Happened to me once, had to lube up the barrel and hammer it out with a wooden dowel. Accidentally missed putting powder in a case somehow with a 9mm reload.
neat
Is tat what happens when you shoot blanks?
Watching you waste primers in 2021...😳
how about primer and real bullet only..no powder.... in a proper weapon....whats the penetration..
i cant believe no one has ever tried this
If the bullet was able to make it into the rifling it would likely become stuck in the gun..
Everyone who has ever had a squib round has tried this, bullet won't leave the barrel
not even a squib?
Kinda looks like an outside experiment... just sayin
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Trying to figure out if I can put blue confetti in for a gender reveal? I don’t want the fireball to infinite them lol. Maybe a plastic separator in between the primer and confetti to stop it. Thanks for sharing
Bert Longbottom that would probably work, you can even use a shotgun shell with primer only just cut the end of a shotgun shell and remove all the contents then put the wadding back in then you can put the blue confetti
@@KClO3 Thanks, I was thinking of normal reloading and forgot all about the wad! Thanks again
@@dirtrida274 will you use a shotgun?. my grandpa teached me with primer only with only the wad and a little bit of paper instead of confetti, actually you should do a test shot first so it doesnt shoot it too far
@@KClO3 True, I will try.
GUNS ARE NOT TOYS!!
...was this a shock???
Marcus S: snarky...Probably not, but he answered his question and mine too.
epic, put a apple in front of it, watch it explode.
So really nothing happens? its safe?
Yup! after making this video, I put some foam ear plugs in the cases and shot them around the room hah
Is it dangerous that i have one in my glove box? It still has the bullet. Just no gunpowder
Nope!
It is only dangerous if you forget and fire it.