@@user-si2sn5gw7b lol when words become mainstream and people don’t even use it correctly. Jalen HOF in other types of games. You too young to understand
@@frankiey9943 It's from a Ye track called so appalled from my dark twisted Fantasy. Jay is featured on it. Also if you haven't listened to that whole project I think it's ye at his best personally.
The numbers are just going up. That was one of the biggest contracts at the time. To put it into perspective jerami grant is getting 20 mil this year and gil highest year was 18
@@Sheepskin501 grant is worth more than 20 million just saying, had he gone into free agency with the numbers he has right now, he would be getting paid in the high 20s possibly the 30s
@@kwamewade915 cause people care about their teams and don't want cap space wasted on players who arent playing that well. They could spend that money on other players who are worth it.
@@kwamewade915 if your goal is to win chips then you can correctly say someone is overpaid. Devin Booker, Kat, Dlo, and a bunch of other players aren't max contract players but they still end up taking up a 3rd of the cap
@@alexescutia4805 lol, how tf you would win MIP player 3 times. You would be avg 50, 20 and 15 by the third time you win it coming from a 30, 10, 10 season.
I like the fact that he's speaking of his front office how they actually took care of Gilbert and paid him wat they rightfully thought he was worth, let's U know how he was valued in that franchise
@@darrendent8288 Obviously the market has changed. That was ridiculous money back then, but that's our point. Looking back at that contract now, it doesn't seem so outrageous.
@@peteypab16 no where near top 3 when Gilbert as his prime Kobe LeBron Wade Duncan Melo KG Dirk Amare Paul Pierce is just a few players that was better than him I can add atleast 5-6 others before I get to Gilbert
Abe Pollin and Jerry Buss were prob the last trustworthy owners left in the league at that time. Guys who treated their stars like family and not just a employee.
@@doubarakonugah9019 Mark Cuban is straight like that I think. So is Jeanie Buss. They delayed the Lakers rebuild for 2/3 years to pay Kobe so he could make it through that last season.
He was overpaid, everyone questioned his health since the knee injury and they were right to question it. Skill wise he was great but it's purely about his health
Respect Stephen A for that. He's right, everyone watches him he's the branch from the old school to now. Just hold the new players to the same standards as old school. He's really backed into a corner some times.
Eh... Can't help but think he's slightly bending this tho. He has a platform on ESPN for doing controversial takes to bring in viewers. It's personally something I don't care for honestly. 🤷🏿♂️
@@igraham125 it just seems like he always brings it up and highlights money when it comes to load management, or injuries, or being out for personal reasons, like he never took a sick day on first take and left us with the terrible back up analyst
@@marcosjuarez1490 nah the most underachieving player in NBA history is SHAQ. lol. dude should’ve been at least a 8 time champ but he didn’t put the work in
That old school mentality is why we behind. Shouldn’t the older people not want the next generation to struggle and face what they did? In that case should we all be slaves now cus our ancestors went through it
It's the responsibility of NBA players and their agents to get the best they can get for their player, while, at the same time, leaving enough for the team to be able to pay enough talent to be able to get a ring. That's business. However, when it comes to the game itself and its integrity that's art and that's what people like Stephen A. Smith and other journalists should pay attention to.
@@jamesonedwardsii4943late response, but yeah it’s not their responsibility to focus on how the other’s eat. But if they’re concerned about legacy and respect as an all time great, they can’t complain about the teams shortcomings when they could have controlled the destiny by taking a little less so that others could have more
How can this dude, who's grossly overpaid to be a talking head, even consider saying a real life NBA superstar was OVERPAID??? He put in his work, took a spot in the headlines, and won games his team shouldn't have been competitive in. Injuries happen. Hopefully, Stephen A. will get tongue cramps, and stfu.
@@ryanboehm8487 And Gil wasn't overpaid either. He was also an entertainer. Stop acting like the NBA is only about wins and losses. It's about generating revenue. Just like EPSN. SAS is just paid to keep salaries down.
@@_gamepoint_ I remember, I can't remember who said it tho I think it was Gilbert Arenas who said "If the fans only knew how some of the players felt and spoke about the game & fans, and getting their pay checks..
Why is that Jerry west, Kareem, and Bill are the only ones who seen to remember that loosing 6 times didn't mean shit compared to what you faced? This narrative shit is old and destructive to the validity of history and it's sickening. Next thing we gone start hearing is how unskilled shaq was and how horrible of a shooter kobe was smfh
This is what you get with opinion based star arguments. Yes, I said it exactly how mean it. People will run to a specific stat to make their case and will sell it as fact. Context matters.
Yeah but the work Gil put in to get to the point of signing the $111 contract can't be ignored. Hell the Wizards haven't even been any good ever since Gil left.
SAS is stupid, life is not about what you're worth Michael Jordan was worth more than the 3 million that he was making with the bulls prior to 1996 so was Scottie Pippen life is about relationships, seizing opportunities presented to you and the ability to negotiate. Gilbert did what he was supposed to do he cultivated the relationship with the owner and he was able to negotiate a big pay day period. SAS doesn't understand life that's why he works around the clock on ESPN. Work smarter not harder.
Stephen A Smith-The man who makes 10 mil a year to be wrong on his takes MOST of the time compared to AGENT 00 who despite what his accolades show, was one of the greatest scorers of the 00’s and arguably of all time💯
i dont understand how he could have been overpaid. he was our best player and that's what the wiz offered based off what he had done and hoped for going forward. idk why we blame the players for taking the money
He's was an all star sure. But he wasn't a superstar. He wasn't gonna win a championship. Max dollars should go to guys who you can build around for years to come. Gilbert almost immediately got injured the next season and ain't been a all star since.
@@colinnixon7739 i don't disagree with what you're saying at all, just isn't the way the league goes with contracts. At the time, it did feel like he was a main component of our success, but alas we are a poverty franchise lol
Nothing worse than old school players and commentators that want to hate on current players who did not change the game, but simply adjusted to changes that have occurred, both in the league and outside the league. Stephen is overpaid.
@@Sean360Lennox Lol hell to the no they don't. You're telling me someone like Julius Randall or whoever you think is the best player on the Knicks deserves a super max? Only something like the top 5 players in the league should be getting the super max and they should be the standard. You don't give KD or Giannis the super max and give Donovan Mitchell a super max too. You're already behind the 8 ball if your best player is not accounting for the same production as someone else's best player, but they're both getting paid the same.
Never forget what Jalen Rose said. In life, you don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate.
Why would I listen to simp jaylen rose? Kobe dropped 81 on that chumps head.
@@user-si2sn5gw7b lol when words become mainstream and people don’t even use it correctly. Jalen HOF in other types of games. You too young to understand
@@user-si2sn5gw7b what doesn’t Kobe dropping 82 have to do with what he said Moe ham head?
@@user-si2sn5gw7b you gotta upgrade your vocabulary son nobody uses words like simp to apply to general people
@@user-si2sn5gw7b jalen rose wasnt guarding most of the time. it was mo pete. young boy probably dont know who mo pete is.
The man had an agreement, with the owner not the GM, not the Coach, not the VP of operations, the Owner. That's a Huge difference.
being able to cultivate that relationship at his young age is crazy, thats what I respect most about Agent 0's career.
@Jordan Sharpe injuries and bad decisions too
So was Stephen wrong?
Great that Gil tells the story of his contract. If anything, it was back pay for turning the franchise around. He *EARNED* every cent.
Preach
Not really.
That's wat he said lol
No he could have took half and signed other stars to make the Wizards team contenders.
@@adamsamuel8593 he took 10 million less than he could've made anywhere else. GTOH
“Would you rather be underpaid or overrated? - Hov
Never heard of that but i jus found my new favorite quote 💯💯
@@frankiey9943 That's a classic Jay lyric. You need to learn your hov
Aaron Carver i be fuckin with west coast rap mostly but imma definitely peep some east coast shit. What song is that?
@@frankiey9943 It's from a Ye track called so appalled from my dark twisted Fantasy. Jay is featured on it. Also if you haven't listened to that whole project I think it's ye at his best personally.
“Dark knight feeling, die or be a hero
Or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.” That’s the great Lebrons career summed up.
Well considering role players can get 20 mil a year, 111 for Arenas seem reasonable. MFer carried the Wizards franchise for years
It was a lot more in comparison back then
The numbers are just going up. That was one of the biggest contracts at the time. To put it into perspective jerami grant is getting 20 mil this year and gil highest year was 18
Superstars today would spit on 111 million over six years contract lol
@@Sheepskin501 grant is worth more than 20 million just saying, had he gone into free agency with the numbers he has right now, he would be getting paid in the high 20s possibly the 30s
@@superbruhz2602 what i was getting at is that a good relatively unproven young guy gets paid more per year then a proven star in Gilbert
Who cares if these guys are overpaid their getting paid by billionaires not tax payers.. get your 💰🤑💸💲💵
Exactly! Like when ppl say player X shouldn’t be paid such amount. Why not? Lol I wanna see every player make money.
@@kwamewade915 cause people care about their teams and don't want cap space wasted on players who arent playing that well. They could spend that money on other players who are worth it.
Athletes
@@kwamewade915 if your goal is to win chips then you can correctly say someone is overpaid. Devin Booker, Kat, Dlo, and a bunch of other players aren't max contract players but they still end up taking up a 3rd of the cap
@@AhseemCarter I mean they could but these owners could care less about actually winning lol. I will stand by that.
1:11 “and im sitting here three time allstar, three time MV...” he was ready to list off accolades then snapped back to reality😂😂
@oo70mar I mean he was the MVP for his team, to be fair XD
@oo70mar hoping you mixed it up with most improved player lol
@@alexescutia4805 3 time most improved player😭😭 if you win that award 3 times, ur probably gonna be the goat by the time you reach ur prime💀
@@alexescutia4805 lol, how tf you would win MIP player 3 times. You would be avg 50, 20 and 15 by the third time you win it coming from a 30, 10, 10 season.
@@thatguyluis didn’t pay attention to the 3 time part loo
I like the fact that he's speaking of his front office how they actually took care of Gilbert and paid him wat they rightfully thought he was worth, let's U know how he was valued in that franchise
I loved gilbert back in the day. him beal and wall are my fav wizards players
Gil was the first to turn around before he knew the shot was going in 💪🏾
nah. he knew it was going in before he shot it.
He did start that
No he did not. Showtime lakers.
Nah Jamal Crawford was
@@jayreynold9440
Lakers is not a player! Who? And Gil is the first
I can handle Stephen A when he’s not on ESPN
He's gotta play the game on a network owned by disney it's a bigger picture here though he can say what he wants lol
no one cares
@Jazz Prince yeah he gotta keep a persona
@@MrWowza2 exactly bruh... I’m almost willing to bet. This Stephen A is how he is all the time.
@@Aplestamatos2 Well I mean you do. If you didn't care, why did you comment? When you don't care about something you give it attention? Weird.
His contract compared to today's contracts would be underpaid for what he did when healthy.
Exactly dude! There's role players making that lol. Dude was arguably a top 3 player in his prime.
Lol. People see the 111 mill but aren't accounting for inflation or media deals from different years.
@@darrendent8288 Obviously the market has changed. That was ridiculous money back then, but that's our point. Looking back at that contract now, it doesn't seem so outrageous.
@@peteypab16 no where near top 3 when Gilbert as his prime Kobe LeBron Wade Duncan Melo KG Dirk Amare Paul Pierce is just a few players that was better than him I can add atleast 5-6 others before I get to Gilbert
@@Stonecoldalston stoudmire and agent 0 about neck and neck, but I get what you saying. He was 10-15
Gilbert earned his contract, dude was on the cover of NBA Live 08
Abe Pollin and Jerry Buss were prob the last trustworthy owners left in the league at that time. Guys who treated their stars like family and not just a employee.
I feel like Mark did that with Dirk
@@doubarakonugah9019 Mark Cuban is straight like that I think. So is Jeanie Buss. They delayed the Lakers rebuild for 2/3 years to pay Kobe so he could make it through that last season.
@@talkingbroccoli so basically, this guy has no idea who’s a good owner or not
Overpaid? Arenas was hitting walk away game winning threes consistently lol
Yeah but the seasons following his payday he was injured ALL THE TIME
What's the furthest he made in playoffs?
He was overpaid, everyone questioned his health since the knee injury and they were right to question it. Skill wise he was great but it's purely about his health
Please educate them bro.
@Primetym24 bro i totally forgotten he played for the magic and grizzlies lol
Respect Stephen A for that. He's right, everyone watches him he's the branch from the old school to now. Just hold the new players to the same standards as old school. He's really backed into a corner some times.
Eh... Can't help but think he's slightly bending this tho. He has a platform on ESPN for doing controversial takes to bring in viewers. It's personally something I don't care for honestly. 🤷🏿♂️
@@darrendent8288 yea I don’t like the controversy/gossip part of it either, but that’s his job I guess smh
@@igraham125 so speaking of a man's pockets isn't gossip?
@@FloydWhoElseTV pocket watching has always been gossip, not down wit that but that’s a part of the media game I guess.
@@igraham125 it just seems like he always brings it up and highlights money when it comes to load management, or injuries, or being out for personal reasons, like he never took a sick day on first take and left us with the terrible back up analyst
Stephen A makes a good point about the standards. I can’t say I agree with it completely but I understand what he means.
They should have picked a room with more echo. Needs more echo.
The NBA started out earlier. Now in the future folks making more
Agent Zero is a badass nickname.
Nah some fat ass TH-camr uses that name
If agent zero can make kobe look like a human, he definitely deserves the money. Pay the man that's strapped up.
He never did anything in his career. He should be ashamed of himself. Hes the most underchieving nba player in history. With those skills
@@marcosjuarez1490 nah the most underachieving player in NBA history is SHAQ. lol. dude should’ve been at least a 8 time champ but he didn’t put the work in
@@Isaac-mk3wj 4 rings is not underachieving
@@brashadcarr680 it is when you’re Shaq
@@marcosjuarez1490 Gilbert was underachieving as a 2nd round draft pick?
Interesting story concerning Gils contract in D.C. I never heard this before. Abe Polin definitely was a loyal owner as he was with Wes Unseld.
Steven A Smith puts in work. Also, speak your truth.
I'm from DC. I now can really respect Gilbert's position
That old school mentality is why we behind. Shouldn’t the older people not want the next generation to struggle and face what they did? In that case should we all be slaves now cus our ancestors went through it
That hoodie is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I find it also cool . Question is if it was Jesus was white or Jew , what would be the reaction . Think about it...
This is what I'm talking about player to owner realtionship similar to Kobe and the bus family relationship is everything
1:11 Did gilbert say hes 3 times mvp?😂🤦♂️
Candidate for MVP, similar to runner up
@@jessesimpson1579 wizards mvp lol
It's the responsibility of NBA players and their agents to get the best they can get for their player, while, at the same time, leaving enough for the team to be able to pay enough talent to be able to get a ring. That's business. However, when it comes to the game itself and its integrity that's art and that's what people like Stephen A. Smith and other journalists should pay attention to.
It’s not their responsibility to “leave enough for the team”
@@jamesonedwardsii4943late response, but yeah it’s not their responsibility to focus on how the other’s eat. But if they’re concerned about legacy and respect as an all time great, they can’t complain about the teams shortcomings when they could have controlled the destiny by taking a little less so that others could have more
“I had a relationship” that sums it up for me!
I heard you didn’t like me’ 😂
Screamin' A Smith telling someone they were over paid? Ironic given his current ESPN contract.
Gilbert was the man worth every penny
How can this dude, who's grossly overpaid to be a talking head, even consider saying a real life NBA superstar was OVERPAID??? He put in his work, took a spot in the headlines, and won games his team shouldn't have been competitive in. Injuries happen. Hopefully, Stephen A. will get tongue cramps, and stfu.
stephen a is like half of ESPNS virality campaign, he is not overpaid lmfao man is an entertainer.
@@ryanboehm8487 And Gil wasn't overpaid either. He was also an entertainer. Stop acting like the NBA is only about wins and losses. It's about generating revenue. Just like EPSN. SAS is just paid to keep salaries down.
@@ryanboehm8487 intertaining in uh vary annoying clown sense I guess.
How is Stephen A overpaid he's Espns top guy and is on like 10 different programs he earn every penny
SAS is so much more entertaining when he's off First Take.
I don't like that counting Pockets has become a Sports topic.
Salary caps make it a topic
@@_gamepoint_ In deed, very true.
But the love of the Game is never a
Topic.
@@_gamepoint_ I remember, I can't remember who said it tho I think it was Gilbert Arenas who said "If the fans only knew how some of the players felt and spoke about the game & fans, and getting their pay checks..
Cause love for the game is subjective, not measurable
@@_gamepoint_ salary cap is made by white supremacy, they want to save all the money they make from players...
If I’m 00 I would’ve said “soooo, so are you SAS” lol 🤣
That’s why Gil is loved
This was awesome watching the full thing tonight
Something tells me that Gilbert had the strap on him that day!🤣
It’s funny Gil looked small in the league but to avg people huge
NBA average height is 6’6, world average is 5’10. Gil at most is 6’4
Why is that Jerry west, Kareem, and Bill are the only ones who seen to remember that loosing 6 times didn't mean shit compared to what you faced? This narrative shit is old and destructive to the validity of history and it's sickening. Next thing we gone start hearing is how unskilled shaq was and how horrible of a shooter kobe was smfh
This is what you get with opinion based star arguments. Yes, I said it exactly how mean it. People will run to a specific stat to make their case and will sell it as fact. Context matters.
Ppl will always do that. If everyone was logical the whole world would work differently
Yeah but the work Gil put in to get to the point of signing the $111 contract can't be ignored. Hell the Wizards haven't even been any good ever since Gil left.
Gil will always be my favorite pg
Stephen A just said that old time players are mad that players on 5th place teams get shoe deals? I knew old timers were petty, but that's just funny
That dude on the 5th place team getting the shoe deal is working 10 times older than those old cats who shot 38% from 2 point in their career.
Telling a black man he overpaid this is the destruction kwame be talking about
SAS is stupid, life is not about what you're worth Michael Jordan was worth more than the 3 million that he was making with the bulls prior to 1996 so was Scottie Pippen life is about relationships, seizing opportunities presented to you and the ability to negotiate. Gilbert did what he was supposed to do he cultivated the relationship with the owner and he was able to negotiate a big pay day period. SAS doesn't understand life that's why he works around the clock on ESPN. Work smarter not harder.
Wanna see SAS not wearing a suit when he’s on air
He look weird as hell. Almost like a narc
Stephen A Smith-The man who makes 10 mil a year to be wrong on his takes MOST of the time compared to AGENT 00 who despite what his accolades show, was one of the greatest scorers of the 00’s and arguably of all time💯
Gilbert arenas isn’t even a top 10 scorer of all time
@@jaypc6680 “isn’t even a top 10 scorer of all time” okay? He’s up there, top 20
Stfu
@@jaypc6680 he had the potential tho
Gil was badass. He was taking logo shots when Steph & Dame were in middle school lol
Dude is so arrogant, Stephan wasn’t holding the old schoolers feet to any fire, he was a beat writer during the Allen Iverson Philly Days
Most intelligent Stephen A. I have ever heard.
i'm like yo: "a hundred and eleven million dollars" 😂😂😂😂
SAS needs to find a way to get Gil on ESPN. The corporate overlords would never take the risk unless he was vouched for.
He did appear on the Jump a couple of years ago
People complain about your money if you are overpaid in their eyes but people don't complain if you are underpaid
He earned it, it don't matter what happens afterwards
i dont understand how he could have been overpaid. he was our best player and that's what the wiz offered based off what he had done and hoped for going forward. idk why we blame the players for taking the money
He's was an all star sure. But he wasn't a superstar. He wasn't gonna win a championship. Max dollars should go to guys who you can build around for years to come.
Gilbert almost immediately got injured the next season and ain't been a all star since.
@@colinnixon7739 i don't disagree with what you're saying at all, just isn't the way the league goes with contracts. At the time, it did feel like he was a main component of our success, but alas we are a poverty franchise lol
The person who wrote the check wanted him to have it. Who cares what anyone feel.
2:28 fair market value = agreed upon price with a willing buyer and willing seller
I always thought Gilbert Arenas was well spoken. I'm glad to see him putting his other talents to use.
Owner sounds like a good dude.
Please tell me Stephen A ....isn’t telling athletes that they’re over paid.
That hoodie is 🔥 🙏🏾
Stephen A ain’t never played a day in the NBA but talks to players like he’s a HOF player
Stephen A looks like a Muppet when he is talking
Tf that got to do with the content of the video?
Nothing worse than old school players and commentators that want to hate on current players who did not change the game, but simply adjusted to changes that have occurred, both in the league and outside the league.
Stephen is overpaid.
As a wizards fan I don’t think he was overpaid
You never get what you’re worth but what you can negotiate.
Imagine the snitch talking about being overpaid. And the question of not being liked, it's far worse than you can possibly imagine or, contemplate.
Possibly the only time SAS has spit 100% facts in his life/career
I bet Stephen A would never tell Steve Nash the Lakers overpaid him.
With those Skills he has especially the Agent Zero prime days he would be making more then that 111 Million
To keep talent, places like Washington must be willing to cut checks, no disrespect.
05 Agent Zero was a beast 😎
He managed to bring LeBron up in this conversation remember that
Stephen A is full of it. The only person telling him to keep other players accountable is his own ego.
Remember Lou Deng for 70 mill to sit on the bench for the Lakers? 111mill for Arenas isn’t as bad as you think.
The real question is why do basketball players get paid way more money than people who save lives like doctors?
Dumb question
He was not overpaid. Gilbert is the king of logo shots
Sound like them old heads hating! 😂
And thats why the man got paid so leave it alone. He got them out of that Era into a new wizards Era
How can another man put value on his talent
Facts but the old school have to understand the time is different
Its like the best player on every team feels like they deserve a super max contract these days.
And they don’t???
@@Sean360Lennox Lol hell to the no they don't. You're telling me someone like Julius Randall or whoever you think is the best player on the Knicks deserves a super max? Only something like the top 5 players in the league should be getting the super max and they should be the standard. You don't give KD or Giannis the super max and give Donovan Mitchell a super max too. You're already behind the 8 ball if your best player is not accounting for the same production as someone else's best player, but they're both getting paid the same.
Legend in his own mind
He was not overpaid, he was the real deal, just got injured.-
That shirt is 1000% correct & dope!
Mama’s cooking coming
It's a difference between the best and the greatest. Great has things pertaining to Glory , and Fame.
Gilbert needs to coach the Wizards right now.
Pocket watching Steve
Why were you at college campuses?
wow I wonder if Abe Pollin really said I'll probably be dead
What the hell he just say.-John Witherspoon voice
Stephen A. In the middle lol
Wow look at SAS bullying Gilbert and Gilbert crying about it years later.
Agent spoke to Shannon and Stephen a nice
If this was released years ago Wizards would be a much more attractive destination
That hoodie is beautiful.
Well at least Stephen A kept it real
What shoes Gil got on? 🔥🔥
More recognition and understanding of the facts of the business brings more money.