Louis Theroux's Response To Jimmy Saville Criticism

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  • @Ambienfinity
    @Ambienfinity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

    Being insulted by Jimmy Savile is a badge of honour. The man was scum. Louis did more than the rest of the BBC, at least calling him into question.

    • @frontenac5083
      @frontenac5083 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      * Savile

    • @bensmith5288
      @bensmith5288 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jimmy was ok

    • @user-gi5nh6ng7g
      @user-gi5nh6ng7g 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@bensmith5288you made a spelling mistake. There’s no ‘o’ and ‘k’ in the word ‘pervert’.

    • @aak5297
      @aak5297 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😊😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😅😅😅​@@bensmith5288

    • @freddiemedley5580
      @freddiemedley5580 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sir Jim was not scum, he was a thug who was used to getting everything he wanted. He saw himself on the level of the Kray twins and Sutcliffe (He was friends with them and often hung out with them at there mental hospital). Sir Jim started his career as a thuggish dj who was more than happy to brutally punish anyone who didn’t pay to get in. He also had the cops under his payroll, so no one could touch him then just like his idols the Krause twins. Another thing, Sir Jim was a suspect for the Yorkshire Ripper, body’s were found outside his flats and a mould of his teeth were made to compare them to victims body parts. Also Sir Jim pretty much instantly became friends with Sutclife after they caught him, before he had even been tried. So it’s very possible Sir Jim fixed it for Sutclife to get away with it for as long as he did

  • @mondop5270
    @mondop5270 ปีที่แล้ว +533

    Louis is an extremely intelligent guy. His naive angle of interacting with his doco subjects is perfect for getting them to feel in control rather than being grilled or taken advantage of etc... the dudes far from naive, stupid or out of touch.

    • @jabthejedi
      @jabthejedi ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The issue is, if he is not naive on any level, then he must have known a little more about Jimmy than he makes out.

    • @James-C-Callan
      @James-C-Callan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sounded a bit stupid here tho, grasping

    • @MR.PRESIDENTOFFICIAL
      @MR.PRESIDENTOFFICIAL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@jabthejedi exactly he knew for sure, common UK people heard the rumours so of course a journo knew

    • @jabthejedi
      @jabthejedi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tiger6218 And he got really defensive when one of them suggested that he was 'groomed' himself.

    • @cazzawazzadingdong5139
      @cazzawazzadingdong5139 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I've wondered for almost ten years now with little quirks i've noticed in Louis. Could he potentially have high IQ autism? Below are some traits I've picked up over the years and many he aluded to in this short 10 minute interview.
      Awkwardness in social situations/ interactions
      Asking dIrect questions (that some would consider rude)
      Abstract/dry sense of humor
      Overuse of direct sarcasm (however, I've heard Louis ask a number of times "are you joking?"(or similar) He seriously couldn't tell when others were joking or being sarcastic sometimes)
      Viewed as insincere or narcisistic from others
      Use of abstract words not often used in general conversation
      Very articulate /however an overuse of words in instances. (too many words)
      Inflexable with his routines/work (even after children he couldn't see the problem with him not adjusting his life to accomidate his kids)
      Tone of voice (less expressive- monotone to a certain extent- little variation)
      Detail orientated and observant (trait of any good journalist)
      Works from a range of pre scripted lines/ questions (trait of any good journalist)
      Eye contact -this could be nervousness with this topic (tries to make eye contact, only manages a split second then flits to elsewhere in the room - also accompanied with some excessive blinking)
      Highly intelligent
      I see tons of his behaviour in my 19 year old autistic daughter. Her eye patterns are identical to Louis's in this interview - she masks "trying" to make eye contact but is clearly uncomfortable and blinks a lot.
      I'm not saying he is or isn't.. I'm just putting out my own personal opinion from living with a highly intelligent autistic person.

  • @dnakatomiuk
    @dnakatomiuk ปีที่แล้ว +496

    And Johnny Rotten tried to tell everyone about Saville and no one listened

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      They all knew.

    • @johneichholz1116
      @johneichholz1116 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Mr. Rotten knew about Saville in the 70s !

    • @davidbolger2000AD
      @davidbolger2000AD ปีที่แล้ว

      I *REALLY WISHED* Johnny could've used the money he made from PIL Records and Royalties he was getting from Sex Pistols and Never Mind The Bollocks to anonymously seek out a Hitman to take out Savile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm willing to bet *HE, ROTTEN EVEN REGRETS NOT DOING THAT,* because you could definitely see when he was being interviewed on Piers Morgans Life Stories and enquired about the infamous interview regarding Savile he says "I'm very very bitter that Savile and the likes of them were allowed to continue." you could definitely tell he was being genuine and honest and he well and truly was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And he's right after all because *THE BIGGEST TRAGEDY I THINK REGARDING SAVILE* is that he *LITERALLY DIED CLEARLY KNOWING HE WOULD NEVER EVER BE LOCKED UP BEHIND BARS ON A LIFE OR EVEN BETTER DEATH SENTENCE AND/OR PUTTING A PEN TO THE SEX OFFENDERS REGISTER AND ALSO GIVEN A STATE REGIONAL FUNERAL HE CLEARLY NEVER DESERVED AS WELL AS BURIED IN A NOW UNMARKED GRAVE INSIDE A GOLD COFFIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT RIGHT THERE IS THE TRUEST MOST SEVEREST LACK AND MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE I THINK I'VE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

    • @adrinathegreat3095
      @adrinathegreat3095 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      How did he try to do that? He briefly mentioned something on an unheard radio broadcast years ago, and to my knowledge never mentioned it in any radio or TV magazine interview, never mentioned it during one of his many concerts..
      Basically what he said about savile back in an early radio interview was not much different than he said about any other TV celebrity during his early day's 😊

    • @sbakernyc5761
      @sbakernyc5761 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They couldn't listen. Was cut from the original broadcast smh... so infuriating and dreadfully sad

  • @Demongdn
    @Demongdn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    “Insincerity - you’re speciality” - Saville was projecting, he’s a narcissist- that’s what they do

    • @rp8164
      @rp8164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nah, I honestly think he could spot it incredibly easily in others, as though they wore a mask to disguise their true personalities - because he himself wore the exact same mask. "It takes one to know one" sort of thing.

    • @cazzawazzadingdong5139
      @cazzawazzadingdong5139 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rp8164 You may be onto something with the mask but perhaps for the wrong reason. Louis is a highly intelligent man but emotional intelligence isn't the same as iQ.
      “My director said that in a couple of the interviews, it wasn’t completely clear which of us had the autism. It was like I was sort of on the spectrum as well. Arguably, there’s an emotional side of life that I’m not always completely plugged into.” -Louis Theroux
      From my personal opinion having a highly intelligent autistic daughter. It's like a big shiny beakon of quirks and behaviours and Louis displays most, if not all of them.

    • @frontenac5083
      @frontenac5083 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      * Savile

    • @frontenac5083
      @frontenac5083 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow, you can't spell.

    • @Gogs126
      @Gogs126 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ah, I just commented the same thing above. Glad others can see it too, it's a hallmark of NPD. Accusing you of exactly what they're doing, knowing it will really upset you because it's so far from the truth,

  • @Athena-vs4cv
    @Athena-vs4cv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Louis seems deeply troubled by Savile's remark. To be described as inauthentic by a person who has been revealed as one of the most prolific abusers and deceivers in recent history must be awful. Also, it was a deliberately cruel remark, given that everybody knows that Louis' "friendly observer" persona is obviously to some extent a facade - not in a bad way but simply to get the job done, as he accepts here. Savile knew that and used it to try to discredit him.
    Personally, I thank Louis for bringing the public as close to seeing the truth as anyone did during Savile's lifetime. His original Savile doc exposed Savile as the calculating and vicious man he was, even if the abuse allegations didn't come out at that point. When I watched the interview scenes in The Reckoning, I felt like I watching Louis' doc at times, which is a testament to how good both productions were.
    On a separate note, I can see how Louis' career could damage his personal relationships. It seems like it must be nearly all-consuming.

    • @georgiana6598
      @georgiana6598 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, brain damage.

    • @Gogs126
      @Gogs126 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It seems like Louis hasn't got experience of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which Savile probably had. He is really bothered by that comment which was deliberately delivered to hit a nerve, exactly because it's probably the furthest thing from the truth. This is exactly what people with NPD do.

  • @redlady935
    @redlady935 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Savile was EXTREMELY clever. He knocked down at anyone who attempted to expose him and LT did ask him on camera about the allegations

    • @frontenac5083
      @frontenac5083 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      * Savile

    • @A4RON123
      @A4RON123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@frontenac5083Saville*

    • @Gloamy17
      @Gloamy17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@A4RON123*Noncey-man

    • @Jimthehumanoid
      @Jimthehumanoid หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@A4RON123 nope. only one L

    • @zaz214
      @zaz214 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sevile**

  • @jimmytongdragon
    @jimmytongdragon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Louis is the Lt. Columbo of journalism

  • @markpoland5748
    @markpoland5748 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    The greatest trick that Louis ever pulled was convincing interviewees that he was naive. That's genius on another level hats off, Louis I've seen all your interviews there could be a film in there, sorry I just think your style is amazing the approach then the strike, like a pit viper always on point but always showing you could see there point as I said genius.

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I don't think he tried to convince them he was naïve ...i think he tried to use a put on sense of awkwardness to surf the waves of any emotional turbulence ..but what he did was try to convince them he was square ..which is not naive ...that he was straight ..non exotic .from a boring background.which if you ever read his bio is completely not him he worked as a journalist for christs sake! But basically he used people's preconceptions of him against them....he used what he truly is too ..NAIVE ... because that is his archtype ..no one stays naive forever ...but we all start off that way ... the kid in us is still naive.

    • @markpoland5748
      @markpoland5748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@silverkitty2503 amen to that. The worst thing about being talked about is not being talked about, I know by the way you talk on screen you know what I mean, and by the way as u a Thurman said in pulp fiction don't be a square, Louis is no square but that's the magic behind the curtains like in the wizard of oz, feally liked speaking with you, stay safe and may you and yours have a beautiful life, seeeeeyaaahhhh..

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markpoland5748 You too you seem like you would be an interesting person to know.

    • @markpoland5748
      @markpoland5748 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@silverkitty2503 Thanks silver kitty.. X

    • @hunterluxton5976
      @hunterluxton5976 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@markpoland5748 not quite. Does that logic apply to the likes of Garry Glitter?

  • @maxilopez1596
    @maxilopez1596 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I don't for a second believe what saville was getting up to wasn't common knowledge in the BBC

    • @paulgeddert6125
      @paulgeddert6125 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      there is no way, over that period of time people within the BBC did not know the type of thing he was up to. It's just not realistic to think no one knew.

    • @funkytransport
      @funkytransport 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no shit sherlock, just figured it out?

    • @funkytransport
      @funkytransport 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      all the big brains out today.... @@paulgeddert6125

  • @MrJordandurrant
    @MrJordandurrant ปีที่แล้ว +131

    To echo the other pro-Louis comments : the man's ability to be non-reactive, calm and polite in the face of things that would anger, frighten, frustrate most people is incredible. His ability to step outside of the situation and then chose his words, comments and actions in such a way that he doesn't interfere with or deliberately or accidentally re-direct the interviewee is a real talent that the vast majority of top tier journalists and interviewers lack.
    Yet, at the same time - he has proved on many occasions that he can put people on the spot, ask the hard questions - and they are already so disarmed, that the answers are always far more telling.
    I wish there was more from Louis.
    Also, my girlfriend really fancies him and I'm kind of ok with it.
    The Pedro Pascal crush she has, not so much. But Louis is ok.

    • @wulfgold
      @wulfgold 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, Louis' ability to continually accept money from an organisation that consistently tried to cover up child abuse really is admirable?

    • @alexmousley7213
      @alexmousley7213 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Magaret Thatcher? The Royal Familly? Multiple charities? The NHS? @@wulfgold

    • @wulfgold
      @wulfgold 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alexmousley7213 and you wonder why the inquiry went nowhere...

    • @amybradley2571
      @amybradley2571 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She’s got good taste 👌

    • @wulfgold
      @wulfgold 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      absolutely.

  • @benstevinson764
    @benstevinson764 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Louis is a highly intelligent and intellectual Individual!!!

  • @andymurray3516
    @andymurray3516 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You have such a great skill at interviewing. It's even more pronounced when interviewing an interviewer like Louis Theroux.

  • @s3any1977
    @s3any1977 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I like Louis Theroux. He's a very self aware man.

    • @markpoland5748
      @markpoland5748 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's proper mate Louis is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't think so ..i think he is aware of how people perceive him ..not who he is

    • @theblackpearl8632
      @theblackpearl8632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh…he’s AWARE all right…

    • @Glitch_sa_Mhaitris
      @Glitch_sa_Mhaitris ปีที่แล้ว

      The whole BBC knew what Savile was but they wouldn't touch him because he has the blood of Alastair Crowley running through him, he had direct links to the Royal Family and even all the Members of Parliament. Jimmy Savile was a high ranking freemason that practiced Thelema Laws which involved luciferian Sacrifices and blackmailing the highest ranking people in power. Louis Mountbatten introduced him to the Royal Family, Prince Philip and then Prince Charles. They all knew because they were all participating in heinous acts of murder against people, mainly Children. Savile was also indeed the other Yorkshire Ripper, three bodies found next to his flat in Leeds and his overfriendly relationship with Peter Sutcliffe in Broadmoor. It gets darker, Savile also had links to the Moors Murders, he once said that he is the myra Hindley Story. He also had links to Fred and Rose West, Ian Huntley and Ian Watkins from the LostProphets. He was a serial killer, child sexual murderer and psychopath whose bloodline ran the whole of Britain and God knows where else.

  • @1972hermanoben
    @1972hermanoben ปีที่แล้ว +58

    An exceptional exchange here - an object lesson in allowing your interviewee the room they need to range as far and as deep as they’re going to with their answer. Riveting.

    • @noradosmith
      @noradosmith 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes. The silence is perfect. It lets Louis make his point as succinctly as he needs to.

  • @timhall3575
    @timhall3575 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Loved Michael Moores TV Nation when it first aired and Louis was one of the main reasons. I met him just prior to Weird Weekends going out as i was chaperoning a singer songwriter around Soho/West End doing PR - seemed to be that Louis was also doing the PR circuit that day (BBC, GLR, Virgin Radio etc) - he was lovely. I invited him to a small gig the artist I was working with that night was doing at the long gone 12 Bar Club in Denmark St. Him and his team turned up! He was great. A good egg.

    • @timhall3575
      @timhall3575 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the lovely Kristin Hersh, back when she was on the 4AD label (the label I worked for) - she was doing promo for her album Strange Angels @@eightiesmusic1984

  • @maeshellewest-davies7904
    @maeshellewest-davies7904 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    love Louis's sense of humour.

  • @rorychivers8769
    @rorychivers8769 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    How is it possible for anyone to look Louis Theroux directly in the eye, a man who intently, laboriously, almost visibly considers every single thing that is said to him with equal weight, no matter how shocking or insignificant it may be, to the point that you can quite literally see his thought process playing out in real time with no filter, and then call the man 'insincere'....

    • @oddunb6190
      @oddunb6190 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Being he’s always acting

    • @rorychivers8769
      @rorychivers8769 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oddunb6190 I assume you meant to say "meaning he's always acting", that being the case I would respond by asking the question "to what end?"
      Is the act merely a means to an end to make people lower their guard and say what they really think?
      Is it even possible to achieve that, if someone suspects you are trying to mislead them in any way?

    • @oddunb6190
      @oddunb6190 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rorychivers8769 Vast sums of money and worldwide adulation

    • @Shatter84
      @Shatter84 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Because he plays aloof and naive so well. I can easily see how one would come to that conclusion.

    • @JacquiLee78Aussie
      @JacquiLee78Aussie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well sais, the man is utter brilliance, what a beautiful child like soul

  • @ClipSalad
    @ClipSalad ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another thing that added to Savile’s weird factor was the fact that he couldn’t tell the difference between a badge and a medallion.

    • @anarchistleek9097
      @anarchistleek9097 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's the only weird thing about the man 😂

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for posting.

  • @ddbb6618
    @ddbb6618 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great vid, seemed to end abruptly though

  • @netto6681
    @netto6681 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Wow - I’ve pretty much seen everything Theroux’s done, including when he’s been the interview subject, and this is the first time I’ve ever seen anything get to him.

    • @thesmithersy
      @thesmithersy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its one of those "I should have known" or "I had my suspicions and I should have done something and I didn't" feelings.

    • @happinesstan
      @happinesstan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thesmithersy Didn't even casually discuss it with anybody. yeah, right. The reason his show was so highly anticipated was the expectation of a gotcha. He knew this and you can't tell me he didn't.
      He's cut from the same cloth as Andrew Neill, and we saw how he exploited the situation. Later on he tries to point the finger at the British public. Theroux will no doubt do the same, in time.

    • @jacob4690
      @jacob4690 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What got to him exactly? Hes explaining something

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jacob4690 Nothing got to him. It's sensational and trash editing to drum up drama where there isn't any. Louis gave a very detailed and nuanced answer to a difficult (and somewhat unreasonable) question, and showed that he is as thoughtful and respectful as he's always been. Channel is trash.

  • @doughyanddeanssecondcousin5085
    @doughyanddeanssecondcousin5085 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love Louis ,so smart ,interview technique is far superior than most

  • @Joe-vb4pg
    @Joe-vb4pg ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Louis pretends to act dumb which lure people in to being very open, breaks down their barriers. Then he can hit them with hard truths

    • @jamesrowden303
      @jamesrowden303 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which he singularly failed to do with his interview with this creep. However, if he had done he would have been sued into bankruptcy. Accusing public figures of child rape, rape, necrophilia, child molestation and being a weirdo is ground for a libel action in the UK.

  • @Pneumanon
    @Pneumanon ปีที่แล้ว +10

    7:00 I think the Nietzsche quote you're looking for is, "Jerry, just remember... It's not a lie if you believe it".

  • @julesleche6693
    @julesleche6693 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Omg … this man is me completely ! Always loved his documentaries just never seen him interviewed 💁🏼‍♀️

  • @nomojo1110
    @nomojo1110 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Similar to Bruce Dickinson's attitude. A grown man performing in front of a subjectively absurd stage-set, singing about ancient Egypt and the like. "You have to believe in it, otherwise you can't put on a convincing show for the fans." That's badly worded, but you get the gist.

  • @Bounty_Hunter84
    @Bounty_Hunter84 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love all his work. And I know were he is coming from it happens. He is the best in the Business.

  • @cautionTosser
    @cautionTosser ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think you're overthinking it, Louis. And that would delight Jimmy no end. :)
    The fawker probably just meant something along the lines of "takes one to know one" and maybe that got under your skin to think that you were even a tiny bit like him. Because obviously he was incredibly insincere. But unless you've been keeping some very dark secrets, you are nothing like him. Never let these clowns in your head. They do as much damage there as they do to the rest of the body.

  • @fl3162
    @fl3162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Savile knew that the game was up well before he died and that’s why he played the fool in all the interviews. People just thought he was eccentric.

  • @richardpowers9110
    @richardpowers9110 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Louis is amazing! Thanks for the clip 😃

  • @markpoland5748
    @markpoland5748 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Louis is the the opitimy of a nice guy and a tough mind, Louis is one of if not the best ever documentary maker and interviewer, respect to Louis,

    • @anthonysteel6877
      @anthonysteel6877 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Epitome

    • @markpoland5748
      @markpoland5748 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anthonysteel6877 why don't you host a spelling bee,

    • @anthonysteel6877
      @anthonysteel6877 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@markpoland5748 Now now.

    • @markpoland5748
      @markpoland5748 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anthonysteel6877 Antony what did I do wrong..

    • @markpoland5748
      @markpoland5748 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fiona Power Thank you Fiona.

  • @slightlyokok
    @slightlyokok ปีที่แล้ว +43

    He seems to carry anxiety from his saville encounter. Probably can’t comprehend being near that monster and not pushing against him harder. Possibly his only documentary subject that terrified him.

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@Ø of course he does. He knew. The whole business knew.
      They went along to get along.
      Vipers all.

    • @alexmousley7213
      @alexmousley7213 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Louis does say in one of his books how he had to square actually liking Saville when he spent time with him and then the mass of abuses came out- so Louis read every single witness/victim statement as he felt he owed Saville's victims that. Saville was a master manipulator/narcisist and psychopath who worked himself into the circles of the most powerful people. I cannot imagine having spent time with Saville then the allegations are irrefutably proven by the weight of evidence would be anything but traumatic.

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He invited Saville to stay at his home for a weekend, after the documentary had been filmed. It’s very weird.

    • @alexmousley7213
      @alexmousley7213 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @HkFinn83 I'm not sure how easy it would be, but try asking Louis about that. Louis has interviewed many people that are questionable, from neo Nazis to the Hamiltons, he usually gets close enough to them for them to drop their guard. Unfortunately Saville played Louis like he played everyone.

    • @alexmousley7213
      @alexmousley7213 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Savile also spent time with Margaret Thatcher for Christmas and was close to Lady Di. He knew how to embed himself with the powerful and turn on the charm when he needed to, this is how psychopaths operate.
      @@HkFinn83

  • @pinkdiamonds9137
    @pinkdiamonds9137 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is so weird; I once briefly dated a BBC producer when I was living in London and he told me he was a huge fan of Louis until he met him at BBC functions. He said very similar things Jimmy Savile and his ex wife said; he said he was cold, smug and very insincere like there was no real depth to him. I took it with a grain of salt at the time but I can kind of see it now

  • @pippipster6767
    @pippipster6767 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ‘Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you've got it made.’

  • @grayhalf1854
    @grayhalf1854 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I think the more intellectual you are, the more you will tend to use that intellect to deconstruct an interaction in real time and engage on a more abstracted level. So whereas the other person may be speaking from a more 'in the moment' emotionality (which would typically be viewed as completely authentic), you'll be understanding the interaction from a more meta plane where it's less about what is actually being said and more about how those things fit into the model of the interaction that you have in your own head. A more male trait I think and I can see how it could be frustrating for the other party and be perceived as insincere. The more any behaviour is routed through thought and trades emotional immediacy for intellectual understanding the more the risk is there that you won't be taken to be authentic, and could even be seen as manipulative. Louis doesn't seem to have these problems though, people do seem to like and warm to him.

    • @Gloamy17
      @Gloamy17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How very authentic of you.

  • @Robert-vw3od
    @Robert-vw3od 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I think it’s ridiculous to give Louis Theroux stick he asked Jimmy Savile questions and it was the first time we publicly saw a face to Jimmy Savile where people could have realised and he could’ve been caught.

    • @eldictator1
      @eldictator1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. The first and only person to open the dialogue and at the time o had no idea until he raised it

    • @alexbelotti1603
      @alexbelotti1603 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Louis knew

    • @dannytoots6635
      @dannytoots6635 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He’s not giving Louis stick?

  • @adamschlinker972
    @adamschlinker972 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jimmy Savile calling anyone insincere is the greatest hypocrisy I've ever heard. He was clearly projecting.

    • @rp8164
      @rp8164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or recognising it in others?

  • @iainholmes2735
    @iainholmes2735 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Louis made some brilliant docus in the late 90s. Loved the Weird Weekends programmes.

    • @lucylook4340
      @lucylook4340 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes they were excellent! I miss those dearly.

  • @MrSnout5
    @MrSnout5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Louis is very intelligent and largely self aware. I do find his delivery in rather fragmented sentences very jarring though.

    • @rebbel67
      @rebbel67 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree more.

  • @barrybark3995
    @barrybark3995 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    he defo knows more about savile but fills the interview with guff in case he reveals something new

    • @timothydraper3687
      @timothydraper3687 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You should offer to help the police.

    • @Retrobeemer
      @Retrobeemer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@timothydraper3687 But then they'd be left with no crimes to solve!

    • @barrybark3995
      @barrybark3995 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hithere981i read that he met up with him,went round his house a few other times in addition to the interviews

  • @jameshurley4337
    @jameshurley4337 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Steven has real skill as an interviewer.

  • @vladimirimp
    @vladimirimp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I'm glad you brought that up". I love Louis.

  • @tompope6522
    @tompope6522 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Calling somone insincere is horrible. It's a vague, nebulous way of saying someone is a liar in some way but the lack of specificity means that it's very hard to know precisely what they mean and therefore how to explain oneself. It's rather similar to the way people sling inults like 'racist' about. It's a cheap way of doing a lot of harm and forgetting that the other person is a messy human being and may have a perspective to be understood or some pain that needs to be empathised with. A little forgiveness goes a long way - and we must forgive even those that call us insincere!
    Louis is a great interviewer and documentary maker. He seems to admit that this involves a degree of manipulation at times and perhaps the dark art of manipulation is something that can leak into private life- just a wild and unfounded speculation on may part. Intelligent people frequently have multiple sides to their character and can be sophisticated deceivers, which can be equally frustrating for them as it is to others. It must be difficult being the ex-partner of someone who is so widely loved though. I'm sure we can all relate to how messy home life can be, and we all do things we're not proud of. Great place to take the interview though! That cut deep.

  • @markaddison4753
    @markaddison4753 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ill have to check my diary but basically supposed to be in meetings all day as it's Friday

  • @mamaduck9370
    @mamaduck9370 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm quite prepared to allow Mr Theroux to convince me of his sincerity.

    • @happinesstan
      @happinesstan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Give him half a chance and he'll convince you that nobody would have ever suspected Saville.

  • @kallivino8346
    @kallivino8346 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Auchhhh! That insincerity quote hit a nerve for Louie. Always kinda wondered at that empathy and understanding of, for example,neo nazis or gang leaders was real.

  • @jonathankerrsmith
    @jonathankerrsmith 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How the BBC let Saville get away with it for so long is beyond me

  • @shivo4659
    @shivo4659 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Louis isn't insincere. He remains calm and non reactive to whatever he's being faced with which puts his subjects at ease, and means they open up more. His work is genius

    • @superpantman
      @superpantman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      no offence but I'm sure his wife knew him better than you and his work as a journalist doesn't encapsulate him as a person. I'm not saying he is or isn't insincere, i'm just saying you can't call it by seeing some of his documentaries and pretending you know the guy.

  • @charlottebowes7666
    @charlottebowes7666 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My mum worked at the BBC secretariat in the 1970’s and all the women warned her about Jimmy Saville. She met him and all were polite, but afterwards she said she didn’t like him and never met him again. When Jim’ll Fix It used to come on she used to say, ‘yuk!’ and leave the room…
    My mum was very pretty, slim and red headed back then, so even at the age of around 8 I did wonder why he wasn’t nicer to my mum.
    After that I saw Top of the Pops and seeing him touch girls, I realised.
    I remember looking straight at the screen in fury, setting my jaw and my face darkened…
    I knew.

    • @1Thedairy
      @1Thedairy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      When Jimmy Saville used to come to Stoke Mandeville all the nurses would warn us to be careful. Everyone knew but nobody said anything for fear of not being believed. It would never happen today

    • @charlottebowes7666
      @charlottebowes7666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@1Thedairy I don’t believe that. They’re just hiding and I like seeking.
      It’s funny to scare them when I find them…it’s always made me laugh 😎

    • @TedBarton91
      @TedBarton91 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1Thedairy😂 you honestly believe that?

    • @hugolindum7728
      @hugolindum7728 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My sister in law worked for the bbc radio 1 as a researcher in the 80s and she’s heard rumours about Jimmy too, but nothing more than Jimmy being a groper.

    • @charlottebowes7666
      @charlottebowes7666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TedBarton91 Yeah look how many pedos have turned up in the last 8 months that you didn’t know about and now you do. You should never say never mate 😎

  • @cacwgm
    @cacwgm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    He's overthinking this. Jimmy Saville was an expert manipulator, and had an unerring instinct for people's weak spots - and the cruelty to use it.
    Theroux is a brilliant depth interviewer of the marginal, weird, dangerous and criminal - because he can do the wide-eyed 'just tell me' so convincingly, without showing revulsion or judgement.

    • @JW-qf2fx
      @JW-qf2fx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeh agree.. and Louis uses awkwardness and a soft inquisitive and almost naive angle to get good interview content, Saville was a master of causing misdirection and confusion and never often answering questions properly, or with historic catchphrases etc that had secondary meanings that werent initially apparent. Louis could tell he was dealing with something different but no one could guess of just HOW different, over 60+ years it would extend!!

  • @aleksisuuronen5969
    @aleksisuuronen5969 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't even know the episode was pulled. I don't think it's needed from what's in the episode but understand it since you cannot today address anything once and that's that. Maybe do like a thing to the end of what's come out about him. Well, I have the dvd box of those early episodes anyway, it's propably even on here tho.

  • @col.231
    @col.231 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like and admire the person and his work. Louis Theroux is just a kind and caring person 💯👍

  • @The1Floyd
    @The1Floyd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Saville was smart, he saw through Lois in a second. That's how people like Saville get away with it

  • @marklimbrick
    @marklimbrick ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Louis tried to carry out a professional assignment with a psychopath. JS was a machine with only one purpose and only one tool. Poor Louis has a style akin to wiggling out cockney pickled whelks. JS just treated him like a toy. To even consider ideas like 'friends' is like expecting a vending machine to have favourite customers.

    • @happinesstan
      @happinesstan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bollocks. His show was just the same as Andrew Neill's 'This is your life', five years earlier. An exploitation of the public appetite. Only he didn't deliver. In fact he might have re-enforced/begun the narrative of "Hey, he fooled the entire UK public, so you can't expect me to be any different", that Neill has since pushed.

    • @rehanasvideos
      @rehanasvideos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brilliant assessment 😂

  • @ellieban
    @ellieban 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The calm and measured way Louis reacts to this tough line of questioning is seriously impressive.

  • @user-pu6lg5ik9p
    @user-pu6lg5ik9p 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a muggy question!?... Damn. Poor Louis!!

  • @Jasperroodog
    @Jasperroodog 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Louis was aware of the allegations against Saville and didn’t challenge him as he was more bothered about the interview than challenging the subject

  • @bobbyfatgun6031
    @bobbyfatgun6031 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Columbo taught Louis everything he knows.

  • @gonnahavemesomefun
    @gonnahavemesomefun 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    His ex agreeing with Saville 🤦‍♂ tells you more about her than Jimmy or even Louis himself.

  • @Stargazer3131
    @Stargazer3131 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its interesting how Louis diverted the conversation about his ex seamlessly into talking about Jimmy Savile!🤔🤫

    • @MrPotsy81
      @MrPotsy81 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And changing the subject when uncomfortable was Savile's thing. Interesting....

  • @philmcchrystal1670
    @philmcchrystal1670 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Do great journalists and interviewers have to have narcissistic tendencies?

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course, they believe themselves the abitars of truth.
      Not that they get to the truth these days.

    • @theblackpearl8632
      @theblackpearl8632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davea1752 Complete misunderstanding of NPD there, I’m afraid.

  • @ursulageorgeson7086
    @ursulageorgeson7086 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's far from being an honourable trade, but he's fucking good at his job.

  • @TinaJesse859
    @TinaJesse859 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is the lighting so awful on this podcast?

  • @victoria180
    @victoria180 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant book

  • @joanneadair9227
    @joanneadair9227 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I love Louis. I don't know if he's sincere or not, but he's a bloody good journo.

    • @lebumjames1373
      @lebumjames1373 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's very entertaining and fascinating on a surface level but let's not kid ourselves here. Actual investigative journalists are either dead, or have to vigilantly move indefinitely as their life is in danger 24/7. (Ie. Michael Hastings, Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, Whitney Webb etc).

    • @joanneadair9227
      @joanneadair9227 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @lebumjames1373 I wouldn't put Louis in a category with Assange or Sniwden. Theroux has some integrity.

    • @cmc6040
      @cmc6040 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@joanneadair9227Snowden has integrity. He's been let down by his government. The man gave up his life to expose horrific abuses by government.

  • @Ye4rZero
    @Ye4rZero ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just more surprised that they're discussing a quote from Jimmy Saville

  • @generalmunro748
    @generalmunro748 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Savile said if you can fake sincerity you've cracked it

    • @markpoland5748
      @markpoland5748 ปีที่แล้ว

      What was Saville talking about cracking. I mean if you think like him hhe was into some

    • @aina2165
      @aina2165 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just like the royal family then.

    • @markpoland5748
      @markpoland5748 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aina2165 you got that right. There all disturbed in one way or another, you hit the nail on the head.. Props.

  • @DeLarge666
    @DeLarge666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Weird weekends is his best work hands down.

  • @johnmulvey5121
    @johnmulvey5121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's doing the 'raised inflection'' quite a bit. He never used to.

  • @fairlyvague82
    @fairlyvague82 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The irony of being called ‘insincere’ by Savile. Just wow.

  • @morchangstudios
    @morchangstudios 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He wasn’t asking Louie to get inside the mind of jimmy saville- here Louie is ironically avoiding his own insincerity !

  • @buskingkarma2503
    @buskingkarma2503 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't one his(Louis) parents work at the BBC,at the same time as Jimmy?

  • @westtexasdave2140
    @westtexasdave2140 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Louis was trying to quote George Costanza “If you believe it, it isn’t a lie”.

  • @richierottweiler923
    @richierottweiler923 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This seems to be a case of Louis not at his best. His interviews and documentaries are exemplary, but here, he doesn’t seem at his articulate coherent fully prepared best

  • @michaeljohnson5365
    @michaeljohnson5365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes i have the full episode on dvd and there is a scene where he says that he can get anything he wants!

    • @mediacenterman8583
      @mediacenterman8583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JS had connections which gave him carte blanche. It was an open secret

    • @sbnqy
      @sbnqy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And Louis Theroux took him up on it and they met several times!
      After what I see in that documentary I’d never go near that weirdo again!
      Keeps his dead mums clothes….
      Theroux is strange

    • @paulf2898
      @paulf2898 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sbnqy what's strange about keeping your dead mom's clothes? It reminds you of your mom as it belonged to her
      It's only cos it's a creep that it becomes weird?

  • @robnewton3368
    @robnewton3368 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I suspect Saville come to see him as a friend/confidant. This is what Theroux is good at while at the same time he’s a professional journalist with the ability to hold two opposing viewpoints at the same time.

  • @therealjag
    @therealjag 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Can tell by his body language and voice that he finds it very uncomfortable to open up emotionally. It's served him well in his career but can see how it has affected his relationships and his ability to actually be empathetic and connect with people on a deeper level

    • @illyias
      @illyias 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bringing up statements made by his ex-wife is also pretty fucking wild though, I think anyone would necessarily become somewhat defensive here. There's untold emotional baggage here.

  • @rangers_1
    @rangers_1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big Louis knew 😮

  • @jbaker6811
    @jbaker6811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Louis is Genuine and inquisitive AND also Sincere. Jimmy Saville was a show-off wannabe intellect.

  • @davidpeters3857
    @davidpeters3857 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Genius at work

  • @panloon7776
    @panloon7776 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching Louis getting stuck in self-awareness loops is endearing

  • @jimwocha4949
    @jimwocha4949 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It wasn't Louis' job to expose Saville. there were multiple opportunities to do that before Louis interviewd him. He was the BBC's golden goose so they didn't want to bring him down.

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It absolutely was. It was the job of any decent human who knew.

    • @frontenac5083
      @frontenac5083 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      * Savile

    • @jimwocha4949
      @jimwocha4949 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frontenac5083 always a very appropriate name for him I thought. Thanks for the correction.

  • @patterdalezipsuzilil
    @patterdalezipsuzilil ปีที่แล้ว

    I still got my Jim l fix it badge is it worth anything

    • @elliotoliver8679
      @elliotoliver8679 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1 million US dollars easy

  • @Longeezy
    @Longeezy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They weren’t cut from the same cloth, but they did have a Saville row

  • @themekfrommars
    @themekfrommars ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm not sure that Saville's comment about insincerity is being interpreted correctly. I believe that he was projecting the shame of his his own insincerity on to Louis. Maybe his ex-wife was doing this as well.

    • @rp8164
      @rp8164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, he simply easily recognised it in others who practice it.

  • @SheilaMakena
    @SheilaMakena ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This dude hasn't said Jack... or Jill...

  • @user-wu2lh7di2l
    @user-wu2lh7di2l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No one in the BBC that knew about it will admit it now would they? Pretty pointless to ask them, because they’ll always say they didn’t know

  • @kevintynan796
    @kevintynan796 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I believe it it’s not a lie is the point he’s making. Boris Johnson’s philosophy also. Hard hitting questions, good interview, good answers also.

  • @gmc2652
    @gmc2652 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good pint well made, they stick together??????

  • @antmac2545
    @antmac2545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its always interesting see a protagonists get called out . I liked Lois but after he became very big i thought he lost his edge, and his style started to feel contrived . If he was so good etc etc surely he must have been aware of his behaviour. He got away with it Scott free to be honest.

    • @SG_1fan
      @SG_1fan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sometimes to move up the ladder of journalistic entertainment, I'm sure there are times you have to give up some editorial control

  • @nigelwilliams9307
    @nigelwilliams9307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Louis is a better troll than Ali G.

  • @user-fk8rb8ue5h
    @user-fk8rb8ue5h ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus,, and I thought I was living inside my head.

  • @HkFinn83
    @HkFinn83 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watch the documentary and listen to how Theroux has talked about it afterwards. Then remember after the documentary was filmed, he invited Saville to spend the weekend at his house socially. Very weird.

  • @dondouglass6415
    @dondouglass6415 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never disliked Louis but never, coincidentally, believed his sincerity.... Believing the lack of, was a necessity to get responses from the subjects at hand. I find him more honest in this video and more human... Maybe I am speaking bollox... 😮

  • @Ghrijdnghtji
    @Ghrijdnghtji ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Talking and saying nothing, they were right.

  • @hunterluxton5976
    @hunterluxton5976 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Too many cameras in this setup. You're not making a movie and you're not a director.

  • @matc1828
    @matc1828 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To criticise Louis as disingenuous or detached or whatever is to not understand his personality and/or comedy! Louis' great!

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you do?!
      SMH.

    • @happinesstan
      @happinesstan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You obviously don't understand his background and ambitions.

  • @ACE-us4oh
    @ACE-us4oh ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant interview. He is an insightful man Mr Theroux.

  • @robglysen
    @robglysen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cant find it on the internet........ When Louis met Jimmy. Its totally gone, wierd.

  • @davidfisher92
    @davidfisher92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like the phrase Louis is searching for about himself is ‘deeply sardonic’.