Taking The doors off a Jeep XJ (97+)
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- Doing the Jeep Cherokee XJ doorless mod: This is specifically for the 1997 and newer Cherokees in order to make easily removable doors.
To get the door pins, contact Glen Morris by phone: 732-239-6291
or on instagram: NODOORXJ / nodoorxj
Let him know that I sent you!
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Bruh for some reason I died laughing at 0:06 like that’s all you gotta do end of video
I watched this video just for the fun of it. It was just that. Nice to see a young fella interested in tackling such a project. I commend your dad. Great to see father and son doing mechanics as a team. God Bless You both. Stay well and safe.
Rather than remove the dome light switches in the door jam, I installed a switch that interrupts the ground to those switches. This way they're still functional when the doors are installed.
That's a great less permanent way to do it!
That's a great more permanent way to do it
Best video yet on the 97+ process.
+Joseph Blakemore Wow Thanks!
This is a great video, but I would like to warn anyone attempting to do this that if you go the route Admiral Offroad did by taking the hinges off to drill them out, you're going to be going through hell and back to line those doors back up so they look good, and seal good.
Glen Morris at No Door XJ recommends you keep them on and use a long 3/8th drill bit to drill the holes out. I can testify that doing it this way will be a lot less hassle as I learned from my mistake. Ended up taking the hinges off because I had too short of a bit and had to get the doors back on the next morning for work because of the rain.
TL;DR - Don't take the hinges off, use a long 3/8th drill bit to drill out the holes.
Keep on Jeeping.
U ever have issues with the door drooping or anything over time?
@@scooter0241 It's been about a year and a half since I modified my hinges for the door pins. I can't say that I've had any issues with drooping, besides what was already there. Doors line up good even after all the abuse. There will be play, but that's because you've got removable pins verses fixed ones.
Don’t even drill out the hinges or jam. Just cut the pin and find a pin at Home Depot or Lowe’s a 16th smaller. Cut down on project time and alignment issues.
That was hands down the best tutorial video on a jeep mod that I've ever seen. And I would say I've watched hundreds of jeep mod videos.
Also my XJ is the same color so I was really feeling that connection ;P
Thanks!
+Samuel Gordon Thanks!
+Admiral Off-Road Do you by chance remember the size of the original pin holes? Before you drilled them to 3/8, where they 5/16? I can find out for myself tonight, just curious
Samuel Gordon I'm not 100% sure, but I think it was 5/16
+Admiral Off-Road Alright, took me forever to get the time, but first bolt is out and it is in deed 5/16. Dremel/wedge & hammer takes forever, but it gets the job done
+Samuel Gordon glad to hear it! Thanks for reporting back with the size as well
I finished a job changing the door hinge pins and bushings about 3 months ago. Since most of us don't have a plasma cutter, there's only one real plausible way to get the pin out that's pressed in; and you're going to need a dremel with the steel cutting wheel. It's the only thing small enough to fit in there (barely), you're gonna make an angled cut and you'll be able to bang em out after you split it. The job was a huge pain in the ass, especially if you don't have a garage you can put the jeep in overnight if you can't finish the job in one day.
You can also start with a small drill bit and drill a small hoke in the pin, then step up bit sizes to the pins split in half. Then carry on as usual and knock em out.
Great video I look forward to removing my doors on my XJ. You guys did a awesome job keep up the good work and thanks for using safety equipment.
+Stoner the Jack of all trades Thanks!
Good stuff young buck stay humble kid loved how you gave a few shout outs to your dad lol your awesome.
Followed your steps on taking the doors off the hinges, every thing went fine but I stripped the bottom corner bolt on the bottom hinge. I took the time to break all the bolts loose on the passenger side to avoid stripping any of them😂
So the pins will also work for the 2017 Jeep Cherokee Trackhawk too? Hahaha kidding! Great vid! Will be doing this in the summer🤟
Anyway you can get a caliper and measure the diameter of those pins. Looking to do it myself but I’m planning on just buying some pins from Home Depot
I'd only consider doing this if I also fitted/welded in a Rollbar/frame. Unibody is fragile enough as is without removing the doors, unless you like doin the Jello Wobble...
Thanks for the vid! Been looking into this for a bit to do on my 01 xj but nothing out there has been really cut and dry. Everybody acts like the doors are never gonna go back on and seal properly and its a big pain in the ass processes when its really not. Hardest part is probably getting them stupid electrical connectors apart lol I hate them damn clips! haha
+stover81291 I agree! the clips are the hardest part.
instead of taking the switch out you can also take out the number 4 fuse in your fuse box, thats what i do in my tj and it works great!
+ManagerFilms The fuse box in the XJ is a little different. the number 4 fuse in my XJ is for one of the headlights
Just ordered the pins. When can I expect them in my mailbox?
How are these holding up in 2021 ? Would you recommend them or done anything different?
Thanks for the help
+Josh Erlenbach you're welcome!
nice I have a 92 cherokee xj all the doors come off I was told not to go hardcore 4 wheeling with out them might twist the unibody I also have and exhaust stack with a 50" glass pack iv never seen a cherokee with 1 and I do metal fabrication so I figured I'd do it I also made my own half inch bumper with a stinger and a ton of other things with a jack skeleton theme on the exhaust stack and bumper got to love jeeps so much potential can't wait for snow
anyway love the posts keep on posting!
Hi there 😊. I watch how u were taking the door off jeep,
Question
my 2001 jeep Cherokee sport drivers door is broken , and were I live there's only a limited jeep 2001 ,
Can I use that door to replace mine...?????
Or can I use the door from the Laredo sport 2002 ???
I need help ASAP. 😊 🙏 thank you
Does this fit the 2000 model?
the elect connector dissengages from the door hinge area..??? What are you doing?? Paid by the hour or what???
Awesome vid dude
Thanks!
Is this the same method for the rear doors?
Nice video, thinking about doing this to my daily driver XJ. Was wondering how much of a pain it is to rewire and set the doors back up after taking them off?
+Holt Olson It's not too bad. Setting the doors back up is easier with 2 people (one to hold the door and one to put the pins in place) but it can be done alone. I leave my plastic side panels unscrewed so i can get to the wiring plugs quicker. It takes about 10 minutes total to remove or reattach
Have you ever have to pull out the door hinge from the door
Does all the speakers, windows and locks plug back in easily so you can use them?
donny moran yes. There are connectors behind the kick panel that makes it fairly easy
I admit, you had me until the plasm cutting of the pins that lift out. Good show governor. I thought you were just stupid. ha yolks on me. !
Great Video, two questions though: where can I get those pins from? and what is an alternative to using a plasma cutter?
I have a link and a phone number in the description that you can get the pins from. You can use a Dremel with a large cutoff wheel to cut the pins. It just takes a while
Question !! What do u do about the wiring once it’s done ? And the rubber tube that goes over the wiring ? I’m looking to do this with my doors but do I have to re install all that everytime I put them back on ?
Please let me know the shim placements!! I did not keep record of which shims go where. I managed to get my doors back on and they are only somewhat able to close but with force and do not seal right whatsoever.
Hey, I took my doors off and am not sure about which shims go where. If you could give me pointers on which ones go where it would be greatly appreciated
Can I do this on my 99?
Yes u do!!!!🔥🔥
How can i take the front doors off my 2013 jeep cherokee
Hey man would this be a good option for replacing the pins on a saggy door? What keeps these from sagging over time?
can someone help me, he said "for the 97 and up get these pins" but on the nodoorxj website, the 97 xj pins are in the category with the lower models
Where did you get your door pins from? I looked on that insta site but couldn't find a link
+Ashleigh Fearn You can either DM the admin on the instagram page or give him a call/ text at 732-239-6291. His name is Glen. Let him know I sent you!
so what do you do about the wiring? do you just have those connectors out and disconnect them every time you take the doors off?
+Chase DeCoo Yes. It takes a few minutes to do it, but its not too bad.
This is the first video Ive seen that is exactly my year/setup. Have you done an A/C compressor to on board air yet?
No, I live in Arizona. The AC is a necessity on a daily driver
Any suggestions? :)
Look up the Pabst boys they did it
I like the doors off but if it takes a couple of hour is it worth it? I think if you have a roll cage inside is safer for your jeep to take doors off. Plus I have heard driving without the doors can be rough on your frame. This is for the XJ 97-01.
Well considering xj’s don’t have a frame...
do we have your permission to use this vid at our next stag party? hope so.
I just looked into getting the pins Im just a little hesitant with ordering them. I was just wondering how the ordering process works and if you would definitely trust them with ordering the pins? I just recently got a 96 cherokee and have been dying to take the doors off. Hopefully you'll be able to get back to me thank you!
The pins that i got were for the 97 and newer. The process is different for the 96 and older. I believe that it just involves cutting part of the hinges and doesn't require new pins
@ Madison Maxwell, Not sure why I can't reply to you directly, but I'm in Mesa
how much where the door pins?
Jacob Wilmoth You would have to contact @nodoorXJ on instagram to get the current price. I have his contact info in the video description
I connected him and they are $67 for 2 or $107 for 4...are they worth it or no?
that's pretty pricey for some damn pins
+Jacob Wilmoth go to ace hardware and get the 4 pins for like 4$ a piece
Did you do this to the back doors? And if so did they line up afterwards? Also, would it be easier to cut wires and put a quick disconnect in the hose protector so you don't have to do the kick panel time?
+Billy Kilmon I didn't do my back doors. when I did my fronts, they did line up afterwards. For the wires, I took the screws out of the kick panels. That way they still stay in place, but i can remove them without any tools.
What did u do about the wiring in the doors?
what did you do about the mirrors I'm looking into it for mine but I'm putting a snorkel on it
+Justin Marschner still working that out. im thinking about making something that would slide into the hinge bracket so i could take it off when i put the doore back on
+Admiral Off-Road ok ya I was thinking the same thing if you do can you please do a video
Justin Marschner absolutely
Quick question, is the pin loose or snug enough to seal and will it cause sagging after some time? Also does the Jeep loose structural integrity with them off ?
I haven't had any sagging in the years since installing these. I also have unibody stiffeners so I haven't noticed any additional flex in the body with the doors off. With the unibody stiffeners, I can open the doors with no problem with the jeep fully flexed
What if you don't have a dad with a plasma cutter /:
+georgewastaken 2 options. Option 1: Get adopted by a dad with a plasma cutter. Option 2: cut the hinges with a cutoff wheel on a dremel tool. I started doing that on the passenger side, but it took a while.
Man I really wish I could have seen how you did it with a dremel, the area is way too tight to fit anything. How big was the cutting wheel you used? Pic or clip if possible? I'm just trying to fix my hinges man.
+georgewastaken You could try taking the door off the jeep first and then cutting them to get more room to work. Just make sure to mark how everything lines up first. I ran into the same problem with the dremel which is why i went with the plasma cutter. The directions that come with the pins say to use a dremel with a cutoff wheel, so I'd try to get the biggest wheel possible. If you still cant get to it, you could try using a drill with metal cutting bits. Start small and work up to bigger bits until you cut the pin in half by drilling a big enough hole in it. If you're super careful, you could try a small sawzall as well. let me know if any of these work.
+georgewastaken Are you on the Admiral Off-Road Facebook page? That would be the easiest way for me to send you pics. facebook.com/Admiral-Off-Road-1730912723801407/
+Admiral Off-Road cool i just posted on your timeline, looking forward to hearing from you!
If only the T40 bolts weren't completely fused to the car with rust
do you know the door weight? I am planning on losing all the doors and maybe the rear hatch too on my 93 zj. it is nothing but a woods toy and I figured weatherproofing the interior and putting the jeep on a extreme diet would make it a fun buggy.
+pbahle I don't know off the top of my head. I'll find out and get back to you. If you are going to be removing the hatch, I would suggest adding a roll cage. The hatch adds quite a bit to the structural integrity of the unibody jeeps, adding a cage will help make up for that.
I'm sure it is a big help torsionally, rear bumper mounts and un have totally rotted out. Frame stiffeners and building a custom bumpers are in the pipe dream. 304k miles, no rear brakes, no front sway bar and it drives exactly like a jeep should lol
+pbahle Sounds like the perfect toy for the woods!
What if I have aftermarket speakers in the doors is there anyway this can still work
yes, the connectors might be different, but the rest of the process will be the same
so funny that im watching this and i see the 732 number... Globex is like 20 mins from my house. guessing your in jersey?
Nope, I'm in Arizona
I just did this job couple days ago and it was not I repeat not that simple. True the t40 but you're not getting the two back bolts that easy. Literally took me 7 hours to get my driver's side door off. That is after stripping out two of the bolts and I had to cut them off. So if you're going to do this job it's going to be a down and out fight not that simple not even close mine was a 96 XJ
Can you still use the speakers and power windows and mirrors?
yes. when the wires are reconnected when I put the doors back on, all of the electronics work.
I have a 2000 Xj 4 door with power windows i want to be able to still use this mod by being able to also use connectors to re-wire the power windows and stereo speakers although I'm not sure at all where to get the correct connectors any thoughts ? Also is there anywhere els to get those hinge pins? If so please tell me. And my interior lights actually don't work so I don't need to worry about that
there are connectors for the front door wires behind the kick panel that can be easily connected and disconnected. I'm not aware of any other place to get the door pins other than making your own.
@@AdmiralOffRoad 7/16" x 3 1/2" pin or bolt will work without having to enlarge the pin holes. www.agrisupply.com/hitch-pin-7-16-x-3-1-2/p/106085/
Well your video says 97+ but on a 97 you can't just plasma the pins off you have to cut them and you can't drill them out to 3/8's well you can but it's a huge pain in the ass I've gone threw 3 drill bits on one hinge already
Why does it say 97 and up but I tryed to order some for mine and the guy said that they don't fit a 97 ? False advertisement or losing business?
+Brandon Miller you might have to do the other version of this modification if your hinges are different than the one shown in the video. Good news is that the modification is free for the older version hinges
+Admiral Off-Road how do you do the older version
+Brandon Miller if yours is a 97, it should have the newer style door hinges. This video is for the newer style hinges. If you have an older XJ, here is the mod for the old style hinges: www.xjtalk.com/showthread.php?t=10183
why can't you just put the doors back on normally, why do you need to cut the pins
the pins allow you to remove and install the doors quickly
Have you ran into any electrical issues?
No, all of my electrical components in the door still work. As long as you are careful when you disconnect and reconnect the electrical connections, I don't foresee any issues coming from this.
Hey I have a 2000 Xj and I was doing this to mine but I didn't buy the pins I just got a 3/8 bolt to slide in it. So I went and drilled a 3/8 hole through my hinge and went to test it on the jeep and the bolt wouldn't go through the bushing but if I took the bushing out the hole was to big and the bolt would wobble around How did you get the pin through the bushing
I didn't use the bushing. There will be a little play between the pin and the hole which allows it to slide in and out easily. If you feel like there is too much play, you might have to go to the next size up bolt and drill a slightly bigger hole
+Admiral Off-Road would it hurt anything with the play in it over time? Do you go off-road with your doors off?
+Jay Garrard if there is play in it, your doors will sag a little bit when they are opened. They should still close fine, but you might have to close them a little harder than before. You can also adjust the hinges to compensate for the door sag. I do off-road without doors. I have unibody stiffeners on the jeep and there are no creaking sounds or evidence of body flex.
+Admiral Off-Road thanks for all the help and love the video
Jay Garrard Thanks! hope it all works out. I'd love for you to post a pic of your doorless XJ on our facebook page: facebook.com/admiraloffroad/
Is it exactly the same for a 2 door?
yep
Would this work for a 97 jeep limited
Yep!
I need a price for my 1997 jeep charokee ,limited drivers door
I need a price
Would this work with my 93 Cherokee
No, this is for '97 and newer Cherokees. There are other videos for that type of hinge where you do not need to buy the extra pin. Check out "BleepinJeep" channel.
what part of arizona do u live in
Mesa
MUY BIEN
Hi
hi
Where can i find the door pins
+Pichin DSM All of the contact info is in the description of the video. The guy I got them from can either be reached by phone or through his Instagram page nodoorxj
I try phone and instragram and no results
instagram.com/nodoorxj/?hl=en
are you still having problems finding them?
+Jacob Wilmoth got it
these doors automatically realign! What are you talking about? Is this a comedy or spoof??
I'm gonna take the doors off your xj ;)
The doors shouldn't be removed ...they are actually part of the body and provide strength to the body . This is also illegal in most states . I know you are going to say what about the Wrangler...it was designed to not have doors , that is why it has a wide lower door sill , roll bar , and full frame .
Never had an issue in AZ and I have unibody stiffeners. I can flex the suspension and open and close the doors without issue
@@AdmiralOffRoad ..that's not really what I mean..in a accident the doors help absorb energy and help in a rollover accident .the XJ will look like a crushed pop can after a accident without doors ...myself I would put in a rollbar and run a bar along the lower door sill if you plan on doing a lot of driving without doors .
There was a lot easier way to dothat without useing other hardware
Just made my life a lot easier 👍🏻 ordering the pins soon. But as far as the wires go I was taking the panel off and un hooking the wires and tucking them under my floor mat every time I took the doors off. I didn't know there were connectors behind the plastic piece. I was litterly looking into getting doors from a earlier year just so I wouldn't have wires. But then I learned the hinges are different so it wouldn't work. Lol y'all go follow me on insta 98Jeep_chick 👍🏻
+Ashley Gilbert glad the video helped!
This is illegal