Flint Drill how to and Experimental Archaeology
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Ryan D Gill shows the techniques and beneficial reasons for the stone age flint drill. Applying experimental archaeology into practical application is how we discover things that books and theory alone cannot. Is a flint drill better? watch and find out!
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Hey Ryan, did you ever get any info back from A&M concerning the wear patterns?
Nice video! When I use my stone drills I use a small drill and make a small pilot hole a few mm deep and then come back with my large drill. I set on my butt and but my feet together and put my drill between my heels and spin my dart main shaft like I would if I was making primitive fire. It takes maybe 4 or five minutes at most to do one. I stop often and make sure that everything is good. I do my spur end by hand like you where doing. I also agree about the value of your dart! It's always a sad day when a good dart brakes!
It's by far easier to make a forshaft than a New dart
Are you sitting in a hole? My friend and I dug one in his backyard and your background looks very similiar.
L Seltzer, I’m wondering the same, looks like he’s in a cave
This is my own personal cave actually! lol
Surprised this only has 9k views wtf
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
Occams razor, simplest answer is usually best answer.
Idle hands are the devils playground.
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Thanks for the vid sir
Great video. Would love to see you knapping a drill point.
Don't threaten me with a good time! lol thanks
The best kinda threat
@@huntprimitive9918 This would actually be a really educational video, I'd appreciate that!
If I remember correctly i read ishi used to mounted antlers in a stump or held between the tows and used a hand drill motion to drill out the shafts
Ishi was drilling out arrow shafts, not dart shafts from what I know. Ryan mentioned that due to the size of the dart shafts, the drills snap easily. Since an arrow shaft is smaller, I’d imagine the method ishi was using was more viable.
I saw footage of an Amazonian hunter who had built a platform maybe 6 or 7 feet high to drill out the bore for a blowgun with what looked like a really long arrow using the hand drill technique.
The fact this video has as few views as it does and as few comments as it does is an absolute testament to the state of archeology and primitive tool understanding in America currently. People just don't understand, because they haven't actually made the attempts to understand by trying this stuff themselves. It would take another thousand years if the shit hit the fan for 99% of people to get back to the understanding of these primitive technologies and how these sorts of tools and stuff actually function properly and effectively.
I like it Ryan. Doesn't matter who gave you slack. Etley Sedalia site's have a lot drill forms, a high ratio of broke verses whole. A lot of times when excavating, they're always in a close proximity of fire rock. You don't hardly find any conical drilled hardstone, like a gorget. They will produce a bannerstone or two, though we know those are Reed cane drilled. That particular culture was drilling a lot of something other than hardstone, to have an incredible amount of drills present within a large site. Though of course it is possible that site was periodically used over a course of 2,000 year's, the occupation length of the Etley culture. In my direct area, they made wide variety of knives, 5, and 3 types of projectiles, Sedalia's, Nebo Hill's and the Robinson point which is small (2"/2"&1/2" at most) compared to the first two. Though they're recently recognizing all of the combined points as the same culture. Except the Robinson point, which has a perfect design as a small projectile. Michael Denner shared some ice core readings with me a while back. From everything I can gather during mid-to-late archaic when that culture existed, good River cane wasn't prevalent in our area, for atlatl shaft use. What should dictate they were using some type of sapling that would of need an end drilled for a foreshaft. As you said, an instrument of survival, something as such, you're going to need it usable more than once, most amount of lifespan for it's purpose.
BTW really looking forward to the Bison Atlatl hunt. If I remember correctly, you mentioned June, to be released.
Plus forgot to mention, being an old carpenter and wood craftsman. It makes perfect practical sense to use the drill in the manner in which you did, to create the socket for the foreshaft.
As you mentioned, you can feel everything, not just with the stone drill, but the socket end of the shaft as well. An a hour and a half is a easy job for a healthy hunter.
Took me like 4 hours to drill a hole in my spear for interchangeable shafts. And it was an obsidian drill.
yeah, it pretty much sucks..lol but so rewarding when you are done
Obsidian dulls quickly, maybe that's why
Dude that is awesome! We all wanna see you throw that thing though!
He has videos of him hunting with them
Awesome video ryan. I personally would use the drill as a arrowhead when done using it😂
haha, poor edge and geometry. Historically speaking though, most drills come from old retired and beat down hunting points, implemented into a new useful tool.
Have you ever tried for-shafting arrows?
yup a bunch of times. I have taken some game with them, but they aren't my preferred method for arrows
It's gonna sound fun ,however I got into atlatl and darts from reading books by Michel Greer and by Jean Aeul
So that’s what that is for. I found a campsite full of arrowheads, knife and spear blades, fire pit with petrified Buffalo fish bones with a softball or bigger block of sandstone with what looks like a funnel in the center, runs about inch or so deep with the bottom of the hole completely flat and the diameter of the hole is about the size of a pencil or bigger.. You can see the charred burn marks on the fire pit rocks including that sandstone rock. Then I found something pretty much identical to that.piece. One end is pointed and the other looks like a flathead screwdriver. It’s about the diameter of a pencil and around 2” or a hair longer in length. Interesting.
I’m slap in the middle of Choctaw, Chickasaw and another tribe (can’t remember name) Country. I’m always finding arrowheads, knife and spear heads, flakes, scrapping tools ect ect around here. It’s a lot of fun and very very interesting too!
There’s also quite a few burial mounds,well a lot of em around this area too.
Just sharing your Idaho hunt with another guy and was thinkin. If you ever wanna do a flute video Id sure love to watch it. Your work is practical and effective and still works of art
Do you eat all of your kills ?
absolutely. Meat has always been the number 1 priority and reward. After meat comes the other raw materials many animals supply. Sinew, bone, hide, etc.and now we have found a way to use those kills even further by creating entertainment, education and inspiration.
I socket my forshafts this way ,as far as standing and spinning dart on the drill it exposes you to being seen, for back in that period there were predators and other clans who want what you want
What does the use wear pattern look like on the drill itself after lets say five atlatl shafts drilled out with it. What does the use wear end up looking like from that? Edges ground/polished pretty heavily? Are the cross sections and the flake arisses polished heavily after that much work?
4 centimeters = 1.575 inches. That's deep.
Great ideas here!
Pretty neat
Goood videooo
Do a video on atlatl accuracy!
I have a great one out there (actually 2) already Timbo Slice!
@@huntprimitive9918 with the drilled wood and foreshaft though ya dingus!
Another PLUS to the 1 hour 20’ish minutes to drill the hole: If you’re not doing that then you have to go out and hunt meat in the rain and snow BUT NOW you can now tell ‘her in the cave’ that she has to go hunt because you’re busy today (*whisper* doing the cave man equivalent of ‘watching the game’ on Fox Sports) 😎