For about 4 years all i threw was forehand. Didnt matter what kind of shot it was because thats the only thing i knew. I started watching your videos almost 3 months ago because i really wanted to start throwing backhand. I went and played the same course that the Oklahoma open was on (Blackhawk) in November 2018 and shot +10... Now thanks to your videos and massive amounts of practice, i knocked 13 strokes off my game at that park! My best score at Blackhawk is now -3.
Danny this video was amazingly helpful and helped a timing problem I have been working on for weeks that was costing me ~40ft on my drives, returned instantly, thanks a bunch!!!
Great video, and something I struggle with regularly. My reachback always feels so forced and unnatural so it's rarely consistent. It's always awesome to have these pointers crop back up throughout your videos to keep it fresh. No competition without repetition. P.S. Don't let the haters get to you Danny! Rock the stache if that's what you want.
Great video Danny. One hesitation I have for your drag strip example is that it implies that reaching back further can create more power. This might cause people to lean back to get a "deeper" reachback and will throw people off balance. I did this for a long time. Since you're lifting your torso back over your balance, it also can feel like you're smashing the disc. In reality, you're wasting energy getting your torso back upright. You should reach back by turning, not leaning. Don't think anything you said was wrong, just something people should be aware of.
Yeah I'm definitely not suggesting everyone use this as a mentality while throwing. I hope that came across in the video. This would be something I tell someone who's not reaching back at all or is having a hard time taking their eyes off the target.
Seriously though, you hit on some of the biggest issues. One of the best videos I've seen from anyone on this topic. I like to think of my body like scissors to time my reachback. When my arm is moving back, my legs are opening to the last step. If you keep them connected, it makes it easier to time. Very difficult problems to fix though. Really can get engrained in muscle memory.
No, you didn't suggest it, but I see it a lot. People come from a good place in trying to get it way back for more power, but it's easy to really screw up your throw with it. Just something to be very cognizant of. Your torso should stay upright. You "reach" with your shoulder turn. Seabas22 calls it a "backswing" and not a "reachback" for exactly this reason. Again, great video.
@@drkevns Exactly. I was trying to emphasize that the leg and arm should offset and you should stay balanced. I wish I would have had a point in there on balance now that I think about it. I've thought about calling it a backswing but I think that might encourage people to rotate the disc around to get it behind them rather than move it straight back. Scissors is a great word to describe how it works...Can I steal that?
Yeah of course. Scissors are also a great visual for showing how your entire body lowers to the ground in the last step, and illustrates how we use gravity to help speed up our throw. I made this gif last year when seabas22 and I were talking about balance. ibb.co/hCVHnp See how one "leg" of the scissor is out gliding to the brace as the "arm" reaches back at the same time? You can also see the center of mass (where the blades connect) lower into the brace. This is what I mean by using gravity to assist the throw. That downward momentum is power that is adding into your brace. More power comes from that than the "run up" which is why a good throw should be slow and smooth.
Excellent video! I’ve been playing for 12 years and I’ve watched a LOT of instructional videos, but I still learned some great stuff from you here. Keep ‘em coming!
Danny- I've watched this video a few times and I'm sure I'll watch it a thousand more. You have some of the best disc golf instruction I've ever seen or heard. Have you thought about holding your own classes or clinics? I think they would be a huge hit. Great content. Great instruction. You have helped my game in numerous ways. Keep up the amazing work ❤ Ryan
Danny, you make me LMAO. Keep the stache, lose the stache, it's your call man! I've learned a lot about how to throw because of your Vids. Keep it up. I really appreciate it. Most importantly, I hope that you have great success this year on the course. All my best!
I’ve watched a bunch of Danny’s videos, and the thing he keeps saying that I can’t wrap my head around is ‘keep your shoulder at 90 degrees or bigger.’ Cans anyone dumb it down for me? Otherwise, Mr. Lindahl, your videos have helped me immensely with my game! Thank you!
one comment on "commited" reachback. I feel it's easy to confuse this as reaching back "really far," which is yet another way to rob yourself of distance as a far reachback where you actually start learning will inevitably rob your throw of speed.
Thanks for another great lesson Danny. I'll have to wait a couple of months for the snow to melt to try it. Keep the mustache and I love puns. Just sayin'.
Everyone who has grown facial hair knows you have to go through a period where it just doesnt look that good. Keep rocking your `stache Mr D, i think its starting to get there! Oh, and thanks for yet another great video. Im dying to get out there and throw, but its snow and ice outside here in Norway and like you im bloody freezing!!!
Hey Danny! I really like your great vids. My Rating increased because of you a huge amaount:). By the way... your mustache lookst very good. Keepup the amazing work. Your the man:)
So many great players and huge throwers reach back high. It is very possible to reach back high, even above your head, and end up with a flat release! You could argue it’s less consistent, but I doubt Avery or Wiggins have serious nose up issues.
SirFlanery Avery reaches as high as I would recommend. And he compensates for it with an aggressive wrist angle. That wrist angle is something that’s hard for most players so I teach a low reachback and a more neutral wrist angle.
Danny Lindahl I suppose so. I’ve seen Brinster use that same wrist action sometimes when he reaches back high. Did you see Linus Carlsson play at the Open last year? He had kind of a swoop and might have been throwing slightly nose up like Feldberg but he was crushing it! So smooth
This was my exact problem. I was reaching back straight instead of out and my body was getting in the way as well with an early reach back. Still haven't been able to fix it yet but trying to work on it.
I would say watch what mcbeth does with his reach back. He almost pushes his elbow out right before his reach back. That's what I have tried and it's helped me
I feel like I can never get the timing right on my throws. I feel like I get the timing right on reachback, and when to release, but for the amount of force I put into it, it's like my disc doesn't glide like a good player's will. I have no idea how to explain it. It's almost like my weight transfer would be off, except it doesn't feel like it's that either.
Peak reachback occurs when the front foot hits the ground. Can you be a little more specific? Is max reachback occurring when the front toes hit the ground or the front heel? Thanks!
No definitely not. The acceleration starts more towards the middle of the chest and really the power comes at the very end. The speed starts slow and builds fast till the end of the throw.
Danny, thank you so much for the time and effort you have put in your channel and to help others understand and grow in the sport. Your tips and recommendations have been extremely helpful. I don’t want to develop bad habit and have been following a drill I found not to long ago. I know your time is limited, but I was hoping you would review (perhaps on 2x speed if necessary, 10min video) the drills laid on in this video and let me know if they will create bad habits and muscle memory. The first drill begins at the 4 min. mark, prior to that is explaining the whys. Side request: Perhaps make a video with some drills that will assist with developing proper form and timing of the video below is incorrect or bad. Thanks again for all your content and creations. th-cam.com/video/o3Y0IZ1jptI/w-d-xo.html
Hair loss on head leads to wanting hair on face. When bald men look in the mirror they want to feel hairy to make up for their loss. Kind of like early reach back leads to bad things.
thanks bro sucks people just come in and just make mustache comments for likes and shit anyways i noticed that i can get a good weight shift on a hyzer if i really keep the disc out away from me
Man that mustache is terrible! J/K I can’t grow one to save my life either and my wife gives me grief for it, but I make up for it with my beard. But onto the important thing this is a great video! I watched one of your older videos around November and you were talking about nose down and dipping and I saw I was and fixed that by dropping my reachback. To around my diaphragm and it feels so much better and I’ve gotten the nose down and better distance but I’m curious with the wide and straight your talking about. With the straight or being wide from the body how far do we need the disc wide? Like a wide reachback like you see Nate Doss throw to generate more power?? I’ve heard and read about a wide reachback but when I do that I feel I don’t get into the power pocket fast and tend up missing way right but I’ve stopped doing that. So my I guess where I’m getting at is how far wide do we need to go if there is a general area? Hope it makes sense!
Thanks for the kind words! However, I do have to question your use of the word "either". I like Nate's reachback. As long as it's not around your body and you feel like you can pull it straight without deviating it's fine. Try the wall drill and see if that helps!
Danny. Your a beautiful, wonderful man and I love you..... but change your face because the lip kitten is too much.... you still the man so keep being awesome.... just without the mouth caterpillar.... grow a full beard instead... ok I’m done.
You're videos are great. We're always reminding ourselves by saying "Slow is smooth, smooth is far. Moustache."
For about 4 years all i threw was forehand. Didnt matter what kind of shot it was because thats the only thing i knew. I started watching your videos almost 3 months ago because i really wanted to start throwing backhand. I went and played the same course that the Oklahoma open was on (Blackhawk) in November 2018 and shot +10... Now thanks to your videos and massive amounts of practice, i knocked 13 strokes off my game at that park! My best score at Blackhawk is now -3.
Danny this video was amazingly helpful and helped a timing problem I have been working on for weeks that was costing me ~40ft on my drives, returned instantly, thanks a bunch!!!
I actually watched this video solely for the mustache. Respect.
...
always respect the mustache man
Great video, and something I struggle with regularly. My reachback always feels so forced and unnatural so it's rarely consistent. It's always awesome to have these pointers crop back up throughout your videos to keep it fresh. No competition without repetition.
P.S. Don't let the haters get to you Danny! Rock the stache if that's what you want.
Great video Danny.
One hesitation I have for your drag strip example is that it implies that reaching back further can create more power. This might cause people to lean back to get a "deeper" reachback and will throw people off balance. I did this for a long time. Since you're lifting your torso back over your balance, it also can feel like you're smashing the disc. In reality, you're wasting energy getting your torso back upright. You should reach back by turning, not leaning.
Don't think anything you said was wrong, just something people should be aware of.
Yeah I'm definitely not suggesting everyone use this as a mentality while throwing. I hope that came across in the video. This would be something I tell someone who's not reaching back at all or is having a hard time taking their eyes off the target.
Seriously though, you hit on some of the biggest issues. One of the best videos I've seen from anyone on this topic.
I like to think of my body like scissors to time my reachback. When my arm is moving back, my legs are opening to the last step. If you keep them connected, it makes it easier to time. Very difficult problems to fix though. Really can get engrained in muscle memory.
No, you didn't suggest it, but I see it a lot. People come from a good place in trying to get it way back for more power, but it's easy to really screw up your throw with it. Just something to be very cognizant of.
Your torso should stay upright. You "reach" with your shoulder turn.
Seabas22 calls it a "backswing" and not a "reachback" for exactly this reason.
Again, great video.
@@drkevns Exactly. I was trying to emphasize that the leg and arm should offset and you should stay balanced. I wish I would have had a point in there on balance now that I think about it. I've thought about calling it a backswing but I think that might encourage people to rotate the disc around to get it behind them rather than move it straight back. Scissors is a great word to describe how it works...Can I steal that?
Yeah of course. Scissors are also a great visual for showing how your entire body lowers to the ground in the last step, and illustrates how we use gravity to help speed up our throw. I made this gif last year when seabas22 and I were talking about balance.
ibb.co/hCVHnp
See how one "leg" of the scissor is out gliding to the brace as the "arm" reaches back at the same time?
You can also see the center of mass (where the blades connect) lower into the brace. This is what I mean by using gravity to assist the throw. That downward momentum is power that is adding into your brace. More power comes from that than the "run up" which is why a good throw should be slow and smooth.
Excellent video! I’ve been playing for 12 years and I’ve watched a LOT of instructional videos, but I still learned some great stuff from you here. Keep ‘em coming!
Danny-
I've watched this video a few times and I'm sure I'll watch it a thousand more. You have some of the best disc golf instruction I've ever seen or heard. Have you thought about holding your own classes or clinics? I think they would be a huge hit. Great content. Great instruction. You have helped my game in numerous ways. Keep up the amazing work ❤
Ryan
Danny, you make me LMAO. Keep the stache, lose the stache, it's your call man! I've learned a lot about how to throw because of your Vids. Keep it up. I really appreciate it. Most importantly, I hope that you have great success this year on the course. All my best!
The mustache is one thing, that pun was the real travesty.
I’ve watched a bunch of Danny’s videos, and the thing he keeps saying that I can’t wrap my head around is ‘keep your shoulder at 90 degrees or bigger.’ Cans anyone dumb it down for me? Otherwise, Mr. Lindahl, your videos have helped me immensely with my game! Thank you!
The angle between your upper arm and your chest. If your upper arm is straight out that is 90 degrees.
You look like a rookie cop with that mustache. Can you wear some aviators in your next video Danny?
seconded
Before you know it, we're going to have him cosplaying as Lt. Dangle from Reno 911.
awesome video Danny, thank you
My dude. This is greatness. Have not even made it to the actual tips.
Another great video, Danny. Thanks and happy winter training!
Hahaha, brilliant! I don't wanna shut it off 'cause I'm cold.
one comment on "commited" reachback. I feel it's easy to confuse this as reaching back "really far," which is yet another way to rob yourself of distance as a far reachback where you actually start learning will inevitably rob your throw of speed.
You rock, Danny! Keep in up!
Oh, Danny me boy, you crack me up laddie ... thanks for the laughs ...
Awesome channel. Thanks for all the great tips. You helped me a lot with your explanation on release angles thanks again.
Thanks for another great lesson Danny. I'll have to wait a couple of months for the snow to melt to try it. Keep the mustache and I love puns. Just sayin'.
Your Moms mascara can thicken that mustache right up. Be carefull in the rain.
This was incredibly unsefull. Thank you.
I also rocket a mustache and i also dropped it again and both decisions were right.
Dope video and bad ass mustache
Great video
f I miss the Danny Danger 'stache!!!!
Everyone who has grown facial hair knows you have to go through a period where it just doesnt look that good. Keep rocking your `stache Mr D, i think its starting to get there! Oh, and thanks for yet another great video. Im dying to get out there and throw, but its snow and ice outside here in Norway and like you im bloody freezing!!!
Hey Danny! I really like your great vids. My Rating increased because of you a huge amaount:). By the way... your mustache lookst very good. Keepup the amazing work. Your the man:)
Thanks for the videos, they're very informative!
So many great players and huge throwers reach back high. It is very possible to reach back high, even above your head, and end up with a flat release! You could argue it’s less consistent, but I doubt Avery or Wiggins have serious nose up issues.
SirFlanery Avery reaches as high as I would recommend. And he compensates for it with an aggressive wrist angle. That wrist angle is something that’s hard for most players so I teach a low reachback and a more neutral wrist angle.
Danny Lindahl I suppose so. I’ve seen Brinster use that same wrist action sometimes when he reaches back high. Did you see Linus Carlsson play at the Open last year? He had kind of a swoop and might have been throwing slightly nose up like Feldberg but he was crushing it! So smooth
I like the mustache. Keep up the great videos!
@6:40 well there's your problem with being cold....you want to have the heat on, not the ac :)
Haha I always think of any artificial temperature as air conditioning. It's conditioning the air how I like it! My mistake.
You tell'em man! Screw the cold!!!!!!
props to streaming on twitch! Great stuff
Love the stache
Love the stache bro.
Killer stache!!
This was my exact problem. I was reaching back straight instead of out and my body was getting in the way as well with an early reach back. Still haven't been able to fix it yet but trying to work on it.
I would say watch what mcbeth does with his reach back. He almost pushes his elbow out right before his reach back. That's what I have tried and it's helped me
Do you know of anyone who streams dyeing discs? I wouldn't mind watching someone create some sweet plastic
Andi Disc Golf Dye on Facebook, sometimes he goes live on there.
Great video!!!
This makes perfect sense
This info is legit. Are the thumbs down just for the misstache?
Another great video. One question when you turn shoulders back are you looking at the disc and fallowing it with your eyes?
Off subject, but... What do you use to hang your discs on the wall?
You said it’s too cold to go outside but your air conditioner is on?
Lol never mind. It was the heater
That stash is your thing now bro don't u dare shave it
I feel like I can never get the timing right on my throws. I feel like I get the timing right on reachback, and when to release, but for the amount of force I put into it, it's like my disc doesn't glide like a good player's will. I have no idea how to explain it. It's almost like my weight transfer would be off, except it doesn't feel like it's that either.
The mustache is awesome, I want one too but my wife don’t let me :(
What are you using to hold up your display discs in the background? Nails or tacks, or something like command strips?
Hair goes, stache comes
Would you suggest using a wide rail approach as a fix for extreme rounding to break that muscle memory?
Hey did you every find an answer. Very curious about wide rail, it's still not talked about all that much
Hey Danny - good stuff! Do you know of a way to practice keeping my off arm tucked during the pull?
Hahaha I thought I was the only one who says that joke Haha
Bill Nye the science guy of disc golf
Can I get the courtesy of a reach around?
bro you stashed look cool you look Archer
Peak reachback occurs when the front foot hits the ground. Can you be a little more specific? Is max reachback occurring when the front toes hit the ground or the front heel? Thanks!
When the front toes hit. You can see his demonstration of this in this video at 7:11
th-cam.com/video/TZi2udizIT4/w-d-xo.html
Bro your moustache looks awesome. A beard would be a nice addition though.
do start the accelerated movement of your arm in full reachback? pulling?
No definitely not. The acceleration starts more towards the middle of the chest and really the power comes at the very end. The speed starts slow and builds fast till the end of the throw.
Danny, thank you so much for the time and effort you have put in your channel and to help others understand and grow in the sport. Your tips and recommendations have been extremely helpful.
I don’t want to develop bad habit and have been following a drill I found not to long ago. I know your time is limited, but I was hoping you would review (perhaps on 2x speed if necessary, 10min video) the drills laid on in this video and let me know if they will create bad habits and muscle memory. The first drill begins at the 4 min. mark, prior to that is explaining the whys.
Side request: Perhaps make a video with some drills that will assist with developing proper form and timing of the video below is incorrect or bad. Thanks again for all your content and creations.
th-cam.com/video/o3Y0IZ1jptI/w-d-xo.html
Are you doing form check friday?
Blondes have more fun. Thanks for the tips Danny
Put some dye job on the lip rug
You have to tell us if your a cop you know
Hair loss on head leads to wanting hair on face. When bald men look in the mirror they want to feel hairy to make up for their loss. Kind of like early reach back leads to bad things.
Nice mustache, i lost a bet once too
hang on a gosh darn second....YOU said its freezing outside but then you got interrupted by your air conditioner?!!
thanks bro sucks people just come in and just make mustache comments for likes and shit anyways i noticed that i can get a good weight shift on a hyzer if i really keep the disc out away from me
Man that mustache is terrible! J/K I can’t grow one to save my life either and my wife gives me grief for it, but I make up for it with my beard. But onto the important thing this is a great video! I watched one of your older videos around November and you were talking about nose down and dipping and I saw I was and fixed that by dropping my reachback. To around my diaphragm and it feels so much better and I’ve gotten the nose down and better distance but I’m curious with the wide and straight your talking about.
With the straight or being wide from the body how far do we need the disc wide? Like a wide reachback like you see Nate Doss throw to generate more power?? I’ve heard and read about a wide reachback but when I do that I feel I don’t get into the power pocket fast and tend up missing way right but I’ve stopped doing that. So my I guess where I’m getting at is how far wide do we need to go if there is a general area?
Hope it makes sense!
Thanks for the kind words! However, I do have to question your use of the word "either". I like Nate's reachback. As long as it's not around your body and you feel like you can pull it straight without deviating it's fine. Try the wall drill and see if that helps!
What’s that thing on your face? 😂
Is Reno 911 coming out with another movie? Are you secretly an actor?
Mustache rides?
Dannys plan? pin.it/otanvaipfdrmed
i think u took your mustache from the top of your head...
Shave it.
Here from 2020: **downright pandemic** 😷
Mustache is fine.
But it needs more color. haha. Blonde hair problems. hahaha.
My wife says every man looks better with face hair.
She is right.
That mustache is not smooth bruh. Lol.
I mustache you a question. What’s going on with your upper lip?
Thanks for all the content.👍
I think the 'stach makes you look older. I think you should go for a full beard
He can't even grow a mustache though
@@samhowl1152 he's trying his best
Yes, like 16 instead of 15.
Matt Orum says “you ain’t gotta reach back low” - top 10 player in the world... 🤷🏼♂️
Was literally in the process of writing a really mean comment about your mustache. It's horrible.
Please, for the love of all that is holy. SHAVE THAT MOUSE OFF YOUR FACE.
Danny. Your a beautiful, wonderful man and I love you..... but change your face because the lip kitten is too much.... you still the man so keep being awesome.... just without the mouth caterpillar.... grow a full beard instead... ok I’m done.
Great Video