They will never happen unless you expose these fake con men and women like her, al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and all the other goons that have infiltrated the positions of power in the black greek fraternity.
7/24/2012 ~ This was a great video by Sister Elaine Brown. She covered a lot of territory and brought up a lot of key issues that we need to keep in mind in our daily activities. Let us get rid of all forms of racism and our false illusions of superiority. People are dying now. All of us should get involved and have the courage of our convictions. Be united, not divided. Venceremos Unidos! We Will Win United! Peter S. López AKA @Peta_de_Aztlan ~
she is sooooooo right! ... i gets so sick and tired when people look at blk people so called upward mobilty and advancement, they point toward entertainers, basketball player and comedians and talk show host.... they are not the intellectual capital in the blk community
I have never been so attentive So keen to hear anybody talk but Mme.Elaine B. is Soooo COMPELLING. So Incisive So articulate you have no choice but to LIsten AND PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE YOU DONT WANT TO MISS A WORD. I salute you
Let's ignore the non-black individuals commenting. They are sent here as distraction. Please share this information so we can began to heal our communities. Healing is about love and not about hate. Be empowered by this information to grow, heal and love unconditionally!
No normal, non racist white person will go to a video like this(almost none). It's not something they are preoccupied with. Racism is bad, you shouldn't do, nothing more to discuss. That is all I need to know as a white person. So what you will find under a video such as this are, white, racists and trolls
Ok sure and we'll ignore you when it is convenient for us as well. So remember , it's not discrimination or racism, it is your practice which you advocate.
A lot of the commenters are weirdos who like it when they hurt people, not necessarily the dumb racists they pretend to be. Another good reason to ignore.
Good advice sister. Colin Finch Mostlythinkihave and you right, cause you sure don't see us making comments on white people's videos, they always come to us.
"Elaine killed Betty...She's crazy." -Black Panther Chairman Huey P. Newton, regarding the torture, rape and murder of bookkeeper Betty Van Patter (probably at Huey's command). Elaine set up the LA chapter along with FBI/LAPD, She was a psych case and that's the only reason she was at UCLA at the time. Most legitimate Panthers where jailed or killed long ago.
From an early age, Elaine Brown had a series of adolescent and young-adult love affairs with black and Jewish middle- and upper-class men. In 1965 she left Philadelphia for Los Angeles, where she worked as a cocktail waitress. While there, she met Jay Kennedy, a social activist and a member of the American Comunist Party. Kennedy's radical views were influential in leading Brown towards the Black Power Movement and the Black Panther Party founded in 1966 by Huey P. Newton.
1. decision based on facts: a decision made or an opinion formed after considering the relevant facts or evidence 2. final part of something: the part that brings something to a close 3. final settlement of something: the completion of a formal agreement or deal, especially after long or detailed discussions and arrangements 4. closing argument in trial: the summation or closing argument at the end of the case being tried
In her 1992 autobiography A Taste for Power, Brown's proclivity for violence is given voice by such statements such as, "It is a sensuous thing to know that at one's will an enemy can be struck down." During her tenure as leader of the Panthers, Brown was implicated (although never charged) in the murder of Betty Van Patter, a bookkeeper who had been hired to straighten out the ledgers of the Oakland Community Learning Center, a school funded and staffed by Panther members and affiliates.
During her tenure as leader of the Panthers, Brown was implicated in the murder of Betty Van Patter, a bookkeeper who had been hired to straighten out the ledgers of the Oakland Community Learning Center, an East Oakland ghetto school that was funded and staffed by Panther members and affiliates. When Ms. Van Patter discovered and pointed out some bookkeeping irregularities, she was kidnapped, raped, and bludgeoned to death.
A wealth of information. I do not know what to ask because of all the information mentioned. I love that you are straight forward. This is the first time I have made a connection with you and am grateful and proud of who you are and what you, as well as Angela Davis, represent. I am in my forties and have learned that the " American Dream " was not intended for me. I really would love to join an effort making the American Dream a reality for ALL people here in America. Where do I start?
Former Black panther: An intense woman with a sadistic streak, She led the Panthers toward new brutalities. Her temperament made her well suited for Panther leadership: she was equally at ease moving between the world of the Panthers' white liberal supporters and the violent world of the street. In her 1992 autobiography A Taste for Power, Brown's proclivity for violence is given voice by such statements as, "It is a sensuous thing to know that at one's will an enemy can be struck down."
When Newton in 1974 was indicted for murder and fled to Cuba, he appointed Elaine Brown to run the Party in his absence. An intense woman with a sadistic streak, Brown led the Panthers toward new brutalities. Her temperament made her well suited for Panther leadership: she was equally at ease moving between the world of the Panthers' white liberal supporters and the violent world of the street.
Dear Sista-have two comments flowing from your powerful lecture/presentation, after extending my thanks and gratitude for everything you said, and the way you said what you said! In respect to your comments on what is reputed to be the 1963 March On Washington. Based on my studies, there was a Blackman who was the President of the AFL-CIO, at the time the largest service union in the United States, was responsible for the enormous amount of support from working folks who viewed King's human rights demonstrations right in line with the labor unions fight for higher wages, and other necessary benefits for Blacks, and all other Americans. The last comment, again on the late Dr. King is the due airing of just why he was so insistent on going very far, after being warned away, to defend the rights of the endangered Black garbage men: a number of Black protesting garbage men had been murdered, crushed to death in the inside of the back of garbage trucks in a most unspeakable manner. And, in retrospect, I offer that there could have been a much greater number of Blacks at that March if not for the National Baptist Convention's ideological animus towards Dr. King, and his civil disobedience support. Reparations tomorrow, and will very tardy. We as a people of all ethnic groups should support the efforts of Cong. Conyers, Randall Robinson, you, me, and many others, and learn from the striving of CARICOM, the union of Caribbean countries championing the reparations demands. Much respect for your long-term commitments to our people's safety, empowerment, and happinesses. OneLove
Tell me more about this. I don't admire the thinking of David Horowitz but I will read his interpretation of events. Have additional witnesses come forward?
The United States has produced some of the best researchers, historians and writers in the world. Most of the discourse that is on TV and radio is not based on knowledge. But there is so much information out there. I have spent much time reading and my life experiences from the age of three, when my mother was involved in the Civil Rights Movement in the U.S., have had a great impact.
She is right about America being a business. America was called United States Corporation and the the Virginia Company which the Vatican had stocks in.
@msedeec Black racism is not an impossible fact her bucko. And you've done more to prove it right here than I ever could have. Thanks for the help. I never could have done it by myself. But I knew someone like you would jump in with both feet and yell it out loud and clear. All I had to do was set the stage. And wait. And you did not disappoint me. Thanks pooky.
Yet as long as you brought Beck up this way. Can you argue the opposition to what the video on my page presents? Or are you confined to only insults as an agument of debate? This should be interesting to say the least.
When she talks about "opening new markets" she uses that phrase to mean creating, once again, the opportunity to exploit large groups of vulnerable people.
Wow. She went in on Jesse Jackson, and I fully agree with the critique. Race is not about color its about situation and condition. That took me a long time to understand. Being black in america is a social condition/status as American descendants of slavery ADOS are held at the bottom of the hierarchy. Being black in America means you are apart of a bottom caste defined by poverty and honestly slavery. ADOS got the reparations conversation 2020 here , reparations doesn't have to be the end goal, but we do need it at least to hold us over until complete transformation
Just one question? Is it to late to claim my great great great grandmother was an american indian who was a common law wife to her black husband? Just asking. I need to figuer out where I am in the pecking order. And since I can trace her back to him by records? Does that make me more equal for reparations and get more money myself? Where do I sign up? Who do I talk to about this? Oh wait! I can ask Elaine. She always seems to be so helpful.
There was a man named Saul Alinsky. He was a mid century communist organizer that taught how to devolve an argument rather than debate it. Since debating communism is self defeating. His rule? "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule." Notice! He said ALMOST! And you can see people right here, defending socialism, using his rule. If you want to understand what is happening? You have to understand the Saul Alinsky and Obama connect. It's all there.
I agree with you as far as admiring. I don't truly admire many people at all. I am very selective that way. Most never earn it from me. However! That has nothing to do with if what is being said is factual and truthful. And certainly when a lot came from her own mouth. I don't begrudge anyone a living. But when you place yourself in the education arena you are there to teach and comment on factual evidence and documentation. I taught. I teach. My opinions are irelevent.
The net worth of all the American Africans would make them the 8th wealthiest nation on earth. the big problem is that were not practicing group economics . Reparations will never happen in America it would bankrupt both Europe and America. Second point she is wrong about how we need to take up everyone else's causes. African Americans should be doing business with Africa thus creating a new economy for both Africa and America.
We sacrificed our lives in the 1960s. Our family received bomb threats and an actual attempt for the simple act of participating in fair housing programs. I am extremely disappointed at how far we've come.
@Logical1971 and you know she is saying those exams do not determine if you are ready for university. yes it is still used as a measurement by the authorities, but it doesn't determine that you are fit for university. I've met people who made a 32 or higher on their ACTs and they dropped out their first semester. black people are focussed on education. please understand the dialogue
I have a recent class study in file: An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class. -------------------------------------------- That class had insisted that Obama's socialism (and wealth redistribution) plan worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich; it would be a great equalizer. .
The NOI was limited. If not for them we would not have the truth that Malcom X brought. I have a hard time dismissing organizations because of their flaws. As such I love the USA even though at the beginning it was legal to own my family members as slaves. The USA has evolved and the NOI has evolved, slowly but surely, thanks to the sacrifices of Malcolm.
For instance: I taught automotive mechanical engineering and wrote instruction manuals. I have an opinion that my ford is one of the best cars I've ever owned. But that opinion had no place when discussing or teaching the various engine designs. Generally a piston is a piston, no matter who makes it. They all work the same way. Although designs vary. So the teaching is based on factual materials. Especially if your writing tech manuals. Once you leave the arena OF TRUTH, everyone loses.
@90rashad Great Post, but I wouldn't consider Obama Brown. That's a title used to refer to the Latino Race. He's considerably still Black, as most Biracial "Half Blacks" are. He still looks Black. Blacks come in various skin tones without any other racial admixture and still own the title of being "Black". Black isn't used to describe a color to describe those of African descent. An example, I'm Black, but light-skinned.
I'm not saying that because it is on the air, it has no knowledge base. What I have observed is that most of the discourse on TV and radio is, in fact, not based on knowledge. Read the book "Amazing Grace" by Jonathan Kozol and tell me what you think. You should be able to get it at your library.
@101orson101 ok. I get it and concede she is contradictory. All I am saying is that she lived thru a time when folk were after her and to get a sense of her historically is a good thing. It is good you are critiquing her analysis. I am sure you understand her well, my contention is that she deserves more respect. Reparations does not indicate a lust for money but for justice. Again, I defer to your knowledge of her but I find that too often we dismiss those who lived the history. RESPECT
And she definitely ordered the murder of Betty Van Patter, who was about to expose discrepancies in the Panther's books. She then tried to vilify Van Patter as a criminal in her book, which was proven to be false.
101 I will try and make my distinction clear to you. Sorry to have to break this off now but I have important commitments. Any chance you would make it possible to send messages to accomodate my limitations? I am not sure if you are saying my sarcasm hurts you or think I said that. If you think I said that you are mistaken. I you mean mine hurts you, I will try and refrain from it. I don't think it is helpful.
As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who had studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. The scores never increased, as bickering, bl ame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings, and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
I've tried to make my position on this speech, and the speaker, as clear as i could. But what I have failed to discuss is the rationale of it. Rational is the hoped for kcontent of a person. Rationale is the reason they use to defend opinions. Rationalization is the extended use of ratioanale beyond all reason. Rationalizing is the methodology that makes seeming facts support only one side of a debate or argument. It is a well used tool to explain a belief or opinion, trying to gain agreement.
being Pro black doesn't mean being anti white, She against racism therefore she isn't going to hate any race. She is against Injustice so she doesn't want to trade places with an oppressor but rather live peace with all men. Remember in the beginning where she said that genetics have proven that color is not a definition.
Guess again. But back to the subject at hand, you can call it karmic justice or cosmic justice. Call it what you will, but WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND!
It's one thing to think. If you find a hundred dollar bill on the ground you would be a fool to try to find out who owns it. It's completely different to walk up to someone and say," Give me a hundred bucks or I'll make your life a living hell." And for those that don't seem to understand that? You have a lot more problems than needing or wanting that hundred dollars. And in the end all you learn is to just keep demanding more and more. with nothing ever having any real value to you.
@msedeec A wise man once said that what we think of as our truths, is a product more of what we want to believe, rather than any assumption coming close to truth.
While the Panthers were being investigated for this murder, which according to Newton was ordered by Elaine Brown, Brown ran for the office of the Oakland City Council and garnered 44 percent of the vote. She ingratiated herself with California's then-Governor Jerry Brown (no relation) and was appointed as a Democratic Party delegate. She used this influence to her advantage in awarding choice contracts to her allies.
I never feel that it is "us" against "them" and I'm not interested in stealing from you or doing harm to anyone but I do think that so much of the suffering in the world is unnecessary and preventable.
Yeah but it's how it affects you that differs. White people have benefitted from slavery whereas black people haven't. Weather you agree or disagree she is correct. It's not a matter of opinion.
unfortunately also, slavery will always exist. Just in different forms while dazzled up in pr and marketing. And lets be honest some Italians have African ancestry just cause of the egpyt / roman history
I am now on disability and living on an equivilent to 12 dollars an hour. But 30 or more in a row would tell me.HELL NO! I won't work for less than 20.00 per hour. Poor educations, no work histories, give a shit attitudes, and demanding 20 per hour to start. Or it wasn't worth going off welfare to them. Again! WTF! And then she says," Like I would prefer to have 300 dollars a month on welfare than 30 million from reparations. That's what I want!" The whole thing in a nutshell!
I haven't watched the video yet but I've read the comments. We must make reparations to victims in order to lift them up from their suffering. I find most people to be extremely withholding. They all come up with excuses to justify why they won't give. Giving and helping brings the most happiness and would bring about a beautiful world. Otherwise, we are doomed to be miserable.
I love listening to Elaine Brown, I don’t care how old this speech is,,,, It’s still very RELEVANT TODAY…
This woman is brilliant. What a talk. Knowledge delivered with passion.
I'm inspired by this speech, thank you Dr. Brown.
I love you, Elaine Brown. Keep doin' what you've been doin' 'cause we really, really need you!
Exceptionally applicable. A hugely intelligent woman. Amazing insight.
We as Black people need to solve OUR problems. When that’s done, then and only then should we help others issues.
They will never happen unless you expose these fake con men and women like her, al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and all the other goons that have infiltrated the positions of power in the black greek fraternity.
@@speaklifenewsletter5858 facts
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
Love the voice of her generation.
Now that I've watched the video, I must say that it was heart-wrenching and that I agree with her assessment of the situation.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THE DELIMA, STATUS OF BLACK PEOPLE/AFRICAN AMERICANS BLAÇKS , RED, BROWN.....
Brilliant Woman.
loved this speech. thank you for upload. i appreciate her time line thru black history in america.
7/24/2012 ~ This was a great video by Sister Elaine Brown. She covered a lot of territory and brought up a lot of key issues that we need to keep in mind in our daily activities. Let us get rid of all forms of racism and our false illusions of superiority. People are dying now. All of us should get involved and have the courage of our convictions.
Be united, not divided. Venceremos Unidos! We Will Win United!
Peter S. López AKA @Peta_de_Aztlan ~
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
Sister Brown bless your beautiful soul. Peace Sister Elaine
Elaine is very talented and bright. It is by God’s love that she is still with the living. Her words are inspirational because she spoke the truth.
Wow. I'm just vibrating with inspiration. Thank you Elaine Brown.
she is sooooooo right! ... i gets so sick and tired when people look at blk people so called upward mobilty and advancement, they point toward entertainers, basketball player and comedians and talk show host.... they are not the intellectual capital in the blk community
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
I have never been so attentive So keen to hear anybody talk but Mme.Elaine B. is Soooo COMPELLING. So Incisive So articulate you have no choice but to LIsten AND PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE YOU DONT WANT TO MISS A WORD.
I salute you
Let's ignore the non-black individuals commenting. They are sent here as distraction. Please share this information so we can began to heal our communities. Healing is about love and not about hate. Be empowered by this information to grow, heal and love unconditionally!
No normal, non racist white person will go to a video like this(almost none). It's not something they are preoccupied with. Racism is bad, you shouldn't do, nothing more to discuss. That is all I need to know as a white person. So what you will find under a video such as this are, white, racists and trolls
Ok sure and we'll ignore you when it is convenient for us as well. So remember , it's not discrimination or racism, it is your practice which you advocate.
A lot of the commenters are weirdos who like it when they hurt people, not necessarily the dumb racists they pretend to be. Another good reason to ignore.
Hexa Neuronic
Perfection, Nirvana, Utopia do not exist. The Human experience for all is filled with indignities. Thankfully we all have civil rights.
Good advice sister. Colin Finch Mostlythinkihave and you right, cause you sure don't see us making comments on white people's videos, they always come to us.
Disheartening that in 2021 her words are still so relevant
"Elaine killed Betty...She's crazy." -Black Panther Chairman Huey P. Newton, regarding the torture, rape and murder of bookkeeper Betty Van Patter (probably at Huey's command). Elaine set up the LA chapter along with FBI/LAPD, She was a psych case and that's the only reason she was at UCLA at the time. Most legitimate Panthers where jailed or killed long ago.
From an early age, Elaine Brown had a series of adolescent and young-adult love affairs with black and Jewish middle- and upper-class men. In 1965 she left Philadelphia for Los Angeles, where she worked as a cocktail waitress. While there, she met Jay Kennedy, a social activist and a member of the American Comunist Party. Kennedy's radical views were influential in leading Brown towards the Black Power Movement and the Black Panther Party founded in 1966 by Huey P. Newton.
1. decision based on facts: a decision made or an opinion formed after considering the relevant facts or evidence
2. final part of something: the part that brings something to a close
3. final settlement of something: the completion of a formal agreement or deal, especially after long or detailed discussions and arrangements
4. closing argument in trial: the summation or closing argument at the end of the case being tried
" Be guided by love" I agree completely...
Beautiful and authentic lecture
Thank you. I learned.
Elaine Brown is the TRUTH!!!
Love her❤️
Elaine Brown is amazing
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
Makes sooo much sense. Thanks for your comment. U have a facebook account?
I am in complete agreement---and I AM a sista. In addition, we never should have integrated. We need more sistas like Elaine!!
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
In her 1992 autobiography A Taste for Power, Brown's proclivity for violence is given voice by such statements such as, "It is a sensuous thing to know that at one's will an enemy can be struck down."
During her tenure as leader of the Panthers, Brown was implicated (although never charged) in the murder of Betty Van Patter, a bookkeeper who had been hired to straighten out the ledgers of the Oakland Community Learning Center, a school funded and staffed by Panther members and affiliates.
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
During her tenure as leader of the Panthers, Brown was implicated in the murder of Betty Van Patter, a bookkeeper who had been hired to straighten out the ledgers of the Oakland Community Learning Center, an East Oakland ghetto school that was funded and staffed by Panther members and affiliates. When Ms. Van Patter discovered and pointed out some bookkeeping irregularities, she was kidnapped, raped, and bludgeoned to death.
A wealth of information. I do not know what to ask because of all the information mentioned. I love that you are straight forward. This is the first time I have made a connection with you and am grateful and proud of who you are and what you, as well as Angela Davis, represent. I am in my forties and have learned that the " American Dream " was not intended for me. I really would love to join an effort making the American Dream a reality for ALL people here in America. Where do I start?
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
58:50 - 01.01:29...Brilliant. All Oppression is interconnected and must end.
Former Black panther:
An intense woman with a sadistic streak, She led the Panthers toward new brutalities. Her temperament made her well suited for Panther leadership: she was equally at ease moving between the world of the Panthers' white liberal supporters and the violent world of the street. In her 1992 autobiography A Taste for Power, Brown's proclivity for violence is given voice by such statements as, "It is a sensuous thing to know that at one's will an enemy can be struck down."
When Newton in 1974 was indicted for murder and fled to Cuba, he appointed Elaine Brown to run the Party in his absence.
An intense woman with a sadistic streak, Brown led the Panthers toward new brutalities. Her temperament made her well suited for Panther leadership: she was equally at ease moving between the world of the Panthers' white liberal supporters and the violent world of the street.
Elaine Brown is right, about Jesse Jackson.
Right On, Sis!!
Dear Sista-have two comments flowing from your powerful lecture/presentation, after extending my thanks and gratitude for everything you said, and the way you said what you said! In respect to your comments on what is reputed to be the 1963 March On Washington. Based on my studies, there was a Blackman who was the President of the AFL-CIO, at the time the largest service union in the United States, was responsible for the enormous amount of support from working folks who viewed King's human rights demonstrations right in line with the labor unions fight for higher wages, and other necessary benefits for Blacks, and all other Americans. The last comment, again on the late Dr. King is the due airing of just why he was so insistent on going very far, after being warned away, to defend the rights of the endangered Black garbage men: a number of Black protesting garbage men had been murdered, crushed to death in the inside of the back of garbage trucks in a most unspeakable manner. And, in retrospect, I offer that there could have been a much greater number of Blacks at that March if not for the National Baptist Convention's ideological animus towards Dr. King, and his civil disobedience support. Reparations tomorrow, and will very tardy. We as a people of all ethnic groups should support the efforts of Cong. Conyers, Randall Robinson, you, me, and many others, and learn from the striving of CARICOM, the union of Caribbean countries championing the reparations demands. Much respect for your long-term commitments to our people's safety, empowerment, and happinesses. OneLove
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
Tell me more about this. I don't admire the thinking of David Horowitz but I will read his interpretation of events. Have additional witnesses come forward?
Where is she at now??
Well spoken.
The United States has produced some of the best researchers, historians and writers in the world. Most of the discourse that is on TV and radio is not based on knowledge. But there is so much information out there. I have spent much time reading and my life experiences from the age of three, when my mother was involved in the Civil Rights Movement in the U.S., have had a great impact.
A lot of people need to learn what racism is.
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Excellent feed. Yeah, give me some of that real...Elaine Brown!!!
ACTIVIST Elaine Brown. www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/eyesontheprize/reflect/r09_woman.html
She is right about America being a business. America was called United States Corporation and the the Virginia Company which the Vatican had stocks in.
I love Elaine Brown.
Amazing..this country/the world needs to watch this...
@msedeec Black racism is not an impossible fact her bucko. And you've done more to prove it right here than I ever could have. Thanks for the help. I never could have done it by myself. But I knew someone like you would jump in with both feet and yell it out loud and clear. All I had to do was set the stage. And wait. And you did not disappoint me. Thanks pooky.
Yet as long as you brought Beck up this way. Can you argue the opposition to what the video on my page presents? Or are you confined to only insults as an agument of debate? This should be interesting to say the least.
Thanks for your work awesome speech
Have you read the book "Punished By Rewards?" What do you think of it?
Please check out Anthony Browder and Dr. Claude Anderson.
Thank you for this comment you impacted a soul six years later❤
Still powerful!
When she talks about "opening new markets" she uses that phrase to mean creating, once again, the opportunity to exploit large groups of vulnerable people.
Excellent.
Judi Grace StoryCorps.
I love Ms.Brown she the truth sent by God.
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
Wow. She went in on Jesse Jackson, and I fully agree with the critique. Race is not about color its about situation and condition. That took me a long time to understand. Being black in america is a social condition/status as American descendants of slavery ADOS are held at the bottom of the hierarchy. Being black in America means you are apart of a bottom caste defined by poverty and honestly slavery. ADOS got the reparations conversation 2020 here , reparations doesn't have to be the end goal, but we do need it at least to hold us over until complete transformation
Just one question? Is it to late to claim my great great great grandmother was an american indian who was a common law wife to her black husband? Just asking. I need to figuer out where I am in the pecking order. And since I can trace her back to him by records? Does that make me more equal for reparations and get more money myself? Where do I sign up? Who do I talk to about this? Oh wait! I can ask Elaine. She always seems to be so helpful.
There was a man named Saul Alinsky. He was a mid century communist organizer that taught how to devolve an argument rather than debate it. Since debating communism is self defeating. His rule? "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule." Notice! He said ALMOST! And you can see people right here, defending socialism, using his rule. If you want to understand what is happening? You have to understand the Saul Alinsky and Obama connect. It's all there.
Awesome! God Bless!
yes where is she now
I agree with you as far as admiring. I don't truly admire many people at all. I am very selective that way. Most never earn it from me. However! That has nothing to do with if what is being said is factual and truthful. And certainly when a lot came from her own mouth. I don't begrudge anyone a living. But when you place yourself in the education arena you are there to teach and comment on factual evidence and documentation. I taught. I teach. My opinions are irelevent.
Teach! Teach!! Teach!!!
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
will you be affected by the estate tax?
she is an interesting speaker, lots to ponder here, would like to hear her in a debate with some of the more educated right (I know not easy to find).
How come there aren't more dark skinned activists?
@SylvanSage They've got all the answers....if only the government would implement them.....
You really have no clue what is about to happen, and I love it.
The net worth of all the American Africans would make them the 8th wealthiest nation on earth. the big problem is that were not practicing group economics . Reparations will never happen in America it would bankrupt both Europe and America. Second point she is wrong about how we need to take up everyone else's causes. African Americans should be doing business with Africa thus creating a new economy for both Africa and America.
Paul Flores, you honestly believe EVERY black family has that discussion? It's thought like that, that keeps America from growing.
We sacrificed our lives in the 1960s. Our family received bomb threats and an actual attempt for the simple act of participating in fair housing programs. I am extremely disappointed at how far we've come.
@Logical1971
and you know she is saying those exams do not determine if you are ready for university. yes it is still used as a measurement by the authorities, but it doesn't determine that you are fit for university. I've met people who made a 32 or higher on their ACTs and they dropped out their first semester. black people are focussed on education. please understand the dialogue
Dang girl! Sound like your today's headline news! Absolutely relevant in 2023...
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
I have a recent class study in file:
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before,
but had once failed an entire class.
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That class had insisted that Obama's socialism (and wealth redistribution) plan worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich; it would be a great equalizer.
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The NOI was limited. If not for them we would not have the truth that Malcom X brought. I have a hard time dismissing organizations because of their flaws. As such I love the USA even though at the beginning it was legal to own my family members as slaves. The USA has evolved and the NOI has evolved, slowly but surely, thanks to the sacrifices of Malcolm.
For instance: I taught automotive mechanical engineering and wrote instruction manuals. I have an opinion that my ford is one of the best cars I've ever owned. But that opinion had no place when discussing or teaching the various engine designs. Generally a piston is a piston, no matter who makes it. They all work the same way. Although designs vary. So the teaching is based on factual materials. Especially if your writing tech manuals. Once you leave the arena OF TRUTH, everyone loses.
Long live Ms Brown
So what is the truth of African American experiences in the United States since the importation of them as slaves?
@90rashad Great Post, but I wouldn't consider Obama Brown. That's a title used to refer to the Latino Race. He's considerably still Black, as most Biracial "Half Blacks" are. He still looks Black. Blacks come in various skin tones without any other racial admixture and still own the title of being "Black". Black isn't used to describe a color to describe those of African descent. An example, I'm Black, but light-skinned.
Orson: Have you read the books I suggested? They are very quick reads and you should be able to get them at the library.
I'm not saying that because it is on the air, it has no knowledge base. What I have observed is that most of the discourse on TV and radio is, in fact, not based on knowledge. Read the book "Amazing Grace" by Jonathan Kozol and tell me what you think. You should be able to get it at your library.
@101orson101 ok. I get it and concede she is contradictory. All I am saying is that she lived thru a time when folk were after her and to get a sense of her historically is a good thing. It is good you are critiquing her analysis. I am sure you understand her well, my contention is that she deserves more respect. Reparations does not indicate a lust for money but for justice. Again, I defer to your knowledge of her but I find that too often we dismiss those who lived the history. RESPECT
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.
That's because $12 an hour doesn't pay the bills. More power to those applying to say "NO" to your offer of employment.
And she definitely ordered the murder of Betty Van Patter, who was about to expose discrepancies in the Panther's books. She then tried to vilify Van Patter as a criminal in her book, which was proven to be false.
Adrian? No response? LMAO, That was already anticipated!
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I will try and make my distinction clear to you. Sorry to have to break this off now but I have important commitments. Any chance you would make it possible to send messages to accomodate my limitations? I am not sure if you are saying my sarcasm hurts you or think I said that. If you think I said that you are mistaken. I you mean mine hurts you, I will try and refrain from it. I don't think it is helpful.
Actually, YOU have no idea of what's in store for you! I remember you, ptbwf. We have battled before.
As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who had studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little.
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
The scores never increased, as bickering,
bl ame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings, and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
what really sad is when people believe without investigating.
I've tried to make my position on this speech, and the speaker, as clear as i could. But what I have failed to discuss is the rationale of it. Rational is the hoped for kcontent of a person. Rationale is the reason they use to defend opinions. Rationalization is the extended use of ratioanale beyond all reason. Rationalizing is the methodology that makes seeming facts support only one side of a debate or argument. It is a well used tool to explain a belief or opinion, trying to gain agreement.
being Pro black doesn't mean being anti white, She against racism therefore she isn't going to hate any race. She is against Injustice so she doesn't want to trade places with an oppressor but rather live peace with all men. Remember in the beginning where she said that genetics have proven that color is not a definition.
Guess again. But back to the subject at hand, you can call it karmic justice or cosmic justice. Call it what you will, but WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND!
It's one thing to think. If you find a hundred dollar bill on the ground you would be a fool to try to find out who owns it. It's completely different to walk up to someone and say," Give me a hundred bucks or I'll make your life a living hell." And for those that don't seem to understand that? You have a lot more problems than needing or wanting that hundred dollars. And in the end all you learn is to just keep demanding more and more. with nothing ever having any real value to you.
@msedeec A wise man once said that what we think of as our truths, is a product more of what we want to believe, rather than any assumption coming close to truth.
While the Panthers were being investigated for this murder, which according to Newton was ordered by Elaine Brown, Brown ran for the office of the Oakland City Council and garnered 44 percent of the vote. She ingratiated herself with California's then-Governor Jerry Brown (no relation) and was appointed as a Democratic Party delegate. She used this influence to her advantage in awarding choice contracts to her allies.
I take it that "you" didn't get one of those "contracts."
You are Fabulous!
I never feel that it is "us" against "them" and I'm not interested in stealing from you or doing harm to anyone but I do think that so much of the suffering in the world is unnecessary and preventable.
I absolutely agree!!!
some things I do not agree with, some I do. but slavery and racism has effected more than just "black" people
that is what she said at the end. did you watch the entire thing?
yes, but i am saying i agree with some points and disagree with others. i just wanted to say though, racism and slavery effects all people.
Yeah but it's how it affects you that differs. White people have benefitted from slavery whereas black people haven't. Weather you agree or disagree she is correct. It's not a matter of opinion.
back people in Africa have benefited, so have Persians, Mongolians etc etc. Whichever "civilization" is in control, will control the people.
unfortunately also, slavery will always exist. Just in different forms while dazzled up in pr and marketing. And lets be honest some Italians have African ancestry just cause of the egpyt / roman history
a third world within a superpower that is powerful
I am now on disability and living on an equivilent to 12 dollars an hour. But 30 or more in a row would tell me.HELL NO! I won't work for less than 20.00 per hour. Poor educations, no work histories, give a shit attitudes, and demanding 20 per hour to start. Or it wasn't worth going off welfare to them. Again! WTF! And then she says," Like I would prefer to have 300 dollars a month on welfare than 30 million from reparations. That's what I want!" The whole thing in a nutshell!
I haven't watched the video yet but I've read the comments. We must make reparations to victims in order to lift them up from their suffering. I find most people to be extremely withholding. They all come up with excuses to justify why they won't give. Giving and helping brings the most happiness and would bring about a beautiful world. Otherwise, we are doomed to be miserable.
Black people were building pyramids when whites were dragging their knuckles.