SO UPDATE on the site, as it is for sale I was sent some more information on it. There was at one point a slate processing plant, or at least scheduled. However there had also been a different use of the site which nobody knows what or when was. not even local government. And during the war there was a Luftwaffe airfield in the area also. So a little more and still a bit of a mystery in there.
Respectful greetings Tino, You may find it worthwhile to research one Dr.Ing.Professor Eugen Sanger; Project Silbervogel. Basically an horizontally launched version of an early Space Shuttle, known in 1942 as an "Orbital Space Plane". It was designed to be launched from a ramp inclined at an average of 17 degrees, with an final upturn of 23 degrees, much like a modern ski-ramp. Construction date for the ramp was said to be August of 1942, right around the time Sanger was granted permission to construct his spaceplane. This was cancelled in late 1944, by which time the ramp would have been almost complete. Alongside the ramp was to have been solid rocket launch booster factories, reluctantly accepted by Sanger as necessary once supplies of A4 liquid-fueled rocket engines had been bottlenecked by the August 1943 RAF raid on Peenemunde. Whilst most WW2 researchers have described Sanger's project as 'fanciful'; it remains true that it did receive permission to be constructed, and most researchers do not mention the location of either the Test or Launch Site; which you may have unwittingly just located. ... Hence my suggestion here. Kind and Respectful Regards Tino, Uyraell, New Zealand.
As someone who grew up in the cement belt of the United States (eastern Pennsylvania) I believe you have stumbled upon the remains of a cement mill, the "Bridge pillars" are horizontal rotary kiln supports, and the tunnels are for chain drags, a type of material conveyor
Looking at the plants in the Hudson Valley I can see your point. The Ravena plant even has dual rotary kilns. But I don't see any indication of cross tunnels between the piers. And is there any indication of actual mining in the area? The Hudson River plants are all open pit... only the very old ones were underground. Also kilns usually have rather large buildings at both ends which there's no indication of. But they may have been demolished or never built. Just seems weird.
my dear Watson, i believe you have found another bunker... on another note, everyone needs to crowdsource you a lidar drone, you can see far more, outlines hidden places ect.... this knowledge is invaluable, due to the way the world is
Poland is completely lidar scanned, the data publicly accessible in quite good resolution via the polish geoportal. Of course scanning with a drone would give much more details.
This post-war facility has nothing to do with the "Riese" project !. A slate roasting plant was to be built here, construction work began in 1974. 70 industrial facilities of various sizes, a railway line, a water tank, two fuel tanks and two 150-meter furnaces for burning loot were to be built here. These are the concrete bases seen in the video. The amazing thing about this over one billion investment was that already during the implementation it was known that the roasting plant would not be profitable. One ton of the finished product was to cost PLN 30,000 in Dzikowiec, and the same product imported from Great Britain cost only PLN 12,000! It also turned out that the area suffers from shortages of water needed for the industrial production of slate. It also turned out that the mines in Nowa Ruda and Słupiec would not supply the right amount of slate of the right quality. In 1981, work was 72% advanced. Both rotary kilns fueled with mazut have already been installed on the supports. A 3.6 ha water tank, chimneys, warehouses and canals have been built. In 1983, a decision was made to suspend the works. In the same year, disassembly of the factory's facilities and equipment was started
Cool, good to know and still an urbex dream. Questions, would the kilns need to be that high? And why did the local officials tell Tino it was a silk manufacturing plant? Thats a bit of a jump from slate to silk. The plans must still exist somewhere and some photos must also be available to confirm whatever it was. I'm all for things being mundane, but mundane means plans, permission, technical details and any other documentation for a civil project must be available. They don't get thrown away unless something is not what it seems.
@@kumagatz I don't know what officials Tino was talking to? . Tino doesn't know the Polish language and here you had to ask older people who have been living there for years. I'm from Poland and for many years I've been interested in the history of World War II, including the complex ''Riese''. During an investigation, sometimes you have to ask a lot of people and read a lot of documents, not just film the place itself. Tino should know this as a person dealing with the history of the Second World War.
He does not speak the language. Still, an official from the area should know. I am quite happy to believe its not WW2, but would like to see drawings or photos anyway. Poland amazes me, its gone through a lot during WW2, after WW2 and still is today.
There are also records on the Internet about the factory in Dzikowiec, you have to enter the words " Prażalnia Łupków Ogniotrwałych w Dzikowcu." in Polish and use a translator. There is even an official government document from 1986 on abandoned investments. "RESOLUTION No. 108 OF THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS - of July 16, 1986. In Polish "UCHWAŁA Nr 108 RADY MINISTRÓW - z dnia 16 lipca 1986 r. " under number 16 there is a record about the complete liquidation of the factory in Dzikowiec . You also need to know that in Dzikowiec there was an old German slate roasting plant . A new slate roasting plant was to be built nearby but construction was never completed. Currently, the factory area is divided into smaller building plots and is intended for sale.
@@kumagatz A simple answer to your question "why did the local officials tell Tino it was a silk manufacturing plant?" is that they were having a joke at his expense to lighten a boring day, I mean can you think of anything more juxtapose than cement and silk! 😆
Tino, just a few thoughts. I didnt see any security fencing or reminents of defensive positions. With that much electricity and power running to the complex and the linear construction of the buildings, perhaps this was an early attempt by the Germans and then later taken over by the Russians to create a particle accelerator to further research fission and splitting the atom? There seems to be a large underground complex that needs further exploration. The site would benefit from a Lidar Scan overhead from a plane. This can be done and would allow you to penetrate the foliage and decay to reveal patterns and building infrastructure that you cant see from the ground. Someone needs to invent a Lidar system for a drone. Just some thoughts to add to the discussion. I am wondering the reason we cant seem to make out what exactly is going on there is due to German and then Russian reconstruction of the area so with two building methods it makes it difficult to ascertain what was the original intent of the location.
Poland is completely lidar scanned, the data publicly accessible in quite good resolution via the polish geoportal. Lidar scanners for drones don't need to be invented, they exist and are available commercially (but cost several thousands). Of course scanning with a drone would give much more details.
Looks like classical coal bunkers and conveyor belt shafts, the two parallel walls look like the runway for a coal loader scraper, with the coal storage area between them. Perhaps a coal powerplant, cement plant with a rotary pipe oven or another industrial facility (chemical, fuel, explosives, ...).
There's already a power plant nearby. Chemical, cement, explosives plant seem to be top guesses. Someone mentioned some of it looking like a nylon plant their dad had worked at which kinda fits with the silk thing other than that crazy "bridge pillar" thing
@@AmerikinJackass No, doesn't make any sence. Do to the Diabas quarry nearby and the very long lasting history in coal mining in the nearest area, the cement plant is my best guess.
Ironically this could even be a popcorn factory and yet its remoteness and eerie solitude convey an impression more sinister than our questioning senses perceive. Comparatively easy to do anything on The Henge and get clicks and yet this tour was far more compelling due to it's uncluttered objectivity and openness. You are a fantastic historian, researcher and communicator. In a different world you would be a mainstream celebrity. But surely there's far more cudos and honour in cult status, if not the rewards of mamon. No ?
That long, short wall looks very much like early Mag-Lev train track. Like a monorail, but 'enhanced' with electromagnets. There are visible iron rebars within the wall, and the plastic pipes could be remains of post-war research. Excellent video as always, thank you Tino!
"Silk factory"? ROFL!! They must have been desperate to come up with that explanation! I love it when you find something new and mysterious, especially when its bang in the middle of Kammlerville :) Everything points to a flooded underground here, especially those sloping ramp structures. The first bit you showed with the ramped chutes, i could imagine rail carriages filled with coal pulling up and tipping coal into the silos for use in some underground facility. I'd love to see a LIDAR scan of that area! The mysterious "not bridge pillars" have the same look about them as the henge structure, as if they were designed at the same time and intrinsic to the purpose. Really intriguing stuff!
That mismatched jigsaw puzzle of buildings got me wondering to.Never seen builds like that before but had to be multi purpose what ever it was used for.Great Video once again you got me thinking on this.
26:24 Ceiling mounted cranes for loading or unloading? 31:40 These are counter weights for use in scales, balances or perhaps some sort of mechanism for moving items in an automated process. 42:16 High Voltages... 42:50 Styrofoam was used as insulation for industrial processes or as insulation for buildings. Do radiological survey (Geiger)? Metal detecting and mapping any 'hits'? Go ask the business people at the building you saw and ask them what they think it was used for, someone will know something and may give considerable info. My guess is Aluminum production.
Hello and thank you for your great work! This is a really strange place! As an "old" German, history-loving... nutcase, I have never seen such a facility!? What I think is possible is a production line - perhaps two parallel ones for heavy battle tanks or something similar - as it seems sensible to build the necessary assembly cranes out of concrete (the "bridge piers with electrics... perhaps). And it was possibly planned - once the production line is installed - to build a submarine bunker-like structure out of meter-thick concrete as a "shell" around everything!?
The "electrical panel" looks very much like the cover to a control panel for a bank of ventilation fans. On/off switch for power to the box, push buttons to start/stop/high/ low speed etc. Fits with the ventilation grates. We use a similar set up to provide ventilation on a ship. So any enclosed space needing large volumes of air moved would use the same.
I think all those round wells are sumps for pumping ground water to keep a large underground system dry. The maintenance support buildings could be generators to supply power for the pumps as well as for the bunkers. There must be archived photos in the local library? The cement towers I believe were supports for large bins. The bins would be filled continiously by conveors. Rail cars would be backed or pulled through the towers to be loaded very quickly with material. I belive you found an underground factory that has been flooded.
Hi Tino. With the greatest respect: the key to your mystery instalation is the configuration on top of each tower. Those are locking shoes with two square metal plates at the front for electro-magnetic clamping. You can see the curved surface in the slabs in-close behind these plates for a "backing in and locking" maneuver from an airborne object. The first Nazi space-fairing mother ships (not atmospheric Hanabue saucers ) were converted Type XXl submarines. Watertight is also airtight for lunar transit. Measure the distance between the first and last large tower and I am sure such a U-boat would be nicely supported on top...in pairs right and left. They are docking towers for an aerial U-boat pen with holes for cables and pipes to refuel/provision from beneath. The “skirts” are to protect people on the ground from some kind of blast from the anti-gravity drive during liftoff, and the small towers must have been docks for “mini-subs”. Obviously never finished (moved to New Berlin in Antarctica?) since you can see the metal speed-forms still in place on the walls of a couple of support pits. Recall that Ferdinand Schorner's entire army was diverted from the Battle of Seelow Heights to protect this area instead of Berlin. Tim
Very strange indeed, too much strange, strange the shape of the buildings etc., strange the layout of building etc.. I think that could be some sort of proving ground or experimental station. Another problem is the date of construction.
Maybe the 'crane mounts' are tower foundations? given the isolation but proximity to other sites . . . would it be possible for this to have been LF/VLF/ELF communications? that may well account for some of the power requirements
Looks like a concrete production plant with those hoppers. Possibly with conveyor belts. Also the large structures look like they could pre cast tunnel sections which were loaded onto trains. Just a guess
Just going by the visuals... I think you've found a synthetic fuel research / production facility. I can't see the "bridges" as anything other than bases for elevated storage tanks. The "monorail" is almost certainly footings for a pipeline.
Hi Tino, the wall about 1m high adjacent to the railroad tracks could be a barrier to water if the site was actively flooded, e.g. in case of fire or for protection. Such a protective function had e.g. also the airfield of the Junkers aircraft works in Dessau. Thus, a device of intentional flooding of areas is known.
Looks like a site for testning different construction techniques in concrete, testing cement mixtures, perhaps in combination with education, problably from 1950”s
The first buildings were for side tipping rail cars, but how they have set it up is a bit baffling, as the cars would tip but then they made it a bit Awkard to then get at whatever was tipped out, so I am guessing we are missing a key component of those buildings that is long gone. The area with the low parrel walls it wouldn't be a filled in overgrown water storage (talking man made shallow lake), they obviously needed a heck of a lot of water. Didn't they use hydrogen peroxide? Is this a small chemical plant? Yeah could be explosives but the set up is strangely way over engineered for that, but doesn't so much for hydrogen peroxide. Either way I am seeing a small chemical plant of some sort.
Another commenter recognized very similar conveyor sections to a nylon plant that was near them. Would explain the silk story. The "Bridge" parts don't seem to fit that though, maybe another chemical process. Perhaps a train geek could figure out what kind of car was unloaded in such a way and narrow down what they were moving.
Limestone is used to make steel. I would guess steel wire rope and cable. Think how big a cable car cable wheel/reel is, the wheel/reel size and how they twist the rope? The biggest structure at the end with the holes in the top would be the last and the steel rope/cable would go through onto a big reel. The big area with the track next to it would be to wind the cable into thicker cable (google 9/16 rope for how wire is made) and the pit/ramp is likely the galvanizing area, this can be hot dipped or electrically done. Thats my guess. I think silk production got lost in translation.
at 40+ min talk about generators on rails, but nowadays power transformers are still placed on rails in part surrounded by a building of which one side has no wall, I wouldn't be surprised that this is an equivalent setup. greetigs from the Netherlands ;)
Tino needs to get a tethered, and an untethered underwater drone to investigate such water-filled structures. Although I agree with Mr. Wolf, it does look very reminiscent of Cement production facilities. Are there any limestone quarries, or other components of cement in the area?
Parts of the large underground steps that if you look at that has steps leading down with the ramp in the middle. The sides have they been made from marble, or faced in marble? It really does look like it’s partially done in it in, and other places within the site. It starts 18:13 Tino. That if you look carefully it looks like the vein is fund purposeful in the same direction other places. It’s just a observation I seen which you get in slabs of marble or granite. As both are hard wearing needing a lot of pressure to break. It looked very high tech building for what purpose I hope someone will have a answer too?
I have a hypothesis.. It was an air field. The arches or the supposed bridge parts are a place where trains would bring newly assembled fighter planes under camouflage netting between the pilars. The smaller "bridge" parts are for the end part of the train where the cargo carriages were so there was enough space to unload the planes. All tracks have long since been removed for scrap. The brick buildings held a series of generators to power the whole field. Technical buildings for Electric distributions, fueling and water for the locomotives. So basically just maintainance for both the fighter planes and the trains that brought them there..
good thoughts/suggestions Frank, but i still wonder why those arches were all designed differently and with differing shapes and sizes if all they were is supports or archways? And why all the anchors and open tubes in the roof sections? Why not just build rows of identical arches? They seem to have served a technical purpose, especially with the tech. tunnels connecting them. You might be onto something about camouflage netting between the platforms though, as I wondered about there being some sort of cover draped over them.
There is a row of silver birch trees around our local church, built 1967 if you take the size of them and compare them to these ones I'd say these are about 30 years old, which would be perfect for the end of the cold war 1989-90.
The round things that look like mines are scale weights for a platform scale, i believe . Albeit much larger but if you're dealing with materials like say aggregates or cement they would be large
Interesting site Tino. Difficult to figure out what it was used for when comparing to modern facilities. The best I can think of is some type of refinery.
When it comes to pre WW II / WW II Germany, EVERYthing is natherious !...and I want it to be !!!! Yet, There were still civilian industerial concerns amoung all the secret research. I love these vids...I love what Tino is doing and I love spending my time here ! Germany still protected it's civilian NON MILITARY sites if they were vital to the war. I have NO CLUE what is here and why, But that makes my mind wander all the more. Thanx Tino for another intreaguing (spelling), informative and enjoyable presentation !
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Great video just read through all comments have to agree with a few that the first part is for railway tipper carts but the site looks like it is a wet site that is regularly flooded and the land has been levelled so that shallow lakes and pools can be raised and drained the towers for carrying mono rail lifting equipment over water. I would say the construction is Russian eastern block If we are talking Cold War Both Soviet Union and allies broke the rules and continued manufacturing CBW then the manufacturing of silk would make a plausible cover story Think you need to get that wooden paddle stirrer tested Bill
I have to think that the structures that would be a dead giveaway as to what the area you documented was a part of are long gone, but I 'm thinking that the majority of the area that you've documented in this video is relating to underground high voltage power generation and transmission. There appear to be many chaseways through concrete walls/floors/ceilings for wiring and airflow, two massive buildings for ventilation fans, and underground tunnels with unrestricted airflow and mounts for very heavy cables. I expect that there's also a lot more to see or since destroyed tunnels to support this theory. Also note those two brick-core buildings, they may have been from an earlier time and repurposed, but there are also other reasons for omitting ferrous materials from a buildings construction, such as magnetic fields.
Some thoughts. From my experiences of exploring former rail formations in the UK, the size of trees and other growth strongly suggests this site was in use until the 1980s or even later, so there should be some local knowledge of its more recent history. The dimensions and proportions of the linear features strongly suggest railway infrastructure and the presence of ballast stone supports this. The "paddle" looks like part of a brake stick for railway wagons although I don't know if continental railways used such things. It looks as if some sort of bulk material was being delivered by rail and dumped into something underground which is very odd. It can't be for concealment as there is so much above ground infrastructure or to keep it dry as a building would be easier and cheaper. Could the towers be part of an uncompleted launch ramp for something? Maybe using electrical rail gun type technology. What alignment do they follow, if they happened to be aligned on London or New York that might be a clue. You have suggested that some of the nearby wartime activity was linked to nuclear weapons which lacked a delivery mechanism, could this be it? By the way if you find any intact electrical insulators the rule of thumb is to have one "bump" per 10 kV so if you have a complete one you can tell the approximate voltage it was designed to carry.
what if the 'bridge pillars' would be connected up with pre-stressed concrete slabs? that would explain the lip on their tops and would leave one very big space underneath. maybe curve the sides down from the 'pillars', make it look like a hilltop, and you have an aircraft production facility.
I have no idea what this was but the area with steel stanchions appears to have been a Gantry crane very interesting place great video thanks Tino let's try find out what this was
Looks like a process plant with underground conveyor tunnels. The tall sections seem similar to the abandoned German cement woks on the coast of France. As you say there is a lot of German works in the area.
Yes - it seems (at least for me) that the layout of these things does match the typical layout of a cement factory with two parallel horizontal sloping kilns sitting on those giant pillars. Google: "cement factory layout", "cement factory aerial"
The first but were a marshalling yrd for rail carts. Then you walked thru 2 tip siloes where carts dumps masses frome huge railwaycars that has hatches underneath. Look at old coal carts and you see similar constructions. My best bet is coal or limestone beeing dumped in those siloes.. The long foundations are most likely the outer support walls for an major factory that did not needed heating internally and only needed light walls. As i interpret it it whould be eighter a coal processing plant or a limestone processing plant.
You could use Dendrochronology on a few of the trees, and bizarrely you could do it on some of the concrete judging by the linger prints left by the wood.
I think I can help you out. Those stones ARE likely to be railway ballast. Those bin- like things are a facility for cleaning out steam locomotive fireboxes. Poland used steam locomotives up into the 1980s.. Most of the stuff you showed us looks like a locomotive facility. Anything I don't recognize may be simply because I'm an American.
You prob know the nazis relied on steam locomotives having lots of coal & little oil. In the former Yugoslavia there is a region where they still use the 1930s (WW2) standard issue German steam locomotives, from memory they had ~8, 4 running, 4 for parts.
This reminds me of something from some old photos my grandfather had that had he was from Poland and there was pillers like them in the pictures with like radar things on and a long duga sort of thing down one side don't know if this is the place but I remember the photos well
@Lost Battlefields w Timo Von Struckman, Have you considered as it’s Poland; that it could be Warsaw Pact area, the Russian would use trains to brig closer to Europe battlefield nukes. Storing them underground as you suggested and the circular pits could be water reservoirs for the trains either steam or it could be for cooling The 3 Sided ramp with steps could be below ground missile storage? The Iranians currently do it! Out of site of satellites It could also be as it’s Poland, an old USSR radio long distance listening station with the technical building for the radio decoding intelligence cell Great video And yes I’m veteran military like you Food for thought. Jonathan
Maybe those long cement things were footings for a very large building and those columns would have been support columns with an overhead crain that would run back and forth.
I would grab that paddle and have it tested to find out what chemicals it has been in contact with . My guess is a missle testing and development area . The large towers for assembly and testing large solid propellant missles , the holes through them for winch lifting cables . The single rail could have been used for testing smaller rockets . The building with 2 pits could have been used for mixing solid rocket propellant . And underground is where you would want to be if one blew up during testing
Steel rope manufacturing would be my guess. The ramp pits would likely be for galvanising. All the steel foundations around would be for big wheels pulling it along. The pilers were likely the twisting part and then fed down the last big pilar and put on big reels. I guess the big flat area near the rails was for bigger stee rope production as they would have to twist multiple lengths together and lay it out. It would be very heavy before they would be cut to length and why there are track and crane foundations. You would need a lot of power to move the cable/rope and twist it. Looks to be two production lines with those towers which are matching. The tunnels under would be for power cables as each would have a motor on top like a wheel you would see at a coal mine All a guess though.
Looking at the remaining impressions in the concrete from construction it is evident that (plywood?) rather than the more traditional wood plant forms during ww2 were used. Your assumption that this was for post war industrial purposes is strong.
If those trees are silver birch, then they are very quick growing. They can grow to 25 meters in 20 years. Look like they have been cut down and have regrown in places too! So could be older?
Imagine Timo it’s a rocket ICBM USSR test facility early 50-60’s and as you said 2x control bunkers. They would put them the far end away from any test rig in case of a failed test/ rocket failure Large end one end, small end the other; that’s Venturi effect If it’s electrical; then it’s USSR EARLY warning radar array like Siberia and Sakhalin island Jonathan
The site is near a small village called Dzikowiec. I visited the site in the summer of 2022. It's a big site and it's part WW2 (90%) and USSR (10%) era. The weird thing is that railway rails are gone. Only the ballast beds are still there. Also the infrastructure of the place looks not as developed as other similar factory sites. If you compare it to other similar size factories then this place doesn't look like it ever was in use. On the other hand, there is an old limestone quarry arround the corner. It could be possible that they tried to make synthetic fuel out of the limestone. Maybe that's one of the most feaseble possibilities. We know that the Germans where way ahead with making synthetic fuels. Look at the site they build near Police in Poland. That's a way bigger factory and a very impressive site that was in use during WW2.
Lime stone can be used to make pig iron, then into steel. I would guess it was a steel rope/cable production facility. I guess there would be a small foundry nearby.
I know what this is ,the things were for concrete unloading. I was just looking at model railway structures made by PIKO and a concrete unloading platform where the concrete wagons would run up a ramp over hopper wagons and unload. All of this thing wad a massive concrete/gravel facility.
The round things in the "bridge pillar" tech tunnels look like weights for a scale we used in the 1970s to weigh grain trucks. Whatever the tall pillars are i think it was built to measure something. But i am a loss as to what. Way too much tech buildings and heavy lifting platforms laying around. The long short walls may be a mixing bed for a road grader. When i was a kid the local state of Missouri road maintenance guys would mix asphalt for the road outside with a grader and load it onti dump trucks to build roads.
Tino, I'm disappointed that your interview with Michael Shrimpton is not available for viewing. I watched it, it was a good interview. I would imagine Joseph shares a lot of Michaels opinions, with him being a R.Orthodox Christian. Please repost the interview. Even if you don't agree with it. With all due respect. John
So in looking at the construction, they used panels to mold the walls. Nothing built by the Germans that you have shown uses panels, just boards. It's therefore post war. The rebar sticking out says to me that it's either not finished or built in a hurry or both. All kinds of interesting buildings. Very close to the castle, and the test site of German nuke tests. Thoughts: what if the Russians found plans for a German rocket launch facility and wanted to see the infrastructure for real, never finished it just because, and then left. Ask the Pentagon, they can probably tell you.
SO UPDATE on the site, as it is for sale I was sent some more information on it. There was at one point a slate processing plant, or at least scheduled. However there had also been a different use of the site which nobody knows what or when was. not even local government. And during the war there was a Luftwaffe airfield in the area also. So a little more and still a bit of a mystery in there.
Respectful greetings Tino,
You may find it worthwhile to research one Dr.Ing.Professor Eugen Sanger;
Project Silbervogel. Basically an horizontally launched version of an early Space Shuttle,
known in 1942 as an "Orbital Space Plane".
It was designed to be launched from a ramp inclined at an average of 17 degrees, with an final upturn of 23 degrees, much like a modern ski-ramp.
Construction date for the ramp was said to be August of 1942,
right around the time Sanger was granted permission to construct his spaceplane.
This was cancelled in late 1944, by which time the ramp would have been almost complete.
Alongside the ramp was to have been solid rocket launch booster factories, reluctantly accepted by Sanger as necessary once supplies of A4 liquid-fueled rocket engines had been bottlenecked by the August 1943 RAF raid on Peenemunde.
Whilst most WW2 researchers have described Sanger's project as 'fanciful'; it remains true that it did receive permission to be constructed, and most researchers do not mention the location of either the Test or Launch Site; which you may have unwittingly just located.
... Hence my suggestion here.
Kind and Respectful Regards Tino,
Uyraell, New Zealand.
As someone who grew up in the cement belt of the United States (eastern Pennsylvania) I believe you have stumbled upon the remains of a cement mill, the "Bridge pillars" are horizontal rotary kiln supports, and the tunnels are for chain drags, a type of material conveyor
Looking at the plants in the Hudson Valley I can see your point. The Ravena plant even has dual rotary kilns. But I don't see any indication of cross tunnels between the piers. And is there any indication of actual mining in the area? The Hudson River plants are all open pit... only the very old ones were underground. Also kilns usually have rather large buildings at both ends which there's no indication of. But they may have been demolished or never built. Just seems weird.
my dear Watson, i believe you have found another bunker... on another note, everyone needs to crowdsource you a lidar drone, you can see far more, outlines hidden places ect.... this knowledge is invaluable, due to the way the world is
Poland is completely lidar scanned, the data publicly accessible in quite good resolution via the polish geoportal. Of course scanning with a drone would give much more details.
This post-war facility has nothing to do with the "Riese" project !. A slate roasting plant was to be built here, construction work began in 1974. 70 industrial facilities of various sizes, a railway line, a water tank, two fuel tanks and two 150-meter furnaces for burning loot were to be built here. These are the concrete bases seen in the video.
The amazing thing about this over one billion investment was that already during the implementation it was known that the roasting plant would not be profitable. One ton of the finished product was to cost PLN 30,000 in Dzikowiec, and the same product imported from Great Britain cost only PLN 12,000! It also turned out that the area suffers from shortages of water needed for the industrial production of slate. It also turned out that the mines in Nowa Ruda and Słupiec would not supply the right amount of slate of the right quality. In 1981, work was 72% advanced. Both rotary kilns fueled with mazut have already been installed on the supports. A 3.6 ha water tank, chimneys, warehouses and canals have been built. In 1983, a decision was made to suspend the works. In the same year, disassembly of the factory's facilities and equipment was started
Cool, good to know and still an urbex dream. Questions, would the kilns need to be that high? And why did the local officials tell Tino it was a silk manufacturing plant? Thats a bit of a jump from slate to silk. The plans must still exist somewhere and some photos must also be available to confirm whatever it was. I'm all for things being mundane, but mundane means plans, permission, technical details and any other documentation for a civil project must be available. They don't get thrown away unless something is not what it seems.
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I don't know what officials Tino was talking to? . Tino doesn't know the Polish language and here you had to ask older people who have been living there for years. I'm from Poland and for many years I've been interested in the history of World War II, including the complex ''Riese''. During an investigation, sometimes you have to ask a lot of people and read a lot of documents, not just film the place itself. Tino should know this as a person dealing with the history of the Second World War.
He does not speak the language. Still, an official from the area should know. I am quite happy to believe its not WW2, but would like to see drawings or photos anyway. Poland amazes me, its gone through a lot during WW2, after WW2 and still is today.
There are also records on the Internet about the factory in Dzikowiec, you have to enter the words " Prażalnia Łupków Ogniotrwałych w Dzikowcu." in Polish and use a translator. There is even an official government document from 1986 on abandoned investments. "RESOLUTION No. 108 OF THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS - of July 16, 1986. In Polish "UCHWAŁA Nr 108 RADY MINISTRÓW - z dnia 16 lipca 1986 r. " under number 16 there is a record about the complete liquidation of the factory in Dzikowiec . You also need to know that in Dzikowiec there was an old German slate roasting plant . A new slate roasting plant was to be built nearby but construction was never completed. Currently, the factory area is divided into smaller building plots and is intended for sale.
@@kumagatz A simple answer to your question "why did the local officials tell Tino it was a silk manufacturing plant?" is that they were having a joke at his expense to lighten a boring day, I mean can you think of anything more juxtapose than cement and silk! 😆
August 11 can't get here soon enough for me your podcasts are always entertaining and a lesson in history.
If it wasn't for my occasional day job there would be a lot more stuff coming out faster
Tino, just a few thoughts. I didnt see any security fencing or reminents of defensive positions. With that much electricity and power running to the complex and the linear construction of the buildings, perhaps this was an early attempt by the Germans and then later taken over by the Russians to create a particle accelerator to further research fission and splitting the atom? There seems to be a large underground complex that needs further exploration. The site would benefit from a Lidar Scan overhead from a plane. This can be done and would allow you to penetrate the foliage and decay to reveal patterns and building infrastructure that you cant see from the ground. Someone needs to invent a Lidar system for a drone. Just some thoughts to add to the discussion. I am wondering the reason we cant seem to make out what exactly is going on there is due to German and then Russian reconstruction of the area so with two building methods it makes it difficult to ascertain what was the original intent of the location.
Poland is completely lidar scanned, the data publicly accessible in quite good resolution via the polish geoportal. Lidar scanners for drones don't need to be invented, they exist and are available commercially (but cost several thousands). Of course scanning with a drone would give much more details.
@@DerTadel Thanks for the info. I had no idea Poland had been completely lidared? Where can you find this data?
Intriguing Tino,I hope you discover the true purpose of this amazing place.Thank you for bringing this to us
Looks like classical coal bunkers and conveyor belt shafts, the two parallel walls look like the runway for a coal loader scraper, with the coal storage area between them. Perhaps a coal powerplant, cement plant with a rotary pipe oven or another industrial facility (chemical, fuel, explosives, ...).
There's already a power plant nearby. Chemical, cement, explosives plant seem to be top guesses. Someone mentioned some of it looking like a nylon plant their dad had worked at which kinda fits with the silk thing other than that crazy "bridge pillar" thing
Yeah, my first thoughts were about coal loading/storage taking place here.
Could also be an agrigate or uranium plant.
@@AmerikinJackass No, doesn't make any sence. Do to the Diabas quarry nearby and the very long lasting history in coal mining in the nearest area, the cement plant is my best guess.
The introduction in the beginning is already great, thanks for the picture of the Cool Tank, it soothed my nerves :)
Thanks
Thank you brother I appreciate it truly
Ironically this could even be a popcorn factory and yet its remoteness and eerie solitude convey an impression more sinister than our questioning senses perceive. Comparatively easy to do anything on The Henge and get clicks and yet this tour was far more compelling due to it's uncluttered objectivity and openness. You are a fantastic historian, researcher and communicator. In a different world you would be a mainstream celebrity. But surely there's far more cudos and honour in cult status, if not the rewards of mamon. No ?
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That long, short wall looks very much like early Mag-Lev train track. Like a monorail, but 'enhanced' with electromagnets. There are visible iron rebars within the wall, and the plastic pipes could be remains of post-war research. Excellent video as always, thank you Tino!
"Silk factory"? ROFL!! They must have been desperate to come up with that explanation!
I love it when you find something new and mysterious, especially when its bang in the middle of Kammlerville :)
Everything points to a flooded underground here, especially those sloping ramp structures.
The first bit you showed with the ramped chutes, i could imagine rail carriages filled with coal pulling up and tipping coal into the silos for use in some underground facility.
I'd love to see a LIDAR scan of that area!
The mysterious "not bridge pillars" have the same look about them as the henge structure, as if they were designed at the same time and intrinsic to the purpose. Really intriguing stuff!
Shadowman Ghosty @25:12 . On top of concrete structure! 😯
At 38:53 he mentions he's exploring with a buddy
That mismatched jigsaw puzzle of buildings got me wondering to.Never seen builds like that before but had to be multi purpose what ever it was used for.Great Video once again you got me thinking on this.
26:24 Ceiling mounted cranes for loading or unloading?
31:40 These are counter weights for use in scales, balances or perhaps some sort of mechanism for moving items in an automated process.
42:16 High Voltages...
42:50 Styrofoam was used as insulation for industrial processes or as insulation for buildings.
Do radiological survey (Geiger)? Metal detecting and mapping any 'hits'? Go ask the business people at the building you saw and ask them what they think it was used for, someone will know something and may give considerable info.
My guess is Aluminum production.
Hello and thank you for your great work!
This is a really strange place! As an "old" German, history-loving... nutcase, I have never seen such a facility!? What I think is possible is a production line - perhaps two parallel ones for heavy battle tanks or something similar - as it seems sensible to build the necessary assembly cranes out of concrete (the "bridge piers with electrics... perhaps). And it was possibly planned - once the production line is installed - to build a submarine bunker-like structure out of meter-thick concrete as a "shell" around everything!?
The "electrical panel" looks very much like the cover to a control panel for a bank of ventilation fans. On/off switch for power to the box, push buttons to start/stop/high/ low speed etc. Fits with the ventilation grates. We use a similar set up to provide ventilation on a ship. So any enclosed space needing large volumes of air moved would use the same.
I think all those round wells are sumps for pumping ground water to keep a large underground system dry. The maintenance support buildings could be generators to supply power for the pumps as well as for the bunkers. There must be archived photos in the local library? The cement towers I believe were supports for large bins. The bins would be filled continiously by conveors. Rail cars would be backed or pulled through the towers to be loaded very quickly with material. I belive you found an underground factory that has been flooded.
Good thinking.
Being from coal mining town in West Virginia it an loading and processing tiple , Not sure what type,but similar. Great videos Tino.
The Title caught my attention ! The first one was a great classic sci-fi film. As to the photo, maybe electrical generator, grid or transformer ???
Hi Tino. With the greatest respect: the key to your mystery instalation is the configuration on top of each tower. Those are locking shoes with two square metal plates at the front for electro-magnetic clamping. You can see the curved surface in the slabs in-close behind these plates for a "backing in and locking" maneuver from an airborne object. The first Nazi space-fairing mother ships (not atmospheric Hanabue saucers ) were converted Type XXl submarines. Watertight is also airtight for lunar transit. Measure the distance between the first and last large tower and I am sure such a U-boat would be nicely supported on top...in pairs right and left. They are docking towers for an aerial U-boat pen with holes for cables and pipes to refuel/provision from beneath. The “skirts” are to protect people on the ground from some kind of blast from the anti-gravity drive during liftoff, and the small towers must have been docks for “mini-subs”. Obviously never finished (moved to New Berlin in Antarctica?) since you can see the metal speed-forms still in place on the walls of a couple of support pits. Recall that Ferdinand Schorner's entire army was diverted from the Battle of Seelow Heights to protect this area instead of Berlin. Tim
Very strange indeed, too much strange, strange the shape of the buildings etc., strange the layout of building etc.. I think that could be some sort of proving ground or experimental station. Another problem is the date of construction.
Maybe the 'crane mounts' are tower foundations? given the isolation but proximity to other sites . . . would it be possible for this to have been LF/VLF/ELF communications? that may well account for some of the power requirements
The birds singing was so joyfull.thankz
There is also an VW Thing Tino.
Boy were them thing ugly to me as s kid in the 70s.
I have a "thing" about VWs too ;)
Looks like a concrete production plant with those hoppers. Possibly with conveyor belts. Also the large structures look like they could pre cast tunnel sections which were loaded onto trains. Just a guess
The supports for a rotary kiln can be arch shaped, are heavily built, and get shorter as you progress from one end to the other.
Just going by the visuals... I think you've found a synthetic fuel research / production facility. I can't see the "bridges" as anything other than bases for elevated storage tanks. The "monorail" is almost certainly footings for a pipeline.
Could we get general GPS coordinates for your videos?
Yeah I second that. I want to Google earth the location also.
Looks like the layout for a brutalist, 1960s University campus
Hi Tino, the wall about 1m high adjacent to the railroad tracks could be a barrier to water if the site was actively flooded, e.g. in case of fire or for protection. Such a protective function had e.g. also the airfield of the Junkers aircraft works in Dessau. Thus, a device of intentional flooding of areas is known.
Looks like a site for testning different construction techniques in concrete, testing cement mixtures, perhaps in combination with education, problably from 1950”s
The first buildings were for side tipping rail cars, but how they have set it up is a bit baffling, as the cars would tip but then they made it a bit Awkard to then get at whatever was tipped out, so I am guessing we are missing a key component of those buildings that is long gone.
The area with the low parrel walls it wouldn't be a filled in overgrown water storage (talking man made shallow lake), they obviously needed a heck of a lot of water.
Didn't they use hydrogen peroxide? Is this a small chemical plant? Yeah could be explosives but the set up is strangely way over engineered for that, but doesn't so much for hydrogen peroxide.
Either way I am seeing a small chemical plant of some sort.
Another commenter recognized very similar conveyor sections to a nylon plant that was near them. Would explain the silk story. The "Bridge" parts don't seem to fit that though, maybe another chemical process. Perhaps a train geek could figure out what kind of car was unloaded in such a way and narrow down what they were moving.
EXACTLY my thoughts about the side-tip railcars! I wonder if they tipped to an exit underground though?
Looks like a mining operation for limestone and maybe gravel. Have a look at the lake next to this structures.
Limestone is used to make steel. I would guess steel wire rope and cable. Think how big a cable car cable wheel/reel is, the wheel/reel size and how they twist the rope? The biggest structure at the end with the holes in the top would be the last and the steel rope/cable would go through onto a big reel. The big area with the track next to it would be to wind the cable into thicker cable (google 9/16 rope for how wire is made) and the pit/ramp is likely the galvanizing area, this can be hot dipped or electrically done. Thats my guess. I think silk production got lost in translation.
at 40+ min talk about generators on rails, but nowadays power transformers are still placed on rails in part surrounded by a building of which one side has no wall, I wouldn't be surprised that this is an equivalent setup. greetigs from the Netherlands ;)
Tino needs to get a tethered, and an untethered underwater drone to investigate such water-filled structures. Although I agree with Mr. Wolf, it does look very reminiscent of Cement production facilities.
Are there any limestone quarries, or other components of cement in the area?
Parts of the large underground steps that if you look at that has steps leading down with the ramp in the middle. The sides have they been made from marble, or faced in marble? It really does look like it’s partially done in it in, and other places within the site. It starts 18:13 Tino. That if you look carefully it looks like the vein is fund purposeful in the same direction other places. It’s just a observation I seen which you get in slabs of marble or granite. As both are hard wearing needing a lot of pressure to break. It looked very high tech building for what purpose I hope someone will have a answer too?
I have a hypothesis.. It was an air field. The arches or the supposed bridge parts are a place where trains would bring newly assembled fighter planes under camouflage netting between the pilars. The smaller "bridge" parts are for the end part of the train where the cargo carriages were so there was enough space to unload the planes. All tracks have long since been removed for scrap. The brick buildings held a series of generators to power the whole field. Technical buildings for Electric distributions, fueling and water for the locomotives. So basically just maintainance for both the fighter planes and the trains that brought them there..
good thoughts/suggestions Frank, but i still wonder why those arches were all designed differently and with differing shapes and sizes if all they were is supports or archways? And why all the anchors and open tubes in the roof sections? Why not just build rows of identical arches? They seem to have served a technical purpose, especially with the tech. tunnels connecting them.
You might be onto something about camouflage netting between the platforms though, as I wondered about there being some sort of cover draped over them.
Concrete mixing complex..for all the tunnels in the area
There is a row of silver birch trees around our local church, built 1967 if you take the size of them and compare them to these ones I'd say these are about 30 years old, which would be perfect for the end of the cold war 1989-90.
The round things that look like mines are scale weights for a platform scale, i believe . Albeit much larger but if you're dealing with materials like say aggregates or cement they would be large
IT is a storm piling area, probably for coal power station
Tino, I think you should go explore the Lone Star Army Ammunition Plant ruins for comparison.
41:53 are high voltage electrical insulators. Maybe 31:31 also, but don't seem likely.
Interesting site Tino. Difficult to figure out what it was used for when comparing to modern facilities. The best I can think of is some type of refinery.
They did use something like silk to build fiberglass aerospace components.
When it comes to pre WW II / WW II Germany, EVERYthing is natherious !...and I want it to be !!!! Yet, There were still civilian industerial concerns amoung all the secret research. I love these vids...I love what Tino is doing and I love spending my time here ! Germany still protected it's civilian NON MILITARY sites if they were vital to the war. I have NO CLUE what is here and why, But that makes my mind wander all the more. Thanx Tino for another intreaguing (spelling), informative and enjoyable presentation !
Wonder if it had a roof over all of it for camo would look rolling like ground from air with different hight pillars?
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Great video just read through all comments have to agree with a few that the first part is for railway tipper carts but the site looks like it is a wet site that is regularly flooded and the land has been levelled so that shallow lakes and pools can be raised and drained the towers for carrying mono rail lifting equipment over water.
I would say the construction is Russian eastern block
If we are talking Cold War
Both Soviet Union and allies broke the rules and continued manufacturing CBW
then the manufacturing of silk would make a plausible cover story
Think you need to get that wooden paddle stirrer tested
Bill
Surely the allies had aerial reconnaissance and reports of area, probably find the information in the archives.
I have to think that the structures that would be a dead giveaway as to what the area you documented was a part of are long gone, but I 'm thinking that the majority of the area that you've documented in this video is relating to underground high voltage power generation and transmission. There appear to be many chaseways through concrete walls/floors/ceilings for wiring and airflow, two massive buildings for ventilation fans, and underground tunnels with unrestricted airflow and mounts for very heavy cables. I expect that there's also a lot more to see or since destroyed tunnels to support this theory. Also note those two brick-core buildings, they may have been from an earlier time and repurposed, but there are also other reasons for omitting ferrous materials from a buildings construction, such as magnetic fields.
Some thoughts. From my experiences of exploring former rail formations in the UK, the size of trees and other growth strongly suggests this site was in use until the 1980s or even later, so there should be some local knowledge of its more recent history. The dimensions and proportions of the linear features strongly suggest railway infrastructure and the presence of ballast stone supports this. The "paddle" looks like part of a brake stick for railway wagons although I don't know if continental railways used such things. It looks as if some sort of bulk material was being delivered by rail and dumped into something underground which is very odd. It can't be for concealment as there is so much above ground infrastructure or to keep it dry as a building would be easier and cheaper. Could the towers be part of an uncompleted launch ramp for something? Maybe using electrical rail gun type technology. What alignment do they follow, if they happened to be aligned on London or New York that might be a clue. You have suggested that some of the nearby wartime activity was linked to nuclear weapons which lacked a delivery mechanism, could this be it? By the way if you find any intact electrical insulators the rule of thumb is to have one "bump" per 10 kV so if you have a complete one you can tell the approximate voltage it was designed to carry.
The young growth trees and newer style re-bar indicate that this site hasn't been abandoned for a very long period.
Those hoppers could be to dump rail cars… and conveyor belts underneath to transfer the product?
Did you see the shadow person at 33mins in . Shows up twice
Also at 16:33-36. I was thinking maybe a guide was with him but you cant see anyone else ever
The Metall plate with the big switch at 49:50 These are really huge old fuses!
what if the 'bridge pillars' would be connected up with pre-stressed concrete slabs? that would explain the lip on their tops and would leave one very big space underneath. maybe curve the sides down from the 'pillars', make it look like a hilltop, and you have an aircraft production facility.
I have no idea what this was but the area with steel stanchions appears to have been a Gantry crane very interesting place great video thanks Tino let's try find out what this was
Looks like a process plant with underground conveyor tunnels. The tall sections seem similar to the abandoned German cement woks on the coast of France. As you say there is a lot of German works in the area.
Yes - it seems (at least for me) that the layout of these things does match the typical layout of a cement factory with two parallel horizontal sloping kilns sitting on those giant pillars. Google: "cement factory layout", "cement factory aerial"
amazing 😊
The first but were a marshalling yrd for rail carts. Then you walked thru 2 tip siloes where carts dumps masses frome huge railwaycars that has hatches underneath. Look at old coal carts and you see similar constructions.
My best bet is coal or limestone beeing dumped in those siloes..
The long foundations are most likely the outer support walls for an major factory that did not needed heating internally and only needed light walls.
As i interpret it it whould be eighter a coal processing plant or a limestone processing plant.
You build bridges to cross over things. What would they be trying to cross over here?
You could use Dendrochronology on a few of the trees, and bizarrely you could do it on some of the concrete judging by the linger prints left by the wood.
I think I can help you out. Those stones ARE likely to be railway ballast. Those bin- like things are a facility for cleaning out steam locomotive fireboxes. Poland used steam locomotives up into the 1980s.. Most of the stuff you showed us looks like a locomotive facility. Anything I don't recognize may be simply because I'm an American.
You prob know the nazis relied on steam locomotives having lots of coal & little oil. In the former Yugoslavia there is a region where they still use the 1930s (WW2) standard issue German steam locomotives, from memory they had ~8, 4 running, 4 for parts.
This reminds me of something from some old photos my grandfather had that had he was from Poland and there was pillers like them in the pictures with like radar things on and a long duga sort of thing down one side don't know if this is the place but I remember the photos well
@Lost Battlefields w Timo Von Struckman,
Have you considered as it’s Poland; that it could be Warsaw Pact area, the Russian would use trains to brig closer to Europe battlefield nukes.
Storing them underground as you suggested and the circular pits could be water reservoirs for the trains either steam or it could be for cooling
The 3
Sided ramp with steps could be below ground missile storage?
The Iranians currently do it!
Out of site of satellites
It could also be as it’s Poland, an old USSR radio long distance listening station with the technical building for the radio decoding intelligence cell
Great video
And yes I’m veteran military like you
Food for thought.
Jonathan
I think it is a cement plant. The two rows of piers are supports for a rotary kiln.
This is also my opinion. Typical layout of a cement plant.
I noticed around many of the structures that the foliage was light, and plenty of young trees were dead. That could mean anything though.
it looks like the skeleton of a power station
Maybe those long cement things were footings for a very large building and those columns would have been support columns with an overhead crain that would run back and forth.
thanks you make us think, there are many hidden things around us
Looks like mounts for two parallel rotary kilns
I would grab that paddle and have it tested to find out what chemicals it has been in contact with . My guess is a missle testing and development area . The large towers for assembly and testing large solid propellant missles , the holes through them for winch lifting cables . The single rail could have been used for testing smaller rockets . The building with 2 pits could have been used for mixing solid rocket propellant . And underground is where you would want to be if one blew up during testing
Steel rope manufacturing would be my guess. The ramp pits would likely be for galvanising. All the steel foundations around would be for big wheels pulling it along.
The pilers were likely the twisting part and then fed down the last big pilar and put on big reels. I guess the big flat area near the rails was for bigger stee rope production as they would have to twist multiple lengths together and lay it out. It would be very heavy before they would be cut to length and why there are track and crane foundations.
You would need a lot of power to move the cable/rope and twist it. Looks to be two production lines with those towers which are matching. The tunnels under would be for power cables as each would have a motor on top like a wheel you would see at a coal mine
All a guess though.
So far, yours, to me, is the most plausible explanation.
An UFO base for the flying Hamburger train ?? ;-)
Reminds me of a possible massive power station with all the ceramic isolators strewn about......power generation and storage, but for what ?
Looking at the remaining impressions in the concrete from construction it is evident that (plywood?) rather than the more traditional wood plant forms during ww2 were used. Your assumption that this was for post war industrial purposes is strong.
If those trees are silver birch, then they are very quick growing. They can grow to 25 meters in 20 years. Look like they have been cut down and have regrown in places too! So could be older?
Gonna be a good day!
rocket test track those short walls could be for a high speed sled
Be interesting to find overhead photos taken during the war .
Imagine Timo it’s a rocket ICBM USSR test facility early 50-60’s and as you said 2x control bunkers. They would put them the far end away from any test rig in case of a failed test/ rocket failure
Large end one end, small end the other; that’s Venturi effect
If it’s electrical; then it’s USSR EARLY warning radar array like Siberia and Sakhalin island
Jonathan
The site is near a small village called Dzikowiec. I visited the site in the summer of 2022. It's a big site and it's part WW2 (90%) and USSR (10%) era. The weird thing is that railway rails are gone. Only the ballast beds are still there.
Also the infrastructure of the place looks not as developed as other similar factory sites. If you compare it to other similar size factories then this place doesn't look like it ever was in use.
On the other hand, there is an old limestone quarry arround the corner. It could be possible that they tried to make synthetic fuel out of the limestone. Maybe that's one of the most feaseble possibilities. We know that the Germans where way ahead with making synthetic fuels. Look at the site they build near Police in Poland. That's a way bigger factory and a very impressive site that was in use during WW2.
Lime stone can be used to make pig iron, then into steel. I would guess it was a steel rope/cable production facility. I guess there would be a small foundry nearby.
@@gregmark319 That's also possible. They made or wanted to made something out of lime stone.
How about this beeing a Tesburn-Side for certain Types of Engine's(V2 perhaps?)?
I know what this is ,the things were for concrete unloading. I was just looking at model railway structures made by PIKO and a concrete unloading platform where the concrete wagons would run up a ramp over hopper wagons and unload. All of this thing wad a massive concrete/gravel facility.
Properly had conversations best taking the materials away to the production plant
Those ramps again look like converter belt system,
that would make a great long range shooting range!!
The round things in the "bridge pillar" tech tunnels look like weights for a scale we used in the 1970s to weigh grain trucks. Whatever the tall pillars are i think it was built to measure something. But i am a loss as to what. Way too much tech buildings and heavy lifting platforms laying around. The long short walls may be a mixing bed for a road grader. When i was a kid the local state of Missouri road maintenance guys would mix asphalt for the road outside with a grader and load it onti dump trucks to build roads.
Hello Tino maybe its an early radar station . In the cold war era they testing a lot befor they make the DUGA radar in Kiev Ukraine .
Looks like a cement / precast factory
Tino, I'm disappointed that your interview with Michael Shrimpton is not available for viewing. I watched it, it was a good interview. I would imagine Joseph shares a lot of Michaels opinions, with him being a R.Orthodox Christian. Please repost the interview. Even if you don't agree with it. With all due respect. John
tippler for emptying rail wagons and a conveyer system
I wonder if it's a test area for engines and Rockets
I think it's Post WW2. I would to love have Geiger Counter readings take in area. The tree growth is too young to be WW2 era.
Concrete plant?
So in looking at the construction, they used panels to mold the walls. Nothing built by the Germans that you have shown uses panels, just boards. It's therefore post war. The rebar sticking out says to me that it's either not finished or built in a hurry or both. All kinds of interesting buildings. Very close to the castle, and the test site of German nuke tests. Thoughts: what if the Russians found plans for a German rocket launch facility and wanted to see the infrastructure for real, never finished it just because, and then left. Ask the Pentagon, they can probably tell you.
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