gotta have to thank Mr. Yum Yum for his performance, he really drove the point home how religion poisons everything and makes you an irrational hateful human being
Best call ever with the 7 day cycle numb nuts. Gutsick and Forrest COMPLETELY destroyed his script by teaching him like a high school student. Then he cried and cursed like a spoiled baby 👶 🤧 😪 😭
not really a problem either. People have the right to remain stupid or ignorant if they so chose. I dont understand it but sure....stay dumb if you want. I dont really feel like such people should have adult rights and influence tho because they just gonna push they disinformed asses onto others and ruin it for many in the process
@@markallen8022 people have already pointed that out to him. He insists that the names of the days of the week may have different names around the world, but the fact that everyone in the world has seven day weeks is proof that everyone is under the god of the bibles rule.
He doesn't bring anything to the convo but his own incredulity and it's begining to show. He tries to reword his old canards but he's running out of material.
doesn't understand evolution and believes magical daddy "created" humans with MAGIC! two for one. also called himself a skeptic. three for one sale right there if you're into bs.
He seems to have borrowed Kent Hovind's claim that the Bible talks about animals reproducing after their kind, which is not correct- the Bible refers to the fact that there are different kinds of animals, plants, etc.
3:39 Loch (he/him) | Caller wants to talk about the game "Ancestors: the humankind odyssey." 12:26 Caroline (she/her) | Are zoos harmful or helpful? 51:53 Mr. Yum Yum (he/him) | Caller thinks that evolution is "totally ridiculous." 1:27:50 John (he/him) | "Do we have any clues of an evolving sense of morality among certain species in the fossil record?" 2:00:08 Robert (he/him) | Caller wants to talk about speciation. 2:27:16 Superchats.
the caller around 00:57:00: "I am a skeptic." And he believes that there was a talking donkey in the Middle-East. He also believes that Prometheus does NOT grow a new liver each day. That would be magic, you know.
I'm not usually in favor of banning because of ineptitude, but Mr. Yum Yum is too underequipped to even have an adult conversation. His only schtick is unearned arrogance and pretension.
It’s either trolling, willful ignorance, or a genuine cognitive deficit that he has no control over. Whatever the case, it’s no longer entertaining. And the derogatory language is not cool.
I think he was a troll or not real. He was trying to goad them from the beginning. I haven't finished the call yet because I had to take a break from him but when talked about "knowing that he is talking to a woman" i felt like he knew they are pro trans and was trying to just start fights. I really wish Matt was on at times like that.
@@TheNomad94 There are 7 heavenly moving objects visible to the naked eye, sun, moon, and five planets. Pagans attributed a major god to each. Each of our days in the week is named after one of these pagan deities, most of them from Norse mythology. NOT one given a biblical name. PS - the months are mostly named after Roman gods (Janus), two emperors (Julius and Augustus Caesar), or a number in Latin. Again not biblical.
Yumyum has actually been excited by an argument made by a Muslim in a recent debate against Dillahunty : Beavers know how to make dams without being taught, as knowledge is learnt, the omni teacher in the sky must have taught them secretly. (thus the use of the word information instead of the word behaviour)
I absolutely love Gutsick Gibbon! She's so intelligent and articulate. I learn a lot from her and Forrest. Also, I'm in absolute stitches over the Big Foot argument.
Did anyone *not* recognize Yum Yum's voice to be 7 day guy in like 2.2 seconds?! I'd call him the waste of time he is, but I love listening to Erika & Forrest talk about evolution!
Firstly, let's show appreciation to the callers, wonderful slapstick entertainment and secondly, to our wonderful and insightful hosts for the free informative lecture.
Yumyum has been excited by an argument made by a Muslim in a recent debate against Dillahunty : Beavers know how to make dams without being taught, as knowledge is learnt, the omni teacher in the sky must have taught them secretly. (thus the use of the word information instead of the word behaviour)
He was getting so aggressive, too. The hosts were so patient and calm, and letting him speak over them, and he was so heated. He called in already all strung up.
Expanding on my superchat to part of Yum's call, 2, 4, 6, 8 isn't enough to conclude that 10 is the next number. This is only true if f(n) = the positive even numbers. It turns out, if f(1) = 2 and f(n) = the nth prime + 1, for n > 1, this will produce f(5) = 12 and f(6) = 14. Also, if n starts at 0 and f(4) is indeed 12, then the following polynomial can be obtained using Newton's Finite Difference method: f(n) = [2n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)] / 24 + 2n + 2 and f(5) = 22 as predicted by this polynomial. The Finite Difference method can go on the create an infinite amount of sequences that start with 2, 4, 6, 8.
Yes, it is. If you had to choose just one of those two, without being able to ask questions, knowing someone came up with this question, would you actually answer 12 instead of 10?
@@issecret1 Being a bit of the math nerd I am, I had to point out that there is this possibility. Not remembering who this was in response to (mostly because I'm being lazy right now and don't want to look through the video again) and knowing that there are smart alecks out there that might pull this trick, I'm also covering all my bases.
The seven day cycle can be easily made moot by pointing to the Periodic table. A mortal man made something, that the entire universe abides to - when Mendeleev came up with the table, they knew about how many elements - half of what we have now. And it's all neatly ordered.
Wow. If someone would have told me "You get to see Forrest and Erika argue about bigfoot in this episode," I still would have never guessed that the argument was WITH EACH OTHER...
Forrest and Erika are like the dynamic duo of youtube science. Pure awesomeness. People who really know about what they talk about and they love to teach and share knowledge. And by the way, Erika is beautifullllll!!!!!!!
I am a very philosophically and metaphysically minded person but these two helped me deconstruct so quickly. Absolutley love their content and expertise.
funny how theists see evolution.....just about to watch this part but from the comments, he does not believe in evolution......i saw a show on the history channel last week where they got together about 6 or 7 religious people who believed in evolution......they were trying to fit their god into evolution....the one part which i found crazy was they came to the conclusion god intervened in evolution when chromosome 2 was fused..........i only caught it halfway through but wonder what their explanation for dinosaurs was
Through ignorance he thought he was like a boxer playing rope-a-dope, ready to lay down his gochas, when in reality this boxer was comatose in the back of an ambulance on the way to A&E dreaming he was still in the fight.
He'll just disappear in time also, just like gman. The guy considers himself some kind of braniac like gman when time upon time he gets the door in his face. Rational reasoning right out of the window. He just showed how educated he really isn't in this conversation, really sad.
I am so happy to hear someone like Forest bring up that food allergies are a part of the equations when considering going vegan/vegetarian. My family strugles with severe food allergies for nuts, peanuts, eggs, many types of fruit and a high occurance of soy allergy. Even sligthly altering our diets to include less animal product is a massive undertaking for folks like us.
my favorite two debaters, both very kind and super knowledgeable. I'm far more likely to recommend you both to any creationists for your content than Mat or Aron (i love them both but working hospitality for so many years I can relate to their short temper). Keep up the good work you sexy beasts
I cannot abide the short tempers. Only one time, when I was occupied and Mr Dillahunty came on accidently, did I hear him be kind. A theist woman whose beloved relative had died called to ask if he thought she could speak with their spirit. She was in pain and he gently got her to realize that it wasn't possible, but she could embrace all her memories for comfort. Wow! He had turned over a new leaf, so I tuned in again only to find him snarling at a caller again. No more.
1:14:17 I love that you muted him and changed his name to Dunning-Kruger. In the future, when he inevitably calls back, COMT would be a great response to his “instinct” questions. It is know as the “worrier or warrior” gene, because alterations in the gene lead to a phenotype of either being more aggressive or more prone to anxiety. Pretty sure those qualify as “information” with behaviors.
Edit: I also should add that “instincts” and “behavior” can also be greatly influenced by structure. Look at Michael Phelps, as an example. I’ve met him in person and, holy shit, his arms are looooong. He’s “built” to swim; but if you were to throw him on a cross country race, he’s not gonna do well. Then you have those like the Mountain, who may have higher testosterone or less myostatin, or any other number of factors, but even if he were to train for a marathon in his youth, his body is still going to be more geared towards high weights. So it’s not that they were “created” for those activities, but with the equipment they randomly developed, they leaned towards activities they were innately better at. Hormone balance, muscle fiber type ratio, bone density, COMT…all of these are hereditary factors that influence your ability to do stuff, which in turn influences your behavior.
My two favorite scientists! Thanks for all that you both do! I would like to call in sometime soon to discuss my recent deconstruction/deconversion from a fundamental YEC with an 8th grade education to now working on my psychology degree. My intro Biology class blew my mind and piqued my curiosity, I began researching and haven’t stopped since that class in the fall of 2020. Anyway, thanks for all you guys work!
"I know absolutely nothing about the topic, the basics that you are talking about is brand new to me. Also, it contradicts my book, so it must be wrong." How do you even know it contradicts your book if you don't know anything about it
My main problems with clover is that. Not everyone likes it, it spreads fast and it's pain in the ass to remove. Large part of my job is to remove "weeds" in a nearby city, so I'm contractually obligated to say this. Hell yeah we should go use clover instead.
Mr Yum Yum: “I’ve not got a clue about evolution, genetics, biology, or any other associated field of science… but evolution laughable and isn’t true”.
He also said "i want a scientific citation for your claim about instincts and genetics, just ignore my claim the bible is infallible despite scientific research"
3 hours in, and these two wonderful science educators just had an active, extended argument about which ancient ape Bigfoot would be descended from. I love this channel. XD
46:00 Go Erica! Got Milkweed? I've been butterfly gardening since the mid '80s. Grass is dumb, except some of the native prairie grasses like Bluestem and others which support both birds and butterflies. My gardens are all wildflowers and some dumb lawn only because I live in a condo setting. Got lots of Milkweed for the Monarch butterflies.
These might be my new favorite hosts, although I like everyone! They have the patient of saints. And the game was super fun!! I’d watch a whole stream of just that!
I don’t usually comment on anything, it has to be the most enjoyable 6 hour video I have listened too. You all 3 are very educational and a blast to listen too, I hope to meet you guys one day and just talk. Thank you for being amazing. And F-U-Jimmy. ❤️
I think it's great they've reduced meat consumption! Being vegan isn't feasible or practical for a lot of people, but not eating meat even once a week will still have an impact! All the vegans/vegetarians I know in person say that too. I think it's mainly the extremists on the internet that think everyone needs to be completely vegan no matter what, and they are loud unfortunately.
I've seen faucets move on their own before. Faucets are valves and valves are kept shut by friction. Depending on the type of valve differential pressure across the valve can actually cause the valve to open on its own if the coefficient of friction is low which for some valves, especially older ones, can happen.
Forrest? Erika? Must confess I love you both... you are SO passionate about what you talk. I think people like us kept their childlike curiousity alive. 🥰
I’m not sure why we aren’t mentioning a name, as the person in question posted it to their TH-cam channel, but I have the utmost respect for the “no longer vegan” individual and thought these two (and Jimmy) handled it perfectly. Well done everyone.
Love love love-ity love love these two! I super look forward to Erika/Forrest podcasts as The Line stacks up patreons. I wouldn't mind seeing these two get their own biology-themed The Line show. The overall humanist tie-in seems straightforward to me, and I've even got some title suggestions for ya Jimmy: Life on The Line (or even just Life Line) Life, Live Real-Time Evolution Bio-Line (okay weak I know) I can dream, right?
At age 32, I have learned for the literal first time right this very second, that the reason Isaac Newton invented Integral and Differential calculus was to find mathematics to explain the orbits of the planets, which is so incredibly coo!! IF LITERALLY ANYONE BEFORE NOW had explained that to me I would have 1000% more interested in calculus!
I love when Robert calls! I believe he's called ACA shows before too. He's hyper logical and very well informed. He's also so freaking nice I can see him up against apologists and them getting freaking frustrated that they can't break his calm and make him mad! He's a great human being and ultra well grounded, and we need more Atheists like him! Put me up against a creationist, and I will try my best to rip them to shreds, Robert sounds more like he will go out of his way to straighten them out with knowledge and understanding, and take as much time as needed to get them to listen. I wonder how he takes to them being disingenuous ass wipes while he is so accommodating? Where is his breaking point? We may never know! If you are reading this Robert: You Rock! And you can call me bob, Robert is just the official version. I'm not an official!🤪
OK, now I've watched the whole thing. :) Regarding the issue of theists/creationists not calling in: I've been watching call-in shows for a looooooong time now, and y'all are correct that these people don't call in because 1) They don't like direct interpersonal confrontation -- most people don't, after all -- and would rather spew their nonsense in chat or comments and 2) They do not want to know the truth and do not care if their beliefs are false. They want to make believe. I'd estimate that 96% of those who do call in just want to preach, and they will never have an honest conversation because they CAN'T do so. So, while it can be fun to listen to such people flounder and be ridiculous, it honestly gets boring after a while because it's the same "arguments," all the time, and usually from the same small batch of people. On a very rare occasion you'll get a new and actually honest theist/creationist caller, but they are few and very far between. I know that The Line's "thing" is call-in shows but, frankly, I think the call-in aspect is much less valuable than the educational aspect of the show, equipping atheists/skeptics with better arguments and information to use when interacting with other people. IMO, that educational value is derived more from the questions that come in via superchats and the discussion between the hosts that they generate than from the calls. I certainly enjoy the superchat part more. I dunno, maybe that's an unpopular opinion, but it's the one I have.
I love how Forrest mentions Sapolsky on each and every show. He's not only a great scientist but also an amazing person. Each time he mentions his name, I always remember his book "A Primate's Memoir". If you love Sapolsky as much as I and Forrest do, and haven't read that book yet, please do.
I think, in spite of the stark reality that these creatures in Sea World are generally suffering, probably quite a lot, that the main benefit is that such organizations teach people, particularly children, to care about animals and sea life that they otherwise would never see and never acquire any empathy for. It's a rough trade off.
you can practically hear the drool dripping the moment he thinks he has a "gotcha" moment and the eagerness at which he tries to argue all the while not listening at all is just sad
gotta have to thank Mr. Yum Yum for his performance, he really drove the point home how religion poisons everything and makes you an irrational hateful human being
He did seem less manic than usual.
Not to mention stupid.
@@peterwyetzner5276 Not really, no.
@@peterwyetzner5276 just slow playing it, until jimmy spoke.
Best call ever with the 7 day cycle numb nuts. Gutsick and Forrest COMPLETELY destroyed his script by teaching him like a high school student. Then he cried and cursed like a spoiled baby 👶 🤧 😪 😭
Erica is 100% accurate when she says that many of these people don't WANT to learn in order to protect their unjustifiable beliefs.
not really a problem either. People have the right to remain stupid or ignorant if they so chose. I dont understand it but sure....stay dumb if you want. I dont really feel like such people should have adult rights and influence tho because they just gonna push they disinformed asses onto others and ruin it for many in the process
Mr. YumYum: "I need to know why you call it an instinct!"
Forest: "Because that's the name of what we're talking about."
You can really see his brain malfunction when Forrest is walking him through the three reasonable points.
Jimmy, changing ' Mr. Yum-Yum's name tag into ' Mr. Dunning-Kruger '... i laughed my ass off... 😀
Yum Yum is a bit of a Dumb Dumb. Also, I love the Forrest and Erika team up.
Mr. Seven Day cycle somehow proves that the Bible is inherent. Even though the day names are taken from Norse gods.
@@markallen8022 He's back with even more bad arguments. The guy is a walking Dunning Krueger award.
@@markallen8022 people have already pointed that out to him. He insists that the names of the days of the week may have different names around the world, but the fact that everyone in the world has seven day weeks is proof that everyone is under the god of the bibles rule.
What's his yt page? Assuming he has one.
Mr Yum-Yum aka Mr Delicieux was so embarrasingly intellectually undressed.
"First of all, the Bible doesn't make any unreasonable claims." 🙄
He doesn't bring anything to the convo but his own incredulity and it's begining to show. He tries to reword his old canards but he's running out of material.
Yeah Mr Dumbdumb does not understand logic.
I don't know what it is but i don't like it. Sigh.
doesn't understand evolution and believes magical daddy "created" humans with MAGIC! two for one. also called himself a skeptic. three for one sale right there if you're into bs.
Agreed with Erika that Yumyum didn't want to hear the explanation.
he was just out of his depth
I'm a skeptic but anything the bible says is true cuz its in the bible - Mr Yum Yum
Mr. Delicieaux, the flipside of the skepticism coin is that when the evidence DOES support a conclusion, you should accept it.
He seems to have borrowed Kent Hovind's claim that the Bible talks about animals reproducing after their kind, which is not correct- the Bible refers to the fact that there are different kinds of animals, plants, etc.
@@Leith_Crowther Good point. Some people confuse being a skeptic with merely being contrarian and/or anti-establishment.
This guy is the same idiot who thinks the 7 day week proves Jesus, not a septic just a moron
3:39 Loch (he/him) | Caller wants to talk about the game "Ancestors: the humankind odyssey."
12:26 Caroline (she/her) | Are zoos harmful or helpful?
51:53 Mr. Yum Yum (he/him) | Caller thinks that evolution is "totally ridiculous."
1:27:50 John (he/him) | "Do we have any clues of an evolving sense of morality among certain species in the fossil record?"
2:00:08 Robert (he/him) | Caller wants to talk about speciation.
2:27:16 Superchats.
Again, thanks so much for the time stamps! :)
This is brilliant! Thanks!
Legend
Dam near Herculean effort this time thank you!
Awesome, you rock
the caller around 00:57:00: "I am a skeptic."
And he believes that there was a talking donkey in the Middle-East. He also believes that Prometheus does NOT grow a new liver each day. That would be magic, you know.
I'm not usually in favor of banning because of ineptitude, but Mr. Yum Yum is too underequipped to even have an adult conversation. His only schtick is unearned arrogance and pretension.
He is obnoxiously arrogant. I think they were too charitable with him.
@@cullenarthur8879 Based on his past calls, he has demonstrated himself to be unable to be educated. Obnoxiously arrogant is as apt as possible.
Really can’t stand that guy
It’s either trolling, willful ignorance, or a genuine cognitive deficit that he has no control over. Whatever the case, it’s no longer entertaining. And the derogatory language is not cool.
I think he was a troll or not real. He was trying to goad them from the beginning. I haven't finished the call yet because I had to take a break from him but when talked about "knowing that he is talking to a woman" i felt like he knew they are pro trans and was trying to just start fights. I really wish Matt was on at times like that.
Mr. Yumyum brought some serious christian Dunning Kruger to the table.
It's just the 7 day cycle troll again.
@@TheNomad94 What gene may be responsible for him to behave like this. There can hardly be evolutionary benefits in being obnoxious as hell.
@@TheNomad94 There are 7 heavenly moving objects visible to the naked eye, sun, moon, and five planets. Pagans attributed a major god to each. Each of our days in the week is named after one of these pagan deities, most of them from Norse mythology. NOT one given a biblical name.
PS - the months are mostly named after Roman gods (Janus), two emperors (Julius and Augustus Caesar), or a number in Latin. Again not biblical.
More like Mr Dumbdumb amiright?
Yumyum has actually been excited by an argument made by a Muslim in a recent debate against Dillahunty : Beavers know how to make dams without being taught, as knowledge is learnt, the omni teacher in the sky must have taught them secretly. (thus the use of the word information instead of the word behaviour)
Yum yum deserves the classic "You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."
...inconceivable.
I absolutely love Gutsick Gibbon! She's so intelligent and articulate. I learn a lot from her and Forrest.
Also, I'm in absolute stitches over the Big Foot argument.
Ðey’re an amazing combo. I love ðem boð
Did anyone *not* recognize Yum Yum's voice to be 7 day guy in like 2.2 seconds?! I'd call him the waste of time he is, but I love listening to Erika & Forrest talk about evolution!
Firstly, let's show appreciation to the callers, wonderful slapstick entertainment and secondly, to our wonderful and insightful hosts for the free informative lecture.
Listening to Forest and Erika geek-out is priceless 😊
I'm dying🤣🤣 Mr dumb dumb aka delicioso got his ass schooled by REAL knowledge people
Yumyum has been excited by an argument made by a Muslim in a recent debate against Dillahunty : Beavers know how to make dams without being taught, as knowledge is learnt, the omni teacher in the sky must have taught them secretly. (thus the use of the word information instead of the word behaviour)
Also beavers have the instinct to build but have to learn dam building by watching their parents do it.
@@Galaxia7 apparently not, even orphans from birth have à tendancy to muck about with logs, water and mud ~ therefore Allah!
When Jimmy says, "please finish soon" and I see three hours left on the video.
Ya'll are saints. Mr. Yum Yum creeped me the heck out.
He's called into similar shows and is 100% more unhinged in a couple of those.
He was getting so aggressive, too. The hosts were so patient and calm, and letting him speak over them, and he was so heated. He called in already all strung up.
I see Gutsick Gibbon and I click. And then I get a treat.
2nd that.
Expanding on my superchat to part of Yum's call, 2, 4, 6, 8 isn't enough to conclude that 10 is the next number. This is only true if f(n) = the positive even numbers.
It turns out, if f(1) = 2 and f(n) = the nth prime + 1, for n > 1, this will produce f(5) = 12 and f(6) = 14.
Also, if n starts at 0 and f(4) is indeed 12, then the following polynomial can be obtained using Newton's Finite Difference method:
f(n) = [2n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)] / 24 + 2n + 2
and f(5) = 22 as predicted by this polynomial.
The Finite Difference method can go on the create an infinite amount of sequences that start with 2, 4, 6, 8.
Now you are just showing off.
I flunked math, but I really enjoy these kinds of math puzzles once someone explains it.
I believe everything you said.
I'm also on the floor crying because that shit hurt.
Annnnd it's gone. I forgot everything I read.
Yes, it is. If you had to choose just one of those two, without being able to ask questions, knowing someone came up with this question, would you actually answer 12 instead of 10?
@@issecret1 Being a bit of the math nerd I am, I had to point out that there is this possibility. Not remembering who this was in response to (mostly because I'm being lazy right now and don't want to look through the video again) and knowing that there are smart alecks out there that might pull this trick, I'm also covering all my bases.
The seven day cycle can be easily made moot by pointing to the Periodic table. A mortal man made something, that the entire universe abides to - when Mendeleev came up with the table, they knew about how many elements - half of what we have now. And it's all neatly ordered.
Mr Dun dun: how do you know a fish does not have a soul and we do?
Also a question I would’ve asked
I think it's hilarious Delicieaux thinks he's not still in the lower life form phase of "his evolution."
Dude definitely is imbalanced at the least
You two are awesome!! Watching from New Zealand. Thanks 👍
I could listen to this forever. Please don't stop.
I think Mr. Yum Yum might be responsible for more deconstruction than Forrest and Erika combined... What a joke of a human being.
The road to atheism is littered with Bibles
They did it again! Yessssss! I love these two!
I heard you on Seth's show recently. Just awesome listening to you two bounce off each other. I burned 500 calories trying to keep up!
Wow. If someone would have told me "You get to see Forrest and Erika argue about bigfoot in this episode," I still would have never guessed that the argument was WITH EACH OTHER...
Forrest and Erika are like the dynamic duo of youtube science. Pure awesomeness. People who really know about what they talk about and they love to teach and share knowledge. And by the way, Erika is beautifullllll!!!!!!!
I am a very philosophically and metaphysically minded person but these two helped me deconstruct so quickly. Absolutley love their content and expertise.
My guy yum yum is irredeemably lost
Yum Yum doesn't have two brain cells to rub together. Incredible. Reminds me of that smoothbrained G-man fella.
funny how theists see evolution.....just about to watch this part but from the comments, he does not believe in evolution......i saw a show on the history channel last week where they got together about 6 or 7 religious people who believed in evolution......they were trying to fit their god into evolution....the one part which i found crazy was they came to the conclusion god intervened in evolution when chromosome 2 was fused..........i only caught it halfway through but wonder what their explanation for dinosaurs was
If he had one brain cell, it would die of loneliness.
Through ignorance he thought he was like a boxer playing rope-a-dope, ready to lay down his gochas, when in reality this boxer was comatose in the back of an ambulance on the way to A&E dreaming he was still in the fight.
He'll just disappear in time also, just like gman. The guy considers himself some kind of braniac like gman when time upon time he gets the door in his face. Rational reasoning right out of the window.
He just showed how educated he really isn't in this conversation, really sad.
its sad really when people believe a 2,000 old book over science
I am so happy to hear someone like Forest bring up that food allergies are a part of the equations when considering going vegan/vegetarian. My family strugles with severe food allergies for nuts, peanuts, eggs, many types of fruit and a high occurance of soy allergy. Even sligthly altering our diets to include less animal product is a massive undertaking for folks like us.
Two brilliant people
As soon as I heard yum yum say the world is subdued by the Bible, I knew exactly who it was.
Mr. Yumyum doesn't understand evolution but thinks that it's ridiculous.
That is essentially Dunning-Kruger.
my favorite two debaters, both very kind and super knowledgeable. I'm far more likely to recommend you both to any creationists for your content than Mat or Aron (i love them both but working hospitality for so many years I can relate to their short temper). Keep up the good work you sexy beasts
I cannot abide the short tempers. Only one time, when I was occupied and Mr Dillahunty came on accidently, did I hear him be kind.
A theist woman whose beloved relative had died called to ask if he thought she could speak with their spirit. She was in pain and he gently got her to realize that it wasn't possible, but she could embrace all her memories for comfort.
Wow! He had turned over a new leaf, so I tuned in again only to find him snarling at a caller again. No more.
Imagine needing the amount of attention the 7 day cycle person needs
The abandonment issues are strong with him, seven days a week.
@@Heathen.Deity. - Does he know that the Beatles wrote a song called "Eight Days a Week"? Lots of different perspectives!
1:14:17 I love that you muted him and changed his name to Dunning-Kruger. In the future, when he inevitably calls back, COMT would be a great response to his “instinct” questions. It is know as the “worrier or warrior” gene, because alterations in the gene lead to a phenotype of either being more aggressive or more prone to anxiety. Pretty sure those qualify as “information” with behaviors.
Edit: I also should add that “instincts” and “behavior” can also be greatly influenced by structure. Look at Michael Phelps, as an example. I’ve met him in person and, holy shit, his arms are looooong. He’s “built” to swim; but if you were to throw him on a cross country race, he’s not gonna do well. Then you have those like the Mountain, who may have higher testosterone or less myostatin, or any other number of factors, but even if he were to train for a marathon in his youth, his body is still going to be more geared towards high weights. So it’s not that they were “created” for those activities, but with the equipment they randomly developed, they leaned towards activities they were innately better at.
Hormone balance, muscle fiber type ratio, bone density, COMT…all of these are hereditary factors that influence your ability to do stuff, which in turn influences your behavior.
I loved the comparison of accepting "microevolution" and only accepting low altitude gravity.
My favourite nerd duo! I always hated biology, but I will listen to Forrest and Erika for hours
Some brilliant discussions, great show. Erica and Forrest are the dream team.
My two favorite scientists! Thanks for all that you both do! I would like to call in sometime soon to discuss my recent deconstruction/deconversion from a fundamental YEC with an 8th grade education to now working on my psychology degree. My intro Biology class blew my mind and piqued my curiosity, I began researching and haven’t stopped since that class in the fall of 2020. Anyway, thanks for all you guys work!
Omg, I just noticed on my rewatch that Jimmy changed Yum Yum's name. I'm fucking dead.
Richard Dawkins has a video out about the evolution of the eye, here on YT.
I think it was part of his "Waking Up In The Universe" series.
I think it's _PBS Eons_ channel that may also have an episode on it.
"I know absolutely nothing about the topic, the basics that you are talking about is brand new to me. Also, it contradicts my book, so it must be wrong."
How do you even know it contradicts your book if you don't know anything about it
My main problems with clover is that. Not everyone likes it, it spreads fast and it's pain in the ass to remove.
Large part of my job is to remove "weeds" in a nearby city, so I'm contractually obligated to say this. Hell yeah we should go use clover instead.
Bees love it and they can use all the help they can get.
I’ve been listening for 3 hours now… you guys are awesome at keeping my attention, it’s not easy, so good job lol
Who DIDN'T know who Mr Dum Dum was when you heard the name? Or the voice?
just the voice and even then it took me a couple minutes to apply it, when he let under himself when he thought he got Forrest
forrest should have ask yumyum what does a fish and a human have in common . a spine
@@jakesmith5278 Brian who?
Mr Yum Yum: “I’ve not got a clue about evolution, genetics, biology, or any other associated field of science… but evolution laughable and isn’t true”.
He also said "i want a scientific citation for your claim about instincts and genetics, just ignore my claim the bible is infallible despite scientific research"
@@Julian0101 As if he would even be capable of understanding any of the references.
It is a pleasure to listen to their impressive knowledge
3 hours in, and these two wonderful science educators just had an active, extended argument about which ancient ape Bigfoot would be descended from. I love this channel. XD
Your call with Yum Yum the concept the instincts are based around genetics is one of the coolest things I’ve ever heard. The call was not wasted. ❤
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Go Erica!
Got Milkweed?
I've been butterfly gardening since the mid '80s. Grass is dumb, except some of the native prairie grasses like Bluestem and others which support both birds and butterflies.
My gardens are all wildflowers and some dumb lawn only because I live in a condo setting. Got lots of Milkweed for the Monarch butterflies.
Brilliant people
These might be my new favorite hosts, although I like everyone! They have the patient of saints. And the game was super fun!! I’d watch a whole stream of just that!
I guess some people can't see the forest for the trees or the gibbon for the apes.
What a banger stream.
I don’t usually comment on anything, it has to be the most enjoyable 6 hour video I have listened too. You all 3 are very educational and a blast to listen too, I hope to meet you guys one day and just talk. Thank you for being amazing. And F-U-Jimmy. ❤️
Erika is my favourite creationist debunker. Fantastic!
I really like these two. The evolution of morality and behavior was new info for me. Much appreciated
You gotta love when people like Delicious say that the word of god is clear, despite the loads of translations
I think it's great they've reduced meat consumption! Being vegan isn't feasible or practical for a lot of people, but not eating meat even once a week will still have an impact! All the vegans/vegetarians I know in person say that too. I think it's mainly the extremists on the internet that think everyone needs to be completely vegan no matter what, and they are loud unfortunately.
Thanks 👍
The caller John and the resulting conversation was simply delightful😊
Mr. "YY" realised he did'nt have a snowflake's chance in hell against Erica and Forrest, so he went for suicide by mod.
Just found out out about this binging Gutsicks content, Forrest you're too nice for your own good we all need a Jimmy
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Look at Forrest advocating for Soylent green 😂
I was not sure about the game when Jimmy pitched it but holeeeeee shit this was gold. My new fav episode of skeptalk!
I hated the game, but to each their own I guess.
I really enjoyed hearing two brilliant biologists arguing about Bigfoot.
lions at Calgary zoo always stared at the wall away from people :(
This was such a treat! 6 and a half hours of Erika and Forrest?!?! I watched the whole thing and loved ALL of it haha.
"Evolution is totally ridiculous. That's it. What is it again?" ?!
Finally it's over. Now I can watch it. Silly I know.
It's not that silly. It's nice to be able to pause and skip.
Even after 6 hours, still left wanting more. Great job!
@JimmySnow
I'm 99.8% straight, but now I want to come down to Texas just to bring you sammies and huggles to ease our mutual loneliness. 🥺💚
I've seen faucets move on their own before. Faucets are valves and valves are kept shut by friction. Depending on the type of valve differential pressure across the valve can actually cause the valve to open on its own if the coefficient of friction is low which for some valves, especially older ones, can happen.
Forrest? Erika? Must confess I love you both... you are SO passionate about what you talk. I think people like us kept their childlike curiousity alive. 🥰
I’m not sure why we aren’t mentioning a name, as the person in question posted it to their TH-cam channel, but I have the utmost respect for the “no longer vegan” individual and thought these two (and Jimmy) handled it perfectly. Well done everyone.
Idk, Jimmy seemed quite combative and accusatory, and nothing I've seen indicates that this ex-vegan deserves that.
"I'm a skeptic"....... "I believe it because the Bible says so".
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More Erika and Forrest please. Great show, thanks Jimmy for making this happen.
Animals are a gateway drug to science.
Quote of the episode
Love love love-ity love love these two! I super look forward to Erika/Forrest podcasts as The Line stacks up patreons.
I wouldn't mind seeing these two get their own biology-themed The Line show. The overall humanist tie-in seems straightforward to me, and I've even got some title suggestions for ya Jimmy:
Life on The Line (or even just Life Line)
Life, Live
Real-Time Evolution
Bio-Line (okay weak I know)
I can dream, right?
Jimmy your response to Mr yum yum was the best thing ever!!!
"The end is in sight", Jimmy says, with a whole hour left.
Life coming naturally makes no sense to them but magic/supernatural is more logical LMAO
At age 32, I have learned for the literal first time right this very second, that the reason Isaac Newton invented Integral and Differential calculus was to find mathematics to explain the orbits of the planets, which is so incredibly coo!!
IF LITERALLY ANYONE BEFORE NOW had explained that to me I would have 1000% more interested in calculus!
Loved the game and these two should be a staple of skep-talk at least once a month Jimmy please make it happen best episode of skeptalk yet!!❤
I love when Robert calls! I believe he's called ACA shows before too. He's hyper logical and very well informed. He's also so freaking nice I can see him up against apologists and them getting freaking frustrated that they can't break his calm and make him mad! He's a great human being and ultra well grounded, and we need more Atheists like him!
Put me up against a creationist, and I will try my best to rip them to shreds, Robert sounds more like he will go out of his way to straighten them out with knowledge and understanding, and take as much time as needed to get them to listen. I wonder how he takes to them being disingenuous ass wipes while he is so accommodating? Where is his breaking point? We may never know!
If you are reading this Robert: You Rock!
And you can call me bob, Robert is just the official version. I'm not an official!🤪
OK, now I've watched the whole thing. :) Regarding the issue of theists/creationists not calling in: I've been watching call-in shows for a looooooong time now, and y'all are correct that these people don't call in because 1) They don't like direct interpersonal confrontation -- most people don't, after all -- and would rather spew their nonsense in chat or comments and 2) They do not want to know the truth and do not care if their beliefs are false. They want to make believe. I'd estimate that 96% of those who do call in just want to preach, and they will never have an honest conversation because they CAN'T do so. So, while it can be fun to listen to such people flounder and be ridiculous, it honestly gets boring after a while because it's the same "arguments," all the time, and usually from the same small batch of people. On a very rare occasion you'll get a new and actually honest theist/creationist caller, but they are few and very far between.
I know that The Line's "thing" is call-in shows but, frankly, I think the call-in aspect is much less valuable than the educational aspect of the show, equipping atheists/skeptics with better arguments and information to use when interacting with other people. IMO, that educational value is derived more from the questions that come in via superchats and the discussion between the hosts that they generate than from the calls. I certainly enjoy the superchat part more. I dunno, maybe that's an unpopular opinion, but it's the one I have.
I love how Forrest mentions Sapolsky on each and every show. He's not only a great scientist but also an amazing person. Each time he mentions his name, I always remember his book "A Primate's Memoir". If you love Sapolsky as much as I and Forrest do, and haven't read that book yet, please do.
Yet another awesome show! Love the game!!! 💖💛💙
I called NASA to tell them their new SLS rocket design is ridiculous. I'm not an aerospace engineer, I'm just a skeptic.
I think, in spite of the stark reality that these creatures in Sea World are generally suffering, probably quite a lot, that the main benefit is that such organizations teach people, particularly children, to care about animals and sea life that they otherwise would never see and never acquire any empathy for. It's a rough trade off.
Mr Yum Yum is never here for an honest conversation. Same thing every single call
"What do I have in my pocket?...therefore god"
you can practically hear the drool dripping the moment he thinks he has a "gotcha" moment and the eagerness at which he tries to argue all the while not listening at all is just sad