Trans Women vs Women in Sports
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2021
- Trans women compete in women’s sports and many win.
Is that fair?
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Mountain bike racer Leia Schneeberger doesn’t think so.
She was winning races until a former men’s cyclist transitioned and started racing.
Now that person wins.
Trans athlete and scientist Joanna Harper says that shouldn’t be a problem: “The idea that trans women are hugely going to outperform ... does not hold up to the statistics ... Trans women lose muscle … with hormone therapy.”
Many trans women do take testosterone blockers that help align their body with how they identify. They lose strength and speed.
But developmental Biologist Emma Hilton pushes back, “you can’t fix some performance gaps…. a male could be 40% stronger than a female on his legs."
Schneeberger concludes, “To watch a transgender female ride away from me like it was nothing … was torture.”
I'm not trying to be mean, but if trans women were the same as women, they wouldn’t be called trans women.
Exactly. Because "Transgenderism" is just Make-believe.
But they are still women?
5 years from now "trans woman" will be a slur and you'll be forced to call them women and lie or suffer consiquences.
Exactly. Trans is for transition so, in essence, they are always transitioning which means they are never fully a woman.
And cis women are simply women.
You will NEVER see a woman that transitions into a man qualifies for the men's Olympic team in an event that requires speed or strength. That should tell you something.
why people dont get this is beyond me
@@rishiramkissoon6976 I think everybody gets it. Those pretending not to understand it are choosing to benefit from the fear others have of being called a bigot/transphobic at the expense of women's sports and cis-women athletes
That should be the argument. I can name several men to women dominating. I don't know ANY women to men winning. NOT A SINGLE ONE. There is proof.
US WNST getting beat by a bunch of 15 year old boys pretty much says it all.
The majority of transgendered people are male to female anyway. Really tells you something.
Imagine prime mike Tyson identifying as a woman and going 274-0
203 KO
71 death
71 death well damn 😂😂
just let them be. i view trans like i view flat earthers. whatever dood
@@Read.A.Journal.Article we shouldn't let them be because they're literally affecting women (bathrooms, sports)
Unfortunately, all girls in sports are going to have to say NO. Protest and don't show up. Don't let them cheat and steal this from you.
This isn't cheating. As long as you have taken testosterone blockers, you can compete.
This affects women's ability to secure scholarships for college, brand sponsorships if they're professionals and many other aspects of women's sports. What will eventually occur is that only trans women, honestly men, will be competing in women's sports. A fat man named Brian Nguyen recently was crowned Miss Greater Derry 2023 in a pageant sponsored by the Miss America organization. Not only that but he also received a college scholarship and corporate brand deals meant for women. And the other contestants stood around and clapped and cheered for this fat, homely guy and his "extraordinary achievement". So if those women don't care that mentally disturbed men and virtue signaling judges are robbing them of their future, why should I care?
The military is watered down with women. Why not beef up women's sports with a few men athletes? Women want diversity in everything. Well, there it is.
Yes. when the TV cameras are there, refuse to compete!!!
This trans is saying it's ok for girls to lose races to men because it's all about inclusion , Which means we just don't care .
"I can train 20 hours a week but I cannot train to be a man"..... that sums it up pretty well folks.
I don't understand where our world is going.
First woman raise issue with gender bias, and pay gaps etc
Then if a man or woman wants to change their gender they say not to discriminate transgender
Then they say these trans have advantages.
Maybe now I will wait for a trans woman to man, compete men and some new drama erupts.
This all coming in just last 10 years.
I am feeling I want to go to 90s or maybe 2000 year back.
@@Eren-da-Jaeger of course trans women have an advantage it’s basic biology it’s not an issue of ‘changing the narrative’…
@@Eren-da-Jaeger yeah man the 90’s was the shit, nowadays everyone hides behind social media talking shit feeling like they have something to prove to someone they’ll most likely never meet in their life.
@@Eren-da-Jaeger same...the 2000s were so good aswell
@@doingadlay true, early 2000s had the shadow of 80-90s but who knew where these stupidities were seeded.
Men are now dominating male and female sports. Well done boys!
Lmao.
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😂
you killed me
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The ONLY way to put a stop to the madness is to NOT compete when there’s a trans opponent. You can’t win anyway!! Sit out!! Let them compete against one another!!
Yeah! If there's someone 6'6" on the other team and I'm only 5'5" that is so unfair-- I'm sitting out coach! Cleary you didn't train me well enough to compete with athletes of varying physiology, only my own clones!
They should start a new category of trans vs trans
"Cis women don't win races because they aren't fast enough." This is textbook circular reasoning.
If the women just need to 'try' harder let's just scrap female sports and then they can try hard together
Cis is a made up word. Real women won't win against men pretending to be woman. Men, regardless of their fantasy, don't belong in women's sports.
Well it's perfectly fine reasoning, actually. It just completely sidesteps the REASON they're so much faster. And that's because... duh, they're men.
@@SeraphsWitness yep.
It's gaslighting
"Trans scientist advising the Olympics"
This person should be embarrassed how they aren't following the scientific method at all. Biology matters. Bias doesn't.
He looks to the side when talking meaning he is lying
She works at a university. Not surprising.
Trans scientist. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It used to be that women were tested for male hormones. If they possessed too much, disqualification occurred. A lot of Soviet Bloc athletes can attest to this.
They're only identifying as a scientist.
This is completely disrespectful against women. It's misogyny.
And some will still disagree and say that trans women deserve to compete against real women. Insanity.
In my day we would have called this cheating. Today it’s heroic.
"We have lost the plot." - Alex Belfield
I didn't even glance over your content before I subscribed. If it's stossel like I'm there. I'll check out your videos this afternoon. Also if you're stossel like I owe you thanks for doing all my research for me.
@@greenmanalishi9919 ha. Thanks. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed but if you are I love input of all sorts.
@@josueveguilla9069 and our collective minds…..
@@TheMichaelMove Too true.
So sick of hearing how society needs to be rebuilt to suit 0.1% of the population.
.1? .01? .001? Wonder how little the real number actually is....
@@TorchFpv 0.001%
10% of T are using L, G, B and 90% of T to excuse their malicious intents.
Yes its unfair. I am 48 and just went through chemo. I can still bench press 225 for 14 reps. Never seen a woman at my gym ever do over 200.
Damn, I can barely do 125 lol.
God bless you. I pray you stay healthy and are 💯 cured.
Dude youre a Beast💪
lets go, hormone therapy does jack, besides muscle mass or tester one, because of how men are built, we have wider shoulders, we're taller, we have smaller hips, we have bigger throats, lungs etc, we're faster, quicker etc. Even if you had a child transition before puberty, (first of all that's disgusting it's literally sterilization, before the child can make a legitimate choice, due to prefrontal cortex not being fully developed until 25) but you can't regulate, some boys hit puberty at very very young ages
Hope you’re are better now?
The day that a trans man can win gold in the Olympics in the men's league is the day we can talk about trans women entering women's sports.
"This person took first place in a women's track event despite being ranked 390th in the men's league."
"I have absolutely no explanation for this."
Do we need to explain. Isnt obvious
Hormone replacement therapy. Explained.
@@Coheenez No, he was so week he nearly ranked 400, so he decided to compete with women.
@@psyxypher3881 and you know this how? Are you Laurrel? Or are you just prescribing some behavior based on your predisposed bias against trans people?
In all my years as a track athlete, & watching track & field events, I've never seen a male sprinter win by such a large margin as that "trans" woman. It's sickening, & blatantly unfair to the real female competitors.
Funny how quickly “follow the science” becomes “follow the narrative”
The narrative is take one up the crap chute!
The Leftist two-step is pushing into the narrative, finding a couple "experts" who agree, and then call THAT "the science". It's an abuse of the scientific enterprise. And sadly the majority of scientists don't have the nuts to step up and say "no". They just want tenure, they want to quietly research, and be left alone. They don't want to actually stand up for anything that's been made political.
It's horrifying to see this happening in the medical field.
So medieval Catholic church all over again?
They pick whatever statistics supports their argument and then ignore the rest. "Transgender women aren't dominating any sports so it must be acceptable to just let them compete."
@@enzobatista8467 cept it's 2021. If there wasn't an excuse in medieval times, there's even less of an excuse now.
that one trans scientist brought up so many different topics and never really answered the main point which is: Trans woman have a biological advantage over biological woman.
No no no no no no, a woman can do anything a man can do and do it better.
One of the most aggravating aspects of this topic is that these 'trans-women' have the temerity to use the completely redundant term cis women in reference to actual women. Whilst I have sympathy for those suffering from all forms of mental illness, their referring to women as cis women is unacceptable and very insulting.
"Cisgender" is an unnecessary, nonsensical adjective. While I wouldn't go so far to say it's a slur, it doesn't make sense. I was a male at birth. I'm a man now (an adult male human). How am I "cis"gender? I didn't have a gender (in the trans ideology sense) at birth, I had a sex, which was observed and recorded. Cis is an unnecessary term and like other outdated terms - e.g. the term "transexual" - it belongs in the bin.
Simple, just have trans competitions. Make them have their own class.
Trans women are women. Women have made it very clear that gender is a construct of the patriarchy. So imma need women to stop complaining and work harder. We are all equal now like you wanted. 😂🤣😂
@@krismiller9911 it's starting to get very confusing here
@@s.a.2317 just remember left is right, right is up, 1+1 = 3 and radius is a pie. Once you get that you have it .
That would make too much sense.
Hmmmm....now THERE'S an idea!
It’s amazing how uncommon common sense has become.
Common sense has become so rare that it can now be considered a superpower.
@@bertha4304 it is now considered 'conspiracy'.
It’s amazing how illiberal liberals have become
When you hear someone say that we need "common sense" solutions you know it is going to be craziness.
Common sense has never really been all that common. But as the other commentors have said, it has become so rare it is like a super power now 🤣🤣.
Also, like the "common sense reform". You know that's going to be some steaming pile of horse 💩
There should be a separate Transgender sports section ‼️
so that the trans women can still be the ones winning everything over ther trans men. lol
That's problematic because you're going to run into comparisons to the "separate but equal" ideology that dominated the Jim Crow era.
Create your own category; don’t disrupt others lives. Go do what y’all love but only for what you identify with.
I teach P.E. One afternoon I told my kindergarten class, 'boys and girls have a great day'. The classroom teacher heard me and told my I'm not supposed to do that because there might be transgender children the classes.
The next week I said, 'boys and girls have a great day'. I'm not bowing to stupidity.
Absolutely thats ridiculous
please continue
I suspect the parents of transgendered kindergarteners are the same people who have vegan cats.
Purple penguins please or sup peeps or sup yall please.
That is really stupid. Even if there WERE transgender students in that kindergarten class, trans kids would generally just want to be referred to as the gender they identify as - either a boy or a girl. That teacher sounds like a Tumblrina.
Any person with at least half a brain and some moral integrity will acknowledge that this is not fair.
i think if you require athletes to be on hormone therapy for a certain time frame before allowing them to compete in their chosen genders competitions it can be made fair
if that doesn't work I'd say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
They couldn't hack it in mens sports so they switched where they will win forsure end of story
@@quirin5061 it's still not enough, there is more than just hormones, if you past puberty as a male you will grow bigger faster and stronger, ever if you later take hormones later it's already too late.
@Lujack Shaw alot of people didnt want them ! its not our choice if they go to the olympics or not ! i certainly didnt want them its ridiculous makes sports look bad !
Common sense was thrown out
Hats off to those brave enough to speak out against clear discrimination and idiocy. We all know many more people feel that it's grossly unfair but are scared of being called transphobic. So wrong.
Who cares if they call anyone homophobia who disagree with them. I stand with the true females. Go back into your closet.
Ironic, given how transphobia is way more tolerated than trans people.
I don't compete in professional sports and I'm still alive and happy. This is all ridiculous and it's not fair to the women that have to deal with this. I truly think this will be a short lived as it's getting much negative publicity and people are outraged.
honestly we shouldn't even give them their own sports section, it's a recipe for "we should get equal pay" relistically like three people would watch it. And it just is absurd, changing gender that is
These same women you are defending will work to deny you your own space because you are being patriarchal and displaying toxic masculinity. It’s about equality until it affects them negatively.
Imagine being ranked 390th. when competing against men...then "transitioning" to a woman and easily beating everyone. I feel bad for these women who are literally competing against men.
he/she/it .didn't .seems a bit drastic to me cutting your di## off to try to win a medal /get fame push an agenda
And then had to feign injury at a weight he/she/ it had cleared before to pull out .
you dont even need to be 390th you could just be a very good amature
Even crazier, imagine doing that and saying it doesn't have anything to do with you being a man lmao
@@stephenjones6500 Transwomen don't have to get bottom surgery to compete in the Olympics and many other organizations. They still have a penis and balls, generally.
They just have to keep their testosterone suppressed for a year. And it isn't enough to make up for the advantages they got from going through male puberty.
If she were truly brave, she'd compete in men's competitions.
Agreed. Moreover, no naturally born human male who has fully entered into manhood would consider it a success to defeat a woman at any sport involving strength and agility. The biological differences between male and female humans cannot be ignored.
Cowardliness is a natural right worth being protected
"If he were truly brave, he'd compete in men's competitions."
There. Fixed it for you.
Are you saying that the weakest men is still stronger than the strongest women and all "weak man" bullshit is a LIE??? Who would guess?
@@seedmore2751 no, you are trying to put words into my mouth.
Put it back where you got that shit and get out.
They should have Trans league. Let them compete among themselves. Now, that's fair.
This situation is so irritable.
TW are taking advantage of the system until now. It has to stop.
It’s simple John. They can identify as winners without having to compete.
The cis women right?
Hilarious!!!!!
Is this the Garfield meme?
Hey my money goes towards the trans person I meant. womanM M mean Men well it doesn't matter. I could still be bigot or sexist or racist still win money because I know sheM . will always win :D thanks GEN Z woke culture and STW for a racist bigot and sexiest person to still get some money PS. They're not going to commit suicide become. more depressed stop feeling sad for them focus on your own life trans people are not .retarded so you don't have to stand up for them all the time
Just like Simone biles, she won bronze!! She truly is the goat 😂
"I really haven't raced since." - Leia Schneeberger, three-time Wisconsin Off-Road bike race champion. A champion level competitor pushed out of the sport by an ideological pathology festering in our culture.
she's 44. how long do they last?
This is seriously a very sad era for humanity and mental health.
"Sis", that's a belittling disrespectful reference. Be who you want to be, but you don't get to compete in gender specific events.
Women can only fix this for themselves. If a trans athlete enters, they all need to sit out.
This is the ONLY solution. If a woman athlete takes part in the event she is giving her nod of approval.
or men can grow some balls and retake charge of society and set things straight. men's balls shriveled up long ago and they let all this happen so they wouldn't be called mean names.
Man I can't wait to see this.
But if the real women sit it out, won't they be considered having forfeited the competition, and the fake woman ends up winning by default? I could see that happening.
@@wannawatchu66 What about the fall out from that?
And yes it did cross my mind.
"They didn't win because they're 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘴, they won because the others weren't fast enough!" Wow how disingenuous of a perspective. They lost any credibility.
Sexist 😂
They lost nothing.
To loose something, one must have something to loose in the first place.
"They didn't lose to me because I was taking steroids, they lost because they weren't fast enough."
_SHE_ lost credibility, Mad Man P.
An unfair advantage is bad sportsmanship. Period.
This could literally be solved overnight (and I mean that literally) if the women all grew a spine and *REFUSE* to compete. Either don't show up at all, or, if you wanna make a more dramatic statement, show up, but then walk off the court/stage/field. When the game/event starts, literally just do a 180 and walk off. If a bunch of female athletes and teams did that, you'd solve this. But I guess they'd rather be politically correct.
But some have said they would lose out on scholarships and sponsorships as well as having to put up with crazy activists. But yeah, I totally agree. If they can't do it for themselves they should consider doing what you said for their daughters should they have any!
They really go after you if you fight against it. It's not just some people around you that will attack, it's also most of the media. They will try in every way to destroy the person. It's pretty vicious. It's not an easy thing to do and those women that are fighting back are truly courageous. It's also not just them that have to stand up. We all do. We need to fight this too. We are not doing our parts either. Are we?
Wrong. That is not the solution. The solution is that we shouldn't allow people to compete in a gender category that they don't belong to.
Only in US where a problem can be solved within an hour or more less, yet people still find a way to make it into a bigger mess.
That's a pretty unrealistic solution. Women shouldn't have to stop competing and risk their future. It would be even simpler if trans women weren't allowed to compete with women.
It's so odd these days, celebrating people who are playing dress up.
How long 'til all cosplay gets civil rights?
@@freethebirds3578 or becomes an Olympic sport.
It's very Odd
And sad
@@freethebirds3578 Should we accord furries the right to be treated like animals?
It is completely unfair for men to compete in women’s sports, period.
if a man gets his wedding tackle cut off, he is not a woman, he is a man, without a dick, simple hey.
@@davidwarland2680, they used to call them a eunuch. That used to be a thing. Now they're just calling eunuch men, trans-women.
No no no gender is a construct of the patriarchy. We need more trans women in women's sports. 🤣😂🤣
@@krismiller9911 you mean more men in women’s sports?
@@daswordofgork9823 no no women in women's sports. 🤣😂🤣 I hope you understand i am trolling the feminist progressive left and that i agree with segregating men and women's sports.
CIS WOMEN? That term is really pissing women off.
This is so sad. She said she hasn’t completed since because a T-woman left her and the other women competing athletes in the dust. Meanwhile the Transgender Doctor and athlete say the hormone therapy gives them that disadvantage they are on the same level as a biological female. That’s a blatant lie. Well when I see the gold went to the Trans and the silver is now for the original gold medalist 🥇
Do you hear about FTM competing with biological males on any platform in sports or in fighting? No you don’t. Because even though that body is taking hormones they are not men, and they might get crushed.
Men and engineered to be physically stronger than women.
Watching a t-woman beat up a woman is not a victory. Especially crushing her skull. Do I dare say but Transgender woman act like what we label misogynists 😢
At this rate, in a few years we'll just have "Men's sports" and "Former-Men's sports"
LOL...The competitor formerly know as a man
Yup. Thanks to feminism
So now we’re supposed to celebrate these “former” men beating women. How stunning and brave.
One can't ignore the abusive husbands, that will transition, and then beat their former wives to a pulp, and get away with it. It's coming, if it isn't already here.
John Wayne is spinning in his grave.
It’s disgusting that there’s people that think this is okay
When the Olympics is on, there should be Transgender Games, just like we have the Paralympics, and the Special Olympics. Everyone has the right to Compete in Sports, as long as they stay in their own category.
The fact this is even a debate shows how insane the world has gone.
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Exactly.
Born with man parts? You will always be a man.
Your thoughts, hormones, surgeries, and drugs do not change your DNA.
*It's disappointing Stossel doesn't see that obvious fact.*
Dude, LeBrona James is about to kill the WNBA once he retires from the NBA
@@FRN2013 Stossel doesn't often openly take sides, he reports what's going on and plays devil's advocate against both sides. That's what makes him a good journalist.
Laurel Hubbard was able to qualify for the Olympics, despite being an out-of-shape, middle aged man far past his athletic prime, and compete against conditioned athletes half his age. His mere presence in the women's weightlifting division proves trans "women" have an unfair advantage.
Can anyone even name the female athletes who won gold, silver and bronze in this weightlifting event? Another piece of the collateral damage to women's sports.
And Hubbard lost
@@orsors2129 I can, but that's because I love the sport. I really was afraid Hubbard could've placed 3rd, but thank God (s)he failed to finish.
No need to prove anything. “It’s just common sense” (yea, with fauci’s voice)
It's kinda baffling to me that out of shape for a man is Olympic level for a women, but i guess that just the difference when one is designed for hunting and combat and the other isn't
Why is it that the women who attempt to transform to men don’t ever try to compete in men’s sports?
Motorcycles are really just trans-bicycles and should be allowed to enter the Tour de France.
Good one, here have a like
Who are we to deny their truth?
I see you read the Babylon Bee
People have been caught hiding motors in their bicycles before. They are called cheaters.
@Gregory Monlouis Alright, please explain... are women born with Mayer-Rokintansky Kuster Hauser (MRKH) syndrome actually women? Endometriosis? There are other reasons actual women cannot get pregnant
"I have to admit, I'm somewhat at a loss to explain..." That, ladies and gentlemen, is called cognitive dissonance. Or just plain disingenuousness.
I'm going with disingenuousness
Based Murray
Notice how the only people saying it's fair are other science disasters.
Gonna give them benefit of the doubt and call it bias. Confirmation bias among others.
I thought it was called "you caught me in a lie"?
How can the one scientist be objective when she herself is competing?
They’re not irrational…you’re a man competing in a woman’s sport…PERIOD
lol...Period.
@@kubabooba548 I thought the same thing and almost said, “Well, no they have no periods!”
We’re living in a South Park episode that’s on a constant loop.
Strong Women!
I want off this ride :/
AKA the leftist dystopian nightmare.
This is an underrated comment haha
We never werent in a southpark episode.. ☺️ Since day one.
She's a "scientist" and can't explain why a male sprinter beat female sprinters? MIght need to turn in that degree!!
4:40 That's DISTURBING. She disrespected her country MUCH MORE by smiling and she SHOULDN'T have cared about disrespecting the race organizer, hell, he should be demanded and made to pay for his injustice.
This would be equivalent to saying "Well, you've been on steroids your whole life, but now that you've stopped, it's ok for you to compete with others."
No, this would be equivalent to saying "well, you've been on steroids and so that you feel included in the community you can compete against everyone else who isn't on steroids"
Both of these previous comments only take into account strength. It’s more than that, it’s the biological differences between men and women. As said in the video, bigger lungs (HUGE ADVANTAGE), bone structure, bone density (debatable), brain differences and heart differences.
Not even, far more extreme
Trans athlete: "It's fair because I say it's fair. End of discussion" Just like so many things in our country.
its fair because its not "transphobic" is their logic
Depends on what people view is fairness. We’ve some transgender athletes that were only noticed when they had retired or stoped playing in their league as graduated. We’ve had professional female golfers be thrilled over a particular trans female golfer because they knew she would rank near the bottom of the scoreboard. In a marathon with thousands of people, it doesn’t typically make a difference as hard to win or even place top 3 with many runners with you. A trans woman ran a marathon with over 20,000 women and she placed close to 7,000th place. Trans women should be regularly medical tested to confirm that they can properly play. There are biological women with the same testosterone as some men and no enhancement drugs taken either.
These are what we call sandbagging paper champions. As Tommy Gunn found out the hard way, if you want to be treated like a true champion, you must play the best and beat the best!
She told the whole story right there at the end: she hasn't raced again since. It will simply be the end of women's sports because real women will stop competing, and fans will stop caring because who wants to turn out to watch mediocre men compete.
As if fans cared about women sports in the first place. No one cared about women sports even 10 years ago
@@bluehotdog2610 The women competing cared.
@@psycomutt So only a few hundred to a few thousand people in the world? Lets be honest, if sports flat out did not exist, most of the world would not care.
@@bluehotdog2610 Doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to compete in their own bracket. Sit the hell down, bruh. Wrong hill to die on.
@@SkylearJ Sports are on the wrong hill to die on. 99% of Americans don't give a shit about women sports or transgender sports. It doesn't affect the lives of most people.
"I'm at a loss to explain it."
translation - I don't want to say what everybody already knows.
maybe she didn't want to say because black
Exactly
He ain’t a woman
Say what??
One moment women wanted to prove they are equally strong as men in every physical sport and want equal pay but now they are confused
The inquiry transcends the existence of transphobia; it delves into the realm of whether there exists a biological determinant that confers a higher likelihood for a trans woman or trans man to outperform an individual who was assigned a gender at birth in a competitive scenario, especially when the latter competes against a person undergoing transition.
The world needs a John Stossel school of journalism.
Agreed
Amen!
@t k - The world needs PEOPLE to stand up and denounce all this left-wing nonsense and demand a stop to it.
OMG - what a brilliant idea!!! I'm a former Journalism major I can see how things have changed since college. Crazy.
Amazing idea
Couldn't imagine dedicating 10+ of your best years to something only to be blown out of the water by someone who is not even in the right lane
I can. It’s called gender quotas. Kinda like California requiring all companies to have women as board members.
We are ok with feminism when it suits us
He didn't even medal. He lost
I mean, it makes the game super lame and pointless if a man competes against a bunch of women. It's unfair, boring, dangerous, ridiculous...and on top of that, all of our biological women's top scores are getting abolished by new records made by biological men. Wtf is the point of that? Seriously?
If trans is so important for real, have your own categories. Compete against each other and tell me how fair that feels to you.
Back off women's sports...leave it to us.
These men should be ashamed of themselves but given their selfish mindset they are not...Women need to speak up and take action.
The oddest thing about this whole issue (and this really applies to all LGBT issues today) is that if you disagree with the smallest thing about any narratives in the LGBT community they either label you a homophobe or transphobe. I'm a gay man and I think it's completely ridiculous, it's not discriminatory to question or have a different opinion.
@@forgottensailor2006 um yeah we all watched it and it was a netflix exclusive lol
It's called a Kafka trap. It's a tool of oppression.
Well said 👍🏻
have lots of gay friends and they also think is insane for a transgender to go into women sports
There's clearly the homophobe speaking out of you there.
Even their lungs are different, it’s ludicrous.
Exactly and lungs aren’t getting smaller because of hormone blockers.
stronger bone density, tendons, ligament
How dare you use science! Don't you know politics and sad people overarch basic biology?
@@AnOriginalTH-camr Oh you mean they prefer to lie.
They act like testosterone is the end all be all for athletic performance.
why is everyone ignoring the actual doctor
My new favorite defense. "That happened in 2014. It won't happen again."
Seven years isn't really that long ago, either.
That “fight” looked a lot like domestic abuse. The difference in strength was absurd.
I know, how old were you way back then, that's so yesterday or in the past. They crack me up
Well, in the intervening years men have become more effeminate as they mainline soy. The differences in capabilities are no longer that great.
The next step will be perfectly healthy people competing in the paralympics course they identify as a person with disabilities.
Russia already did that.
@@ThatThing66 so did spain xD. But yea seriously.. Technically I am mentally disabled.. I mean I have ADHD and depression so does that mean I can go play with those mentally impaired because by definition I am to. Ofc not. Even if you cut your privates, get a boob job and even take estrogen guess what. Your body (same as my brain) has an unfair advantage. Could I get beaten by a mentally disabled person. Yea but does that still give me the right to compete
Sorry Spain* already did that s***. You living under a rock
that red haired professor was mind raped
😂
Who owns the language, owns the argument.
I am from New Zealand and while Jacinda Ardern (Then Leftist PM) was celebrating that we had a male lifting weights for the woman's team most of the country hung their heads in shame.
“We allow for advantages in sports”
Why do we have women’s leagues at all then?
Exactly. We have the Paraolympics and the Special Olympics for a reason along with separate categories in all Olympics for men and women. For a fully abled athlete to compete in basketball against an athlete who uses a wheelchair in the same sport, that would be egregious. But that’s essentially what this person desires.
Why do we even have world anti doping agency if the allowed testosterone level of transgender is still 4x greater than of very small amount of top woman athlete for the larger part of top woman athlete it is even more than this. But Fairplay in the Olympics is just a fugaisy at this point.
Yep. There’s a difference between advantage and exploits.
"We men transitioned to show these women how it's done".
“It’s not because their trans, it’s because the cis women weren’t fast enough”…. That’s a hot take
Me: “and WHY weren’t they fast enough?”
I knowww.. WOW 😳 It takes some balls to be that arrogant....
@@JotechLung completely believable, have you seen the colleges in the us?
A hot steaming pile take! When she said they lose muscle mass I almost had a spit take. Everyone is just bowing down to the woke power mob who has the control, and most importantly the money.
"I'm allowed to compete in the woman's olympics because I'm a woman"
- Says the trans man after the OP.
That really killed me.
To settle this, it is best to create a Transgender category for all trans-athletes. Men, Women & Transgenders. In return, let the sponsors choose which sex to sponsor. I think that is fair.
My question is. Why is there even a debate about something so blatantly obvious ?
Don’t care what they say, that sprinter…that’s a MAN BABY!
The amount of commies coming out of the woodwork who hate *PROFIT* is astounding
We need some more Austin Powers detectives in the world
No she's not
Deep down the decision makers know it’s not right, but are afraid to be cancelled. It’s the world we live in now.
Its sad how a random mob can overrule free speech.
Their mortgages depend on them being ignorant.
"Deep down?" It's right up on the surface, they *know* what's right and what's wrong. Unfortunately, they *also* know what gets bad press. They've made their decision which is more important. Nothing "deep" about it.
We need to change that world.
You couldn’t be more accurate.
Female Trans Athlete "I demand you accept my physical advantage over you as an equal playing field, and if you don't you are transphobic." So we are dealing with individuals who are at odds with reality.
THIS RED HEADED MAN IS AN ACTIVIST
"Hubbard made history", but so did Charles Manson. Making history isn't necessarily a good thing.
I'm wondering what excuse Hubbard is cooking up for failing miserably.
There's a difference between being famous and infamous.
Well said... thank you...
@@freethebirds3578 "See we're no stronger than real women!"
He 100% sandbagged his performance.
history aint nothing but someone's bullshit story
I'm not at a loss on how to explain it. Because it's fucking obvious why.
Ray Charles can see that !
Just mix all sport, no gender. Why men's, why woman's, mix it all up, just like society, mixed up.
Firmly and completely UNFAIR!
"Men lose muscle mass when they transition" ... Kinda shows you just HOW MUCH STRONGER men are on average than women, that even losing muscle mass leaves them massively ahead on competition. Love the video of the 400m hurdles man who was 300th or whatever, then competes with the women and wins with no one else visible in the camera frame as they pass the finish.
Even the person being interviewed. He looks less muscular than other guys but hes got like zero fat. Compared to a woman who has a similar physique they would look frail at that low body fat if they didnt also do body building.
So this guy says men lose muscle but hes a perfect example that they dont.
Like i havent been able to use the gym seriously in about 10 years. I'm still essentially as muscular as i was when i got chronic fetigue, that also left me unable to do much physical activity at all. So i should be atrophied and weak, but now im finally feeling better, coming back to the gym i can still lift about 90% of what i could ten years ago.
Women take note. Your self defence classes will do nothing. Your pepper spray will only anger me. Bring a gun with you at night if you want any hope
what does that statement "men lose muscle mass when they transition" even mean, maybe they lose 10% muscle but they already had 50% more to begin with?
The top high schooler could beat an Olympic biological female.
@@ge2719 hello, I'm sorry but I'm going through chronic fatigue. It's been so terrible. I've done a huge amount of test and seen a lot of doctors. Do you have any advice? Could I contact you?
Funny how you never see trans men dominating in men’s sports, as a matter of fact forget dominating, they can’t even keep up.
Before this olympics, the most sucessful trans athlete was a man
That's just sexist...I think.
@@koalasquare2145
Who though
@@themacocko6311 how
@@ashinthehouse1710 it was probably a transwoman
New category. Men, women, trans man, trans women categories should be started
“I ran 12% slower”... yeah and the female world record is like 30% slower than the females...
You mean than the males?
@@janfranklin5269 It's confusing now-a-days.
Create and ratify a third Category for competition, TRANS WOMEN.
LET THEM COMPETE AMONG THEMSELVES
UNFAIR!!!!
But... why can't trans women compete against men?
"Because that would not be fair."
EXACTLY.
This could be solved if all women refuse to participate in a competition that allows transgender athletes. Competitions cannot be held without enough participants. Show courage and stick together and you will be victorious in the end.
THIS ^
But that's all is needed for one to be called a bigot. I think all sides need to sit and have a genuine conversation about this with all the stats and facts around. Communication is the key.
@Mike Arnold Agreed.
It's hard to do. For many athletes competing at a high level it's their entire lfe. They can't just walk away.
Yes. ...maybe a different group. Boys, girls and...
Title should read "Men vs Women in Sports" as those are simply men pretending to be women.
3:15 you’re on the record for saying that 😢
It’s scary how this is this even an argument. The West is descending into madness…
Right?
Next will be age is not biological, and if we let society say that kids can choose their gender and consent to puberty blockers, what else can they consent to
For decades we had moral relativism imposed upon us. Now we have medical, psychological, and scientific relativism. It's all insanity.
When and in what way did we have moral relativism without those other two?
@@FRN2013
Excellent comment