"You get to influence the canon of Silent Hill." As if they're going to make any reference to this thing in the future and not immediately memory hole it.
It also really hits me how tasteless that notion is. Like sure, there's overarching canon and 'lore', but I've always thought of Silent Hill as a series of loosely connected horror stories EXPRESSING something. the last thing I'd think is noteworthy is the overall 'canon', it's a series that puts such a focus on its themes.
As if "decision by committee" wasn't already the worst of all possible artistic avenues, now they're leaving it up to people who don't even have a vested interest in the series's continued viability, since if customers run their stinky shit fingers all over something they'll just move on to something they haven't ruined yet. Artists make art, consumers consume art, producers hire artists and try to make their art more consumable. There's no crossover, because each party represents a different interest. Giving producers or consumers too much power is how you wind up with Poochy the Dog.
I would not want to influence the canon of Silent Hill. I've only played 3 of the games and one of them was Downpour which sucked ass. I'm not qualified. #ifuckinglovecapitalism :D
One bonus bit to add here: apparently, some people's votes with their Influence Points just straight-up didn't work, and their decisions were said to have failed when they shouldn't have. The game failed at the literal one thing it was supposed to do - at least from a gameplay perspective. It certainly succeeded at draining its customers' money.
The transparency of the voting is something I'm curious about. Whether we find out down the road that there was no choice, just one video with the illusion of choice added in Which would be an interesting commentary if it weren't for the monetisation.
@@DragonNexus From what I've seen on Twitter, the vods were fixed in post, but it still defeats the purpose of seeing your votes affect decisions on a live stream.
@@DragonNexus I’m willing to bet that there was no real choice, only the illusion of one. It’s like a Telltail game; you can “choose” to save a character, but next episode they’ll die anyways because the writers didn’t need them for their “story.”
More than angry I'm just so broken hearted. Why do they insist on making us think it can't get any worse and proving us wrong? The fact that they Livestreamed to defend the microteansactions was insult to injury too.
One particularly bad year where my family repeatedly comforted itself with the refrain, “At least it can’t get any worse,” we learned to stop saying or thinking that. It can ALWAYS get worse.
Some of the old, classic gags have been making their way back into the show in new ways, and I’m totally here for it. I forgot how enjoyable “fuck Konami news” was.
And remember friends, if their previous work is anything to go by, the developers of the SIlent HIll 2 Remake are going to "both sides" James killing Mary, if not outright blame Mary for James killing her, as that is basically what they did with their game that was specifically supposed to be a Silent Hill spiritual sequel. Also the remake is literally a movie tie-in enjoy!
The guy who is making the movie consider silent hill 2 to be a variation of Orpheus from greek myth. He was a hero who went into hell to save his lover so I expect them to treat James as a heroic figure...
And Hades went, "sure, take your girl, just... don't look back til you're out of Tarturus"... aaand Orpheus looked back, which his girl is gone... again. And is now singing depressingly sad songs that gets on everyone's nerves.
I said that on the Silent Hill subreddit and was downvoted. Like, why tf are you downvoting me? I'm right! They're gonna botch the whole thing, but especially James's and Angela's stories.
So I watched bobvids streaming this on Twitch and he was responsible for the Kojima tummy message. He actually got his viewers and chat to spam the Asenscion chat with that message thinking it wasn't going to work. Yet, Konami's moderation is so nonexistant that it actually worked, and it was glorious.
@@MK_ULTRA420 You don't seem to actually be _satirizing_ anything about the comment you responded to, is the problem. You just spotted the keyword "mob" and regurgitated some of the sarcasm-as-propaganda that certain kinds like so much.
It's like Konami saw how successful and well received the Netflix Castlevania series was and went: "Shit! People might expect us to start making games again instead of cheap cash in Pachinko machines!! Quick, make something so awful that it will kill any interest in any of our video game IP for a good few years!!"
"Quick, make something so awful that it will kill any interest in any of our video game IP for a good few years!!" I'm still convinced that was the _actual_ thought and purpose behind Metal Gear Survive.
When a song about cummies in your tummy is a better piece of media than something produced by a multinational company and their toadies. Well done Steph! And f*ck Konami
Never lasts. Here in the UK they put caps on bankers bonuses after the 2008 collapse. They've just repealed it. The rich never learn because the poor are the ones paying.
To be honest, even if real money wasn't involved, I still think the idea of everyone voting together is a bad idea. Why would everyone voting be anything I want instead of just letting me make my choice for myself? Why would I be interested in letting random people I don't know affect how the story goes for me? Why should I have to share decisions with everyone else when most games let me make my own choices. I don't see the appeal. If I have minimal chance of actually affecting the story in any way, then I may as well watch a normal TV-series.
I agree, someone needs to make a reimagining of Ascension fast, I don't know game development myself And if I want to please the fans, would I make it true to the teaser trailer but throwing away the current story it has and make it more found footage-esque?
This voting idea is worse than normal television. Normal TV is written by humans with a real vision behind it. This is letting the inmates run the asylum.
After seeing an article that Silent Hill: Ascension had to kill their in game chat after too many comments about "cum", I knew what Monday was going to bring. What a glorious day!
Oh my god, I have not waited for a Monday as bad as I have. Second I saw ascension, I knew you were ready to unload both barrels and I swear I heard Skeletor laugh in the distant future.
As you've always said, they're never happy with just some money, they want ALL the money, and I absolutely believe you are correct in thinking we will see something similar to this rear it's ugly head again in the future as other companies consider whether or not to make us try and pay per update/episode/page/whatever else have you. I didn't have high expectations for this "game," however even those weren't low enough apparently.
they could've released this as a little "choose your own adventure game" where everyone decides for themselves how the story should go. After all, it is safe to assume that every outcome has been written and possibly animated already. But no, they made it the worst thing it could ever be.
Konami really had the balls to make a telltale style afventure game and make it an aleays pnline multiplayer live service. If only they had the brains to realize why it would never work.
I think it can work but need to be reworked like they could have made a normal "game" but you could connect it to Twitch or only play with your friends and have like a movie night with people voting for stuff to happen, like Cult of the Lamb, but it can't take itself too serious and make it quite small, like 30 minutes for each story, with multiple paths that can take you from scary story from USA suburbia to a space adventure, but all start in the same place like Stanley Parable.
@@TheDoomBlueShell There are about a million ways in which this could've worked. Konami just took every wrong decision possible in the making of this. Classic Konami.
Seeing how small the production value of Ascension is, I'm pretty sure that it's a success profit-wise. Think of games like Diablo Immortal. People have too much money and will throw it at anything that makes them feel better than others, including buying more votes to influence the story in a game that's essentially a glorified B-movie.
Is it just me or was Steph super adorable in the Pyramid head costume? Like... I get that it was just a helmet and burlap sack but when she walked about it was like watching a cute baby duckling in a Pyramid helmet! I think it was the angle but it made Steph look so small! If yall haven't already, definitely hit up Fun Co. Pop or whoever makes those little desk figurines bc a Steph Sterling collection with Pyramid Steph would be fantastic. Top 3; Commander Sterling with crazy rage laugh face, Shy Pyramid Head, and...I won't say cornflake homunculous.... even though that's what came to mind... Ringmaster Steph? I do like Bethesda is Naughty, but that's an older time and that wack job Jorberson is also on about lobsters. And something something Konami is bad. Honestly, as much nostalgia as I may have about Silent Hill, I think we all know that was just a fever dream that will never return and we should probably be thankful that it doesn't, in hindsight. I don't think any of us slept well after the mannequin murder scene witnessed from inside a closet and if you know, you know, and if you KNOW then you KNOW and don't correct this. O.o Looking at you Randal... you know what you did last Christmas...
Anyone who says that this isn't going to be pushed for on the regular because it's unpopular forgets just how unpopular horse armor was. Now? Every game has horse armor.
It doesn't matter how unpopular something is if it's making company executives richer, which is all the motivation they need to make "horse armor" mainstream. The same applies to shitty products selling under a well regarded brand name.
Back then, I said horse armor was stupid but nothing to really care about. Nowadays I'm against any form of MTX that uses psychology to manipulate people into buying.
I knew this was going to be a great episode when I saw the thumbnail. The fact that this “game” is still up and running is honestly absurd, and I’ll be surprised if it makes it to the end of the year before shutting down. You made a good point about how low companies are willing to go to monetize our entertainment, and I shudder to think of the future implications of what “Ascension” has pushed the envelope for. 😬
What they could've done was allow the player to pick their own options and then set them on a path with others who chose those same options. They could then wait for the next episode to arrive so they can get people to vote on the branch that everyone gets set on going forward depending on the choices made individually. This would split the community into smaller groups of people. For example: Becky chose to save Leon. Then zombies are causing a ruckus so you either board up the windows or run into the basement. Boarding up the windows lead to Becky's death in this scenario but the player spends their money to save their life. And so on and so on.
to say im terrified that bloober team is going to soften james' murder bc of their history with male antagonists who have done terrible things is an understatement. at least the influx of silent hill content means i get plenty of videos to watch about it... maybe silent hill f will be alright, idm the concept of silent hill summoning itself elsewhere.
The only thing that angers me more than microtransactions in video games are the people who helped normalize them. Remember on disc dlc, and how rightfully toxic thay crap was?
Whats the difference between on-disc dlc and day0 downloadable dlc? Like, l get a difference is that you already have it on your disc instead of having to download it, but what is the functional difference between the two? l'm asking because l hear people complain more about on-disc dlc than day0 dlc, when both are functionally identical to me
@@Sponsie1000on disc means it was ready when they were constructing the game. Day0 Dlc means it might've taken more time during the disc creation process. But yeah the are functionally the same.
8:00 I would point out this isn't even vaguely how you play the song. The chords aren't even what's playing and they're not the chords they're claiming they are. It's incredible how little effort they put into this.
I wonder if they have bot accounts that weigh decisions in specific directions that people may not like in order to force people to spend money to change the outcome. This whole system is so exploitable by the devs themselves.
I once interviewed at a company that made penny slots and it seemed like a genuinely nicer place to make games than Konami, and they ended my interview after asking about nights, weekends and overtime.
Let's not forget my absolute favorite part of this... web series... You have to tune in on their schedule! That's everyone's favorite part of broadcast television right?!
It tends to act as a glimpse of the future of other industries. "You'll own nothing and be happy about it" is much more obvious in the games industry than elsewhere. Its a young industry and with a target audience that are likewise generally younger, more impulsive, and more used to the current state of capitalism as the status quo, meaning they're less resistant to scummy business practices. If you want to know what every other industry plans to do, look at what the gaming industry is doing.
@@ASpaceOstrich I think what sets it apart is when we're talking something like the housing industry, it's essential and we are often completely powerless (via money or education) against it. But the games industry is pure luxury and we *choose* to support its atrocities, to identify with it and give away our control to it. It might be a glimpse of the future, it might also be creating a new aspect of the future
My only disagreement is in using failed in the past tense when it's a continuous and ongoing failure lol. But nestled in that fact is the potential to make it better, so I guess it can be more comforting to put it in the past tense.
@@yuin3320That's how they keep us "Chasing the dragon" thinking things could get better with these shitbags in charge...unfortunately, both Communism and Capitalism are failures...corrupted by the avaricious and ambitious...and more and more it seems to be a human problem rather than a political one...as George Carlin said, "We don't even know how to take care of ourselves, we haven't learned to care for one another, and we're gonna SAVE THE PLANET?! I'm gettin' tired of that shit."
As far as I'm concerned ANY game with ANY "in-game purchases" is a scam. And I'm over it. If you can't sell your "content" on a proper damn storefront, your content isn't worth buying. No "ifs", no "buts", no compromises, no "just cosmetic" excuses, no "live service" or "supporting continued development" crap. Sell me a complete, functional product, or leave me alone.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I'm aware. And had I still been 19, with no social life, and all the time in the world, I might not have been able to pass up on buying the newest, hypiest game of the month. But I'm in my 30s now, and don't really play as much as I used to (and can't stay up all night) - so I can get months of entertainment from just 1 really good game. I have no judgment for the people who do buy into these scams - only for the people that run the scam. Under different circumstances, that could easily have been me.
@@LadyDoomsinger I get it. As previous Jimquisitions mentioned, those practices are aimed at the most vulnerable people which is what makes them especially abhorrent. I'm just baffled and depressed at the state of the industry, when even games I would like to support and like ends up dabbling into terrible practice. Overpriced DLCs that are clearly content they took away for the main games are now totally accepted, absolutely everywhere, and not even discussed when they're still as disgusting as ever. I mean, I'm playing by the same rules, because my question is more about how much of those abusive tendencies I can avoid, but that doesn't mean I have to approve
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Absolutely. And like I said, under different circumstances I might very well be one of those vulnerable people they target with these scams - I do have a personality susceptible to manipulation, I am easily tempted by impulse purchases, I'm not much of a gambler (thankfully), but I could definitely spend a lot of money on loot boxes (and have in the past) just trying to get that perfect special item that I really, really want. That is in fact the reason for my no-compromise policy - I have been taken in by these types of cons in the past, and I'm not willing to put myself in that position ever again.
I've been "engaging" with this since the premiere on the 31st. The sad part is there is SO MUCH more that could have been mentioned. I remember after the first day of content, a 90 min pre-show and about 25 mins of episode, a friend of mine and I concluded it was easily possible to make a 3 hour criticism video on only 2 hours of content. It has only gotten worse. The only reason I continue to watch is that I have to see just how bad it will get. I need to know if their UI will ever be fully fixed or work like a normal user experience. I need to see just how forced and artificially manipulated the (possibly AI written) story gets. I have to see just how terribly dull and pointless the participant actors look. I need to know if Genvid will ever get a single episode where all the right videos are played (some choices won the vote, and then the wrong scene played live... multiple times). As a side note, It seems Genvid didn't even have a basic blacklist to assist in moderation. I saw N-bombs at least twice in a chat that was flying extremely fast, racial remarks about the woman of Asian descent on the dev team during the pre-show, and more.
@@Th0rvidTheViking It wasn't even a remotely close vote. The VoDs get corrected, but it is still asinine that the live broadcast, the thing you are trying to get people to watch, is constantly fucked up.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I'm sure it can but not in a series where subtle matters. You could also influence SH2 to a degree yet the actual reason why the protag was in SH didn't change. One of the reasons why SH uh... (the one with the convict) was bad.
@@TheOneGreat Murphy oh god that game lol he wasnt even really a convict he stole a cop car to get in jail to kill the pedo who killed his son i think?
On the note of "but you get to affect the canon of silent hill" games have done this in the past already, and to much better success. For a really good example the Legend of the Five Rings card game had tournaments and the winners and losers of said tournaments and what decks they played would affect the story going forward
Thanks for covering this. As a long-term fan of SH, I'm so disgusted with this poor excuse of a video game. From what I heard SH2 Remake will have it's story changed so don't expect anything good from Bloober either. I gave up, let the series die already.
One difference with those children's books (or Radical Dreamers, or the Zero Escape series) is that you could go through every choice in the story. I doubt SH Ascension will let their audience go through all the possible outcomes by using this format.
Fear and Hunger is what happens when you take Silent Hill, Wizardry and NetHack in a blender and set it to puree. One of the best indie horror titles I've ever played, and I say that as somebody who isn't exactly a horror fan (largely because I dislike games where fear is the only emotion at play).
2:47 I fucking love the fact that the editing was timed to have your Grindr date's message saying "Haha I feel like that too" pop up as if in response to your line about SH: Ascension "inhabiting an entire other realm of disgusting vulgarity"
Somehow im less surprised that Konami made a pay-to-win choose-your-own adventure web series than i am that ive for some reason once again been exposed to Corey Feldmans Ascencion Millennium in the year 2023
So it's basically "Twitch Plays Silent Hill", only with even worse moderation, egregious monetization, and no point whatsoever existing. The "I expect nothing, and I'm still disappointed" meme was never so applicable.
Was not expecting a Lone Wolf gamebooks reference in todays show. But was happy to see it! They have been republishing the series as definitive editions if you weren't aware. 😊
oh this is actually great. konami really fucked everyone with this. i hope more people do this, and i hope they do this for non video game stuff that are mainstream. as soon as they do this to law and order the mummies at the congress will finally take action and stomp this bullshit
Can we please take a moment to shout out how the editing, especially in this episode, has really shot up over all. Not to say I haven't always liked the editing or anything but it's been really good lately and especially this one. Brilliant. Zilla is worth whatever they're earning five times over.
Remember on how almost 10 years ago we were all excited about getting a Silent Hill game made by Kojima, Jun Ito and Guillermo Del Toro, starring Norman Reedus? Yeah..
Ah, the return of #FucKonami. How can something be technically unwelcome yet still welcome? I'm glad you were having fun with this one, though. Got me smiling and laughing all the way through the episode.
I didn't even realize there was a new Silent Hill game... Konami is just really bad at... well, everything, it seems like, but in particular making sure people know about their games... and making good ones, I guess.
I remember the last time Konami put a bunch of Silent Hill related stuff out and you expressed concern they were spreading themselves a little too thin. History repeats it seems.
The fact that Genvid Entertainment's previous game Walking Dead Last Mile had the exact same monetization tactics as Ascensions, even down to the Player cameos, proves to me that this company did not learn from the former's backlash nor do they care. They're just a bunch of shysters looking to feed off of dying IPs by appealing the whalers, I guaranteed you their next project, which involves Borderlands, is going to be more of the same though I'd say having tasteless 'humor' stickers would be more fitting for that series.
To this day, it is the closest thing we have to The Room in musical form. Just shockingly incompetent and awful, in ways you didn’t think possible. And, importantly, there’s a lot of sincerity to it. It goes on fucking forever, features a bunch of his friends, Feldman really thought he cooked. And I believe that is the secret sauce. It’s hilarious
As someone who is intimidated by rhythm games, the idea of one based on the Silent Hill 2 soundtrack is the first to make me want to give it a try. Shame one doesn't exist.
7:36 Not to be confused with Kohmi Hirose - Promise which was popularized by the Goldeneye 64 cartage-tilting "geddan" dance meme. A dance meme from long before TikTok was a thing.
In the 1950s, when Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451, the worst evolution of entertainment he could imagine was a room of TV screens where you have to read the lines of a character when the cast pauses for your one line. Konami manages to out-dystopia a guy who wrote one of the defining examples of the genre. A TV show with microtransactions. Heinous.
I've been watching Nubzombie's daily streams of SH:A, and yeah...he's been endlessly saying how disgusting it is, and I fully agree. I was laughing at Ascension from the day it was announced, but fucking hell. And the new rumours about the SH2 remake are...not great. Townfall and f are the only 2 I'm intrigued by, and that'll likely change when Konami undoubtedly fuck that up.
With Konami, you should always think of the worst possible outcome, and hope it doesn't end up worse somehow. Because that one was a new low, even by their own standard.
@@meewec2091 They shouldn't be able to ruin this, right? I'm still convinced they will release it around Eiyuden's release date, because that seems like the kind of pathetic, awful idea they would have, but hopefully it won't be a total mess?
At this point I'm not even mad that publishers shove this shit out. I just want people to stop buying into it. Please. Save your money for something, anything else
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"You get to influence the canon of Silent Hill."
As if they're going to make any reference to this thing in the future and not immediately memory hole it.
It also really hits me how tasteless that notion is. Like sure, there's overarching canon and 'lore', but I've always thought of Silent Hill as a series of loosely connected horror stories EXPRESSING something. the last thing I'd think is noteworthy is the overall 'canon', it's a series that puts such a focus on its themes.
Metroid Other M says ... nothing. It's dead and rotting in its cage in a forgotten corner of one of Nintendo's sub-basements.
I think their phrasing poorly meant Ascension specifically, not Silent Hill at large.
As if "decision by committee" wasn't already the worst of all possible artistic avenues, now they're leaving it up to people who don't even have a vested interest in the series's continued viability, since if customers run their stinky shit fingers all over something they'll just move on to something they haven't ruined yet. Artists make art, consumers consume art, producers hire artists and try to make their art more consumable. There's no crossover, because each party represents a different interest. Giving producers or consumers too much power is how you wind up with Poochy the Dog.
I would not want to influence the canon of Silent Hill. I've only played 3 of the games and one of them was Downpour which sucked ass. I'm not qualified.
#ifuckinglovecapitalism :D
One bonus bit to add here: apparently, some people's votes with their Influence Points just straight-up didn't work, and their decisions were said to have failed when they shouldn't have. The game failed at the literal one thing it was supposed to do - at least from a gameplay perspective. It certainly succeeded at draining its customers' money.
I suppose Konami didn't lie when they said it wasn't really a voting system after all...
@@arturoaguilar6002 It's worse than the Minecraft Mob Vote
The transparency of the voting is something I'm curious about. Whether we find out down the road that there was no choice, just one video with the illusion of choice added in
Which would be an interesting commentary if it weren't for the monetisation.
@@DragonNexus From what I've seen on Twitter, the vods were fixed in post, but it still defeats the purpose of seeing your votes affect decisions on a live stream.
@@DragonNexus I’m willing to bet that there was no real choice, only the illusion of one. It’s like a Telltail game; you can “choose” to save a character, but next episode they’ll die anyways because the writers didn’t need them for their “story.”
Konami somehow managed to make a mobile game that is actively worse and with less gameplay than Hogwarts Mystery, I didn't think it was possible.
Ugh couldn't even get a tarantula in that game and anyway everything jkr is cursed
@@chromesthesiaHow BAD must Silent Hill: Ascension have to be for Hogwarts Mystery to be BETTER?
That is an impressively bad feat
Even the one semi-interesting idea Steph brings up is literally just...Twitch Plays "X", but deadly serious.
@@NeutralDrowClearly X really is "gonna give it to ya" just not in the way that we want.
More than angry I'm just so broken hearted. Why do they insist on making us think it can't get any worse and proving us wrong? The fact that they Livestreamed to defend the microteansactions was insult to injury too.
If RE Remakes didn't exist Silent Hill would be in a cold, dirty vault somewhere and Konami isn't even trying to hide that this is a money scheme
One particularly bad year where my family repeatedly comforted itself with the refrain, “At least it can’t get any worse,” we learned to stop saying or thinking that. It can ALWAYS get worse.
@@buruzn09 Konami really giving us the Hold My Beer treatment 😭
@@buruzn09 also I'm sorry about the bad year ): I hope things have gotten better for you all
Some of the old, classic gags have been making their way back into the show in new ways, and I’m totally here for it. I forgot how enjoyable “fuck Konami news” was.
Me too. "It's time to shit on Bethesda" as well
@@Mene0I hope there will be a transed version of the Bethesda dance that shit way hilarious
Return of Cornflakes homunculus when?
hit the lever
@@Tquintv i think we had the cornflake humunculus a few episodes ago?
And remember friends, if their previous work is anything to go by, the developers of the SIlent HIll 2 Remake are going to "both sides" James killing Mary, if not outright blame Mary for James killing her, as that is basically what they did with their game that was specifically supposed to be a Silent Hill spiritual sequel.
Also the remake is literally a movie tie-in enjoy!
what game was the spiritual successor?
@@cassinipanini The Medium, by Bloober Team
The guy who is making the movie consider silent hill 2 to be a variation of Orpheus from greek myth. He was a hero who went into hell to save his lover so I expect them to treat James as a heroic figure...
And Hades went, "sure, take your girl, just... don't look back til you're out of Tarturus"... aaand Orpheus looked back, which his girl is gone... again. And is now singing depressingly sad songs that gets on everyone's nerves.
I said that on the Silent Hill subreddit and was downvoted.
Like, why tf are you downvoting me? I'm right! They're gonna botch the whole thing, but especially James's and Angela's stories.
So I watched bobvids streaming this on Twitch and he was responsible for the Kojima tummy message. He actually got his viewers and chat to spam the Asenscion chat with that message thinking it wasn't going to work. Yet, Konami's moderation is so nonexistant that it actually worked, and it was glorious.
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Sadly Bob was probably thinking he was getting a one over on BlooperTeam. Lol
@quinnzyker6521 huh?
God bless this person and their fandom.
Bobvids is a legend and his chat are comrads
Monetizing dialogue and character choices in a cutscene is...next level.
Haven't seen that since Episode and Choices lmao
Imagine pouring tons of money in to vote for the outcome you want and then that outcome doesn't even win
I'm not informed about Minecraft stuff but isn't that what happened with the "mob votes"?
@@Damian_1989 Those votes weren't paid. They were botted.
yeah, it's called lobbying
@@Feasco banger response 😂
I mean... I'm a leftist in the United States so aside from the money part...
I've always said the best way to write a really compelling narrative is to constantly stop and ask the mob what should happen next
@@MK_ULTRA420bad bait
@@MK_ULTRA420 You don't seem to actually be _satirizing_ anything about the comment you responded to, is the problem. You just spotted the keyword "mob" and regurgitated some of the sarcasm-as-propaganda that certain kinds like so much.
It's like Konami saw how successful and well received the Netflix Castlevania series was and went: "Shit! People might expect us to start making games again instead of cheap cash in Pachinko machines!! Quick, make something so awful that it will kill any interest in any of our video game IP for a good few years!!"
It's impressive how hard they don't want to make money, and it's likewise impressive how many companies don't want to make money off of their IP.
@@Peashamcause it involves working...they hate that.
"Quick, make something so awful that it will kill any interest in any of our video game IP for a good few years!!"
I'm still convinced that was the _actual_ thought and purpose behind Metal Gear Survive.
@maybemablemaples2144 I mean, if answering a phone when someone calls to go, "Can I pay money to use this license?" is work, then yeah.
@@maybemablemaples2144Yet when we ask for a UBI they call us freeloaders (or worse... usually worse)
When a song about cummies in your tummy is a better piece of media than something produced by a multinational company and their toadies. Well done Steph! And f*ck Konami
That’s their editor what made it, and yes he’s fucking hilarious 🤣
There needs to be Maximum Profit Laws.
Or a new tax bracket with an over 100% tax rate to punish hoarding wealth.
Gamers always have the option of not being a dumbass and giving money to these motherfuckers :D
Won't happen. The world is an Oligarchy. Votes don't matter as long as the rich can buy politicians.
Never lasts. Here in the UK they put caps on bankers bonuses after the 2008 collapse. They've just repealed it. The rich never learn because the poor are the ones paying.
yes
Need to close tax loop holes first. All the big corporations aren't paying taxes.
To be honest, even if real money wasn't involved, I still think the idea of everyone voting together is a bad idea. Why would everyone voting be anything I want instead of just letting me make my choice for myself? Why would I be interested in letting random people I don't know affect how the story goes for me? Why should I have to share decisions with everyone else when most games let me make my own choices. I don't see the appeal. If I have minimal chance of actually affecting the story in any way, then I may as well watch a normal TV-series.
Maybe they were chasing after the Twitch plays Pokemon audience?
@@arturoaguilar6002 Didn't think of that. Could be a similar thing. I don't get the appeal of Twitch plays either but I know it's popular.
@@labdGIt's more an experience than anything else. You only really want to try one to see what it's about.
I agree, someone needs to make a reimagining of Ascension fast, I don't know game development myself
And if I want to please the fans, would I make it true to the teaser trailer but throwing away the current story it has and make it more found footage-esque?
This voting idea is worse than normal television. Normal TV is written by humans with a real vision behind it. This is letting the inmates run the asylum.
After seeing an article that Silent Hill: Ascension had to kill their in game chat after too many comments about "cum", I knew what Monday was going to bring. What a glorious day!
OMG that grindr pop up snuck in had me dying lol 😂
I wish that was me lol
thought it was my phone at first 😶
Oh my god, I have not waited for a Monday as bad as I have. Second I saw ascension, I knew you were ready to unload both barrels and I swear I heard Skeletor laugh in the distant future.
As you've always said, they're never happy with just some money, they want ALL the money, and I absolutely believe you are correct in thinking we will see something similar to this rear it's ugly head again in the future as other companies consider whether or not to make us try and pay per update/episode/page/whatever else have you. I didn't have high expectations for this "game," however even those weren't low enough apparently.
But Steph, that's the whole poi--oh no.
Thank you Konami for making a perfect example of everything wrong with today's game industry.
they could've released this as a little "choose your own adventure game" where everyone decides for themselves how the story should go. After all, it is safe to assume that every outcome has been written and possibly animated already.
But no, they made it the worst thing it could ever be.
Konami really had the balls to make a telltale style afventure game and make it an aleays pnline multiplayer live service. If only they had the brains to realize why it would never work.
It's like they saw that Twitch Plays Pokémon and said, "Why aren't we profiting from _that!?_"
I think it can work but need to be reworked like they could have made a normal "game" but you could connect it to Twitch or only play with your friends and have like a movie night with people voting for stuff to happen, like Cult of the Lamb, but it can't take itself too serious and make it quite small, like 30 minutes for each story, with multiple paths that can take you from scary story from USA suburbia to a space adventure, but all start in the same place like Stanley Parable.
@@TheDoomBlueShell There are about a million ways in which this could've worked. Konami just took every wrong decision possible in the making of this. Classic Konami.
Seeing how small the production value of Ascension is, I'm pretty sure that it's a success profit-wise. Think of games like Diablo Immortal. People have too much money and will throw it at anything that makes them feel better than others, including buying more votes to influence the story in a game that's essentially a glorified B-movie.
It most certainly worked. They've probably gotten 5x their initial investment from it already
The addition of Kronk pulling the lever to the usual pachinko clip is a work of art!
I was just about to say buying influence is lobbying but then Steph said it within 30 seconds. Bravo
Is it just me or was Steph super adorable in the Pyramid head costume? Like... I get that it was just a helmet and burlap sack but when she walked about it was like watching a cute baby duckling in a Pyramid helmet! I think it was the angle but it made Steph look so small!
If yall haven't already, definitely hit up Fun Co. Pop or whoever makes those little desk figurines bc a Steph Sterling collection with Pyramid Steph would be fantastic.
Top 3; Commander Sterling with crazy rage laugh face, Shy Pyramid Head, and...I won't say cornflake homunculous.... even though that's what came to mind...
Ringmaster Steph? I do like Bethesda is Naughty, but that's an older time and that wack job Jorberson is also on about lobsters.
And something something Konami is bad. Honestly, as much nostalgia as I may have about Silent Hill, I think we all know that was just a fever dream that will never return and we should probably be thankful that it doesn't, in hindsight. I don't think any of us slept well after the mannequin murder scene witnessed from inside a closet and if you know, you know, and if you KNOW then you KNOW and don't correct this. O.o
Looking at you Randal... you know what you did last Christmas...
Yeah I agree. It was reminding me of Psyduck a lot and I think the angle really made that happen.
I'd rather have a Nendoroid of Stephanie. Can't stand Funkos and their lifeless black Ditto eyes …
I really wanted to give them a hug
They are incredibly cute!
Anyone who says that this isn't going to be pushed for on the regular because it's unpopular forgets just how unpopular horse armor was. Now?
Every game has horse armor.
I hate how Horse Armour and similar DLC offerings ruined the concept of Expansion Packs.
It doesn't matter how unpopular something is if it's making company executives richer, which is all the motivation they need to make "horse armor" mainstream. The same applies to shitty products selling under a well regarded brand name.
It wasn’t the horse armor per se, it was the fact they tried to monetize what should have been a no cost mod.
@@valiroime ...do you think I was implying that having items for horses was the problem with horse armor ?
Back then, I said horse armor was stupid but nothing to really care about. Nowadays I'm against any form of MTX that uses psychology to manipulate people into buying.
I knew this was going to be a great episode when I saw the thumbnail. The fact that this “game” is still up and running is honestly absurd, and I’ll be surprised if it makes it to the end of the year before shutting down.
You made a good point about how low companies are willing to go to monetize our entertainment, and I shudder to think of the future implications of what “Ascension” has pushed the envelope for. 😬
Basically what that one sh*tty streaming app on phones does. You must pay per scene. Dumb.
6:47 I'm sorry but Shame-a-Mid head is the dumbest joke I haven't stopped chuckling at in a long time. Well done, thank you.
Yeah, right? I love it so much!
I whole thing with the glasses had me cracking up
What they could've done was allow the player to pick their own options and then set them on a path with others who chose those same options. They could then wait for the next episode to arrive so they can get people to vote on the branch that everyone gets set on going forward depending on the choices made individually. This would split the community into smaller groups of people.
For example: Becky chose to save Leon. Then zombies are causing a ruckus so you either board up the windows or run into the basement. Boarding up the windows lead to Becky's death in this scenario but the player spends their money to save their life. And so on and so on.
Ask not for whom monday comes, Konami.
It comes for thee.
But not in their chat though..
Not anymore.
this sounds like something that an indie developer would do to mock how bad Recurrent User Spending Everywhere has gotten
"R.U.S.E." lol that's a clever acronym
I mean, I guess it's time for a sequel to Loot Box Simulator.
to say im terrified that bloober team is going to soften james' murder bc of their history with male antagonists who have done terrible things is an understatement. at least the influx of silent hill content means i get plenty of videos to watch about it... maybe silent hill f will be alright, idm the concept of silent hill summoning itself elsewhere.
I'm looking forward to the Jerma clips.
The only thing that angers me more than microtransactions in video games are the people who helped normalize them. Remember on disc dlc, and how rightfully toxic thay crap was?
As shown in the video, we were angry about "horse armor" back with Elder Scrolls 4 and nowadays we wouldn't bat an eye if a game did that.
We can blame Bethesda for popularising microtransactions. Fuck them.
Whats the difference between on-disc dlc and day0 downloadable dlc? Like, l get a difference is that you already have it on your disc instead of having to download it, but what is the functional difference between the two? l'm asking because l hear people complain more about on-disc dlc than day0 dlc, when both are functionally identical to me
@@Sponsie1000on disc means it was ready when they were constructing the game. Day0 Dlc means it might've taken more time during the disc creation process. But yeah the are functionally the same.
8:00 I would point out this isn't even vaguely how you play the song. The chords aren't even what's playing and they're not the chords they're claiming they are. It's incredible how little effort they put into this.
Can't wait to hear Skeletor laugh and scream "Silent hill ascensiooooon" at the end of the year 🤣🤣
There's stiff competition this year.
AND IT STILL QUEEF SQUEAKED BY INTO #1!! #FUCK-OMANI
I wonder if they have bot accounts that weigh decisions in specific directions that people may not like in order to force people to spend money to change the outcome. This whole system is so exploitable by the devs themselves.
I once interviewed at a company that made penny slots and it seemed like a genuinely nicer place to make games than Konami, and they ended my interview after asking about nights, weekends and overtime.
In just as bad news, my phone just slid a article to me about how Silent Hill 2 remake is going to "reveal the origins of Pyramid Head."
Is it also going to reveal his big doing-doing?
@@Damian_1989if only
Let's not forget my absolute favorite part of this... web series... You have to tune in on their schedule! That's everyone's favorite part of broadcast television right?!
I know there's a lot of worse stuff out there but the game industry really makes me hate capitalism.
capitalism is usually why things are messed up
Capitalism is the thing that is causing most of the misery in the world.
It tends to act as a glimpse of the future of other industries. "You'll own nothing and be happy about it" is much more obvious in the games industry than elsewhere. Its a young industry and with a target audience that are likewise generally younger, more impulsive, and more used to the current state of capitalism as the status quo, meaning they're less resistant to scummy business practices.
If you want to know what every other industry plans to do, look at what the gaming industry is doing.
Then there's a bright side to all this hell
@@ASpaceOstrich I think what sets it apart is when we're talking something like the housing industry, it's essential and we are often completely powerless (via money or education) against it. But the games industry is pure luxury and we *choose* to support its atrocities, to identify with it and give away our control to it. It might be a glimpse of the future, it might also be creating a new aspect of the future
I love how these companies, in their infinite greed, manage to make the basic truths of our failed society self-evident.
My only disagreement is in using failed in the past tense when it's a continuous and ongoing failure lol. But nestled in that fact is the potential to make it better, so I guess it can be more comforting to put it in the past tense.
@@yuin3320Thoughts on thw argument only requires entering a failure state, not the ending of said state of failure?
@@yuin3320That's how they keep us "Chasing the dragon" thinking things could get better with these shitbags in charge...unfortunately, both Communism and Capitalism are failures...corrupted by the avaricious and ambitious...and more and more it seems to be a human problem rather than a political one...as George Carlin said, "We don't even know how to take care of ourselves, we haven't learned to care for one another, and we're gonna SAVE THE PLANET?! I'm gettin' tired of that shit."
As far as I'm concerned ANY game with ANY "in-game purchases" is a scam. And I'm over it. If you can't sell your "content" on a proper damn storefront, your content isn't worth buying.
No "ifs", no "buts", no compromises, no "just cosmetic" excuses, no "live service" or "supporting continued development" crap. Sell me a complete, functional product, or leave me alone.
If only more people thought like this, sigh...
That makes more than 90% of the video games nowadays.
I don't mean that as a rebuttal.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I'm aware. And had I still been 19, with no social life, and all the time in the world, I might not have been able to pass up on buying the newest, hypiest game of the month.
But I'm in my 30s now, and don't really play as much as I used to (and can't stay up all night) - so I can get months of entertainment from just 1 really good game.
I have no judgment for the people who do buy into these scams - only for the people that run the scam. Under different circumstances, that could easily have been me.
@@LadyDoomsinger I get it. As previous Jimquisitions mentioned, those practices are aimed at the most vulnerable people which is what makes them especially abhorrent.
I'm just baffled and depressed at the state of the industry, when even games I would like to support and like ends up dabbling into terrible practice. Overpriced DLCs that are clearly content they took away for the main games are now totally accepted, absolutely everywhere, and not even discussed when they're still as disgusting as ever.
I mean, I'm playing by the same rules, because my question is more about how much of those abusive tendencies I can avoid, but that doesn't mean I have to approve
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Absolutely. And like I said, under different circumstances I might very well be one of those vulnerable people they target with these scams - I do have a personality susceptible to manipulation, I am easily tempted by impulse purchases, I'm not much of a gambler (thankfully), but I could definitely spend a lot of money on loot boxes (and have in the past) just trying to get that perfect special item that I really, really want.
That is in fact the reason for my no-compromise policy - I have been taken in by these types of cons in the past, and I'm not willing to put myself in that position ever again.
Not only do we get a new Konami News episode, but we ALSO get a new intro for the segment
Always a good morning to eat some oatmeal while watching a new Jimquisition ep with Cmdr. Sterling tearing the sheds out of a shoddy Konami product.
I've been "engaging" with this since the premiere on the 31st. The sad part is there is SO MUCH more that could have been mentioned. I remember after the first day of content, a 90 min pre-show and about 25 mins of episode, a friend of mine and I concluded it was easily possible to make a 3 hour criticism video on only 2 hours of content. It has only gotten worse. The only reason I continue to watch is that I have to see just how bad it will get. I need to know if their UI will ever be fully fixed or work like a normal user experience. I need to see just how forced and artificially manipulated the (possibly AI written) story gets. I have to see just how terribly dull and pointless the participant actors look. I need to know if Genvid will ever get a single episode where all the right videos are played (some choices won the vote, and then the wrong scene played live... multiple times).
As a side note, It seems Genvid didn't even have a basic blacklist to assist in moderation. I saw N-bombs at least twice in a chat that was flying extremely fast, racial remarks about the woman of Asian descent on the dev team during the pre-show, and more.
Wait, the winner of the popular vote for some choices still lost?
It IS like real life politics after all!
@@Th0rvidTheViking It wasn't even a remotely close vote. The VoDs get corrected, but it is still asinine that the live broadcast, the thing you are trying to get people to watch, is constantly fucked up.
A bunch of stupid tiktok children immitating their idols
You can tell a story will be brilliant of you can randomly decide what's going to happen in it.
Hey, it can lead to some cool things! There's even examples of this in this very platform, actually.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I'm sure it can but not in a series where subtle matters. You could also influence SH2 to a degree yet the actual reason why the protag was in SH didn't change. One of the reasons why SH uh... (the one with the convict) was bad.
Do they actually reveal what the votes were? Or is it pre"planned" and they just lie about it?
@@TheOneGreat Murphy oh god that game lol he wasnt even really a convict he stole a cop car to get in jail to kill the pedo who killed his son i think?
@@TheOneGreat Downpour. Almost had ideas, but was held back by some questionable choices and the worst monster designs in the entire series.
On the note of "but you get to affect the canon of silent hill" games have done this in the past already, and to much better success. For a really good example the Legend of the Five Rings card game had tournaments and the winners and losers of said tournaments and what decks they played would affect the story going forward
Cool
Thanks for covering this. As a long-term fan of SH, I'm so disgusted with this poor excuse of a video game. From what I heard SH2 Remake will have it's story changed so don't expect anything good from Bloober either. I gave up, let the series die already.
One difference with those children's books (or Radical Dreamers, or the Zero Escape series) is that you could go through every choice in the story. I doubt SH Ascension will let their audience go through all the possible outcomes by using this format.
I've been playing Fear and Hunger to scratch the itch lately. Didn't even hold my breath for a second on Konami this time.
Fear and Hunger is what happens when you take Silent Hill, Wizardry and NetHack in a blender and set it to puree. One of the best indie horror titles I've ever played, and I say that as somebody who isn't exactly a horror fan (largely because I dislike games where fear is the only emotion at play).
2:47 I fucking love the fact that the editing was timed to have your Grindr date's message saying "Haha I feel like that too" pop up as if in response to your line about SH: Ascension "inhabiting an entire other realm of disgusting vulgarity"
The fact that we have this meme of a game is more than enough for me.
Steph and Z.Mann out here trying to make us lose NNN with this.
Somehow im less surprised that Konami made a pay-to-win choose-your-own adventure web series than i am that ive for some reason once again been exposed to Corey Feldmans Ascencion Millennium in the year 2023
I love that the Jimquisition has its own little songs now, like how Jonathan's TTWAVG has. Excellent work 🤘
It really could only have gone one way.
It's literally the video game equivalent of text in votes for Britain's got talent.
I totally read that as "Britain's Got Exit" and was baffled by that vote being done by text in a game show manner
Your costume gives chibi pyramid head somehow and I'm delighted
I mean… this is truly, realistically horrific. Effective horror that’s legitimately scary.
I love the transition from a smurf to a destroyed smurf by a baby that ate it.
So it's basically "Twitch Plays Silent Hill", only with even worse moderation, egregious monetization, and no point whatsoever existing.
The "I expect nothing, and I'm still disappointed" meme was never so applicable.
I want to see that costume more often, but hopefully for better reasons
Oh my god. Hearing about the season pass and the avatar. My brain thought, "Oh, so it's an old style FB game."
I really have been missing the FucKonami News segments. Glad to see you're shitting on them again.
Was not expecting a Lone Wolf gamebooks reference in todays show. But was happy to see it! They have been republishing the series as definitive editions if you weren't aware. 😊
I have to believe this was some sort of remnant of an unannounced NFT-based idea they had, repackaged after the failure of NFTs.
So this is a Silent Hill reality show and the viewers pay to "choose" their favorite outcome.
Who the fuck wants cosmetics in SILENT HILL
"Why are you still wearing yout glasses" "So I can see" I felt that in my soul, I wear my glasses in rediculous situations too. Lol
oh this is actually great. konami really fucked everyone with this. i hope more people do this, and i hope they do this for non video game stuff that are mainstream. as soon as they do this to law and order the mummies at the congress will finally take action and stomp this bullshit
Can we please take a moment to shout out how the editing, especially in this episode, has really shot up over all.
Not to say I haven't always liked the editing or anything but it's been really good lately and especially this one. Brilliant.
Zilla is worth whatever they're earning five times over.
Screenshotting THIS for the next round of negotiations... :P
(srsly, thank you!
God, I want to hug you (if you're cool with it) after becoming Shame-a-mid Head, Stephanie. That was ADORABLE.
Remember on how almost 10 years ago we were all excited about getting a Silent Hill game made by Kojima, Jun Ito and Guillermo Del Toro, starring Norman Reedus? Yeah..
Ah, the return of #FucKonami. How can something be technically unwelcome yet still welcome? I'm glad you were having fun with this one, though. Got me smiling and laughing all the way through the episode.
The editing work on these recent episodes is just fantastic and the song at the end made me lose my shit. Great jorb!
Thanks so much! :D
I didn't even realize there was a new Silent Hill game... Konami is just really bad at... well, everything, it seems like, but in particular making sure people know about their games... and making good ones, I guess.
Seeing pyramid head sulking was just the giggle I needed today. 😂
I remember the last time Konami put a bunch of Silent Hill related stuff out and you expressed concern they were spreading themselves a little too thin. History repeats it seems.
My thoughts exactly.
That grindr notification was *chef's kiss*
Ya lol
Just shows the chuds in the comments that we get laid and they don't~
Some people aren't preyed on: their idea of a good time is spending money so they can make other people feel poor
Damn techbros
The Grindr notification over the Season Pass was my favourite part of the footage ❤😂
wow, seems like they could steer into the skid pretty easily and just change their name to Kumnummies
If it wasn’t so fucking disgusting I would honestly be impressed by Konami’s dedication to pushing the boundaries of desperate naked greed
Genuinely haven't heard of this game, and I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that's a good thing
Because, to quote Frances Langum aka BlueGal:
"When money becomes speech, money becomes the ONLY speech."
The fact that Genvid Entertainment's previous game Walking Dead Last Mile had the exact same monetization tactics as Ascensions, even down to the Player cameos, proves to me that this company did not learn from the former's backlash nor do they care.
They're just a bunch of shysters looking to feed off of dying IPs by appealing the whalers, I guaranteed you their next project, which involves Borderlands, is going to be more of the same though I'd say having tasteless 'humor' stickers would be more fitting for that series.
Videogames really have gone to the "phone this number to save huggy wuggy from the ender dragon (tax aplicable)"
Best ending ever... Thank god for this channel.
People flooding the chat with hornyposting to the point of getting it set to permanent sticker-only mode is truly beautiful. Great work everyone
Props for mentioning all-time masterpiece album Angelic 2 Tha Core: Angelic Funkadelic / Angelic Rockadelic by Corey Feldman
To this day, it is the closest thing we have to The Room in musical form. Just shockingly incompetent and awful, in ways you didn’t think possible. And, importantly, there’s a lot of sincerity to it. It goes on fucking forever, features a bunch of his friends, Feldman really thought he cooked. And I believe that is the secret sauce. It’s hilarious
Maybe it's canonnically accurate that Pyramid head has glasses on under the pyramid
As someone who is intimidated by rhythm games, the idea of one based on the Silent Hill 2 soundtrack is the first to make me want to give it a try. Shame one doesn't exist.
7:36 Not to be confused with Kohmi Hirose - Promise which was popularized by the Goldeneye 64 cartage-tilting "geddan" dance meme. A dance meme from long before TikTok was a thing.
Every time I think Konami couldn't get any worse, they once again prove me wrong.
In the 1950s, when Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451, the worst evolution of entertainment he could imagine was a room of TV screens where you have to read the lines of a character when the cast pauses for your one line.
Konami manages to out-dystopia a guy who wrote one of the defining examples of the genre. A TV show with microtransactions. Heinous.
I've been watching Nubzombie's daily streams of SH:A, and yeah...he's been endlessly saying how disgusting it is, and I fully agree.
I was laughing at Ascension from the day it was announced, but fucking hell.
And the new rumours about the SH2 remake are...not great.
Townfall and f are the only 2 I'm intrigued by, and that'll likely change when Konami undoubtedly fuck that up.
TL;DR, for every cowabunga collection or castlevania advanced collections of the world, there will _always_ be about one or two silent hill ascensions
For a moment, I really thought this could be good. But I should've know by now that nothing good will come from Konami
With Konami, you should always think of the worst possible outcome, and hope it doesn't end up worse somehow.
Because that one was a new low, even by their own standard.
i still have hope for the suikoden 1 &2 remaster, granted that's two games made long ago
@@meewec2091 They shouldn't be able to ruin this, right? I'm still convinced they will release it around Eiyuden's release date, because that seems like the kind of pathetic, awful idea they would have, but hopefully it won't be a total mess?
At this point I'm not even mad that publishers shove this shit out. I just want people to stop buying into it. Please. Save your money for something, anything else
I wish I was a bad videogame so Steph would call me pathetic
Damn, and I thought Square Enix is creatively bankrupt!