Tetra Control from Venue Lighting - DMX wash / uplight controller with foot-switch Review and Use
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- A review and use of the Tetra Control DMX Control unit from Venue Lighting. This is an AFFORDABLE uplight / wash lighting controller with a foot-switch. (THIS WILL NOT CONTROL MOVING LIGHTS) It is pre programmed with many colors and chase patterns which can be used to add to the level of your DJ or Band light show. Quick and easy. Great for individuals that do not want to learn to program DMX controllers. Come check it out with me. It is a bit long but I do pretty much cover everything it can do.
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I work at guitar center and I watched this video to learn the products we sell.
Great info solid vodeo
LOL, that's cool. I am actually helping out with some new products that you should have in the near future. So, come back and check them out. Where is your guitar center? Im in NJ.
@@KrisSzanto
I just subscribed, I'll keep an eye out for new videos.
My guitar center is in North Houston!
We need a demo on setting channels up for multiple lighting sources that are daisy chained from the controller. Thank you!
You simply use the 4 dmx channels as listed in the video. For the best use of the pre programs i would use the 4 in a row then start over ie address ch 1,8,15,22 then next 4 fixtures 1,8,15,22 etc... explain 3:30 in vid. Let me know if this makes sense.
Do u own a tetra control? If so i would like to speak to u. Doing some research. Message me @bydesigndj or email me kris@bydesigndj.com
Hi Kris I have a tetra controller and 2 light bars. I can't get them to work properly. Pretty sure I'm just not understand the dmx channel thing. I'm new to this. Any help would be great. I'm only getting 9 of the 12 lights
@@jasonchiusano258 Hi Jason, what light bars do you have?
@@KrisSzanto Hey Kris, I just got a Tetra Control and I'm having some issues with the direct audio input. I run it with 2 Venue Tetra 6 and 2 Chauvet SlimPar along with a set of Both S4 uplights. Happy to help you with your research in exchange for a solution for my issue LOL
How did you set up your dmx addresses in this video? Can you just tell us what setting each light is on so we can copy the set up.
What lights do you have?
Thanks so much for all of your help. I finally got my ADJ Mega Tripar Profiles to work so I can now setup a nice light show with 8 of the Tetra 12s, 6 of the Venue Tetra Bars, 8 ADJ Mega TriPar Mega Profiles and 8 of the Venue ThinPars. Nothing fancy but more than enough for a great light show in my band. It's too bad that it won't work with some of my speciality lights but I honestly don't have time to set them all up anyway. This thing is great and really easy to use thanks to you.
Ha! Finally something better from them. This was my first lighting fixtures when I started my small lighting production company back in 2014. I usually get local musicians and DJ's looking for easy to use lighting controllers.
thanks for watching
No yellow. Still can find a bunch of nice settings that cycle through with no yellow, so it doesn't suddenly go black between colors that do work. The strobe broke pretty immediately, hopefully just the button. It is in the shop now. Way cool not to mess around with DMX. Great for small band/solo. Brightness control, speed control, Nice! I really need the strobe.
Good information. My band has 2 4bars and various floor lights with dmx inputs. Drives me crazy everything just randomly flashing. This sounds like a simple solution.
Thanks for watching. Before buying just make sure you know if your lights are compatible. If u need help with this just send me the name / model of your lights and I will try to look up the manual to make sure. Some people did not listen too cloesly to the part around 4 min in. Have a great day Paul. Can also dm me @bydesigndj
@@KrisSzanto thank you we have 2 of the Chauvet dj fourbars and 2 Chauvet slim par 56s I also have 2 Rockford battery powered floor lights that are similar to the Chauvet slim 56s pars. All have dmx in/out jacks.
@@Bluewaterboy ok, the bars will work if set to 3Ch but all lights will respond the same. The 56s also in 3ch mode will work and not sure about rockford. Rockville? Most will work as long as the dimmer and strobe channels arent included in the mix on the fixture. I would try to see if they would all be able to be put in 3ch mode and I would address them from left to right d001, 008, 015 and 022.(this will make yetra controls chase patters look correct) Then repeat the ones you want to be the same.
@@KrisSzanto Hey Kris.... I have an older Chauvet DJ 4 Bar (non-usb model). What I'm getting out of this comment is it's best to run in 3 Ch mode? I'm DMX illiterate LOL. Right now I control the 4 Bar with the Chauvet Obey 3, but I'm looking to be able to do a little more (maybe?). I like the audio input of the Venue, but if I want to go solid color I like the Obey because I don't have to turn a knob.
Very tempting price for easy control of your up lights and booth wash lights
Awesome review! We just picked one of these up, very eager to try it out
Thanks for watching and let me know what u think.
@@KrisSzanto 4 months later... we love it! VERY easy to work with and simplifies so many things on stage. Anyone doing their own lights and wants to get a good show without a lot of cumbersome work, this is the one. Thanks again!
@@WrongTurnMusic330 Awesome. That is great to hear!
Hi. Let me know if we can talk about your tetra controller. Doing some research and need aome opinions. Ease reach out @bydesigndj or kris@bydesigndj.com
Thanks! I just ordered one from MF at a discount.
I really do appreciate your review. It was helpful in my decision. I also found some cheap lights that worked well with this controller. It took 3 Chinese brands to find the one that worked correctly with this unit. Shame on me for saving a buck. Believe me, it was the lights and not the unit. It's a great asset.
Great content. Love your reviews. Good stuff.
Thanks for checking it out and commenting.
Woow I'll buy it today =) thanks for the SUPER INFO
Looks like a great job you did on the video keep up the good work
Thanks buddy!
DJ Kris Szanto anytime
Kris, I'm just looking to control the Kinta FX with a wired controller and maybe adding another light in the future. Nothing more. Small set up.
If I have 4 tetra bars and this controller what settings do I need each light bar in to work all together? I'm so new to this and completely green. I already have all 4 daisy chained but not sure what mode to put each bar in and also is their a setting the controller needs to be in also?
Hey, thanks for watching. You have a couple of options. A bit to much to type. DM me on instagram @bydesigndj
Thanks. I would like to have something like that for musicians.
Thanks for watching
Hello- is it possible to do 2 color static uplights with this unit. Ie. 8 lights blue & 8 lights green?
This doesn't work properly with the cheap amazon dmx par lights. The amazon lights designate channel one as the dimmer channel, but the tetra only works with lights where channel one is designated as the red light value. I setup 4 par lights on a tree, i can get a few blinking light patterns, but no blue leds work, and like only two moods are accurate. The backout button seems to work. Also the kinta mini does not work with this. Would be awesome if tetra could make a v2 with the option to assign the rgb channels within each bank.
Venue is working on a upgraded version. The new version should work with some moving lights and effects lights. It will work off of 4ch i believe.. but similarly the lights will have to be rgb ch 1 2 3 4 no dimmer strobe in those ch. Pretty much like this unit.
Hi I'm thinking of getting one of these, has this been a reliable product
Hi, thanks for watching. Yes, this is a reliable product. You just have to be sure it will serve your purpose. You also have to make sure that your uplights or wash lights are compatible. This is not for moving lights. Lastly there are rumors that Venue is working on a more advanced version of this which will work with some of their moving fixtures. No idea when that wpuld be though.
If i use one wireless dmx send and then have 11 fixtures on receivers, that would work, yes? It would automatically divvy them up to be different sections as far as the chase patterns and such are concerned? Or would i need a separate device to tell each light what to do? Thanks in advance!
Basically this controller works in banks of 4. You can send the dmx signal to as many wash lights as you want as long as they are addressed to 1 of the 4 channels. (1, 8, 15, 22) Each bank controls up to 7 channels depending on the fixture and settings you choose. You must make sure that your dmx channels do not include dimmer or strobe. Check you manual...most dmx wash lights first few channels are dedicated to colors and that is what you need to use this great liitle controller.
I just purchased the tetra control and I have venue revolver laser and for some reason the lights don’t turn on but the laser works and all the movement works
Does anyone have any tips
The Tetra controller is not intended to work with moving lights. However.... there is a new version coming out that will work with the revolver. (TETRA 2) I am sorry I am not sure exactly when it will roll out, but the final testing is happening very soon. I hope you were not mis informed by anyone.
Hello, does the unit color mix on its own?
Thanks for watching. Im not exactly sure what you mean. It has a bunch of preset colors and patterns. So I guess... yes. It does create colors such as purples, pinks, shades of blue etc.. but it is not unlimited.
@@KrisSzanto thank you!! Exactly what I need.
Is there a way to control lights individually. As in, can I leave my facade lights in, but turn-off the lights in my t bar stand?
Not with this controller.
Where could I find some cheap FX lights that would pair well with this? Most of the ones I'm finding the channel scheme would not be a fit.
The Venue 6, 12 and tetra Bar? Remeber this is for wash lights... not fx lights.
great video and the dmx program o console but, for me it’s to much, because when you be in the venue we don’t have time to manipulate the console.
what is the led power amount on each led..???
I did a video on the lights also... I believe the Venue lights are all 4w leds.
So are all these lights daisy chained off 1 master? 4 rockville motionstrips and 2 china laser lights. Would like to run the laser light separately from rockville. Just wasn't sure how your lights were set up. I have purchased the Tetra and am waiting for it to show up.
Sorry, just saw this. This controller will not work with the lights you mentioned. Sorry. You might have learned this by now. This is for a non moving lights. The light alsocmust not include dimmer or strobe in any of the first few channels... must be colors on first channels.
So you daisy chain the lights together ? Then into the controller ?
Yes, just like any dmx controller. But as stated in the vid you only use the 4 dmx addresses I mention. In that order for the best effect
@@KrisSzanto thank you !
According to the manual, if you press the Cycle button and Power On, it should bring you into the settings. All it does is say Exit when I do this. Any idea? I have done a factory reset but it didn't help.
@@danielroos5426 What r u trying to accomplish in the settings? Sorry.. once you are in there you rotate the knob to go through settings.
@@KrisSzanto I'd like to expand my colors from RGB to RGBA. Also, I'm just concerned that I can't access the menu. Seems like it must be broken unless there is a way to reset. It shouldn't simply go to an Exit screen.
@danielroos5426 When you see EXIT rotate the knob counter clockwise for menu options.
@@KrisSzanto Thanks so much.
Wow!!! Great video!!! Do you have a video setting up the wire connections f
To the tetra controller?
Sorry, Im not sure what u are asking. But if u are asking if it is any different when using actual dmx cable then no. It is done exactly the same. Just wire from unit to closest light then daisy chain them. The dmx Address is what matters.
Awesome channel.. can I use this with a wash light like the chav wash hex units.
Thanks for checking it out and commenting. U would have to check the hex manual to if the dmx setting allow you to use a channel mode that does not have unit dimmer or strobe. Usually a 3 or 5 channel option. (ie - channels 1,2,3 are Red, Green, Blue)
Does this only work with Tetra lights? I can't get this thing working on my Eliminator Furious 5 or The ADJ Starbusrt light
I've been sitting here for 20 minutes messing with this thing amd it doesn't change colors on these at all
It literally does nothing 😑
It works with many brands of lights.... but as noted in this video it doesnt work with moving lights. Sorry, hope a salesperson didnt lead you the wrong way. Its more for up or wash lights. Also there are specs for how the lights dmx profiles must be for it to work. So not all lights are compatible.
Looks great. I wish it had wireless capability.
Thanks for watching. Just add a small wireless dmx dongle and your good.
@@KrisSzanto I don't own the unit yet but I was told by Venue support that it won't work with a wireless transmitter.
I'm not understanding how to set DMX channels so chase Left to Right etc - mine are all doing the same thing (I'm new to DMX , go easy on me! haha
1,8,15,22. These are the channels you want your fixtures to be addressed to. On the back of your lights click menu. Usually the letter d in front of 3 numbers represents the dmx address. Under this setting make one light 001 then press enter. Next light change to 008 then 015 and 022. Then when you select the chase patterns that say L to R they should go in sequence. Let me know if this helps. If not we will get on phone or zoom. Good luck.
Hey Bud, I hooked up 3 betopper rotaters and set the 1st on d001, then 2nd on d008, and the 3rd on d015...i can not get the lights to respond correctly ..the colors are not what the dialer says and they just seem not to be the right codes or something...can you help me..
@TheFishFactoryLive9218 Sorry, this unit is not intended for use with moving lights. It is for wash lights and not necessarily any. If you want to control moving lights, this is not for you.
@@KrisSzanto Crap...I went to hook it to a single Blizzard Puck static light and I cannot get the colors to show..what am I doing wrong?
@@KrisSzanto like, red is the green and ocean is nothing, no yellow ..I would like to know if I have a bad unit!. This one was sold as used by Guitar Center...
@@TheFishFactoryLive9218 try the puck in 3ch mode
I’m having trouble getting some of my Amazon ordered LED parts lights to work with this system. They are very erratic & do not light up correctly.
Do you have specific brands other than Venue tetra lights you can list?
I do have them on the correct dmx channels.
Any help would be appreciated.
The lights are most likely not compatible. The channels you are using probably have the dimmer or strobe channels.
You mentioned “over seas” lights in your setup. Could you specify what they are or another Venue Tetra compatible Par LED? Thx for the quick reply! 👍🏻
Can you click it back into sound mode from
Foot pedal
It doesnt actually have a sound active switch on the foot pedal. You have the presets, strobe and blackout. Obviously if you were active in sound mode and made foot pedal changes it would remain in sound mode. Does this make sense? But remember the controller is so small that it can actually clip onto a mic stand. Super Handy for many. Also... rumor is that they are in some early stages of adding a higher end version of this unit. Not sure what it will offer yet, but rumor is more flexibility for other types of lights like movers or fx lights + static lights.
Thanks for the video. What channels are you needing to set your dmx lights to? Also, I’ve got some older 4 bar systems, do you think they will work with this system?
Hey thanks again for watching. All the info is in the vid. Refer to about 3:30 for dmx addresses.. as long as u can set the fixture between 3 and 7 channels and those channels do not include a dimmer or strobe channel u should be good. Most fixtures dmx addresses are colors first. For example dmx 1,2,3 (rgb) Let me know if u have any other questions.
Can you do another video with a quarter jack connected to booth out so we can really see what that puppy will do on sound chase
@@perry677 I will try to set that up soon.
@@KrisSzanto, thank you, good job.... but as a "sound guy" for 20 yrs, I've avoided lights like a plague lol, cause there's always a lighting team. I am completely lost!! Got 2 ( same) fixures being controlled. But instructions were vague for a beginner, witch I believe this is designed for. There's alot of details about diff fixtures and how they are ran. I.E. some require hold while press, and I don't know ANY of the lingo,like CC,PL,Sd...... and they seem to have a impact. Do I adress a ch or setting while dmx cable is in or.....
@@macepriestley9403 @Mace Priestley hey, thanks for watching. Hope you had a great Christmas. Alot of what you mentioned is explained in each instruction manual that comes with each fixture, but if you are going to use them with dmx.... most of them do not matter (cc, pl, sd) Most of those reference pre-made colors, fades, sound active modes and such. But you have to look at the manual as they may vary by manufacturer, but do tend to be similarities. Dmx CH selection can generally be done at anytime. Just dial in the address and press enter. When it comes to dmx there are loads of djs who dont want to know anything about it, just want to push a remote and have a light show which is fine. But for me who likes to have a light go to a door, the center of a dance floor, or a cake when I want.... dmx is for me. Please let me know if this helps or if you have any questions. Always happy to help via phone as well @bydesigndj ✌️
Hey, my friend! Great video! tell me if you can help me... im with some Chauvet Colorstrip mini... im having dificulty seting up the dmx part... do you have some tips? it looks like the dmx configuration of these bars are really different... thank you anyway
Hi. What are you using them with? Trying to use them with Tetra Control?
@@KrisSzanto yes :) they are compatible?
@_lolalana_ I'm sorry, I had to find a manual for those and they will not be compatible. Looks like their first dmx channel is a color chasing mode. (Won't work correctly with Tetra)
Could I use this DMX controller with a Chaveut DJ Swarm 5 FX 3-in-1 Derby/Laser/Strobe Effect and DJ Swarm 5 FX 3-in-1 Derby/Laser/Strobe Effect? Want to make sure this suppurts these lights before buying. Thanks
Thanks for watching some of the video. This is not a controller for those types of lights. You will want a regular dmx controller for those. This is for non moving, par, wash or uplights.
@@KrisSzanto ok awesome. Could you recommend a moderately priced dmx controller for my lights roughly in the same price range?
@@matthewfreeman33 Sorry i missed this message. Any dmx controller will work as long as it has enough channels (most do) This in expensive one works fine th-cam.com/video/DetjcLviGAg/w-d-xo.html although I prefer a software based program.
Hey man, great vid. Just bought this controller but could you tell me if it has the capability to control two separate banks of lights and how you do this?
Thanks for checking it out Danny. Im not 100% sure what you mean, but I think you are looking to have 2 seperate outputs? If so, there is not a way to do it. The unit basically operates 4 fixtures, but you can not independently operate them. They are pre programmed. The only way to get some different options would be to just dmx particular addresses. Like skipping one. Does that make sense? This controller is great for making quick easy shows with decent, easy control.
setting first the dmx lights instructions would be very helpful, and do you have to set up each gig or it has menory? thanks.
This unit is pre-programmed. It has pre made patterns and colors. You will not do any programming. Did you purchase tetra lights? What are you using it with? This unit is for wash or uplight style lights, but does not work with all of them.
thank you so much for your help.
I just bought it and practiced with 2 cheap fixtures, In order to understand better DMX. mission complete. now looking for the correct lights ( preferred spots- any suggestions?) for a one-man show. the presets are fine since all I need is some simple scenes, one color at a time.
thanks again@@KrisSzanto
Can you give the photo of the colour chart please
Thanks for watching....it is in the video at 14:18. 🤔🍻🤘
@@KrisSzanto it is not too clear too see and its to small
Make sure u have the vid set to 1080p and take a screenshot. If that doesnt work email me at info@bydesigndj.com and I will send u a scan
@@KrisSzanto alright thanks man may God bless you always🙌🙏
" Hey Captain Chris, I love it, please tell me that this really great set up work's with movers, I've got spider's, gobo's, just need to know if it work's with movers " !!!
I am sorry Kenn, this is only for wash type lights. I did not try a mover with it, but as per the instructions the channel must NOT include dimmer or strobe. They are really only designed to change color channels. I imagine that a mover would go crazy on it because channels 1-7 would probably be going 1-255 and effect the movement before getting to a gobo or color setting. NOT SUGGESTED. LOL... but this is a $100 or so product and does what it is supposed to rather well. :)
@@KrisSzanto , Thanx's for the quick response, I think I still might purchase one, Not only got a Jamm room full of blacklights , strobes, spider's, gobos, ect... I also play guitar and got many guitar pedals and I love anything with a Foot Switch, LOLOLOLOLOLOL...
THANX'S
Hi! Just grabbed the Tetra with some generic RGB DMX 512 lights. Having trouble programming them. Any codes or order you could share? Really bumping my head on this one
@wlkofphaim Thanks for watching... I am hoping you watched this before buying. The generic lights you purchased, do the.first few dmx channels have dimmer or strobe in them?
@@KrisSzanto yes I did! Waited until after seeing your video actually 😅Nope I turned the dimmer and strobe off
@wlkofphaim That's not what I am asking. I am asking in the generic lights u have. The dmx profile - what are the first couple channels? Ch 1, Ch 2, Ch3? Send me names of the lights or a pic of the manual with the dmx profiles. Can send @bydesigndj on insta or kris@bydesigndj.com I will see if you lights are compatible.
@@KrisSzanto you gotta it
What kind of mounting clamps are you using for the tetra bar? Thank you for your help.
Thanks for watching. 2- O Clamps. You can find them easily online. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thank you. Great review btw!
I have the tetra control and the tetra bar. this is my first lighting ever, and I'm really struggling to figure out how to set it up. I wish this video actually showed what you do on the tetra bar once you connect it. I get that you need to use channels 1, 8, 15, and 22 but how do you do that? the menu on the tetra bar makes no sense to me. I'm so confused, and the colors are all wrong.
I figured it out - I did not see the part in the manual where it says there's a tetra control MODE hah... so for anyone else who doesn't read manuals very well, it needs to be on 1-28 and d-1.
Use a dmx cable to plug the Tetra Bar and Tetra control together. Then set the tetra bar to "i 28" then "d 001" enter. This is best way to control Tetra Bar with Tetra control. Let me know if you gwt it to work. :)
I was typing at the same time. Lol. Let me know if you have any other queations.
@@KrisSzanto thank you! this was a case of me getting excited to get it going and skipping important info in the manual haha
@@delicate.mascara Sorry i mention it at 6:16 in the vid, but didnt get into it. Glad u figured it out. 👍
Mine lags when I’m using Dmx but when I add the quarter inch it’s perfect anyway you can help me out ?
I dint understand what your having an issue with.
Great review! Can you save your own custom presets/scenes and switch between them with the foot switch?
No, You can not. The pre sets can not be altered. You can only adjust speed, fade, brightness etc..
@@KrisSzanto thank you so much for the info
I am a guitar/singer with a drummer and we just bought 2 ledbars and 2 led pars, all dmx-compatible. We want to control our lightshow ourselves.
With the footswitch, can you easily turn them all to blue, then (on next song) all to green, then all to white, then launch a preset which could be shower-effect on ledbars , or this kind of effect, and then simply select all blue, and so on... ?
@@oldschoolgeek4199 I'd reccomend the Chauvet DJ foot-C2. I got one and love it.
Any chance of showing how Donner wireless works with this? I can't get it to work.
Hello again. It seems that all fixtures need to be in the same channel mode from what I can tell. Meaning that if I have a set of fixtures that are just RGB, I need to set all fixtures to RGB (3 Ch mode). Is that correct? I'm asking because I have the Venue TriStrip 3z and I can't get it to work with more than one color at a time. Is this a limitation or am I missing something?
That is what i would do because it will keep the color mixing more consistent.
Would it be a great thing to get 2 tetra bars for tops...and 2 more for side fill area or uplight.?
It's like having 4 separate par lights in one..correct?
Thanks for watching. I do love the tetra bars. Of course it would be great to have 2! I would like them for side fills more than uplights though. It is kinda like 4 but u cant spread them out like 4, you know what I mean?
@@KrisSzanto awesome...yes I was thinking of getting 4 pars but I'd rather plug in power for one unit than 4 separate units. Thanks again for your input. Have a great and safe weekend. I'll give you an update.
Hello received my Tetra bars...DUDE!!! these - are - awesome!!! with Venue controller...man I'm lost for words.
Great stuff man. As always ...thank you!!
@@Mdnesseptx Have fun!
What channels are these set on? I have the same exact set up. Please someone help me I'm dyslexic. I will pay you.
This is in the video at 3:44. 001, 008, 015, 022. These are the 4 channels you will use. But first you need to make sure your lights will work with this. What type do you have. If they are compatible you will want to set them to 3ch or 5ch mode most likely.
I bought one and tried getting it to work tonight. I have a number of various types of lights including Chauvet, ADJ and Venue. I'm setting it up in my office so I just brought 3 Venue Thinpars up and connected just one for now. I set the light to 3 Channel and once pressing Enter, d001 appeared so I pressed enter. The only thing that is working on the light is when I press All On, Blackout or Strobe. I've tried turning both the Preset and Color/Mood knobs and also clicked on them but nothing happens. Any ideas what I'm missing?.
Oh, it also looks like the sound active function is kind of working. It changes color but only in shades of blue. I'm sure I'm missing something simple but I don't know what it is.
Hi, did u figure it out. Sounds like you are set up correctly. 3ch and 001. I dont know if you need to press enter or not on the thinpars on the dmx channel. With the ALL ON button lit. You should be able to change colors by turning and pushing color knob. (Dimmer up, cycle off) Using a dmx cable? Not a speaker/mic cable? Transmitter?
@@KrisSzanto So, I need to push the All On button to get the colors to change? I didn't try that. I'll give that a try. Thank you.
Do you have all the lights daisy chained together? Or a dmx splitter?
Thanks for watching. I do daisy chain them, but usually use a wireless transmitter and wire some non wireless fixture to the wireless ones. 1 universe. Understand?
@@KrisSzanto will it still do a chase if you have the Tetra hardwired to the master and wireless to the slaves?
Got the Tetra bar 12, love it, very bright, love the way the lights will fade color across.
But I put my 2 Chauvets in 3ch mode, one addressed to d1, the Tetra at d8 and the 2nd Chauvet at d15. When I put the Tetra bar in 28 ch mode only 9 of the lights work. I went through all the ch options and the only way all 12 lights work/fade/strobe as they should is in 3ch mode. Kind of a bummer since I like the look of 3 lights working in a group but not a deal breaker.
Actually thinking of selling the older Chauvet and getting a 2nd Tetra bar. We'll see what happens.
Thanks for all the answers, appreciate it!
The bar should work in 28 ch just fine with the tetra control. It needs to be addressed Ch 001 to work in 28ch mode. Try that. See the controller is only putting out 4 sets of 7ch... so by starting at 8 you are losing the last set...makes sense. :)
@@KrisSzanto Figures I did something wrong. But if the Tetra Bar is the center fixture on 8 of 1/8/15 now would it be 008 and change the one that's 15 to something higher like 36?
Hope that question even makes sense.
@@chrisashenberg5188 that's up to you. The Tetra bar in 28 ch mode uses 4 sets of 3 lights individually on the bar so essentially operates as all 4 fixtures in 1. If u want to use it as 1 light u can leave it the way u have it. Understand? If u use a chase pattern from tetra control for instance that goes from right to left the first 3 lights will then be followed by the next 3 then the next 3 then the next 3. Like 4 lights are lined up. You can only address your lights to 1, 8, 15 or 22 to use Tetra Control. You can use them in order but if you have 3 lights I would probably use 1 for the first 2 lights and 8 for the 3rd light. Try different combos and see what works best. You can always start with them all on 1 and see what u think. That would be cool because 1 and 3 would do the same thing, but the tetra bar in the middle could do the same on some but have a variation on chases. Have fun.
@@KrisSzanto I guess I'll have to try changing those channels, I must not have asked the question correctly because I was just asking if that would work, LOL. So I'm allowing for 28 channels on the Tetra, with 3 lights I have the position is kind of a "must be there"
@@chrisashenberg5188 That option for the Tetra bar is what I think stands out about the light, but you can always use it like you were as 1 solid fixture. (No rules, just fun lighting)
Please help, I have two tetra bars with a tetra control, they only produce solid colors on each when I hooked it up to the tetra control. ( they do fade and somewhat does the different chases, but they don’t have multiple colors on each bar, like shown in the video.) I might have set them up wrong but idk
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Thanks
Would they work with moving heads or?
Thanks for checking out the channel. These are NOT for moving heads.
So I have this controller, and before I purchase a venue Venue Revolver Wash Dual-Sided Moving Head Effect Light with Wash and Moonflower i checked with Venue Tech support to make sure this would fly - they said yes. I received the light yesterday and low and behold it doesn't work with their controller.
Would this work with moving heads?
Hey thanks for watching. This is not for use with moving lights.
So I asked some dumb questions before, why not try again? LOL
I got the controller and had some time to play with it last night. Found that one of my Chauvet 4 bar LED's does not play well with it. It doesn't seem to have the ability to strobe or fade. Since I can get the other two (much newer and were wireless) to follow those patterns I'm pretty sure it's the old light.
Will the Tetra bar 12 play nice in 3ch mode with the Chauvets? I'm assuming so since they seem to follow the controller in 3ch mode.
You should be fine. I prefer the Tetra Bar in 28ch mode. This essentially splits the 12 leds into 4 sets of 3 as in the video. I am sorry I am not familiar with the chauvet 4, but as its 3 ch dmx should be ch 1-3 rgb it should work. You mentioned it was older, so maybe the dmx channels are different than what i found online. "Shrugs Shoulders"
@@KrisSzanto So, in response to you. I'm seriously considering getting the Tetra Bar to replace the older Chauvet that hangs center stage/back. So I would put the other two Chauvets that work with the controller in 3 ch mode and the bar in 28 ch mode? Or is that not possible. Sorry for so many questions but I'm beyond new to this. Always just used the pedals that came with the Chauvet pedals that came with them. And those pedals suck, they're the definite weak spot.
@@chrisashenberg5188 yes that is what u would do. If you do decide on them and order them online, please use my link. Lol. If u go to the store... enjoy. 👍
@@KrisSzanto no problem with your link since the nearest GC is over 1 1/2 hr from me. Do I get a discount? LOL
@@chrisashenberg5188 I wish I could get people a discount. As of right now I don't have enough reach. Maybe someday. So... the price is the same and I get a small commission (2%) I think. I'm hoping to get a new car by 2041. Lol
I have 2 light bars with RGB, 1,2,3, and 2 other light bars RGBAmber, 1,2,3,4,...
Would this work?
Are you able to set the rgb to 3ch mode? Can you set the rgba to 3 or 4ch mode?
@@KrisSzanto the RGB bars start with Ch. 5, 8, 14.....
The RGBA, starts with Ch 6, 9, 16.....
If I put them all at A001 they will display the same exact colors, correct?
@@Mdnesseptx u have to check to make sure that none of the channels have a dimmer or strobe function.
@@KrisSzanto you are so awesome for replying..I checked...none are assigned to dimmer nor strobe. With that said.. now they would be in sync, correct?
I bought it!! It is so awesome...but I noticed the 3rd and 4th bank only have base colors.
I'm using 2 wash bars on the floor (both bank 3)...
and the 2 wash bars on the top (bank 1 and 2)...solid show!!
Hi DJ Kris: I just purchased the Venue Tetra Control and Tetra Bar. I can't figure out how to get the control unit to communicate with the light. Could you please explain
Thanks for checking out the video. Plug a dmx cable from tetra control to th bar. On the tetra bar u will want to set the menu option on the back to CH22 press enter. Then use the arrow until you see the "d" it probably says 001. If so just press enter and leave it alone. If not, scroll untill it says 001 and press enter. This is the only value that will go from 001-512. This is the dmx channel. Let me know of it works.
@@KrisSzanto how do you set it to CH22
When I hit Menu, it toggles to D, I, U, NANU. I don't see CH22
@@markjackson4273 sorry... my mistake. Its been a while. Set the "i" to 28. I is the number of dmx channels, most companies designate it as CH. Sorry about that.
@@KrisSzanto Wow I still can't get it to work
Will it work with chauvet moving heads?
Thanks for watching. This will NOT work with moving heads. It is for non moving lights. Best used with wash lights, uplights or pars
Hey DJ Kris, Could you do a video on the Revolver laser (Tetra) and the Tetra Controller... I seem to be having problems
Sorry that you are having problems. I am guessing that you are trying to use the the tetra control for the little mover. As I explained in this video, Tetra control does NOT work with movers it is intended for uplights, wash lights, pars etc.. how do you like the Revolver? I have never seen it.
@@KrisSzanto It's an incredible little light that puts on a show all its own. Thanks for the quick response.
Sorry, dumb question but new to the DMX thing. Will this unit work with 3 Chauvet 4 bars? And would I be setting them all to address "d 1" and than daisy chain them?
Thanks for watching. I am not sure which actual lights are on the bar. If their channels are set up as described in the video they will work. If they do I would address each of the 4 lights differently for best effect. 001, 008, 015 and 022.
@@KrisSzanto I know I can menu in and set up d_1 through d_512 but not sure that's the same thing. Wish I could find someone that at least said they'd tried this setup. The footswitches are the definite weakspot
in 3 ch mode, 1 is red, 2 is green, 3 is blue
In 15 channel mode
1-control mode
2-dimmer
3-strobe
4-red 1
5-green 1
6-blue 1
7-red 2 and so on up through blue 4 on ch 15
Not sure that helps
@@chrisashenberg5188 thanks.. it does. It should work for you in 3Ch mode. :)
@@KrisSzanto Tempting now, I wonder what the limits of my patience are LOL
Thanks
Kris, can you use this controller with the Kinta FX
Thanks for watching. This controller is for wash lights, uplights and such. It is not intended for any type of moving lights.
Kris, this was the controller recommended by the salesman AT Guitar Center in Pittsburgh. Which DMX controller do you recommend then for the Kinta FX. The IRF controller does not respond well for my satisfaction. Thanks for your input. Ron
@@rwd52 Sorry Ron. The best control you can get with any dmx light is a dmx controller. This is a simplified controller for wash lights. I guess that sales guy needs to read the manual. Dmx has a learning curve and thats why little controllers like this one are popular. Any dmx controller will work, its just a matter of how many lights you want to control, how many channels you will need and some programming features. Are you looking to control more lights than this one?
Hey! I just bought this controller and 5 of the lights for my church. I have no experience with lighting. Can I have white lights for the stage area and colored lights for the backdrop with one controller and daisy chained lights? Channels and addressing and all that are seemingly over my head.
Thanks for any help!
Hey, thanks for watching. This is not the controller you want for the purpose you mentioned. This is more of an automatic type light show. You would be better of with a basic dmx controller. If you want send me a message @bydesigndj on insta or fb tomorrow and I can give you some info. Check out my video on basic dmx. Also a basic dmx controller will save you a little money if you can return this.
@@KrisSzanto Good to know! I will reach out tomorrow. Would appreciate any advice!
@@KrisSzanto I think I found you on FB and sent a message.
Is this available without the footswitch?
Hi, I do not believe this version is available withought the foootswitch. You do not need to use the footswitch, or attach it. They are currently working on a newer version which will have some minor control of a couple of their small moving lights. (On off/pre set patters) I do not know the release date or if it will come with a footswitch or not. Either way, if you are interested in using this one for wash lights as intended (doesnt work with effect or moving lights) its a fun little unit. Also, it does not work with all wash lights. Works with Venue lights and others if the profiles are a certain way as noted in the video. 🤘
@@KrisSzanto aaaah thank you.thought i was a bit late.hahaha.stuck here in south africa.this is the easiest little controller i have seen for a small venue.just thought that it would be cheaper without a controller. Our rand/dollar exchange makes things very expensive here.thanks for reply.
How do we setup a Circus 2.O or a Gig Bar 2 ? Can’t find anything on the internet, great video by the way 👍🏽🎶
Hi Israel. Thanks for watching. You will have to know the dmx information for the fixtures. Easiest thing is to download the tetra control manual and give it a quick read through. I give quick explanation at 4:08.
@@KrisSzanto Awesome thanks so much 🙏🏽!
@@IsraelMaldonadoMusic Hope you were able to find the info you needed.
Hi, I wanted to ask if this will control two of my light bar fixtures that I purchased and have been having difficult time programming. I Purchased two LaLuceeNatz DMX 512 light bars that are 5Ch/12CH/14Ch/75Ch. Will Tis work with these lights. the Lights themselves are awesome but can't figure out how to control the lights other than through Auto or sound activated modes. Appreciate your feedback or comments.
Hi Chuck. I would have to see the manual.... do you know if the 5ch is free of the master dimmer or strobe function? Are the 5 channels all color controls? Sorry gigs all thia weekend.
@@KrisSzanto Hi Kris. here is what the manual says under 5CH Channel, 1CH - 0-255 Total Dimming; 2Ch 0-10 Closed light. 11-255 strobe, speed from slow to fast; 3Ch 0-255 , 7 combinations (value 3); 4Ch 0-10 closed light, 11-200, 35 effects (value 5), 201-224 voice control effect, 225-255 sound sensitivity; 5Ch 0-255 effect speed. I am clueless with this. BTW I called venue and they just gave me the corporate responce in that they would not commit to computability with any other light manufacturer . Only compatible with Venue lights???
@@djchuck49 Thanks for the info. Tetra control will not work woth those. It sends info to those channels thinking they control color. Are you currently using a regular dmx controller?
@@KrisSzanto Hi Kris. No I bought a DMX controller but couldn't figure out how to set up and returned it. Was hoping there was something easier.
Hey man great video. Can it be used with a d-fi to standard par led lights?
Thanks for watching. I have never worked with a di fi unit, but if it just accepts a dmx signal and broadcasts it, it shouldn't be a problem. The Tetra control sends out 28 ch of dmx info. 4 banks of 7 and should be set up as ( Ch 1, 8, 15, 22) As long as your fixtures dmx ch settings do not have any layered function such as master dimmer or strobe you should be fine. Basically if your fixture designates ch 1, 2 or 3 one of those functions this will not be a good fit. Let me onow of this answers your question.
@@KrisSzanto so if my lights DMX channels 4, 5, 6, 7 are brightness, red, blue, and green respectively, then this will not work for me?
@@Dynadude10 Channels 1-... need to be colors. ex CH1 red, Ch2 Green, CH3 Blue.. You can use your fixtures dmx CH setting up to 7ch as long as one of the channels is NOT something like master fader or strobe or a channel that would effect every channel. Please let me know the fixture that you have and I will look up the manual and see to avoid confusion. lol
@@KrisSzanto Pyle PLDJLT44 lights
@@KrisSzanto I also see where venue has a moonflower. Does it work with the controller too? Interested in selling any of the venue products you have that work with the controller or giving me the name brand of par lights that you have that will work with it?
Hey Chris can I hook in my GigBar?
Thanks for watching... I am not sure what the dmx set up is like for the Gigbar. Form what I can see, i do not think it would be a good fit because if the derby style light. I think it would be fine with the wash lights. Sorry I cant be 100% sure about it.
I think I might get the wireless dmx to make that work. 4am thoughts lol.
When I change color to red/blue. It stays red. Does not project red/blue. Help!!!
How many lights do you have hooked up?
@@KrisSzanto just the one Venue Tristip 3Z
@@designraving Sorry, you will only get one color with that one light. The Tetra Bar has a function that will allow you to get up to 4 different colors in one light. (This is because it was designed to work with tetra control) I think it is the only light that will do that. The tetra bar has a 28ch option that basically receives 4 seperate sets of 7 channels. I was just looking at the triz manual online (i have never seen the light) I can see where the confusion would come in. Its dmx does have the 3 "zones' which can be controlled with a regular dmx controller in 9ch mode. The Tetra controller sends signals in sets of 7...up to 7 then the next light would be receiving on ch 8-14 etc...
@@KrisSzanto dang it. On the bar itself. I can change it to 3 colors but I can't change it with the controller :/
@@designraving Sorry buddy. If you want one light to work with it, Tetra bar is the one.
Will this work with chauvet wash fx?
Thanks for watching. I do not believe that unit will work with this controller. Please refer to page 8 in the manual here...
venuelightingeffects.com/wp-content/uploads/manuals/Venue-Tetra-Control-Manual.pdf
How would this work with lasers please
Thanks for watching. This unit will not work with lasers. It is made for wash lights/par/uplights. Non moving. Also it does not work with all of them. There are certain things you will need to know about the dmx set ups of the lights. It does work great/easily with Venue wash lights.
@KrisSzanto thanks for the quick reply. I am new to DMX so I'm looking for so.ething that will work with x2 Kam Ilink RGB 500 lasers and two cheap RGB moving heads. Is there anything you would recommend please?
@markan79 There are a number of possibilities. You could use a regular fader type board, computer based or standalone. Depends how much you want to spend and how much time you want to dedicate. Also how much control you want. How many channels of dmx do the movers use? How do you normally run your lights now?
@KrisSzanto at the moment I'm they are just being run master/slave via DMX cable using the supplied remotes for both the lasers and movers but I'd like a bit more control over the colours more than anything.
Hi again, What's the special setting on the strips that you were talking about on channel 1? I have 6 of them.
If you have Tetra Bars you want the max channel mode.
@@KrisSzanto Thank you.
@@danielroos5426 Let me know if u get everything working correctly
I think it’s all working. Thanks so much
Everything seems to be working. I've only hooked two lights up so far but I think I get it. Pretty easy once I pressed the All On button. This is going to be awesome for stage. We won't need a light man anymore. Thanks so much for your help.
Can I used any led lights or I have to get the same brand
Other brands can be used as long as the number of channels used does not include strobe or dimmer. Explained at about 3:30 in video. Let me know if you understand.
Thanks Kris!
I know you say it will not control movers but can you still just blackout movers?
Thanks for watching. I am not sure. Lol. It is not designed to work with movers so I have never tried. Maybe I will plug one in later and try it just for the heck of it. But O dont understand why you woild want to do this. It is my guess that you would hope you could just turn of the light from running in auto. Problem is the unit will be sending other info and that will not allow auto to be on and controlled through dmx.
@@KrisSzanto i want to know this too did you try it? ....love the idea of controlling other fixtures - blackout n strobe on footswitch as I sing but my fixtures have built in programmes could just set to auto snd to light n plug em all in n blackout thats all i wanna know does it blackout a moving head fixture n strobe ...there is no individual control of lights? just all on all off kinda thing? or would i need 2 in order to seperate some fixtures
I am sorry I have not tried it, but knowing that it will be sending other signals to it there will be no way for you to control the moving head or put it in auto mode with the dmx signal coming from the controller.
@@KrisSzanto Auto mode is on the fixtures themseves though ....All I wanna do is black it out or stobe it usually these are on the first 2 address things on dmx ..which is why this thing has dedicated buttons probably ...would love to see if it worked my MH fixtures to blackout ....f hard singing playing guitar and doing lighting n dj ing ....i have peddles coming out my arse as it is ....but this thing would make life much easier if it worked so if you get time could you test it if you have it still please Kris....I know you do the the cheap fixtures and I actually have some I like n wanna controll these are the equinox spectra battons - you should review em on your channel buddy they are quite good effect n v cheap. this controller would do them i think dunno ... the others are the chuvet hex - and two decent moving heads - I have a laser but thats controlled on i pad - its too much crap to control really with everything else going on I need a need a solution I do dj but hate it - sold my soul as everyone quit because of covid - so do a bit of everything.now ....i f hate dmx need a footswitch solution if you could check i would be grateful ....thanks.
@@byromtaylor6482 the fixture can not be in auto.. and dmx at the same time. The tetra control unit will send info for channels 1-7 and it will not let the auto modes work. Think about what those first 7 channels are. Pan, tilt, dimmer, Strobe, etc... sorry it will not work.
Can this be used with wash movers
This is * NOT* for moving lights. Thanks for checking it out.
@@KrisSzanto one last question would it work just to change the light color on a moving head wash light?
@@seanmiller1498 Most likely not. This unit sends signals to up to the first 7 channels in which most par fixtures relate to colors. The moving head fixture probably uses those channels for movement, dimmer or strobe. DMX signal just sends a value to a certain channel, that channels function is whatever the manufacturer set it up for.
@@KrisSzanto thanks I have very little understanding of DMX and that’s why I was looking at this controller
@@seanmiller1498 I understand. Happy to answer questions.
Hi again, do you know if this will work with lasers such as Chauvet Scorpion RGB and or Swarm? Also, moonflowers like a mini Kinta?
Thanks for watching. Im sorry it will not.
Hey... I dont know how much of a hurry you are in, but there are rumors of a new unit in development from Venue.
So, pretty much standard Par style cans only? It’s okay regardless. I have 8 Venue Tetra 12s, 8 ADJ Tripars, 6 Venue Tetra bars and 4 Chauvet DJ Wash lights as well as 8 Venue Thinpars. I think those will make a pretty nice show
@Daniel Roos Yes, that is what it is for. 👍 Just check the manuals to make sure the first dmx channels dont have strobe or dimmer.
@@KrisSzanto Well, I already bought one and am pretty happy with it. If a new one comes out with the capability of controlling rotating heads or lasers, I'll definitely pick one up.
Have some questions. Anyone using one of these.
Hey Mike, I just finished up an email for you. Check you in box. :)
Thanks for the convo
@@mikebinder745 No problem, always happy to help out if I can.
Sent another email
Will this unit work with those Chinese Wash moving head lights ?
It is not for moving lights. This is for wash lights that do not have master dimmer or strobe in the first 3 or more channels, only color channels.
Thank you, how about those Chinese 4 light par bars?
@@thecompanyentertainment550 I am sure there are many similar lights. You would have to know which ones then check out the dmx profile and see if the first channels (at least 1,2 and 3) are only for colors. Example Ch 1 Red, Ch 2 Blue, Ch 3 Green etc.
@@KrisSzanto thanks Kris very good video. I have the unit but haven’t had any luck with the lights I have. Im going to buy a few new wash lights. Can you recommend other lights instead of the tetra ones looking to buy about 8 don’t want to break the bank :)
@@thecompanyentertainment550 please message me @bydesigndj let me know what lights you have. Manufacturer, model number or whatever u can. Then we can see if it is a set up problem or compatibility problem.
Can you use it with moving heads??
No. This is NOT for moving heads.
@@KrisSzanto it wouldn't change the color of the lights? I don't mind the moving patter but i like the automated presets in this controller
@@carlos97828 depending on the moving head, but most likely not. This unit basically sends info to the first 7 channels. Most moving heads have those channels for movements in my experience.
@@KrisSzanto thank you for your fast replies I'm gonna buy it and see if it works if not even for mood and up lighting is looks awesome
@@carlos97828 make sure the uplights u have or use will work with it. They can not have master or dimmer in the first few channels. So you want them to have at least 3ch rgb first or rgbwa
When will you upload again
Hi Carl, I have a couple videos in the works. I have been kinda in a slump lately. The pounding my business has taken due to shut downs has had me a bit down. Thanks for watching and thanks for asking about more vids. Hope all is well with and yours.✌👍🎤🍻
@@KrisSzanto oh it's fine we will be back to normal soon when we get a vaccine. I hope your doing well yourself stay cool and awesome 👌
Any idea why I'm not getting any blue?
What lights do you have? Are you on the right dmx channels?
@@KrisSzanto I'm using the dmx channels specified in your video. (Thanks for that, I was lost) as for the type... they are not actually branded and I bought them off of someone (new in boxes) cheap. They say claim on the one sheet of instruction that they have 7 channels. On rgba or rgbw the blue lights came on... but none of the colors match what the control says and the "red" "blue" or "green" all on have no colors at all.
@@jasonhuntoon6595 do the instructions list what each channel does? Is there a master dimmer or strobe inuded in those channels? How many channels of control do you have the light set to?
@@KrisSzanto so yes they list them. Looks like my set had channel 1 at dimming. That apparently is throwing everything off and creating a bit of a mess.
@@jasonhuntoon6595 Yes, as I state in the video and as stated on the bottom of page 8 in the manual this unit unfortunately will not work properly with that fixture.
i own this and some lights from different companies...essentially, this device promised DMX for dummies...but here you spend most of the time showing how awesome it is, and not much about what happened when you plugged them in and they did not behave properly...my experience is that sometimes things work and sometimes they don't...I'm about 99% sure the issue is the setting on the lights against the setting in the controller....which to this day does not seem obvious at all. right now, I'm back to what most musicians that own lights do, put it on sound control and call it good enough /sigh
You didn't show the most important part.
> How you address the lights/make a non Venue light work with it<
You have to make it recognize and understand the lights before you can start programming! (The number one reason people have trouble w/DMX lights)
Thanks for commenting. The addressing is the same... it is more of a matter of if the lights are compatible. If you have multiple lights, (4) you have to address them 001, 008, 015 and 021. They can not include strobe or dimmer in the chs used.. so you may be looking for 3ch options 4ch or 5ch options depending on your fixtures... refer to the manual of your fixtures and the tetra control fixture. (This info is all in the video) Sorry if you did not find my video informative enough. I should make another video as i know they are in development of an upgraded version. People reach out to me often with questions and I am happy to help.
Help. Really want to use this Tetra controller but Im having trouble getting blue. Im using cheep U king lights. What light setting will get me started accessing all the colors? Im only getting red & green. All the variations. Just no blue?
Hi JP. Sorry your having difficulty. Do you have the manual for the lights? Does it list what each dmx channel does and does it have channel operation options such as 3ch, 5ch, 7 etc?
@@KrisSzanto i cant post the pic, but I believe u king leds are 7ch?
I doesnt go through individual colors. I have white on white, but none of the other colors match. Nothing on red or blue. I get green on pink and red on yellow blue come through with white, but no individual blue?
@@KrisSzanto light manual says ch4 controls blue.
@@jessepmathews I am guessing though that the first channel is a master dimmer or strobe? As I say in the video, the tetra control wont function with lights that have the master dimmer or strobe in the first couple channles. So I am guessing this is the problem. Sorry there is no work around for this. Many light allow you to change the CH options to where the first channles are basic rgb or rgbwa etc... but alot do not and I think uking is set to 7ch only.