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  • @SpeakOnFS1
    @SpeakOnFS1  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

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  • @monteztaylor547
    @monteztaylor547 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Lamar was top of his conference both times when he got hurt..

    • @daddybondrewd
      @daddybondrewd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      His worst season he was 7-4 before injury, idk why he's gotta catch strays from a conversation like this lol. Not to mention, if he wins the MVP and SB this year he is without a doubt better than burrow and allen, they don't need to act like he's leagues behind because of a couple injuries and losing playoff games before he was even 25 years old.

    • @Ogoseaux
      @Ogoseaux 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Burrow is way more injury prone

  • @jesusarambula3174
    @jesusarambula3174 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    Can someone tell Joy that the Bengals are eliminated from the playoffs

    • @SlimeNews
      @SlimeNews 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      🤣

    • @peacemaker9279
      @peacemaker9279 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😂😂😂😂

    • @hotrodgo4it55
      @hotrodgo4it55 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      She will find out.. lol they probably told her right after that in her ear piece..lol

    • @bamfordblue6853
      @bamfordblue6853 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Lol Joy don't know football.

    • @Elion004
      @Elion004 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      As a Bengals fan, there’s always next year. But for this year, Go Browns

  • @blakeee3810
    @blakeee3810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Lamar didn’t miss the playoffs last year
    He was 8-3 team still made it thoe.
    The year before last he was 8-3 when he went out with a injury but his team fell short to playoffs

    • @ohhyeahhbaby1
      @ohhyeahhbaby1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He wasn’t in the playoffs last year…, he was injured

    • @micah.1009
      @micah.1009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Had them like 8-4 2 years straight after being injured late in the year . If that was Josh Allen or Trevor the media would be on their knees

    • @crystalballers
      @crystalballers 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He wasnt in playoffs last year. Doesnt matter because he loses twice as often as he wins in playoffs. Do the math on likelihood of 3 straight - not good.

    • @blakeee3810
      @blakeee3810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@crystalballers MVP

  • @almightyderic527
    @almightyderic527 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The Lamar disrespect 😅

  • @DevilsWarGameplay
    @DevilsWarGameplay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    It’s not all Josh Allen’s fault. Just like it’s not all Tua’s fault.
    Against the Patriots when they lost, Josh Allen scored a TD, they got the 2pt conversion and left 1:58 on the clock with a 3-point lead. The Pats marched down the field on the Bills DEFENSE and scored a TD to win.
    The Broncos moved the ball on the Bills DEFENSE and got in position for the game winning FG. They missed the FG only to get a second chance because of 12 men on the field.
    That’s 2 games they could have won. And we would be sitting here looking at a 12-4 Bills team.
    Same thing with the Dolphins vs the Titans. Tua had the Fins up 27-13 with 4:34 left on the clock. The Titans came back to win that game. If the Fins won, they would still have a lead on the Bills.
    QB’s get all the blame and all the glory.

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It is Josh Allen fault that they are in this position to begin with week 1 vs Jets 4 ints at home vs Broncos 2 of the Bills 4 turnovers

    • @DevilsWarGameplay
      @DevilsWarGameplay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Never mentioned the Jets because he did play terrible. The games I mentioned the Bills had the lead. The Bronco game would have been done if not for 12 men on the field. Was Allen the 12 man.

    • @DevilsWarGameplay
      @DevilsWarGameplay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Plus Allen had 3 INT not 4 vs the Jets

    • @diggerblair7460
      @diggerblair7460 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's my thoughts to everyone of those games Josh gave them the lead with 2 minutes left and defense couldn't hold against the eagles had a 10 point lead going into the half so not all his fault

    • @kangeastwood1463
      @kangeastwood1463 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Qbs get all the blame and the glory that don't mean its correct lmao. I hate how people use that as an excuse to blame them like brody you're a sports analyst you're job is to be correct not just be like I can blame them because they get all the glory.

  • @demondesires865
    @demondesires865 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Tua needs it to prove he is a NFL QB this Collapse is not helping his case even with the help he is getting.

    • @ivespoken8902
      @ivespoken8902 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yes, for morale ONLY but the problem with that is even he Tua and the Phins lost, they are still going to the playoffs and can make a run and change the narrative BUT if Josh lost, and the circumstances didn't bode well for them from other teams in the AFC, he will be at home watching the playoffs.

    • @razbegin
      @razbegin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Really tho? Tua is #1 leader in yards passing, with his rushers carrying 1800+ yards. We used to say Marino had great numbers because he had to throw. Running with an 11-5 team. I kind of call this Tuas 2nd year. His first 2 being somewhat detrimental to him, his 3rd being half a season (top QB stats when he played) and now into the playoffs, again yard leader. I actually think Hill's (I love him) call for 2k yards hurt Miamis offense.

    • @ivespoken8902
      @ivespoken8902 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@razbegin agreed

    • @leanonme1065
      @leanonme1065 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@razbegin how Hill 2k yards can hurt the phins?

    • @PatrickTuriano
      @PatrickTuriano 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      An NFL QB? Really? Still?

  • @Wardell.Koloi10037
    @Wardell.Koloi10037 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Obviously for this season, it's Josh Allen. But big picture, it's Tua. Everything fell on his lap and he has to beat the Bills

    • @kevonsidek9737
      @kevonsidek9737 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah this is the most important game of tua’s career thus far so he has to win this game

  • @James-e3m4x
    @James-e3m4x 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    YEA Joy should have known Bengals are out of playoffs in fact if they get beat by Cleveland it’s the first time since there first season in league they will get swept in division

  • @MrBaldinho11
    @MrBaldinho11 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    “Oh.. you flip flopping”
    Had me dying

  • @andoversandlot8491
    @andoversandlot8491 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ocho was cooking because when they talk about Lamar they definitely don’t add context for him missing the playoffs for sure !!

    • @smulaula
      @smulaula 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *Acho

  • @Philly.267
    @Philly.267 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Acho right Miami had a 3 game lead but it come down to Sunday they better win .

    • @SlimeNews
      @SlimeNews 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Um no. The bills better win or they can miss the playoffs🤣 wat r u thinkin lol

    • @kevonsidek9737
      @kevonsidek9737 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SlimeNewsnigga that’s only if the Steelers win and they are not beating the ravens so the bills hood regardless dolphins need this win more

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SlimeNewsThat’s Josh Allen’s fault

    • @Philly.267
      @Philly.267 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SlimeNews clown if I had a 3 game lead on you I should win the division

    • @gregtrust5599
      @gregtrust5599 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Philly.267no Josh Allen single handedly cost the bills multiple losses, Tua hasn’t cost the dolphins any losses. Miami is the most injury riddled team and their defense has been atrocious. Tua is getting paid regardless, he is the pro bowl starter and Josh didn’t even get selected

  • @finsfirstnetwork74
    @finsfirstnetwork74 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You talk about 3 injuries for the Bills... Dolphins are missing 9 starters and playing with 3rd string O-line

  • @DcRavens
    @DcRavens 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Lamar Jackson is and always has been better than Josh Allen. Bout to win his 2nd MVP in 4 years and they still talking about turnover machine Allen at 2 lmao

    • @youtubeistryingtocensorme
      @youtubeistryingtocensorme 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      2nd mvp in one of the worst statistical seasons in a long time for a mvp

    • @myapatterson8228
      @myapatterson8228 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dude got 1 playoff win and is 2-1 against Allen lmao

    • @tsjohnson5
      @tsjohnson5 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@myapatterson8228 I mean he didn't play the entire fourth quarter in their playoff head to head. So be real here. Also has Allen made it to the AFC Championship? A Super Bowl? An MVP? He got as many rings as Lamar and (almost) two less trophies. Objectively one of these QBs is better.

    • @nickelcityyt4026
      @nickelcityyt4026 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tsjohnson5Actually, Lamar played a good amount of that game. We shut him down. This is when people were questioning if Lamar could give more in the passing game in a running offense. He's never been better than Allen. Running yes. Absolutely. Throwing? Stop it.

  • @davidberger8420
    @davidberger8420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Why aren't they mentioning that football is a team game. Getting into the playoffs, making the Superbowl and winning it is never accomplished by one player alone. This is what makes football so great and hard to predict because of this aspect that these sports analyst clearly aren't taking into account in this conversation.

    • @PandasRViolent
      @PandasRViolent 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Same reason Brady and Mahomes get all the credit for winning. QB gets all the glory and all the slander, not fair but that's just the way it is.

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But the quarterback has to be the main reason why you get into the playoffs

    • @marqueshartley9321
      @marqueshartley9321 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m not true Browns are going to make it starting 4 different QBs. 49ers made it to the NFC championship game starting 3 different QBs. The team as a whole is what matters most.

    • @deneendipippo6967
      @deneendipippo6967 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed

    • @GForce9x
      @GForce9x 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marqueshartley9321 you make a point, but look what happened when they lost their QB in that game. They could have maybe lost Deebo or CMC instead and still had a chance. When Purdy got injured, their odds of winning that game became almost nil and definitely became zero once their 4th string was hurt.
      It is a team game, but the QB is by far the most important piece. How many times have we heard that 'such and such team is a quarterback away from making it to the Super Bowl'? (and we've actually seen that in recent years with the Buccs and the Rams). You never hear that phrase mentioned with any other position.

  • @braddahdude
    @braddahdude 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It’s amazing that the Bills started 6-8 and are now 10-6.

    • @AreolaGrande94
      @AreolaGrande94 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      check that math.

    • @mroverdose14
      @mroverdose14 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They got 2 losses taken away by the "media darling effect"

    • @dagroovydude116
      @dagroovydude116 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AreolaGrande94 @Acho

    • @bcamm3100
      @bcamm3100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How do you go from 8 losses to 6???

    • @ivespoken8902
      @ivespoken8902 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      math is not mathing lmao

  • @PatrickTuriano
    @PatrickTuriano 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    How are injuries a caveat for Josh but not Tua. Bills have lost two great players to IR this season and a rotational DT. They are fully healthy with regards to their current 53. The Fins have lost two pro bowl caliber pass rushers, a pro bowl caliber center and another guard to season ending IR. And for this game, they’ll be our starting corner, backer, WR.

    • @vcghostgamer852
      @vcghostgamer852 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Injuries never get talked about with the Dolphins. Just they aren't good. Unless they win and then the narrative changes to they are unstoppable. Smdh

  • @o4tw382
    @o4tw382 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Joy “I’m with Shady” Taylor never has smoke for Dolphins but has smoke for every other team

    • @JustinPartlow-m6z
      @JustinPartlow-m6z 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She's a dolphins fan...

    • @o4tw382
      @o4tw382 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JustinPartlow-m6z Shady’s a bias Eagles fan but at least he’s honest when they’re bad

    • @chrisalvarado3601
      @chrisalvarado3601 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Joy “I’m with shady” Taylor 🤣 that’s facts !!

    • @Ogoseaux
      @Ogoseaux 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s not like anyone can be with Acho. James Jones has some solid takes thoug

    • @elgisthomas8791
      @elgisthomas8791 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She's a Miami fan but has also had smoke for Tua and the team at times

  • @mgp9733
    @mgp9733 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Again, more Lamar disrespect. Potential two time MVP with one of the best winning percentages still considered inferior to Josh Allen and Joe Burrow, all of whom have zero Super Bowls. Keep feeding the beast Speak fam.

  • @Philly.267
    @Philly.267 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sunday gone be lit .

  • @James-e3m4x
    @James-e3m4x 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Josh needs to win obviously for a lot of reasons but Ocho has a point

    • @Philly.267
      @Philly.267 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      3 game lead yeah he right Miami better win

    • @kevonsidek9737
      @kevonsidek9737 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Philly.267fact they blew a 3 game lead and now they are in danger of losing the division they need this win more than the bills

    • @MSF8637
      @MSF8637 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He makes a good point but the fact remains that the Dolphins have already clinched a playoff spot whereas the Bills have not. The Steelers are playing the Ravens who will be sitting Lamar Jackson. As flawed as the Jags are, they are still likely to beat the Titans. If that happens and the Bills lose, they don’t even make the playoffs.

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MSF8637The Ravens need to play Lamar for at least one half

    • @emileawoudi4265
      @emileawoudi4265 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mI won’t play him

  • @daffyduck616
    @daffyduck616 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Stop the cap! What has Joe Burrow and Josh Allen really done? They cool, but i don't see anything that puts them over Lamar. Put some respect on his name.

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Can't you say the same thing with Lamar? What has he done? You guys love to tear down other players to put Lamar above them lmao.

    • @K1NGJayy3
      @K1NGJayy3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree, cause the yr the bengals went to the Super Bowl, Lamar sat out after week six when he tweaked his knee trying to play for his contract, Deshaun Watson was injured and the Steelers were just around. Joe burrow had free rein over the division for 2 yrs due to massive injuries to the other teams. If we being real we all know if Lamar played that game against the bengals in the playoffs then they don’t sniff a superbowl that year. And Josh Allen is just a product of Stephon diggs cause everyone was ready to kick him out the league before they went and signed Stephon

    • @blakeee3810
      @blakeee3810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@larry2281Lamar led the league in td passes 1 year and won 1 mvp, on the way to 2. What has burrow or Josh Allen done ? Lost a Super Bowl and lost a shoot out conference championship game ?

    • @blakeee3810
      @blakeee3810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@larry2281 only thing allen has done is led the league in turnovers.

    • @davidberger8420
      @davidberger8420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blakeee3810 Also leads the league in total touchdowns with 42 and is the the first QB in history to have 40 or more total td's in 4 consecutive seasons. Hes done more than you think he has. Dudes not even in the top 25 all time when it comes to most turnovers in a season.

  • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
    @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Josh Allen needs it to stay in the playoffs and Tua needs it to prove that he’s a franchise quarterback

    • @MrJpaynebb
      @MrJpaynebb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the Bills lose and miss the playoffs far more people will be at risk than Tua losing. Allen who many considered the #2 or #3 best QB in the league missing the playoffs means jobs are at risk. Sean McDermott is at risk of getting fired for missing the playoffs this year. Can't make a run if you don't make the playoffs which is a strong possibility if they don't win.

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrJpaynebb So when the quarterback keeps on turning the football over constantly, it’s the head coach and OC fault or the defense or the receivers? Got it 👍

    • @nickelcityyt4026
      @nickelcityyt4026 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mBro Stop. You keep naming 2 games when there's 15 others. Dude broke another NFL record and we talkin about his turnovers costing games. You can count on one hand how many games he's lost us with turnovers, and you'd have to go back to last season to keep counting 😮😂😂😂😂

    • @gregtrust5599
      @gregtrust5599 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nickelcityyt4026Tua hasn’t cost any of the dolphins losses, Josh cost his team at least 2 L’s. On top of that, Tua is the pro bowl starter and Josh didn’t get selected. The turnovers have been a problem he has one every game, plus his stats are a little bit inflated because of his rushing TDs, 2 of them last week were QB sneaks from the 1 yard line, while Tua is the passing leader. I think Josh could use a better HC than McDermott anyway

    • @nickelcityyt4026
      @nickelcityyt4026 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @gregtrust5599 That's false. Tua cost them 3 games. KC in Germany, Buffalo week 4 and last week vs Baltimore. Nobody cares about the pro bowl. Tua gonna play flag football and dodgeball. I don't think Josh is too upset by that. Turnovers can be a problem, but nobody ever puts context to the numbers. A few of those INTs were off of a WRs hands. A few others were long, down the field passes like hail Mary's. Like, I can pick apart your entire argument, but you'd have to watch the games in order to see what I'm talking about. Most people just watch the numbers.

  • @nicholasbelanger9373
    @nicholasbelanger9373 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Acho always find some way to hate on lamar.

  • @Cali2FRESH1
    @Cali2FRESH1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dolphins in playoff don't mean anything if they can't get the win vs Bills.

  • @yeniguslij
    @yeniguslij 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Go Bills! I will take Josh any day with the good and bad over any other quarterback.

  • @anthonyturner3986
    @anthonyturner3986 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    ‘In 2021 Lamar missed the playoffs at 8-9’. Lamar got hurt early in week 14 and they were 8-4. Lost 5 straight without him lol. Just for record Pitt made the playoffs at 9-7-1. Some of these takes are awful and seem so misinformed. Used to be good when Wiley was on here bringing actual stats and facts.

    • @Ogoseaux
      @Ogoseaux 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s Acho. He be leading with some trap questions and the football IQ isn’t statistical for anyone up there atm. Wiley, Rich Bucher, the r someone more by the numbers and history is needed in a place of Acho

  • @Mars-pn1up
    @Mars-pn1up 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Allen over lamar?.....stop it

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ? Allen has been better than Lamar every year since 2020… stop it

    • @Mars-pn1up
      @Mars-pn1up 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@larry2281 lmao

    • @almightyderic527
      @almightyderic527 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@larry2281stop the cap. Lamar had the ravens as the number 1 seed both years before he got hurt. 🤣 with less receivers and one year over 20+ people on IR, stop putting them in the same category

  • @bobTHEHOUNDkelly
    @bobTHEHOUNDkelly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like how your greatest asset is your availability... unless the player doesn't play well when he's available.

  • @arunkrish106
    @arunkrish106 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Why couldn't have this segment been who they think will win and why? That would have been an interesting debate!

    • @finzblazin
      @finzblazin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Would you really put your money on Miami? Bills going to ground and pound - similar to Eagles outcome I feel like

    • @rafaelisslaam1894
      @rafaelisslaam1894 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bills are better than eagles now@@finzblazin

    • @Johnthegreat15
      @Johnthegreat15 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I honestly enjoyed this segment more tho

    • @elgisthomas8791
      @elgisthomas8791 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​Same Bills that almost lost to Easton Stick? Haha😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@finzblazin

    • @elgisthomas8791
      @elgisthomas8791 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@finzblazin the same Bills that struggled with Zappe? Yet you are so high on the Bills..in Miami? 😂😂😂😂

  • @SlimeNews
    @SlimeNews 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Acho keep saying Lamar went 8-9 when he got injured. Is he nuts??!! That year Lamar was 8-4 and the week before his injury, had the Ravens as the #1 seed. Every last one of these shows are told to 💩 on Lamar. They all the same evil. BS im out. Unsubb

  • @jamaljones9951
    @jamaljones9951 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the show keep up good work

  • @NFLtherapy10
    @NFLtherapy10 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So Josh allen has had to overcome injuries but tua hasn't hmmmm.FINS UP

  • @smulaula
    @smulaula 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4:20-4:24. So many great things? What great things? No MVPs. No SBs. No 5K passing yard seasons. No 50 TD season. Etc…

  • @JonKlinkel
    @JonKlinkel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why would that even be a question when Miami is going to be in the playoffs, either way?

  • @RageDaug
    @RageDaug 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The win is very important to Josh because of what folks will be saying for the next several month while waiting for next season to start.
    The win is very important to Tua because it could easily impact his contract and legacy.
    As important as it is to Josh, the one game has more impact to Tua's career.

    • @SwampusMcGarniglus
      @SwampusMcGarniglus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      sounds like the dolphins should want to lose, They could use an excuse to not pay him as much or their other playmakers are going to disappear. Rookie contracts ending is a B

    • @gregtrust5599
      @gregtrust5599 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SwampusMcGarniglusTua is getting paid regardless,he’s the pro bowl starter and put his team in position to win, they are also the most injury riddled team and have a suspect defense. Tua hasn’t cost any of the dolphins’ L’s, he is the pro bowl starter and already had a great season. That would be stupid to try to lose, what kind of mental gymnastics is this? He is a top 5 QB in the league

    • @SwampusMcGarniglus
      @SwampusMcGarniglus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gregtrust5599 it was sarcasm.

  • @asundelgun3487
    @asundelgun3487 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Its definitely Tua because the media guzzles Josh so much that even if they don't make the playoffs he still may get MVP votes

  • @Vboy123456
    @Vboy123456 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I feel like joy contradicts herself all the time. Hahaha. But that’s just me.

    • @garbagecandan5613
      @garbagecandan5613 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When did she contradict herself?

    • @rudolphpieters7918
      @rudolphpieters7918 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The contradictions are the JOY in watching these segments.

  • @jasperg6772
    @jasperg6772 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Allen can lose and still make the playoffs. Tua needs this win more imo. There is no doubt that Tua and the dolphins will have a better chance at beating GOOD teams at home. If they dont win, theyre out in the first round

    • @jimaltenbernd376
      @jimaltenbernd376 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Other way around Miami is still in it if they lose,bills possibly out if they lose

    • @jasperg6772
      @jasperg6772 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jimaltenbernd376 that's exactly what they said. Yes, bills are definitely in if they win but they can also make it if both they and the steelers lose. They're talking like it is a definite the bills won't make it to the playoffs if they lose which is not the case.

  • @ladavionjohnson
    @ladavionjohnson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    How is Lamar not 2nd

    • @ohhyeahhbaby1
      @ohhyeahhbaby1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bet their logic is “playoff wins”

  • @Khali_Onwheels
    @Khali_Onwheels 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Acho get off Lamar’s meat bro the media always bring up Lamar can’t stay healthy that’s why he miss the playoffs blah blah blah he always making excuses for these other guys

  • @jeffreycooley2032
    @jeffreycooley2032 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I only focused on Joy Taylor. She's gorgeous

  • @jdtalks8023
    @jdtalks8023 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bills in the playoffs scary

  • @bankslaw8900
    @bankslaw8900 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the 21 the Ravens were the number 1 seed in the entire AFC when he got hurt.

  • @doityourselfrcdrew6807
    @doityourselfrcdrew6807 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why do all these talking heads put Allen on such a high pedestal? He leads the league in Turnovers every year he’s played! I understand he throws a lot of touchdowns but, how many games has he lost because of the picks he throws?! How many times has he put his team in jeopardy because he hears all the hype about being a generational talent! He does have skill but he’s reckless with it!

    • @jamesmueller4058
      @jamesmueller4058 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fam somebody’s lying to you, Josh Allen is not leading the league in turnovers

    • @jamesmueller4058
      @jamesmueller4058 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe just one year he played if that

  • @SS-Tommy
    @SS-Tommy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    James is awesome.

  • @danielheinlein6741
    @danielheinlein6741 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everyone is talking about bills injuries but all of miami star players are hurt or out for the season

  • @o4tw382
    @o4tw382 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Joy looks like she sees ghost any time someone calls out the Dolphins

  • @SlimeNews
    @SlimeNews 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Achos take was so horrible, really. He putting a contract over the playoffs when Miami is going to pay Tua anyways. And Joy cooked him with the playoffs/injury except for Bengals part and he just looks away

  • @brandoscreamo
    @brandoscreamo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    last i checked, burrow and allen have ZERO mvps while lamar is a unanimous mvp and is probably gonna win his second this year….. no shade to burrow or allen but the lamar jackson slander needs to stop, lamar is one of one, and i’m saying all this as a browns fan! “mahomes, allen, burrow, and everyone else” is just plain wrong

  • @michaeloneill1360
    @michaeloneill1360 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Setting Up for Another Epic Bills Collapse?? Can they Avoid the Collapse this Time??

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Shouldn't be worrying about the Dolphins collapsing?

    • @captainchaosxx3866
      @captainchaosxx3866 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro you helping this show come up with names or something 😂

  • @peacemaker9279
    @peacemaker9279 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The Bengals would have still missed the playoffs if Burrow stayed healthy. Had a horrible conference record and they weren't playing like they did when they went on a super bowl run

  • @MikeSmith-kw7yc
    @MikeSmith-kw7yc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Y’all all sound crazy
    You can’t put Joe or Josh and the 2X MVP in the same breath no more or your football card is revoked
    It’s pat then Lamar and everyone else stop praising dudes unless they have rings or MVPs your gonna loose credibility

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean Lamar is great, we all know he is great but players have been better than Lamar since his MVP season lol. Nothing wrong with putting players over others if they haven't performed the same. Allen has been better than Lamar every year since 2020. Burrow has been good and they both have playoff success. Lamar is probably going to win MVP this year when statistically his numbers dont scream MVP.

    • @ohhyeahhbaby1
      @ohhyeahhbaby1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts!!!

    • @MikeSmith-kw7yc
      @MikeSmith-kw7yc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@larry2281 Lamar was better 2018 2019 2023
      Josh 2020 2021 2022
      In those years Lamar has 2 MVPs and 2 all pros
      Josh has no all pros and no MVPs
      Lamar was hurt 2021 and 2022
      Josh has more playoff wins
      But off the resumes Lamar is clear cut the better player

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MikeSmith-kw7yc Lmao, don’t be delusional. Bringing up their rookie years is irrelevant considering Lamar didn’t play majority of the year. 2019 I agree he was the best player in football but every year since then Josh has been better. Josh has been better than Lamar this year as well. The stats show he has been better. He will likely win the mvp this year but definitely shouldn’t be mvp off the numbers.
      Don’t act like Josh hasn’t been an all pro caliber player every year since 2020.

  • @NestorCaster
    @NestorCaster 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Meanwhile…. Lamar sitting back on a well deserved break like “I’m just tryin to do my best fam…” while his team, the fan based and many ppl across the league sayin “MVP… MVP… MVP”… Also meanwhile for me and my fellow Jets fans we be like: “Why is life?! What is the meaning of this pain?! 😅😅😅😅😅😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😢😢. WTF?!?!😤😠😡🤬🤯” lol

  • @michaeloneill1360
    @michaeloneill1360 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'll be in McSorely's Pub in Fort Lauderdale, for this Game!!

    • @highvoltagemedia7150
      @highvoltagemedia7150 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bills fans are gonna be flooding Fort Lauderdale this weekend 😂

  • @nickstavinoha8542
    @nickstavinoha8542 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can someone tell him the bills haven’t even lost 8 games

  • @jamarvinb6252
    @jamarvinb6252 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Acho had some good kush this morning before this segment my god 😭🤣🤣

  • @haydennyagah706
    @haydennyagah706 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Fins fan, I 100% agree with Acho. Not to mention having homefield for 2/3 playoff games is important when there's a couple cold weather teams in the playoffs (Cleveland, KC). However, Herbert got paid without ever winning the AFC West. I'm not saying a division title isn't important but it shouldn't be the end all be all for Tua getting paid, especially if the Dolphins can win a playoff game.

    • @f3rnandoll
      @f3rnandoll 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Last year, it came down to the last game vs the Jets for Miami to make the playoffs - it’s unfortunate that Tua suffered the concussions that he had - that’s coaching malpractice, but best ability for any player is always availability. It doesn’t help that in “gotta have it games” he’s disappeared. Start 8-3 then go 0-4 in December last season when only one more win would’ve clinched a playoff spot.
      For reference;
      2020: Win vs Buffalo to clinch a playoff spot (26-56 loss)
      2021: Win vs Titans to keep playoff hopes alive with a white hot win streak (3-34 loss)
      2022: Any of the games in December, but the most disappointing - @ Chargers (17-23 loss, but the stat sheet killed any narrative surrounding Tua and Herbert; you can’t go 10-28 for 145 yards and a TD when you’re an MVP favorite)
      McDaniels plays to Tua’s strengths and Tua wildly accurate with the football, but against the “elite” teams, he doesn’t play well or better yet, goes off script and starts forcing bad throws which is why he gets criticized a lot.
      Yes Brian Flores didn’t do anything to help Tua, but counterpoint, neither did Brandon Staley any of his three seasons and Herbert still produced.
      Unfortunate that he’s out for the season but everyone who’s seen most Chargers games can see why they lose, and it’s not Herbert. Can’t play “Hero-ball” every week - look at how that’s gone for Mahomes this year. Not well.

  • @kimberlyt3275
    @kimberlyt3275 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ocho made a great point about Tua. Short term answer is the Bills. They need the win more to make the playoffs. But long-term, Tua needs to win to show the team he should be paid like a franchise QB. I personally don’t think he’s elite like Burrow/Allen/Mahomes, so I wouldn’t pay him like those guys.

  • @devilsreject5343
    @devilsreject5343 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who needs the win more? Tua
    Who has the most pressure? Allen
    The reality is that Allen has proven his ability in the NFL. #4 most passing TDs since he entered the league (2018) - only 3 behind from #1, most rushing TDs by a QB since 2018. 6th most passing yards by a QB since 2018 (only Mahomes has more than him of QBs his age or younger). Acho's comments about Tua's contract situation is a real issue, because Tua really hasn't solidified his position as the star QB in Miami.

  • @abdeenabdul7803
    @abdeenabdul7803 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dont care what anybody says lamar jackson is better than joe burrow and doesnt even have the weapons joe burrownhad for years.Arm talent i dont see a difference lamar even has a bigger arm and when it comes to running lamar is all time great elite of the elite.Joe had a maguc run but his offense was the best out of all the teams they played apart from kansis city.Onyl qbs i see better than lamar are mahomes and allen but lamar and allen is pretty close.

  • @codygreen8829
    @codygreen8829 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Josh allen will not be much factor in this game james cook will.

  • @jandrousmc08
    @jandrousmc08 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Josu Allen obviously. 2 years ago maybe even last year the Dolphins were looking to replace Tua. No one has expected for Tua and the Dolphins to win except maybe this year. Allen tho.... we've expected to have a ring by now.

  • @TroyHawkins1
    @TroyHawkins1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bill gonna win man

  • @rafaelisslaam1894
    @rafaelisslaam1894 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like how this is the only show that actually gives Watson some respect, all the other shows disrespects him n doesn't bring up why he didnt play as well as we hoped, He was playing through injury all season. I hope with Chubb back next season, browns will make a lot of noise.

    • @gregtrust5599
      @gregtrust5599 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flacco is a much better QB than Watson, brown fked up giving him a guaranteed contract. Watson hasn’t been worth it whatsoever, even if they start Flacco next year, the still have to pay Watson

  • @NickSibz
    @NickSibz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro. Please tell me I misheard Acho say "iI dont consider them being injured as to why they missed the playoffs." My guy...

  • @micah.1009
    @micah.1009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sunday should be great , than again yall gotta remember these games are predetermined

  • @jarrodwest-randall8526
    @jarrodwest-randall8526 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lamar was injured the last 2 years 2021 he missed the last 5 games just like 2022.

  • @leanonme1065
    @leanonme1065 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2.37
    *That Joy Taylor's look, what does that even mean?*

  • @loganwhite6173
    @loganwhite6173 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Acho is 100000% correct

  • @donmeatley4740
    @donmeatley4740 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why do they keep putting Josh and Joe in the same sentence with pat.. what has they done

    • @phantom3668
      @phantom3668 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      theyre not, everyone says mahomes up top and then those guys

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@phantom3668Why not Lamar?

  • @Stonecoldalston
    @Stonecoldalston 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:33 wasn’t the ravens like 8-3 before Lamar was hurt ? And Joe ended the season like 7 weeks in
    Of course we’re gonna give them a pass for being injured

  • @howulikemenow3011
    @howulikemenow3011 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lamar is better than josh and burrow 🎯

  • @finzblazin
    @finzblazin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More pressure on Allen....Tua already clinched the spot. Bills will likely win and my Fins will get smoked in playoffs (entire team is banged up)

  • @musicman195959
    @musicman195959 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Dolphins are playing the Bills for the AFC East division title. Enough said. GO DOLPHINS! 🐬🏈

  • @ck7cu
    @ck7cu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neither …..they both need to sit….Tua because of his injury history and Allen because of his physical style of play

  • @chrisblaze8304
    @chrisblaze8304 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Acho got some good takes made me think it was Tua for a second but it’s Josh hands down

  • @C_Ase_Ce
    @C_Ase_Ce 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This 1 of the few times I have to disagree with Acho. Is it Tua's fault that 9 of his starters are injured with 7 of them being All-Pro/Pro Bowlers? Is it Tua's fault that his HC McDaniel didn't have a game plan when Tyreek went down early in the game against the Titans?

  • @SlimeNews
    @SlimeNews 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What?! Wtf is going on here?! Josh Allen is nowhere near top 2 qb in the league🤣🤣 Clearly Lamar is one of the 2

    • @charlesbutera3
      @charlesbutera3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lamar is stealing the mvp with his mediocre qb stats

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@charlesbutera3 about time someone brings it up. Lamar is mid pack in most QB stats and is the front runner for mvp. Recency bias at its finest. But if you bring up the stats you get told the stats don’t matter…

  • @robertbobby3073
    @robertbobby3073 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know the quarterback is the most valuable player on a team. But when all the bigon defense are hurt and you don't have an offensive line that can stay healthy. How is the quarterback supposed to get the ball out of his hands to make a play? When The Wire receivers set out for half. The game o running back don't play. You can't just put everything on the quarterback not everyone's name is tom brady

  • @willsportz
    @willsportz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Acho sounded so stupid😂

  • @Envyplayz341
    @Envyplayz341 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saying that not making the playoff cause the qb is injured don’t matter is the most faded take I heard on this show.

  • @mathewdistefano2489
    @mathewdistefano2489 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s an anti Buffalo/allen media bias and it’s ridiculous. No one ever mentions that tua has a high fumble total or that Miami had one of the easiest schedules in the NFL.

  • @elgisthomas8791
    @elgisthomas8791 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "O poor Josh had to overcome so many of his teammates injuries.." Meanwhile in Miami...

  • @LDMLIFE
    @LDMLIFE 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    😍😍 joy the goddess of speak 😍😍

  • @vidowatcher91
    @vidowatcher91 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Geez that "we won't remember if they miss the playoffs because they were hurt" debate was way too long

  • @dalton4134
    @dalton4134 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People attacking tua in the comments. The man has the best stats of any qb this season. Realize he ain’t playing defense ? Realize he can’t help everyone is getting hurt ?

  • @godbody8953
    @godbody8953 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Why Hate Lamar Jackson

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No one is hating on Lamar lol

    • @to4316
      @to4316 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@larry2281 Yeah they are watch the video.

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@to4316 ? Because they mentioned he has no playoff success? Or because other players have been better than him since his MVP season? How is that hating. Lamar is great and we know he is great.

    • @Mysteryofmines
      @Mysteryofmines 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@to4316until Lamar has his Super Bowl run you really can’t put Lamar in that Elite QB tier personally I think Lamar is better then Josh and Joe but they ran deep into the playoffs and Lamar didn’t

    • @to4316
      @to4316 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mysteryofmines Josh and Burrow haven't won a SB either. To say it's "Mahomes, Josh, Burrow and everyone else" is crazy. A few weeks from now it will be Lamar, Mahomes and everyone else.

  • @tsjohnson5
    @tsjohnson5 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need a man to love me the way NFL media loves Josh Allen.

  • @markk0023
    @markk0023 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean you just made the opposite clear. If Josh Allen gets hurt, the Bills do not come close to making the play offs.

  • @nyandrecarridge2147
    @nyandrecarridge2147 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Molly is not a real dolphins fan how can say that we haven’t won the division since 2000 this would be a great accomplishment me born an raised in Florida u won’t understand how the city would fill with this win 💯💯🐬

  • @gloverP276
    @gloverP276 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its funny the whole cast except for James 80 percent of the time, they are habitual goal post movers. How is Josh Allen so great but Dak is so untrustworthy? Allen and Dak suffer from the same issue of choking when it matters most.

  • @micah.1009
    @micah.1009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Brady tore his acl week 1 the patriots missed the playoffs being 11-5 people still mentioned brady was hurt

  • @MrMenace3210
    @MrMenace3210 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reason Tua can't justify a huge contract without a couple playoff wins is because Tyreek is generational. Keenen Allen is good, Diggs is good - but Tyreek is on a different planet, the offense belongs to him. Tua is good but his role is literally "get ball to Hill". Herbert has no wins but his stats have been consistently astronomical so the Chargers had no choice

  • @Stonecoldalston
    @Stonecoldalston 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:16 you can’t be a analyst talking like this yeah sure at first glance you’ll be like they didn’t mark the playoffs but when you get into a actual convo that’s when context come in

  • @braykayash7043
    @braykayash7043 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why does the QB have so much pressure to make playoffs. what if Josh goes in throws for 400 yrds 5 td and the Defense give up 6 td. is that on Josh? This is the ultimate TEAM sport. You cannot put it all on one position. Which has frequently been done to Josh. He didn't beat KC in the playoffs not that his D gave up 10 pts in 45 seconds. (3 in 13 and 7 in 30 OT). This is dumb.

  • @carlosmoret2675
    @carlosmoret2675 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In disagree that buffalo must take their destiny in their own hands. Thanks to the schedule makers buffalo plays last so they already know what Jacksonville and Pittsburgh have done
    Who needs a win more buffalo or Miami its Buffalo but between Tua and Allen Tua needs it more

  • @DerQuanDoucett
    @DerQuanDoucett 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s no way acho is saying missing the playoffs bc your hurt is the same as missing the playoffs when you’re healthy. Get bro of the show please 😂😂

  • @kidistdemisse7709
    @kidistdemisse7709 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is much better for bills to miss the playoffs than be in it and not win the SB again under the same QB and HC for third consecutive year. Just my point

  • @SanFranCelano
    @SanFranCelano 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude it’s 1 million percent Josh that needs the win because if they lose they are out period. They need the win more therefore Josh needs the win more