Our Cheap Jeep Struggled Off-Road, But Did This Easy Bargain-Basement Fix Make It Better?
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This kind of video is TFL at its best. The gang having fun doing what they love. Great video. TY.
I wish you would do all the testing on the same trail so you could really see what difference each modification makes
More coming soon
Great to wake up and see this! Gladiator Mojave owner here. With two young kids, I keep mods within a budget. Good series yall have.
So you bought a $55k truck?
@@ScoobyFermentation So you're jealous?
@ScoobyFermentation Prefer to put extra into 529s than expensive mods. Have to live some, though. It was 42K new after discounts. Bought from MacHaik I-10 in Houston. No financing and kept my Ram for work.
@@UnkyJofusenjoy your Jeep.
I ran a spacer lift and 35x11.5” tires on my otherwise stock sport for over a year and it took to me to some really cool places. Now I’m lifted with a true suspension lift, 4.88 gears, steel bumper and winch. Need new rims and hoping for 37s on my next set of tires (couple years from now; gives me time to strengthen that Dana 30 enough to handle the added stress). I could easily spend $10k right _now_ in mods but I also have a family and they come first, so budget minded builds are something I appreciate. We can’t all do one-ton swaps and coilovers and hellcat conversions.
Enjoyable! Appreciate Tommy & Case building each other up rather than focusing on ones self! Great job!
The Falken Wildpeak MT3's are unbeatable for an all terrain tire. They are amazing in snow/ice/rock/mud/sand/pavement!
Those wheels look so much better what a great FB find
When we would get stuck with our trucks we did exactly what you did. To aid our trucks through tough situations. Gloves, shovels and high jacker jacks to get us un-stuck. FCC in Arizona
I love these videos, keep them up please. 2 door jeeps needs more content on TH-cam
Love that you’re manually disconnecting. That’s so much of my first few years of wheeling my JLU. I have a ORO Swayloc now… had quick disconnects for a while between the two. Natural progression. The new swaybar with the ORO corrected all of my on road stability issues as well.
Great episode. The bigger tires and manually disconnected swaybar really did the job. Some spring spacer pucks for a budget 2" lift (with the fox shocks that came with the tires) and a lunchbox locker would make the perfect cheap Jeep.
Just so y’all know, the rear jt shocks can be easily modified to fit a wrangler. I have a two jl door sport as well and am running all four gladiator shocks with no issues. On the rears all you have to do is make bushings to fit on both sides of the top of the shock to keep it from moving side to side when installed (the wrangler shocks come with this piece built in but jt shocks do not). I used some round metal pieces for mine that fit on both sides of the hole and allow the bolt to come through. Love the series as it gives me confidence in my cheap jeep lol. Hope this helps!
Personally, I feel every trail-rated Jeep should come with the LSD locker, not an option. I was impressed with the Break Lock traction control system. Great video!
I am looking forward to the next one.
8 yrs ago, I purchased a New JKUR for 33k, and spent another 5k on 37" tires, rims, 3" Terra flex lift, LoD front and rear bumpers, 12k winch, midland GMRS radio, 200 watt CB radio, TrailRax side containers.... I'll keep my 2016 JKUR...
I wish Jeep and the other would copy Ford in regards to rear lockers. Its a standalone option on a ranger for $420, between $420-$570 on an F150 depending final drive, $795 on a Bronco and pairs to a 4.46 final drive. It just makes so much sense to get a factory rear locker on anything you want to off road for ~$500.
This video was very informative Alex knows now by watching his brothers kase and tommy how to handle the Jeep off-road properly and safe. the kase compliments and close up angles of him are everything shoutout to Roman for his fast timing of getting tires to keep his sons safe. also who ever was helping Alex film this did incredible. These raw honest emotional ones it feels like we are with you at that moment. Mica Family keep up the great job. Ps kase well done on the facetiousness. I heard the shirt comment lol 😂
Wow Tommy got some dirt on him I’m impressed 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Very informative - nothing like better tires and a little extra clearance to make it more off road capable.
Oh my god, the ending with the ducks is why i love jeeps ❤️
That was a FUN video !! Thanks Tommy and Kase
Great job on the video guys . Looks like the Jeep has dramatically improved in capability over its last off-road adventure.
Love u guys great info and all the fun knowledge and skill that comes along with it!!!!!! Been watching for over 10 years keep it up
I bought a Sport 4dr hardtop 4x4 with the little factory spare tires all around a few years back
And 1st week found a brand new set of Rubicon wheels and tires for $600 that I guy pulled off the 1st day to put pink rims on for his daughter
Made the look 100% better
This is old school offroading. Love it. Can't wait to see what Bill looks like a bit lifted.
For 35.000 buck you could buy a Lada Niva and make a Helicopter out of it :D
No comparison. They seem like they could be related but if you look at them in depth everything at a Lada is lighter and smaller. I love Ladas but a Wrangler is just built for heavier stuff.
I installed a lunchbox locker in the front of my JL shorty, cheap and made a huge difference to off road capability.
Which one did you install and did you do it yourself? I have a Torq locker I'm waiting to put in the front of my JL, but I'm also toying around with paying to regear to 4.56 and adding a rear Truetrac first.
Many years ago I had a Samurai and I installed a rear locker that was a huge help on the trails. I was so impressed that I later added a front locker, but I found that it hurt more often than it helped. I feel that a front locker really needs to be switchable.
I'm running a 2012 JK 2dr Sport S. It has a rear limited slip differential, no locker. It works well with the BLD system. I have a 2.5" lift kit and the same size wheel and tire that they are running on this "Cheap" Jeep. It does fine off road and I haven't had a situation yet where I said "I NEED a locker" while off road. Planning on doing gears and if I do that I probably will install a selectable locker just because it has to come apart anyway.
I agree that this is the best modification that can be made with limited resources. Many years ago I implemented it in an old Land Cruiser and it was unstoppable.
When the Land Cruiser was at 4x2, the front locker was completely transparent.
Even in 4x4, the Lunchbox Locker did allow you to turn.
Digging the Cheap Jeep content
crazy I have one of the last JKs, a 2018, rubicon but manual windows, soft top, base radio, auto trans, very similar build but all the rubi goods, and I paid $34,800 new, 3mi on it. prices have gone bananas
Loving this series
Great series, keep up the good work!
Great video series, I do similar stuff upgrading corvettes buying C6 Z06 used OE parts and bolting to C5 for cheap track cars. 💯
Jeep BLD, still not as good in 2024 as Land Rover terrain management in 2005. Glad to see the tire upgrade helped so much. Thing was neutered from the factory
LOVE THE JEEP CONTENT!!!
Seems that the individual responsible with picking a song for this video really loved the Doors
you should do some manual disconnecting sway bars. those are about 100 bucks and might be worth it to save your shirt next time lol
You must have had it on you. He was just talking about how he had them on the order as he was unbolting them
He states right before that part that he ordered some.
Yeah, my Clinch-Meter went off a few times! 😆 Rest up cheeks, it'll be alright!
Jeep should be paying you for this video. If I didn't already have an FJ, I'd be looking to see if I could find one of these for 35k. I'm still kinda curious and I'd say other people are too. I love this series and can't wait for the next video. Great job guys
Can’t wait for the next episode 🎉
Fyi, those gladiator springs will fit in front because everything from the driver forward is the same as a wrangler, but the rear springs are different (which I think you mentioned). Glad to see you aired down (although I would have gone to about 15) and disconnected the sway bar! An electric racket makes the job 100x easier. Looking forward to the next video!
Won't the gladiator components be too stiff for a 2dr Wrangler?
@@jeepinintexas6215yeah, but probably not any stiffer than the spring rates of an aftermarket lift kit.
Edit: for example, my Teraflex springs are marketed as “only 10% stiffer than stock,” but that’s a stock _rubicon,_ which is about 10% stiffer than a Sport. No jeep rides _good,_ so having springs that stiff certainly hurt the on-road ride quality (off road, it’s nice - reduces shaking of the body significantly so you’re not bobbing your head around all the time). Combined with my E rated tires and cheapo Rancho 5000 series shocks, it’s not great on road. I’m trying to fix that soon(ish) as the budget allows.
Cheapest wrangler -vs - cheapest bronco would be a cool series I think. Comfort,capability, mpg etc
I keep saying this, you can safely rock crawl on non beadlock wheels down to 10-12 psi. I've been doing it for years, going from 20 to 12 makes an enormous difference. I have friends going as low as 8 with 37s.
You did not need lockers, the Jeep did ok, and the traction control is great, I like your Jeep
Shows what you need to do with base jeeps
Very enjoyable series. I can’t help but think that most people who off-road are too nervous to take a new Jeep anyway. Especially given the crappy used Jeep market right now, I’d be interested to see what kind of Rubicon you could find used (probably not in Boulder) for the same money that might have lots of the same equipment already on it and other equipment (like the axles) that would be prohibitive to do here. I suspect that there are plenty that have seen only light off-road use at best. Maybe you guys could try that once you have the final budget and see what you can get and how it compares?
Looks good. Love that blue.
you need a 5th tire - or a nice tire cover that says TFL or a picture of Blazy so that it doesn't look really odd on the back. :)
You should add some lunch box lockers to it for under 300 bucks per axle.
Yeah...but after installation costs....more like $500-700 per axle. I don't think they would tackle that themselves...or at least I haven't seen videos showing them doing such things.... But I totally agree on the concept!
@@daveharness70the only guy affiliated with TFL that could install them is David and I haven't seen him around in a while unless he's been making appearances on their other channels.
I like the color and with the new wheels and tires, its looks good. Really like the larger screen innthe new JLs. This Jeep needs a 2.5" lift and some kind of locking rear differential. I wouldn't have most of the issues you guy's are having in my 2012 Sport aside from thr wheelbase. It has a LSD and the same size wheel and tire combo you're running with a 2.5" lift. I also have a winch and steel bumpers front and back with LoD sliders.
Y'all should do Cheap Jeep and Cheap Bronco builds for comparison
Nice video!
Hope you are going to test a Jimny one day
I love this series!! The cheap jeep!!
I kind of think that disconnecting the sway bar was just as much, if not more help off road than the tires. But bigger tires are always good to have. It would have been nice to see the results with once change at a time.
Maybe a sponsor could provide some winter tires for those stock wheels so you can compare pizza-cutter winter tires to the Falkens on snow.
The best upgrade you made for this test/video was leaving Roman home. He was the biggest obstacle to previous success.
I wish you had tested it with the sway bar connect first up. I’m not sure how many people are going to crawl underneath to manually unbolt the sway bar to go off-road but the tyres are very practical.
And I too find the descents more nervy than climbing.
No
One thing that I would love to see you guys to spend close to $25,000 on a $10,000 vehicle and compared the difference
You guys should show the difference between this two door and the AEV 4 door y’all have
Tires are so critical, which is why jeep wont offer them on base trims and want everyone in a Rubicon, but apparently they dont realize thst FB marketplace is the first stop for almost every jeep owner after buying one, new or used!
Nice video. GJ TFL team. Fix the spare though :)
I prefer the steel wheels myself. Skinny tires give better grip off road most of the time too. I would have done 255/80R17 on the steelies. Cool vide though, I'm entertained.
Bigfoot sighting in the background at 8:52
Toss some spacers behind those stock tires and it would be a great looking and capable daily driver. It the way jeep dealerships are heading, I wouldn’t be surprised, for people negotiating a Willy’s down to 38k
Looks like you had it on your second line. The rear passenger would have lifted, leveling off the vehicle.
The ese videos make me want to buy a jeep…
Here’s an idea - how would an LSD front and rear do in comparison to a single rear locker? Two LSDs is likely less expensive than a single locker as well
Ducks were nice touch. Now if the Jeep Team could just straighten out the European Mother Ship’s steering when it comes to the Jeep brand (and if they are already there help out RAM, too)?! Thanks!
Enjoy the series but hard to hear you say “cheap Jeep” at that price. Let’s do a real cheap Jeep challenge and put them up against this over priced Sport. If $35 grand is cheap just wait till you see what $25 grand can buy you on the used market.
Or $6,700 that I paid for my '98 TJ...
I would love to see the bargain bin jeep vs my bargain bin tacoma, it's a 2011 4cyl regular cab 4x4, all it has is better tires 265/75/r16 and the sway bar lives in the trash!
I only prefer short wheelbase if I´m driving in city or for short distances (for weight)
For everything else I prefer long. Feels way more stable on highway and on steep in-/declines. Does not want to under-/oversteer as quickly. And towing is way more relaxed.
If you keep a canvas dropcloth in your vehicle, you don't have to ruin your shirt. Just a few bucks at a hardware store.
Have you done a video yet of the Moonlander camper on the Raptor?
Oh great new!! Please can u answer my question? Can I use gladiator shocks to wrangler?!!! Mine is 4door sahara. Please let me know 😢😢
At 6:03 you say “stock suspension on this Ford of course”.
Great to see reasonable mods on an affordable vehicle. Since you've been spending too much time in toys for Playboy's. The US auto industry has been making more and more bs vehicles while deleting useful affordable ones. Is that why they want tariffs. So no one in America can buy a car. But you guys put out a real blue collar vid. And gave a course on off-roading that should sell a load of tires🎉🎉🎉
I will take a 80k vehicle into peril if that's what it was built to do. Back in 96 it took me only 2 month to get my first scratch and dent in my brand new F150
Sad you cant do a comparison between the suzuki jimny and this jeep in the us. It could of been interesting. Maybe you can import one from mexico one day 😂
Put a cheap lunchbox locker on the front axle.
What about a cheap jeep vs cheap bronco series in the future ??? 🤔
I don’t see how one can say, you may not take your $65k Jeep off road but you can one that’s $35k. The things that can be damaged off road are identical. Same crappy paint, same fenders and body panels. The only major differences are the off road hardware which you would want and need in extreme off road situations.
I had 400 miles on my 2024 the first time I buried it on a section of the Daniel Boone backcountry byway! Why buy a wrangler if you're not going to play
35k is nuts!
Can you put a G80 diff in that wrangler since you don’t have a rear locker? Just curious
2 things we learned. 1) it's all talent
2) jeeps are too expensive and you shouldn't need that much talent if you spend 40k
Did you check the brake line to front brakes while disconnecting the sway bar?
20.2 psi? Oh come on, go to 15 psi.
Drop it down to 5. Who needs beadlocks?
didn't you guys used to take a different line on the razor rocks?
3:24 THEY LEARNED. BIG W FOR DISCONNECTING THE SWAY BAR.
Disconnecting the sway bar would have saved u at the first trail!
20psi is not really airing down. I drive with 28 on the pavement every day. With non beadlocks you can easily go 12-15psi and the difference in traction far out weighs the 1/2 to 3/4" of lost ground clearance.
It's only $3600 to get a Sport S vs Sport. I think you should've just made the leap.
Nothing wrong with everything being manual. This is how life was before things got way too easy and convenient. Convenient unfortunately has become easy to break and expensive to fix.
“We like easy.”
The BLD system gets downplayed way too much. I have personally seen it work and it is a far cry from having pure open diffs only. It seems to make up for most of what lockers can do. I drive a '99 Pathfinder 4x4 with a rear limited slip and it can do nothing compared to the BLD system. I would love to see a video comparing a jeep with true open diffs to one with the BLD system.
Im always totally impressed by the BLD performance on my 13 JK sport
1:22 JT rear socks and springs do not fit on JLs
Better yet buy a nice used Rubicon and have everything you need already and not loose a ton of money buying new once you drive it off the lot
You gained .6 inches lift from those tires. Not 1-1.5
Should be 25k for a base model
This series has only confirmed that the Jeep Wrangler is extremely overpriced now.
All of these “cheap Jeep” videos at the end always turn out to be very close to the price of a rubicon after all the mods and headaches.
More skinny pedal!
those are launch edition wheels
no such thing as cheap jeep!!