Doctor Who Almost Had A JK Rowling Episode...

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  • @HarboWholmes
    @HarboWholmes  ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This was a pretty hefty video to make, so I'd appreciate it if you could support me on Patreon!
    www.patreon.com/harbowholmes

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really appreciate all your hard work. You’re easily the best Who channel on TH-cam
      Kind regards from Dublin 🇮🇪🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷

  • @gallifreychloe3297
    @gallifreychloe3297 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I think it's interesting that there are still hints towards both ideas that Boom Town replaced. Jack mentioned Pompeii in the episode prior "Gotta remember to set your alarm for volcano day." and at the end of that same episode:
    Rose: "Look at you, beaming away like you're Father Christmas."
    Doctor: "Who says I'm not, red bicycle when you were twelve?"
    Even Father's Day had a hint towards that storyline with the Doctor talking to baby Rose.
    Just interesting to see the remnants of it.

    • @racheljackson4428
      @racheljackson4428 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nice details in the dialogue.

  • @Josh-ze6xo
    @Josh-ze6xo ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Boom Town makes sense as a title for a story about Pompei anyway.

  • @alaw4581
    @alaw4581 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Dodged a huge bullet with the alien names rowling would have come up with for the show

  • @adrimedeiros9807
    @adrimedeiros9807 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Matt Berry as the Monk (or any Time Lord) is something that I now NEED. RTD make it happen!

  • @zachh6868
    @zachh6868 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The doctor trading his life for Wilfred was definitely the play. Especially compared to the family. It's such a good scene that he'd trade his life (sort of) for one good old man.

  • @VocaLABProductions
    @VocaLABProductions ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for giving us a mention in this video. We’re HUGE followers (and fans) of your work!

  • @NileSWPhotography
    @NileSWPhotography ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I’ve always loved boom town, there’s always been something special about it to me. I love the conversation between the doctor and Margaret
    And I can’t believe you don’t like tooth and claw!! I love it haha

  • @CineScarborough
    @CineScarborough ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Stephen Fry script must be revived. Now they have the Disney money, they can offer him a huge pay deal if need be to obtain his services for RTD2. I honestly believe that and the long-mooted Peter Jackson episode should be given top priority.

  • @skinner219
    @skinner219 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Since RTD has returned as showrunner and is getting so much budget from Disney, I wonder if he’ll finally bring some of these original and alternate concepts to life.

    • @calumgardner6936
      @calumgardner6936 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My thoughts exactly, in fact if I was him in the position he is now that’s probably one of the very first I’d look at doing

    • @BlueSparxLPs
      @BlueSparxLPs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The budget increase was another bit of misinformation spread around by journalists. RTD dispelled the claims that the show would be getting a significant budget increase with Disney.

    • @arubinojr5670
      @arubinojr5670 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlueSparxLPs We've already seen like three alternate outfits for one season. Disney is definitely slipping them something under the table, and probably aren't exactly breaking the bank on it.

    • @BlueSparxLPs
      @BlueSparxLPs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arubinojr5670 That's not even unique, though? Capaldi's Doctor had so many costume changes from story to story, he was rarely seen in his official base looks. A few alternate costumes is not any evidence of a bigger budget.

    • @Skuldug
      @Skuldug ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@BlueSparxLPs he dispelled the rumour of a 3x budget increase
      He still clarified the budget was indeed increased just not that much

  • @Alovon
    @Alovon ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Honestly wonder if some Moffatt writers and even Cornell could return in Davies' 2nd run as showrunner.
    Could definitely see a story by Cornell delving into the psychological impact that the whole back half of 13's run and whatever circumstances forced him back into 10's form as 14 being a weight on the Gatwa Doctor.
    (Ditto Gallifrey being in a bit of a paradox dead state...again).
    Just feel a story channeling that trauma and emotion that 13 shrugged/repressed could do some work on addressing the problems with Chibnal's run and working on clearing the board for RTD to make the DW Universe fit again.
    Also could sort of bring a callback to Day of The Doctor.
    10: The one with regrets
    11: The one who forgets
    13: The one who Represses?
    Pretty much retroactively give 13 more character to make the comparisons between 13 and Gatwa more palpable beyond "Actually has a consistent character"

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meh, Cornell will write the return of the Meddling Monk.

    • @legendg219
      @legendg219 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      RTD will defo try and make sense of Chibnall's run and maybe some of Moffats crazy storylines as well. He'll make them work in his new era because he's faithful and respectable to the show and its history. I think Moffat is more or less confirmed to be writing in the new era and maybe Chibnall too but cant confirm that.

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, if we're Gonna bring up the timeless child why don't we just go Full unnatural history and bring up the other and dr who
      Go all out with the doctor's paradoxical time lying

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@legendg219Oh so he's going to make it an inconsistent mess Of wibbly wobbliness.
      The first doctor was human point blank
      I think at this point, we should just fully embrace the unnatural history and the doctor being a living paradox of a person

  • @ZemplinTemplar
    @ZemplinTemplar ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Matt Berry as a new TV incarnation of the Meddling Monk would be a riot. :-))) And imagine him briefly running into Missy and figuring out it's the Master (someone even the Monk likely fears). The vampire ideas are rather lame, though. The land of fiction return would have been interesting. I think I've read before about the "Lucy Sparrow" prototype for Amy and the story originally involving a longer continuing Tenth Doctor, before things changed for good and series 5 could focus on a new Doctor and new storyline.

  • @xBoringPerfectionx
    @xBoringPerfectionx ปีที่แล้ว +110

    If you dont like what Harbo is saying, dont watch his videos. Hes never pretended that hes anything but a trans ally so dont be so shocked when he takes issue with a woman seeking to do the community harm.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Choosing to believe they're all Graham Linehan's sockpuppet accounts.

    • @generalj216
      @generalj216 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well I for one think he’s full of crap on this issue anyway but I’m not seething about it. If that’s how he feels so be it.

    • @xBoringPerfectionx
      @xBoringPerfectionx ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @General J I don't understand how someone can be a fan of doctor who and be anti trans. Especially now RTD is coming back who has publicly spoken out against anti trans rhetoric.

    • @generalj216
      @generalj216 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@xBoringPerfectionx I mean it’s not rocket science. They’re there for the story and the characters not the opinions of the writers 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @xBoringPerfectionx
      @xBoringPerfectionx ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@generalj216 the stories are inextricably linked to social justice - it's always been about that.

  • @orangepizzaparty688
    @orangepizzaparty688 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    As a trans person, your continued open support and acceptance of trans people has meant so much to me, and has made this channel feel like a safe space for me, given how much transphobia there is on youtube. It honestly makes me feel better about myself.
    On another note, I think it's for the best that love and war wasn't adapted for the modern era. I love 7 and Ace's dynamic, and I think it fits the story so much better.
    Edit: if you don't agree with me, that's fine. Your personal beliefs don't affect me. But if Harbo's content and views bother you, you don't have to watch, or can choose to ignore it. Either way, doesn't affect me.

    • @TheWolfXCIX
      @TheWolfXCIX ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Continuously deriding people who acknowledge the realities of biological sex is not "providing a safe space", it's bigoted.

    • @wc8246
      @wc8246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheWolfXCIX Your refusal to acknowledge the differences between sex and gender is all on you, it wont make you 'win' anything, and will literally only result in you being confused and not understanding what people are talking about.

    • @beeeeeesbury
      @beeeeeesbury ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@WOLF why do you care?

    • @arubinojr5670
      @arubinojr5670 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheWolfXCIX Moth to a flame, except if the moth could only repeat pre-programmed phrases given by its handlers.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TheWolfXCIX "acknowledge the realities of biological sex"
      Yeah, that's not what Rowling does.

  • @lucypreece7581
    @lucypreece7581 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have also looked into some of the potential unmade stories that had been shelved for Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures and I really hope in his 2.0 era that Davies potentially picks up and adapts one of these. There was one that was bounced between both Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures that was intended to essentially be a single hander story featuring one character. It had 2 working titles. One called Checkout and the other called Supermarket Sweep. It would feature either Ianto Jones or Luke Smith having to battle an alien on their own in a supermarket with 0 support from anyone else and having to single handedly defeat this creature and stop whatever the threat was going to be only using the tools and resources available in the supermarket. It was meant to evoke the vibe of Die Hard and I think it is a really interesting concept and I really hope that Davies picks this back up again and adapts it for the main show and has it be a single hander episode for either the companion or a guest star and have the Doctor maybe show up in like the last 5 minutes not realising the threat has already been neutralised by someone else. Playing into the Doctor often being late or the TARDIS making the Doctor end up in the wrong place. Also I kind of really want a way for Luke Smith to be in the main show since he was always a brilliant character and I think he would have an interesting dynamic with the Doctor so it would be nice to have Luke come back for like 1 or 2 episodes in a guest role with maybe his reintroduction being the supermarket story. It's just an idea but I just really like the concept of it.

  • @PlatinumAltaria
    @PlatinumAltaria ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imagine where we’d all be if a few more Chibnall-Era episodes had landed on this list instead of our TVs.

  • @junahn1907
    @junahn1907 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought there WAS a J K Rowling episode. She played the angry Meep in The Star Beast.

  • @mrgreeny906
    @mrgreeny906 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did hear that War of the Sontarans and Village of the Angels were 2 planned stories for Series 13 anyway. Just rewrote and changed in parts to connect with the Flux storyline

  • @roseflood1612
    @roseflood1612 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just realised, Davies actually did use "The Void" as inspiration for Wild Blue Yonder.

  • @milesmemory
    @milesmemory ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God do I wish I was in the universe where that Matt Berry monk story happened

  • @alternatethirteenth5594
    @alternatethirteenth5594 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Matt Berry Monk is still my most wanted, like I need it so badly (though Queenie probably wants it more...) and were it not for Barrowman being an idiot (and his relationship with Eccleston anyway), The Void could have ended up being done... Perhaps it'll be retooled one day or the Perfect Companion one done as an Unbound...

  • @dilltaskermusic1407
    @dilltaskermusic1407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay. I need Matt Berry as The Monk in my life now.

  • @elliottnoad1270
    @elliottnoad1270 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    With the Sir Gwaine episode could've been interesting if it was a sequel to Battlefield from S26
    Like could tie it to a crack in time caused by a ghost shift/Mickey getting back to N-Space, causing the Doctor & Rose to arrive in the dimension that all the knights, Arthur & Morgaine came from.
    Although i guess, having it be Episode 11 in the same series with the Rise Of The Cybermen/Age Of Steel + the dimension hopping already in Army Of Ghosts/Doomsday could be a tad repetitive (the whole get back from Pete's World and then few episodes later get back from Arthur's Dimension, then in the finale Daleks & void ship hiding in the void + cybermen and The Preachers from Petes World)

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Irene what if we Cut out then getting back from Pete's world and have them land in arthur's world
      So they fall through pete's world arthur's world before finally coming back out into n-space But Is the voice ship follows them back

  • @DanTheMan2150AD
    @DanTheMan2150AD ปีที่แล้ว +27

    While I don’t appreciate the low digs at Gatiss, The Suicide Exhibition is such a brilliant concept to have not have been made, honestly one of my most wanted pieces of Who… I know Nick Briggs has expressed interest in trying to adapt them to audio, so maybe not all is lost.

    • @DesproSr
      @DesproSr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m glad someone else said this. I’m actually a big fan of Gatiss’s episodes myself, I love his style of Doctor Who story - but, regardless, it feels quite mean spirited whenever he points out his dislike for the guy.

  • @shakes1026
    @shakes1026 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fir Bholg is pronounced as "Feer volg", at least it is here in Munster. Fairly sure it translates as Wounded Men but I could be wrong. Leaving Cert (A Level) Irish is really serving me well 🙄

  • @CyborgCharlotte
    @CyborgCharlotte ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I’m going to be honest here, the alien creature attaching itself to an author and warping reality into one based on their creations sounds like, well, a really cool idea. I actually want them to retool that, maybe for a fictional author or even another famous one from history. Imagine if it latched onto Roald Dahl, J.R.R. Tolkien, Terry Pratchett, Dr Seuss or even HP Lovecraft

    • @CyborgCharlotte
      @CyborgCharlotte ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Doctor fighting wizards? Cool but we can do way better. The Doctor fighting full blown fantasy creatures, magic, dark gods, a world that defies all logic, the physical embodiment of death itself or even cosmic horrors beyond our comprehension? HELL YES

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh god, doing it with Lovecraft could be... questionable. Let's just say that that guy had a lot of his mind besides Cthulhu.

    • @CyborgCharlotte
      @CyborgCharlotte ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@FTZPLTC Fair point, maybe a modern day fictional cosmic horror author then?
      Look I just want Doctor Who to do a cosmic horror story, ok? 😅

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I could go for the Doctor teaming up with Death against the Auditors...

    • @carolinemcgovern4488
      @carolinemcgovern4488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I desperently want them to retool that idea with another athour because it still sounds wicked cool.

  • @ThistleBlue
    @ThistleBlue ปีที่แล้ว +15

    More reasons to love David Tennant then. Stopping, at the time unknown, a Transphobic person from appearing in the show. Legend!

  • @milktenders6219
    @milktenders6219 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m rewatching the show, and the line “good old JK” aged like milk

    • @Tnya099
      @Tnya099 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Haha and, though the writer of that episode couldn't have known, he also turned out to be a transphobe. Thank goodness Tennant is a huge ally!

  • @lasseehrenreich5502
    @lasseehrenreich5502 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    My birthday is also in April and thank you for standing up against transphobia.

    • @notreallyginger5831
      @notreallyginger5831 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      April birthday supremacy

    • @rac3502
      @rac3502 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mines in April too

    • @rangerzickle3350
      @rangerzickle3350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still would have loved to see that J.K Rowing episode. Specially since this was in the height of the Harry Potter movies and Tennet was in The Goblet of Fire. Imagine the back and forth Harry and the Doctor would have as Harry confuses him for Mad Eye

    • @DaveMan1K
      @DaveMan1K ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rowling didn't attack anyone.
      The supposed "allies" however have doxxed, harassed, bullied, sent death threats, and celebrated an innocent man's passing.

    • @lpc9929
      @lpc9929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@DaveMan1K2 wrongs

  • @laineydavis00
    @laineydavis00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had no idea that fully fleshed out ideas could just be dropped like that!! Fingers crossed Matt Berry makes his way into Doctor Who... hopefully using the incredible speaking pattern he uses in WWDITS haha

    • @toyotatacoma1616
      @toyotatacoma1616 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I legit think Matt Berry would make for an excellent Doctor.

  • @Jplays23
    @Jplays23 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Just to counter the phobes finding this video, it has been your continued open support of the trans community, and the windr LGBTQIA+ community that has caused me to subscribe, rather than just watch your videos of they pop on on my feed.
    Thanks for being awesome.

    • @MichaelM28
      @MichaelM28 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok groomer

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't found any of them yet
      Not that that's a bad thing

  • @arubinojr5670
    @arubinojr5670 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:45 Has real comic book limited series potential.
    5:38 Never Forget, even in Current Year, that a Stephen Fry teleplay being allowed to fall through is what caused Fear Her.

    • @OverAnalyst
      @OverAnalyst ปีที่แล้ว

      17:28 Also how bad was When We Weren't There, that Kill the Moon was *better*?!

  • @calumgardner6936
    @calumgardner6936 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While the whole thing with Penny for Series 4 sounds interesting, I can only thank god above we got what we did with Donna instead

  • @rassilontdavros3004
    @rassilontdavros3004 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Ah yes, the legendary unmade JKR episode. Probably one of the biggest dodged bullets in Who history, though nothing will ever top "Patrick Troughton wanted to play the Doctor in blackface so nobody would recognize him" in that regard.

    • @ryaneckersley2037
      @ryaneckersley2037 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      he what

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ryaneckersley2037 yup ,it was unacceptable then and it’s unacceptable now‼️🔷🔷🔷🔷

    • @rassilontdavros3004
      @rassilontdavros3004 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ryaneckersley2037 Yeah, he was so afraid that taking over the role from Hartnell would be a disastrous failure that he didn't want anybody to associate him with it. How exactly he thought people would fail to recognize him if he wore blackface is beyond me.

    • @TPH250290
      @TPH250290 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now they'll see the real you.

    • @rassilontdavros3004
      @rassilontdavros3004 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TPH250290
      That wasn't a dodged bullet. That bullet hit the show square in the chest.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the Void sounded like an awesome story not too sure about the Gatiss one with the hand though reminded me much of the Dr. Mysterio episode

  • @enbyennui
    @enbyennui ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank the lord for David Tennant apparently being an actual time traveller with the foresight to save us from this shit.

  • @berendboer8459
    @berendboer8459 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Shi'ar? As in... the alien empire from X-Men?! definitely

  • @zurgtheemperor975
    @zurgtheemperor975 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have liked to have seen the storyline where with the Doctor manipulating Rose's timeline.
    Moffat briefly wrote years ago in Dr Who Magazine about his idea for if David Tennant stayed on another year, but when he did, he called Amy "Amy Pond" instead of the name you stated in the video. Although maybe just called her "Amy" in that article to keep things simple.

  • @joshsobchak9902
    @joshsobchak9902 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    BBC to Harbo: Alright, we'll let you off this time.

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:16-That's a certified alternate timeline bruh moment

  • @Jplays23
    @Jplays23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved this, some of these sound super interesting, i womder if any will ne brought pack in part/at all.

  • @thetimeshadow6769
    @thetimeshadow6769 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If they make a Sleep No More Prequel, I think they should call it: Sleep Again.

  • @R.senals_Arsenal
    @R.senals_Arsenal ปีที่แล้ว +12

    And in 2033 they all got made into Big Finish Lost Stories. 😅 (or short trips like that one)
    Except the JK Rowling one, *shudder*
    I'm glad they didn't retool Love & War, I love that story just as it is. I loved Human Nature just as it was too, but removing it from Doctor 7 ruins less than taking L&W from him.
    23:35 Wait, what?!? You can be demonetized for mentioning the pandemic? Since when? Since why?!?

    • @BrankoVT
      @BrankoVT ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At the start of the pandemic you could get demonitises for some reason, but I don't know if that's still in place.

    • @ogpandamonium
      @ogpandamonium ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it was to prevent misinformation but it definitely didn't work.

    • @CineScarborough
      @CineScarborough ปีที่แล้ว

      You're assuming JK Rowling doesn't learn the errors of her ways and gets some form of redemption.

    • @MichaelM28
      @MichaelM28 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CineScarboroughShe doesn't need redemption as she did nothing wrong

  • @NK-nx7ej
    @NK-nx7ej ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, thank you very much for all this info and hard work!

  • @aeloswindrunner
    @aeloswindrunner ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd say the Matt Berry clip should have been of Lazzlo Cravensworth, but it would probably be demonetised immediately xD

  • @THOMAS_VANN
    @THOMAS_VANN ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At least rtd did get his Pompeii episode in series 4

  • @ashleytuchin7693
    @ashleytuchin7693 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coming soon to Big Finish: Doctor Who - The Lost Stories, Vol. 27.

  • @Lia-uf1ir
    @Lia-uf1ir ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:05 Wow, I would've loved to watch The Void!

  • @Joshisepic2222
    @Joshisepic2222 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree that we dodged a bullet with no Rowling episode, but we still have to deal with the next worst thing, the Shakespeare code

    • @toadtv4389
      @toadtv4389 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not even nearly as bad as JK episode would be. It just references Harry Potter which is cool

    • @MichaelM28
      @MichaelM28 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cry harder groomer

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@toadtv4389But it was written by gareth roberts wasn't it

    • @something1600
      @something1600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shut up fascist. @@MichaelM28

  • @GoatManWithAplan
    @GoatManWithAplan ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank the mighty Rassilon the JK Rowling episode didn’t happen!

    • @MichaelM28
      @MichaelM28 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Found the groomer

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@MichaelM28It's You
      Historically, people who call other people evil are actually the evil people, for example, the church

    • @something1600
      @something1600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MichaelM28 Found the Fascist.

  • @eye-chan1711
    @eye-chan1711 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So glad the JKR story never happened. It would be pretty awkward with the doctor being able to change sex and all that... Might be kind of funny with the thirteenth doctor though. Especially with how easily she brings up how she used to be a man.

  • @AFriendRemembers
    @AFriendRemembers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting that you comment on she who cannot be named (without summoning a horde of trolls willing to argue in both directions).
    There was never a script so it doesnt count as an unmade episode but RTD asked her if she'd like to write an ep when he took the reigns. She was amused but gave a very definitive no

  • @robinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
    @robinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:36 the Shi'ar are already an alien race from X-Men, so they probably wouldn't have used that name

  • @MediocrMrFox
    @MediocrMrFox ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The bog men name is pronounced "FEER-bolg"
    Also a D&D race lmao

  • @terra4686
    @terra4686 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    on behalf of myself and all the trans people i know, you are cool for hating rowling 👍
    im subscribing

    • @travelservices1200
      @travelservices1200 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, by all means, meet perceived (I believe, incorrectly) hate with real hate. That's the way to solve social issues. Your hate has made you poweful!

    • @glowstoneunknown
      @glowstoneunknown ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, fuck terfs!

    • @terra4686
      @terra4686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      her influence got a trans kid killed.

    • @matt4048
      @matt4048 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@travelservices1200is it that hard, even if you don't agree with their life style, just not to be mean to them?
      Ok, you believe they're oddballs. They ain't harming anyone so just... leave them be? Not sure why Rowling can't do that, no one would care about her personal views if she just mentioned them once and didn't repeatedly harp on about nonsense about how bad they supposedly are.

    • @travelservices1200
      @travelservices1200 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matt4048 Just to be clear, I have NO problem at all with "their lifestyle"; not in the slightest. They should live and be well and try to be happy, and if they experience themselves as some particular gender, well, they know themselves better than I ever could, so I will take it as my starting point to accept a person's view of who and what they are. I am probably considered one of the most extreme "oddballs" among the people that I know, so it would be severe hypocrisy for me to disdain others as "oddballs". And incidentally, I don't "believe they're oddballs", certainly not in any negative sense. I believe they are humans, and all humans are different from all other humans who have ever existed. People aren't fungible; everyone is an oddball.
      I was simply denigrating the notion (implicitly stated by terra4686) that hate could ever be a useful response to disagreement, and I quoted the Emperor from Star Wars to make my sarcastic point. It's perfectly reasonable to think Rowling is wrong, and even to think she is bigoted against trans people--though I'm not entirely convinced that's so. If it is, I would find it a character flaw, certainly, but I suspect that her own experiences with domestic violence and the like are behind her concern about things like having "pre-op" trans women work in rape counseling centers, for instance (at least for victims who do not feel safe around "biological males"). I consider the counselees' status as the victims of sexual violence supersedes--locally, in this SPECIFIC instance--the very well-intended and admirable desire of any given trans woman to do such important work. There are probably plenty of women who have no fear of trans women giving providing counseling for them, and there is plenty of such necessary work to go around, unfortunately. It is not an easy situation, and we can all wish there were no need for such counseling.
      But I think the first commenter's statement that they think someone is "cool" for "hating Rowling" is worthy of at least a bit of snark (though it was probably not very productive of me). Hate closes the mind and corrodes society. I'll quote the 12th Doctor's final speech, in which he says, "Hate is always foolish, and love is always wise." Maybe it would be better if one tried to understand another's point of view--even if one does not agree with them--and then to have actual dialogue with that person, rather than throw out epithets and curses on the website formerly known as Twitter (or, indeed, on TH-cam). I also think you are right that Rowling should just drop this issue instead of allowing herself to be cast in the role of the antagonist to those who denigrate her. She's very clever with snarky remarks and so on--she is a brilliant writer--but I think it's almost never the case that one can win someone's understanding by winning a snarky debate (and I can see that I'm being a hypocrite here), so I think she's just making her position less convincing by getting into any schoolyard-style rhetoric.
      I also agree with your third sentence without any reservation. If someone isn't harming anyone else, one should definitely let them be. Life is hard enough and the world is complicated and crazy enough already. I also think that many in the trans community would be better served to stop hating on Rowling but instead just to say, "Well, she's entitled to her opinion, but being a best-selling author doesn't involve any expertise that would make her especially likely to be right about this issue, and I think she's wrong. Now, let's get past that fruitless discussion and see what we can do to try to improve things, preferably for everybody." Thank goodness, life is not a zero-sum game.

  • @Fenris77
    @Fenris77 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:34 Shi'ar that sounds like a empire in Marvel universe...

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean if the doctor travels back to the seventh doctors era And it takes a few turns he could end up in the marvel universe
      Because doctor who has one continuity and at one point, it was part of marvel uk, which was connected Is to both the transformers and the main marvel universe for a time

    • @Fenris77
      @Fenris77 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@plantainsame2049 Indeed I believe it was an issue where Deathshead ( Later after that killed and absorbed into the multiple minds of the cyborg Minion that eventually became Deathshead II) became part of Transformers (At that point still part of Marvel).

  • @mikefine619
    @mikefine619 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone have the link for the first page of the Rasputin script?

  • @apanapandottir205
    @apanapandottir205 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Rasputin story sounds amazing hahah

  • @imadeadmeme9429
    @imadeadmeme9429 ปีที่แล้ว

    at last, The Monk

  • @carolinemcgovern4488
    @carolinemcgovern4488 ปีที่แล้ว

    I gotta say, putting JK aside, that story with the aliens attaching themselves to an athour and making their words come alive sounds amazing AF, and I hope they return to it in the future with someone different.

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't that just the land of Fiction crossed with turn left

  • @rangerzickle3350
    @rangerzickle3350 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still would have loved to see that J.K Rowing episode. Specially since this was in the height of the Harry Potter movies and Tennet was in The Goblet of Fire. Imagine the back and forth Harry and the Doctor would have as Harry confuses him for Mad Eye.
    I truly believe we have been robbed of some great storytelling potential.

    • @ThetaSigma-vu1sk
      @ThetaSigma-vu1sk ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It would've been dumb. Tennant was right, it would've been some dumb parody

    • @rangerzickle3350
      @rangerzickle3350 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThetaSigma-vu1sk
      Or we could’ve had a moment we’re Harry mistakes the Doctor for Mad Eye Moody.

    • @ThetaSigma-vu1sk
      @ThetaSigma-vu1sk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rangerzickle3350 You just proved my point...

  • @tom_4615
    @tom_4615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait do you get demonitised for talking about covid??? That's ridiculous hahaha

  • @theoatyastarties
    @theoatyastarties ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would like to have seen JK Rowling in Doctor Who, She wrote one of the most notable book series of all time and considering that she got a shout out in The Shakespeare code it would explain the line "GOOD OLD JK!"

    • @Cheesusful
      @Cheesusful ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lol @ "one of the greatest movie franchises of all time"

    • @ThetaSigma-vu1sk
      @ThetaSigma-vu1sk ปีที่แล้ว +11

      She didn't write those movies. She wrote the books and then screenwriters adapted them. She can't write TV and movies, as proven by Fantastic Beasts.

    • @theoatyastarties
      @theoatyastarties ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThetaSigma-vu1sk Sorry for that mistake, I've corrected it now.

    • @Cheesusful
      @Cheesusful ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@theoatyastarties extra lol @ "one of the greatest book series of all time that is still popular to this day" especially considering its popularity has been severely dropping off lately...

    • @theoatyastarties
      @theoatyastarties ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cheesusful For me Harry Pottor died with Fantastic Beasts two

  • @PstrywBerryVids
    @PstrywBerryVids ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that's welsh (?)

  • @CashelOConnolly
    @CashelOConnolly ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Well I’m glad it never happened‼️Doctor Who doesn’t need a transphobe(allegedly ) tarnishing its reputation 🔷🔷🔷🔷

    • @TimeMasterOG
      @TimeMasterOG ปีที่แล้ว

      "transphobe" such a meaningless word you people over use it to the point it might as well not have been made

    • @nyssalikesbugs
      @nyssalikesbugs ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TimeMasterOG it applies to JK rowling regardless

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nyssalikesbugs true,a truly rotten person 🤢

    • @TimeMasterOG
      @TimeMasterOG ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nyssalikesbugs it really doesnt...

    • @TimeMasterOG
      @TimeMasterOG ปีที่แล้ว

      all she said is that trans women arent actually women... and thats true they arent they are men and will always be men via their biological makeup

  • @thewhitewolf1156
    @thewhitewolf1156 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The whole thing with J. K. Rowling is funny as hell, she was worshipped by the left in 2000s, then she came out with one opinion left doesn’t agree with and she is the enemy 😂

    • @wc8246
      @wc8246 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah I know right? It's almost like someone openly stating bigoted opinions changes people's minds about them, so strange and never before heard of.

    • @Joshisepic2222
      @Joshisepic2222 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah turns out that hating a minority makes people tend to dislike a lady

    • @ImDehydrate
      @ImDehydrate ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@wc8246 ahh yes, thinking sex exists is bigoted 🤡

    • @MichaelM28
      @MichaelM28 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wc8246Stating that men aren't women is not bigoted snowflake

    • @MichaelM28
      @MichaelM28 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Joshisepic2222normal people hate that minority too so 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @Goldenwhitewings
    @Goldenwhitewings ปีที่แล้ว

    3:39 how dare you

    • @zaristophanes
      @zaristophanes ปีที่แล้ว

      M’aiq means the opposite?

  • @DaveMan1K
    @DaveMan1K ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After the Hogwarts Legacy harassment campaign, I bought all of the Harry Potter books, and gave away my DVDs of the movies.
    Just remember what the supposed "good guys" did and are still doing.

    • @beeeeeesbury
      @beeeeeesbury ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What? 😂

    • @DaveMan1K
      @DaveMan1K ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beeeeeesbury
      th-cam.com/video/o1-0ERRgGco/w-d-xo.html

    • @badbeardbill9956
      @badbeardbill9956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine caring that much, lmao

    • @DaveMan1K
      @DaveMan1K ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badbeardbill9956
      You think supporting cyberbullies is okay?

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@DaveMan1KYou think supporting Biggeted people is
      1 person being an a****** doesn't Excuse the first person being an asshole
      For example
      Just because They were against the nazis Does not make Soviet Russia good.

  • @DaveMan1K
    @DaveMan1K 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rowling is demonised for saying men and women are fundamentally different.
    Whereas Tennant gets awarded by saying a black woman who thinks differently than he does shouldn't live.
    One of these is not like the other.

    • @ClayCampbell
      @ClayCampbell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When did he say she shouldn’t be alive?

    • @DaveMan1K
      @DaveMan1K 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ClayCampbell
      th-cam.com/video/P9E9SxEvxG0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=s8Y8m4rqiDQqpEIs
      The "progressives" should see that as racism and misogyny, but those pigs won't cause this woman has "wrong think".

  • @satyathota9546
    @satyathota9546 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guys, thought experiment about Rowling here. Rowling's views on the trans issue weren't known back then (and I honestly don't think they were the same), so she could have lucked in to getting to write a Doctor Who episode.
    If she had written an episode, would her detractors in this comment section try to retroactively disavow her episode from the fandom? Would you blindly label it as bad/off limits without considering its merits? Would Harbo do a video on that episode? Would you unsubscribe from his channel if he said positive things about her writing, especially considering the episode itself would contain nothing controversial?
    Would like some answers please

    • @glowstoneunknown
      @glowstoneunknown ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think most people would dislike it either way, because it's a bad idea for an episode. It's just sucking up to JK Rowling, regardless of the fact she would later be found out to be a bad person, writing a whole script about a well-known author just to get her to appear on the show is just plain cringeworthy.

    • @Alistair-gi3bx
      @Alistair-gi3bx ปีที่แล้ว +4

      People love unicorn and the wasp but the writer has said plenty of things on par with rowling. No you disavow the person, you can give credit to where it is deserved for the story and once you know their yikesy takes you would hope that the person doesn't get to write for the show in the future. Are you honestly hoping to have your questions answered or do you have an axe to grind?

    • @beeeeeesbury
      @beeeeeesbury ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have called the episode bad regardless of her being a cunt, it would have been bad.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People don't blindly label Rowling's writing as bad. They read it and analyse it first.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alistair-gi3bx - It's weird, isn't it. OP seems to want there to be a scenario where we're forced to accept, forgive, or ignore Rowling's transphobia... because there was a good episode of Dr Who?
      Far better authors than her have earned my contempt with their views, and I revel in knowing that I'm enjoying their art without their approval.

  • @Electrobadgr
    @Electrobadgr ปีที่แล้ว +6

    JK Rowling did nothing wrong

    • @beeeeeesbury
      @beeeeeesbury ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She's a privileged cunt, stop licking her boot.

    • @greenhowie
      @greenhowie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She's made many aggressive posts on her X profile in the past that contain swearing, one notable example being when she "accidentally" pasted an offensive comment replying to a child. No matter what you think you have to admit that's a bit fucked up in the head for a famous children's author.

    • @toyotatacoma1616
      @toyotatacoma1616 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never mind politics, she wrote bad books.

  • @filozica867
    @filozica867 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would have loved to see j.k in doctor who. Just because she made a comment. She is hated, around the world, by some woke nonsence people. All she said was. There are two genders? That does not mean that she hates transgender... I love her

    • @wc8246
      @wc8246 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A few things, she said one her her friends was fired from her job for saying "a woman is a woman" when in fact, she was bullying trans people on her twitter account, which was very publicly linked to her place of work, her work then decided that because of how it was making them look, they would not renew her yearly contract. Her saying that she was fired for saying a woman is a women is untrue, why does JK insist that it was a mere question that got her fire, not deliberate bullying? Seems sus.
      She supported the "rapid onset gender dysphoria" study, which took children who were by no means trans (one of them was thought to be trans because he played with a doll once, literally) then, after the study was done, all of the children who could not be contacted were considered to have de-transitioned, the problem, however is 1) There was no evidence they were trans to begin with, and 2) they had no evidence to suggest they de-transitioned. Anyone should be able to see how dishonest that study was, and how it was made to get a specific result. Her parroting that study thinking it is serious, unbiased, and accurate, is so staggeringly dishonest I can only assume malice.

    • @beeeeeesbury
      @beeeeeesbury ปีที่แล้ว

      "Woke nonsense" is baseline humanity, grow up and stop being such a snowflake.

    • @arubinojr5670
      @arubinojr5670 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "a comment." Parody at this point.

    • @badbeardbill9956
      @badbeardbill9956 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah yes a singular comment. Not that this is a known thing and has been for a few years…

    • @MichaelM28
      @MichaelM28 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wc8246ok groomer

  • @jamescarter8357
    @jamescarter8357 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    harbo go one video without slandering someone as transphobic to try and discredit all they've ever done challenge (impossible)

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC ปีที่แล้ว +2

      JK Rowling is transphobic.

    • @Jplays23
      @Jplays23 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's not slander when she is openly a transphobe though? It's fact. She is a transphobe.

    • @travelservices1200
      @travelservices1200 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jplays23 Evidence, please?

    • @Jplays23
      @Jplays23 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@travelservices1200 have you missed the various Twitter rants, her funding of groups now noted as hate groups, and her association with infamous far right people?
      Assuming you have then try videos by contrapoints or illuminautea (probably wrong spelling and I can't link because I'm on mobile) as ones that I personally have watched for an explanation, though there are many others

    • @travelservices1200
      @travelservices1200 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Jplays23 I have read some of what I understand to be her reviled tweets, and while they may have been less than diplomatic (and likely were influenced by her own history as a victim of abuse) I didn't take them as full-on transphobic, (thus my question about evidence) just concerned that there are situations in which a woman who had been, for instance, abused by a man, might not want a non-transitioned transwoman to be too close, at least in the short term, even though that person is truly and perfectly safe to be around and has nothing but the best of intentions.
      I don't think it's a simple situation, though, and Twitter is not a good place for nuance, of course, which is one reason I try to avoid it. And it's certainly possible I've missed more problematic tweets. I know nothing about Rowling funding hate groups (apart from HMRC...ha ha), but she certainly doesn't strike me as a Kid Rock-type, shooting cases of beer because the manufacturer had a trans person to appear in their Super Bowl ad. Now THAT was both hateful and frankly should have been embarrassing to him, but I fear he has little capacity for that. Perhaps I'm wrong. I don't think even THAT person should be unfairly vilified.
      I guess that's really my concern. I think there is room for discussion between the trans community and Rowling, though there's been a fair amount of bad blood already that could get in the way. Now, I can understand why the trans community is...I don't know what the proper word is...Tense? Frustrated? Impatient? All of the above and more? It's a VERY difficult world into which to be born trans, particularly with people acting like Kid Rock. But there are degrees of error, and differences of point of view that can exist without any malice intended, and people can say things that come across badly when they don't mean any derogation. Everyone is trying to figure things out as they go along, and the universe is very big and confusing and often frightening, even for billionaire authors...and, I suppose (trying to practice what I preach) for rock "stars", though I have less sympathy for the likes of Kid Rock.
      I'm not really interested in watching videos detailing a third party's take on such things--I'd rather watch videos about Doctor Who. I think it's more edifying. It certainly IS interesting to imagine what would be the current status of a former episode in which JKR appeared, given her currently being in bad odour with the trans community, to borrow a phrase from Hannibal Lecter. I find snideness and cattiness--whether against JKR or Mark Gatiss or whomever--to be other than impressive, but those little bits of personal distaste on my part are more than overshadowed by Harbo's excellent discussion, commentary and knowledge. Everyone has their own axes to grind, obviously, and he is of course, entitled to say what he wishes in the videos he makes. I know I always like them.

  • @time_for_toast4922
    @time_for_toast4922 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That sarcastic transphobic comment about J.K. Rowling was way too strong. Enough to change my like to a dislike.

    • @ThetaSigma-vu1sk
      @ThetaSigma-vu1sk ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Tell me one single person who asked

    • @time_for_toast4922
      @time_for_toast4922 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ThetaSigma-vu1sk if you care so little, why take the time to respond in the first place?

    • @ThetaSigma-vu1sk
      @ThetaSigma-vu1sk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@time_for_toast4922 I never said I don't care, you seem to have misread my reply. I'm not surprised you're illiterate, you support Rowling. Now tell me who asked.

    • @BaloonBoy7
      @BaloonBoy7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Maybe take a minute to consider why you so dislike someone calling out transphobia lol

    • @time_for_toast4922
      @time_for_toast4922 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BaloonBoy7 there's a difference between calling out, and viciously mocking.

  • @MichaelM28
    @MichaelM28 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for confirming you hate women

  • @Andrew-up3dr
    @Andrew-up3dr ปีที่แล้ว +18

    JK Rowling is not transphobic for saying facts

    • @emilia22
      @emilia22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe, but she is transphobic for saying and doing transphobic things

    • @jamesbaker2092
      @jamesbaker2092 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Which facts are you talking about?
      Her support for Maya Forstater?
      Her Horrific opinion piece 'Terf wars'
      Calling trans healthcare a new form of 'conversion therapy'
      Her recent collaboration with members of the heritage foundation
      Her insinuation trans rights are 'a threat to women'
      Describing the trans rights movement as a 'powerful, insidious, misogynistic movement'.
      Oh wait, none of that is fact, it's all her own, unfiltered, dogshit opinion.

    • @Cheesusful
      @Cheesusful ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope she's transphobic because she pretends to be an ally whilst actively fighting pro trans legislation, presents opinions as "facts" and uses harmful rhetoric whilst crying "won't somebody think of the children"... Amongst other things.

    • @badbeardbill9956
      @badbeardbill9956 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

  • @CyborgCharlotte
    @CyborgCharlotte ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Bog Men alien concept is pretty cool honestly. Kinda biased because I’m kinda fascinated by real world stuff like Bog Bodies, but still😅

  • @CyborgCharlotte
    @CyborgCharlotte ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Sonic Doom” sounds like either a Yugioh card or a Sonic The Hedgehog/DOOM crossover mod

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC ปีที่แล้ว

      OK, if Who can do "what if this person's imagination became real" episodes, I would definitely like to see that but with the person being the inventor of a Sonic/DOOM crossover mod.

    • @CyborgCharlotte
      @CyborgCharlotte ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FTZPLTC Or just a video game in general. Going inside computers is such a common sci fi trope, it’s surprising Doctor Who is yet to tackle it. Or did it? This show’s been around for 60 years, give me a break 😅

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CyborgCharlotte - I thought it'd be fun to have an episode that seems like it's set in a video game - something like Dead Space or Silent Hill. But then eventually it turns out that the monsters aren't virtual - they're just cloned meat-puppets with AI in them, because it's cheaper and less processor intensive than trying to program good raytracing. Cue the Doc getting hella angry and burning the place to the ground.

    • @CyborgCharlotte
      @CyborgCharlotte ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FTZPLTC Oooooh! Might steal that idea for my own sci fi stories :P

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CyborgCharlotte Call it "Spawn Point" and name a villain character who dies horribly after me pls. =)