I would have never fogured this out, you ar tru genius, had to say thx u for this... I thought I needed a new stator, even went to online and they were no help. So the safety for kick starter red wire needs cut. Im goin back to banshee's this is crazy---
It looks like the red cable is connected to the rotor rotation direction detection coil resistance, which he says in a different comment is part of an old system with kick start that checks if the motor rotates backwards so the system won't start. After doing a lot of research, I now know it's partly true, but I can't say if it has any effect on the system. I need to check if the CDI unit needs the signal or not. The Raptor starts in the video, so it looks like the CDI unit doesn't need the signal. This is just one of the problems that can appear with the stator. If this helps, great, but if not, you need to measure the wires coming from the stator. At the white connector between all three, you need to measure the resistance between 0.42 and 0.65 ohms (these are the phase windings) Between the white/red and white/green wires, you need to measure between 445 and 545 ohms (these are the pickup wires) And between the red wire and the white/blue wire, you need to measure between 0.069 and 0.085 ohms. (This is the rotor rotation checker.) If the rotor rotation checker is out of range, go for it. If there's outstanding mismatching in one of the other two, change the damn thing.
Hello, did the same thing happen to you as in the video? what is the red wire? I have the same problem and I have cut the red cable and it works. but what is the red wire?
I left my bike alone for two months no issues. When I went back to it it was completely off. I have two twins raptors. The battery is just fine but the bike makes no preignition sounds and does not light up as if the bike is dead. I checked most of the connectors and I do have power but still no electrical to start. No lights and no neutral lights have you ever had this. I ordered new stater rectifier and plug I’ve already replaced the fuse. I’m stuck
Cut the wire. These motors were originally used on a street bike motor with a kick start. The red wire was a safty shop the bike wouldn't start backward. It is a comen short in your stator that can usually be fixed by cutting the wire.
Hemmm, so your saying you have the bike running and iddling. You then grab the spark plug wire insulator (spark plug cap) and remove it from the plug. You then hold the plug insulator close to the spark plug and check for spark. You see and have good spark untill you hit your throttle. Is that right? Did you unplug your rectifier and see if that changed anything? Have you tested your stator?.Checked all connections and wire harness? CDI units rarely ever fail, its almost alwase something elce.
Can you tell me if this is the same wire for the reverse limiter? reading the below link and watching your vid, I think it is. (faq can't post weblinks) regardless thanks for the vid.
The 01 rectifier is mounted on the rear, just like yours is. The bike in the vid is a 03 & the rectifier is mounted different. The red wire you must cut is in the same spot for all years, just follow the video.
I have a 03 as well. It would not start. I plugged it in and left it while I went to get a new plug. Put the new plug back in and it fired right up. Now when I shut it off its right back to having no spark. What the heck could be wrong?
I have a 01 wen I unplugged the recktafire I got spark I didn't cut the red wire cause Its not located in the same place as you my recktafire wasn't in the same place either mine was on the back I was wondering where the wire goes so I can find it and cut it and for sum reason now I don't get fire Evan wit the recktafire unplugged and I haven't Evan cut the red wire
No, its will not harm anything. Its a wire from the older kick start model, from when the moto was on a bike..its a short that happens, they wire is a safety so the motor wouldn't start in reverse with a kick start model...also, no its NOT the same wire as the reverse limiter...that wire must be grounded to remove the limiter,& its green & white striped...
hello banshee2raptor I have this same problem today, I have cut the red cable and the raptor comes back to life, now what is that red cable? Is it harmful to leave it like this? or nothing happens and I can be calm.
@@JesusGomez-gr6zm hola por lo que tengo entendido ese cable es del sensor del giro del motor o algo así, no pasa nada por cortarlo, puede que tengas el stator malo te carga la batería y todo bien?
hola carlos, pues llevo una semana buscando el problema y cambiando piezas hasta que hoy vi el video y lo he cortado esta tarde y consegui arrancarlo no he llegado a probarlo
Is there anything I could have did wrong to make it stop firing again Evan tho I haven't cut da red wire yet or do I have to cut it to get it back firing
I have had the same issue with my 04 raptor, did not have spark, I unplugged the round plug with the 3 white wires and regained ignition but no charging, was working on it today with everything plugged in as it should be and I have spark again and charging. Any ideas as to what maybe going on would be much appreciated, thanks for your time
@@tommyshakur9138 yes.,and really clean them good. I'm not saying you didn't, but it's really important to get ever little passage and piece clean clean clean clean... Especially on the 660!!
I unplug the spark wire with the raptor started but close to the sparkplug. There I can see the spark power disappearing when I hit the gas. "Cdi or coil)". ? Any help
Hay man i have a question to ask you I see you have some nice Raptors I have an 04 and it's running very poorly when it's cold it fires up and runs good but once it warms up it spits and sputters and cuts out and dies on me it seems like antifreeze is getting into my engine oil and when I pulled the spark plug out to check the spark it has good spark but it's not blue it's yellowish orangish doesn't seem right to me I feel like it should have a blue Spark any advice from anyone
Oh wow! I was just about to and buy a new ICM that increases RPM rev limit by 1000!? It said in the description check you stator first! I'm gonna do that first. What does the rectifier do then if it doesn't need to be plugged in?
it's a short in the stator. Long story short ,cutting the red wire fixes the short. to truly fix the issue the stator needs to be replaced. however cutting the wire is a cheep easy way to get back in the trail.
I have a 04 660r that only gets a single spark the moment I let off the start button. If I unplug the rectifier I get a great spark. Do you think it’s my stator? I don’t not have a solid red wire or n mine. Any tips to figure this out?
dethinc1 The Rectifier/Regulator isn't the issue here, it's the Stator. Yes replacing the Stator would be ideal, but this will in most cases get you going until you can get a new Stator..
Actually, if you do the mod correctly it will charge the battery. If you just unplug the rectifier/regulator it will start but will NOT charge the battery.
Ive just tried this. I have no spark. If i disconnected the regulator. I still have no spark. I have no power to the coil. Anyone know what the possible problem is.
Not sure if you would know but my 06 700 will start but won’t rev I dropped it off they said it might be a bad wire harness or cdi does that sound right?
Hot_top, it's more than likely your brake safety switch. A video might help! I can talk you threw the steps to test it.. it's a very easy fix, if that's your issue.
There's a switch on the front brake and on the rear. Even if it's unplugged , it can still get crap in it and cause a faulse brake condition. I recommend finding the switches and make sure they are disabled correctly, or working correctly. This is a common issue with Yamaha in general..lol
No, if you have no spark and unplug your rectifier and still have no spark this will not fix your issue. What exactly is going on with your bike? I recomend joining Raptor Forum .com, I am Banshee2Raptor on the forum. We can help....:)
I would have never fogured this out, you ar tru genius, had to say thx u for this... I thought I needed a new stator, even went to online and they were no help. So the safety for kick starter red wire needs cut. Im goin back to banshee's this is crazy---
It looks like the red cable is connected to the rotor rotation direction detection coil resistance, which he says in a different comment is part of an old system with kick start that checks if the motor rotates backwards so the system won't start. After doing a lot of research, I now know it's partly true, but I can't say if it has any effect on the system. I need to check if the CDI unit needs the signal or not. The Raptor starts in the video, so it looks like the CDI unit doesn't need the signal.
This is just one of the problems that can appear with the stator. If this helps, great, but if not, you need to measure the wires coming from the stator.
At the white connector between all three, you need to measure the resistance between 0.42 and 0.65 ohms (these are the phase windings)
Between the white/red and white/green wires, you need to measure between 445 and 545 ohms (these are the pickup wires)
And between the red wire and the white/blue wire, you need to measure between 0.069 and 0.085 ohms. (This is the rotor rotation checker.)
If the rotor rotation checker is out of range, go for it. If there's outstanding mismatching in one of the other two, change the damn thing.
my raptor is back to life and running like new again thank u for this video can't even believe I just had to cut a wire thank u so much
Hello, did you charge the battery with the red cable cut?
Worked for me!!! Thank you so much!! Money$ had spark every once in awhile. Never really. Fired right up. Have a great 2020!
Glad it helped my friend, you also have a good 2020!!
This just helped me a ton..was looking for days for my problem and bam here it is..thanks!!
chad wicoff glad it helped!!
Thanks heaps worked just like you said and still charges...
thank you so much for this video you help my
Hello, did the same thing happen to you as in the video? what is the red wire? I have the same problem and I have cut the red cable and it works.
but what is the red wire?
this vid got yet another 660 goin again thanks didnt hav to dick around with the stator
I left my bike alone for two months no issues. When I went back to it it was completely off. I have two twins raptors. The battery is just fine but the bike makes no preignition sounds and does not light up as if the bike is dead. I checked most of the connectors and I do have power but still no electrical to start. No lights and no neutral lights have you ever had this. I ordered new stater rectifier and plug I’ve already replaced the fuse. I’m stuck
Thanks.
Got mine working again.
I have 660 and its not sparking either can i get some help with it
Will the reverse light still work like it should with the red wire cut
This helped a lot! Thanks so much! Saved me money! I owe you a beer!
Cut the wire. These motors were originally used on a street bike motor with a kick start. The red wire was a safty shop the bike wouldn't start backward. It is a comen short in your stator that can usually be fixed by cutting the wire.
works like you said, thanks buddy
Glad to hear it!
Will cutting this red wire effect your battery to charge when running?
Thank you. Just fixed my 05 Grizzly
Hemmm, so your saying you have the bike running and iddling. You then grab the spark plug wire insulator (spark plug cap) and remove it from the plug. You then hold the plug insulator close to the spark plug and check for spark. You see and have good spark untill you hit your throttle. Is that right?
Did you unplug your rectifier and see if that changed anything? Have you tested your stator?.Checked all connections and wire harness? CDI units rarely ever fail, its almost alwase something elce.
Can you tell me if this is the same wire for the reverse limiter? reading the below link and watching your vid, I think it is. (faq can't post weblinks)
regardless thanks for the vid.
What wire is it exactly? There are 2 plugs with red wires. I have a 2003 raptor 660r no spark issue
The 01 rectifier is mounted on the rear, just like yours is. The bike in the vid is a 03 & the rectifier is mounted different. The red wire you must cut is in the same spot for all years, just follow the video.
If i cut that red wire it will no charge batery anymore?it's a temporary solution?must buy new stator?thanks
Great video
Thank u so much worked just like u said
Glad to hear it!
Prendera pero no les cargara la bateria mejor es canbiar el stator para q no tengan problemas
can you describe the red wire...the one I'm looking at looks like a sort of braided rope looking wire...could that be the right one??
Este preva no funsiona va aranquar pero no va acaminar la moto
Than you man. Waw. Safe time and money.
I have a 03 as well. It would not start. I plugged it in and left it while I went to get a new plug. Put the new plug back in and it fired right up. Now when I shut it off its right back to having no spark. What the heck could be wrong?
I have a 01 wen I unplugged the recktafire I got spark I didn't cut the red wire cause Its not located in the same place as you my recktafire wasn't in the same place either mine was on the back I was wondering where the wire goes so I can find it and cut it and for sum reason now I don't get fire Evan wit the recktafire unplugged and I haven't Evan cut the red wire
If I were to just replace the stater would it fix the problem the same way
No, its will not harm anything. Its a wire from the older kick start model, from when the moto was on a bike..its a short that happens, they wire is a safety so the motor wouldn't start in reverse with a kick start model...also, no its NOT the same wire as the reverse limiter...that wire must be grounded to remove the limiter,& its green & white striped...
hello banshee2raptor I have this same problem today, I have cut the red cable and the raptor comes back to life, now what is that red cable? Is it harmful to leave it like this? or nothing happens and I can be calm.
De donde biene el fallo 😮
Glad to help guys.
Would this work on a 2004yahama warrior too if so let me know please an thank you
Eres un crack hermano!! Goood very good
Hola Carlos yo corte el cable como en el vídeo y funciona perfectamente, pero ese cable que es? Es perjudicial cortarlo??
@@JesusGomez-gr6zm hola por lo que tengo entendido ese cable es del sensor del giro del motor o algo así, no pasa nada por cortarlo, puede que tengas el stator malo te carga la batería y todo bien?
hola carlos, pues llevo una semana buscando el problema y cambiando piezas hasta que hoy vi el video y lo he cortado esta tarde y consegui arrancarlo no he llegado a probarlo
@@CARLOS-ur5sd tendria que probarlo un dia de estos, porque leyendo los comentarios de la gente, no llego a saber exactamente que es
Is there anything I could have did wrong to make it stop firing again Evan tho I haven't cut da red wire yet or do I have to cut it to get it back firing
I need more information than that. how did the problem start?
if you cut the right wire it will charge when running just fine.
Would you still be able to bump start it like that I have one that cranks but won't start but I can jump start and runs fine
Check to make sure your rectifier is plugged in and tught. If that's unplugged you won't change your battery.
I have had the same issue with my 04 raptor, did not have spark, I unplugged the round plug with the 3 white wires and regained ignition but no charging, was working on it today with everything plugged in as it should be and I have spark again and charging. Any ideas as to what maybe going on would be much appreciated, thanks for your time
Hey bro I did just like u said and it work but now the bike just roll and fires like it want to start but won't stay running
Any advice
@@tommyshakur9138 when was the last time you cleaned your carbs?
Like a week ago..
Do u think I should clean it again
@@tommyshakur9138 yes.,and really clean them good. I'm not saying you didn't, but it's really important to get ever little passage and piece clean clean clean clean... Especially on the 660!!
could i just cut the red wire after the plug? so i dont ruin my cdi cableing?
will this fix it if i pull my recitifier cable off the recietifer and it still doesnt spark?
I unplug the spark wire with the raptor started but close to the sparkplug. There I can see the spark power disappearing when I hit the gas. "Cdi or coil)". ? Any help
Will this work on a 2002 660 grizzly?
Yes, I believe so, give it a try and let us know. Or maybe make a Grizz 660 video.. either way best of luck!!
Look at your video it worked for me but it does not maintain the battery, what can I do about it
You need change your stator my friend or CDI box
Hay man i have a question to ask you I see you have some nice Raptors I have an 04 and it's running very poorly when it's cold it fires up and runs good but once it warms up it spits and sputters and cuts out and dies on me it seems like antifreeze is getting into my engine oil and when I pulled the spark plug out to check the spark it has good spark but it's not blue it's yellowish orangish doesn't seem right to me I feel like it should have a blue Spark any advice from anyone
Good luck, just be sure to cut the right red wire....
Oh wow! I was just about to and buy a new ICM that increases RPM rev limit by 1000!? It said in the description check you stator first! I'm gonna do that first. What does the rectifier do then if it doesn't need to be plugged in?
aedan929 Cinematics and Motovlogs the rectifier allows the battery to charge. When it is unplugged the battery will Not charge.
Banshee2Raptor omg I love you (no homo)! It worked! I just got it running again! Why didn’t I think of this!? Lol
it's a short in the stator. Long story short ,cutting the red wire fixes the short. to truly fix the issue the stator needs to be replaced. however cutting the wire is a cheep easy way to get back in the trail.
Will it charge battery with red wire cut? Thats my only concern, rather just put stator in.
The hissing or popping sound in my vid is the compression escaping from the spark plug hole. I had the plug out for the whole video.
Im not sure..if ya haven't go back and read all the comments to my video, that will explain what the red wire is for on a Yamaha 660 based motor.
I have the same problem with my raptor... but never tried the red wire trick
Aye man plz help I did it on mine and it didn't work what else can I do
Help plz
I have a 04 660r that only gets a single spark the moment I let off the start button. If I unplug the rectifier I get a great spark. Do you think it’s my stator? I don’t not have a solid red wire or n mine. Any tips to figure this out?
Your stator is more than likely shorted, you should have the Red wire.. might have to do some hunting, but its there from the factory.
Why not replace faulty rectifier..?
dethinc1 The Rectifier/Regulator isn't the issue here, it's the Stator. Yes replacing the Stator would be ideal, but this will in most cases get you going until you can get a new Stator..
Actually, if you do the mod correctly it will charge the battery. If you just unplug the rectifier/regulator it will start but will NOT charge the battery.
this fix works but if you cut that wire the atv will not charge the battery when is running...
Why not just unplug the connector of the red wire vs. cutting it?
Michael Lawrence you can unplugs the connector and pull the pin out. it's just easier to show the correct red wire to disable by cutting .
glad it was helpful.
Ok i have a 2005 raptor that is running fine but not charging batt what could be the problem
Hello, did you manage to solve the problem? I had the same problem cut the red cable and boot and it worked
Si tefonsiona este preva no voy atrabajar mas mecanica 😂😂😂😂
Hey bro what’s up I’m having trouble power to the bike when I turn the key switch I get no lights any advice
Check all your connections from the battery, and make sure you have a good battery to start with.
Where you able to get it to work is over a yr old
Ive just tried this. I have no spark. If i disconnected the regulator. I still have no spark. I have no power to the coil. Anyone know what the possible problem is.
Not sure if you would know but my 06 700 will start but won’t rev I dropped it off they said it might be a bad wire harness or cdi does that sound right?
Hot_top, it's more than likely your brake safety switch. A video might help! I can talk you threw the steps to test it.. it's a very easy fix, if that's your issue.
The parking brake is capped off on the back would it still get stuck there’s no cord or lever on the handle bars
Banshee2Raptor .
There's a switch on the front brake and on the rear. Even if it's unplugged , it can still get crap in it and cause a faulse brake condition. I recommend finding the switches and make sure they are disabled correctly, or working correctly. This is a common issue with Yamaha in general..lol
Ill check that but my luck it’s always more lol if you have raptor form add me hottop1234
I got a 06 raptor 660 and I think I got the same issue
I have changed all electric components still no spark help
Already a solution ?
@@steven-mj1yi mine was spark plug boot passed all tests but got new one screwed it on and bam fire
@@devshewitt4809 that costed you way more than it should 😕
Yeah you right I promise I’ll never just throw parts at something again and start at most basic part but been great ever since!!
Spark power disappear when I hit the gas around 5rpm.
No, if you have no spark and unplug your rectifier and still have no spark this will not fix your issue. What exactly is going on with your bike? I recomend joining Raptor Forum .com, I am Banshee2Raptor on the forum. We can help....:)
If any1 can answer my last ? It will be greatly appreciated
If you have a 06 than its a 700 (686cc), the 660 was discontinued after 05..
And girls.:)