Since I didn't saw it anywhere: 0:40 - Kuva Brakk 1:10 - Kuva Karak 1:34 - Kuva Hind 1:52 - Kuva Nukor 2:20 - Kuva Kraken 3:01 - Kuva Grattler 3:10 - Kuva Tonkor 3:47 - Kuva Stubbas 4:02 - Kuva Ayanga 4:20 - Kuva Bramma 4:47 - Kuva Zarr 4:57 - Kuva Drakgoon 5:41 - Kuva Chakkhurr (only S tier if you are impatient) 6:24 - Kuva Seer 6:42 - Kuva Quartakk 7:09 - Kuva Sobek 7:51- Kuva Hek 8:29 - Kuva Shildeg 8:30 - Kuva Ogris 9:07 - Kuva Kohm
Idc if people call me a metaslave for using bramma it's awesome and satisfying. A bow with clusterbomb arrows will never not be awesome and the sound effects are crisp.
People are more likely to call you a nostalgia slave as it hasn’t been meta since the ammo nerf. I now only see it recommended for solo stealth focus farms.
@@MEYH3M I think you underestimate the shear area of coverage and damage the bramma STILL has. Pre-nerf Bramma, especially because it was nerfed more than once, would still be meta. It is still recommended for solo stealth focus farms because of how fast it can clear rooms. Even the mighty Torid incarnon is slower for that purpose. The problem is that even on those extermination runs they do for focus, you have problems with ammo if you're not careful with your shots.
@@Nureha-VII got another as impact just to get impact for Valencia Infusion. So yes my chackurr is impact. Why? Because of the internal bleeding turns it to slash.
As the one person who uses the kuva quartakk, the bleed damage you can gain from the weapon using munitions can reach pretty high numbers and it has a solid riven desposition
Yeah, it's not bad at all. I did the Steel Path when it came out with a friend and he had a Kuva Quartakk with a decent riven. He was slapping pretty good with it, so I'm still hoping I'll get a riven for it and really give it a try.
You should try adding blast. I have cold on my riven and a heat progenitor quartakk, so I still have room for hunter munitions and elementalist. It destroys groups with the blast, and the slash procs help with larger targets and an additional status for gun CO
@@sams3493 idk if he acts as if all incarnons are so much better than everything else, while its honestly just torid being braindead strong, to get players to move on from the old (but still ongoing) aoe-meta. if it wasnt for the extreme ammo nerf, i dont think incarnons would have even got the attention they now have.
Just depends on enemy density Also if u play a frame with fire/reload speed buffs (like Wisp/Gauss/Volt), tombfinger with the battery pax arcane is very spammable (albeit somewhat less damage per hit)
I use the Kuva Khom as my Valence Formation weapon on Lavos, built for status with viral heat and slash on the gun, add corrosive on top and it clears hallways pretty easily. Add a couple green shards to the frame you're running and it strips armor lightning fast as well. Secret tech: Primary Plated Round. It has a 200+ round mag, so it gets something like 600% more damage for 10 seconds on reload, and with a bit of fire rate it can dump an entire 200 rounds in that 10 seconds. Amazing raw damage.
Honestly. Alot of ppl might and will disagree but im super tired of incarnon weapons. I find them overrated. We're in a meta where new players are just ignoring everyother insane weapon and focusing only on incarnon. weapons.
which other insane weapons? Kuva and tenet weapons? You can get incarnon weapons with way less effort and at the moment they are objectively the best weapons in the game (torid, despair, laetum, phenmor, felarx etc.).
It’s because they just are the meta, but you’re ignoring things like the epitaph and kuva nukor which are still popular as primers. For melee very few use the incarnon melee for anything but a stat stick. Hell people promote the praedos just because it makes you faster and say nothing about it having stats good enough to make even with Kronen Prime. The glaives, Exodia contagion, and few other non incarnons are what I usually see when people want to use a melee for damage.
@@mariosmatzoros3553 you got several, cedo, the other versions of the hek. Fulmin, ignis, The list can continue. Also i mentioned new players. So steel path isnt open for them to even touch incarnon weapons.
@@SiverFangBlackWing thats my point, yes they are objectively better. I just dont agree with only making them the focus for newer players when so many great guns are available.
@@jfern0927 They still can get the phenmor, praedos, innodem, felarx and laetum. Also, there's no point in getting the other versions of the hek now that scatter justice works on the kuva hek.
Kuva Brakk is my go-to secondary. Coupled with the Synth mods that reload your weapon when it's holstered, its a blast to swap to it in the middle of a melee combo to demolish Overguarded units on demand.
@ you anyway... I enable the Citrine light show with my Cedo alt-fire. Bouncing explosive glaives that force status effects on top of their actual base status chance.
My case for the Ayanga is that EDA made heavy weapons a somewhat reliable thing you can use to clear the whole thing when you don't like your weapon options for the week. If you have the best mods for archguns, the thing absolutely melts the murmur.
I would love to see some kuva weapon specific mods or arcanes you could get from the whole lich hunting process that would buff these weapons again. Or maybe by default all kuva weapons had an innate damage to faction multiplier? Idk, maybe thats too much power creep. I dont think these weapons need to be top tier but it would be nice if they had a niche. I also think it would be fantastic to get more kuva and tenet weapons to our collection. Old standbys like the atterax for example. Twin kohmak, jat kittag, or hey kuva ignis anyone? I wonder if any of these kuva weapons will get incarnons or if those are specifically tenno/prime weapons only.
Only thing i would change is i'd swap the tonkor for the Bramma. Reason being the tonkor has way less ammo issues, i mean i ve been using it A LOT recently and it gets the job done and as far as i can tell 0 issues with ammo, while the bramma still gives me issues with ammo once in a while and for me any weapon with ammo issues is basicly a dead weapon. For an even easier time, play with mirage eclipse and clones and get urself an even bigger explosion with a lot more dmg that can go to lvl cap. Atm these weapons feel like they are worlds apart in my opinion. Great Vid Leyzar!!
To be honest, beyond the meme, i'd love to see what a kuva stug would look like. It wouldn't be completely stupid, like, the seer and the kraken were meme weapons too. Making a surprinsingly functionnal stug (not even a beast of a weapon) would be kinda cool IMO
Chakkhurr was my go to until incarnons but still rock the nukor since the way i built it was status and damage and works beautifully as a secondary for me
Dubba Stubbas are the upgraded Twin Grakatas that we all wanted. If you can give the chak a pass because circuit reload, you can do the same for them and have a complete monster on your hands.
Nukor and Brakk are probably my most used Kuva Weapons, and Chakkur my most powerful, but Hind+Kraken is how I have the most fun :3 (*Haven't gotten the Sobek yet, and all my Kuva Weapons have rivens)
I know I'm a little late to this video, but with the new Cold rework, the Kuva Dragoon(Cold) is actually good for CC. If you point blank an enemy, it insta freezes. The ricochet shrapnel builds procs with every hit and freezes enemies quickly.
Ever since the ammo nerf on AOE weapons, the KuvaTonk has been one of my constant go-to weapons for the great majority of content. Not only can it still deal pretty decent amounts of damage over a wide area, the ammo on it is still decent enough that you won't have to worry about ever running out, especially if you pair it with a decent secondary as well (in my case I stick with either the secondary Gaze kitgun, or the Cyanex).
I got a Kuva Karak with 86.9% heat, 82.2% status chance and 129.5% cd w/ -92.1% puncture riven (negative impact pls game). 53% built in heat, planning to change it to magnetic or toxin for Corpus. Best little generic kuva assault rifle there is :).
Good video. One thing though, when you're testing your weapons in the simulacrum, you should invest time into getting the Kosma Officers, they are tougher than the Heavy Corrupted Gunners. More fun to test weapons against something that actually can withstand damage
imo kuva bramma and ku a zarr fell off when akarius prime and kuva ogris exist, since pretty much at least on sp status weapons tends to beat pure crits outside of melee
@@anotherlostcause329and this is the exact mentality that is wrong with a lot of people when talking about gear warframe. I was emphasize that im not saying this applies to you but a lot of people who say things like that will say something along the lines of: "Oh it can't deal with damage/level cap, garbage." When in reality 99.999% percent of people A. Don't even do endurance runs. B. Insert weapon will kill everything in the game that isn't a ridiculously high level. C. Doesn't require a gimmicky playstyle for you to use it in quite literally all of the content in the game. It's incredibly frustrating and is very misleading when people say stuff like that. Outside of sp circuit most players will never see anything even rometly close to approaching even level 1000 enemies.
Thing is, whenever I've used the Kuva Bramma recently in just regular missions, I feel like I'm almost constantly watching my ammo and making sure it doesn't drop to zero. That can get pretty annoying. I don't care about any level cap at all and the ammo nerf still annoys me. It especially gets to you if you have used it for a long time before the ammo nerf came through. It feels good to clear rooms, but sometimes you go too fast and skip some ammo, it starts to get annoying. It's not even the damage or level cap ability it has, it just feels clunkier and why use it when there's a lot more other options that come with less pain.
@jaymoh_ because big explosion are fun? I think you really are over emphasizing how hard it is to maintain your ammo with it. Your companion, mods, and warframe, hell even consumables just make ammo a non-issue if you build for it. I literally just spam the thing. Of you are doing stuff with lohk buffs or conjunction survival ammo is even less of a concern because of how often unlimited ammo is, especially if it's a relic mission.
worth noting that all are worth grabbing for circuit grinding as they will show up in place of their lower-tier cousins (kuva hek instead of hek, etc) and are in almost every case far superior to the older versions.
I'm not entirely understanding the rankings here. These weapons have unique quirks and most of them excel at it. Kuva Hek is a single target monster. Thing can 1 shot alt fire up to level about 3k. Kuva Hind is also an absolute sleeper monster of a gun with a very good riven Dispo. Kuva tonkor is the king of aoe weapons right now and extremely easy to use. Kuva nukor is the most used weapon for years on end for a reason. it can be whatever you want it to be.
As a person who came back to the game after 3-4 year abscence, this tier list is very useful form me, good to know if any of these weapons are good or not. My favorites are Bramma, Chakkurr and Drakgoon
Tier list of Warframes “Unique” weapons might be cool. Anything nonstandard would work. It would be easier to say what doesn’t go in the list actually, like basic ARs shotguns akimbos and snipers. Minus the incarnons though.
@@xypherath ahh just haven't gotten my hands on a kuva karak and idk if a viral slash build would be viable or not with it. Cause I do know some weapons are hot garbage with that setup.
Dude. Good list. Ogris needs moved up. It is amazing for farming esp vitus Essence. Any weapon that has a clear use should be at least one from the top. Also Cha-carnage is amazing. I love it for Eidolon hunts.
Personally I don’t like playing “meta” frames and weapons I just play for fun, one day im using the Ambassador, one day im using the Kuva Karak, the next i could use the Burston Incarnon, really depends on how i feel
In my opinion, most weapons in the game should be evaluated by treating the meta as if incarnon weapons just don't exist. Kuva Hind goes hard, but incarnon weapons render every other weapon invalid because they don't have incarnon genesis. And these days everyone says the bad weapons need an incarnon to be good, which is just asinine because these weapons were almost always good. Most of these weapons can be considered s-tier, people just don't care about them because they don't have incarnon. It's like comparing high school football players to the comparatively tiny population of olympic athletes on the planet.
I am a big fan of the Karak, but not really for performance. In a game full of laser guns, over the top bullet hoses, and explosive rounds, just a normal rifle feels special. Also the sounds just hit right.
i think you are overvaluing incarnons as a whole. yes. torid exists and is braindead strong but besides that, the ones you have to charge via headshots can be annoying to charge against murmur and infested and while some can be top tier in endurance, for regular playing (just roomclear) the og aoe weapons still are best, with tonkor being the only one to have enough ammo.
I always used the kuva chakkhurr not just with harrow prime but Al's limbo prime (my most successful Warframes expect for nekros prime) But I'm struggling to find a riven for my kuva chakkhurr what would anyone recommend for a kuva chakkhurr riven (Side note I've used the kuva quartakk before however I've only been able to receive a "reasonable amount of damage" with Harrow's full power and revenant's enthrall argument while maintain my primary deadhead at max)
Kuva grattler does have lower damage than some other weapons on the same category, however it has a greater fire rate and a bigger boom radius utilizing rhino roar and gas procs it can easily make it better than ayang, it should be at least okay in the grade.
I would change Kuva Zarr to F tier, Tonkor to S tier, Ogris to same tier as Bramma whether it's A or S, Grattler to B tier and Chakkhurr to A tier, it's edgy niche gun that has use in one niche playstyle and loses big time in most WF content to AOE guns. It also sucks that it kills with delay, sure HM does the same thing, but it's different when you have to precisely aim at enemy to get that effect and just shooting in vague direction of the enemy by looking at the map. I can't stand how it feels to play, definitely not on par with Tonkor.
Thanks for the big middlefinger to all the people that missed the Unreal Tournament skins... My favourite primary is the Stahlta and i would suck weiner for the Shock Rifle skin
I snagged a kuva zarr and was hyped cause I had fond memories of mastering the Zarr and clearing hallways or deleting clusters of grineer... then I saw FIVE spare rounds... >.> like... what?! 10 shots total as what you carry in? fuuuuuuu.....
I never stopped using the bramma it’s good AF. I still remember the day I got primed fulmination from barro and was nuking in SP Ani and a dude was like “You know they’re gonna nerf that right?” 😂 I’ve always been a bow guy (from the starter bow to Paris Prime to the Cernoses to the Bramma). So its existence is literally perfect for me. I’m not some 12hr survival sweatlord so going an hour in SP and bouncing is good enough for me. When people say “The Bramma is bad now.” What they really mean is “It can’t melt level 9999 enemies.” As if most people do or care about that kind of content.
I just 5 min before watching this send my lich with the bramma to railjack nice to know what i am going to hunt next (either nukor or charko dingsbums)
Got the Brakk when I thought I had to take it. Even after like 1500 logins I cant let go of it. Pocket shotgun go brrrt But other than that your tierlist is spot-on
Not Shure about the kuva hek. But the hek can use shotgun cannonaid mod to increase damage 240 and fixed fire rate. With +200% crit and the ability to get 30+ base multi shot most unarmoured units are dead in 10 ft of my blast
kinda one foot onto the incarnon hate train, not because i think they're not powerful (that would be very stupid) but for useability reasons, especially in fast missions. torid? yep, one body shot is basically all it takes secondaries? whatever just throw a scourge at them and don't even need to aim (unless they're dedicated secondary outburst swap weapons, looking at you vasto) melee? ehhhh at least they're generally quite strong and we don't spend combo with tennokai but generally speaking, primaries? where most of the powerful incarnons are? oof they don't feel good on a like 75% of mission types with a group, and I'm often eyeing up a good kuva/tenet weapon or just one of the stronger standard weapons to do the job, on the kinda missions where incarnons feel bad (imo), the damage really isn't that necessary anyway. and well, i just watched some absolute lunatic kill level cap demo's with a stug so, whatever floats your boat i guess.
The best heavy weapon comes free with a necramech and is still worse than normal weapons. Heavy weapons have so many limitations their mods should really give far more of a bonus then normal weapon mods do. Even if they had to ad more limitations I want that “moment of power” feel that talked about. People already do these expensive builds to one shot demolists Make heavy weapons that and extend the timer or something. Like you might only have it for a very short time but when you have it it’ll kill that one enemy you want dead. I want a tank buster damn it.
Since I didn't saw it anywhere:
0:40 - Kuva Brakk
1:10 - Kuva Karak
1:34 - Kuva Hind
1:52 - Kuva Nukor
2:20 - Kuva Kraken
3:01 - Kuva Grattler
3:10 - Kuva Tonkor
3:47 - Kuva Stubbas
4:02 - Kuva Ayanga
4:20 - Kuva Bramma
4:47 - Kuva Zarr
4:57 - Kuva Drakgoon
5:41 - Kuva Chakkhurr (only S tier if you are impatient)
6:24 - Kuva Seer
6:42 - Kuva Quartakk
7:09 - Kuva Sobek
7:51- Kuva Hek
8:29 - Kuva Shildeg
8:30 - Kuva Ogris
9:07 - Kuva Kohm
This the guy your girl tells you not to worry about right here
@@actuallymesfin exactly
We need a pin 🧷
Idc if people call me a metaslave for using bramma it's awesome and satisfying. A bow with clusterbomb arrows will never not be awesome and the sound effects are crisp.
bramma hasn't been meta for a long time tho
People are more likely to call you a nostalgia slave as it hasn’t been meta since the ammo nerf. I now only see it recommended for solo stealth focus farms.
@@SiverFangBlackWing oh
@@SiverFangBlackWing Even if the Ammo wasn't nerfed it would still not be meta because Incarnon weapons are a big upgrade from Kuva/Tenet.
@@MEYH3M I think you underestimate the shear area of coverage and damage the bramma STILL has. Pre-nerf Bramma, especially because it was nerfed more than once, would still be meta. It is still recommended for solo stealth focus farms because of how fast it can clear rooms. Even the mighty Torid incarnon is slower for that purpose. The problem is that even on those extermination runs they do for focus, you have problems with ammo if you're not careful with your shots.
Kuva Chakkhurr gang 😎 mine hits 13m dmg red crits, rifle that works like a sniper and handles like a shotgun, absolute beast
And is a complete beast when handled by a Harrow.
@@Chico_Julio you sir are a man of great skill and i commend you. I too use this on harrow. Its fucking nuts.
What's your progenitor? Newbie here got mine by accident and its impact sad...
@@Nureha-VII got another as impact just to get impact for Valencia Infusion. So yes my chackurr is impact. Why? Because of the internal bleeding turns it to slash.
I have a kuva chakkhur riven what should i roll for?
Why don't we have more guns that look as awesome as the Unreal Tournament skins 😭
Now that's the real question
As the one person who uses the kuva quartakk, the bleed damage you can gain from the weapon using munitions can reach pretty high numbers and it has a solid riven desposition
I have a pretty good riven for the quartakk so I'm gonna grind for it. For my own enjoyment mostly.
Second person to use the kuva quartakk here, it's a very fun weapon to use honestly, at least for me, fuck meta.
Yeah, it's not bad at all. I did the Steel Path when it came out with a friend and he had a Kuva Quartakk with a decent riven. He was slapping pretty good with it, so I'm still hoping I'll get a riven for it and really give it a try.
You should try adding blast. I have cold on my riven and a heat progenitor quartakk, so I still have room for hunter munitions and elementalist. It destroys groups with the blast, and the slash procs help with larger targets and an additional status for gun CO
@@RoyalTfrii I use it because it's similar to Destiny's Cerberus+1
Quartakk is actually pretty good when you use its zoomed alt fire. Its status becomes insane.
Kuva Tonkor is S Tier . Itself and the Tenet Envoy are the only weapons with a good ammo economy after the aoe ammo nerf
Agreed, really bad take on Kuva Tonkor.
@@sams3493 idk if he acts as if all incarnons are so much better than everything else, while its honestly just torid being braindead strong, to get players to move on from the old (but still ongoing) aoe-meta. if it wasnt for the extreme ammo nerf, i dont think incarnons would have even got the attention they now have.
Just depends on enemy density
Also if u play a frame with fire/reload speed buffs (like Wisp/Gauss/Volt), tombfinger with the battery pax arcane is very spammable (albeit somewhat less damage per hit)
Kuva Ogris is better than envoy imo
@@sams3493 It's good. You Don't wanna ruin riven dispo of tonkor. Less talk is better
I use the Kuva Khom as my Valence Formation weapon on Lavos, built for status with viral heat and slash on the gun, add corrosive on top and it clears hallways pretty easily. Add a couple green shards to the frame you're running and it strips armor lightning fast as well. Secret tech: Primary Plated Round. It has a 200+ round mag, so it gets something like 600% more damage for 10 seconds on reload, and with a bit of fire rate it can dump an entire 200 rounds in that 10 seconds. Amazing raw damage.
Must you mock me with the Unreal skins. I ended up taking a break from Warframe during the last time you could get the skins back in 2021.
Do one for tennet weapons next please !
Grattler hate is crazy I will not tolerate it
Honestly. Alot of ppl might and will disagree but im super tired of incarnon weapons. I find them overrated. We're in a meta where new players are just ignoring everyother insane weapon and focusing only on incarnon. weapons.
which other insane weapons? Kuva and tenet weapons? You can get incarnon weapons with way less effort and at the moment they are objectively the best weapons in the game (torid, despair, laetum, phenmor, felarx etc.).
It’s because they just are the meta, but you’re ignoring things like the epitaph and kuva nukor which are still popular as primers. For melee very few use the incarnon melee for anything but a stat stick. Hell people promote the praedos just because it makes you faster and say nothing about it having stats good enough to make even with Kronen Prime. The glaives, Exodia contagion, and few other non incarnons are what I usually see when people want to use a melee for damage.
@@mariosmatzoros3553 you got several, cedo, the other versions of the hek. Fulmin, ignis, The list can continue. Also i mentioned new players. So steel path isnt open for them to even touch incarnon weapons.
@@SiverFangBlackWing thats my point, yes they are objectively better. I just dont agree with only making them the focus for newer players when so many great guns are available.
@@jfern0927 They still can get the phenmor, praedos, innodem, felarx and laetum. Also, there's no point in getting the other versions of the hek now that scatter justice works on the kuva hek.
Kuva Brakk is my go-to secondary. Coupled with the Synth mods that reload your weapon when it's holstered, its a blast to swap to it in the middle of a melee combo to demolish Overguarded units on demand.
I feel like 90+% of the people who say the kuva quartakk is bad haven't actually used it. That thing shreds.
DAMN Leyzar you did it - thank you that you actually took my whish from some videos ago and did a video like that :) THANKS A LOT
my pleasure
The Kuva stubbas are my children. I love them so much!
twin stubbas = double the fun
Shieldeg is underrated and Ogris + Nightwatch Napalm is the only way to enjoy Citrine crystal lightshow don't @ me
@ you anyway... I enable the Citrine light show with my Cedo alt-fire. Bouncing explosive glaives that force status effects on top of their actual base status chance.
My case for the Ayanga is that EDA made heavy weapons a somewhat reliable thing you can use to clear the whole thing when you don't like your weapon options for the week. If you have the best mods for archguns, the thing absolutely melts the murmur.
I'm sorry my friend you must have been thinking of another weapon when you didn't put the MIGHTY kuva SEER at the top
You're late.
@LeyzarGamingViews sorry sir
I have +2700h in Warframe and never understood that reference
@oppressorb7196 it's captain vors pistol
I would love to see some kuva weapon specific mods or arcanes you could get from the whole lich hunting process that would buff these weapons again. Or maybe by default all kuva weapons had an innate damage to faction multiplier? Idk, maybe thats too much power creep. I dont think these weapons need to be top tier but it would be nice if they had a niche.
I also think it would be fantastic to get more kuva and tenet weapons to our collection. Old standbys like the atterax for example. Twin kohmak, jat kittag, or hey kuva ignis anyone?
I wonder if any of these kuva weapons will get incarnons or if those are specifically tenno/prime weapons only.
I still love Tonkor, and the Kohm, they are the only Kuva weapons i still use quite often.
Tonkor is still great
Only thing i would change is i'd swap the tonkor for the Bramma. Reason being the tonkor has way less ammo issues, i mean i ve been using it A LOT recently and it gets the job done and as far as i can tell 0 issues with ammo, while the bramma still gives me issues with ammo once in a while and for me any weapon with ammo issues is basicly a dead weapon. For an even easier time, play with mirage eclipse and clones and get urself an even bigger explosion with a lot more dmg that can go to lvl cap. Atm these weapons feel like they are worlds apart in my opinion.
Great Vid Leyzar!!
To be honest, beyond the meme, i'd love to see what a kuva stug would look like. It wouldn't be completely stupid, like, the seer and the kraken were meme weapons too. Making a surprinsingly functionnal stug (not even a beast of a weapon) would be kinda cool IMO
I'd be very curious to see an actually functional stug
My lovely Chakk is Leyzar's only Kuva S-tier? Awesomeness💪
Yes 😁
Kuva Chakkhurr is fantastic. Love mine with a riven.
Chakkhurr was my go to until incarnons but still rock the nukor since the way i built it was status and damage and works beautifully as a secondary for me
Dubba Stubbas are the upgraded Twin Grakatas that we all wanted. If you can give the chak a pass because circuit reload, you can do the same for them and have a complete monster on your hands.
Nukor and Brakk are probably my most used Kuva Weapons, and Chakkur my most powerful,
but Hind+Kraken is how I have the most fun :3
(*Haven't gotten the Sobek yet, and all my Kuva Weapons have rivens)
I know I'm a little late to this video, but with the new Cold rework, the Kuva Dragoon(Cold) is actually good for CC. If you point blank an enemy, it insta freezes. The ricochet shrapnel builds procs with every hit and freezes enemies quickly.
I’m still waiting for Kuva Ack and Brunt.
i doubt it because it has an incarnon adapter
@@iamboringvideos6832they could always make it so that the incarnon doesn't work.
A Wraith variant would be just as cool imo.
Kohm is awesome it just melts everything on sp
Ever since the ammo nerf on AOE weapons, the KuvaTonk has been one of my constant go-to weapons for the great majority of content. Not only can it still deal pretty decent amounts of damage over a wide area, the ammo on it is still decent enough that you won't have to worry about ever running out, especially if you pair it with a decent secondary as well (in my case I stick with either the secondary Gaze kitgun, or the Cyanex).
I got a Kuva Karak with 86.9% heat, 82.2% status chance and 129.5% cd w/ -92.1% puncture riven (negative impact pls game). 53% built in heat, planning to change it to magnetic or toxin for Corpus. Best little generic kuva assault rifle there is :).
I can't wait for either a Kuva Stug or a Stug incarnon that just shreds everything and becomes a top 5 secondary. Maybe one day.
Good video. One thing though, when you're testing your weapons in the simulacrum, you should invest time into getting the Kosma Officers, they are tougher than the Heavy Corrupted Gunners. More fun to test weapons against something that actually can withstand damage
Can you check the Cortege? Its fantastic on deep archimedea when the entire loadout is bad.
Bramma and Zarr are still op, i just can't wrap my head around how people can be pissed and drop these weapons in the bin just because of ammo nerf?
Not enough ammo to sustain me till level cap. Despite me using it in shotgun mode.
imo kuva bramma and ku a zarr fell off when akarius prime and kuva ogris exist, since pretty much at least on sp status weapons tends to beat pure crits outside of melee
@@anotherlostcause329and this is the exact mentality that is wrong with a lot of people when talking about gear warframe. I was emphasize that im not saying this applies to you but a lot of people who say things like that will say something along the lines of: "Oh it can't deal with damage/level cap, garbage." When in reality 99.999% percent of people A. Don't even do endurance runs.
B. Insert weapon will kill everything in the game that isn't a ridiculously high level.
C. Doesn't require a gimmicky playstyle for you to use it in quite literally all of the content in the game.
It's incredibly frustrating and is very misleading when people say stuff like that. Outside of sp circuit most players will never see anything even rometly close to approaching even level 1000 enemies.
Thing is, whenever I've used the Kuva Bramma recently in just regular missions, I feel like I'm almost constantly watching my ammo and making sure it doesn't drop to zero. That can get pretty annoying. I don't care about any level cap at all and the ammo nerf still annoys me. It especially gets to you if you have used it for a long time before the ammo nerf came through. It feels good to clear rooms, but sometimes you go too fast and skip some ammo, it starts to get annoying.
It's not even the damage or level cap ability it has, it just feels clunkier and why use it when there's a lot more other options that come with less pain.
@jaymoh_ because big explosion are fun? I think you really are over emphasizing how hard it is to maintain your ammo with it. Your companion, mods, and warframe, hell even consumables just make ammo a non-issue if you build for it. I literally just spam the thing. Of you are doing stuff with lohk buffs or conjunction survival ammo is even less of a concern because of how often unlimited ammo is, especially if it's a relic mission.
worth noting that all are worth grabbing for circuit grinding as they will show up in place of their lower-tier cousins (kuva hek instead of hek, etc) and are in almost every case far superior to the older versions.
Nukor and Kohm are top Tier, nukor still one of the best primers and Kohm can kill everything or work as primer with the right build
I'm not entirely understanding the rankings here. These weapons have unique quirks and most of them excel at it. Kuva Hek is a single target monster. Thing can 1 shot alt fire up to level about 3k. Kuva Hind is also an absolute sleeper monster of a gun with a very good riven Dispo. Kuva tonkor is the king of aoe weapons right now and extremely easy to use. Kuva nukor is the most used weapon for years on end for a reason. it can be whatever you want it to be.
Quartakk slaps more than you gave it credit
It ain’t the best but the semi/ full auto fire and crit , definitely put it up above the kark for sure
Feels bad tho with a clunk
As a person who came back to the game after 3-4 year abscence, this tier list is very useful form me, good to know if any of these weapons are good or not. My favorites are Bramma, Chakkurr and Drakgoon
Tier list of Warframes “Unique” weapons might be cool. Anything nonstandard would work. It would be easier to say what doesn’t go in the list actually, like basic ARs shotguns akimbos and snipers. Minus the incarnons though.
If you blink you miss the melee ranking xD 8:27
Kuva Karak was my first kuva weapon and I love it, galvanized mods and harrow buffs are super fun
Oh, if I have a riven for it would +damage +viral -impact be a good riven roll?
@@FederalMink that’s up to you man, I think it has minus impact + slash and a couple other stats
@@xypherath ahh just haven't gotten my hands on a kuva karak and idk if a viral slash build would be viable or not with it. Cause I do know some weapons are hot garbage with that setup.
@@FederalMink viral slash is solid with it
@@xypherath alright that's good to know
Absolutely love Kuva gattler imo just the feeling of it. But I use it mainly for assur on Uranus due to it having a pretty steady feed of heavy ammo
Tonkor is still S tier, especially with a double crit riven
Dont forget the +reload speed
Keep it secret lol
tonkor energized munitions gang
If Rivens counted, I’d have slapped the Kuva Kraken into A tier (mostly because I have one with viral and +impact)
Dude. Good list. Ogris needs moved up. It is amazing for farming esp vitus Essence. Any weapon that has a clear use should be at least one from the top. Also Cha-carnage is amazing. I love it for Eidolon hunts.
Did you have to rub in the incredibly limited time unobtainable unreal skins?
Just started getting into kuva weapons. Exactly the video I wanted thank you!!!
Would you consider making a tier list for Clan Dojo Research Labs weapons? Would be helpful for newer players like myself. Thank you.
Hm, never thought that would be a thing.
I can see it thou
Personally I don’t like playing “meta” frames and weapons
I just play for fun, one day im using the Ambassador, one day im using the Kuva Karak, the next i could use the Burston Incarnon, really depends on how i feel
In my opinion, most weapons in the game should be evaluated by treating the meta as if incarnon weapons just don't exist. Kuva Hind goes hard, but incarnon weapons render every other weapon invalid because they don't have incarnon genesis. And these days everyone says the bad weapons need an incarnon to be good, which is just asinine because these weapons were almost always good.
Most of these weapons can be considered s-tier, people just don't care about them because they don't have incarnon. It's like comparing high school football players to the comparatively tiny population of olympic athletes on the planet.
I am a big fan of the Karak, but not really for performance. In a game full of laser guns, over the top bullet hoses, and explosive rounds, just a normal rifle feels special. Also the sounds just hit right.
i think you are overvaluing incarnons as a whole. yes. torid exists and is braindead strong but besides that, the ones you have to charge via headshots can be annoying to charge against murmur and infested and while some can be top tier in endurance, for regular playing (just roomclear) the og aoe weapons still are best, with tonkor being the only one to have enough ammo.
Kuva hek is gold now with Scattered Justice😎
“Melee.” Harsh 😂
I always used the kuva chakkhurr not just with harrow prime but Al's limbo prime
(my most successful Warframes expect for nekros prime)
But I'm struggling to find a riven for my kuva chakkhurr what would anyone recommend for a kuva chakkhurr riven
(Side note I've used the kuva quartakk before however I've only been able to receive a "reasonable amount of damage" with Harrow's full power and revenant's enthrall argument while maintain my primary deadhead at max)
I'm a fan of Kuva Hek simply because it's my first kuva weapon otherwise it's the bow for me.
Kuva grattler does have lower damage than some other weapons on the same category, however it has a greater fire rate and a bigger boom radius utilizing rhino roar and gas procs it can easily make it better than ayang, it should be at least okay in the grade.
I would change Kuva Zarr to F tier, Tonkor to S tier, Ogris to same tier as Bramma whether it's A or S, Grattler to B tier and Chakkhurr to A tier, it's edgy niche gun that has use in one niche playstyle and loses big time in most WF content to AOE guns. It also sucks that it kills with delay, sure HM does the same thing, but it's different when you have to precisely aim at enemy to get that effect and just shooting in vague direction of the enemy by looking at the map. I can't stand how it feels to play, definitely not on par with Tonkor.
Kuva Kohm is extremly powerful on crewmates
Thanks for the big middlefinger to all the people that missed the Unreal Tournament skins... My favourite primary is the Stahlta and i would suck weiner for the Shock Rifle skin
I disagree with most of this list but in particular I feel the tonkor is at least ok tier cause of its ammo being very good
Here's me using the Kuva Seer with Combo Fury glaive and five tau shards on Mesa 😮
I snagged a kuva zarr and was hyped cause I had fond memories of mastering the Zarr and clearing hallways or deleting clusters of grineer... then I saw FIVE spare rounds... >.> like... what?! 10 shots total as what you carry in? fuuuuuuu.....
I gave the Kuva Ogris (with Unreal skin) to my Railjack crew member so if I want to speed up a mission, call him down and watch him go to town 😈 lol
Tonkor gang. Still going strong even after nerfs ! !
I never stopped using the bramma it’s good AF. I still remember the day I got primed fulmination from barro and was nuking in SP Ani and a dude was like “You know they’re gonna nerf that right?” 😂
I’ve always been a bow guy (from the starter bow to Paris Prime to the Cernoses to the Bramma). So its existence is literally perfect for me. I’m not some 12hr survival sweatlord so going an hour in SP and bouncing is good enough for me. When people say “The Bramma is bad now.” What they really mean is “It can’t melt level 9999 enemies.” As if most people do or care about that kind of content.
Cant skip any of these if you want to pass mr 30
sobek should be higher, but mostly because of augment, once we can get our hands on it
You’re doing that thing were you post something wrong just to provoke interactions on your content 😂
any chance you do one for tenet weapons
I just 5 min before watching this send my lich with the bramma to railjack nice to know what i am going to hunt next (either nukor or charko dingsbums)
Can lich and sister still be one shot ? Any recommendations?
Yep. Felarx. 🙃
Dear Christ I hope they bring out a Kuva Javlock. Ive wanted a good version for so long, AHHHHHH
THIS
Looking for that dude that always talks about how the MIGHTY SEER is s tier
This tier list is cooked, putting the Ogris below the Bramma? What the heck
I killed my first Kuva Lich, this was so good holy s**t! And of course I got the MIGHTY SEER baby xD
karak is pretty fun to use even if its not all that powerful
luka doncic giving us a tier list on Warframe? Oh wait that’s his twin brother lol
Got the Brakk when I thought I had to take it. Even after like 1500 logins I cant let go of it. Pocket shotgun go brrrt
But other than that your tierlist is spot-on
I need to update my Kuva Chakkhurr because it was falling behind since I came back after a long break.
Where is it, DE? Where is my bloody Kuva Grakata?! GIVE ME MY KUVA DAKA!!!!
Of all these I still use the Ogris cause my main girl is Saryn and it has some wonky interactions with toxic lash and xata's whisper.
Not Shure about the kuva hek. But the hek can use shotgun cannonaid mod to increase damage 240 and fixed fire rate.
With +200% crit and the ability to get 30+ base multi shot most unarmoured units are dead in 10 ft of my blast
The kuva shildeg is on my main melee weapons with a crit chance and crit damage riven
U can skip every kuva weapon these day except chackurr
Can't argue with the list, but I can leave a comment❤
Karan is the Armalite and Hind is the Ak.
kinda one foot onto the incarnon hate train, not because i think they're not powerful (that would be very stupid) but for useability reasons, especially in fast missions.
torid? yep, one body shot is basically all it takes
secondaries? whatever just throw a scourge at them and don't even need to aim (unless they're dedicated secondary outburst swap weapons, looking at you vasto)
melee? ehhhh at least they're generally quite strong and we don't spend combo with tennokai
but generally speaking, primaries? where most of the powerful incarnons are? oof they don't feel good on a like 75% of mission types with a group, and I'm often eyeing up a good kuva/tenet weapon or just one of the stronger standard weapons to do the job, on the kinda missions where incarnons feel bad (imo), the damage really isn't that necessary anyway. and well, i just watched some absolute lunatic kill level cap demo's with a stug so, whatever floats your boat i guess.
I don't think they're bringing back Unreal Tournament. In general. At all. It's just an engine now. RIP.
Could you do a Tenet Tier list as well?
can do
Why isn't Nukor in Subra category? it's litteraly melting high level enemies XD
The outro song is fantastic
Get a quartakk and buy a riven for like 10plat. You wont regret it just look up some build guides
Is kuva seer good?
Respect the tonkor :o
The best heavy weapon comes free with a necramech and is still worse than normal weapons. Heavy weapons have so many limitations their mods should really give far more of a bonus then normal weapon mods do. Even if they had to ad more limitations I want that “moment of power” feel that talked about. People already do these expensive builds to one shot demolists Make heavy weapons that and extend the timer or something. Like you might only have it for a very short time but when you have it it’ll kill that one enemy you want dead. I want a tank buster damn it.