What is the problem with the St Kitts & Nevis Patriots?

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  • With the St Kitts and Nevis Patriots ending last for the fifth time in the last 10 years, Machel enters the studio to ask what is wrong with the Patriots?
    CPL 2024 has not been a vintage tournament and with St Kitts and Antigua stinking the tournament up this year we have known the final four for a long time.
    Is CPL suffering from the law of diminishing returns?
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  • @MrDayna39
    @MrDayna39 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Well, St Kitts has been poor, but the Tallawahs, now the Falcons, might be a close second as poor. T20 cricket is like fast food, no nutritional value, T20 is mostly a party while some devalued cricket is going on.

  • @tyryll8743
    @tyryll8743 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    They have a good squad but the coaching and management is terrible. This looks like a money laundering franchise lol😂

  • @TheXFireball
    @TheXFireball 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Mach actually does quick ones when he talks about downbad Republic Bank Lasco Food Drink Carib CPL (TM)

  • @richarddecaires8506
    @richarddecaires8506 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Mach, valid point. However, I think the need to scrap CPL and go back to the original format. Caribbean Championship and let players represent their own island. If it bouls down to only 4 or 5 islands for now, so be it. We do not need the foreign players. I read comments by GAW fan on fb boasting about their team because they won in 2023. But guess what, it's the foreigners who help them win. None of their home-grown players shone.

    • @user-km4lo8zz6z
      @user-km4lo8zz6z 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Is that really even as financially viable as cpl? Especially in this world flooded with franchise leagues? Whether we like it or not the overseas player bring the foreign eyes.

    • @vikashb4036
      @vikashb4036 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Sound like a real uncle..you got to move with times my friend..like it or not🤷‍♂️

    • @Matrixleaver-oi8qc
      @Matrixleaver-oi8qc 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      What a load of rubbish! Get your facts straight before commenting, because it only highlights your ignorance!
      If you're genuinely trying to give constructive criticism/bash the tournament or undermine a franchise based on performances by local players, the Amazon Warriors should be the last team on your list. Infact, the main reason why they've been the most consistent team in the tournament, in terms of making 6 finals, was largely due to the strength of the performances by the local players, in conjunction with the foreign recruits. Case in point, last year's edition of the CPL saw Motie, Shepherd along with Tahir being amongst the top 10 wicket takers, while Ayub, Hettie, Hope amongst the top 10 run getters.
      Trace all the stats back going back to the inception of tournament and prove me wrong.

  • @HalHaynes-hy2so
    @HalHaynes-hy2so 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Bro we need to investigate this tournament I like what you are talking

  • @antgambino7021
    @antgambino7021 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    St kitts have one of the best teams. Lewis , Mayers, fletcher are some of the best t20 players in the region , then the have nortje , hassaranga who are both world class , they just suffer from bad management, captaincy and lack of identity . No real fan base since it’s just an assortment of random mon.

    • @100Kittigyal
      @100Kittigyal 21 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      The Kittitians are the fan base dont get it twisted. Don't worry our time will come again.

  • @HENRYINC
    @HENRYINC 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The problem is, the team is lacking leaderahip. They constructed a team with no actual consideratuon for who will be captain. No disrespect to Fletcher, he's a good player but not captain material.

  • @nyah19661
    @nyah19661 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    They the clippers of the nba

  • @Roger0916
    @Roger0916 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Rich people don't necessarily care about the results, their interest is in owning the franchise /team.

  • @sanjayisdecent9344
    @sanjayisdecent9344 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    it was so over when they traded odean smith, bunch of flop players and no real pace bowlers except nortje

  • @nonaj
    @nonaj 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tell them Mach!

  • @marlongreenidge1908
    @marlongreenidge1908 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    In all sports some teams would be good and some would be bad

  • @anthonyevans8934
    @anthonyevans8934 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Why did Rutherford leave?

    • @CaribbeanCricketPodcast
      @CaribbeanCricketPodcast  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Disciplinary is what I was told

    • @nonaj
      @nonaj 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      He probably told them how bad management is and they didn’t like the truth

    • @IanJames_4
      @IanJames_4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      The official report was "personal reasons". What the real reason is, who knows.

  • @RaymondButler-h4x
    @RaymondButler-h4x 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Brilliant analysis. I challenged you with the first vid when you spoke about the identity of St Kitts. I was wrong in my understanding in what you said. I thought you were speaking of the small support base. I said they will support the team when its winning and drop the team when they are losing like WI.
    But I have a question what is the identity of GAW or TKR. I don't know if I understand identity.. I could see a valid concern. 5 times last.
    Now they have won 1 so its not like they don't know how to improve. The team on paper looks ok this year except for Odean Smith and Dominic Drakes.
    Lewis Fletcher Mayers Rutherford louis Hasaranga
    Are all capable batters. The bowling collectively is trash. Except for Nortje Hassaranga and Nedd.

    • @Panda_Steph
      @Panda_Steph 24 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      indentity is about giving fans recognisable people to support who they can connect with. In TKR and GAW sense, that means having a lot of local players. For teams like SLK, it means retaining the same foreign players year after year like Faf and Wiese. Teams like Bados and St Kitts throw out players and buy new ones en masse every year so fans never have a clear idea of who is in the side- thus identity problem.

    • @RaymondButler-h4x
      @RaymondButler-h4x นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@Panda_Steph thats the confusion. GAW and TKR have local players they can identify with. SLK doesn't so they identify with foreign players? Confusing.
      Is it the brand of cricket?

  • @theRaKu
    @theRaKu 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im going to my first cpl game tmr for this season
    Wish me luck🙏

  • @dre6485
    @dre6485 52 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Darkes and smith have been poor. Myers and Lewis have not been consistent with the bat. Then there’s the issue with Rutherford. There u go

  • @nonaj
    @nonaj 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is some conchs running the team

  • @RaymondButler-h4x
    @RaymondButler-h4x ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I said along time ago it has to have more teams to give more young players a chance. Probably 8 teams in 2 groups of 4.

  • @IanJames_4
    @IanJames_4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The pitches in Guyana have been terrible for balanced, competitive watchable cricket matches. And this is coming from a Guyanese. The Patriots have too much talent to be this horrible. And don't getbme started on the convoluted strategy that the Warriors have in terms of their top order. Every match is a different opening combination.

  • @marlongreenidge1908
    @marlongreenidge1908 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What do you think about emerging players competing in the CPL

  • @samuelkane7113
    @samuelkane7113 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    CPL matches are fixed anybody with a brain can see that.

    • @nanisantana2155
      @nanisantana2155 57 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Is this Badre??? Loll

  • @VincentNaughton-q6k
    @VincentNaughton-q6k 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Good day Sir: where do you plan to get players we’ve never seen’ we love our cricket. . . What are your solution,s ! ! ! !

  • @doltonsamuel2278
    @doltonsamuel2278 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Mach, I think you are a little bit unfair with Antigua it's their first tournament and the first two matches they lost in the last over and the last ball and don't forget they beat TKR twice.

    • @CaribbeanCricketPodcast
      @CaribbeanCricketPodcast  6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Antigua are Jamaica Tallawahs in all but name

    • @doltonsamuel2278
      @doltonsamuel2278 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@CaribbeanCricketPodcast Jamaica never own the franchise it is own by Guyanese so stop calling it a Jamaican team.

    • @CaribbeanCricketPodcast
      @CaribbeanCricketPodcast  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @doltonsamuel2278 now look at who played for tallawahs last season

  • @AlstonBenjamin
    @AlstonBenjamin 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Without a genuine draft for players to add to and replace players then there is no hope. Without a supporting league of some sort for up-and-coming U25 local players it has no hope. The Draft system is bust as it allows too many average players in and recycles too many of them. The Draft should only be for emerging young players from the U25 league and a separate one for players ranked in the ICC top 150 in T20 whether they are local or not and all should have to sign minimum three-year contracts. Any other player should be a walk on, and teams should be limited in how many of them they can sign.
    The first few years to an extent that is what occurred so even though I hated seeing Narine, Pollard and Bravo play for other countries it made sense for the best players to be drafted like that. At present who is the local World beater for the patriots It should have been Rutherford since Lewis and Mayers have had their struggles and though showing some level of resurgence they are no longer at that level.

  • @osborneflanders7699
    @osborneflanders7699 22 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    You talking that crap but if you look clearly these guys are who you want to be playing for west indies . Lewis , Mayers , Fletcher n a few others. The last time I check the 6 men with the most runs 5 was from the Patriots so tell me even though the rest is winning they too is not doing well. And all of west indies players are failing I mean those that play for west indies. IPL was not good this year as well.

    • @CaribbeanCricketPodcast
      @CaribbeanCricketPodcast  9 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@osborneflanders7699 they have played more games than anyone else

  • @betchinesukhu
    @betchinesukhu 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    T20 is best cricket

  • @nanisantana2155
    @nanisantana2155 58 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Love the Pod!! Congrats in advance on 10k
    But you guys are being lazy!
    You can’t openly say a tournament is bad! And in the same breath say you’re only watching highlights .. Opinion comes off as lazy with no depth!
    CPL has been good this year!
    Started Very good now it’s At a watchable balance…
    Your assumption on the Guyana 🇬🇾 wicket is accurate, very hard to bat on.. which doesn’t help the t20 run scoring brand!

    • @Panda_Steph
      @Panda_Steph 30 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      it's been a week since any team has scored over 160

  • @paulacottom1456
    @paulacottom1456 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Another thing too at one point when the CPL no started Saint Lucia wasn't in the position that sink kids were in check that stats and do a video on that Saint Lucia news to play terrible Jessica Simpson kids playing and they come back then they they change it up Chennai Super Kings buy them know their owners and they completely change of the game now they're playing totally different so sing kids could watch her dad and get it give some hope

  • @paulacottom1456
    @paulacottom1456 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I don't disagree with some of what you would say at 18 tournament would do well but let me ask you something f o t. 18 if you have four teams is not doing well what do you do then if you are four teams out that eight teams is done bad like Saint Kitts and Antigua what do you do then and it's nobody fault that sing kids is not performing look at the players look at the leadership one time is Fletcher one time is lowest one time is the Ford look at the coaches maybe they need to switch it up a little bit and how much players think it's has other than make a Louie how much players do they have naturally have to have an identity these are the questions you need to be talking about and if four of the teams are playing better than think it's in Antigua they deserve to be in that four top spot FC kids and Antigua was in the four top spot what would you say then would you say Gianna is being done bad would you say Trinidad explain down bad would you ask the same questions they call your asking for kids sing kids in 2021 Gail and Bravo made that possible for them to lead in that wind and everybody keep going back to that year they have been better players coming in in and out of sing kids movies the coach need to change maybe they just need different leadership maybe they need overseas please coming in coaches I mean giving them a different perspective at least antique is doing far better than sink is they have one what two games three games on every tournament is done by that's why it named T20 that's why we love it tournaments cannot be good all the time but CPL we love it it's our own we need to do something about it to correct it and if players and local players especially is not performing how they supposed to perform that is not our fault they need to go check their self that's what I have to say about that but for the tournament going on you got to watch and see what's going to happen with the top four because Antigua could win tonight and change everything unpredictable T20 is

    • @Panda_Steph
      @Panda_Steph 32 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      this has to be a troll