Warms my heart to see images from people I work with... 01:31 is on the magnetic field in 3C84 (I'm the 4th author).... 02:27 is a simulation from my friends in Frankfurt... Thanks Anton!!!
Imagine an early intelligent civilization seeing this stupendous glowing massively energetic phenomenon pointed right at them and documenting it getting larger in size for thousands of years.
I bet they know it's coming from about the boom. Like in March 2020 when the magnatar happened. the tmobile network dropped in June also for some reason there was a rouge double rocket crash on the moon. march 4th that year
If the jet is traveling at near light speed, you might only have a half second to a few minutes to realize that the end is nigh. (This is dependent on a bunch of factors, speed of the jet, distance from the origin, etc. so you might have more time than you want to realize that you are doomed.)
This is where I wish the ships from Star Trek were true so we could study this kind of thing. 23 million light years across is just...omg wow. I want to be able to see and study it.
There is a way we can do it without warp drives. Consider as we pick up speed time dilation means inside the ship time moves slower than outside. This means you can “zip” over to it, take measurements along the length, and return to publish a paper and give talks. Of course the planet you left won’t be the same. You might be talking to highly evolved aircraft bots, apes with rifles on horseback, octopi with spears, or something unimaginable.
Anton! Thank you for all your hard work! Watching updates on space and other scientific discoveries is always a better time spent, then watching the updates on recent news)
Every time I think about the scale of cosmic voids I get a really uncomfortable feeling in my tummy. It's like the fear of getting lost in the ocean scaled up to the whole universe.
Twenty-three million light years is inconceivably large for one structure. Our furthest missions have been traveling over forty years. They are only a few light minutes away. Thanks, Anton.
The black holes - are making Electrical effects in dark, and active mode plasma- if this beam is + and - then it matches a plasmoid perfectly. Also don't ignore the recent redshift issues.
Its amazing to me that we can now see galaxies that are so very far away. I can't wait to see what the next 20 years will bring. Thanks for sharing these discoveries Anton :)
What I find interesting is how these jets appear to be creating a "bow wake" with turbulent flows around the sides... like it's moving through fluid instead of a void in space.
I had a dream about this in which all of the stars started connecting in a similar manner where they started shooting beams of light 2 one another and all of the Sky. The galaxy and universe was visible
These jet structures are another glimpse into the insane energies involved with rapidly rotating super massive black holes. Trying to grasp the scales involved is something I wonder about.
this is what we want to do and we can learn from nature, we want to use particles to accelerate spaceships instead of pushing them with light but matter scatters unless in a magnetic pinch, this is that pinch.
Thank you Anton. If it's the space between galaxies that expands and creates the red shift..., this jet is 230 times Milky Way. Should we assume that it's expanded in addition to the jet's furthest reach?
When you see anomalies like this I do wonder if the Kardashev "Type 3 civilisation" idea is possible and this is a way to power their civilisation or even a weapon. It would be amazing (and very scary) if many of the unexplained cosmological events we see were down to a species (or many species) changing their galax(ies) in the same way we change rivers and lakes with dams and engineering. Meanwhile back in the real world...
When you mentioned Mr. Oei and my brain immediately went 'Hey, he and his team found Alcyoneus!'. This made me realize that I'm a legit space nerd now. Hello fellow friends.
When I recieved the notification about this video, I thought at first "I never heard of the Galactic airlines, but what the nonesence about that kind of a range improvement? Did Anton hit his head recently? Or maybe it's about futurology and predictions?" And 15 seconds looking at that notification I was just in stupor wasn't able to make any sense of what I'm reading, when suddenly "Oooooh, thooose jets! And Galactic is just the Galactic..."
If it makes you feel any better I was on the phone with my sister this morning and half way through my first coffee and feeling my pocket and wondering where I left my phone :)
@@axle.student yeah, I know the feeling when such things happen =) Once I had a sum of money in one hand and a wrapper of a candy I just ate in other, then I threw it in a garbage can and then looked and turned upside down the whole apartment looking for money, untill by some miracle I decided to check a "crazy", as I thought to myself, idea and checked the can... =)
@@Pootie_Tang That's out there. I think I can almost match it. I have a rather expensive pair of glasses for close up reading that I am very protective of and never leave my home office room draw. I usually keep a cheapo pair for when I am out and about, except I lost them (which is why I don't take my good pair out). Then I lost my good pair just after. I cried, I went to every businesses that I had been to in case I had taken the expensive pair, I upside downed every draw in the room and progressed through the rest of the house 3 times and then declared I had lost them and I would be blind for the foreseeable future. > About a week later I had to go to a birthday and slipped on a new pair of shoes that I had got 2 weeks earlier, and hidden inside was my glasses case and glasses. Say what now! Because I had lost my cheapo pair I took my good pair when buying my new shoes and some other stuff. Being so over protective of my glasses and having 2 hands full of stuff my brain must have decided that the soft new shoes was the safest place to carry them without dropping them. I came home and put the shoes away and forgot lol > Any time anyone looses there glasses in my family the first thing we ask is "Have you checked inside your shoes" lol
Theres a straight line in the cosmos longer than 1 light year long?!?!?!…how is anything …billion light years!… where are we even ?! this place is huge !!! I think to try and verbalize the magnitude of the universe is probably a mistake to use any words we currently know. Mind blown 🤯
7:12 to be able to be seen for 23 million lightyears (11.5 lightyears each jet) would mean there’s enough material (mass) to hole itself together over that distance without dissipating as well as the magnetic fields , which means the cosmic web was just feeding it constantly ( it was in the perfect spot for it )
The universe is a brain that is beyond our ability to even begin to understand, I realize that compared to the scale of the universe I am not even an atom on a molecule of dust
There were still voids in the early universe. They didn't get denser ... Some of the brightest things we see are on the edge of voids. If they were not the radiation would get lost in all the brightness
Amazing that such discoveries are possible with modern equipment and even more amazing that there will be definitely many more of them in my lifetime! Still, I would love to live in the era of stellar exploration, where FTL interstellar travel is already a thing and one can visit distant star systems and thread planets unknown under alien skies...
What if two identical holes circle each other fast enough creating almost a ring, both spinning the same way. Where the accretion discs smash into each other in the middle, would the matter be forced out in jets ? Loving your work Anton.
Exposing the common man to Higher Science and Critical thought and I thank you for it. Talking for my self. tyvm, take care @whatdamath (Anton Petrov).
It is possible that jets from active galactic nuclei (AGN) could be made of plasma dense enough to sustain a magnetic field that helps channel and extend them over millions of light-years. These jets are typically composed of relativistic plasma (charged particles moving at nearly the speed of light), and the dynamics are heavily influenced by magnetic fields. In such a scenario, the magnetic field plays a crucial role in collimating and stabilizing the jet, preventing it from dispersing as it travels vast distances through the intergalactic medium. This can happen through the following mechanisms: Magnetic Confinement (Poloidal and Toroidal Fields): The plasma within the jet can generate both poloidal (along the axis of the jet) and toroidal (around the axis) magnetic fields. The interplay between these fields can create a self-collimating structure, where the magnetic field lines keep the plasma together and directed along a narrow path. This allows the jet to travel far without dispersing. Relativistic Effects: The jets are often moving at relativistic speeds, which also affects the dynamics. Relativistic beaming helps maintain the integrity of the jet by concentrating energy in a forward direction, along the axis of the jet. Magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) Stability: Plasma jets are governed by MHD equations, and under the right conditions, these jets can maintain stability over large distances due to the balance between the plasma's pressure and the magnetic forces. Instabilities such as kink or Kelvin-Helmholtz instabilities can arise, but strong magnetic fields can suppress or mitigate these effects. Intergalactic Medium (IGM) Interaction: The density and structure of the intergalactic medium play a role in how far the jet can propagate. If the IGM is relatively low in density, the jet can extend for millions of light-years, while denser regions may cause dissipation or the formation of hotspots where energy is released. Therefore, a combination of magnetic confinement, relativistic effects, and favorable conditions in the surrounding medium could allow a plasma jet from an AGN to sustain its structure over millions of light-years, so I would suggest the mechanism for jets of this length is likely understood.
I have a “theory”. What follows is that theory.... The same rules apply at all scales... what science is trying to measure in quantum mechanics isn’t actually part of our universe.... they’re trying to measure massive structures in smaller universes, thinking they’re seeing subatomic particles, when in fact our universe, and the time and space which fill it, end at the outermost boundary of the atom. The atom is our universe, that which makes up the atom is not our universe, nor the time and space within it.... once you cross the line between atomic and subatomic, you’re talking about another universe entirely....
I understand space is mostly empty, but imagine getting caught in these streams; or imagine one of these heading your way and you've no way of evacuating your planet. Would we even know if such a stream was pointed at our solar system?
laniakea quasar collapse proto type locations, other ones like these(that weren't so isolated) added up to a The Great Attractor like region of gravitational attraction.
Seems to me these jets would be involved in laying the groundwork for what becomes the 'strands' of the intergalactic web. It might also help explain why large galaxy are at the connection points of the web.
Oh dear, humans set official limits to the lengths of jets and the universe has a mind of its own. :P ... I love these kinds of researches as it shows what is out there instead of what we imagine could be out there and that's the best data to learn from.
Hi anton,it opus known how they exist and are not unusual,notice the giveaway it's not stopped or controlled by gravity,its because their electrical discharges 39 times to the power of ten ,stronger than gravity.
Warms my heart to see images from people I work with... 01:31 is on the magnetic field in 3C84 (I'm the 4th author).... 02:27 is a simulation from my friends in Frankfurt... Thanks Anton!!!
😄You must be sooo proud, Congratulations to you and your friends....how exciting!!
Thank you for your research!
Dark and Darker servers also are from Frankfurt, thanks Frankfurt
That one at 02:27 is a fantastic illustration, hoping to see it crop up again
Great work 👏
Whoa, 23 million light years, insane. I so appreciate your channel.
"Dammit, Klargh, did you leave the reactor door open again? The neighbors are complaining..."
Imagine an early intelligent civilization seeing this stupendous glowing massively energetic phenomenon pointed right at them and documenting it getting larger in size for thousands of years.
I bet they know it's coming from about the boom. Like in March 2020 when the magnatar happened. the tmobile network dropped in June also for some reason there was a rouge double rocket crash on the moon. march 4th that year
I had a similar thought
If the jet is traveling at near light speed, you might only have a half second to a few minutes to realize that the end is nigh. (This is dependent on a bunch of factors, speed of the jet, distance from the origin, etc. so you might have more time than you want to realize that you are doomed.)
Hey wait a minute
It would be interesting to see some sort of calculation for what sort of shielding would be required
Thank you for taking the time to inform us about everything in space.
This is where I wish the ships from Star Trek were true so we could study this kind of thing. 23 million light years across is just...omg wow. I want to be able to see and study it.
Crazy thought- even their warp drive took decades to cross the galaxy, so even the Enterprise couldn’t get from one end to the other in a lifetime
Incredible power. Imagine a rougue planet getting in the way.
The unfathomable size of things. 🤯
There is a way we can do it without warp drives. Consider as we pick up speed time dilation means inside the ship time moves slower than outside. This means you can “zip” over to it, take measurements along the length, and return to publish a paper and give talks. Of course the planet you left won’t be the same. You might be talking to highly evolved aircraft bots, apes with rifles on horseback, octopi with spears, or something unimaginable.
Trek ships, way too slow. Iain M Banks (The Culture) ships, maybe, but only with you in suspension.
Anton! Thank you for all your hard work! Watching updates on space and other scientific discoveries is always a better time spent, then watching the updates on recent news)
“Hello wonderful Anton, this is person” 👋 (Not my quote, but was one of the first comments I read when I was introduced to this channel) 🌌
I often say, "Hello Anton. This is Anton."
Might have been me. Then again, maybe not.
:D
Hahah! You beat me too it this time! Out of tradition though; “hello wonderful Anton, this is person”
Neat subject material. And you let your own sense of wonder creep in, which is awesome. Keep up the wonderfulness, Anton!
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. ✌️🙂
Every time I think about the scale of cosmic voids I get a really uncomfortable feeling in my tummy. It's like the fear of getting lost in the ocean scaled up to the whole universe.
God I hope your channel never comes to an end. You cover exactly the things im interested in. Keep it up.
Twenty-three million light years is inconceivably large for one structure. Our furthest missions have been traveling over forty years. They are only a few light minutes away. Thanks, Anton.
Anton has "one like per second" speed! 🌠
Anton delivers. Learn something every time.
Cool find anton!
Hello wonderful jets
B-b-b-Benny and the JETS!!
Benny!! Benny!!
thank you, Anton
This video is so intriguing Anton! Thanks for bringing us so many mysteries of the cosmos! You are a wonderful person! 🌟 🎉❤
The black holes - are making Electrical effects in dark, and active mode plasma- if this beam is + and - then it matches a plasmoid perfectly. Also don't ignore the recent redshift issues.
Its amazing to me that we can now see galaxies that are so very far away. I can't wait to see what the next 20 years will bring. Thanks for sharing these discoveries Anton :)
05:14 Even the universe was a little denser, but also a little thicker, when it was young. I can relate.
Appreciate ya. Thanks for sharing.
What I find interesting is how these jets appear to be creating a "bow wake" with turbulent flows around the sides... like it's moving through fluid instead of a void in space.
The void is never truly empty, so there's always a bow shock to some degree.
@@stargazer5784 I wonder what that density does to light? ;)
Thanks dude; God bless.
A spinning black hole spins SpaceTime with it. This must contribute to the power of the chaotic magnetic fields that create the jet.
Not a good neighborhood to be near but what a wonder !
I had a dream about this in which all of the stars started connecting in a similar manner where they started shooting beams of light 2 one another and all of the Sky.
The galaxy and universe was visible
Nice :)
It was Rodney McKay messing with Ancient tech again.
Or as dr Becket would say. RUD NAY!
I've been ignoring all the other websites and videos, waiting for yours
That we, tiny novelties of nature, can make such incredible creations manifest just boggles my tiny mind
Those jets are basically giant laser cannons, but way bigger.
These jet structures are another glimpse into the insane energies involved with rapidly rotating super massive black holes. Trying to grasp the scales involved is something I wonder about.
Finally Aliens? Aliens, right?
The radio image is labeled as 15×15 arc minutes. The Moon is 30 arc minutes.
"How does your modern science explain zat? Can you explain zat?"
"I can't explain zat"
"No one can explain zat!"
this is what we want to do and we can learn from nature, we want to use particles to accelerate spaceships instead of pushing them with light but matter scatters unless in a magnetic pinch, this is that pinch.
Thank you Anton. If it's the space between galaxies that expands and creates the red shift..., this jet is 230 times Milky Way. Should we assume that it's expanded in addition to the jet's furthest reach?
Comically large blowtorch
_Cosmically_ large blowtorch.
(winks)
Wow, magnetically magnetized magnetism; all completely described without the e word.
Followed up with a lot of gas; not even bothering with "hot gas."
Let me guess, paradox theory suggests it's a alien elevator towards a different simulated universe 🤷🤷
I love watching your videos before sleep. Thanks for sharing the wonders and mysteries of the Universe with us!
When you see anomalies like this I do wonder if the Kardashev "Type 3 civilisation" idea is possible and this is a way to power their civilisation or even a weapon. It would be amazing (and very scary) if many of the unexplained cosmological events we see were down to a species (or many species) changing their galax(ies) in the same way we change rivers and lakes with dams and engineering.
Meanwhile back in the real world...
When you mentioned Mr. Oei and my brain immediately went 'Hey, he and his team found Alcyoneus!'. This made me realize that I'm a legit space nerd now. Hello fellow friends.
When I recieved the notification about this video, I thought at first "I never heard of the Galactic airlines, but what the nonesence about that kind of a range improvement? Did Anton hit his head recently? Or maybe it's about futurology and predictions?"
And 15 seconds looking at that notification I was just in stupor wasn't able to make any sense of what I'm reading, when suddenly "Oooooh, thooose jets! And Galactic is just the Galactic..."
Business or coach? 😉
@@stargazer5784 😅
If it makes you feel any better I was on the phone with my sister this morning and half way through my first coffee and feeling my pocket and wondering where I left my phone :)
@@axle.student yeah, I know the feeling when such things happen =) Once I had a sum of money in one hand and a wrapper of a candy I just ate in other, then I threw it in a garbage can and then looked and turned upside down the whole apartment looking for money, untill by some miracle I decided to check a "crazy", as I thought to myself, idea and checked the can... =)
@@Pootie_Tang That's out there. I think I can almost match it.
I have a rather expensive pair of glasses for close up reading that I am very protective of and never leave my home office room draw.
I usually keep a cheapo pair for when I am out and about, except I lost them (which is why I don't take my good pair out).
Then I lost my good pair just after. I cried, I went to every businesses that I had been to in case I had taken the expensive pair, I upside downed every draw in the room and progressed through the rest of the house 3 times and then declared I had lost them and I would be blind for the foreseeable future.
>
About a week later I had to go to a birthday and slipped on a new pair of shoes that I had got 2 weeks earlier, and hidden inside was my glasses case and glasses. Say what now!
Because I had lost my cheapo pair I took my good pair when buying my new shoes and some other stuff. Being so over protective of my glasses and having 2 hands full of stuff my brain must have decided that the soft new shoes was the safest place to carry them without dropping them. I came home and put the shoes away and forgot lol
>
Any time anyone looses there glasses in my family the first thing we ask is "Have you checked inside your shoes" lol
If our own galaxy was located within a void, what would the universe look like in our night sky? That's always been my favorite thing to imagine.
Oh my goodness what a star wars weapon if I ever saw one WOW what energy is pouring out of that thing mind-blowing
Always a great show.
Theres a straight line in the cosmos longer than 1 light year long?!?!?!…how is anything …billion light years!… where are we even ?! this place is huge !!! I think to try and verbalize the magnitude of the universe is probably a mistake to use any words we currently know. Mind blown 🤯
7:12 to be able to be seen for 23 million lightyears (11.5 lightyears each jet) would mean there’s enough material (mass) to hole itself together over that distance without dissipating as well as the magnetic fields , which means the cosmic web was just feeding it constantly ( it was in the perfect spot for it )
Somone left the deathstar on?
Hahaha!
The Emperor's gonna be pissed.
That's mind bottling!!! How I wish we could mine these Jets for materials. Cool shit Anton.
Very interesting information, thanks Anton👍❤
On what other channel can we learn of wonderful dramatic incredible things like this.
To quote Colonel Jack O'Neill "Magnets". That's the answer to the jets.
The universe is a brain that is beyond our ability to even begin to understand, I realize that compared to the scale of the universe I am not even an atom on a molecule of dust
we're not even a quark
So you're saying these fellers are responsible for making the cosmic web, partner? 🤠
thank you!
Absolutely insane forces even on a cosmological scale 😮
Anton, Lookin kinda buff buddy. I think you been workin out. Am uh right?
Fascinating!
But I wonder if it couldn't be a cosmic string...
There were still voids in the early universe. They didn't get denser ... Some of the brightest things we see are on the edge of voids. If they were not the radiation would get lost in all the brightness
Is it me or Anton looks like he’s been working out?
I'm about to explain it with 4 words, shits old, shits big. I have no scientific background so that's as deep as I can go
Amazing that such discoveries are possible with modern equipment and even more amazing that there will be definitely many more of them in my lifetime!
Still, I would love to live in the era of stellar exploration, where FTL interstellar travel is already a thing and one can visit distant star systems and thread planets unknown under alien skies...
coherent laminar flow.
that's the name of my post-hardcore, grindcrush emo-gaze band
Expect the unexpected. How much of our cosmological understanding will change in 1,000 years.
Cheers, Anton ✨️🖖🤠
What if two identical holes circle each other fast enough creating almost a ring, both spinning the same way. Where the accretion discs smash into each other in the middle, would the matter be forced out in jets ? Loving your work Anton.
Impressive. ~ The comments, "Hello wonderful Anton, this is person." LMAO ~ Yes, exactly.
Thank you, Anton.
amazing all the things and places we don't know
What if the puffs in the jet have vortex stability like properties?
Intergalactic highways.....
It is like a tornado in space wow,two tornadoes back to back
black holes got anti-lag tunes now? crazy.
Exposing the common man to Higher Science and Critical thought and I thank you for it. Talking for my self. tyvm, take care @whatdamath (Anton Petrov).
NiCe
So… I think we spotted Starkiller Base destroying Coruscant (or your preferred SW Legend’s superlaser)
Objects and distances seem so bizarre as to not really have a connection with our existence on this little ball of mud we call Earth.
It is possible that jets from active galactic nuclei (AGN) could be made of plasma dense enough to sustain a magnetic field that helps channel and extend them over millions of light-years. These jets are typically composed of relativistic plasma (charged particles moving at nearly the speed of light), and the dynamics are heavily influenced by magnetic fields.
In such a scenario, the magnetic field plays a crucial role in collimating and stabilizing the jet, preventing it from dispersing as it travels vast distances through the intergalactic medium. This can happen through the following mechanisms:
Magnetic Confinement (Poloidal and Toroidal Fields):
The plasma within the jet can generate both poloidal (along the axis of the jet) and toroidal (around the axis) magnetic fields. The interplay between these fields can create a self-collimating structure, where the magnetic field lines keep the plasma together and directed along a narrow path. This allows the jet to travel far without dispersing.
Relativistic Effects:
The jets are often moving at relativistic speeds, which also affects the dynamics. Relativistic beaming helps maintain the integrity of the jet by concentrating energy in a forward direction, along the axis of the jet.
Magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) Stability:
Plasma jets are governed by MHD equations, and under the right conditions, these jets can maintain stability over large distances due to the balance between the plasma's pressure and the magnetic forces. Instabilities such as kink or Kelvin-Helmholtz instabilities can arise, but strong magnetic fields can suppress or mitigate these effects.
Intergalactic Medium (IGM) Interaction:
The density and structure of the intergalactic medium play a role in how far the jet can propagate. If the IGM is relatively low in density, the jet can extend for millions of light-years, while denser regions may cause dissipation or the formation of hotspots where energy is released.
Therefore, a combination of magnetic confinement, relativistic effects, and favorable conditions in the surrounding medium could allow a plasma jet from an AGN to sustain its structure over millions of light-years, so I would suggest the mechanism for jets of this length is likely understood.
It's mostly "favourable conditions" here doing most of the work, chatGPT.
@@hankscorpio42069 No - my words - don't use Chatgpt or any other AI program.
See many plasma cosmology papers that explain this clearly.
The paper is linked in the description.
jeez, youre on top of it, pretty sure the news just came out like 4 days ago or something
Quasars are kind of impressive to put it midly.
I have a “theory”. What follows is that theory....
The same rules apply at all scales... what science is trying to measure in quantum mechanics isn’t actually part of our universe.... they’re trying to measure massive structures in smaller universes, thinking they’re seeing subatomic particles, when in fact our universe, and the time and space which fill it, end at the outermost boundary of the atom. The atom is our universe, that which makes up the atom is not our universe, nor the time and space within it.... once you cross the line between atomic and subatomic, you’re talking about another universe entirely....
I understand space is mostly empty, but imagine getting caught in these streams; or imagine one of these heading your way and you've no way of evacuating your planet. Would we even know if such a stream was pointed at our solar system?
wow 😮
It's clearly Goku's kamehameha, duh! Joking aside, your consistent uploads about interesting topics are greatly appreciated
How do they measure these things?
laniakea quasar collapse proto type locations, other ones like these(that weren't so isolated) added up to a The Great Attractor like region of gravitational attraction.
Quite obviously a galactic attack by one galaxy against another.
Seems to me these jets would be involved in laying the groundwork for what becomes the 'strands' of the intergalactic web. It might also help explain why large galaxy are at the connection points of the web.
Those powerful jets streaming into the void. Could this be seeding the void with matter and planets? Very interesting and intriguing.
That's star killer base. The rebels can't escape forever
I thought "Jet's," have wings! Unless your talking about the New York Jet's football team. Is my mind blown? Probably.
Oh dear, humans set official limits to the lengths of jets and the universe has a mind of its own. :P ... I love these kinds of researches as it shows what is out there instead of what we imagine could be out there and that's the best data to learn from.
Man you could lonch a light speed craft on that
The longevity of the jets might be explained if they exist in a giant void. Right after typing this, Anton said the same, but posting anyway. 😁
Hi anton,it opus known how they exist and are not unusual,notice the giveaway it's not stopped or controlled by gravity,its because their electrical discharges 39 times to the power of ten ,stronger than gravity.
0:11 Ah dang! I wasn't ready...lol
Hello, Anton! 😆
“There are things out there in this universe that we know but nothing”
(David Robinson Crusoe 2021) AKA dr gunsmith.